Ask Dr. Drew - Your Calls + Discussing BA.5 Covid Variant, NY Nuclear Attack PSA & Today's Top News – Ask Dr. Drew – Episode 102
Episode Date: July 27, 2022[Broadcast on 7/13/22] • Dr. Drew answers your calls LIVE from New York. Topics include the BA.5 Covid variant reinfection rate, the NY Nuclear Attack PSA, today's top news, and answers to questions... from callers. Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (http://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. SPONSORED BY • GENUCEL - Using a proprietary base formulated by a pharmacist, Genucel has created skincare that can dramatically improve the appearance of facial redness and under-eye puffiness. Genucel uses clinical levels of botanical extracts in their cruelty-free, natural, made-in-the-USA line of products. Get 10% off with promo code DREW at https://genucel.com/drew GEAR PROVIDED BY • BLUE MICS - After more than 30 years in broadcasting, Dr. Drew's iconic voice has reached pristine clarity through Blue Microphones. But you don't need a fancy studio to sound great with Blue's lineup: ranging from high-quality USB mics like the Yeti, to studio-grade XLR mics like Dr. Drew's Blueberry. Find your best sound at https://drdrew.com/blue • ELGATO - Every week, Dr. Drew broadcasts live shows from his home studio under soft, clean lighting from Elgato's Key Lights. From the control room, the producers manage Dr. Drew's streams with a Stream Deck XL, and ingest HD video with a Camlink 4K. Add a professional touch to your streams or Zoom calls with Elgato. See how Elgato's lights transformed Dr. Drew's set: https://drdrew.com/sponsors/elgato/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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                                         well here we are everybody for a bonus show we uh didn't even announce that we were going to do this
                                         
                                         we decided to at the last minute and i always like doing these uh call-in shows although my twitter
                                         
                                         spaces isn't working i've got to tell you i can see you know what it is it's the wi-fi i have all
                                         
                                         kinds of don't turn it off whatever you do i'm having all kinds of disconnect and then we'll
                                         
                                         have to i had to start it again everybody i'm sorry oh no i have all kinds of trouble with the
                                         
                                         wi-fi here couldn't do it they couldn't do it. They couldn't do it.
                                         
                                         My phone's not hooking into the Wi-Fi.
                                         
                                         I'll make the new event.
                                         
    
                                         Good times.
                                         
                                         No, no, no.
                                         
                                         It's not that, Caleb.
                                         
                                         Oh, I see you have to start all over again.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I'll make a new one.
                                         
                                         Oh, this is awesome.
                                         
                                         We're learning about Twitter spaces as I'm in real time here.
                                         
                                         Okay, so here's the deal.
                                         
    
                                         A little bit to talk about on BA5 and some thoughts about that. A little bit to talk about, let's see, as it pertains to the PSAs about nuclear attacks here in New York City.
                                         
                                         I brought that up with Susan yesterday.
                                         
                                         Did you see that thing?
                                         
                                         I mean, what is that all about?
                                         
                                         Very weird.
                                         
                                         A little monkeypox talk, a little store closure, and we'll get into all of it in your calls.
                                         
                                         Let's get to it.
                                         
                                         Our laws as it pertains to substances are draconian and bizarre the psychopath started this right he was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography ptsd love addiction fentanyl
                                         
    
                                         and heroin ridiculous i'm a doctor for say where the hell you think i learned that i'm just saying
                                         
                                         you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician.
                                         
                                         I observe things about these chemicals.
                                         
                                         Let's just deal with what's real.
                                         
                                         We used to get these calls on Loveline all the time.
                                         
                                         Educate adolescents and to prevent and to treat.
                                         
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                                         I got a lot to say.
                                         
    
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                                         All right, let me get right to it here.
                                         
                                         I hope you have a lot to say because we don't have any callers.
                                         
                                         We can't get the Twitter spaces.
                                         
                                         I always have a lot to say, I'm afraid, everybody.
                                         
                                         Thank you, Maria G, about Megyn Kelly.
                                         
                                         But something caught my eye here.
                                         
                                         Let me kind of find it again.
                                         
    
                                         Caleb, send Drew the new one.
                                         
                                         Yes, send me the new link.
                                         
                                         I'm making it right now.
                                         
                                         Let's see.
                                         
                                         On his phone, not his email.
                                         
                                         No, it's whatever.
                                         
                                         Somebody was asking here, should I panic again about Monkeypox?
                                         
                                         Where did I see him?
                                         
    
                                         I'm sorry.
                                         
                                         On the restream, I'm looking for it.
                                         
                                         I saw you there for a second.
                                         
                                         Put it up again on the stream.
                                         
                                         I'll call your name out.
                                         
                                         Hey, Andrew Oshkosvili is here today.
                                         
                                         So here's what I was thinking about.
                                         
                                         I was looking at all the other...
                                         
    
                                         The press is so...
                                         
                                         Haven't we gotten used to how false the press is, how fake
                                         
                                         the press is, how much they go for the extreme and the panic? Just think about this. There are
                                         
                                         60 cases of monkeypox in San Francisco. There are 9,500 cases of monkeypox in the world.
                                         
                                         That's nothing. There are 4 billion people or whatever the amount is in the world.
                                         
                                         Now, infectious disease specialists and the CDC and the World Health Organization should be
                                         
                                         concerned about it. They should be making very diligent efforts to roll out the vaccines and
                                         
                                         get the at-risk populations educated up and give them the proper therapies and vaccines.
                                         
    
                                         It's men who have sex with men predominantly. Okay. That's it.
                                         
                                         But to make a panic about that, when I literally, I made a list of some of the other medications,
                                         
                                         excuse me, some of the other infectious diseases that are out there that are vastly more dangerous.
                                         
                                         I actually wonder if they're racist at heart, because these are many of your African and
                                         
                                         Caribbean illnesses, tularemia, brucellosis, tuberculosis, chikungunya, Rift Valley fever,
                                         
                                         Lassa fever, polydrug-resistant acinetobacter,
                                         
                                         Crimea-Congo hemorrhagic fever.
                                         
                                         These are much more common and much more serious.
                                         
    
                                         Much more common and much more serious.
                                         
                                         And no vaccine, or a very minimal vaccine for most of them.
                                         
                                         Why are, you can't do this.
                                         
                                         You can't talk about monkeypox without contextualizing it
                                         
                                         so the public can understand.
                                         
                                         There's a lot worse shit out there.
                                         
                                         A lot.
                                         
                                         But we should have a vaccine for non-hetero people having sex
                                         
    
                                         and wanting to avoid the disease.
                                         
                                         I mean, I don't have a problem with that.
                                         
                                         But to make it a panic is not good.
                                         
                                         I'm not sure what you're saying.
                                         
                                         I mean, if it was get it you would want to have
                                         
                                         a cure for it or aids we were expecting it to break out of these the the same-sex community
                                         
                                         and making everybody freak out about it is just not right right that's right okay did you get
                                         
                                         your twitter i'm up i'm up and running twitter space okay everybody taking your calls so so uh
                                         
    
                                         let me look at your guys comments about about that. And now BA5.
                                         
                                         Here's the thing about BA5.
                                         
                                         BA4, BA5.
                                         
                                         Yeah, Margaret, the press may be hopeless after all.
                                         
                                         Making people freak out is good ratings, Toms, but it's reprehensible and unethical.
                                         
                                         And it's about time we saw through it.
                                         
                                         Don't get nervous.
                                         
                                         I, for years, have been just mortified by the way medical stories are
                                         
    
                                         reported by the press. I remember I was standing in a patient room, and the Every Morning Show was
                                         
