Ask Dr. Drew - What Is A “15 Minute City” & Why Are They Part Of “The Great Reset”? w/ Marc Morano of Climate Depot – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 232

Episode Date: June 26, 2023

“A car-free lifestyle is only possible for those whose profession and income permit it,” tweeted Marc Morano, in a quote from a recent New Statesman headline. Are fears over climate change being used as a tool for technocratic totalitarianism: a coordinated push for “15 minute cities” where individuals own nothing? Marc Morano – a longtime critic of climate change policies – discusses environmentalism, medical tyranny, digital currency, and the Great Reset. Marc Morano is the founder and executive editor of ClimateDepot.com and the author of “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change” and “Green Fraud: Why The Green New Deal Is Even Worse Than You Think.” Follow him at https://ClimateDepot.com and https://twitter.com/ClimateDepot 「 SPONSORED BY 」 Find out more about the companies that make this show possible and get special discounts on amazing products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • PRIMAL LIFE - Dr. Drew recommends Primal Life's 100% natural dental products to improve your mouth. Get a sparkling smile by using natural teeth whitener without harsh chemicals. For a limited time, get 60% off at https://drdrew.com/primal • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew • BIRCH GOLD - Don’t let your savings lose value. You can own physical gold and silver in a tax-sheltered retirement account, and Birch Gold will help you do it. Claim your free, no obligation info kit from Birch Gold at https://birchgold.com/drew • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get an extra discount with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and reduce your risk of severe illness. You should always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health.  「 ABOUT the SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 WITH DR. KELLY VICTORY 」 Dr. Kelly Victory MD is a board-certified trauma and emergency specialist with over 30 years of clinical experience. She served as CMO for Whole Health Management, delivering on-site healthcare services for Fortune 500 companies. She holds a BS from Duke University and her MD from the University of North Carolina. Follow her at https://earlycovidcare.org and https://twitter.com/DrKellyVictory. 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 For over 30 years, Dr. Drew has answered questions and offered guidance to millions through popular shows like Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Dr. Drew On Call (HLN), Teen Mom OG (MTV), and the iconic radio show Loveline. Now, Dr. Drew is opening his phone lines to the world by streaming LIVE from his home studio. Watch all of Dr. Drew's latest shows at https://drdrew.tv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And as we've been trying to make sense of what's been going on, Mark, I think adds another layer to this whole conversation. You can follow him at Climate Depot on Twitter. Please welcome Mark Moreno. Thank you, Dr. Drew. Happy to be here today. Thank you very much. So we appreciate you being here very much. You were telling me all kinds of things before the mics heated up. I said, well, hold up. I want to get this all on where people can listen to it. Talk to me for a minute about the conflation of lockdowns and how COVID seems to be an opportunity for a permanent health crisis. Now we're going into climate crisis. Yeah. What happened was in March of 2020, when unfortunately Donald Trump signed on the COVID emergency declaration and signed on with Deborah Birx and Anthony Fauci, two weeks to flatten the curve, that set the stage in the United States, of course, was also happening globally,

for the complete shutdown of the global economies and shutdown of airline industry, shutdown of travel. Now, most of us were horrified at this and just couldn't believe it or thought, okay, two weeks, we can do that and then we'll reopen. But a certain segment of the population, two segments in particular, public health bureaucrats and climate activists in the climate establishment loved this. We had people like Teen Vogue climate activist,

Jamie Margolis say, if the world can shut down for a virus, we can do the same thing for climate. John Kerry, the climate envoy for Biden, said, COVID and climate, the parallels between the two are screaming at us. And what happened was a little group called the World Economic Forum in Davos was established in 1971, and the originator,ator really of woke capitalism. He came up with stakeholder capitalism, Klaus Schwab. And the genius of the World Economic Forum is they bring presidents, prime ministers, royal family, cabinets, bureaucrats, corporate CEOs,

millionaires and billionaires all off the books every year in Davos for meetings for people who don't ever really want to meet in public and don't want to go through all the lobbying and disclosure rules and have scrutiny back at home. So they bring them all together. And this is where you get a lot of this corporate government collusion coming directly from Davos, from these meetings.

So what happened was in June of 2020, just three months after the initial lockdown, the head of World, Klaus Schwab, announced to the world that now is a rare, narrow window of opportunity by which to reset the world, this time in the name of climate change. And he said, we'll build back better. And he said, this is a great reset. Well, immediately, Joe Biden used the phrase build back better. You had Justin Trudeau saying the phrase great reset. You had Al Gore on Today Show using it. All of our climate activists, a lot of the Western leaders

immediately jumped on this. Remember, the World Economic Forum is deeply entrenched in every world government. In fact, he brags that he penetrates the cabinets of half the world. And he really does. If you look at who comes out of the young leaders programs, all the training programs, all of the affiliates between a lot of these presidents, prime ministers that come from the World Economic Forum. Anyway, make a long story short, they did a narrow window of opportunity. And that's when essentially they said, we're going to, the lockdowns are great. We have to keep this going. And the most important aspect of the lockdowns was they bypassed democracy. And that's what climate had been missing for decades. They had originally, Obama tried cap and trade, failed. John McCain and Joe Lieberman tried cap and trade. Climate bills in Congress failed. And so they realized we're not going to get this

through democracy. They didn't need to anymore. March of 2020 changed the entire climate debate. They could now bypass democracy by essentially doing this all through the executive branch and doing it through court, bypassing even the courts. In many cases, it takes years for the courts to catch up. But essentially, we're now modeling ourselves after one party ruled China the same way in COVID. And this is the key point. We had churches closed, schools closed, businesses closed, weddings, funerals canceled, mask mandates, vast mandates. What did all those have in common? No one voted for it. You can look at Europe, you can look at Australia, New Zealand. These were all done under emergency decree. And they were done by once free Western democracies. The largest intrusion of personal freedoms outside of wartime.

I think in the U.S. history, you could almost argue in terms of general population. Obviously, you have slavery, segregation, but I'm talking about that. So what happened was- Japanese internment. In Japanese internment, obviously, yeah. So what happened was this is you had the bypassing of democracy. And if you go back, and I do in the book, you can start decades ago, New York Times, Tom Friedman praising China's one party rule. You have Justin Trudeau admiring their basic dictatorship, UN climate chief saying US democracy detrimental to climate agenda. You have the Apple CEO saying Apple and China's values align. You have world, Klaus Schwab himself praising China's one party rule. So what happens is the West became

one-party rule. The most consequential decisions in peacetime for the broad majority of Americans were made without a single vote. You were masked, school canceled, stay-at-home orders. And that is what really piqued the interest of the climate activists. And that is why the rare, narrow window of opportunity, that is where the World Economic Forum stepped in. And that is where we are today. Three years later, this is in full swing. They're making the most out of that, quote, rare narrow window of opportunity to reset the world. There's an interesting piece of history as it pertains to lockdowns, which is that they were never contemplated. That seems like there's no literature, there's no there's no precedent there's nothing uh china did it then we got hoodwinked by their scientists who

made claims that they had eradicated um covid in china but that wasn't the big thing the big move was when the lombardi in italy the lombardi politicians decided to model what they were doing after China and then later published a book where they said explicitly they really weren't doing it because of COVID. They were doing it because they admired China's ability to do these things. And it was an opportunity to show how that kind of party. And then we jumped and the whole world jumped in after that. It was one of the biggest hoodwinks in, oh, it's got to be the biggest hoodwinks of all time. But to that point about this one party rule and, you know, not being non-democratic,

