Ask Dr. Drew - Wikipedia Recession Edits, COVID Kids, AI For Medicine & Your Calls – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 107

Episode Date: August 8, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, welcome to a special Friday program. We are going to be just taking calls and me making comment on things. It looked like I rolled right out of bed, which essentially is what I happened. I worked out. Susan, you got to tell me when I look quite this disheveled. But we are, of course, we're out there on Twitter spaces. And of course, as always, I'll be watching you at the Rumble Rants and at the Restream. But we want your calls today. That's all we're going to do. We're going to dedicate it to you. I've got some- Your questions.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Your questions. Not your calls. We don't have calls. What's the difference? Requests. Oh, but in order to be asking your question, you've got to request here at the Twitter spaces. I'm watching and I'll call you up to the podium. And when you come up to be a speaker, you'll be streaming out on multiple platforms. And Leopold's here. Leopold, I see you there, right there on my list. I see a lot of you.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Josh is here, Alana's here. Yeah, everyone's here. And let's get to a little conversation. I'm gonna, I've got, first up, Alana, I would love to talk about what we were just emailing back and forth about. So raise your hand, we'll talk a little bit about that. Let's get to it.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Our laws as it pertains to substances are draconian and bizarre. A psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying. You go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I the hell you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment
Starting point is 00:01:25 before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals. Let's just deal with what's real. We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time. Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat. If you have trouble, you can't stop and you want help stopping, I can help.
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Starting point is 00:02:55 So I thought this would be interesting if we sort of went into, just for a couple minutes, what you and I were talking about via email. Yeah. I'll give you a chance to kind of frame it. So, well, it started, I was with a really good friend for dinner last night, and she has a medical background and was showing me this article, and what we both sort of took out of it, and we're reading more of the commentary,
Starting point is 00:03:20 was that vitamin D is not useful. So this is a New England Journal article that I actually had seen and didn't know quite what to make of it, but you pushed my face to the mirror a little bit and made me take a little closer look at it. And the reason I want to talk about it is it illustrates how careful you have to be in reading medical literature and concluding anything in the process of science. Yeah. The best science asks very narrow questions. And in an ideal world, you're doing what's called a null hypothesis. You're actually testing that what you think is true is not true.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And then you do a statistical analysis to show that, well, it not being true is highly improbable. Therefore, it must be true. That's science. And you have to ask lots and lots and lots of very narrow questions before you really understand what the science tells you. And then in medicine, you have to apply it. You have to see it in the real world.
Starting point is 00:04:29 So what did I say back to you? I thought you explained it very well. And you said that it was looking specifically at just elder adults and fractures and didn't look at, I mean, I thought I should pull up the email. So I'll tell you what I said. It was, they took women that weren't selected for low bone mass. So already anybody who already had a need for vitamin D sort of taken out of the equation. So, and then not only not with low bone mass, we get very aggressive, these Dray, with treating low bone mass to prevent fractures. And we use a parathyroid hormone, and we used osteoclast inhibitors, reclast, and you've heard these in Prolia and these medicines.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Yes. And the vitamin D demands go up sometimes when you need these things, or you want to push the osteoblast while you're paralyzing the osteoclast. And so that is a totally different question than does a middle-aged woman have less risk of fracture on vitamin D? You know what I didn't look at? How long did they go for?
Starting point is 00:05:38 How long was the study? Seems to me to answer a question like that, it would have to be like 10 years. And I'm sure it was more like 18 months, right? Yeah, I think it was short. I liked the sample size that they had. Yep. A good sample size. It's not a bad question. It's a good question. And it adds to our understanding of where vitamin D should be deployed optimally. But it also, you know, I think people are aware that there's immune benefit to vitamin D. There may be lower cancer risk with vitamin D. In fact, in the prostate cancer world, I think vitamin D was the only thing ever shown to
Starting point is 00:06:11 reduce the risk of, and this may be totally spurious, and there was one study that might reduce the risk of prostate cancer becoming metastatic. So I take vitamin D because there's this observation out there. But I just appreciate you asking the question. I just wanted to throw this out there for people. So they stop, because in this world now where everybody's an expert in infectious diseases, it makes me insane that one study becomes axiom. For instance, a lot of, Kelly Victory brought up a really interesting study that I still,
Starting point is 00:06:44 I literally think about in the middle of the night, which was that study that's showing that hepatocytes, liver cells, have some sort of an obscure reverse transcriptase, meaning this is something that viruses have to be able to turn RNA to DNA so they can be replicated. And apparently, I thought mammal cells and human cells did not have that. But this one study showed that maybe it does. So I don't know what to make of that one study. Have you seen that study? Did you look at it after we talked? I have not looked at that. I'd be curious on your thoughts. All right, I've got lots of calls to get to, so thank you for playing along here. Yeah, and just so you know, I did, I followed your directions and sent it off to my endocrinologist of what should I do. And please tell her to be critical of what I said. I'd be curious to get the feedback.
Starting point is 00:07:34 That also is how science is done, okay? Okay. All right. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you. All righty. There we go.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Let's get to it. This is Michelle, and it's spelled come on francais michelle michelle hi how are you good how are you i'm doing well thank you for taking my call i really appreciate all you do in the social media network to keep people posted on information. My question is in regard to post COVID. I'm 57, generally very healthy, came through perfectly. I'm very happy about all of that, but I've noticed my brain fog. Oh yeah, good times. Yeah, I don't know. And I'm getting concerned. I had a grandmother with Alzheimer's. My mother did not, but how do you differentiate? So how long ago were you sick?
Starting point is 00:08:29 July 4th. Oh, yeah. You kind of should have brain fog still. Even when it's mild illness, you can still get brain fog for six weeks. Easy. No problem. So you kind of should have that. I see no evidence yet, again, don't know, that this leads to any sort of progressive problem. Now, 10 years down the line, who knows? And essentially, I'm trying to think
Starting point is 00:08:56 if it's been actually every case, but very nearly every case I've seen, the fog lifts. And I've seen fog from the vaccine too. It's not exclusively, it's something about the spike protein and the, the vascular injury that it causes the lining of the arteries. Personally, I had fog for like three months and may I tell you my own personal protocol, how I, how I dealt with it?
Starting point is 00:09:18 Yes. Yes. I took fluvoxamine and fluvoxamine helped with the fatigue and the ringing in my ears immediately uh it was rather rather striking so you can talk to your doctor about fluvoxamine i think i took 50 milligrams twice a day i might have taken 100 twice a day but it's an interesting point did you see that study out recently that became again ridiculous headlines that it turns out antidepressants don't raise serotonin. They don't have, they're not, yeah, no shit. We know that it's a very protean effect on the brain.