                                         talking to some Australian doctor who announced that ulcers and gastritis were now cured by an
                                         
                                         antibiotic. It's all over. It's an antibiotic. It's an infectious disease. They're talking about
                                         
                                         H. pylori, which, of course, we knew about at the time. We'd known about it for years. It doesn't cure anything. It helps some people,
                                         
                                         but there's many other aspects of the pathogenesis of those processes. The press had no business
                                         
                                         even reporting on it, let alone dedicating morning shows to it. So stop. It's really
                                         
                                         down to the Gelman amnesia. Things you know about, like if they ever do an article on you, you'll see how distorted
                                         
                                         everything is to come out in the press.
                                         
    
                                         So you look at that and you go, oh, wow, they really don't know what they're talking about.
                                         
                                         Dr. Gelman was a physicist and he looked at all the, whenever there's physics reporting,
                                         
                                         he said, geez, they don't know what they're talking about.
                                         
                                         But let's talk about international relations.
                                         
                                         They seem to have their shit together there.
                                         
                                         So that's Gelman amnesia.
                                         
                                         They don't.
                                         
                                         They distort everything. And they're going for eyesnesia. They don't. They distort everything.
                                         
    
                                         And they're going for eyes.
                                         
                                         They're going for views.
                                         
                                         They're going for traction.
                                         
                                         And the medical stuff, it just has to stop.
                                         
                                         They must, if they don't contextualize it, don't listen to them.
                                         
                                         How does monkeypox compare to tuberculosis in San Francisco?
                                         
                                         Guess what?
                                         
                                         They have a much worse problem with tuberculosis in San Francisco.
                                         
    
                                         And that is contagious to everyone.
                                         
                                         And by the way way you don't
                                         
                                         know when people are walking around with it and it's in the streets it's everywhere so what are
                                         
                                         we talking about everybody what are we what are we getting why are we even why do you even know
                                         
                                         about it that's what really kills me why do you even know about it so okay i am successfully up on
                                         
                                         um the twitter spaces we have 94 people there so somebody must have a good question great if you guys have questions just raise your hand your requests come on and we see your restream questions, too
                                         
                                         And your rumble rants where we're definitely watching you over there as well
                                         
                                         Oh, I do not see the rumble rants hold on
                                         
    
                                         I got a up I got a re-up that we kind of ran in here in a hurry because I had to go to
                                         
                                         This door and get a cat six cable for some reason. I don't see anybody on the bumble rant so you guys are welcome there yet okay well they'll start i'm watching uh tom cigar says and
                                         
                                         of course it boils down to politics just like everything else since 2020 you know it's tom
                                         
                                         it's it's more than just politics it is um there's something character our characters got screwed up and we've got to really get our our
                                         
                                         oars back in the water or get our what do they call it we get the uh to get the rudder right
                                         
                                         yeah get going with it you know get the sails up properly and you know you know whatever uh
                                         
                                         okay i'm looking at you guys get on that Tom you gotta unmute spaces oh that's the problem there okay
                                         
                                         for spaces um hi there yes if you guys are there just raise your hand and if you if you do I'll
                                         
    
                                         bring you up uh you're just requested to come up and chat we'll ask questions anything you want to
                                         
                                         talk about and um you will be by doing so you are con you you are consenting to be streamed out in this open forum on Rumble,
                                         
                                         Twitch, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, wherever we stream out. So let me talk to, whoops, Jag first
                                         
                                         and see what Jag is up to. Jag, your mic is muted. That's the other thing up there.
                                         
                                         Hey there. Yeah, I'm here. Hey, Dr. Drew, can you hear me? Loud and clear. Okay, so I was on with you about two days ago. Yeah. And funny enough, I tested positive yesterday. And it was, I go, it was funny, I posted you on Facebook. And I'm like, I think Dr. Drew jinxed me.
                                         
                                         I'm sorry.
                                         
                                         It was literally like, do I get boosted? And you're like, no, you're probably better off getting the virus.
                                         
                                         And you know, I personally, I think I told you,
                                         
    
                                         I had the exact same experience just as it was last December,
                                         
                                         and I was thinking, should I get boosted?
                                         
                                         It would probably be better if I got it within a week I had it.
                                         
                                         I literally, and it was so funny because we got off the call,
                                         
                                         and I started feeling a little weird,
                                         
                                         and then Monday night I woke up in the middle
                                         
                                         of the night with the worst sweats. I mean, I was drenched, drenched. Yeah. I tested, believe it or
                                         
                                         not, I tested negative meat at first. And then a little later, a little later on is just the,
                                         
    
                                         the, the sweats. I guess the i was uh filling you in again is because
                                         
                                         i'm kind of curious because i'm now on i guess what day three um but i don't feel worse i my
                                         
                                         headaches gone it's been very in most people in particularly young young people who are vaccinated
                                         
                                         it's been i mean i'm not saying i haven't seen some nasty ba5 i have but for the most part it
                                         
                                         has been very mild very mild and i have not been using
                                         
                                         paxlovid in the most people like me i've been i've been using it uh he saw me it was nothing burger
                                         
                                         i i'm been you well not just you i've i just today had two 80 year olds that came down with it one
                                         
                                         was a runny nose the other was fever and sick and she got the paxlovid. And so it, and I, by the way, in the meantime,
                                         
    
                                         seen 20, 40 year olds in that sort of middle age group. And it was all very, very, very mild,
                                         
                                         all vaccinated to be fair. And it's a very strange condition. It's, it's, here's the other thing about the BA5 that I find interesting. And you tell me if this fits with how you contracted it,
                                         
                                         the R0, which is sort of the degree to which a virus spreads,
                                         
                                         you know, one-to-one versus one-to-three,
                                         
                                         and how many people you're likely to infect at a certain distance.
                                         
                                         And the R-naught of alpha and delta was between three and five, essentially.
                                         
                                         For PA5, it's like, and I've read a couple articles on this
                                         
                                         to make sure I had it correct, somewhere
                                         
    
                                         between 16 and 18, that you are, it's like measles. And so if you walk through a room that somebody
                                         
                                         had been in with COVID, you're likely to contract it. So using a mask, I don't know how, I mean,
                                         
                                         by all means, if you're worried, put your damn N95 on, but you're going to, if you're, if you're worried put your damn n95 on but you're gonna if you're if you're gonna try
                                         
                                         to protect yourself with n95 you cannot lower it to blow your nose or to drink some water or to
                                         
                                         take some food don't you mean to protect others if you have you don't protect it doesn't protect
                                         
                                         other people it doesn't yeah i can't i take i've been telling you this it makes you feel better
                                         
                                         about yourself it makes you feel better that's fine and it might do a little something something you know maybe a little bit but really it's the it's
                                         
                                         you if you want to protect yourself you like susan if you'd had an infectious disease and you were in
                                         
    
                                         a hospital bed and i walked in as the doctor i'd be wearing the mask not you right now i might put
                                         
                                         a mask on you it's a kind of if you were coughing vigorously and that kind of thing let's not get into it let's let's i i'm not gonna because because i don't care i i didn't get it either
                                         
                                         yeah i i'm i've got really robust immunity i know you're in really good shape these days i'm
                                         
                                         it's usually me that's in better shape yeah so so so susan are you do you have it right now too
                                         
                                         she had it she had it she had it. She had it. I did it again.
                                         
                                         Yeah, she did it again.
                                         
                                         Wow.
                                         
                                         A week ago.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, and she's all through it.
                                         
                                         It was a nothing.
                                         
                                         It was a nothing, nothing for her.
                                         
