Ask Dr. Drew - War On Cars: Why A Gas Vehicles Ban Is A Giant Threat To Freedom (And Another Step Closer To Total Surveillance) w/ Mel K & Jay Beeber – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 455
Episode Date: February 16, 2025Want an electric vehicle? Awesome. Want to ban gas cars, force everyone to use EVs, install remote-controlled kill switches, and penalize drivers with extra taxes? Now we have a problem. Mel K is a j...ournalist, filmmaker, and host of The Mel K Show. With an honors degree from NYU, she spent over two decades producing historical dramas in Hollywood before launching her show in March 2020. Her platform has grown to over 500,000 subscribers, featuring in-depth discussions on contemporary global issues. Based in West Palm Beach, Florida, Mel K creates research-driven content exploring complex topics and underreported stories. Find more at https://themelkshow.com and follow her at https://x.com/MelKShow Jay Beeber is the Executive Director of Policy at the National Motorists Association, a membership organization focused on drivers’ rights and transportation policy. He specializes in traffic safety measures, automated enforcement systems, road infrastructure, and vehicle regulations that infringe on personal freedoms. Beeber has testified before state legislatures and city councils on transportation policy matters and contributed to policy changes in multiple jurisdictions. Find more at https://motorists.org and follow updates at https://x.com/motorists 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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two great guests today we'll have jay bieber in a few minutes executive director at the national
motorist association uh focusing on driver's rights and transportation policy believe it or
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where you should be following her. Mel, welcome to the program.
Thank you for having me, sir. Very excited to be here.
So we are such fans amongst other things of West Palm Beach and Southern Florida,
where people are happy and free. We noticed it years ago. We're like, wow, everyone down here
is so happy. Those of us that hearken from California, it is a distinct difference when you go down there.
Yeah, it sure is. I lived in LA for 22 years myself. So it is definitely different down here
and it is very obvious and it's getting better because DeSantis and Trump both down in Florida
kind of brings a lot of excitement here.
Interesting.
So, yeah, we have been frequent visitors to Boca Raton and that Boca Raton Resort.
We love that place.
So enough of Florida talk.
There's so much going on.
I know we're supposed to talk about cars today, but there's so much happening so fast because of the current
administration's sort of shock and awe approach. I'm just wondering if there's anything in your
crosshairs today. I don't know if you saw Pam Bondi just issued, sort of threw down a gauntlet
on a civil action against the governor and the AG. Any thoughts? Yeah, I mean, she's hitting the ground running. These people have
been planning for a very long time. It was almost a year ago that the opposition to them,
the lawfare people, started saying that they were going to go through all of Trump's past
things that he's said and done, what he's done the last four years, and prepare a ton of lawfare.
Norm Eisen's out there saying he already has 100 cases ready to drop. So you know what?
They're doing the same thing. And she was ready to go in there and say that any state that was
not complying with illegal immigration, new laws would be held accountable. And that's what's
happening. I mean, after Trump put in some of the executive orders, they went ahead and ignored him
and still paid $59 million for hotels for illegals there
when they're not helping American citizens at all, really. So, you know, this is the beginning
of a new world in America where law and order is going to try to take back the Constitution
to the front. What are the landmines as they sort of rush out there to sort of change things, you see the opposite. I mean,
it's just such a, everything has sort of shifted so profoundly. One of the things I'm noticing just
today is, oh, the press is taking its old job back of addressing authority, speaking truth to power,
all that which they had done prior to eight years ago
throughout most of the country's history.
Are you seeing that too?
At least that's their ethical sort of, that's the rallying point.
That's the point around which they seem to be rallying right now.
Well, I think they're having very little opportunity to continue down the path of hoaxes and frauds.
This is a lot to do with a lot of the lawfare that has happened. Much of what's gone on from the
beginning all the way back to Crossfire Hurricane in the first term of Trump. A
lot of times these lawyers that work behind the scenes, most people are
familiar with people like Weissman and Eisen and McCord and these people that
go on all the MSNBC and shows always talking about charging Trump or
lawyers or other people with crimes. And then those charges in those cases either get dropped,
turned over on appeal. It's a PR campaign basically using the judiciary. And I think
that at this point, because of what Elon has done, because of Rumble and some other places,
it's just too fast. There's too much
rapid response to push back against fraud like that. And people are seeing it very clearly.
And I think people are also seeing these rogue judges come out and do things that we know is
unconstitutional. It's a violation of the separation of powers. But they are so used to
going out there and filing charges or Letitia James throwing in a grand jury or whatever that's never going to go anywhere in real constitutional terms.
But it's really about manipulating the masses to believe that something is real.
That really then stops the credibility of the people that are trying to do good behind the scenes.
And I think those days are over.
I hope they are.
I don't know if you noticed this latest, I guess this was a Musk tweet.
Judge John Bates, one of the guys interfering with the administration,
the wife of Judge Bates is taking money from USAID. Shocking.
Yeah. Also the judge in New York, his wife also works with a legal immigrant legal fund
that is funded by USAID. You sometimes look at these Washington couples and it's really
amazing to see how many of them are married, somebody who has an office, elected or not,
to somebody either in the media or a lobbyist or an NGO.
It's really incestuous there,
which is why I guess the five richest counties in America
surround Washington, D.C.
But look, people are looking at that now.
In the past, you would never think, who's that person's wife?
Jamie Raskin's going nuts over the Treasury, and Elon looking at the Treasury, well, his
wife works there. So this is what the swamp looks like. And for the first time, I think,
in our lifetimes, we are going to see a lot more than we ever have. And now with Tulsi
Gabbard, we're going to also see the DNI position finally be used as intended, which
has never been since the Patriot Act created it.