Starting point is 00:09:52 And one of the effects is on the, I think it's the sigma-1 receptor, which is an anti-inflammatory. And Prozac and fluvoxamine have very powerful anti-inflammatory effects on the brain, which is why they seem to work, particularly fluvoxamine, very powerful anti-inflammatory effects on the brain which is why they seem to work particularly fluvoxamine seems to work for for covid now the other thing i did and i really think this is what i would recommend to you just friend to friend i started studying language i started working on languages and it really really helped i just had this sense that music or language or dance i have literally had the sense that all any of those three i don't know why i just had the sense that if i worked out in that part of my brain i would i would clear and i did rather quickly um i've
Starting point is 00:10:38 heard you talk about that with adam yeah and i've been working on my spanish i've taken up the ukulele just for fun good Good. To try to get some. Should I be nervous about that fluvoxamine? I don't know why I am, but I am. Well, you know, look, any medication you should be nervous about. Let's be clear. And if you clear with some of these other, you know, exercise, walking, pushing yourself, all those things, sleeping right, you know, do those things first for sure. You know, there are weird withdrawal syndromes from SSRIs and there are weird suppressions of sexual functioning that can be persistent.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I've not seen any of that with the people that have taken fluvoxamine for a short period of time for this issue. Well, I would give anything for the sexual piece to be a part of my life, but that's a topic for another day. Uh-oh. No, no, no, no, no. She's 57 and divorced and never chose to get into a relationship while I was raising kids. So, again, topic for another day. Well, I'll just say that perimenopause is under attended to women. And Susan, do you want to ring in on this?
Starting point is 00:11:48 She's going in for pellets in about an hour, right? Aren't you? Oh, I am. Today's big pellet day. I have a girlfriend doing the same thing. She swears by it. I'm a two-time cancer survivor, so I can't. So all that perimenopause shit is so real and we're not talking enough about it.
Starting point is 00:12:03 For cancer patients. We need to figure out something else. If talking enough about it. Oh, I'm so sorry. Oh, for cancer patients. We need to figure out something else for cancer patients. If you listen to me and Adam, I think this was last week. Was it me and Adam? But there's some show I was on over Corolla. This woman called in was having desperation around the side effects of the hormone blocks. I mean, she was so miserable. And I was like, God, this is – I mean, the men get miserable too from the –
Starting point is 00:12:23 essentially the medicines that block their testosterone production for prostate cancer. I live in dread that that would ever have to happen to me. I'm sorry. Anyway. You really have to listen to your doctor about that or get into a really good hormone specialist. Because some hormone specialists, I mean, some people say that it helps, but isn't that what doctors— Yes, he does, but you listen to your oncologist. Right, you do.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Yeah, and what they have suggested and allowed me to do is an insertable estrogen vaginally. What about testosterone? That would be the one that really, really makes people feel better. Yeah, I don't have bad testosterone levels either. Mine are good. Those are good. It's just, at least that's, yeah, yeah. But still, and I wondered if testosterone would help
Starting point is 00:13:13 with some of this post-COVID stuff too, which is why I'm bringing it up. Did you go to an actual hormone specialist or just? No, I have not. You know what? I live in rural Kansas and it is hard to find those people that aren't five or six hours away. And I'm a professional. I work 90 hours a week.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Oh, Michelle. And I need to take the time. Oh, my goodness. Well, I wonder if you can do it all virtually now with telemedicine. You know, you're right. That's how I treated my COVID or didn't treat because they wouldn't do anything for me. But I do have access to the flaboxamine, and I'm going to give that some serious consideration. And you know that. Go ahead, you know. No, I was just going to say that rural piece of everything I listen to, you all talk about, I listen to several of your suggested podcasts. It is not easy to get access for any, and I consider myself quite
Starting point is 00:13:59 privileged to be able to take advantage of those things. And it's still difficult, but virtual is a great idea. Um, Hmm. I thought we were doing better at that. Is that, and that's sort of, I need to, I need to hear more. I think it just depends on, first of all, 57, I'm not afraid of technology. Right. Some people my age and older are, I mean, for my mother, when she was in her 80s, hey, mom, let's get on a virtual call with the doctor. No way. No way. So I think a lot of it just depends on how comfortable you are in that world. Okay. All right. And speaking of languages, isn't the spelling of your name, the male spelling for Michelle in French? So I tell people it was the 60ies and my parents were on drugs, which is not true.
Starting point is 00:14:48 There's a whole story about how I came to be called that spelled that way. But it was normal until I was 18 and went to get a driver's license. By normal, I mean C-A-G-L-L-E. Mom didn't like how differently the way it is spelled now, she put it on my birth certificate. So she just changed it and never changed my birth certificate. Isn't it a French spelling? Isn't that what that is?
Starting point is 00:15:07 It is a little bit. But I think she was just really looking for phonetics. Michelle. I don't know. She would have no. Yeah. I don't know. It's a great story, though.
Starting point is 00:15:15 I know. Oh, my God. The 60s. It's really the 70s. 60s, everyone was just out of it. 70s is when they did their horrible things. Maybe everybody says this, but those were the days. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I never thought we'd get near it again, but here we are. I know. Thank you all. Thanks so much. You bet. Bye-bye. Thank you. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:34 This is written. I'm going to get – uh-oh. Written. What happened here? Let's get that up here. It's weird. Sometimes, Caleb, when I push on the invite to speak, they go back into the audience as a listener,
Starting point is 00:15:51 and I don't know why that is. There she is. I don't know who it is. It's also a little egg. No, I know, but it's weird. It happens when I – Hi there, Riton. No, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I had to depart because my kids were being bad. Okay. What's going on? My kids were fighting over a stick, and I had to depart because my kids were being bad. Okay. What's going on? My kids were fighting over a stick and I had to break it up. Sorry. Got it. Are you giving them sticks again? I know. Are they puppies? Absolutely. They love them.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I'll put them in a crate and everything. It's wonderful. What's going on? Whatever works. What's up? I'm actually calling because a friend recently revealed to me she was having a problem went to the doc had surgery she had a cyst removed from around her ovary and they looked inside it and it had teeth and hair yeah this wonderful friend of mine is so convinced she had a twin no it's just a teratoma those are really common those are really common there is such a thing as as a you know a conjoined
Starting point is 00:16:52 twin kind of thing or a twin that migrated somewhere but this is just a cyst this is a dermoid it's called a dermoid it's called a dermoid cyst it's a it's a germ cell cyst so it has it's pluripotent and it to grow abnormally, but it still has that potential to differentiate into any cell type. So you'll get teeth and bone and eyeballs and all kinds of things, everything. Oh, God, eyeballs. She just had teeth and hair, and she was like, you're not going to believe it. I think I had another person growing inside me. I'm like, well, this isn't the first time.
