Ask Dr. Drew - WHO Power Grab: Michele Bachmann & Brian O’Shea on “One Health” & Public Health Emergencies of International Concern – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 227

Episode Date: June 12, 2023

The World Health Organization appears to be attempting their largest power grab in history through a new treaty that places them in control over future “public health emergencies of international co...ncern (PHEIC).” What does this mean for personal and national sovereignty, and the medical decisions between you and your physician? Michele Bachmann (former Congresswoman) and Brian O’Shea (Centurion Intelligence Partners) will break down what the WHO is doing, how much they’ve accomplished, and our “two paths forward” to resist their alarming seizures of power. Michele Bachmann served as a United States Congresswoman representing Minnesota’s 6th District from 2007 to 2015 and was a founding member of the Tea Party Caucus. Currently, Ms. Bachmann is the Dean of the Robertson School of Government at Regent University. Brian O’Shea is an Intelligence Analyst, Private Investigator, and Chief Operating Officer at Centurion Intelligence Partners. After serving in the military for 11 years of active-duty service, Brian worked as a Senior Consultant and Subject Matter Expert for two of the US Government’s top intelligence agencies. Find him online at https://centurionintelligence.com/ and https://twitter.com/BrianOSheaSPI 「 SPONSORED BY 」 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew • BIRCH GOLD - Don’t let your savings lose value. You can own physical gold and silver in a tax-sheltered retirement account, and Birch Gold will help you do it. Claim your free, no obligation info kit from Birch Gold at https://birchgold.com/drew • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get an extra discount with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 The CDC states that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective, and reduce your risk of severe illness. You should always consult your personal physician before making any decisions about your health.  「 ABOUT the SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. 「 ABOUT DR. DREW 」 For over 30 years, Dr. Drew has answered questions and offered guidance to millions through popular shows like Celebrity Rehab (VH1), Dr. Drew On Call (HLN), Teen Mom OG (MTV), and the iconic radio show Loveline. Now, Dr. Drew is opening his phone lines to the world by streaming LIVE from his home studio. Watch all of Dr. Drew's latest shows at https://drdrew.tv Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well, it appears that some of our gravest concerns about the overreach of the public health world, particularly as it pertains to the World Health Organization, are about to come true. Michelle Bachman, Congressman Michelle Bachman, is here to discuss this with us today. Congressman Bachman is representing, of course, from 2007 to 2015, Minnesota's 6th District. She is now and currently the Dean of the Robertson School of Government at Regent University. We'll be later joined by Brian O'Shea, and he's obviously an intelligence analyst. He's a senior consultant and subject matter expert for two of the government's largest intelligence agencies. And you, of course, remember him from his previous visits here. He is the husband of our friend Naomi Wolf, and he has infected not just Naomi, but also Susan Pinsky with his concerns
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Starting point is 00:02:48 Sorry about that little echo I think we had in the intro there, but I stand by what I was saying. I'm delighted to welcome Michelle Bachman to the program. She served as U.S. Congresswoman representing Minnesota's 6th District 2007 to 2015. She is presently the Dean of the Robertson School of Government at Regent University, and she is gravely concerned about this new information as it pertains to the World Health Organization and the European Health Commissions. You can find out more about her thoughts at ExitTheWho, exitthewho.com, also stopO. dot com. Please welcome Dean Bachman. Thanks so much, Dr. Drew. Great to be with you today.
Starting point is 00:03:32 It is great to be with you as well. And thank you for your work on this issue. I thought I had maybe I have I'm naive, but I thought so much of the overreach of this pandemic was going to teach us something. There were people that were worried that the procedural overreach that so many of the public health community was engaged in, I thought alarmingly were saying that it was some sort of rehearsal for more. It was sort of tilling the soil and preparing the sheep for further herding of the flock. I thought that was an overstatement. I thought it was just a sort of panic and bad judgment, and we would learn from it.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Turns out I was wrong. Tell me what you're learning. Well, I wish you were right, but unfortunately, this power grab is being doubled down by the World Health Organization. Again, the United Nations Healthcare Arm is the World Health Organization. They meet once a year and change up their rules at the World Health Assembly. Last year, in 2022, the Biden administration was the lead on this. They had introduced 29 amendments, and they were hoping to get them passed, but it was a foundational shift
Starting point is 00:04:49 in the actual work of the WHO. It would turn them from being an advisory only body to being a regulatory and an enforcement body. That didn't happen last year, but that didn't stop the WHO from going forward. They went ahead and now this year at the most recently concluded World Health Assembly, there were 307 amendments that were introduced
Starting point is 00:05:14 and there was also a global pandemic treaty. The delegates and participants said that the plan is that they will merge the global pandemic treaty together with the 307 amendments. And essentially what the plan is, is to empower the World Health Organization to have decision-making authority over all 194 member nations. That includes the United States of America. during the three years under the pandemic, when the presidential administration took emergency powers to suspend our constitutional rights and liberties in many ways, they did it because of the recommendations of the WHO. Our government didn't have to do this, but they followed the WHO advisory as though it was law. Now the Biden administration is seeking to actually make it law, that the WHO
Starting point is 00:06:08 will have regulatory and enforcement authority. And it appears that's the direction this is going to go. What is motivating them to relinquish their sovereign authority? We're saying we're going to hand over, I don't even understand under what conditions, frankly, but we're going to, or this law is creating a circumstance where governments will hand over the sovereign authority of elected officials. What in the world would motivate elected officials to set up that kind of a paradigm?
Starting point is 00:06:45 Only insanity. For the life of me, I don't know why they would do it. Clearly, they're getting something out of it. I think promises are being made. Promises, I think, in some respects, that a lot of these nations that don't have great health care may have Americanized health care. I say that because several programs that were talked about were universal healthcare, which is essentially socialized medicine for the world. So a lot of
Starting point is 00:07:12 nations read that and think that means they'll have Americanized level of healthcare. Of course, that can never happen. There isn't that much money available. And so what we'll be seeing is a third worldization, if you will, of healthcare. But there's also another concept called One Health. And I think we'll be talking about that more. But much of what I saw that was discussed when I was recently in Geneva at the World Health Assembly is that the diagram showed that One Health means man, animals, the environment. And the criteria is that man isn't any more important in the decision-making than an animal, and certainly not more important in the environment. And so my shorthand expression is man equals cockroaches equals a lump of dirt.