Yeah, and Susan, my wife mentioned something as the mics were heating up here,
that somebody was taking issue with Elon Musk lying about the condoms going to Gaza,
when in fact, yesterday, he stood tall and said, you know what, there are $50 million going to Gaza, when in fact, yesterday, he stood tall and said, you know what? There are
$50 million going to Gaza, but we got the Gaza wrong. It's Gaza, Mozambique, not Gaza in the
Middle East. And then he said something that politicians don't even know what to do with.
He said, you know, we're working very fast, very hard, and we will get some things wrong.
Thank you for bringing that to my attention.
We will adjust course.
And that went down as lying.
And it really pisses me off.
I know, I know.
And listen, Donald Trump's going to tomorrow lay out the most egregious situations that the USAID has been funding overseas and here. But we have to remember that there's a long history
of USAID, National Endowment for Democracy,
being on the ground in many countries
before color revolutions, before regime change,
and all of that.
And the American people deserve to know this.
So I think going forward,
we're going to have a lot more information
before the media can twist it around
so that you can hit it right,
like Elon Musk did. He might be wrong, but there's so much fraud. How can he not be?
Even if it's not fraud, it's just, we would like to know what is being done with our money.
It's interesting. I listened to French broadcast and they were like, what? That's the sums of,
they couldn't, the mind boggled at the sums of money that were being sent to these sort
of random processes these random i don't know what to call them these these what do we call
them i don't know what to call the group of them but but they it's really interesting to hear the
pushback is well i mean so sesame street in afghanistan it's only $12 million. Only $12 million. This is a shock to the world when they
hear politicians say things like that. Yeah, you know, I had on Catherine Austin
Fitz, who was a HUD, you know, in the administration of Reagan, and she has been in and out of the
government for a long time. She estimates that there's about $20 trillion missing
since the beginning of the war on terror,
and that when they go in to audit the Department of Defense,
that it will really blow our minds how much is being wasted.
And then again, where is it going?
We have Zelensky last week and Bassett going there this week
to talk to him about it, saying that he only got $70 billion when we sent $200 billion.
So, you know, that's the other thing that we have to take into mind is that a lot of
our money is going into foreign countries and then going outside of foreign countries
and being funneled back into America, be it into lobbying or into our election system.
You know, all of this massive amount of black hole money really is the problem
in this country, even with elections and everything else. The sad part is when there's an election in
other countries that is questioned or contested, a lot of times it comes back to USAID and National
Endowment for Democracy as well. So back to the color revolutions and the USAID's sort of more unsavory sort of influences.
I want to get into the global public-private partnership, the global agenda.
UN, WEF, NGO, World Bank, what's going on here and what is their goal?
And has this been disrupted? I kind of saw things going that way,
but I feel like there's been a little bit of a grenade thrown in the middle of it.
But tell me what you know.
Yeah, there has.
So basically what we've allowed to happen here,
since George H.W. Bush walked on the floor of the United Nations
and announced to the world that there would be a new world order
run by the United Nations, he actually
meant that. And from that point on,
a lot of what's happened to our country,
sending jobs overseas, what's
happened with immigration, all of this
stuff is kind of going towards this global
governance model that is, you know, most
people know the World Economic Forum because they have
Davos, but there's many conferences
where all these same people go.
I basically call it the
parent company running the world. They don't have an allegiance to any religion or any flag or any
people or any country. It's power for power's sake that has been kind of centralized over all
these years. And their real goal is Agenda 2030, which is to have 17 sustainable development goals achieved by 2030. Barack Obama
and Samantha Power signed us on to this global governance model in 2015 without the consent of
the government and certainly without the people of the United States knowing that this was a
long-term plan to end nation states, national sovereignty. Kissinger and Brzezinski, Rockefeller, the crown,
when they started down this path, decided that they would actually have regional control above
nation states so that we wouldn't really see it. So they've been having these conferences for
decades. They only really got the sunlight shined on them during COVID because they were so obviously
involved and coordinating worldwide.
And during Trump's first term, we have to remember, he pulled out of UNESCO,
World Health Organization. He was questioning NATO, Paris Climate Accords. It's these things that they do that circumvent and undermine sovereignty of nations and in America,
the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Now where they're at is that they've gotten to the place of technocracy.
A lot of people think that China is communist.
No, China is a technocracy.
It is communism run by technology that is all-encompassing,
that is completely full spectrum.
And frankly, that was built by a lot of the people that are the stakeholders,
as they call themselves, at the World Economic Forum and UN,
who merged in 2019 to achieve Agenda 2030.
In 2022, Biden and Harris re-upped their commitment to Agenda 2030 and the 17 sustainable goals
to the tune of $3 trillion of taxpayer money going into these NGOs and UN-aligned
organizations all the way up to the IMF, the World Bank, and the Bank of International Settlements.
And so this is the path. But the scary part is the 17 goals all require track and trace surveillance.
And they've already built this infrastructure called the global public infrastructure and the whole goal is to get everyone on the planet to have a digital id a digital wallet
everything that they have on this centralized uh technocrat run track and trace surveillance system
to protect the planet you know and to protect uh nature and all of that when frankly they're
tokenizing and monetizing everything and the next step step would be the only way that this works is if America buys into this global public infrastructure,
global digital ID.
And as far as I can see, Donald Trump is talking about maybe building his own,
but he's made certain moves that have pulled away from doing it with UNESCO
and the World Health Organization and the IPCC.
So it is a split.
But I think we have to also ask, why do these people hate Trump so much?
Well, in 2015, when they all signed on to Agenda 2030, every nation in the world put in amazing amounts of money. But even more than that, the global public-private partnership,
which is the international banks
and the multinational corporations,
basically, with Larry Fink,
basically, being the American face
in the Great Reset.