Starting point is 00:17:23 She's like, no, no, no, no, no. You don't mean the devil. You mean not just a devil, but yes, okay. Yeah, but all right. I will let her know. Thank you so much. Just look up dermoid cysts. They're very, very, very, very common.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Oh, I'm sure that'll be fun. Thank you so much. Bye. Oh, my goodness. Ethan. Let's get Ethan up up here whoops all right hold on ethan there we go uh ethan go right ahead there uh hey dr drew hey man uh so i've i've got a a non-med question. I was just hoping to get your opinion. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:18 So as you may have heard, the Biden administration, they sort of recently changed the definition of an economic recession. So it was two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth. And now it's sort of like a broader, more intricate definition of economic decline. And given your role in the rational revolution, keep your mind tight. So here's your mom's house. Thank you. Hi, mommy. Yes, sir. So it's funny. I saw that all happening. And you know what the most disturbing part about it was for me? Is that Wikipedia, and I tweeted about this today, and Elon, I think, I don't know if it was Elon Musk or somebody else pointed it out. Wikipedia changed their definition of recession and then locked the Wikipedia page. And that was disturbing to me because I don't claim to be someone that should be involved in determining the definitions of economic terminology, but I would like
Starting point is 00:19:15 to be able to go somewhere where people are allowed freely to express their, their consensus and the fact that Wikipedia locked it, it i was shocked i was really shocking to me wikipedia is bad enough with all the bullshit that ends up on there and but for me you know again when you're the object of these things you realize how far off they go but okay at least it's you know it's it's a it's a you know what do you what do you call where there's a platform where everybody goes a um crowdsourced open space kind of thing crowdsource exactly open space crowdsource source and uh but now we have a definition changed midstream and i saw i saw somebody tell a joke yesterday or the day before um and again i'm
Starting point is 00:19:59 i'm a moderate i'm independent i have no horse in the Republican or Democrat race. But I thought this was funny that somebody tweeted, what do Democrats fear most? And the answer was a dictionary. And I thought, wow, that's very interesting because that's so much of what's going on. And then I saw a quote from George Orwell that I almost retweeted, but I didn't because I didn't want the trouble. But it was, I almost want to read it if I can find it quickly, but I doubt I'll be able to. But in any event, he was just saying how the changing names and changing meanings of everything from his perspective in the name of the party, which is know george orwellian stuff um he was warning about that and let's see if i can quickly find it so did that okay did i did i do the rational revolution uh adequate oh yeah okay all right
Starting point is 00:20:59 i appreciate the call thanks yes sir thank you you bet uh okay give me now you're all going to sit here while i quickly through if i can find that quote because it always drives me crazy when i'm going to reference something and i can't find it doesn't look like i'm going to be able to it was on the sort of the general stream and oh yeah by the way susan do you know that barbara ferrer did not impose the mask mandate? I heard she had some pushback. Like reality was knocking on the door everywhere and reality was saying, hello. It's nice to know that we can override her kingdom now. Well, but I'm sorry, but there's worse news ahead, which she's talking about closing schools down again, which is even more disgusting and more awful and more insane.
Starting point is 00:21:47 What is wrong with her? That's right. What is wrong with her is the question. She's buying the communist plot. No, she's not. She's not a clinician. She's not even a scientist. She's a sociologist. People can't keep saying she's a social worker. I don't believe that's true. She's a socialist worker. I think she's a sociologist. A sociologist. No, and I don't think she, and I just don't think she knows how to, and then she feels somehow
Starting point is 00:22:08 above the consensus of her peers. I know, everybody's like, no, we don't, we're not going to do that. Yes, we are. Yeah, I'm going to do it. I'm responsible to blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay. I wonder what she does at night. She's so weird.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Maybe she's, we ought to look for her and what we do in the shadows. Maybe that, maybe that's what she does look for her and what we do in the shadows maybe that maybe that's what she does at night maybe that's where she goes humbly kidding joke joke i know but she makes so much money and i heard that she's not a point she you can't are you doing your nails yeah we could hear that loud and clear i heard that i heard that she isn't voted in that she's appointed she's appointed that's right what does that mean i don't get it board of directors appoints her and they can also undirect her which is what uh why are they well because they have uh it's only uh katherine barger and and forgetting the other one's name
Starting point is 00:23:07 that might be willing to do that. The other three aren't willing to allow that. So it's a democracy there. Is that the same board that got you kicked off the homeless thing? Yeah, same board. Oh, yeah. Well, we know how that works.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah. They're cowards. It's like a popularity contest. They're cowards. No, it's not even popularity because they don't worry about the populace. They worry about the loud extremes that show up in their boardroom
Starting point is 00:23:29 whom they should never, ever be listening to. Yeah, I've been on a board of directorship panel. Yeah, yeah, but this is different. And I know how that works. Everybody's careful about everything, changing the status quo. It's very organized, small groups. They're small groups of people that are very organized.
Starting point is 00:23:50 You can always find a group of 500 people who can get onto any topic and they can go crazy on social media and make their group seem like they have 500,000 because they're being very loud. It doesn't mean that they're right, but it's- And it's only a party of five. Right. Social media makes it seem like it's so much bigger
Starting point is 00:24:08 and then politicians especially become afraid that they're going to lose their jobs when really they're just going to lose the 500 votes from those loud people. Yes, that's exactly right. And problems don't get solved. Well, I'm not finding the quote I was looking for. I call it a dictatorship of boredom.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Well, they're not finding the quote I was looking for. I call it a dictatorship of boredom. Well, they're not very bored. Well, COVID was probably the most exciting thing that's ever happened to them. Getting the power. Could be. All right, let me go to some calls again. Sorry about that. I know. Don't bring me into this.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Yes, let's go. Molly, what's going on there? Hi, Molly. Hey, how are you? I'm good. what's going on there? Hi, Molly. Hey, how are you? I'm good. What's going on? Good. I had two things, but I'll start with one if I may. Um, I had a question. I have, I'm a teacher and a parent of teenagers and we have, you know, through the years, come across friends that have teenage kids that just, they're off. They're using marijuana is what the parents are saying.