have you seen the World Health Organization's new plan to be the sovereign entity in the world above all the other elected sovereign officials? Yes. I feature that. Even the Washington Post called it the World Health Organization's radical pandemic treaty. And what they're trying to do here is think of Sweden. Think of Rhonda Sandis in Florida or Kristi Noem in South Dakota. They want a global treaty, which the Biden administration is actually wants to go further than the World Health Organization. They want to be able to impose global instant lockdowns, travel restrictions, vaccine mandates, and they want to get rid of the outliers like Florida, like Sweden, because they don't like the dissent. And this is going forward,

at least with the Biden administration. Now, Donald Trump pulled us out of the who, then Joe Biden put us back in. So this is going to be an ongoing battle. But this is the most frightening an ongoing battle. But this is the most frightening thing because you have a Bill Gates-funded scientist. And remember, Bill Gates' foundation is only number two to the United States government in donations to the World Health Organization. But if you add in other Bill Gates entities, he is either equal to or

slightly surpasses the U.S. donation. So what we're really saying is that a Bill Gates-funded scientist at the WHO can declare a pandemic, and then the United States will be following this global, instant sort of lockdown or whatever the WHO recommends. Their recommendations will then become policy. It is perhaps the most frightening aspect of this that we're currently facing. And unfortunately, it seems like Capitol Hill is dead to this and not even really paying much attention you don't hear senators congressmen talking about this right back so it's true so what is convincing them that this is a good idea to what they want to do is eliminate the lockdown

the eliminate the outliers who had better outcomes whom the the evidence suggests were doing the correct thing. So what is convincing them that they need this authority? Well, what's convincing them is because you have outliers, it undermines confidence in the public health messaging. This is why you have people like Robert Malone who are banned, but you have Peter Hozak who literally started out by saying you need one shot, it works, or you need two, and he got to the point where he's saying five or six, the public health advocate who refuses to debate on Joe Rogan and with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Hotez. Hotez, yes. So the reason they have to get rid of the outliers is because it

shows that they're wrong and it makes people question. But the other thing is, you mentioned China. China, who is beholden to China? Tedros is in their pocket. But the other thing is, you mentioned China. China, who is beholden to China? Tedros is in their pocket. As you look at it, Bill Gates just was in China this week praising Xi Jinping. And what happened was, go back to January 2020, go back to February 2020, the World Health Organization sent a sham investigative committee to China. And they praised China for their openness. They praised China for their pandemic response, which was the most draconian, totalitarian lockdowns. And they literally said the phrase, if you want to know how to handle this pandemic, copy China. And that's exactly what the rest of the world did. And you mentioned Lombardi, Italy. Then at one point,

Anthony Fauci, I believe it was February of 2020, actually said, can you imagine us doing what China's doing? You know, imagine New York City or San Francisco shutting down. He couldn't imagine that happening until until they could imagine it. And that's why. So so that's why this pandemic treaty is so critical, because they want to get all the wrong lessons of what we experienced. And they want to codify it into an international treaty, much like they tried for years with the climate treaties. But the climate treaties were paper tigers and literally look quaint next to what they're trying to do with public health at the World Health Organization.

One of the things that confuses me, by the way, I recently went down a rabbit hole with Jo juiced merlu uh a danish is he danish or dutch dutch i think uh physician did you know this guy juice just merlu no i don't know that okay m-e-e-r-l-o-o he was a a victim of world war i, Jewish guy, I believe, and observed carefully how totalitarianism comes in and what it does and the techniques it uses. And they studied China. It's always the same. And one of the key elements he had in there was they induce fear repeated episodes of fear and propaganda and fear and propaganda and that they do it in the name of doing good for the world

and for people it's always with the best of intentions always uh and yet the the amount of harm that is done in every historical piece of evidence we have is just astronomical. And the only sort of way out is by resisting, right? And it's interesting. I've often felt here like we're doing sort of a French underground kind of resistance strategy here with broadcasting different ideas and different things. And it's just putting it out there for people to have access if they do with it what they will, but give people the opportunity to think about things differently. And when it comes to this particular topic, one of the things I don't understand is what is the expectation? Let me just assert something. World seems to be, climate is changing.

Climate is changing. I'm just going to assert that. Climate is changing. Of course, under my breath, I can easily say climate has always changed, whatever. What is the expectation that we can change that? Let's say we all got together in unison in a World Health organization style mass something

what is the expectation that we could change the way the earth climate behaves is there really people that think they can it's literally like can they can they switch the axis can we make the globe not turn it feels like that kind of a thing. Even if you assume that we contribute to it, our contribution in reversing, it's not going to reverse anything, is it? Is there an expectation of that? I mean, there's definitely an expectation of that, but I don't even talk about climate science anymore, mostly because they don't even care that much about it, meaning the UN, World Health. They've just declared it a climate emergency, and they want to impose these policies. Now, John Kerry, on multiple occasions, the climate

envoy, has said, even if the United States zeros out our carbon dioxide emissions to zero, till we literally shut everything down, the world won't even notice, essentially. It will keep, basically, keep going up. China now, India, all the the developing world so even if you believe the scare nothing we can do will change it so everything we're doing is sort of a virtue signal in hopes that the rest of world take leadership and the rest of the world will follow but you'll have like the UN and no they eat the UK energy chief a few years ago when we were going through like you know climate pause and the temperature chief a few years ago, when we were going through like, you know, a climate pause and the temperature drops a few years in a row, she actually started crediting the solar and wind mandates with essentially cooling the earth and changing the climates. So they actually do believe

this. But you mentioned something important, Dr. Drew, is the fear. In the book, I quote a BBC historian that goes back to the Roman Empire, the Senate, the Roman Republic, through the Middle Ages, they used emergency powers. In other words, crisis. We need to seize power. We need to have no dissent because we're facing a crisis. So through the Middle Ages, through the Germany 1930s, think back to 9-11 when we had, and we're still living under that, by the way, that George W. Bush 9-11, essentially terrorist emergency, gets extended by every president. Joe Biden just extended it. That, of course, brought on domestic surveillance of U.S. citizens, which later would be, parents would be considered domestic terrorists by the Justice Department. All that's a legacy of the 9-11

Emergency Powers Act. Then you had the COVID Declaration of Emergency, which just ended only because the Republican Congress forced Biden's hand and a few Democrats. That just ended in March of this year. Years of that. And what do they want to do next? Using this fear, Joe Biden is being urged by AOC, by Senator Markey, by Senator Schumer in New York

to declare a national climate emergency. Again, this is similar to COVID, similar to the 9-11 type emergencies. And Biden, the Center for Biological Diversity estimated last summer that this would give Biden 130 new executive powers, but not just Biden, mayors, governors, they would have the power potentially to say there's a climate emergency. We're going to have a gas station, odd even days. We're going to limit car travel. We're going to shut off travel in the city. We need to put in a higher gas tax. We don't need the legislator because we're operating under the emergency. We have 130 new executive powers.