He's at the top of the World Economic Forum.
It is all about that we,
the people of the United States,
either keep our Constitution,
our Bill of rights,
and our sovereignty, or we don't. And what was happening is we were being pushed through a lot
of executive orders that Biden or whoever was running Biden was putting in. They were building
America to link up to this global public infrastructure. There were biometric data,
ledger technology, all kinds of stuff going into these executive orders that
nobody was reading to kind of rebuild everything Trump was pulling apart. So now Trump's going to
interject and pull it apart again. That's what I see happening. But the end goal is this. And the
truth is, it's about trillions upon trillions of dollars invested in this agenda. And the agenda,
Donald Trump would say, they're not after me, they're after you, and I'm in this agenda. And the agenda, you know, Donald Trump would say they're not after
me, they're after you and I'm in the way. I will say they're not after America, they're after the
world and America, particularly our constitution is in the way. And that's where we stand right
now. But they just had Davos and they're still going down the path of global governance is more
efficient. Efficient is what technocracy is all about, than nation states having their own
laws, their own rules, and their own constitutions. So that is the struggle. Do we remain proud
nation states, or do we become the second of the regional governments? The first that they built,
obviously, is the EU, which was all the same people. Kissinger, Brzezinski. Kissinger recruited Klaus Schwab to kind of
use the Marshall Fund to put together the EU, and they want to do that with all regions. So
we, the people of the United States and the Constitution, are actually the barrier to them
having that happen. I get the EU because the European nations had a nasty habit of breaking out in these horrific wars.
And I think they all thought they were going to sort of put an end to that and create a federation.
Mind you, my opinion, the fact that they couldn't come up with a common currency or a common debt, really, they couldn't come up with a common debt, that meant this wasn't going to work.
And they're still struggling
with that uh but but my question is i was trying to think like the other side of the table when i'm
when i'm differing an opinion from somebody i mean what did a george bush think he was doing
well if he had said if i'd sat him down after he stepped out on the united nation floor and said
george what was that?
What are you doing here?
What do you imagine?
He wouldn't say, I hope the American Constitution goes away, would he?
Not so much.
I think he would say that basically it would be easier.
And this has a lot to do with banking, global banking, the Bank of International Settlements and how they run our feds. So why don't they stick with a common economic sort of rule
or something that, you know, why actual physical borders?
Why do we have to do away with the borders of nations?
Why don't we do away with banking borders or economic borders?
There's so many other ways to have done this.
And by the way, and so people understand,
we're not the only country pushing back.
Pretty much every country in Europe is going, wait a a minute they want to do away with who we are
i'm not sure we want to get we what does it mean to be french we want to preserve that what does
it mean to be german i you know and they're they're they're on it and mile went into the
davos and said you people are the problem and you know sort of threw a hand grenade in the
middle of all that so i feel like it's going the other direction but keep your comment no it is going the other direction but i
mean we do have to understand that their model is broken it is based on debt it is it is completely
failing so what is going on now is they're proposing to tokenize nature they're proposing
to make everything a commodity you will own nothing and be happy was the goal
and don't forget that they wanted the world
government. They laid it out in the League of
Nations. America rejected it.
They come back with the UN, the same people
and say, here, now we're going to do it this
way and we're all going to get along. Well, that's not the
goal. An open borders, open
society is so that the people living in the
country do not feel pride. They
do not feel connected. They don't have a set of values and principles that they share easier to destroy a
country when they can't unite which is exactly what we've been dealing with do you think that's
let's let's speculate here uh i've heard occasionally trump throw some barbs at the
un some really threatening things he said occasionally.
You think he's going to do away with it or step out of it or make it leave New York?
I do think so. Honestly, the United Nations is a gigantic money laundering operation. And
what they had promised was to end poverty, end endless war, and basically have peace throughout
the world. They failed on every mission that they were established to do.
And if you dig into it, you're going to find that these globalists, and when I say globalists, people have to understand this,
is multinational corporation boards and the international banks like IMF, World Bank, all them,
that are above us acting as if they can decide for 8 billion people what the future looks like,
and they do it through a monetary lens, where a lot of us do it through a humanity,
and what's best for the people of this country and the world.
They're doing it through efficiency.
How can we make it so efficient?
They're just two different mentalities.
One is pro-human, frankly, and one, like Dr. Zelenko said, is pro-controlling humanity.
They're very different options, very different opportunities within both those frames, but the globalists want to control.
And that is why right now what I call the parent company seems to be split because, honestly, Elon Musk and Peter Thiel and Ellison, they are in the global public-private partnership.
They go to Bilderberg. They go to Bilderberg.
They go to these meetings.
But the bottom line is it does seem that there's a break in it
where one side wants to go more towards the CCP technocracy
and the other side wants to use a technology
to better humanity and our future.
And they seem to be having a problem above,
which is Elon Musk representing one side and Klaus Schwab and the king of England representing another side.
And they're very ideologically different.
And the one thing I believe that they don't have in common is God and faith.
One side believes in God and faith and children and humanity.
The other one thinks, you know, again, just like limits of growth created the whole global warming is because of human interaction with the planet. No, but if they make humanity
the problem, then they come in with the solution for that problem. And that is the global public
private partnership and what they've been pulling all this time. Yeah. I mean, COVID exposed,
as you said, so much of this and who knew and it fundamentally though
when i think about the dark revelations of that time it really was centralization versus
decentralization like doctors have to follow a centralized sort of decision making as opposed to
sitting with a patient and doing what's based best for
that individual and always decentralized is better but you don't have to go back to adam smith
to really sort of instinctively know that this is a superior way that humans have always done things
and and then the the overlay that we have now recently discovered is bureaucracy
the enemy being the enemy,
and the adulterating influences on the bureaucracy.