Starting point is 00:08:00 And in the final analysis, it's climate change we learned at this World Health Assembly that's running everything. We had the head of environment from the World Health Organization actually say that they've been run by infectious diseases, as they should, COVID-19. But she said, we're no longer going to run by infectious diseases. Now we're going to switch. And climate change now will be forcing our decision-making. So if the criteria is that we don't want the temperature of the earth to rise more than 1.5 temperature, then lump of dirt equals cockroach equals human means that the lump of dirt will win every time in the decisions that are made.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And this is what's bizarre in the proposed amendments. Some of the amendments actually delete the words from the international health rules, human dignity, human freedom, civil liberties. As a matter of fact, the fellow who's in charge of passing the 307 amendments said these are great amendments, bold amendments, strong amendments. We can't operate in the next pandemic under the old international health rules. We have to have new international health rules because of this reason, Dr. Drew. He said that people had too many civil liberties in the last pandemic. And so we have to do away with civil liberties. This is
Starting point is 00:09:26 actually what they said. This is actually in the amendments. This is what people need to know. There wasn't one nation out of the 194 nations throughout the entire week, there wasn't one nation that ever registered any disagreement or challenged any of the proposed amendments or the global pandemic treaty. Everyone was on board. They were all like bobblehead dolls reading out the same script saying they all agreed with it. In fact, there was one African woman who stated, not only do we need to pass all of the amendments and pass the Global Health Treaty. But this fall, we need to have a simulation that we carry out based upon the amendments and based upon the Global Health Treaty. It's very clear that this will be in force and effect in less than one year,
Starting point is 00:10:20 unless some U.S. senators and congressmen finally wake up and take a look at what's going on and raise a ruckus or other nations do the same. This will be a done deal. They're already running to the finish line. And yesterday there was a press conference with the European Commission and the World Health Organization. And the announcement is that the World Health Organization will now run the digital passport that will track and trace and surveil all of European citizens. But this will be the model for the whole world. So the expectation is that all 194 nations will go into this digital passport, which will then be like on your phone with a QR code. And if the individual has fulfilled
Starting point is 00:11:07 the mandates that the World Health Organization acquires, then that person will be able to travel. And likewise, if they don't fulfill it, they won't be able to travel. And the World Health Organization will be the one calling the shots. So in some respects, you might say that creates a platform for global governance with the World Health Organization calling the shots through the enforcement mechanism of the global digital passport. If anybody's interested in some of the language that was taken out of these amendments that included things like civil liberty, I noticed that campbell did a video on this a couple of days ago he was really raising the alarm at these very issues but even his sense of things i don't think got quite how how concerning this is i when things seem so crazy i'll use that word i always feel like i must be missing something is there is there any am i missing something is there I missing something?
Starting point is 00:12:05 Is there something about what they're trying to achieve that would help me understand why they would do this? Is there something I could understand about the Biden administration to understand why they would? It does not feel like that administration to hand over their authority to an international body. What might I be missing? And yet they've been the lead on all of this for the last two years from a normal natural American sensibility none of this makes sense that the United States would want to do this much less that any other nation would want to do this I don't see that the United States gains I don't see that any other country gains. But clearly, there's an
Starting point is 00:12:45 effort for global management of citizens so that everyone is coming under the same umbrella. I guess in some respects, you would say that we saw this during COVID in that no one was allowed to disagree with the party line, so to speak, of the U.S. government and of corporations. It was really whatever the World Health Organization said. So it is a level of global uniformity, of compliance and control. That's what we're looking at. I don't think that President Biden necessarily understands what's going on, but someone behind him is behind this.
Starting point is 00:13:26 For people who love freedom, this is the worst possible thing that could happen. For people who like global control and who like to ensure that they can call the shots on all of our movements, they like this. This is very anti-American, you would say, but most of these countries are falling in line with it. Not most, all of them that I saw in Geneva. I don't get it. And so I think people need to wake up. I think a lot of times these documents are written in big gobbledygook kind of bureaucraties, but people need to take a serious look at this. There's a critical mass of people who have actually read these documents.
Starting point is 00:14:06 They know what they say. They aren't hidden. Go to who.int, click on where it says 76, World Health Assembly, click on the 307 amendments, the Global Pandemic Treaty, it's all there. In fact, the Global Pandemic Treaty calls for the creation of a policy board, a policy of the parties, it's called. And this particular board gives itself the power to continually rewrite all the
Starting point is 00:14:35 rules. So there's no need ever again for the World Health Assembly to meet because the small group of unelected elites will be able to call all the shots in the future. This is so profound in what it envisions. It's a complete denial of liberty and freedom for individuals on the planet, whereas just a few elites run it. But climate change will be the driver. John Kerry was there as the speaker on day two, and John Kerry said quite clearly
Starting point is 00:15:08 that climate change is the greatest problem that we have in healthcare. So we're gonna move away from infectious diseases. Climate change will be the motivation. And the director general of the World Health Organization, Dr. Tedros Ghebreyesus said the same thing. We are elevating climate change to our most important issue in WHO. And the director of the COP28, the next meeting of the next climate
Starting point is 00:15:35 change summit, he was there at the World Health Organization. And he said, for the first time at COP28, we will dedicate one entire day just to health care. So we're seeing the whole climate change agenda of the last 60 or 70 years merged with this empowerment of the WHO. And remember, Drew, once power is given away, once sovereignty is given away, it's almost impossible to get it back. And that's what caught my interest because I've been in government for decades and I'm now the dean of a government school. And this completely upends the United States Constitution and it completely undermines the Bill of Rights protections that every American has. If this goes through, we lose our Bill of Rights protections.
Starting point is 00:16:27 What do we need to do? Well, what we need to do right now is create a ruckus. And I'm thankful to be on your show. Every single person needs to call their two U.S. senators. They need to call their representative. And they need to tell them, you've got to wake up because our power and our freedom is being given away to the WHO by the Biden administration. Don't wait. You need to pull these documents of the amendments and the and the global pandemic treaty into your chamber and look at it. But actually, all you have to do is look at the press release yesterday from the European Commission and the World Health Organization. We're a member of the World Health Organization. The World Health Organization today in June of 2023, according to this press release, they are adopting Europe's digital passport, which means they're putting it into effect this month. There's
Starting point is 00:17:27 nothing to wait for. There's no more vote. They're putting it into effect. And so our senators and representatives need to say, hey, we better get the United States out of the WHO now. We need to get out now because they're planning that we will go into this global digital identity and passport. And then from there on, we will never be able to get on a plane again unless we have the approval of the WHO to get on a plane. This has far-reaching consequences. And we need our senators to wake up because I can assure you they're sleeping and the House members are sleeping. When I was in Geneva, there wasn't one member of Congress there, either from the House or from the Senate. There wasn't even the American press corps in Geneva. And these were the most consequential actions
Starting point is 00:18:17 being taken to cut off and undermine our freedoms as Americans. So people have got to call and get the attention of their senators and their congressmen. Now, I can assure you, neither Congress nor the Senate has any idea what's happening. Oh, my God. Congresswoman, I'd like to bring in Brian O'Shea, who's had grave concerns about these issues for quite some time. Brian is an intelligence expert and former officer. And Brian, are we overstating the problem? By the way, I noticed that a North Korean and a UK communist was put in the last week on the policy commission. Very interesting, but here we are. Have things been overstated? Quite the contrary. I believe that there's a lot more to it and it's a lot more planned out than a lot of people even know.