Health emergency. Health emergency. Health emergency. You see how this works? Health emergency. Yeah, and this is health emergency. Exactly, just like the health emergency. So throughout history, the ruling class has always tried to find reasons why the rest of us can't be free, and you are spot on when fear is the number one tool that they use to convince us. Fear of terrorism, fear of a virus, fear of a climate, and only they, the experts, the expertocracy in which we live, can impose this upon us because they think if left to our own devices, we'll create inequity, racism, environmental destruction, because we're not as educated as the people who have PhDs in climatology, PhDs in public health, decades of experience. In other words, if you're a parent of a first grader who's masked eight

hours a day, how could you go to a school board and say, I don't want my kid masked anymore? Their response back would be, we have public health experts with 30 years experience, PhDs who've studied this, and they're doing this for your children's own good. Who are you to question it? You're a plumber. You're a mechanic. How dare you question that? You have no say in this. That is the whole version of the hellscape in which COVID brought to the fore in March of 2020. So using fear, again... So glad I didn't have little kids. So using fear is something that is anathema to proper public health. And yet it was a major instrument during COVID, and people seem enamored with it. I can only conclude it's for the same reason that Juiced Miralou

observed many, many, many times in his historical documentation. But my more, again, the thought bubbles over my head of what's going on always. Why are we not also, let's again, let's assume, let's just state for an assumption that there is a climate crisis and we do contribute. Let's just state that. Let's just say that's a given. Why aren't we shining a light on or advocating for the thing that has always gotten us out of real crises, which is technology and innovation? Why aren't we talking about carbon capture? Why aren't we talking about forestry management? Why

aren't we talking about things where we innovate, which is what this country does better than anybody, to get us out of trouble, as opposed to hiding under our bed. My real question is not why we don't do that, but what has happened to us that we lost our ability to understand that that is how we get out of trouble? Yes, in fact, here's a good example. You're spot on. 1970, the first Earth Day. I can have some ambivalent feelings about it because you had a subset of radicals that have continued Earth Day or a part of Earth Day. But the general thrust of 1970, the first Earth Day, was Americans disgusted with the air quality in big cities, the water quality in rivers, and the pollution and trash throughout

our cities and towns. So that was one of the very good thing that happened. And so what that did, more than any regulation, is it sent a signal to businesses, to government leaders, and to the population that people value a clean environment. So what happened since 1970? Radical improvements in air quality and water quality to the point now where even the World Health Organization says the United States has among the cleanest air in the world. So we're one of the leaders when it comes to clean air, clean water. And what we've done at the same time is increased our population, increased our economic growth dramatically. We did it through technological innovation. If you really did care about CO2. Yes, food supply.

Listen, when I was last worried about this in my life, I was 22 years old, and it was acid rain, and it was algae blooms, and it was the phosphates, and we were done for. There's going to be massive famine. That's it. It's over. And then the botany biologists came up with solutions, and that was the end of it. I mean, every single time when we get out of trouble, it's because somebody innovates. And we do have innovation on the books. It's just not being emphasized.

Yeah. In fact, one of my things I did, I grew up sort of a Republican environmentalist, didn't like Ronald Reagan's James Watt, his interior secretary, didn't like all the logging. I was so concerned about the Amazon rainforest. If you remember, this was the issue du jour before climate. You had Sting's Rainforest Concert, which I actually interviewed Donald Trump at Sting's Rainforest Concert in the late 90s. I mean, he was attending. Howard Stern would go to these, all these Hollywood celebrities. Disney did movies on it, all the National Geographic.

Well, what happened to that whole scare? 2008, the New York Times, I did a documentary on it, all the National Geographic. Well, what happened to that whole scare? 2008, the New York Times, I did a documentary on it called Clerical News, but 2007, I believe it was, the New York Times did an article for every acre of rainforest cut, 50 are being regenerated. It's what you're saying, technology and innovation. The poor migrants who lived in the jungles moved to cities. So first of all, they're leaving the jungles. And second of all, the forestry practices. I interviewed forestry experts. You can now log forests using so-called sustainable forestry instead of clear-cutting, cutting out swaths.

Within seven years, you can't distinguish between the species or plant or animal species of a forest that's been logged versus not. So they've got better logging techniques. People are leaving the jungles, going to cities and urban areas. And that's one thing. The other thing I want to mention is in 2000, late 2007, 8, they had a bunch of energy predictions about where our trajectory was going with American energy. And no one foresaw the fracking revolution. In fact, the United States led the world in reducing CO2 because we had the technological innovation of fracking

and natural gas replacing coal power in the United States. So we did better than all the people in Europe who shamed Donald Trump for pulling out of the UN Paris Agreement. The US was leading the world in reducing CO2 emissions. At the same time, we were energy dominant for the first time since Harry Truman was president, because we were booming domestically with energy to the point where we had more energy exports than imports.

And we had, because what happens is Joe Biden came in and then offshored all of our energy, started offshoring energy, to the Middle East, to China, to Venezuela, and even Russia. And what happens is all we're doing is sending our energy needs to countries with poor human rights and environmental records, which means they're going to have more CO2 emissions. So innovation is absolutely the way forward, whatever you believe about climate change. And that should always be the method to go. But that's the point. Both sides of the argument should agree on that one thing. Whether you believe we are significantly impacting or can significantly do anything with it or not, you should still be advocating for innovation. And

that's that. I mean, this is what I keep saying. If you're really serious about this, why are you not serious about carbon capture? Why are you not serious about nuclear energy? Why are you not serious about proper forestry management? Why not? Tell me why. I mean, I understand nuclear's got a bad rap, but they don't understand the fifth generation reactors that are out there. But go ahead, Mark. Well, the big reason is they're focused on mandates. They're focused on banning. I mean, so what you've seen since March of 2020 at an unbelievable accelerated pace is the essentially the intentional collapse of energy to the point where the UK power chief, the sweet, the Sweden's power chief are all saying people can't get used to constant electricity when it's available. It's the intentional collapse of energy creating shortages, and then they want to nationalize the industry.

The intentional collapse of transportation, France banning flights of less than two and a half hours with talk of possibly going to four-hour bans, an EU-wide ban being pushed by Greenpeace's six-hour ban, forcing people into cars, which is, by the way, a higher death toll than flying, and trains. And then you also have the electric car mandates, gas powered car bans coming from California, starting California executive order, then the unelected air resources board implements it by 2035, trying to eliminate gas powered engines. 20 states under trigger laws are going to be following it. The Biden administration wants a model at the federal level. Here's how deep it gets, Dr. Drew.

The World Bank telling automakers that they're not going to be financing gas-powered cars. Corporate banks, one in Australia and others, are now announcing they won't give out car loans if you buy a gas-powered car. And you have cities in Colorado, California, banning the creation of new gas stations, creating gas station shortages. So here's a question. Did anyone vote for banning gas powered cars?

Did anyone vote for making meat a rare and expensive treat in the world economic form? You got Bill Gates, intentional collapse of agriculture. Bill Gates, number one farmland owner in America. By the way, just edged out China, by the way, as a farmland owner. What's Bill Gates' stated goal? And by the way, that's according to NBC News. So that's not like some secret document or anything like that.