Starting point is 00:25:15 But they are, it doesn't, the behavior doesn't seem like what I used to know as marijuana behavior. Yeah, because the potency is so, so extreme right now that it is having massive neurobiological effects and developmental effects. Like psychosis. We've seen that too. They're literally crazy. We've seen that for sure.
Starting point is 00:25:36 And the idea that, oh, they're just smoking pot. At least they're telling us that's all bullshit. That's all bullshit. You're trying to protect a developing brain. What they do as an adult on them but in adolescence you have to have a zero tolerance for everything because it it look all the there's alcohol right which i would argue you should have zero tolerance on because every adverse health outcome you can name you find find alcohol, whether it's a pregnancy, a fight, an accident, an STD, a fall, anything. You always find alcohol.
Starting point is 00:26:13 And now we have cannabis and the other drugs which affect development and affect the emotional systems and have real serious effect on adolescent brains. No, it's no. There's no like, oh, we're the cool parents. No, no, you're sacrificing your kids development and um you know i'm not saying you necessarily can't control all of it but it's not it may not be a parenting problem there may be a mental health issue and you should treat it accordingly right of course okay that was yeah i was just curious like obviously it's a stronger stronger thing stronger, and we are seeing more addictive behaviors,
Starting point is 00:26:48 and we're seeing more of these mood problems and more thinking problems where kids get really kind of paranoid and wild in their thinking. And I'm sure I would too if I took some of those. Dabbing seems to be the threshold issue. Yeah. So if you're using dabs and wax and all that stuff, which is essentially the crack of weed,'re gonna you're into you're into different territory okay got it all right okay one quick question also do you know if
Starting point is 00:27:12 there's any studies going on with the kids that were out of school on from kovat and then back in like I would love to see a long-term study of how those kids there's a lot of people looking at that uh there's reports galore as you can imagine about the mental health consequences it all looks bad now but but by the same token people are wondering are they going to be is it going to resolve is it going to get better what's the time course going to be and so yes there are people looking at it as a a teacher, I've noticed just, I did a lot of, the whole, you know, the whole areas. We've done a lot of social, emotional things with the kids every day. And they're just, half the time we're like, these kids are like animals that just got released from the zoo.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I have elementary kids and I love them. But I'm like, oh my gosh gosh these kids are just they just got released into the wild yeah just I it's crazy I felt like that when my kids I had triplets so I was taking care of them for three years on my own and they were animals they were animals yeah went to preschool and they just suddenly had a conscience. And they suddenly were under control because they had professionals helping them get through their day, not just me. And I was so grateful. But if I had to take care of them until they were six or eight, they'd be exactly like they were when they were four. Because I just don't have the capacity you know no we were we were to this day i have like i get emotional when i think
Starting point is 00:28:46 about the teachers that were involved in our kids under age 10 really and uh the gratitude we feel for what you do oh my god i'm grateful all the way along so grateful that back then we were like we were in desperate straits but you're getting handed you're getting handed two or three years of kids that were in isolation. Yeah, it's crazy. I can't imagine. That would be a tough age. Academically and emotionally, just definitely behind. We're trying to catch them up as quickly as we can.
Starting point is 00:29:19 What's your instinct? What are you observing? Do you think we're going to get there at some point, or are we going to leave a certain percentage behind because of this? I don't know. I hate to say that. I think that the ones that went through it, they're just going to keep getting pushed forward. And, you know, they may have some spots, you know, some empty learning spots that we're just going to keep pushing them forward. Like I said, they are, the districts are implementing a lot of social emotional stuff. So I spent so much time doing that more than, you know, the basic reading, writing, arithmetic.
Starting point is 00:29:58 So, yeah, I think we're just going to keep going. And those kids that were in that little window of COVID are going to get pushed through, and then we'll just keep working with the ones that keep coming up. We'll see. Nothing ever happens. We'll see. I don't know. I would probably send my kids to summer school instead of camp every year. I would just do year-round schooling until they start catching up.
Starting point is 00:30:20 That's a good idea. Yeah. But if you're going to be competitive, you know what I mean? When they get to high school, if they they want to go to fancy colleges they're going to have to do that but i mean maybe they should just hold off on going to college in a year until they get what they you know what i mean or make it easier on them in the it's hard to know it's hard to know how we're gonna how we're gonna operationalize this i mean i know like my boys had reading disabilities and i had to take them to tutors and have their brains reprogrammed
Starting point is 00:30:48 and then they had to go through all these training programs alone without, you know, if they were being homeschooled, it would be the worst because I had to take them to people, you know, because Douglas had that brain surgery when he was a baby and Jordan just had reading disabilities. He was at the top of the class in math, but he couldn't read. And in the first grade, you know, I had to go to all these different tutors and psychologists just for that because they were triplets, I guess.
Starting point is 00:31:17 But I can't imagine not having those resources during COVID. I don't know what I would do. Well, thanks, Molly. I appreciate it. You bet. Take care. Bye. All right. We've got more calls coming up. I see you guys all there with your hands up. We will try to get to them. Take a little break first. I think we have found the holy grail of skincare. GenuCell has absolutely changed certainly my skincare regimen. I like that vitamin C serum, the under eye creams, skin nourishing primer. Susan loves the eyelash enhancers, uses it on her eyebrows as well.
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Starting point is 00:32:50 Go to GenuCell.com and enter code DREW for 10% off. That is G-E-N-U-C-E-L.com and the code is D-R-E-W. Susan, any follow on to that? Well, I do love the eye creams yes you do but you know i was we yesterday caleb was saying that he gets he gets zits on his face and he hasn't had him ever since he's using the skin reddening anti-reddening cream his wife unfortunately yeah but she doesn't get to pick at him you have a hard time with using any creams yes i have to because you use so much retinol on your face, retin-A. No, I have a problem because I use retinol because I have adult acne.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Yeah, but after that, your skin gets really red. And using that cream seems to work on your skin and lessens the redness. And the eye stuff, too. I like that. Yeah. So I've been doing that. And it works in 24 hours. It's great.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Yep. There you go. So thank you for supporting that, supporting us. They have these cool packages, too, that you can go on the website and then put your skin type in, and they'll tell you which packages work. So we're going to have our own package on there. Oh, cool. Caleb, once again, I can't get on Rumble for some reason. Are you on the rants, Susan?