Starting point is 00:19:14 And I would say Michelle Bachman's done a great job in unpacking it and how it affects us immediately. But this is, I'll just jump right into it. I see One Health as the ultimate way to take over the governments of sovereign nations by whoever controls the WHO. Because One Health is the governance that everything operates under once a pandemic is called, once a global emergency is called, all of these nations, all of these public health agencies in these different nations adopt one health. Brian, in these materials,
Starting point is 00:19:58 do they define what constitutes a public health emergency? It seems to change with every speech because a public health emergency has grown into not just, uh, you know, uh, you know, a virus, it's a climate change as, as you correctly stated earlier. Um, it is, uh, finance. It's socioeconomic impacts of climate change. It pretty much covers everything that the HHS, Health and Human Services, covers. And I said that on purpose because the two of them, that is the agent for One Health and this pandemic treaty here in the United States would be HHS. So I, it all,
Starting point is 00:20:51 it all includes the potential. It also includes the potential of a health emergency. You don't even have to have one. It's just the potential that includes racism. Like Brian said, it's, it's so wide. The authority of the, of the head of the WHO, there are no limiting parameters.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Dean, how did you find out about this? How did you sort of learn that you needed to raise the alarm about it? Well, it's funny. It was about a year ago in April. I actually had COVID. I was in my apartment at the university and I was looking on the internet and I had seen some information about these amendments that the Biden administration was proposing. And it was very clear to me on its face, what was being
Starting point is 00:21:36 proposed essentially was a relinquishing of U.S. sovereignty over health care and ultimately the establishment of global governance through the WHO. Climate change people have tried to establish global governance for 60 years. They haven't been successful. They haven't convinced enough people. People didn't care. But now with WHO, after the COVID issue that we've dealt with for three years, the climate people saw how successful COVID was at controlling people's lives. And so now the climate people aren't willing to be on the sidelines. They are planning to come in in the middle of this World Health Organization because it has nothing to do with health. When I was in Geneva, I never heard anything about cures or medical or actual data. It was all propaganda. So it's all about control, taking power and authority away from governments and then concentrating that power in one
Starting point is 00:22:43 organization, the World Health Organization. So that's it. And it seemed like the delegates were mesmerized. They were all going along like the Stepford Wives. Nobody was registering any dissent. That's what was incredible. There's no agitation in the hallways. I rubbed shoulders with delegates in the hallways. There's no agitation. Nobody was upset. No fights. This was no deliberative body. This was meant to be a kabuki theater of agreement between the 194 nations. So unless there is dissent that's raised in these various countries, I mean, this is done. This will be a done deal. So, Brian, do you have any other suggestions other than calling our senators?
Starting point is 00:23:41 Yeah, I do, actually. I put out a sub-stack the other day that listed all of the One Health entities. So for-profits, non-profits, and different countries by agency. And it's astounding how many countries, how many counties, right, in our own country have One Health offices. The CDC established theirs in 2009. So my suggestion, my recommendation, heck, my call to arms, for lack of a better term, figuratively, is start calling your county health boards and make them, you know, basically clog their phones, having them explain what is One Health? Why is it here? Where's the vote on this make the this is infiltrating societies in my opinion at the ground level which is the best way to to take over any country start at the bottom work your way up so this is something that's at people's county health boards and if people start demanding answers what is this where'd it come from you know they they have to they're gonna you're gonna wear
Starting point is 00:24:43 down their, um, really their, their, their resources because it seems like they've slipped this in, um, over the last few decades, but they really, really upped the ante with COVID-19 pandemic. Um, but since 2018, they've had a new architecture and we do have to move fast because Biden made sure that there was a mention just a power grab for the for the uh climate concern people that's the whole story here oh i'm sorry brian that's for you that's. I apologize. Yeah, I'll tell you what I think is I think and it's looking more and more like this. I think this is part of unrestricted warfare by the CCP to take over our governments without firing a shot because we saw the vast powers that. Okay. Now we've launched into a different topic here. We've gone into a whole different zone here. All right. So let me do this. Let me do this. Well, somehow I thought we'd get here and I'm not surprised that we have arrived. And I know, Susan, it gratifies you greatly to be vindicated about these issues. Brian, you've gotten under her skin skin not just your wife's but my wife's too and so when she sees sinister work afoot she always anticipates the ccp and you talk to brian about this so i'm just let's do this uh let's take a let's take a little
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Starting point is 00:30:33 Government at Regent University. And Brian O'Shea, Intelligence Analyst. He is Senior Consultant and Subject Matter Expert for two of the U.S. government's top intelligence agencies. He is now the Chief Operating Officer at Centurion Intelligence Partners. Let's welcome our guest back. And Brian, I'll let you paint the picture for us, and I'll have Michelle respond on how the CCP is involved with all this. So the CCP is involved in this because the people who have set up One Health in the last 10 years. Now, understand that One Health was called One Medicine. It goes way back to the early part of the 20th century. You know, that animal health is connected and, you know, is a lot more innocent back then. Where the CCP is involved is, of course, there's a lot of members on the major
Starting point is 00:31:27 panel that kind of governs One Health. George Gao is one of the senior panel members. He was the Chinese CDC director equivalent. But there's other countries, to be fair. Now, where I really found the most horror, and this is kind of a breaking thing, I believe, I didn't break it, the China Daily did, but it was announced in the China Daily, and I'll get that link up, that I believe it's Singtao, if I'm pronouncing it right, university will be the headquarters and the main data center during global pandemics and global emergencies for the WHO right there in China. And I also want to state that the big part of One Health, which all seems to be fueled by findings in the PREDICT program, our old friend Peter Dajic, and also China PREDICT program where our old friend Peter Dajic, and also China PREDICT program, where they go out and surveil animal populations. But the key thing in One Health that we notice the most is surveillance. So how's the CCP involved? I can't find a way how they're not involved, if not running it. The final thing I'll say about that is every single country, except for us and a couple others, are part of the Belt and Road that have signed on to this guns a-blazing.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Dean Bachman, your response to that? I absolutely agree. Today at the World Health Organization, traditionally the United States has been the number one funder. Bill Gates and private entities have been very big funders. Communist China hasn't been the biggest funder, but it's like Communist China is the neck. And they're the ones at the WHO that turn the head of Dr. Tedros Ghebreyesus, the director general. Dr. Ghebreyesus, with all due respect, has been the toady for the communist
Starting point is 00:33:26 Chinese. Dr. Gibratius is a communist. He's a disgraced former official in Ethiopia. So he was perfect for the communist Chinese. He was installed as the director general for the first five-year term. He was just re-upped this last year for his second five-year term. So he's there to do the bidding of the communist Chinese at the WHO. They're having their way. Their system, as Brian well knows, is based upon a social credit score. Their own citizens are tracked and traced and surveilled. That's what this system that was, quote, developed at Brussels, you could know that the communist Chinese had their hand in it, this digital passport system that about 80 countries in Europe are a part of right now. Now the WHO is taking that on.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And that system, again, is all about data collection. The chief data collector of the world is communist China. So this data will go back to communist China, and they're the ones that will be calling the shots. And I agree. I think that's a very good way of putting it, that China, as we all know, has had this 100-year plan to be the hegemon in the world, to be the global leader. And I think they are just laughing their heads off at how fast they were able to proceed. They are years ahead of time. And it's because of the government that we have in America, both through prior administration and now through this administration.