Bill Gates' stated goal is to get the Western world to eat synthetic beef. He's invested in the vegetable oil meat, but he's also invested heavily with Richard Branson, another billionaire, into the lab-grown meat. And I'm not making this up. They get the stem cells from a cow or a lamb with fetal blood. They put it into a steel vat. They grow it. They have additives. They might need antibiotics. And then in the end, they print it on a 3D printer with food coloring and dye to imitate the texture of the meat. Bill Gates says. And then in the end, they print it on a 3D printer with food coloring and dye to imitate the texture of the meat. Bill Gates says that no one in the Western world should be eating livestock, actual animal

meat. We should only be eating synthetic beef. And he's trying to make that a reality. As America's number one farmland owner, he has huge sway, not only in public policy at the WHO, but also in agricultural policy. So, intentional collapse of energy, but also in agricultural policy. So intentional collapse of energy, transportation, and now food. That is what the Great Reset is really all about. And that's what we're living through at this moment. They're creating intentional shortages so that they can

then either nationalize industries or subsidize people who can't afford it. Universal basic income comes to mind. And then those voters are beholden to the people pushing these policies. This certainly does look like every historical evolution into trouble. I mean, all the earmarks are there. I do think people are pushing back a little bit, but the question is, are they pushing back enough? And in the meantime, you have the EU and Canada seemingly all in on all this stuff um i don't know maybe we should align ourselves with africa who seems to have no patience with any of this and and might be an interesting way they refused the vaccine and they couldn't even they couldn't even give africans the vaccine and africa fared better than any other

continent uh the african citizens of course're younger, but they they literally couldn't force the vaccine on them. They didn't want it. And so what ends up happening, even like everything weird Orwellian stuff, like, for instance, if you're a vaccine denier, the Merriam-Webster dictionary changed the definition to not someone who doesn't take vaccines and never takes it, but someone who doesn't support vaccine mandates. So they've changed the language on this. Wow, that's interesting. It's incredible. So you could have taken every COVID vaccine, every booster, and still be a vax denier because you don't support vaccine mandates, according to the new dictionary definition. Oh, my God.

So, Mark, take a breath. We're going to pay some bills. There you go. Caleb's got it up there, the anti-vaxxer thing. Mark's book is The Great Reset. Let's put that up there as well. Please check that out. And when we get back from this little break, 15-Minute Cities, I've heard a lot of, I really don't know anything about it.

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Yes, on Rumble, and it's on drdrew.com as well. Yeah, it's very interesting. The other interview is going up on this Friday. She talks about all the benefits of bone broth. It's fermented as opposed to done. Everything is done very, very carefully. And back to the climate thing. And it helps your gut, too.

They're regenerative agriculture specialists, and they're paying a lot of attention to the land and the animals, and it's done properly. So look, let's bring Mark back. Mark Morano, again, the book is The Great Reset. Whitening your teeth with Mark Morano. We're taking aim at some of this stuff. He has nice teeth.

But like everything that gets excessive, which is really what we're complaining about is the excesses of this thing. Because I'm all for regenerative agriculture. I'm all for paying attention to carbon. I'm all for it. But it's the excesses and the mandates and the totalitarian approach

that really is what is so disturbing. And it was the same in COVID. Same exact thing. It is. And that's really almost like, that's almost the end game more than anything, is how can they seize control in COVID climate? By the way, COVID was so much more effective than climate. Remember Greta Thunberg's, I want you to panic. That's what she told the UN in her famous speech in New York. I want you to panic. Why? Because when you panic, you don't make good decisions. You're not rational. You're emotional and you're rushing.

And so that's what they did during COVID. They said, we want you to panic. But here's the difference. You can't get people to be afraid of, you know, whether hurricanes are going to be bad in the year 2050 or how many polar bears, but you sure can scare the hell out of them. If you say, grandma's going to die, Your kid's going to die. We need to lock down. In Spain, they wouldn't even let kids out of the house for weeks on end. And don't think we had it too easy because in the United States, I think it was Deborah Burks who at one point praised Italy's extreme lockdown and said wouldn't it have been great if we had locked down like Italy where you could only leave your house one hour a week and you needed a government permit to go to the grocery store? This is what these public health mentality was.

I'm telling you, people, the whole the whole fictional notion of the mad scientist and the mad doctor, I'm telling you where it came from. It came from physicians that become evangelical on a topic. When they're evangelizing and not doing their job in a systematic way, when they become evangelical, you get opioid overprescribing. These were, they were pain evangelists. You get Deborah Birx running around the country evangelizing for lockdown. That is how humans get harmed. And it doesn't

take a large number of these physicians to get control of the regulatory agencies and to have a massive impact on our lives. So please be aware of that. My other question is you keep saying that they want control. They want control. That's what they're going for. Do they know that's what they're doing? Or is there something intrinsic in human nature that in history, humans, when they gather in organizations, eventually do something like this? Well, it's an ideology. What I mean is they know they're doing it. Again, in my book, I go back in the United States, it really goes back to Woodrow Wilson, and it was called the administrative state. Woodrow Wilson, when he was president, about 1914, they came to

him with this proposal of essentially making life better for Americans. And what does that mean? Now, I'm giving you the positive spin, their side of it. You'll see it as control, but this is the way they see it. And so they proposed to Woodrow Wilson that essentially experts would take over many aspects of American society and make it easier for people to go about their daily lives. In other words, you would have, in effect, by the time they got to Franklin Roosevelt, I quote Stuart Chase, who was his socialist kitchen cabinet advisor. And he literally proposed in the 1930s, just 20 years after Woodrow Wilson was proposing the administrative state, essentially a primitive version of the great reset where they actually openly talked about

government control of communication and propaganda. That's their word. And that's what they're doing today. Make no mistake, big tech censorship is government censorship. We know now, obviously, through the Twitter files and through the Freedom of Information, that the government was farming out censorship to big tech, direct collusion between the government, between our intelligence agencies and censoring people. So that's what they proposed in the 1930s. They also proposed nationalizing our food production, nationalizing our energy and nationalizing our transportation. Everything we're talking about now. The difference is they had a slow creep and you had, you know,

you had back and forth throughout the decades, a big pushback when Reagan was elected, another pushback in the 90s, then you had advances maybe with Obama with bypassing democracy. But March of 2020 changed all of that. So the idea behind this is they think they're saving us from ourselves. Remember, that's what lockdowns were. We couldn't be told a guidance like wear a mask or stay at home. We had to be mandated to do it. They had to force us. They had to go to the point where L.A. Mayor Garcetti was threatening people if they had too many people and their backyard barbecue neighbors would get rewards if they snitched on you and you'd have your utility, your water and your electricity cut off. That's the difference. They thought they were helping society and helping people. So it's a mindset.

It's not necessarily, I don't want to simplify this as A, they're being paid or B, they're just power hungry. They actually believe they're doing good. And I think that's really what's ultimately not necessarily Klaus Schwab. I think he's evil, if that can be used there. But I think a lot of the corporations and a lot of the cabinet ministers and a lot of the bureaucrats who go to these Davos meetings, they think they're helping people because they just think, look, we're the experts. We've studied this.

We come from the best universities. We have decades of experience. We have advanced degrees. Why would you let a plumber in Idaho make these decisions about their lives? We'll do central bank digital currency. We'll stop the misinformation so these people don't die because they're refusing to take this life-saving vaccine. We're going to improve the food supply. If they keep farming the way they have for thousands of

years, they're going to end the planet. So we need to introduce insects as an alternative protein. We need to have this lab- grown meat. And the same thing, transportation, we can't let people drive these cars. It's out of control. We need to force people, essentially, the World Economic Forum, their great reset vision is you'll own nothing and be happy. Well, for transportation, you could say you'll go nowhere and be happy, because that's really what they're pushing in that. So is that the mindset. Is that the 15-minute city? Tell me about that. What is that model?