                                         I guess that was my chiming in because watching a lot of the news and it's like, oh, it's highly –
                                         
                                         obviously, like we just said, with the 16 to 18, it's crazy.
                                         
                                         I mean, I literally – i'm a homebody i work
                                         
                                         from home i think i went to walmart and then i went to a restaurant over the weekend and nothing
                                         
                                         closed really and i'm like i could have got everybody's asking where do you think you got it
                                         
    
                                         i said i don't know 7-eleven right like it's i mean i have no were you wearing a mask i'm like
                                         
                                         no of course not why there's no way to protect us. I guess my point
                                         
                                         now is I'm on day three. I actually feel so much better in the last two days. And everybody's like,
                                         
                                         well, just watch it. It could always get worse. And I'm like, I don't see how, but I'll be humble
                                         
                                         because you just never know. Be humble. It's a nefarious illness. It's a weird illness. But
                                         
                                         yeah, it's been very mild for the most part and and the probability of you needing treatment is really low but if you don't have a fever let's remind her fever is one
                                         
                                         of the threshold symptoms i've been sort of using as whether or not to treat with paxlovid but um
                                         
                                         but if somebody had severe muscle aches and the severe headache and all and frustration well
                                         
    
                                         so let me let me just share really quick and then i'll jump off okay come on yeah the first symptom
                                         
                                         i had was a i mean
                                         
                                         a massive headache i mean one that i've never had that's never had it before it was my entire head
                                         
                                         yeah uh and then shortly after the chills like i couldn't believe under the blanket yeah and then
                                         
                                         immediately turned into the body sweats but i never developed a fever um you probably did you
                                         
                                         probably did right before you had the sweat right so? So the chills is your temperature going up.
                                         
                                         The sweats is your temperature going down.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         And then sweating it out, I actually took my temp, and it was still 98-point something.
                                         
                                         So, I mean, for now, like I said, I'm just tracking it.
                                         
                                         Right now, after all of that has passed so far, it just feels like a little bit of sinus congestion.
                                         
                                         And like I said, thank you.
                                         
                                         You jinxed me.
                                         
                                         I'm happy.
                                         
                                         You're all done now the question is will you be if you ever want to travel internationally will that be adequate that's the
                                         
                                         really shitty thing you know what i mean so now they're saying well i document it i i literally
                                         
    
                                         am i'm i'm documenting my tests and my positivity but like send it to your doctor and then have them
                                         
                                         document it and if you travel you can show that you've had COVID.
                                         
                                         France is the only country I know of that will listen to that.
                                         
                                         Those things are going to change.
                                         
                                         If you said, oh, I had COVID three months ago and I want to fly, I don't need a vaccine.
                                         
                                         Well, I'm glad you're getting through it.
                                         
                                         I don't plan on traveling internationally for some time simply because, God forbid, you test positive, you're trapped.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's for sure.
                                         
    
                                         I don't want to do that either.
                                         
                                         But thank you very much again.
                                         
                                         I'll keep listening.
                                         
                                         Be well.
                                         
                                         Pleasure.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
                                         You too.
                                         
                                         All right. I'm looking at you guys are requesting to come up here.
                                         
    
                                         Give me a second to look at the restream and at the Rumble Rants.
                                         
                                         Oh, there you are.
                                         
                                         Ollie Loving is here, but I only see you, Ollie.
                                         
                                         I don't see anybody else. I don't know if anybody else is there.
                                         
                                         No chatters.
                                         
                                         And where's our J-Hep friend?
                                         
                                         Shep.
                                         
                                         Jahan.
                                         
    
                                         Shep. Hi, Insane Crazy. There's our J-Hep friend? Shep. Jahan. Shep.
                                         
                                         Hi, Insane Crazy.
                                         
                                         There's a YMH fan in there.
                                         
                                         Two-thirds of those with long COVID complain about being unable to sleep.
                                         
                                         What's worse is that the problem has affected African Americans three times more than other ethnicities.
                                         
                                         Sweet George, there's a lot of weird observational data flying around out there
                                         
                                         that doesn't really fit with what we're seeing clinically what we're seeing clinically is
                                         
                                         people get sick if they get really sick they have some persistent symptoms similar to what you would
                                         
    
                                         have from any other severe illness i can tell you that when you're sort of still recovering from this thing, memory changes
                                         
                                         better or worse, kind of common, difficulty concentrating, some fatigue, difficulty doing
                                         
                                         things that goes on for a week or so, maybe two weeks, maybe a month. And during that time, yes,
                                         
                                         sleep disruptions and all kinds of funny things. It is much like a concussion, very similar to a
                                         
                                         concussion. And I'm certain that that is clear, is accurate.
                                         
                                         But you'll also see data saying that there's end organ damage. We've been telling you there's end
                                         
                                         organ damage. Yes. When you get really sick, there is end organ damage. That's any illness,
                                         
                                         any illness. And there can even be brain shrinkage from most many, many severe illnesses. And in adult medicine,
                                         
    
                                         you recover from that. Your body heals much the way. If you broke your arm, it would heal.
                                         
                                         You damage your liver. It heals. Liver is particularly resilient. Turns out the brain,
                                         
                                         most of the damages in the glue or glial cells, which they recover. So it's, it's to get overly
                                         
                                         focused on these, again again these catastrophizing stories
                                         
                                         you have to contextualize it you must you must you must uh yes it's really weird it's like
                                         
                                         now you get a common cold and if it's covid you have to stop your life like it's weird you know
                                         
                                         just because you test positive well i mean it's look's a problem. But there's a new variant out there, a BA 2.217 or something like that, that has like
                                         
                                         many new mutations in it.
                                         
    
                                         Boy, see, that's a COVID brain right there.
                                         
                                         Oh, shut up.
                                         
                                         Many new mutations in it, and it appeared throughout the globe simultaneously.
                                         
                                         Very weird. And they don't know
                                         
                                         what that's all about so they're worried about the virus's ability to create all these mutations
                                         
                                         uh oh people don't know that i'm saying the ba5 covid variant when i say ba5 i'm talking about
                                         
                                         coven b4 ba5 ba2 the these are all and then i also talked about alpha and delta which are the
                                         
                                         original variants and then now we're talking about omicron BA5. So Omicron BA5.
                                         
    
                                         And, you know, by the way, I saw a video with Anthony Fauci talking today.
                                         
                                         And he was the Anthony Fauci I love.
                                         
                                         He was himself.
                                         
                                         I couldn't believe it.
                                         
                                         I was like, that's Anthony Fauci.
                                         
                                         He has COVID right now.
                                         
                                         He's back.
                                         
                                         He's back.
                                         
    
                                         And he was very sensible.
                                         
                                         He was very even. He contextualized things.
                                         
                                         He was saying, we're not mandating. Relax. We're here to recommend things. And like, oh, my God,
                                         
                                         I was like, wow, we can listen to this man again. So good news, everybody. All right, let's get Anthony up here. He's been waiting a little bit to ask a question. Anthony, yep, unmute.
                                         
                                         How are you doing, sir?
                                         
                                         Good, how are you?
                                         
                                         I'm pretty good. I had a quick question regarding getting vaccinated after already having one vaccine shot.
                                         
                                         So I got COVID back in March of 2021, and I got my first Moderna vaccine in June.
                                         
    
                                         I was wondering, I live with my 65-year-old grandfather.
                                         
                                         He's been vaccinated twice.
                                         
                                         I did not get the second shot, but I was wondering if I should get it now
                                         
                                         or what you think.
                                         