Yeah, and also we have to acknowledge,
I have a book out, Americans Anonymous,
and I go through a recovery program
for the citizens of the United States
because everything he's doing at Doge
and Trump's doing in DC,
we have in our backyards, you know, in California.
Everywhere in this country, there is in our backyards, you know, in California, everywhere in this country,
there is infiltration that is subversive, you know, be it NGOs or no big contracts or, you know,
what's happening in school boards. But we, the people of the United States need to be the answer.
And that is why right now I've been saying to everyone, like we have 18 months because they're
not done with trying the fundamental transformation of America into this global kind of communist technocracy. But we, the people of
the United States, if we get involved locally and follow what Elon and Trump and them are doing in
DC, in our own counties, in our own communities, in our own state legislatures, and start to drain
our own swamps, then the people of the United States
will have a ripple effect and this country will change and I believe bring the rest of the world
with them back towards liberty and privacy and freedom. Because right now we're living in the
illusion of that. I think Tulsi Gabbard will be helpful now being DNI and actually dealing with
the post-Patriot Act blob that has no oversight and has been wreaking havoc on our country.
And we have to understand that basically the State Department, the CIA, and USAID are one
in the same, and they need to be reined in. But we, the people of the United States, as I say in
the book, we are as sick as our secrets, as many addicts have been. And we are addicted to this
conflict and chaos of the 24-hour news cycle
and reality TV world we're living in, we really have to take a step back, go inside, and realize,
you know, the striving towards a more perfect union was about we the people. This country by
the people, for the people, has been stolen from us because we haven't been vigilant, as we were
told by Ben Franklin, to make sure that we were vigilant to keep our constitutional republic.
And I really see a movement all throughout the country as Maha and MAGA got together of like-minded folks
that know that left and right Republican and Democrat is basically a fraud
and that it's really people that want freedom and justice and truth and transparency
and a good life for their family and their children to get together
and make
sure that we restore the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and our own destiny back into the hands
of the people. But that's going to require Trump winning was just a chance for we the people to
take back our country ourselves, as far as I can see. And Caleb, I wonder if you could find the
quote from Benjamin Franklin
that he says, essentially, we've given them a Democrat or Constitutional Republic. Let's see
if they can keep it. Something of that order with Mel's referring to. And please put it up on the
screen here. And you're also using code that suggests, have you interviewed Mike Benz on your
show? Oh, well, I know him in real life. Yes.
Yes, we talk the same language.
Yes, I'm hearing the Mike Benz language being coming through here.
And so with the AA...
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Look, I didn't know.
And with the AA lens on from Americans Anonymous
or the, you know, is it Cable News Anonymous or is it Social Media Anonymous?
We have different subgroups within the AA program.
Do we need to gather in groups or what's the prescription in the Americans Anonymous?
I think so.
I think so.
When I went through recovery 20 years ago in LA, I was shocked to walk into a room
where it didn't matter how much money you had, your color, what you did in your life.
Everyone in that room knew that they were the problem and that they were also the solution.
And I feel like if we have these freedom cells or neighborhood groups that are looking out for what,
where the taxpayer money in our own backyard is going, where, you know, where we're being,
you know, the sustainable goals are creeping in or the track is going, where, you know, where we're being, you know,
the sustainable goals are creeping in or the track and trace, internet of body, internet of things,
surveillance systems. These are things that all of us can agree are unacceptable as per our country and our constitution. I do think there should be groups. And honestly, when I look at all of this,
I think the addiction is to conflict and chaos, but I think that it has been brought upon us by dealers and suppliers. And I break it down in my book exactly how I
think that worked and how we got here. The demoralization, dehumanization, just kind of
the rock bottom feeling I got traveling all over this country, talking to real people.
It wasn't about Republican, Democrat, left or right. It was about what is happening to our
country and there's nothing I can do about it.
And that's not true.
And I want to empower people to empower themselves.
And I use the 12 steps kind of being like, okay, so there's problems and they're affecting you because this is your country.
What are you going to do about it?
And I give lots of exercises.
And frankly, and you've talked about it many times, I think that there is a psychological military level,
I've read it out of NATO's own documents,
psychological operation and cognitive warfare.
And we need to go inside
and reestablish what we believe for ourselves
and then take action where we are.
That's how we can save this country
and frankly, I believe the world.
The one dynamic from the drama triangle
there it is okay a lady asked benjamin franklin allegedly this by the way was a maybe apocryphal
uh what have we got and he said a republic or a monarchy and uh he stated a republic
if you can keep it so he was saying things like that i I'm sure. But I was seeing,
I see a lot of the drama triangle going on
with people getting addicted to being victims,
the victim role,
and then casting people as victimizers
and the victimizer is so-called.
No, no, no, I'm not guilty.
No, I'm not a racist.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.
And that's a sort of a classic situation
that we've set up here that we need to evacuate.
We need to get out of that drama, that drama setup.
And you said something fascinating here.
Two things I want to get to before I let you go.
One, I want to know about freedom cells and how we do that.
And then I want you to sort of set me up
for the conversation about automobiles
and how this surveillance state
is going to take over our transportation and stuff too.
But let's talk about freedom cells first.
Well, that's kind of the idea is when we were kids or I was a kid,
if there was robberies in your neighborhood, the parents would get together.
They'd all get involved and they'd look around and they'd, you know,
help make the neighborhood safer.
Well, I feel like we have a real threat from these globalist organizations
and from these NGOs
and from money being pumped into local communities
that really take away the power of the people
and locally is the best way to do it.