Yes, this is something. Well, if you want, I should say start on slide 24, and I was going to just run through to lead up to the 15-minute city to give you an idea of where this is coming. So can you show the PowerPoint on slide 24? The 15-minute city is just now being experimented if it starts next year in oxford england is one of the first places to actually implement it but here's why it's an extreme climate view remember how we had covid zero and you had new zealand trying to push that the idea of no cases

if even one case you shut down by the way Gates, multiple occasions has said, if you want to know how to handle the next pandemic, do what Australia did. And what did Australia do? They had the second most draconian lockdown next to China. And Bill Gates, this is what he's pushing. So if you go back to 2013, the UN and the climate world actually said, Ivo de Boer, the only way the UN Paris climate agreement, we can achieve the goal is to shut down the global economy. Now, go to the next one because I'm leading up to 15-Minute City. In November 2019, right before COVID lockdowns, the UN, this is the actual screenshot of the UN website, they demanded 7% yearly cuts in CO2. What happened? Boom. You fast forward. Next slide. 2020, one year later, with COVID

lockdowns, guess what? We achieved the climate goals of the United Nations. There was an exact 7% reduction in CO2. That is as impressive as Babe Ruth calling where he's going to hit the baseball in that controversial claim that they had from the 1930s. So let's go to the next one here. In 2021, the UK Guardian's headline, global lockdown every two years needed to meet the Paris goals. So this is the mindset of public health. This is the mindset of the climate and the bureaucratic establishment beholden to the World Health Organization and the UN. Remember, 2018, World Health Organization declares climate the existential threat of the 21st century. So they're already on top of this. Next slide. This is important because the International Energy Agency in 2021 was pushing a shift away from private car use and upper speed limits as well

as thermostat controls go to the next one this is major organs of our society the next one is a UK absolute zero report and if you look at it stop flying no new roads airport closures stop eating beef stop doing stop doing anything that causes emissions so I'm just setting this up for you dr.. Drew. This is the mindset of these city planners, of the bureaucrats who are enamored with the United Nations, world health, world economic. Go to the next one.

This is the journal Nature, the premier scientific journal of the world. Now people say, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist. Media Matters calls me a great reset conspiracy theorist. But wait a minute. Everything I'm citing is mainstream, corporate, mainstream peer-reviewed journal. I'm not citing secret documents.

I'm not citing secret recordings. I'm not citing obscure blog posts. I'm giving you what they're saying, the quiet parts out loud. The journal Nature, and I think this is 2021, COVID lockdowns are key to begin personal carbon allowances to achieve a safer climate. And this is what they started. So they're starting, this is in the scientific journal calling for carbon budgets. We're leading up to this. The

British Medical Journal called for meat and dairy consumption. But look at the transportation, substantially fewer journeys by car. Did you ever think the British Medical Journal would be talking about how often you drive your car? They're not doing it because it's bad for your health to drive your car. They're saying it because it's bad for the planet. This is where they're coming from. Next one. And then this leads us, here we are. This is the Oxford Mail reporting on what they call traffic filters or 15-minute cities. And this is now being pushed throughout Europe and it hasn't come to the United States just yet, but this is,

it's already appeared in Bristol, Ipswich, London, Birmingham, Oxford. And the idea here is they're going to, city planners and bureaucrats are going to make your experience living everything within a 15-minute walk. Your doctor, your job, your gym, your businesses, your grocery store. There's no reason to leave. If you remember the words in New Zealand Prime Minister, stay in your bubble during COVID lockdowns. You're supposed to trust the government as the only source of news. But she said, stay in your bubble. This is essentially, instead of your COVID bubble, this is your climate bubble.

Now, what they do is if you leave the neighborhood, they can actually fine you. You can get, I think, starting out up to two visits a week, if I'm not mistaken, at the Oxford model. And what's funny is they did a whole, city council did a whole fact check and the media picked up like, Oh, these are, these are people misinterpreting what we're doing. I use the, if you ever, this is a little shortcut for you. If you look at any fact check from corporate media, usually you can find the truth in those, but what they do in the fact check, it's a misdirection. They give some extreme claim that no one's making and they spend 80 of the article telling you how these are all lies and don't trust media and this agency's wrong and none of this is true and then they actually incorporate what is true and that's usually

how i when i did my book the great reset i would use a lot of these fact checks and i and buried in the fact check was the truth and it validated the legitimate concerns now most of the fact checks spent time on stuff that no one was claiming or that maybe a few people on Twitter or some social media. But essentially, you get to leave a few times a week. If you leave, you have to pay a fine. They've actually had videos now of some of these practices where they have gates up for people trying to escape. And the idea is you don't need to leave. This was one of the things when the Great Reset, World Economic Forum, actually did a video, You'll Own Nothing, Be Happy.

And they actually said everything you want will be delivered by drone. And their vision of this 15-minute city was you'll have, you can on an app call up and they can deliver like a kitchen appliance and it'll come and a drone will drop it off at your front porch. You'll use it for a few hours. You won't even own that appliance. And then when you're done, you'll put it out and the drone will come pick it up and take it away. They did a whole report on how this would work. The arrogance and conceit of these bureaucrats who think they can micromanage so that you never have to leave your 15 minute bubble. Beyond that, think about what's happening. There are whole calls against private car

ownership. Boris Johnson's transportation minister said owning a car outdated 20th century thinking. If you remember, Andrew Yang, who ran for the Democrat Party nomination, said owning a car is not necessary. That people should be able to just abolish private car ownership and call up an app and get a ride share if you need a car. Other things have called for if you need a truck, you can go to rent one. They want to go after private car ownership. Now tie that into what France just did, actual tangible evidence of a climate lockdown banning the two and a half hour flight. All of this is keeping you in place. They want to have a world where that seaside vacation,

that international trip is going to be a purview of only the super wealthy, like it was a hundred plus years ago, when only the wealthy could afford these luxuries. They're now imposing this upon the rest of us. And these 15 minute cities are frightening and they're gonna start out more liberal than you could imagine,

but then there's nothing to stop them from constricting, constricting. Remember, the income tax started out as, what, 1% and then continued to grow from there. So they're going to try to make it as harmless as possible when they start. But if once you concede the concept that you need to stay within 15 minutes to save the climate, you've conceded yourself to totalitarianism. That's my cherry note. Let me. Yeah, lovely.

I'm so excited. This is the great future I had in mind when I was working so hard all those years for my own kids. Let me take a couple of calls off the Twitter spaces if you guys don't mind. So crazy. You just sort of raise your hand there and then I'll bring you up and you make sure you unmute your mic once you're connected. I see a lot of you there listening. Hi, Josh, what's happening? Not much. So there's two things. One, I would say that it's sort of mind-boggling to think that

the climate doesn't have an effect. I feel like it does have to have an effect on us. And likewise, we have to have an effect on it. The second thing I will say is that it seems as though a lot of people are helping like your guests and trying to get people to focus on what's really important. I think that's true too, because a lot of people are very focused on climate, but they're not so focused on their own lives and how they might be falling behind and how they could do a lot better for themselves not to worry so much about the environment. And then the third thing I will say is how do we get to sort of an enlightened vision about all of this together? Because it seems to include COVID. And I feel like it's beyond politics.

And I feel like we really need to keep at it and keep going. And I feel like...'s beyond politics and I feel like we really need to keep at it and keep going. Um, and I feel like, yes, yes. I think we can find a solution. I think we can find a solution. Yeah, I think you're right. And I think staying positive, innovating, I think staying communal, uh, being free, sharing ideas, all, all the things that we have always done. What if you want to live in a 15-minute city? Then move to one. But let people who don't want to live somewhere else. Well, here's the thing. I'm saying all this.