                                         How long ago was your first shot um it was in june
                                         
                                         do you have a physician you can talk to about it um i have insurance to work i would have to
                                         
                                         get hooked up well i i it's not ideal but yeah i probably would do that um the good news is
                                         
                                         that the proxy well it's hard it's. It's really, no one knows.
                                         
    
                                         Look at Vinay Prasad's Twitter feed, and he talks about this a lot. Should we just be giving young
                                         
                                         males one vaccine? He at very minimum is saying we should separate the vaccines by a month or two,
                                         
                                         which is what you've done, which is great, because having done so significantly lowers the risk of myocarditis.
                                         
                                         Now, the thing is, you're in a hybrid situation.
                                         
                                         You've had COVID.
                                         
                                         You've had one vaccine.
                                         
                                         How much more is a second one going to do for you?
                                         
                                         And by the way, the present mRNA vaccine is not really covering BA5 or Omicron.
                                         
    
                                         So it's really hard to make that call.
                                         
                                         That's why I would want you to sit down with
                                         
                                         your own doctor and make this decision. I was wondering about the efficacy of the vaccines
                                         
                                         that are out there now in the new variant. They're not. They're not very effective. But the CDC is
                                         
                                         still recommending it. So it's a tough putt, right? And, and a 65 year old is not at super high risk from,
                                         
                                         from COVID. And as I've said, Omicron that I've seen has been relatively, at least BA5 has been
                                         
                                         relatively mild. What, what, if it were me, I'm not giving you this advice, but if it were me,
                                         
                                         what I might do is because I felt like I had hybrid immunity and I was in pretty good shape,
                                         
    
                                         I might wait till the new Omicron vaccine comes out in the late summer and fall and just take that.
                                         
                                         That's what I would probably do.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         I'll still talk with my physician.
                                         
                                         I appreciate it.
                                         
                                         You bet it.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Also,
                                         
    
                                         I loved you on Legion of skanks and I listened to Dr.
                                         
                                         Drew after dark all the time.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
                                         Thank you,
                                         
                                         Anthony.
                                         
                                         But Anthony,
                                         
                                         try to explain,
                                         
                                         try to explain to my wife what Legion of Skanks was and to the listeners.
                                         
    
                                         It's a bunch of gentlemen who hang out and they have a good time. And Dr. Drew was a good boy.
                                         
                                         I tried to fit in. I tried to fit in with those guys. It took some doing, I got to tell you.
                                         
                                         And let's be clear. Those guys are sharp. They are fast. They're funny
                                         
                                         I had to really concentrate to get in with them and they were drunk as high as shit
                                         
                                         I don't know how they did that. I don't know how you're able to do this. It's craziness
                                         
                                         You should really talk to Lewis about his dab usage. I don't know how
                                         
                                         That's what I'm saying.
                                         
                                         So there is a plan afoot for us
                                         
    
                                         to go to Skank Fest.
                                         
                                         Come on, Susan.
                                         
                                         Sorry for my shaky voice.
                                         
                                         I love your podcast. I listen all the time.
                                         
                                         I have anxiety.
                                         
                                         Goodbye.
                                         
                                         All right, Anthony, goodbye.
                                         
                                         God bless Anthony.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, Anthony.
                                         
                                         Yeah, you don't want to go to Skankfest?
                                         
                                         No, I do.
                                         
                                         I wish I could have gone with you.
                                         
                                         We've gone to Ellis Mania several times.
                                         
                                         I've been threatening to go to the Juggalo gathering.
                                         
                                         And I thought Skankfest might be an intermediate move for me.
                                         
                                         That's all I'm saying.
                                         
    
                                         You were invited to the Juggalos.
                                         
                                         I know, but that actually sounds dangerous.
                                         
                                         That I'm a little worried about.
                                         
                                         They were really cute.
                                         
                                         Skankfest, I imagine. I know. Caleb's laughing at me. It I imagine it's just funny Caleb do you understand all this stuff is your you're
                                         
                                         gonna find it you would have to bring a film crew with you to the juggalos like
                                         
                                         you would have to be something that's yeah I and a security force well yes but
                                         
                                         how about a gang fest tell me more about that I'm for how about the skank fest
                                         
    
                                         tell me more I don't even I don't even I'm not familiar with the skank fest so i i just thought that it was funny that a couple days ago
                                         
                                         whenever you first mentioned it that uh tom the moderator on twitch had to add the word skanks to
                                         
                                         allow it when people were commenting it because it kept kicking people off from their moderation
                                         
                                         so he had to add the word skanks as an allowed term. So now all the commenters can say that on Twitch now.
                                         
                                         So in seeing crazy, I am scrolling up and all I see is a bunch of memes from your mom's house.
                                         
                                         I'm sorry.
                                         
                                         I'm not seeing anything else.
                                         
                                         Oh, sir.
                                         
    
                                         Damn, dude.
                                         
                                         I hope you get it all figured out.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         So where is that?
                                         
                                         You know what?
                                         
                                         My, my.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         I can scroll a little further
                                         
    
                                         i think my friend you're gonna have to re i didn't see it uh so i'm sorry uh any event let me uh and
                                         
                                         and by the way if i'm talking uh to someone on the on the twitter uh on twitter um best that you don't
                                         
                                         here you go okay though i had an accident at work involving
                                         
                                         a machine exploding 80 burn we've been struggling with depression and addiction and he's just who
                                         
                                         is this his dad yes a lot of trouble with pain and why me why didn't i just die would love to talk
                                         
                                         one day but i have to gather myself and personally wouldn't like it broadcast necessarily so insane crazy
                                         
                                         i mean these are these are really i mean this is what medicine is about right which is really
                                         
                                         serious illness and injury and trying to diminish our first job is to make them better but the second
                                         
    
                                         is to diminish suffering and boy you know nothing
                                         
                                         hurts more than burns nothing is more disfiguring than burns nothing is more disabling than burns
                                         
                                         now what i will tell you is most people i don't know how far out he is from these burns but
                                         
                                         but most people go through a depressive phase that they come out of and they find a way to be thankful and happy again for living.
                                         
                                         It's not easy.
                                         
                                         And some people don't.
                                         
                                         Let's be fair.
                                         
                                         But there are treatments out there and there are ways to, you know, obviously his pain management is number one.
                                         
    
                                         I don't know how you can even talk about addiction in the setting of that many, that big a burn situation because it just doesn't that's
                                         
                                         what it's made for yeah this is what it's for now i will tell you if he's starting to have behavioral
                                         
                                         disturbances from the opioids look into suboxone as a high dose suboxone as an alternative to the
                                         
                                         short-acting opiates and opioids he might be getting so one thing to do is look into suboxone
                                         
                                         the next thing is to talk you find somebody that does work with people whose lives have been upended by profound illness or
                                         
                                         profound injury. I mean, even people that have quadriplegia and things like that, they do often
                                         
                                         go through that why didn't I just die thing, and they come around. So just stay a little positive.
                                         
                                         I hope it hasn't been too many months or years since this all happened to him. But there are things to be done. There are things to be done.
                                         
    
                                         Okay, here we go. Let me try to get to
                                         
                                         Amanda here. Amanda, go ahead.
                                         
                                         Good afternoon.
                                         
                                         Good afternoon. This is Amanda. Hey, what's happening?
                                         
                                         Oh, lots of different things. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. This is Amanda. Hey, what's happening?
                                         
                                         Oh, lots of different things.
                                         
                                         First off, I want to say that, Jag, I hope you feel better.
                                         
                                         And everybody else that has COVID or any other illnesses.
                                         