So to me, I see kind of the same model as AA,
community meetings, community oversight.
You know, we're having the Weaponization Committee oversight
in D.C. Why aren't we doing it in our own
backyards? You know, this is something
that people can get together and find
purpose and meaning and protect
where they live.
We need to take this personally
and I see a lot of the subversion
is really deep in. It's been for many
years and it's going to take all hands on
deck, but there are enough like-minded people
that believe we deserve privacy.
There needs to be warrants.
There needs to be, you know,
we need to know who's getting contracts,
where our money is going.
It's up to us to do that.
And it's really just having committee,
not committee, oversight groups
that are similar to Neighborhood Watch,
but they're Freedom Watch.
And I think it really makes a lot of sense.
And the advent of Zoom meetings lowers the bar to people entering these rooms. So we should do
Zooms. We should be combos. We should Zoom and in-person meetings. We should really get this
going. Caleb has given me a direction here. I'm not sure I totally get it.
So we'll do sort of a three-way conversation.
Is that what you're suggesting?
Jay Bieber is here, but if Mel K, if she can stick around,
I bet she has a lot of interesting insight
that she could add to some of the stuff
that he's going to be talking about,
about the cars and everything they're trying
to restrict of our freedoms.
All right, you're able to stay?
Sure.
All right. All right able to stay? Sure. All right.
All right.
Let's do it.
Let me give, well, I'll just, I'll intro Jay when we get back from this little break.
So Mel will stay.
Jay comes in.
We'll be here in a second.
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Jay Bieber is a champion of
citizen empowerment. He has been a key figure in eliminating abusive photo ticketing programs, which if you're not from Southern California, you wouldn't know how pathetic that all was.
He's the executive director of policy at the National Motorist Association. Fighting the war on cars, advocating for drivers. Jay Bieber, welcome to the program.
It's a pleasure to be with you again, Dr. Drew.
It's been too long since we've spoken.
It has been too long.
I think it was on the radio when I last saw you,
and I was complaining about the same thing then that I complain about now,
which is at that time, I'm sure I told you,
I wanted to take a horse and ride a horse to work
because the roads and the freeways did not work,
and the roads around the freeway were either restricted by bike lanes with no bikes in
it down to two lanes on Adams Boulevard or surrounding Adams so full of potholes.
It was more suited to an equestrian approach than the automobile.
Right.
And all of the stuff that comes out of the horse would have been absolutely
perfect for LA.
But they wouldn't notice it.
They wouldn't notice it.
There's so much of it here.
Yeah.
So no,
you know,
and it's,
and it's worse now.
We were,
we were all talking about this stuff,
you know,
it was happening in California,
happening in LA,
all the road diets, all of the stuff to force you out of your car.
And, you know, now it's sort of metastasized all over the country.
And, you know, the world folks are all into this stuff, too.
So, you know, it's been bad, and it's just getting worse, although there is a little bit of a light at the end of the tunnel i think here uh recently well i the thing i i remember i asked
what was the guy's name that pushed through that another billionaire and pushed through the electric
car mandate by 2030 something in california slater is that his name slater i think his name was
i asked him i was interviewing him no no no no no i'm pretty sure slater biz mccaleb maybe look that up for me and uh and i
asked him i go okay yeah okay well what do you do about forest fires because everything you're
going to undo by switching us over to electric it's going to be completely flattened by two
years of forest fires so why are we doing this and by the way how are you going to get the
electric grid up to being able to handle this you You got a nuclear plan? There's nothing. There's nothing. And here's the thing.
If you look at the data with regards to whether or not
electric vehicles are even better for the planet, just in terms of carbon emissions, I don't even
mean all the other negative consequences of all the mining
and that kind of stuff in terms of the environment and the generation of electricity and wind power
and solar power. But if you just look at the cradle to grave on electric vehicles, they are not
necessarily better for the environment in terms of carbon emissions, because you have to look at
the whole thing. And of course, they only want to look at whatever comes out of the non-existent
tailpipe and compare that to cars, because they hate cars. They hate people who drive cars.
They hate the fact that you have freedom using a car.
So they want to impose something on everybody
that restricts your ability to get around.
And I don't know if you must be on top of this.
The fees that now are required to enter the Manhattan Island.
Yeah.
You know, this is just another money grab.
New York, Manhattan
is horrible about this kind of stuff. They have
automated enforcement everywhere, which
are supposedly school zones
which run at 2 o'clock in the morning
and lower speed
limits there.
As far as the congestion pricing,
it's just another way to penalize
people who drive cars.
When you think about it, it makes no sense because I'm from New Jersey, so I'm really familiar with Manhattan.
And you don't drive into Manhattan unless you have a need to do so.
And so it's not like people are just driving there for a Sunday drive or a midweek drive.
You have to – you're there to do something.
They're talking about, oh, we've reduced the number of people that are crossing.
We reduced the number of people in the first few weeks.
I don't know that that'll hold,
but they say that that's a good thing.
It's not a good thing because that means that there's less economic activity happening.
People are less able to do what they need to do.
So, but they only look at one little aspect of it
because they hate freedom.
And speaking of hating freedom, I want to bring Mel in here.
One of the concerns is that with the electric vehicle, there will be some sort of surveillance system that they could put in place that could sort of, I don't know,
undo your car's ability to move forward.
Mel, you look like you want to say something.
Yeah, I mean, it's already happening.
First of all, just like you have the Lexa in your house,
they already have that in many cars that are,
especially the cars that are coming out since 2022, 2023,
where there's a recording device inside your car,
but then they also want to put a kill switch on your car
that your car could be turned off.
And then all of this,
as you guys were just talking about with Jay,
you have to understand that this is all part of that Agenda 2030, 17 development goals.