It just seems silly. You don't have to believe me. Here's another person. First of all, I cite all mainstream sources, but Robert F. Kennedy Jr. I interviewed him at 2014 at the Climate March. He wanted to jail energy CEOs like the Koch brothers at The Hague for three square meals and a cop. He's an environmental lawyer. He he's been completely red pilled. He now says, I will not talk about climate during this campaign, run for president. He says that he now recognizes that the climate change issue is being used by COVID as a tool for totalitarianism by the United Nations, by the World Health Organization, by the World Economic Forum. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the man who wanted to jail energy CEOs and wanted to punish politicians for not believing, has now completely backed off. That is a significant issue. In fact, the campaign even reached out to me and wanted the full video of my interview with him from 2014, because I think people are stunned at this evolution, because to go from that, and he sees the exact same forces

of this. And I think, I don't want, I make sure before we end this interview, Dr. Drew, before it's over, I want to give you the positive news and how to fight back. But, but essentially, I think people are waking up across the world. And I think our biggest mistake as sort of COVID lockdown skeptics and climate, you know, skeptics, was not pushing, particularly in March of 2020. We kept waiting for people like, okay, people aren't going to put up with this. They're not going to, okay, this has gone too far. And we waited, waited, waited, and nothing really came. No one pushed back.

Next time, we have to push back immediately. We have to organize it. We have to start at day one. And that's what I think is needed. But the biggest thing I think we need, and I spend the last chapter of my book, The Great Reset, talking, we need emergency power reform. Because right now, and I think it was Dr. Marty McCary who said this, there's literally nothing that we've done since COVID, March of 2020, that would prevent them from doing it all over again. In fact, in many ways, you could argue they're accelerating it

if we sign on to this WHO pandemic treaty. So we need emergency power reform so that they can't bypass democracy. And of course, everything, I didn't get to talk about it, but ESG, environment, social governance, is a corporate collusion between government and the finance industry to basically force companies to go woke. And it's an incredible way to bypass democracy. But that is now being pushed back.

Many attorney generals are pushing back against it. The public outcries so much now that places like Vanguard are dropping this ESG, which is just anti-democratic. And it's now become toxic. And I think that whole pushback of the lockdowns and of the ESG and of the government power grabs, I think this is important. I just wish it would show up more in our elected officials.

Again, Capitol Hill is dead to these issues. Of course, presidential candidates like Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Vivek Ramaswamy, to a lesser extent, Ron DeSantis, although he was the model governor of Florida, we'll talk about it. Donald Trump, I'm conflicted on because he won't admit his role in empowering Fauci and being duped by Deborah Birx. I wish he would. I don't know that he's capable of it, but he needs to come clean and admit he should never have agreed to 10 days to flatten the curve. But hopefully these presidential candidates will propose that we can never allow this to happen again. It's not

enough that we just don't comply. We have to stop, change these laws so they can't declare an emergency and become, essentially, every mayor and governor became dictators overnight. Telling people to shelter. Our mayor was telling people to shelter in place. By the way,'s jfk's doing a speech right now rfk i mean rfk sorry um i i hate to like shoo everybody over there but i just want to let you know drew i don't know if you were i don't know where where is it is it on the caleb wait hang on a second caleb is that us uh yes that's that's that's what i've i was told by the booking producer is that we actually have him

booked for july 3rd so we have vivek ramaswamy on the show july 3rd so the day before the 4th july that is vivek ramaswamy we will discuss some of these very same issues maybe i'll get you to call in on twitter spaces uh mark to sort of pimp him a little bit about some of this stuff so yeah yeah would you want to do that maybe? Yeah, I would love to. Absolutely. And Vivek really gets the issue and he gets climate, he gets COVID. One other thing is when you look at someone like Mike Pence, and I'm not trying to single him out, but he had his autobiography come out this year. And there was a great analysis. I think it was Jeffrey Tucker who wrote an analysis of this book, but Mike Pence, and I've read all the relevant excerpts of this,

literally has no problems with the COVID lockdown. He praises Fauci. He brags about getting a collusion between 3M and the government to get masking everywhere. He brags about getting ventilators in hospitals, which later doctors had to stop because there was like a 70% death rate. And they, you know, they were, they were literally admitted to ventilating COVID patients because they, because then the person becomes a closed loop and can't spread it to the staff. So they were doing it to protect themselves, not patient care. But Mike Pence's book, which came out in 2023, seems completely oblivious to COVID and what it meant. And it's just incredible that there's still mainstream candidates out there, former vice president, who cannot get it and not even be on the same page and understand any of this. Jenny, you're muted. Go ahead. Thanks. My question is for Mark. Mark, I'm sorry,

I haven't read your book and I don't know much about you. This is my first introduction to you. But I'm curious, do you believe in climate change? And if you do, what do you think are the top three things that we can do to actually seriously address it? And let me pile on Jenny a little bit. Hang on, Mark, before you answer that also. Tell me what the absolute worst predictions are of climate change. I mean, what are the absolute, in terms of people

painting the most dire predictions, scientists, legitimate people, what are the most dire predictions about climate? So if you can answer her question in mind, that'd be great. Sure. The most dire predictions, the deadlines have already passed. You had in 1989, the UN warning that entire nations will be under the sea if we're not checking global warming. 1864, when Abraham Lincoln was president of the United States, a academic named George Marsh actually said that mankind faces climatic excess unless we change our ways. What they basically predict is, and they'll scare you, Al Gore's film will say, Antarctica melts,

Florida will be half underwater, and you get the graphic of Florida underwater. But here's the thing, okay, a simple way to explain this. Humans influence the climate. We influence it through the land use. We can influence it through carbon dioxide. We can also cool the climate. In the 1970s, I have a whole chapter in my book, Green Fraud, about how scientists were worried about... There was going to be a new ice age. I was an adolescent, and that's what we were obsessed with. It was on the cover of Time magazine.

There was going to be a new ice age, and we couldn't avoid it. So any of us that have lived through acid rain and predicted famine and predicted ice age... No, Susan, it was like 10 years. They predicted it everywhere. And you live through that stuff and you get a little skeptical every time another one comes around. But go ahead, Mark.

Actually, in fact, in the 1970s, they believed before fossil fuels caused global warming, fossil fuels caused global cooling. They believed our aerosols from our fossil fuel use were causing global dimming, blocking out the sun. And if you read from what Newsweek said, what papers and scientific journals, what NASA scientists said, they were blaming hurricanes, floods, tornadoes on man-made global cooling. They were warning about national conflict and wars increasing because of man-made global cooling. They wanted to put soot on the Arctic. And they also wanted a primitive Green New Deal.

They wanted wealth redistribution, sovereignty limiting treaties, reductions in free markets. I mean, it was all the same impulse of top-down central government control, concentration of power, and fewer and fewer hands. Well, to answer the question about climate, let's start with polar bears. Polar bears are disappearing, but only from Al Gore's books and movies. In 2006, Al Gore

featured the polar bear as the poster child of climate change. He had a sequel, 2017, no mention of climate change. Why did it disappear? Because polar bears are at or near historic population highs. They've never counted this many polar bears. So Al Gore, instead of addressing it, just ignored it. Now, if you look at the geologic history, I like to simplify this by saying the climate is governed by literally hundreds of factors. And I actually cite the climate activists admitting that.