Starting point is 00:34:01 I am. Anything going on over there? Okay. Jahep isn't here. Anything going on? rants, Susan? I am. Anything going on over there? Okay. Anything going on? Yeah. He's not stirring it up over there. Oh, Jahep just made it. What do you know? Yeah, we have a few people
Starting point is 00:34:15 over there. Any questions over there? I can't quite see it. We need some questions from the ranties. From the ranties? Rumble ranties. Ranters, I got it. Let's see. Okay, so let's go to the calls again. One of the ranties. Rumble ranties. Ranters. I got it. Let's see. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:29 So let's go to the calls again. Here we go. Diane was over there. Metta. Metta. Stan's come up here. Metta. Hey, Dr. Drew.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Hey there. How are you doing? Good. I used to listen to you when I was like 17. Now I'm 44 on KROG. That's crazy. This is the first time we speak. I have a question. How can you, like, I work in artificial intelligence,
Starting point is 00:34:56 and I'm trying to basically build models that provide better health care, but I'm not a doctor. And I want to do this all on crypto and globally. Is that against the law? Crypto and globally. I mean, you can't do anything even across state lines in this country, let alone across country boundaries. But is it against the law to use artificial intelligence to provide advice to people, even though it's not?
Starting point is 00:35:28 As one, I see what you're saying. If you couch it as informational only and educational, you're fine. But if you're, as one, you know, I go to other states sometimes and I do things. And I always check in with their boards of medical quality assurance and whatnot to make sure i'm not running afoul of their state licensing and the one thing they always tell me is said okay you're a physician you're doing you have medical knowledge you're coming to our state you're telling somebody to do something you need a life you need a license and you are practicing medicine in our state period end and now now covet changed that a little bit because we were able to do the telemedicine stuff across state lines, but they've closed that down again a little bit.
Starting point is 00:36:14 So states seem very unwilling to open this all up. I don't know why. So specifically, I'm looking at radiology images, x-rays, things like that. And it could help society immensely, you know, but I don't want to. Well, so you what you should what seems to me makes sense is if you had an AI that could give like a second opinion, it makes you may have to go you may have to go to every state to get the approval for that that you're gonna need a lot a big legal team to deal with this medicine is encumbered all every what you can't even imagine the encumbrances legally for every everything you try to do uh but you get the right legal team and they could figure that out sounds like something i i know that uh radiologists themselves are looking forward
Starting point is 00:37:05 to this kind of thing. So there's stuff. I mean, I'm sure you can, you'll figure it out. Let's put it that way. It sounds like it has great utility and I strongly support you in just moving things forward. This is a Cobra. Thank you, Matt. I appreciate that. Cobra. You've got to unmute your mic. There's a microphone in the lower left-hand corner. You've got to... Hey, man. Hey, Dr. Drew. This is incredible talking to you.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I can't believe it. I listen to old love lines all the time. Oof. Oof. From Giovanni, his collection? Yes, exactly. What is that like? Tell me what motivates you to do that?
Starting point is 00:37:51 What's that like? It's so of its time. It's interesting to me that people listen to that stuff. You know, I've listened to it for years, you know, and it's like a touchstone for me. Like, I remember what Loveline episode I've listened to it for years, you know, like, and it just, it's like a touchstone for me. Like, I remember what Loveline episode I was listening to right before I moved to California to join the Border Patrol. You know, like, it's, I just, I love listening to it. And I mean, Adam and you are just, you're great and it's entertaining.
Starting point is 00:38:19 And I mean, the calls, I can listen to the same show and, you know, still be entertained because you don't really remember exactly what everybody was asking. Right, right. And great, too. Interesting. It's so funny. I found some old Levine tapes in the garage. Like, I don't know, we were cleaning out the garage and I found like a pile of these, you know, tapes that Druitz had in the back of his car and ended up in my garage. And I called Giovanni and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:38:48 hey, Giovanni, I just found this, this, this, and this. And he goes, oh my God, send them to me. So I ship them to him and he puts them all on a hard drive and he uploads them. I mean, this is his passion. So you have to give him a shout out for all the hard work. Giovanni, thank you. For free.
Starting point is 00:39:04 You know, we appreciate what you're doing. Your audience, they're your audience that you're building there. They really appreciate it. I wish, he should have had like a, you know, some kind of a GoFundMe or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Poor Giovanni, he seems like a tortured soul too, you know. He's just had so much bad luck. I know, it's true.
Starting point is 00:39:23 He's had an interesting life. It's true, but he loves his work. He loves doing that for us. And I'm really happy that the radio station didn't give us crap about it. Yeah, yeah. Because we never, I mean, we could have turned those into podcasts in the olden days. We could still do that, actually, if we want to. Yeah, I don't know how that would work.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I just have to get, it's all on a hard drive. We have all this audio. It's Giovanni's. I have the hard drive in our office. He did a lot of work on it. Let him be the beneficiary. Yeah. So what's going on?
Starting point is 00:39:57 Well, I, you know, in the vein of like Loveline, I kind of had a relationship question. I just wanted to bounce it off of you to see what your thoughts were because just circumstances happened to where I moved from where I was living in California out to Arizona. And my parents were living in Lake Havasu. Well, my dad and my stepmom, they were living in Lake Havasu. Well, my dad and my stepmom, they were living in Lake Havasu and they moved out of there and they were living with me for a little while. And eventually we bought this house in Arizona. Well, I bought the house and they're living with me. They kind of moved in with me and the girlfriend that i had had big problems with that oh sorry it's cursing um and uh i just wondered what your thoughts on that were because she was like
Starting point is 00:40:53 really had issues with it it's you know i i don't know even you can't let's see where should we start with this? A lot of people have trouble with our life scripts. That's sort of the way you would, and our values. And if your values and your scripts don't line up, it's hard to compromise because those are very deeply held beliefs. So evidently in your belief system and your values, bringing your parents in, bringing multiple generations in,
Starting point is 00:41:29 is something you value deeply. And for her, it gives her no regard other than it's a pain in the ass for her. She can't navigate in her home, essentially. She's encumbered in her house. And one of the ways to deal with that is to make sure that they're kind of separate living environments. But if you can't do that there there's not i don't know how you would compromise that right because people that don't want to live around somebody's parents really don't want to live around somebody's parents susan what would happen if i brought my parents in
Starting point is 00:41:58 to uh let's say a dolly burn when we were in a little house for many years. Living with us? Oy vey. How would that have been? Oh, no. No. That would have been difficult. How about if you started saying you wanted your dad to come live with us? He would never do that in a million years. But we did talk about him living in the pool house for a while, remember? But that's, again, that's a separate living space.