This is about the fraudulent part that Al Gore has brought out about that they want carbon tracing, carbon tracking of people.
So this goes into another reason they need us to have a global ID
because they have to trace how much carbon everyone's using,
and that would then lead to turning it off.
IDs, people can't get IDs.
They're unable to get IDs.
They don't know how to get IDs.
What are you talking about?
I'm confused.
The global ID.
Mel is absolutely right.
I mean, this is exactly what's going on. And she talks about the surveillance that's going on in your car. We've had black boxes in our cars for years, and so they can investigate that. But now in the cars that are connected to the internet, those cars are in real time giving out all of your data. And when I say all of your data, I mean all of your data. They track how hard
you brake, how fast you accelerate, what time of day you're driving, what kind of roads you're
driving on. And this is all stuff that is chopped up in this data and given to data brokers. And
then they sell it to whoever wants it, like your insurance company or whoever wants to control you.
And there's no reason why the government couldn't get a, couldn't get a hold of this because they want us to, how, how many miles is this person driving
here? This, this goes into that, you know, mile, that miles tax that they want to impose on
everybody. Everybody thinks that it's because, oh, we'll have to replace the gas tax because
there's not as much gas being used. It's because they want to control how many miles you drive.
And so when you, it'll be like tears. So first we'll say, okay, well, you get this many miles you drive and so when you what it'll be like tears so first we'll say okay
well you get this many miles and it'll cost you this much but if you want to go over that it'll
cost you this much more and then this much more and there was a proposal in one of the states
and one of these pilot programs to charge people more if the powers that be you know our overlords
decided that you could have taken that trip using a bicycle or transit they would have charged you
more per mile for that trip.
This is exactly what they want to do.
And you're right, it's these world organizations
like the World Economic Forum and all these folks,
they have a stated goal of reducing car ownership.
That is a stated goal of theirs.
Zero.
And Mel, back to the question.
Go ahead and answer that goal,
but also answer for me the question I asked about George Bush. Yeah, and that goal... everyone that they would like us all to be on something called a global public infrastructure. You can look, it's everywhere on all of the world NGOs and the UN places. And what they also need,
you have to understand, is they need a tremendous amount of energy to run their gigantic data
centers that are collecting all this data. So they propose that. They also need a tremendous
amount of water to keep them cooled.
So I believe that the whole thing about not wanting oil and gas and water and all of this
is about them needing it for their own needs and making it like, oh, well, we got to cut down on
this and that. Well, they can't run the technocracy that they run in China worldwide without the
amount of energy and water and all of that that we need
to run our lives. It is very convoluted, but it is about that. Is this why they've lightened up
on nuclear? They've suddenly become, they've gone from nuclear bad to nuclear good. Yeah.
Yes, exactly. Exactly. Capturing all the natural resources. And you're seeing it now. When you go to get a ticket, you have a carbon score, you know,
coming off of your United Airlines gives you a 14 on this trip.
And you're like, what is it?
All of this data, like Jay's saying, is being used to manipulate us
into thinking that we're the problem and that they're the solution if we follow this.
And it's not true. They just want all the natural resources.
Mel, you are the problem.
Let's be clear here.
And not only are you the problem,
you're running quite contrary to their big plans.
But Jay, I was in France about 18 months ago.
Maybe it was two years ago.
And I got home.
We'd rented a car.
We drove from Bordeaux to the coast.
And I got home.
I had three tickets. I had three tickets.
I had three tickets in the mailbox.
And thank God I spoke French so I could understand what had happened here.
And it was not cheap.
And it was astonishing.
And you feel very helpless when they come at you with that stuff.
Yeah, I mean, they want to bring this all over to NIC. But it's not just, I don't know what the tickets were for. I'm sure it was for you driving that stuff. Yeah. I mean, but this is, they want to bring this all over to NYC,
but it's not just,
I don't know what the tickets were for.
I'm sure it was for you driving exactly the speed that the roadway was
speeding.
It was speeding.
Right.
I was trying to get to the coast.
Right.
But,
but here's the thing.
I'm sure you weren't doing anything particularly dangerous.
You were simply driving at a reasonable speed for the way the roadway was
built,
but they had a speed limit on it that was different because they want to
make driving as slow and as miserable
as possible, so you don't do it.
And that's what's happening here in the United States.
But there are a lot of new
AI cameras that are
being placed
throughout Europe, and these things
can do a lot more than just check your speeding.
They can check what's going on in
your car. Are you drinking something while
you're driving? Are you wearing a seatbelt? Are you using your cell phone? Whatever it is that's the disfavor, there on in your car. Are you drinking something while you're driving? Are you wearing a seatbelt?
Are you using your cell phone?
Whatever it is that's the disfavor.
There are too many people.
Are you talking to somebody while you're driving?
Whatever it is that's the disfavored thing so they can penalize you for the slightest little thing that you do
so they can make driving as miserable and as expensive and as difficult as possible
because they think that by you getting in your car,
you're destroying the planet when you go to the grocery store.
You're laughing, Mel, but what's the appeal?
Why do people, I mean, so drive less, fine,
but why do they want to, why is anybody concerned with other people's freedoms?
That's such an odd instinct for me,
and yet I saw it in full bloom during COVID.
Yeah, I mean, this is also about liberty.
What is liberty?
What is freedom?
I mean, I think we've lost track.
We've just gone into autopilot.
That's kind of my whole thing.
We're accepting things.
And, you know, they do this predictive thing where they have these conferences,
and they show you what the world's going to look like so that you just say you have no choice. I really believe a lot of this that's coming from these organizations connected to the UN and the banks, I really think
that it is all about demoralizing and having people just feel helpless and go along with the
plan so that, you know, they can centralize everything and monetize nature and you own
nothing and be happy. It's very scary, but we do have to be very cognizant.