And if you look at it, it's everything from tilt of the Earth's axis, water vapor, methane, clouds, volcanoes, and sun, and of course, methane, carbon dioxide. All of these factors interact. The idea that carbon dioxide is the control knob of the climate is where climate skeptics make their point, not whether CO2 can increase warming in the atmosphere, because you can have a warming of the atmosphere without a climate catastrophe. And that's where people lose. And when they talk about this 97%, it's scientists basically saying,

yes, CO2 can have a warming effect. Do you believe in global warming? It's meaningless. If you go back to like the Roman Republic about the year zero AD, temperatures are about at, or either have stayed the same or cooled. If you go to the medieval warm period from 900 AD to 1300 AD, temperature is about the same. If you look at

current temperatures, you hear the hottest year on record. If you compare those hottest years on record that they claim, it's within hundreds of degrees. It's within the margin of error of the data set. These are literally political statements. And in my books and in my reports, I actually quote the NASA scientists admitting how they're not that big of a deal, but the media runs with it to scare you that this is some unprecedented warming. It's like someone who's 6'1 and a fraction of an inch. If they're 6'1 and maybe a slight more fraction of an inch, you say they're at record height. This has never been measured before. So that's one thing. So here's the deal. I'm going to stop you and just say, we should have learned that from COVID. We saw what the press does with COVID. Now the curtain has been pulled. We see they use

panic and fear to run their business to get more viewers. But Jenny asked the question, what do you think we should do? Well, okay, one last point. Extreme weather, hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, wildfires, droughts, there's no trend on climate timescales 30, 50, 100 years or declining trends. This is actually mentioned in the UN reports. I actually mentioned the IPCC reports. To answer your question, and I have a whole chapter, the path forward is to innovate, improve efficiency, clean up the environment, and you need wealth, you need wealth and wealth creation, and you need free markets to really actually do that. If we actually face the climate emergency, the way forward would be the way we were doing it when we were leading the world in reducing CO2, which is innovation, technology, and

the wealthier societies have the cleaner environments. And we're the ones that can actually improve if you care about CO2. We're the ones that can actually reduce CO2, not by banning everything in the Western world and then saying, it's okay, we'll just buy from the Middle East or we'll beg Venezuela for the oil, or we'll get all the rare earth mining from China as Biden shuts down rare earth mining in the U.S. That makes no sense. We're doing the exact opposite of what we should be doing if you actually believed we face a climate emergency. Jenny, does that do it for you? Yeah, thank you.

OK, you guys. That was a mouthful. And let me. Wait, wait a second mark so you're not you're not actually you're not denying that climate change is real you're just like everything i've read about you list and says you're a climate change denier but it sounds like that you it's like being a vaccine denier the anti-vax right it's like being anti-vax it's all the nomenclature changes the word deniers is ridiculous. I mean, there's a guy named Roger Pilkey Jr. who they call a climate denier.

He's an extreme weather expert, University of Colorado. This guy says, I accept the premise with the United Nations reports. I think they're good reports. And they still call him a climate denier because he's a climate crisis denier. Just like you can be an anti-vaxxer

if you're an anti-vaccine mandate person. But I would also say, you know, personally, and from talking to the scientists, I did a report of 1,000 dissenting scientists back, the last one I did back in 2010, of 1,000 plus, and the scientists were basically saying, yeah, we can study CO2's effect on climate,

but there's all these other factors. And if you look at the geologic history of the Earth, we're in the 10% coldest period of Earth's geologic history. 90% of Earth's history has been warmer than today to the point where you couldn't have ice at either pole. And 90% of Earth's history has had much higher CO2 levels than we have today. So we're actually, one scientist that testified when I worked in the U.S. Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, Dr. Will Happer of Princeton testified that we're actually one scientist to testify when I worked in the U.S. Senate Environment and Public Works Committee. Dr. Will Happer of Princeton testified that we're currently in a CO2 famine, geologically speaking. So and NASA has even said increased CO2 is greening the earth.

Deserts are shrinking. And of course, the climate spin on that from the activists is, oh, we're going to have more poison ivy and more weeds and more invasive species. But the bottom line is crop yields are booming. And the only food threat we face from climate are the climate policies that are shutting down agricultural practices that have brought us high yield agriculture in favor of essentially net zero policies, which are going to shut down all the small farmers and turn it over to corporate agribusiness. And that's really what, that's the real shame of what they're trying to do in the Netherlands. It's all the small family one farms they're crushing in the name of climate. And all it means is you're going to create food shortages and you're going to have big corporate farms that can absorb these climate compliance costs take over. Same thing in airline, by the way, Bloomberg News, big article,

climate compliance costs are driving up the price of airline flights. And believe me, banning flights is going to drive up the flights too, like France is leading the way and the EU is going to follow. So climate compliance, once again, only big corporations can absorb those costs. This is a war on middle class. It's a war on working class. It's a war on small business. And it's all about essentially a corporate government collusion, which is where we're coming, because all these corporations will go along with the climate agenda because they know they can consolidate, increase their power, increase their profits. They have the best lobbyists. This is one reason

people say, oh, you're an evil oil-funded denier. No, ExxonMobil hates me. The ExxonMobil supports the UN-Paris Agreement. ExxonMobil supported carbon taxes. ExxonMobil's all in on all these things that I'm talking about. And they're in on all of it because A, they're an international company and they're not really pro-American.

And B, they know that the higher the costs go, only the big fish are gonna be able to absorb the costs. And this is as old as government regulation. And that's the biggest problem. COVID crushed small business, biggest transfer of wealth from poor and middle class to the wealthy, to the point where Gavin Newsom, California governor, bragged that California's economy was doing great because they had more millionaires than ever before as people were crushed, as the wealth transfer occurred and crushed during covid lockdown

they're just completely tone deaf yeah it it seems like the corporate government uh what do we call it enmeshment uh is something that vivek ramaswamy is pointing at and rfk jr is pointing at each withK Jr. is pointing at, each with a slightly different emphasis in terms of what they think the issue is. But consistently, that seems to be something that there's good evidence that that coziness is having untoward effect. The other thing, Caleb, about the environment, I mean, it would be weird if we didn't affect the environment, right?

I mean, of course, there's 5 billion of us. Of course, we're going to affect the environment. The question is, though, what can be done about it, number one. And then number two, where does this really go? What are we doing? Let's say this continues for a while. What are the most dire predictions? And I look for that all the time.

And even the most dire predictions don't sound that significant to me. And in fact, because I've been through the ice age predictions and the famine predictions and all that stuff, we always end up not really knowing where it's going and what I might do. And it might have net benefits. It might bring the rainforest back. It might increase food supplies. It might increase biodiversity. To only look at it as a negative, it makes no sense at all, really. That's the part I have trouble with, is we need to be more humble in the face of what this is or might be. Absolutely. And I testified in 2019, before a congressional hearing, on species extinction. And I testified next to the

Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore, who's now a climate skeptic and is now an environmentalist skeptic, I should say, too. And we were detailed how just the environmental progress and people like Bjorn Lomborg also show this and the way you can solve environmental problems. We know how to clean up air and water development infrastructure. And what's so perverse is you have places like Africa, one billion people with energy poverty, don't have running water, don't have electricity. And you have the World Bank following the climate agenda. You have Europe with their trade policies,

not allowing Africa to develop, limiting their financing and limiting their trade and ability to even build themselves up on their own because of the climate agenda. And they keep them poor, which then keeps them essentially poor environment with bad running water, with no running water, burning dung in their huts and polluted rivers. We need wealth and development. And you mentioned these predictions. You had Neil Ferguson predicting millions dead, exceeding the Spanish flu. You had Bill Gates saying it could be worse than that, 25 million.