Starting point is 00:34:58 My speculation, my opinion, I don't have evidence, but it sure looks to me, every department in the United States government looks as though it could be being run by the communist Chinese. No one could get things this wrong so consistently. It's impossible. It defies the odds. So if you would think that you allowed your enemy to essentially bring you down to a point of complete ineffectiveness and then put you in a situation of taking over not only your nation, but then globally with the WHO, it's incredible to me that the United States of America would be the nation that would be at the tip of the spear pushing to empower the WHO after the tragic, disastrous decisions and recommendations they made for the last three years. You would never double down and reward the WHO. That's what's happening. It's weird. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Amen. That's exactly where I opened this conversation. I must be American. I don't know. Or was American. I opened this conversation. I must be American. I don't, or was American. I don't know. What did you say during the break, Susan? I said, you knew it would be the CCP somewhere. She goes, it always is.
Starting point is 00:36:12 It always is. Anything that doesn't make sense. It has to be communism. And a couple of things. You mentioned the word empower a couple of times. How are they empowered to carry this out? Well, they're empowered by the fact that the United States is gifting to the World Health Organization, as are all other nations, the power to declare a public health emergency of international concern.
Starting point is 00:36:40 If they get to call the shots of an emergency, then they automatically become empowered. That triggers a number of levers of power. So again, we wouldn't have seen these unconstitutional actions taken place in the United States the last three years, but for emergency powers that were just recently lifted May 11th of 2023. That's what will happen. Now this level of emergency power, the Biden administration wants to gift to the WHO, but not just over the U.S., over all 194 member states. I just find it so odd that no other country raised their hand. I was in France during a part of the recent debacle, and the French youth were pushing back very hard. They were saying, look, you're making us get a passport for a vaccine you've told us we don't need.
Starting point is 00:37:37 That is the contrary to the founding principles of this republic. Anybody like that raising their hand is just lack of awareness that is causing the silence? If I may, I believe that's what it is. There's so much noise. And Dean Bachman, go ahead. I think you have a thought on that too. Okay. Well, I think most people have no clue what's going on. Just like I said, Congress doesn't know what's going on. Most people don't know what's going on, but it's obvious because the mainstream media isn't covering this. Social media isn't covering this. You've got to go to alternative information sites to even know what's going on. And I think it's telling that the US media wasn't in Geneva, Switzerland.
Starting point is 00:38:27 And somehow members of Congress find a way to get on a plane and go to the World Economic Forum meetings. They find a way to go to the Munich conference or any of another plethora of conferences. Nobody is at the World Health Assembly where they're voting on something, where they're discussing these issues. It's absolutely shameful, but it's all this nonsense. We have so much cacophony going on, so much news, you might say, but it's nonsense news. right now is the loss of global national sovereignty and yielding it over to an international agency like the WHO, which would be empowered to call the shots over every nation and over every individual on earth and forced through the global digital passport. It will change everyone's life immediately.
Starting point is 00:39:24 We know how this works because if you went to Europe or if you had the chance to be in Europe during the pandemic, you could not get on a subway in France. You could not even go to the market and buy food unless you had the correct QR code. That's what's going to be carried out globally now in less than a year. And as a matter of fact, as we said yesterday at the press conference, it's already here. It's just going to be the level of enforcement.
Starting point is 00:39:53 And I think this Belt and Road Initiative that Brian had mentioned, China already has laid down her influence across the world through the Belt and Road Initiative. Money talks. And these nations are deeply indebted to China. So you mean it's more important that we protect our national sovereignty as opposed to worry about what was in former President Trump's closet? I don't know what you're talking about, Congresswoman. You figured it out, Drew. I think we need to hear more.
Starting point is 00:40:23 You figured it out, Drew. I think we need to hear more. You figured it out. I need to hear more about papers that somebody saw, somebody say they heard there may be something in there. I need to hear more about that and less about me losing my civil liberties. But the other thing, let me. I get a little nervous just thinking like we're doing this because we're trying not to get into a war, a World War III or something. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:49 Like there's got to be a bigger reason to do something as asinine as this. Well, I think the case is being built. So let me say it this way. The case is being built. I hear you. I understand. I know that's where your head goes. But this is more about the climate change taking advantage of what they learned about what can
Starting point is 00:41:10 be done during covid the climate change activists and uh by the way you susan saw what happened in greece where people we were not just in france we were also in greece where people could not go to the grocery store without checking in with their government officials. And people were going hungry because they couldn't get out of their house. Yeah. And this is really about establishing global governance. That's the bottom line here, to be able to control every person through global governance. That's the end goal. People have no idea how close we are to that.
Starting point is 00:41:43 From my estimation, watching this issue and reading and observing, we're less than a year away from this. That's why people need to wake up. This is so sophisticated, so developed, so far down the road, and people don't understand the urgency to intervene. We have to intervene quickly. I had conversations with a wonderful U.S. senator, but the senator said, you know, this is way, way down on my priority list. My constituents aren't talking to me about it. And he said, for one thing, it's a treaty. All we have to do is pull it into the Senate. Nobody will accept this treaty. And even if it somehow goes through, the courts will reject it. I'm telling
Starting point is 00:42:25 you, that is not going to happen. Once you implement a system where you can't get on a plane, where you can't buy food unless you have a digital code, a QR code, you're not able to do life. These people are smart that are doing this global governance. They're running our lives through this surveillance, through the digital code. Our whole life will be run by a digital code. And we got to wake up to this. Our senators haven't figured out the paradigm that we're in right now. And I used to sit on the Intelligence Committee in the House of Representatives. We studied the espionage from China. The Chinese are very sophisticated. We need to understand where this is at. And I'm telling you, Congress is always the last to know. And sadly, that's the case here. I don't mean to denigrate any particular member of Congress.