You know, I always say to people that are giving their eye scans at the airport,
which you don't have to do, that they never saw a minority report
where he has to, like, cut out his eyes because the retina scans.
Like, the government is not entitled to this information,
and we the people have to really look at where we can push back
because, like Jay's saying, a lot of this is about data.
And data is more valuable to the global public-private partnership than oil or gold.
And it's our data.
And in America, we have to stand up and say our privacy is not negotiable because right now it is being invaded in every which way.
But again, as I said, we the people of the United States getting together in local groups to push back, you know, in unison can change that. But if not,
they're going to be watching us every minute of every day and they are going to turn off your car
when you have used too much carbon. It is, I believe Al Gore's behind something called
climate trace that he wants everyone to have on their phone to track how much carbon they're using.
And now, last week at Davos, they were talking about now doing that with water.
So now having water credits.
I mean, this is all so ludicrous.
A lot of it has to do with the debt slave financial model, the fiat currency model failing,
and finding a way to monetize and tokenize nature
to continue down the path of the centralized control of the monetary
system is it i want at some point i want you to tell me what the serenity prayer is going to be
for the new aa that you've invented but i'm using the old one will not suffice same one okay all
right if you say so um but technology anonymous but right yes exactly exactly but but it hearing you say that
i'll ask each of you this um and first mel we need to repeal the patriot act a hundred percent
without a doubt i think it's the most unconstitutional thing absolutely there's no
there's no but here's the thing the source is is that how we got out of the barn here, Jay?
Is that really the, you know, when you look at the moments, is that the moment?
No. Well, I mean, it may be the moment, but I think, you know, look, this has been happening for a really long time.
Any sort of safety crisis, and we just saw this with COVID, which is, you know, if you can tell people that there's a safety crisis, then you can control them. And this is what's happening with cars. We haven't touched on this,
but this is the claim that's, you know, that it's, you know, cars are so dangerous. We have a,
we have a roadway safety crisis with the last administration was harping on over and over and
over again. It's not true because the fatality rate on, uh, for, for, um, for roadway fatalities has gone down by like 95% since cars were invented.
If it was anything else like cancer, we'd be singing from the rooftops. But for us,
it's a crisis because they want to control us and they want to control our lives. And one way to do
that, because if you think about all the freedoms that you have, you can't exercise those freedoms unless you can usually go somewhere. I
mean, yeah, we now have the ability to, you know, to communicate through these means, but this is
part of what COVID was about, which is if you lock everybody down, you can't exercise any of your
freedoms. Well, if you lock people down in terms of not having them be able to get around as easily,
they can't exercise their freedoms. And that's what this is all about.
They hate freedom.
It's so bizarre.
I feel so naive.
I remember when the Patriot Act was, I really do.
And COVID is what sort of alerted me to,
sort of startled me into some sort of awareness.
But I remember when the Patriot Act happened,
I was like, well, I got nothing to hide.
If you have nothing to hide, what's the big deal?
So they need some data, need some blah, blah, blah.
I was super, super naive.
And I guess it's hard to predict where this all goes.
Because when that all,
you got to remember when the Patriot Act started,
there was no Facebook and there was no data collection the scale we have now who could have foreseen but
isn't it interesting though and mel that these fundamental philosophical
constructs are there to protect us from every eventuality. Right. And you can't do that.
It's just not realistic.
And we can't live that way.
But the culture and the politics of fear works.
And that's what we've seen along the way.
But the Patriot Act, first of all, was written before 9-11.
And it was not able to pass.
Then after 9-11, you know, then it passed.
And I just talked to Ron Paul about this.
And what has happened, what you're saying, Drew, is true.
What has happened is that technology with social media,
with all different ways to gather our data,
with Alexa in the house and the things in the car,
there is no stop on it.
So it's not just the Patriot Act that was unconstitutional.
The entire DHS, TSA, all of this stuff.
I don't believe the story about the shoe bomber.
Why are we taking off our shoes in the airports?
Not one person has been stopped this way,
but it is a control mechanism.
It's to get us used to more and more control.
And frankly, I believe from all of my work,
it's very similar to what they have
in China. A lot of people were involved in building that track and trace surveillance in China.
And China is at the very top of the UN, treated like VIPs at the World Economic Forum. It's my
belief that they want to roll out that Chinese system to the world. And this thing standing in
the way is America and the Constitution of the United States.
Or otherwise, they would have just rolled it out under the guise of protecting us or keeping us safe.
Well, every time that they're telling us that they're doing something to keep us safe
or to help an oppressed group, they will take more and more liberty and privacy away from the whole.
And that is the problem. That is why I go through.
What is liberty? What is freedom? What are these goals?
And frankly, the Declaration of Independence is in my book, because if everyone read it right now, the 27 grievances, they would realize that we are in exactly the same place they were.
Just now, it's this overriding global public-private partnership that treats the planet like they're the parent company, and we have to do what they say.
And we don't.
They have no authority.
And I think America is going to be the first country to push back. And eventually I do believe that it will fall apart,
but we have to be aware and we have to be empowered by information and share it with the people we
have around us that what's happening with Doge needs to happen everywhere. And we all need to
join Doge in our local community and start to stand up for what is right and for what we have fought for,
which is equality among men, opportunity, prosperity, freedom, and most of all to me,
privacy and liberty. We the people, not we the sheeple, will have to have that on the wall with our 12 steps at the freedom conference the freedom meetings so jay what uh what is coming up what do people need to look out for what what you know where can
people sort of put their with the apply pressure well um certainly right now i think the best
opportunity we have for pushing back up against this other than your local level, that's always
a great place to keep an eye out. And what Mel is talking about makes a whole lot of sense.