Starting point is 00:42:20 And it made me nervous. Yeah. But that's here, not at Hollyburn. Yeah. What does she say? What is her sort of position? I mean, listen mean listen i mean these have been hard times for everybody and during covid we really learned how to connect as a family so maybe it would be different now i don't know cobra what what um what does she say about this what's her position well you know it's obviously
Starting point is 00:42:41 a lot of drama and um what happened that really sort of was the thing that, you know, because she would come over here and she would hang out and everything. But she ended up having problems with my stepmom. And, you know, to give her credit, you know, the stepmom has a drinking problem. And so, you know, there was one time in particular where she was just, uh, in a state and, you know, acting a fool and she was yelling at my dad and she was throwing stuff into the pool and, you know, and Grace, uh, that name, my girlfriend, um, she, uh, she decided that she was going to go out there and, uh, try to put her in her place and say like, you need to calm down or else I'm going to call the police. And apparently that was a big thing. And then we left and we went upstairs and then my stepmom came in and she kind of threatened to
Starting point is 00:43:42 beat her up or kick her ass or whatever but i mean she was she was blotto she was drunk you know and it but my girlfriend wanted to say well make a a big deal out of it and she refused to even come over here anymore if she was here and i don't know it is a big deal i mean imagine if a man had done that but if it was the father your father had done and threatened to hurt her physically? Loaded or not, listen, this is part of your stepmom's illness. And she now has crossed a line where she's threatened somebody else. I hope she feels guilt and shame about it.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I hope she wants to apologize. And I hope it motivates her to want to do something about her alcoholism. But if it doesn't, I don't really blame your girlfriend because it's only going to get worse yeah it doesn't go away it doesn't get better it gets worse well she uh my stepmom to she uh she tried to bury the hatchet and said like look i'll have her over here and apologize. But my girlfriend wasn't having any of it. Yeah. Women get, they get. Resentful.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Yeah. Sometimes they just don't. A man can come in and shake hands. Women. Yeah, we don't give up. No, they hang on to stuff. And for good reason. We're very protective of ourselves.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Well, dude, it's a really challenging problem. It might take time. She might get hurt eventually. She might. I don't know. I mean, I's a really challenging problem. It might take time. She might get hurt eventually. She might. I don't know. I mean, I would keep them all separate for sure. I think I would really strongly recommend that the stepmom get some treatment for alcoholism, start attending meetings if she possibly can. I mean, if your girlfriend sees that kind of movement in the right direction, maybe she'll be different. But your girlfriend is not wrong she's not wrong and it's not just that she doesn't want to be
Starting point is 00:45:29 around your parents it's that she's literally been threatened by an alcoholic who was intoxicated and that's uh pretty serious stuff i mean the reality is the fact that she didn't call the police is sort of extraordinary and that she was sort of i'm sure holding back on you know when people have that much consequence from their alcoholism you need to let the consequences fall this is really more about the alcoholism than about your parents living with you because it's not as though this started with your girlfriend i'm sure she didn't like your parents living there but this wasn't i don't i won't be around when your parents around this was now your stepmom was loaded acting crazy threatened me physically we're into some different territory here um is anybody everybody's seen bill burr's
Starting point is 00:46:14 um red rocks comedy susan we saw that last night yeah i saw it he does a whole rant about uh how women treat each other and it and it is spot on. Did you take anything away from that? I missed that one. Did I say that one? No, yeah, you did. He was just saying exactly what you were saying with this was women. He was saying that the question was why do the WNBA players get paid less than the NBA players?
Starting point is 00:46:41 And he said because the feminists don't, the women don't go to their games. They don't sell enough tickets because the people that are supposed to be interested in supporting them and involved in their careers don't buy the tickets. And then he does a whole thing about women not supporting each other and how when things get bad, they hang on to it. Here's somebody, a question. It's true. Where'd he go? I tried to teach Paulina how to let go of her grudges. Resentment.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Resentment, yeah. She'd get mad and then she would just hold it forever. And I used to say, you got to let it go. You should try to be friends again. For sure. So the monkeypox thing is still circulating around there. Yeah, people want to know if they should get the vaccine. Look, right now it's limited to risk.
Starting point is 00:47:36 It's nearly limited to risk populations. We need to give those. Who are? Which are men who have sex with men. And we need to allow that group to be fully vaccinated before we start vaccinating everybody it really you think of discriminatory they keep saying it's discriminatory it's discriminatory if we're not allowed to deliver what that group needs to stay safe and if we're not able to identify a risk population how can we deliver efficiently to that group?
Starting point is 00:48:05 Well, what about women who have anal sex? They're not typically having that anal sex with men who have sex with men. And by the way- It's just already spreading through the gay population, right? I just read an excellent thread by a physician who's gay, and he got it at a campground where he was dancing in close contact with other gay men without clothes on it was clothing optional seriously campground they were dancing everybody got monkey pox and they were naked or whatever they were they were close to that and the point
Starting point is 00:48:37 being no penetration i i don't know i think they don't they don't want to say that they're always afraid i'm saying i don't think that's necessary. That is not necessary. That's an efficient way to transmit it. But just close contact will transmit it. Now, much like with HIV, eventually it gets to non-risk populations. But if we can contain it in the risk population by vaccinating everybody, we're going to be fine. But for people who have zero risk of making direct intimate contact with the current
Starting point is 00:49:07 risk population, don't waste the vaccine over there. Now, if it breaks out big time, yes, of course, everybody will get the vaccine. And there seems to be some... Ashley's saying, I'm a lesbian. We're the least effective group right now.