Starting point is 00:43:18 They just have to wake up. So let me push back on both of you with what I know must be a thought bubble above somebody's head uh just to represent this point of view and i'll give you each a chance to respond so we heard chanted during the pandemic you know if one's not safe nobody's safe we've got to be more community-minded it's a good idea that we are more collectivized in our approach to health and that we worry about one another and this is a healthy move in a good direction that we should have made a long time ago. And it's worrying about our fellow citizen and fellow man. This is just a movement in that direction. And we should be balancing individual liberties against
Starting point is 00:43:57 the equity and quality of the well-being of the group. Congresswoman, what would you say to people that take that kind of an approach? Well, those kind of people are slaves. They become slaves in a minute because they somehow listen to the propaganda and think that the propaganda is reality. This propaganda only enslaves people. And we need to look at the reality of freedom. And once you give it up, it's gone. And we need to recognize that we're about to say sayonara to healthcare freedom. The greatest healthcare there ever was in the world is healthcare that came by free market practices. The best hospital in the United States is Mayo Clinic here in Minnesota, where I live. It's been a wonderful model for years. All of that changes. Healthcare is no longer available the way it once was because the money
Starting point is 00:44:52 won't be there anymore for cures, for innovations, for new medical practices. So we need freedom if we want good healthcare. That's truly looking out for your fellow man. Ryan? Well, everything you're describing sounds like the cultural revolution in China in the late 50s and 60s in China, where it's the group. We have to do everything as a group. The individual, you know, is going to undermine you. They're unsafe. They actually use the term conservatives in a lot of the historical texts about the Cultural Revolution. But it's more than that. It's communism, plain and simple. The collective, the individual doesn't matter,
Starting point is 00:45:38 the group matters. And that is not American. That's not democracy. You touched on something, Dean Bachman, that I really want to kind of just expand on a little. And that's this is more than just climate change. If you look at the CDC has their own website for One Health. This covers the environment. This covers how people make their food, grow their food. This covers transportation. This covers socioe their food. This covers transportation. This covers socioeconomic issues. This covers everything.
Starting point is 00:46:10 And so it's very important to see it as, I try to encourage people to prove their own theories wrong and look at things through another lens. I try to do that when I look at this. Of course, I'm looking at it through a non-medical lens. I try to do that when I look at this, of course, I'm looking at it through a non-medical lens. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a medical professional. But what I see is when I look at it through the lens of war, and I look at it through the lens of the stated goals of the Chinese Communist Party, what I see is they are covering the bases, controlling the food, controlling the fuel, controlling movement and transportation, controlling when you can go outside. And then this all culminates into something really, really chilling.
Starting point is 00:46:55 And that is, as China calls them, ecological cities. You might know them as 15-minute cities. You herd everyone into these urban areas to control them, and you do this because it's easy to track them. It's also easy to make sure they spend money on your stuff because as communist as the CCP claims to be, you lose points if you don't spend money at Chinese communist controlled businesses. So the other thing I would say is with that is it does all seem really intermeshed with getting people into these quads, these little cities where they're like this little weird community.
Starting point is 00:47:36 And there's a lot in there without stating it, but there is a lot in there about in these frameworks, One Health frameworks or architectures however they the different publications state them that are kind of talking about imminent domain so they're talking about for instance um having a you know the problem is humans expanding into wildlife territory where that's never happened. Then they have cartoons. The bats fly and they bite the humans and then we all die. And if only we had one health.
Starting point is 00:48:10 And so when I see that, I see eminent domain. And then I see it operationalizing now because I think COVID, the way they were reacting in COVID, the lockdowns, the masks, the snitch networks, which is, we saw that in Hong Kong, CCP loves their snitch networks. Part of the surveillance in One Health, especially if you look at Predict China and Predict, EcoHealth Alliance, World Bank, these are the architects alongside, at the behest, in my opinion, of the Chinese Communist Party. But when you look at what they're talking about, they're talking about surveillance, and we're going to go surveil the animals. The Chinese, you know, the Chinese publications on
Starting point is 00:48:57 this, they don't mince words. They're like, yeah, we got this guy, he's going to watch his neighbor, he's doing the practice wrong with his cows. So that's going to go right up to the Bureau and we're going to go take everything to keep everyone safe for public health. So the final thought that I'll say on that is, if you want to look at this playing out, and I had the unfortunate opportunity to see it play out in front of my eyes. Look at any of the ecological type of agencies in your state. 25 minutes down the road, we have the Cary Institute of Ecosystem Studies in Millbrook, New York. I started looking at that. In there were two people that caught my eye. Peter Hudson, who's a longtime collaborator of Peter Daszak's of EcoHealth Alliance, and Barbara Hahn. Now, you may recall all of these white-tailed deer getting COVID stories that just exploded
Starting point is 00:49:52 right around hunting season in 2021. At the core of all that science, for lack of a better term, was Barbara Hahn, her research. And within the EcoHealth Alliance and 10 total locations in the United States, you will find a project called, wait for it, Bat One Health. And at Bat One Health, it's batonehealth.org. It's pretty much the same type of language and research that you saw environmentally and ecosystem-wise around the Chinese Academy of Sciences, in particular with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, not the BSL-4 stuff, but doing the surveillance, going out into nature. And that's the EcoHealth, I mean, that's the Cary Institute of ecosystem studies and by the way when i went
Starting point is 00:50:45 down there go ahead i'm sorry i'm gonna sound like a congresswoman uh bogman a chance to to respond but i just saw something on rumble chat that caught my attention i thought ah this is how we'll motivate people remember when china had their their sort of fiat response to covid they killed everybody's pets they're going to take your pets if they need to and kill them if there's an issue that One Health perceives. They just, kill your pets. You have no rights. Just take your pets and kill them.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Maybe that will motivate Americans. Right. I don't know what's going to motivate them. But Michelle, I'll give you a chance to respond to that. And let me just, before you do, just say that, I don't know if you saw Henry Kissinger had a long interview in New York Times article about a week ago. And RFK Jr. it seemed to me echoed some of the same stuff I was hearing in Kissinger's article, which was, oh, we're overstating the risk of China. They really want sort of regional control. They don't want the world.
Starting point is 00:51:41 They certainly don't want war. And they can't compete with us economically. I know, Brian, you're wrinkling your nose. I understand. But this was in the rhetoric. And we really should be a little more collaborative. recently with the destroyer this last weekend. They're making their statements regarding Taiwan. They aren't interested in being a regional player. They are interested in being the player. part of what Brian was saying with One Health. We've seen a huge change when it comes to fuel, that we're seeing a diminution of fuel and we're seeing China-oriented fuel. My home state of Minnesota, this is the coldest state in the United States. And the Minnesota state legislature passed net zero for this state, five and a half million people. So they've outlawed coal, natural gas, nuclear power, hydropower, all of our safe, affordable, reliable forms of power. They're outlawing it within less than seven years. And what are Minnesotans allowed to use for energy to keep warm in January?
Starting point is 00:53:00 Solar. Wood. Which, by the way, you don't, no, no, they won't allow wood. So we don't get any sun in wintertime. So it's solar and the other one is wind. And my brother is a chemical engineer. He was talking to me and just laughing saying, it's impossible. You can't do enough solar and wind. But part of this is this idea of controlling population and controlling people through energy. We're seeing through net zero programs through Europe and here now in the United States with the embrace. This is a destruction of the energy grid.