    
                                         But the one thing that my doctor gave my husband, because he thought he had COVID at one time, but tested negatively. He was just sick.
                                         
                                         So she recommended like vitamin D,
                                         
                                         2,000 units,
                                         
                                         aspirin, 81,
                                         
                                         vitamin C,
                                         
                                         500 milligrams,
                                         
                                         and zinc.
                                         
                                         That is the Zelenko protocol.
                                         
    
                                         Get the Z-Pak.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         We were helping Dr. Zelenko
                                         
                                         push out his little vitamin thing.
                                         
                                         We miss him.
                                         
                                         He died of a terrible illness.
                                         
                                         But he's still selling his vitamins.
                                         
                                         It's all in one pill, I think.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, it's one pill.
                                         
                                         Do we have the banner?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And there's debate about how much vitamin C and how much D
                                         
                                         and whether or not zinc really does anything
                                         
                                         and whether you should also be taking quercetin
                                         
                                         because you need some sort of inofor to get the zinc into the cells.
                                         
                                         But yes, you're right.
                                         
    
                                         Now, that is not technically a treatment it was
                                         
                                         originally called the uh not the virginia plant the math program math plus it was called the math
                                         
                                         plus and uh it really was more about trying to boost people's immune function as much as possible
                                         
                                         to fight off the illness as it came in uh but it wouldn't hurt wouldn't hurt uh again i don't know
                                         
                                         how long people should stay on zinc that's. That's a challenging question these days because it can affect copper metabolism.
                                         
                                         But go ahead.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         And I have another question, too, because, of course, with school restarting, you know, my daughter is 16.
                                         
    
                                         And, of course, you know, with her immune system, so far she hasn't gotten COVID.
                                         
                                         But my husband works in the restaurant industry.
                                         
                                         And so we're kind of thinking, you know,
                                         
                                         should she go ahead and still wear a mask this year?
                                         
                                         Or do you think we should go ahead and just let her get it?
                                         
                                         Because I know my family has gotten COVID
                                         
                                         and they've gotten over it very quickly.
                                         
                                         Again, these are very interesting questions and I, I,
                                         
    
                                         I'm glad I don't have to make them for young people.
                                         
                                         They're difficult questions and I hope you'll make it with her pediatrician.
                                         
                                         If she chooses to wear a mask,
                                         
                                         it has to be a properly fitting in 95 mask and she has to wear it all the
                                         
                                         time whenever she's indoors, period.
                                         
                                         If she's going to try to do that and the probability of her avoiding it if it
                                         
                                         it's or if it's around it's kind of low anyway it depends how much of a trouble that is to her
                                         
                                         well and plus being asthmatic just like a lot of people so yes i'm going to talk to her doctor and
                                         
    
                                         and see but my other question is i've been dealing with hyperacusis or at least that's
                                         
                                         the diagnosis i have for the last couple of years.
                                         
                                         And then now they think we might have frontal lobe seizures.
                                         
                                         You might have frontal lobe seizures?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         So you must have seen a neurologist, yes, for this?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         And how long has it been going on for?
                                         
    
                                         Seriously, since September of 2020.
                                         
                                         So I'm now on disability, and I want to get this to stop because I don't like being at home.
                                         
                                         I mean, I used to go out and do stuff.
                                         
                                         And so instead of now I've gained weight, and I hate it, and I can it and I can't do things like what are the symptoms?
                                         
                                         How do you how does it affect your day and day out functioning?
                                         
                                         What is it? Where do you get symptoms? What are they?
                                         
                                         I basically I'll say I feel weird.
                                         
                                         And then that's when a seizure starts.
                                         
    
                                         And it basically starts where the the head will hurt really bad in certain areas.
                                         
                                         And then my eyes will start going down.
                                         
                                         And I have no control of that eye.
                                         
                                         And then once it shuts, all my body movements, I have no control.
                                         
                                         I can still hear, but I have no control of any of my body. And here lately, they've been getting worse and lasting 30 minutes, 40 minutes.
                                         
                                         And then I'm really tired afterwards.
                                         
                                         And so, you know, my husband's done research.
                                         
                                         But then again, you're more on the medical side.
                                         
    
                                         And I'd like to get your input.
                                         
                                         So what do you think?
                                         
                                         I mean, I've had EEGs. I'm requesting another EEG and an
                                         
                                         MRI, but I have to be put to sleep for MRI because I can't do the machine because sounds bother me.
                                         
                                         Okay. And did you have spike waves in your EEG?
                                         
                                         Well, it was more when I was in the hospital, I was plugged in and had a video.
                                         
                                         And so my first neurologist I had was basically an a-hole.
                                         
                                         But the next neurologist, he was more on the hyperacusis side.
                                         
    
                                         And he said, yes, we saw some damage or he might have either had a heart attack or a stroke in the past.
                                         
                                         But I don't remember having one. Okay. None of this is making sense i gotta tell you heart attack has nothing to do
                                         
                                         you mean stroke not heart attack yeah they think that i've had a stroke okay so you had a stroke
                                         
                                         okay so something damaged a little part of your brain a head injury or a stroke yes uh and and and they saw it on spec scan? MRI.
                                         
                                         And so your EEGs,
                                         
                                         and did they do continuous EEGs?
                                         
                                         You did them like in a monitored unit where they do EEGs constantly? Yes, like 72
                                         
                                         hours. And they did not see spike
                                         
    
                                         wave when you had the seizure activity,
                                         
                                         correct? They did not see the EEG
                                         
                                         change. Because
                                         
                                         they were more looking for
                                         
                                         epileptic, minor non for epileptic right mine are non
                                         
                                         epileptic see you got it okay got it so yes so what's the question about this
                                         
                                         well basically you know my daily function is not normal no no like I got
                                         
                                         what's the question I'm trying to think of it it's just that's the question? Get down to a specific question.
                                         
    
                                         I'm trying to think of it.
                                         
                                         It's just that's the problem is my brain function is crazy.
                                         
                                         So are they recommending?
                                         
                                         Do I think?
                                         
                                         Go ahead.
                                         
                                         I mean, depending on the next MRI, do you think I should go ahead and consider having surgery?
                                         
                                         No. So that way I can get back into a normal life because I am taking about 10 meds a day.
                                         
                                         Yeah. I don't want to get too deep into this, but what surgery do they want to do?
                                         
    
                                         Probably go back in the behind the head.
                                         
                                         Put a stimulator in?
                                         
                                         Yes. in yes okay I would I would think you would be able to find something that
                                         
                                         would work for this medication wise if they recommend a stimulator to are you
                                         
                                         fine I I not I don't have a lot of confidence that that would work either
                                         
                                         but you know you need to go to maybe even a place. There are people that specialize
                                         
                                         in non-epileptic seizures. They're complicated and they're protean and they're frustrating for
                                         
                                         everybody. And they tend not to respond to usual meds and things. So I'm not surprised you're on a
                                         
    
                                         bunch of things. So that would be, I mean, you really are disabled by this.
                                         
                                         You want to get back to living.
                                         
                                         That would be my recommendation.
                                         
                                         Find a center that really has specialization in non-epileptic seizures.
                                         
                                         The medicines may be causing as much problem as your seizures right now,
                                         
                                         because if you're on 10 meds, that is not good.
                                         
                                         And there are behavioral and all sorts of feedback ways of dealing with non-optic seizures.
                                         
                                         They're not, they were marginalized for many years.
                                         
    
                                         That's why you're dealing with neurologists that are sort of pushing you aside.
                                         
                                         But there are people that take them very seriously.
                                         
                                         I think UCLA has a big program for this.
                                         