Starting point is 00:49:25 I suppose that's true. G'day. Aside from the monkey pox, the campground sounds awesome. It's Whiz Chris. I know. I want to go to that party. It does sound fun. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Reminds me of an episode at the Monster one time. Oh, yeah. Jesus. They used to have underwear parties in there. It's a gay bar we go to and sing karaoke. I don't know if they have those anymore. One of the gay bars we go to to sing karaoke, by the way. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:56 This is Tom, I believe. I love gay bars. Tom. Tom, what's up? But maybe you should be getting the Mucky Pox vaccine. Maybe. Go ahead, Tom. Hey, Dr. Drew.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Hey, buddy. We've spoken in the past. I have a specific medical question for myself, but I wanted to piggyback on what you were saying with the last caller. Five years ago, my wife got sober and coming off of that i was having troubles adjusting and i talked to you and you recommended alan on yeah and boy life's a i mean good wonderful wonderful wonderful good thank you so much our family is oh that's great so really just the simplest way i think about it your wife is now
Starting point is 00:50:45 growing and changing and becoming a different person you got to catch up with her with your own program and good for you for doing right so i thought when she came she went to treatment came back on the aa did like 90 meetings in 90 days really got in good and uh, I thought everything was going to be through the tulips. And it turns out I had, uh, things to work on. So anyway, your, your, your recommendation to get into Al-Anon, um, really broke me through. So thank you very much. Well done. Um, yes. So that's five years, but, um, COVID I had COVID in January. I was not vaccinated. It was, you know, I was sick for three days or so, five days. I was totally fine. Two months later, I noticed my hair is thinning. I have a very full head of hair. And now eight months later, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:51:46 Holy crud. I, I might, you know, I've, I've lost like 40% of my hair. Oh, how long?
Starting point is 00:51:53 Eight months? Uniformly though. Eight months? So it was, it was the first part of January. So seven, seven. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:00 And have you read about that? Only that it's a thing. Isn't it more reported with the vaccine even? Is that what I'm remembering right? I must confess, I don't know. But I do know I can see my scalp now, and I'm known for my hair kind of guy. Yeah, I would go see a dermatologist
Starting point is 00:52:27 immediately okay yeah they there's something called telogen effluvian where your hair any any serious illness and pregnancy typically will do this too will cause your hair to sort of you know each hair has its own growth cycle it grows and it falls out but telogen effluvian is where all the hairs start to cycle together and then they all fall out together and then they come back together too that's a very it comes back very quickly but i don't know that that's what this is it kind of has that quality um and if it's not i'm not no it's not like my pillow's full of hair every morning no i'm seeing more hair in the sink and things like's not i'm not no it's not like my pillow's full of hair every morning no i get it i'm seeing more hair in the sink and things like that and i can you know i'm seeing a shine i don't
Starting point is 00:53:10 have enough experience with telogen effluvian to know whether it can be sort of slower like this but i will tell you this there is a lot of treatment now for alopecia of various types are you losing your eyebrows and stuff too or just the hair no it's strictly on my head and it seems to be the the you know standard male pattern yeah yeah so so a lot you know there's there's lots of not receding it's not my hairline's not receding but the the density of my hair on my crown is it's like uniformly thinner and is it in a in a round spot is it or is it throughout your scalp it's it's throughout so it's from you know about yeah the width of my eyes straight back like a mohawk yeah beautiful anti-mohawk i i would there there is a lot of medicine now a lot of these rheumatic newer rheumatic medicines you see on tv they're being
Starting point is 00:54:04 advertised they they are being advertised. They are being used for various kinds of alopecia and they work like a son of a bitch. So go see a dermatologist. For sure, for sure, for sure. So you can't see the rumble rants? I cannot. All right, so I sent one on your phone. I showed you the...
Starting point is 00:54:19 You sent it on my phone. What does that mean? I sent you a snapshot of the question. I think it was RumbleDime123. First he said, serious question, what position is Drew really in this volatile environment? And I said, what environment? Yeah, what does he mean?
Starting point is 00:54:42 And then he said, was fauci a part of hiv introduction i don't know if that was his question or if it just came up next um but i don't know i'm trying i'm trying you guys if you have questions go ahead are you saying are they saying that fauci brought hiv to the environment. Oh, come on. Please. It is. All right, let me see what you said. Oh, rumbies. We love you. The broader... Wait, okay.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Just ask questions that we can answer. What position is Drew really in this volatile environment? The border recession. I don't like the excesses on either side. That's my real position. And I am circumspect about everything, so I don't have the... I don't feel confident in having very strong opinions
Starting point is 00:55:35 about certain things, but I don't like the overreach. I don't like the mandating. I don't like all that stuff. I thought I was a libertarian at one time. I am not. I want the government to solve problems. So I'm, you know, libertarians that I know don't think the way I think.
Starting point is 00:55:55 But I generally, like, for instance, this recent legislation that the Congress is moving through, I'm generally kind of happy with that. I mean, it's not, doesn't really acknowledge a lot of the priorities that I have, but some of the stuff that they're solving in there, I'm like, yes,
Starting point is 00:56:11 I'm interested in government moving things forward, solving people's problems, allowing us to thrive, not just being in an ideological cloud all the time. Let's do what works. I said for years,
Starting point is 00:56:26 I'd sign up for a pragmatist party let's just do things that solve problems for patient for people and uh that generally means get putting forces in place that allow them to thrive and solve problems for themselves that that's how you do it generally speaking so that's my that's my general position knowing exactly how to do that i i'm not hubristic enough to to have strong strong feelings i generally when the overreach like the mask mandates to me is extremely disturbing because the science doesn't work doesn't work and if you want to protect yourself with an n95 you should do so but to have somebody mandating that everybody walk around with that what if i don't care to protect yourself with an N95, you should do so. But to have somebody mandating that everybody walk around with that, what if I don't care to protect myself? I've been exposed
Starting point is 00:57:09 to Omicron massively in the last three weeks. I spent three days in Susan, three days in a room with Susan. She had it actively. I got nothing. My daughter had it. I flew on a plane with her and I shared a yogurt with her, nothing. So my immunity is pretty good. Yeah. But you had the Delta before you got the vaccine. Correct. So I seem to have- You've only had one vaccine. Correct.
Starting point is 00:57:32 And I just seem to have pretty good, strong immunity. And you had COVID again after that. Listen- And it was a nothing burger. You didn't even think you had it when you found out. You're asking about Dr. Prasad's sensible medicine podcast. Yes. And also his other podcast.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Um, Oh crap. I found it long before anybody else had heard of him. Uh, I can't remember the name of it, but anyway, I retweet his stuff all day long. I,
Starting point is 00:57:58 I, I retreat his stuff. We've had him on the show. We're going to have him back. We've had him on the show several times and, uh, and we're going to have him back. And I also retweet Monica Gandhi stuff all the time.
Starting point is 00:58:06 So those are plenary sessions. Thank you. Those are the two physicians you can lean hard on. And also ZDogg. ZDogg also. These are people that are sensible. They're reading the literature. They're looking at the science.
Starting point is 00:58:20 They're studying it. And they also know where there is no science or the science says something different than what the government is mandating. And that becomes infuriating at a certain point because it's sort of disgusting. What are we doing? What is this all about? But there's something like- And especially when you know it harms people.