Starting point is 00:53:35 It's a destruction of our American way of life. We won't have energy. But the other one that's concerning to me is food. We're seeing that in the Netherlands. The second largest producer of agriculture exports in the me is food. We're seeing that in the Netherlands, the second largest producer of agriculture exports in the world is Netherlands. And the Netherlands is being forced livestock producers to reduce their herds by 30%,
Starting point is 00:53:54 to reduce their grain production and food production by 30%. Well, what's that 30% of the population supposed to do for food? If there's no meat, if there's no grain. Now I was reading articles last week that the United States Ag Department is going to do the same thing here. So you have reliable, affordable, accessible sources of energy, but we can't use them. We're going to shut them down. And then we have all the agriculture that we could produce
Starting point is 00:54:24 here in America. We're blessed as a breadbasket, just like the Netherlands, but we're told artificially we have to reduce. There's something more afoot here. Part of that, it seems to me, is population reduction, that there's an attempt to have population reduction through very unpleasant means. So that should give people another motivation to wake up and realize their energy bills could double, triple, quadruple. They may not have it. They may not be able to live in their homes anymore. Food may not be readily available to people. These are serious consequences of what the people who are calling the shots are making.
Starting point is 00:55:09 And so we can't just presume that our government does right. This is one thing that shocked me when I served as a member of Congress. I was floored by how the people I represented automatically assumed that government had their best interests at heart. I want to assure the people who are watching today, government does not have your best interests at heart. They have their agenda at heart. And that's where, again, we don't live in 1950s America anymore. We have to wake up because things are changing so rapidly under our feet. We won't have food. We won't have fuel. We won't have freedoms. We won't have the health care that we've come to love and enjoy or the right to travel. And so that's why we got to wake up and start rattling the cage,
Starting point is 00:55:58 whether it's the local level, the state level or the national level, because we won't have a lot of opportunities for democracy left. That's what's dying here is our government and our way of life and democracy. The, and by design democracy is intended to be destroyed. Are you thinking of going back for a position in government? Not today. I've been there, done that.
Starting point is 00:56:29 And so I'm trying to have influence from a different perch. I understand. In terms of the population, controlling population, it seems like we're well down the road with excess deaths skyrocketing and birth rates plummeting. We are certainly along that road further than i would have ever imagined brian i think by design yeah well brian's wife feels the same way i've talked to her about this but i'll let brian respond
Starting point is 00:56:59 yeah um and we do we are seeing those reductions in population and it's happening. And on that note, I would say when you are looking at the possibility of anyone attacking this country, I always tell people, don't think like an American. Think like, how would I take out this country? How would I take them out? And one thing we do know, and I'll just use the Chinese Communist Party as an example, they fight on multiple levels and they're patient. We think in terms of four years, they think in terms of dynasties. So when you look at the way population could be reduced, I always encourage people, think beyond just
Starting point is 00:57:46 the immediate, like the empirical populations down. Think of the social message that's being put out there. Think of all of this need for healthcare, otherwise, I mean, daycare, all these pushes for daycare. In my opinion, that's a scare tactic to make people not have babies. When you see, you know, oh my God, they need to pass a bill or I won't be able to go to work if I have a kid. And it just seems that, you know, with so many issues, whether it's gender issues, all these, you know, birth control issues, They're all geared to create a society that is almost anti-baby. And so that's going to reduce the population. But beyond that, I'll say this as well. In a lot of the research that Naomi and many other people did on the vaccines,
Starting point is 00:58:40 it did seem to target the people that seem the most adversely affected by it, by these injections, were the fighting-aged men. And then the first people that were really forced to take this jab were the first responders, especially our military, our pilots, our special forces. And now, in a different note, they're cutting the budget for special forces, which is every foe's worst nightmare is our special forces. So I like to zoom out and see everything that's happening,
Starting point is 00:59:21 the transportation, the regulatory warfare, the lawfare, bio warfare, economic warfare, social warfare, creating TikTok, which is the digital fentanyl of the internet, as some have stated it, which is cultural warfare, where you're convincing people, these young people, to A, get addicted to this thing. So they're pretty much worthless all day because they're doing that all day. So they're not making a living. They're not learning anything. And they're learning to hate America. And at the same time, just like the Chinese Communist Party loves to do, they're erasing history. They're trying to erase history. I'll say this as just a quick note. Barely anyone below a certain age in China has ever even heard of or thinks it is a conspiracy theory, that major event of the
Starting point is 01:00:15 Tiananmen Square Massacre. And you see that happening here more and more. So I always encourage people, look beyond even just One Health. One Health is just part of it. But look at our transportation. All of our trains are made by CRRC in Springfield, Massachusetts for the T, the Boston T, the Philadelphia subway, the BART system in California. CRRC in Springfield, Massachusetts
Starting point is 01:00:43 is a wholly owned Chinese company making our transit cars for our metros. Well, at least Massachusetts has transportation in California. We cannot we cannot provide any government function. There's no transportation, no water, no roads, no electricity, no nothing. They cannot do anything in this state. So I commend you for having trains. I'm sorry that it's being produced by the Chinese government. Our natural gas tripled during the coldest winter we've had in California in 10 years. And I couldn't believe it. And my girlfriend said that her husband works for something and he noticed that it was owned by the Chinese
Starting point is 01:01:30 and you've just sort of verified that for me. Susie, any questions for these guys? So now I get it. I know you don't hear this, but what I hear is Susan behind the commuter here going, yes, of course, it's always there. No, they're going to go anywhere they can. If this were a peanut gallery, it would be extraordinary.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Make us all figure out what to do. But it might be too late, like she said. Caleb, go ahead. Caleb? Yeah, I have a quick question for Brian. So you mentioned TikTok as I totally understand how that fits in with the, I guess, the subversive nature of it on American society and getting into our youth. Where do you think that apps like Timu or what's that other, Shein, it's China-based e-commerce sites that have very, very inexpensive clothing,
Starting point is 01:02:12 lots of options that people are obsessed over over here. Do you think that fits in anywhere with the same stuff with TikTok? And what's the reason behind that? I see on Michelle's face the same thing that's in my mind, which is, I need to know about this. What are we talking about here?
Starting point is 01:02:27 She's addicted to it. I would be. So go ahead, Brian. I think they're kind of, I mean, not similar in the sense that TikTok is videos and it's drawing people in the way Twitter draws people in. People spend hours on Twitter. I've done it myself. But when I look at the sites you've mentioned, it took me a second. Then I was like, oh, yeah, those are those pop ups that I end up getting sucked into. And I think what those do is they're filling this impulse to spend. And you think it's like tapas. You think you're getting a good deal, but then you buy 50 of them
Starting point is 01:02:59 and you're broke because they have a lot of cool stuff on there it's like cool gadget stuff but you know you're draining people's resources a lot of people are unemployed despite what the biden administration is reporting um unemployment is rampant and people are just spending their money so if you drain resources you make people depend more on the government and when you depend on the government you're controllable and that's what our enemies seek and they seem to already control our government so we just need to bring in all of those people in those pesky counties and those pesky towns that kind of do their own community thing um and i am being sarcastic because i think they don't want a a red dawn Dawn type situation to quote that movie. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Something that I, you've been, Oh, sorry. Something that I noticed with Timu specifically, like I don't use it, but my wife has, has shopped on there before without knowing any of this stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:56 And the first thing I noticed when she showed me the screen was that there's an aspect of it where they have, it's almost like built into Timu. You can go in and play games inside of there and earn deals. So it's these predatory type mobile games that I'm sure you've seen before that they're very gamified. They have all these coins and these things you can win. And it really is just mostly driven to make you buy in-app purchases.