                                         So I got to take a break.
                                         
                                         Thank you for your call.
                                         
                                         We're going to take a break and then come back with more calls after this.
                                         
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                                         Aaron Howell wants to blurt out some medical suggestions,
                                         
                                         which I'm happy to have you do.
                                         
                                         I'm happy to get in that kind of discussion.
                                         
                                         I thought, and so you're saying that you wouldn't be covered under good Samaritan laws,
                                         
    
                                         but I think you might be.
                                         
                                         And A, make it clear,
                                         
                                         this is educational you're talking about.
                                         
                                         Child overweight, immune compromised,
                                         
                                         COVID can hit them harder.
                                         
                                         That's true.
                                         
                                         Yeah, they may not, know, the kid doesn't
                                         
                                         have asthma. She was saying how to, she was worried about wearing the mask because of the
                                         
    
                                         asthma. Uh, I mean, excuse me. It doesn't have COVID. The, the, she has asthma, but not COVID.
                                         
                                         Okay. Let me look back over at the, Oh, the rumble rants going now. Okay.
                                         
                                         Suboxone is awful. Have you ever lived with someone on that?
                                         
                                         That's for replacement therapy for opiate addiction.
                                         
                                         That's not what I was talking about.
                                         
                                         I was talking about for pain management when somebody had lost control of their ability
                                         
                                         to regulate their opioid and pain control.
                                         
                                         In that case, suboxone actually can really help some people.
                                         
    
                                         If you're using it for just heroin addiction or something
                                         
                                         Then it's a much more complicated story
                                         
                                         Let's see kovat is BS
                                         
                                         variants popping up. Yep
                                         
                                         Let me see if how she gives us AIDS from HIV. No, no, no
                                         
                                         Okay, you're ranting away there guys, and I appreciate that
                                         
                                         And over on restream. I want to look at what you guys are saying there.
                                         
                                         Wait, let's talk about that nuclear bomb.
                                         
    
                                         Which nuclear?
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         So go ahead.
                                         
                                         The nuclear.
                                         
                                         I haven't seen it yet.
                                         
                                         So was it yesterday I first brought it up to you?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I go, have you seen that ad that New York City's put out where they're telling you what
                                         
    
                                         to do in the event of, and it starts out with, don't ask why, don't wonder why this happened.
                                         
                                         Here's what we're going to tell you. You're going to do when a nuclear bomb goes off.
                                         
                                         So you saw this on TV?
                                         
                                         Uh, I think I saw it on YouTube, something like that. I saw it. I think I extended up
                                         
                                         and watching TV. So I think I saw it somewhere else. Um, but it was by the New York safety
                                         
                                         commission or something. And it essentially says, uh, here's what you do. You, uh, you go inside immediately. You go towards the center of the building and you stay inside. And it essentially says, here's what you do. You go inside immediately. You go
                                         
                                         towards the center of the building and you stay inside. And then, and here's the, well, here it is.
                                         
                                         Here it is. This is it. Caleb is playing it. This opening sequence is kind of crazy.
                                         
    
                                         So there's been a nuclear attack. Don't ask me how or why. Just know that the big one has hit.
                                         
                                         Okay. So what do we do? There are three important steps that I want you to remember.
                                         
                                         Step one, get inside fast.
                                         
                                         Isn't that crazy?
                                         
                                         You, your friends, your family, get inside.
                                         
                                         And no, staying in the car is not an option.
                                         
                                         You need to get into a building
                                         
                                         and move away from the windows.
                                         
    
                                         Step two, stay inside. Shut all doors the windows. Step two, stay inside.
                                         
                                         Shut all doors and windows.
                                         
                                         Have a basement?
                                         
                                         Head there.
                                         
                                         If you don't have one,
                                         
                                         get as far into the middle of the building as possible.
                                         
                                         If you were outside after the blast, get close.
                                         
                                         Wait, wait, keep playing it,
                                         
    
                                         because there's a part in here.
                                         
                                         Keep going, the last part is the part
                                         
                                         that's kind of striking to me.
                                         
                                         To keep radioactive dust or ash away from your body.
                                         
                                         Step three, stay tuned.
                                         
                                         Follow media for more information.
                                         
                                         Don't forget to sign up for Notify NYC.
                                         
                                         Follow media, which they've just spent the last two or three years eroding their legitimacy
                                         
    
                                         and their ability to trust them
                                         
                                         so listen to media in the face of a nuclear holocaust where there's no power what are we
                                         
                                         going to do how are you going to listen to media yeah isn't that your phones be dead too of course
                                         
                                         you're going to have to have a winding radio you know radio where you get the power and they did
                                         
                                         not suggest anything with batteries they didn't say get a battery operating radio listen to your phone like you always do the 5g will be up and running no it
                                         
                                         will not well there'll be no power anything up and running they might have a generator
                                         
                                         am radio broadcast over large periods okay so this is how radio can come back like it'll be
                                         
                                         the only thing out there but nobody has radios right so you have to get a
                                         
    
                                         crank radio that or battery radio that's the other way but yeah you should have that in your kit
                                         
                                         right yeah so caleb am i am i making a valid point here that a nobody trusts what the media
                                         
                                         is telling us and then and by the way we're not going to ask them why or what happened
                                         
                                         and then finally we we have a phone with a 5g system or a wi-fi with no power how is
                                         
                                         that supposed to work i'm just thinking no no advice about that i'm thinking of susan's point
                                         
                                         about this is what would bring radio back and i'm thinking of like a nuclear apocalypse love line
                                         
                                         scenario where it's like should i date this person he has five arms and 12 eyes from the apocalypse
                                         
                                         is this relationship going to work?
                                         
    
                                         Nobody's phones work anymore.
                                         
                                         Exactly.
                                         
                                         You have to have a landline.
                                         
                                         Thank God I have one left in my house.
                                         
                                         Soul warrior vibe over at the Rumble Rad is on to it.
                                         
                                         Do what the media tells you.
                                         
                                         Really?
                                         
                                         How's that going to go over?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, that's right.
                                         
                                         So it's awful and funny and uh wow kind of like i caught my
                                         
                                         attention yesterday and i here it is it is kind of funny it's like you have to go back and do they
                                         
                                         know something is there something we should know make sure you have batteries how about we listen
                                         
                                         to media now what do you why what made you do that why did you create that thing all of a sudden
                                         
                                         you want to hear the newscaster freaking out that's what i can't wait for but i mean i think
                                         
                                         well susan has a response what are you gonna do susan i'm just running out into the
                                         
                                         sun right drew will be saving brady's lives but unless he's got a big bag of oxy or whatever then
                                         
    
                                         i i know that sounds selfish but i don't know i don't want to watch everybody die so so uh blake
                                         
                                         asked what do i mean by a different story for those using Suboxone for opioid treatment?
                                         
                                         It's just a totally different setting, right?
                                         
                                         When you're using it for pain control where opiates are out of control, it's a very different setting than treating addiction to try to reduce the risk of relapse and the consequence of relapse.
                                         
                                         Very different situation, very different goals, very different time horizons, very different dosing.
                                         
                                         So just a different thing
                                         
                                         altogether it's like saying if you're using an arb for hypertension or for heart failure
                                         
                                         very different or if you're using and we use different medicines for the for different things
                                         
    
                                         and how we use it and what we do and how we think about it's very different so that's that okay let
                                         
                                         me try to get back to okay tom cigar says we need a ham radio
                                         
                                         yeah i mean but then but the ham radios toms operate without power i mean you have no power
                                         