Starting point is 00:58:35 It harms kids to hold them back from school. There's something that makes you feel good about yourself for covering your face for everybody else. And you don't even know that it doesn't work. But it's just such a social virtue signaling. That's disturbing. That's back into the ideological cloud. That's disturbing.
Starting point is 00:58:50 People shouldn't have to signal each other their virtuousness. That's deeply troubling to me. I thought at the beginning, like, if you got the vaccine, you wouldn't have to wear the mask. And then if you didn't have the vaccine, you'd be wearing the mask. But then we don't know who didn't get the vaccine. Even the vaccine you'd be wearing the best but then we don't know who even the vaccine even the vaccine mandates is concerning uh i i'm concerned about and i'm definitely concerned about passports i got i got in trouble for saying hey when you create a passport
Starting point is 00:59:14 for vaccine you create an out group and oh by the way most of the unvaccinated are african-americans and they have a reason for not trusting the medical system that is quite justified. I think if you want to wear a mask, wear a goddamn mask. Of course wear a mask. But don't look down at me because I don't want to. That's what's disturbing about it. Us, them, tribes. It's deeply concerning. We should be rowing in the
Starting point is 00:59:38 same direction. Yes, vaccinate. Yes, BB. BB, I agree with everything those guys are saying she's on she's on my restream talking about youtube and she's talking about the the positions that prasad and zubin have taken about uh you know these mandates for college students and these mass for college it's just it's just non-scientific and so why why they would take these positions is sort of especially institutions that are supposed to be steeped in science.
Starting point is 01:00:09 It's very, very concerning. It's endemic. So that's frustrating. That's problematic. That's how I really feel. I think we have to re-educate everybody on the science of catching a cold and getting over it. Like everybody feels so guilty for getting sick we need to go over death and dying we need to go over what how biology works the younger generation we need
Starting point is 01:00:32 to we need to talk about what it means to have a good life and guess what get running walking through the world trying to have a good life is dangerous a lot of the time and will not be be pleasant in terms of the biological things that happen to you that that's in the nature of the time and will not be pleasant in terms of the biological things that happen to you. That's in the nature of the human experience. And if we want to, or do we want to shelter in place? Do we want to sit in a room by ourselves? Is that a life? I'd rather not live, frankly. I don't know that that's a life. I don't know that, I may guess because we have electronic media, people can sort of get a facsimile going and sort of it's it's better than it would have been I mean think about the how horrible this
Starting point is 01:01:08 would have been without zoom and without electronic media it's just technology yeah so without your television studio to keep you in the world oh my god what a crazy thing we went through. It's just ridiculous. Yeah. Unbelievable. Yes, exactly. All right. So thank you so much for joining me and for asking your questions. They've all been very great. I appreciate you all. Is Rumble Rant satisfied with my little thing there? No, he left.
Starting point is 01:01:36 He didn't like your answer. He said you were too neutral. Okay, perfect. Took off. Too neutral. Yeah, too neutral over there. Yeah, we're going to come back at you with a little Kelly Vectory once a week and keep it a rumble. Yeah, Kelly is more probably your point of view.
Starting point is 01:01:52 I'm interested in talking to Kelly. So we're going to do some special rumble shows with Kelly. I want to have Dr. Prasad back too. Yeah, let's bring him back on this one for sure. Well, we're going to do it on all of them until we get kicked off of YouTube and then we'll go over to Rubble. The reason I used to listen to plenary sessions is his ability to read medical literature was exquisite and remains as such.
Starting point is 01:02:16 We opened this show by talking a little bit about my reading in the New England Journal article about vitamin D supplementation. He reads very complicated oncological studies and has a framed understanding because he understands the full landscape of other studies that are out there and has analyzed them and thought about them. And so when you read a single study, you put it in the context of other research that's out there.
Starting point is 01:02:39 He does that incredibly well. He knows what he's talking about, and he's done that all through COVID, so he's able to do that with the infectious disease literature as well. And he's been spot on about everything. And it's really hard to do that when the information is very, it is evolving quickly and it's a moving target, but he certainly knows where there is inadequate research to be able to do and make the claims that, for instance, the CDC made, the LA County Health Director made. There's no science to make due to things they did. In fact, empirically, it looks like it harms people and they seem unyielding and unwilling to look at the empiric data and just stay with this monolithic view, which is, again, not supported
Starting point is 01:03:27 by science and hurts people. That's not who we want making decisions for us. And that is how centralized authority harms. It's why medicine authority can't be centralized. The nuance of the needs of a given individual should be determined by a medical provider, not by somebody in an ivory tower somewhere from on high. That is how you hurt people. I will try to find that George Orwell quote.
Starting point is 01:03:51 I'm distracted by that. And I will put it up on Twitter somewhere. So it was pretty interesting. It's all the things we're doing now George Orwell saw as something that could easily happen. I just got some good news for you, Ben Rumble. I just booked some good news for you. Ben Rumble. Yes. I just booked Alex Berenson.
Starting point is 01:04:10 As soon as we get pieces, the sooner the better. So yeah, that was pretty easy. Yeah, so we'll have to figure that out. We're going to be traveling next week, unfortunately. And Friday, maybe we'll do an Ask Dr. Drew with just you guys, which I love, by the way. We have a huge audience right now, and people are getting their questions answered, and we're talking about great stuff. So we'll do that again a couple days a week, hopefully. And then we'll be back maybe Friday of next week.
Starting point is 01:04:39 We're not sure. But the following week we'll pick up again. We are back. Well, sort of. It's still sort of a weird it'd be probably monday tuesday friday monday tuesday thursday something like that yeah we we're doing some traveling but we're still gonna do the show from new york and um maybe we can have alex come in that'd be great and we're going to visit the mommies we're going to austin on monday that's what's really taking us out so we'll be doing back at your mom's house jeans uh at studio jeans so and i i saw tom did a tour of studio jeans if you want to see it it's up there around on the
Starting point is 01:05:14 internet so and we also have a new guest this week you got to check her out she's pretty cute so um likes her oh yeah oh yeah we'll have a preview of it at the end of the episode all right perfect and we will see you all yeah let me make this correct next friday susan is that correct uh next friday possibly after gutfeld if we aren't if we can you know squeeze in and ask dr drew in between okay perfect okay we'll see you then. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Caleb Nation and Susan Pinsky. As a reminder, the discussions here are not a substitute for medical care, diagnosis, or treatment. This show is intended for educational and informational purposes only. I am a licensed physician, but I am not a replacement for your personal doctor,
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