The same thing happens in climate where they predict billions will die. You know, that Antarctica will be the only habitable continent, as one of the UK's top scientists said in 2004, because global warming is going to be so bad. I have a whole thing, if you want to go to slide 14, I was going to do is show you how the COVID climate how everything they talk about in COVID I learned hang on so hold on somebody on the restream

I just lost them because the stream comes by so fast I was saying it's not the it's not the temperature change it's the rate of increase of change and somehow I was equating it with the Permian die off uh you know jurassic era what do you say to that yeah there's all sorts of in fact bill nye the science guy walked up the rate of it they were talking about not the rate of increase of temperature they're

talking about the rate of increase in co2 there have been geologic episodes in the past where co2 has been increased uh at fast but here's the thing about carbon dioxide. It goes up and many of the scientists on the skeptical side will say, after we may have already seen all the warming we're going to get from climate change, the earth sort of has a homeostasis. It's gonna sort of sort itself out

that each additional layer of CO2, I think we're currently about 430 parts per million. Each additional layer has less of a warming effect as you go forward. And again, if you look at the geologic history, there's nothing to be alarmed by. But again, even if you were alarmed by it, all you'd have to do is say, how do you handle it? Do you want to be the freest, wealthiest, most innovative country in the world to handle it? Look at sea level rise in the Netherlands. They're not underwater. They were able to, using engineering, figure out dikes and figure out a whole way to keep the water at

bay for centuries now. You can adapt to a changing climate, be it man-made or natural. So if you look at all this, what they're really doing is, and ask this question, flip it around, what impact will this policy have on the climate? And you could ask that of the old Obama climate bills in the Senate, which never passed the Democrat Senate because the Democrats couldn't support it, especially people like Al Franken jumped off board because of what it would do to the Rust Belt states. And then you ask, what's the impact? What's the impact on global CO2? Not even on global warming, just what's the impact on global CO2? And you'll find that it's not even measurable. So everything they talk about as a solution is literally just making us poorer and

turning over more of our decisions to unelected bureaucrats to determine what's best for us, a la COVID lockdowns. And so is that, do we have those slides, Caleb, or did you catch that? It's slide 14. Are you there? Okay. There we go. So this, yeah, this was a book, 1985, All I Needed to Know I Learned in Kindergarten. Well, all I need to know about COVID I learned during the climate change debate. So go to the next one. Greta Thunberg wants you to panic. Boom, the next one.

In COVID, all they wanted you to do was panic. Actually, Bill Gates predicted 30 million dead. By the way, this is Forbes. This is Financial Times. Notice everything I'm presenting to you is mainstream corporate. I'm not giving you some secret sources or anything like that.

So the same template in COVID and climate, make a scary prediction. Tell people that giving you some secret sources or anything like that. So the same template in COVID and climate, make a scary prediction. Tell people that unless you do ABC, we're all going to die. Exact comparison. In the climate debate, billionaires bought the media. The Associated Press, NPR accepting millions of dollars from foundations to essentially do climate activist reporting. It's no longer journalism. Next one. In the COVID debate, billionaires bought the media. Bill Gates pumping tens of millions of dollars to media. Almost all the interviews he does is friendly media. The only time you'll see an off question and maybe if he's traveling and he gets an Australian journalist who's not on his payroll. Bill Gates bought the media on COVID. Pharmaceuticals

buy the media. You go to the next one. In UN, in climate, UN and governments are the single source of truth. UN actually declared this last fall. I was at the UN climate summit in Egypt, in Sharm el-Sheikh, Egypt. They actually said, quote, we own the science. The world should know it. We partnered with Google to ensure only UN climate results appear. Then next slide. In COVID, government said they were the single source of truth. Fauci himself said, I am the science. Science equals me. This is literally exact parallels. One more climate debate. Al Gore and Google track your every move. This just happened last fall. They're going to have

thousands of satellites with an Al Gore group and Google monitoring farms and factories so that the idea is they can then do regulations and fines and punishments. This is frightening stuff. But hey, go to the next slide. Big government tracked your every move. CDC was already tracking our cell phones. In Australia, they had the track and trace app where if you went to a grocery store, you'd be alerted later.

If you six hours later, you could have been near someone who tested positive for the virus. And then if you didn't self-isolate at home, they could force you into a government quarantine camp for weeks. So this is scary stuff. So anyway, that's all I can do. I'll stop there, but I keep going.

Yeah, that's the parallels. We will leave it at that. Yeah, the parallels are extraordinary. And COVID sort of, in weird ways, it sort of did us a favor. It sort of showed us some really serious problems in our system, not the least of which, as I said, evangelical physicians. And as you said, the extreme emergency authorities that they have, the abilities they have to cut right through the Constitution, frankly.

It's one of the weaknesses of our system that needs to be figured out. And I will bring all that up with Vivek Ramaswamy on July 3rd. Is July 3rd, is that correct, Caleb? Yes, that's correct. I think that's right. Okay. Mark, I want to thank you for coming in. I hope you'll come back when I talk to Vivek. I think it was a very interesting conversation. I think people learned a lot. And we have an audience that sort of is probably already in your camp. I remain just

sort of humbly neutral, just trying to figure things out as I always am. But a lot of my time is spent thinking, what's going on here? Why are we doing this? What is this all about? And as time goes on, that thinking around COVID turned out to be pretty much correct. And it also uncovered a lot of other aspects of our system that we had no idea was going on and again this uh this topic i think shows a lot of elements such as the world health organization and the davos group and people like that negotiating and planning things that are not necessarily things that people want somebody maybe some people do and i'd be interested in talking to those people but it's hard to understand how that could go anywhere but where it historically

has always gone, as opposed to the way it has always gone historically with innovation, which is to betterment for humanity. Mark, again, the book, let's put it up there. It is The Great Reset. Please get it. Read more about this. And you can follow Mark on Twitter at Climate Depot. Thank you, Mark. Appreciate at Climate Depot. Thank you, Mark. Appreciate you being here. Thank you, Dr. Drew. I appreciate it.

Enjoyed it. Thanks a lot. All right, man. And there's an upcoming guest here, Dick Russell with Dr. Victory tomorrow. Is that reusual time, Caleb? Tell me as I do 22nd and 33rd, then we'll do callers. John Bowden is in here.

He's the Massachusetts gentleman that did a lot of research on death certificates in a couple of other States as well. Tom Renz coming in on the 28th. He, uh, is going to tell us a little more about, um, whether or not the funding of gain of function was actually some sort of counter espionage operation. July 3rd, Vivek Ramaswamy and July 5 5th, Kat Lindley, again back with the Kelly Victory. Thank you, everybody. Caleb, Susan, thank you. It's been a very interesting,

difficult day. We've had a lot of stuff going on, technically. Get your bone broth in here, teeth whitening systems in here. Caleb is back from his vacation, and we will see you. And tomorrow is three o'clock, correct? Yes, that's correct. Because at one point in my schedule, it said noon. All right, we'll see you all tomorrow, three o'clock Pacific time. Ta-ta. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky.

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