Starting point is 01:04:17 They've built that into apps like Timu to keep people involved in every possible aspect of their lives. They go from gaming in the app to purchasing. Makes sense. And it seems very, very reminiscent of stuff like TikTok where it gets very addictive. It does indeed. Guys, Congresswoman, you've been very kind with your time,
Starting point is 01:04:39 and I don't want to abuse it. I'll let you sort of... Going down the rabbit hole. Yeah, we've covered a lot of territory, and I want to give you a chance to kind of wrap things up, and I will let Dean Bachman go, and Brian, after I've done so, I'll let you final comments as well. Well, just regarding China, China has a very different view,
Starting point is 01:05:01 has a very different iteration of TikTok for their own teenagers. It's education oriented. It isn't filthy, sexually suggestive, like the TikTok that's in the United States. This also would be a form of warfare against our youth. And they certainly have targeted our youth. And that's where I think we as adults, those who have been blessed to live in this country and understand what freedom is, we need to understand what's at stake. Every generation has a test. This is ours. And right now we are pushing up against the precipice. Most people don't realize how close we are to losing our freedom. And that's actually the genius of what's happening right now, because we are all literally walking asleep and not knowing what's happening. But we need to understand what's
Starting point is 01:05:52 happening with the WHO. And by whatever means necessary, we need to pull our freedom back. We can't go crazy. People can't grab their guns and go in the streets, but we do need to exercise our voice with democracy. And we should also not go into the system that they're creating for us. If everybody refuses to go into the system, the system won't work. Yeah, I would hope that what we just had gone through with COVID would teach people something. If we were having this conversation in 2017, I wouldn't really have fully gotten it. I would have thought we were overstating things. They would never do that.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Have we not just learned that they will do it for the most capricious of reasons and they will do it in a punitive, destructive, ill-considered way without any concern for the consequences and God help you if you run afoul of it. It's who.int for the documents we've been talking about, and then exitthewho or stopthewho.com for Michelle Bachman and her work there. And you can see, I believe, your testimony in Geneva or at least talking about that.
Starting point is 01:06:57 And I thank you so much for spending some time with us and alerting us to this emergency. Thank you so much for having me on, Dr. Drew. Really appreciate being on with your wonderful guests today. It's just been great. Likewise. Thank you, Dean Bachman. I will let Dean Bachman go, and I will give Brian a chance to sort of ring us out.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Scare us a little more. And give Susan a chance to thump on you a little bit because i know she always has questions i was watching the the comments on rumble and everybody was like holy hell yeah what are we doing what are we doing what are we doing as uh dean bachman was saying but brian go ahead well i i would say this when someone like me or so many people like Frank Gaffney and Gordon Chang, really Robert Spalding, these amazing academics and experts on the modern People's Republic of China and the Chinese Communist Party in particular, when they are saying we are at war, I recommend people at least try to prove them wrong. You kind of want to know, like, why are they saying that?
Starting point is 01:08:12 So what I would say is this. In 1999, unrestricted warfare was written. And one of the key quotes, and I'm going to paraphrase, was that the god of war has changed his face. You have to change, we have to change the way we view warfare to see warfare. And one of the first rules of unrestricted warfare, which seems to be the guiding principles, if not doctrine, of the Chinese Communist Party, but then one of the rules is everything's a battlefield, and everything is a battlefield and you know everything is a battlefield and basically um you know you have to follow you know they you you can't you don't have to fight wars kinetically
Starting point is 01:08:56 everything's a battlefield and they're marching forward on that so um that's what i'd recommend don't look for the kinetic war. Yeah, you have taught us that. And as I said, you've gotten under Susan's skin. Susan, do you have any questions for Brian before I let him go? Well, he mentioned asymmetrical warfare, right? Which is just basically a very sneaky way of doing things. You learned that from Naomi.
Starting point is 01:09:22 That's where you heard that term first. Is that where I learned it? And I don't know. I mean, I just want to figure out, like, how do we get more involved? How do we get our listeners more involved? How do we make some noise? Can we, Caleb, can we put like a little link up or something? My concern is that you need to make it easy these days. Well, everybody needs to share this recording with somebody they know and,
Starting point is 01:09:47 and make them listen to it. And we need to, we need to like go out there and, and, you know, say what's going on, you know, maybe get it out in the news more and talk about it a bit more.
Starting point is 01:09:59 I think there'd be a lot of dismissiveness. Like, Oh, it's overstated. They really don't want that. It's just, they're trying to have a more collective system so they can respond more efficiently when there's a pandemic.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I think we're going to hear a lot of that kind of thing. Caleb? Yeah, no, I think a lot of that, when people are dismissive of it, it's they're thinking about the Chinese people and not wanting to put all the blame on the actual people there. They're not able to separate. We're trying to separate the government versus people. I don't think you have to blame i don't think you have to blame the chinese communist party so much
Starting point is 01:10:28 as just look at the facts right i i first saw the facts through john campbell's video i suggest if you want to see a really a walk through the data that's at uh who.int john campbell does it it was like last week he brought it in and it was alarming. And he, in his, you know, sardonic British way, he just would look up after reading these incredible things, just kind of look at the camera and like, what do you think I'm thinking? I also think, Drew, specifically because this isn't stuff that's able to get into the larger news networks, I think that you are doing a big job here just by bringing awareness this may be the first time that a lot of people ever hear of this because it's not being broadcast anywhere else i didn't i didn't know the full extent of
Starting point is 01:11:14 this i i thought i thought there was something coming and i just i i saw it but again we'll try to put up some link where would that be a doctor.com caleb something like that yes yeah if they go to show links or drdrew.com 662023 so it's dr.com 662023 that will have all of the links from this episode and i'm going to add more after the show but it has some of brian's links as well they're already there and stuff but stuff that we can click through on to alert you know county officials and our senators and all the things that these guys have been suggesting we do? Oh, yeah. I'm going to, I'm going to add that because I have links to some of the stuff that they
Starting point is 01:11:47 said before. So it'll all be there. Okay, great. Great. Susan, a last thing for Brian, you, you're always have questions from when he's around us. Well, I was thinking, I, you know, I don't really follow the news very well that I leave that all to Drew, but I know that Elon Musk was going over to, to open his business in
Starting point is 01:12:04 China and he got turned on his heels. I brought it up. I leave that all to Drew. But I know that Elon Musk was going over to open his business in China. And he got turned on his heels. I brought it up. I know you were busy working on Instagram a minute ago. But he, no, he didn't turn on his heels. He was talking with RFK Jr. yesterday. And RFK Jr. said, it's ridiculous that we are, you know, so acrimonious with China. We should be more collaborative.