                                         battery operated solar radios will work unless i have a bunch of i have a bunch of actual
                                         
                                         individual solar panels that i can plug radios and stuff into so if i there's an emergency
                                         
                                         oh yeah they do have solar charges
                                         
                                         i come from a family of conspiracy theorists so i'm well prepared we were very prepared for y2k
                                         
                                         yeah well send me instructions i'll get a little kit in each one of my houses for for drew because he's going to be out saving lives all right we'll try
                                         
    
                                         let me uh look at some things here real quick i might help him
                                         
                                         you might get to the college here sorry uh jose i'm not a nurse there we are that's for sure
                                         
                                         we've tried those skills i'm great with tech stuff though yes hardware toilets tech amazing
                                         
                                         biology i can stop your toilet from leaking but you have the funniest way about even thinking about biology i didn't study it i wish i had i i really probably would have liked it speaking of
                                         
                                         heck my computer's not charging and it's going to run out shortly here
                                         
                                         uh okay so jose are you ah good you got to mute your uh unmute your mic jose and you can ask your not charging and it's going to run out shortly here. Okay, so Jose, good.
                                         
                                         You got to unmute your mic, Jose, and you can ask your question.
                                         
                                         You're still muted.
                                         
    
                                         The microphone's on the lower left-hand corner there.
                                         
                                         Gas power generator.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but if you're a nuclear holocaust in New York City, you don't have a gas power
                                         
                                         generator.
                                         
                                         Thank you, Mitre Zircon.
                                         
                                         I see your Nook's Fry electronic equipment.
                                         
                                         Okay, I'll take that.
                                         
                                         It's a serious thing, though.
                                         
    
                                         Yes, no shit.
                                         
                                         The government should send a...
                                         
                                         Insane Crazy.
                                         
                                         Insane Crazy, touche.
                                         
                                         Touche, that's all I'll say, touche.
                                         
                                         He's on to my OCD.
                                         
                                         Solar and ham radios.
                                         
                                         Oh, and lots of protection.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, well, stay put, I guess.
                                         
                                         I love the way they dress the woman speaking in her doomsday outfit.
                                         
                                         Like, she's all black from her neck down to her toes.
                                         
                                         Who's this?
                                         
                                         The woman who was in the ad.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah, yeah yeah she looked like she was
                                         
                                         going to a funeral for it so jose you're still muted there buddy i'm not uh seeing hearing
                                         
                                         anything there's a mic button on the lower left hand corner of your screen if you click that you
                                         
    
                                         should be able to speak so um oh there you are i got you you. What's happening? Not a whole lot.
                                         
                                         Actually, just took a COVID test about two hours ago and got back positive.
                                         
                                         Oh, welcome to the club.
                                         
                                         It's very kind.
                                         
                                         It's on now.
                                         
                                         R-naught of 17, man.
                                         
                                         It's going to go.
                                         
                                         It's going to go around.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, it's my second go through.
                                         
                                         So actually, I forgot I had even requested because i was going to ask the question earlier i had gotten my um initial moderna shot back in october and was going to ask if um any of
                                         
                                         the boosters were like anywhere near caught up to all the variants that have happened no no they're
                                         
                                         they're not how old are you uh 30 okay So you're young to be even thinking about this.
                                         
                                         The CDC now is recommending it. I don't really get, I think what they're leaning on is their
                                         
                                         data that shows the vaccine reduces seriousness of illness. Sort of, I think they're leaning on
                                         
                                         it as expecting it to be across the board. So it doesn't prevent infection, especially not against Omicron,
                                         
                                         but it does seem to reduce seriousness of illness.
                                         
    
                                         Now there was some data.
                                         
                                         Didn't I put it up yesterday, Caleb, that Canadian data,
                                         
                                         do you still have that?
                                         
                                         I have it.
                                         
                                         There's some data that should, that the,
                                         
                                         there's some data that specifically refutes that and actually suggests the
                                         
                                         data goes the other way.
                                         
                                         I don't know. You know, data is data data you have to be very careful when you look at
                                         
    
                                         data my sense is that the reason they're doing it is to reduce the seriousness of
                                         
                                         illness but there it is there's a data showing that you're more likely to get
                                         
                                         it more likely to die whatever I don't know it's hard data there it is I don't
                                         
                                         know it's hard what to make of that data frankly but we'll keep an eye on it uh in the meantime no it's not going to really do much for omicron but there's one coming
                                         
                                         out in this later summer in a couple of months that will so you might just wait for that yeah
                                         
                                         that's what it sounded like from when you were talking to that uh previous caller yep yep but
                                         
                                         you know now you've had omicron so you'll have hybrid immunity and is something going to come after omicron it's these
                                         
                                         are all really tough questions but i i for if you if i were you i would probably be waiting on it
                                         
    
                                         and certainly not taking anything immediately after just having had uh omicron and again it's
                                         
                                         more likely the ba5 which what everyone seems to have i just got a during here one of the reasons
                                         
                                         i was a little preoccupied um i'm not able to get one of my
                                         
                                         patients couldn't get pax of it um yeah they won't her insurance won't cover it i thought
                                         
                                         they were available for free let me make that note was available for free through the government.
                                         
                                         Let's see.
                                         
                                         I've got to get that email out.
                                         
                                         Available.
                                         
    
                                         The government.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         All right, let's see.
                                         
                                         But that's, you know, here's somebody who's really sick,
                                         
                                         needs PaxLibid.
                                         
                                         I'm having trouble getting it.
                                         
                                         That's insane, of course.
                                         
                                         Well, so Jeremy Murphy's mom got it. She's 74.. he's going to i was going to see him this week and he's going to uh florida get the packs i tried to tell him that yeah if she's
                                         
    
                                         sick i have one i have another patient that's it's 85 and not sick he already knows yeah so it depends
                                         
                                         i mean that the paxil would make sure your mouth tastes like metal. Paulina was pretty sick when she had it.
                                         
                                         I mean, she had a sore throat for like five days, so she went on the Paxilvid.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
                                         Alana, you're making a great point.
                                         
                                         She didn't test positive.
                                         
                                         Alana just made the point that actually pharmacists themselves can prescribe it.
                                         
                                         Well.
                                         
    
                                         It's true.
                                         
                                         You know, you can also get free COVID tests at the, when I went to Walgreens here in New York,
                                         
                                         they said, do you want free tests with your insurance?
                                         
                                         And I went, sure.
                                         
                                         And he goes, well, you get four each and four for your spouse.
                                         
                                         So she gave me eight free tests.
                                         
                                         Amazing.
                                         
                                         Which are just sitting there.
                                         
    
                                         But, you know, in case somebody gets it you can test
                                         
                                         every five minutes if you want yeah yeah no that was the by the way that was the other thing that
                                         
                                         fauci was saying that was so sensible in his little he was it was an msnbc interview i saw
                                         
                                         and um he was saying testing is widely available now which at the time with the thought bubble over
                                         
                                         my head when he said that was you were so right sir why the f didn't we get here quicker
                                         
                                         what it was you're right it's very important that we have this access why didn't we get here quicker
                                         
                                         now it's less important than it was back at the beginning okay but here we are uh let me try to
                                         
                                         get another call in here if i can we're gonna get monkey uh and caleb i actually have to wrap up
                                         
    
                                         and in about five minutes so a little bit early.
                                         
                                         Let me again look at what you guys are saying on the streams and the rants and everything, so hold on.
                                         
                                         So can you say, so what's the difference between the COVID tests
                                         
                                         that go in the nose and the ones that go in your throat?
                                         