But at the federal level now, we have new people in charge, especially the Department of
Transportation, whether it's, you know, whether it's EV mandates or any of these other things
to try to get you out of your car. I don't think they're going to keep going in this direction. I mean, there's been some good news, okay? Like right after Sean Duffy
was sworn in, they took down the webpages that were for complete streets. And if you don't know
what complete streets are, it's basically socialism for roadways, which means we have to give equal
and equitable space to everybody, including bicycles.
We have to take away car lanes and some of the stuff we were talking about before.
But they also took away the equity in roadway safety web pages as well.
And so this is a good sign.
We obviously have a whole list of other ones we want them to take down.
But even more importantly, they have to get rid of the folks that put these things up.
And hopefully those folks will be rooted out as well, because, you know, it's only a couple of months or, you know, a year and a half or whatever.
Who knows what the what the new Congress will be in the midterms. And once Trump is out of office, you know, hopefully, you know, hopefully a lot of these policies will continue.
But who knows what will take who will take over next?
So it's really important can we um can we can we get adams boulevard back can we get those bike lanes
that nobody ever ever uses back to the free automobiles so good news you know culver city
during the pandemic they they took they took of the three lanes in each direction on culver boulevard through the middle of culver city they took away two of the three lanes in each direction on Culver Boulevard through the
middle of Culver City, they took away two of the car lanes in each direction, gave one to bike
lanes and one to bus lanes, and only one for car lanes. And everything ground to a halt, especially
once people started getting back out of lockdowns. And the people came out with pitchforks and
torches, and they forced them to roll that back. So it's true, you can make a difference.
Organizations like ours, the National Motorist Association,
this is what we do every single day, is we fight for your freedom
to go where you want to go, when you want to go, how you want to go.
So individual work is great.
We can support folks at the individual level.
And joining the National Motorist Association, joining us, go to motorist.org.
We actually have a downloadable
if you go to our website right now,
which is what to do if you get pulled over by the police.
It's something really important that people should know
just in case they ever get pulled over
and it's not just an automated ticket
that you get when you come home from France.
And it's been a while since I've been to Culver City
and last time I was there,
before the rollback of the lanes, it was such a shit show. I just it's been a while. I've been to Culver city and I, I was last time I was there before the rollback of the lanes.
It was such a shit show.
I just haven't been back.
I used to go to Culver city all the time.
So Mel,
where would you like people to go?
We're going to kind of wrap things up here.
Jay has laid down his gauntlet.
Okay.
The Mel K show.com.
I have a great newsletter.
I have an excellent free resource page.
A lot of the stuff I talk about,
the receipts are on the Mel K show excellent free resource page. A lot of the stuff I talk about, the receipts are on the MelKShow.com
resource page, and I have a show every
single night on Rumble and where
free speech lives
podcast-wise.
Free speech lives
here too, by the way. That was one thing I came
to early in COVID was I became
an absolutist about that. I started
interviewing controversial people because
I wanted to hear what they had to say.
It's ridiculous.
So Jay, you can get at motorist, plural.org,
motorist, at motorist on X,
themelkshow.com and Mel K show,
not the Mel K show, Mel K show on X.
And guys, I really appreciate you being here.
I have a news flash.
Oh, uh-oh.
So I'm booking a flight from Venice to
Newark in May,
and it goes
through Frankfurt, and it's a lot less miles
on United than any other, you know,
it's like 395 miles versus 80. This is like
certain
white people problems here. Go ahead.
Oh, no. Well, yeah.
But anyways, it says
there may be travel restrictions in place for this destination.
Persons traveling by air to Germany who have been in resident U.S. for the previous six months must present a qualifying negative test result.
Oh, COVID.
Vaccine certificate or proof of recovery.
That's ridiculous.
Germany.
Okay, this is Frankfurt.
Okay.
We were in some airport stop off in Germany
a couple of years ago.
And when I walked around there and saw what was going on,
I thought, oh, we have another California.
It's called Germany.
So who knew?
Seriously, poor Germany.
But now it's...
Poor Germany.
Oh my God, they're losing it.
There's less miles to go through this destination.
I mean, I'm saving 295 miles.
So what do we have to go get?
Do we have to go get a nice job? We have to swab our nose
before we get on the plane. That's fine.
Whatever's. Whatever's.
I'll swab whatever.
Or we have to get you another Johnson & Johnson
and give you a thrombosis. They won't make us wear masks
on the plane though because that is not worth it.
That will not happen.
That will not. i refuse to do that
they're still doing this i mean i was like why is it such a lot people don't want to do bureaucracy
it's a bureaucracy does not move it does not respond does not does not care yeah but i'm
saving 400 000 miles so i'll swab my nose all right good guys i appreciate you being here
thank you for your work Thank you for your work.
Thank you for your show.
And I hope you'll come back and join us soon.
Anytime.
Thank you so much, guys.
Thanks.
All right.
You guys got it.
Tomorrow,
Jimmy Dore
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And then Susan,
tell us about your show
at three.
We're going to do
a psychic love line
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And we're going to have
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We're working on something.
Oh.
But just, I mean, just a little.
I'm trying to be, have fun for the-
Is Annie gonna call in?
Is that what's happening here?
No, I can't get him.
Oh, okay.
He refuses.
All right, well, too bad.
Robert S. Seen on the 18th,
Ethan Haim and Marcella Burke, attorney.
And then when it says to be determined,
believe me,
Barsh has got a lot of irons in the fire.
So it's not like we don't have anybody lined up.
It's about getting the bright people in the right slots.
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