Starting point is 01:12:21 They don't have, you know, they have one-fifth the military and, you know, one one, one, the economy and they're no threat to us. And they want regional hegemony, not, not international. This was RFK's position, which is fine. I know, I know, I know you bristle at that, but that was his position. I think that's going to be his undoing, frankly, in terms of running for president. But, but, but Elon Musk was with him and just sort of, he didn't say he didn't push back. That's for sure. And he sort of kind of agreed like, yeah, well, I was there yesterday and I have lots of colleagues over there.
Starting point is 01:12:53 He was just sort of co-signing the, the, the business as usual sort of attitude. Brian, what do you say? Well, let me first start by saying, I've, I've, I've met RFK Jinger on several occasions. He's a really, really good guy and I like a lot of what he says and the work he's done. I applaud. Me too. Absolutely. Yep.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Why he said that about China, I can't really guess. I have my thoughts, but I'll flesh those out at another time. But look, I will say this. Obviously, Elon Musk has business interests in China, so he's not going to say anything about us being at war with them. And look, surprise and surprise and deceiving the sky, as the Chinese like to say, or being meek until while your enemy is strong. The longer you can stay undercover of darkness, the closer you can get to your enemy or as Chinese military history shows us, the more you can encircle your enemy at every level. So of course you don't want to alert the enemy to the fact that they're at war with you.
Starting point is 01:14:02 I will say this, what can people do? And that's really what I'm focused on a lot lately is actionable intelligence. Go to your local town meetings, check the agenda, see what kind of special use zoning permits are being proposed. And if it looks off, it is off because that's how anyone gets into the community,
Starting point is 01:14:27 especially the Chinese Communist Party is at the lowest level. And if you block the land acquisition and use, you're really cutting off a major thing. I always say to people what my commander used to say to me, all the research that people are doing is great, you know, better than not doing it. But our, in special forces, if you came to the commander and you said, hey, Bill Gates is doing this, he'd say, okay, so what? And so what the real thing that I'm hoping people will do more, because everyone's done great work, but now it's time to make actionable intelligence, is to, we have to focus on all the sectors. People need to play some zone defense, as I say in American football, and turn that into zone offense. Right now what happens is the news cycle comes out and everyone chases that, and everyone chases that.
Starting point is 01:15:19 I know Bill Gates is doing bad things. I can't do anything about that. But what I can do, I can do something about what's happening in my local community just by going and voicing my discontent with a special use permit, a new business coming into town. And I'm saying do your research. Don't just, you know, anyone that has yellow and red in their branding, of course, they're not the Chinese Communist Party unless they are. But I would say get involved at the local level because that's how they fight. You could focus on those things, but make these strategic and global type of intelligence research projects, make those more of a pet project. You have to see what's in front of you so it doesn't bite you, because that's the thing that's going to hit you first is the thing that's right in front of you uh brian i we live in a community of about 90 percent chinese people here in pasadena it's not about chinese people yeah it's it's more about the chinese like do not confuse that let's make it
Starting point is 01:16:19 but i don't know here i don't oh you're talking more of the chinese americans you're talking about the government chinese communist in the united states i am always talking about the ccp and i would actually say they there was a great third year anniversary but how do you know i'm not saying i'm like how do you see that that's what i'm saying in a in a in a place like here's a great example like you know we just did this we just did this oh god sorry. Nope you. Okay so we just um we just attended a town board meeting recently and it's not necessarily you're going to block everyone you know of Chinese descent that's not what I'm talking about. What it was was this strange business that was trying to move into a residential area. And these had nothing to do with the Chinese Communist Party, but it was more of the,
Starting point is 01:17:12 how do I say, the culture of what was trying to move into this very rural, kind of quiet town in the middle of a residential area. And the citizens came and blocked it because they said hey we already have a ton of traffic where you have kids playing you want to move in these things that don't seem to make sense and it's kind of weird and there's other things going on at this farm that we don't really like we don't want it in our community people have every right to say that and I would urge people don't you know don't see something Chinese say we got to say that. And I would urge people don't, you know, don't see something Chinese and say, we got to block that. That's not what I'm talking about. But if it's wrong for your community, yeah, if it's wrong for your community, block it. The point is getting
Starting point is 01:17:55 involved and being aware because it starts with something innocuous and then it grows into something else. And if it goes against the culture, it's trying to change your culture of your local community. I get it. You want to keep it out. Brian, where should we find you? Oh my God. Well, you can find me on Twitter
Starting point is 01:18:17 at Brian O'Shea SPI at getter at Brian O'Shea and then on sub stack. And, um, it is a bright, it's a sub stack. I'll get the link up. I'm sorry. Um, but I do have a sub stack account and, um, I'm also on YouTube. I put up a lot of the videos of the surveillance I do.
Starting point is 01:18:38 I got some carry Institute stuff up there and I'm actually now a contributor with my wife's company daily dailycloud.io. And you can find a lot of my work right there at dailycloud.io. So I'd encourage everyone to get to dailycloud and also check out their communities function where you can kind of get your local people together. And whether you're looking at Pfizer documents or you're looking to get a community organization that investigates nefarious businesses, do it all at dailycloud.io. So that's where you can find me. And I'll always respond to DMs too if they're serious.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Reasonable, serious. Yeah, well, thank you so much, Brian. We always appreciate you coming by and challenging us and raising awareness about things that seem very important. I hope the audience likes it. Thank you for having me. It's brianoshea.substack.com. Caleb just put it up there on the screen.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Thank you. So embarrassing. I love you. I just love your knowledge, and I think that it's just so important that we stay on this subject matter at hand. And I love the Pinskys. I love you both. Yeah, I mean, it's just we can talk about COVID until the cows come home, you know, this subject matter at hand and everybody's head into it. Yeah. I mean, it's just, we can talk about COVID until the cows come home, you know, but I
Starting point is 01:19:50 just, I'm worried about the future of this country. Well, we will leave it at that. Those are kind of profound words. And I think Brian is too. And we have lots of really great guests coming up. We have Dr. Asim Malhotra in here tomorrow. He's the cardiologist that has been ringing this alarm about the vaccine for quite some time. really great guest coming up. We have Dr. Asim Mahatra in here tomorrow. He's the cardiologist that has been ringing this alarm about the vaccine for quite some time.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Jay Bhattacharya comes back. He, to me, is the poster child for the excesses and the cancellations during the COVID pandemic. Lionel comes back. Dr. Joe Latipo, the Surgeon General from the state of Florida, one of my favorite people, and hear what his updated thoughts are. Mark Morano.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Tom Rents, the attorney, is coming back on June 28th to talk to us about EcoHealth Alliance. And, well, we're going to push him on whether or not he really meant that they are, in fact, a counter-espionage operation, because that's the only sense I could make of why we would fund something like that. And he said, stand by. So we'll see if there's an update on that. So it's tomorrow at 3 o'clock Pacific time with Dr. Kelly Victory. Thank you all for being here. We'll see you then. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky. As a reminder, the discussions
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