                                         Because I'm 100% convinced that I had COVID a second time
                                         
                                         a couple weeks ago.
                                         
                                         It was all the exact same symptoms,
                                         
                                         but it came back negative on the nose test. I did not do a throat test, though, but I've heard that
                                         
    
                                         there could be different results from it. My wife and I both came back negative, and it was
                                         
                                         literally those same symptoms. Yeah. There can be a lot of false negatives.
                                         
                                         Some people are swabbing their throats and they think
                                         
                                         they're getting better results but let's be clear the tests weren't designed for that so that's what
                                         
                                         paulina did so it's you don't really know what she took one in her nose and then she said my friend
                                         
                                         did it at the throat so she took the second one i go oh that's the way she goes this one's positive
                                         
                                         but she had a really sore throat yeah so i don't know what to make of the throat i think the virus
                                         
                                         like attacks certain areas on different people correct um so on the rumble rant there as usual when the rumble rants a lot of kind of uh
                                         
    
                                         i don't want to be pejorative but some of the theories you guys suggest are way way out way out Here's the thing. To understand a scientific theory, you have to read widely the available literature that substantiates the theory.
                                         
                                         Not a study, not a philosophy, not a person's point of view.
                                         
                                         You have to get the primary documents.
                                         
                                         Somebody had a hypothesis.
                                         
                                         Then you test the null hypothesis. And then you do the primary documents. Somebody had a hypothesis. Then you test the null hypothesis.
                                         
                                         And then you do the statistical analysis.
                                         
                                         And then there's various versions of the similar kinds of testing done and research done.
                                         
                                         And then you start to accumulate a consensus of what you're looking at.
                                         
    
                                         And that hypothesis, which was just a thought, starts to look more like a theory.
                                         
                                         And when you can really predict the future with that theory, you are on to something. And in
                                         
                                         medicine particularly, you can not only predict the future, but then you can predict the response
                                         
                                         to treatment. Treatment is a predictable phenomenon. Or, i'm not saying that in any given case you can
                                         
                                         predict the future of the outcome but given a series of cases you can predict the profile
                                         
                                         of treatment response that will statistically develop so predicting the future so things like
                                         
                                         coax postulate if i give susan a open her wound, throw staph in there,
                                         
                                         I will get a particular reaction.
                                         
    
                                         Then I can take that staph, put it on a Petri dish, test it for antibiotic sensitivity,
                                         
                                         and then give that same antibiotic to the patient, and it gets better.
                                         
                                         That is how this works.
                                         
                                         So it gets more complicated That is how this works. So it's, you know, there's other,
                                         
                                         there gets more complicated with certain other pathogens,
                                         
                                         but we try to keep it as simple as possible.
                                         
                                         Simple as possible.
                                         
                                         Okay, let me see what's going on here with the caller.
                                         
    
                                         Sorry, sorry for that little aside.
                                         
                                         Oh, it's three, it's, you guys, it is,
                                         
                                         I actually have to break here at exactly top of the hour.
                                         
                                         And sorry for those little rants I went on that took away from the call.
                                         
                                         So be quick with your question.
                                         
                                         No, no, no.
                                         
                                         I actually literally don't have time to do that.
                                         
                                         Okay, never mind.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Let me just look at you guys on the restream and on the rumble and see if there's anything I can respond to.
                                         
                                         We'll be back tomorrow, though.
                                         
                                         Yes, we'll be back tomorrow.
                                         
                                         We have a guest tomorrow
                                         
                                         yes
                                         
                                         but at the normal time
                                         
                                         which is
                                         
    
                                         3 o'clock
                                         
                                         3 p.m. Pacific
                                         
                                         6 p.m. Eastern
                                         
                                         guest is Brian Dunkelman
                                         
                                         there he is
                                         
                                         the guy who
                                         
                                         left American Idol
                                         
                                         well he
                                         
    
                                         I don't know if he left
                                         
                                         I'm sure he's sick
                                         
                                         of telling the story
                                         
                                         but
                                         
                                         we were talking about this
                                         
                                         the other day
                                         
                                         all the people
                                         
                                         who passed on like I remember was it Stryker?
                                         
    
                                         Stryker passed on American Idol too because it was too pop.
                                         
                                         He thought it was lame.
                                         
                                         He thought it was lame, yeah.
                                         
                                         But this guy I thought was, this guy was into it.
                                         
                                         He was just sort of dismissed.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I think Ryan just overshadowed him.
                                         
                                         So there we are.
                                         
                                         Well, I don't know what happened.
                                         
    
                                         Ryan's an amazing host.
                                         
                                         Yeah, he is.
                                         
                                         But he was just a disc jockey at that point,
                                         
                                         and I had a conversation with him the first season.
                                         
                                         He says, I can't believe I have this job.
                                         
                                         I said, you remind me of Rick Dees a lot.
                                         
                                         And he goes, oh, I hope I make a lot of money like him.
                                         
                                         And I go, I said, listen, I go, just be professional.
                                         
    
                                         Show up early.
                                         
                                         Like, don't mess with him. and potential kovat gene alteration through their viral load or stem
                                         
                                         cell assisted vaccines patient history with catching alpha and omicron unnatural full bloom
                                         
                                         I'm not sure I meant getting your question Aaron viral lotus potential and gene alteration well
                                         
                                         always with viral illness right there can be gene intercalation and there can be gene regulation issues. I mean, that's the ultimate
                                         
                                         goal of a virus is to get in our genome and go on forever, right? That's the goal of the virus. They
                                         
                                         find a way into us to get us to keep, to coexist with us and then replicate with us in such a way.
                                         
                                         I mean, I think a lot of the progress of evolution is viruses getting inside of the genome and changing, changing what happens, right? I mean, we, we do that with, uh,
                                         
    
                                         with our technologies now. Uh, and so that's, you know, we use a bacterial technology more
                                         
                                         commonly with the CRISPR, but the viruses do the same thing. And, uh, yeah, there's always that
                                         
                                         potential. I don't think the virus has been able to do that yet. And usually the virus, when the
                                         
                                         viruses get to the point where they can do that that they're benign because whatever they're producing coexist with us
                                         
                                         uh all right uh um oh thank you minor zircon again appreciate it uh speak to viva fray he
                                         
                                         escaped canada okay if you have a fry uh let me just look at some of your other questions. I don't know who that is, but I'm going to have to. The other COVID pill, not the Paxil. The Molnupiravir,
                                         
                                         Rebecca. Molnupiravir isn't as effective. I think about giving it to people as a prophylactic agent
                                         
                                         if they've been exposed to somebody. That's mostly where it seems to have utility, though I have not
                                         
    
                                         prescribed it yet, but I think it is a good medication. The data on it look pretty good
                                         
                                         internationally. Okay. And then quickly over to the Rble rants you guys i don't want to leave you
                                         
                                         guys out thank you um soul warrior for the godspeed uh sensible breakfast theory do viruses
                                         
                                         come from or do virus come from within as a means of detox are any studies indicating virus is being
                                         
                                         detected with me i don't know what you're getting at you guys i don't ask you don't get your questions sometimes but um viruses are uh extraordinary
                                         
                                         little uh i guess we could call them an organism technically and i do believe they a lot of them
                                         
                                         come from outer space that's why people freak out about us going to mars or when an asteroid lands i
                                         
                                         think stuff gets into the biosphere here via the outer space.
                                         
    
                                         And why shouldn't it?
                                         
                                         It's been around for trillions of years and their viruses ubiquitously,
                                         
                                         and they survive through everything.
                                         
                                         They're going to be around and changing and trying to survive in environments,
                                         
                                         not just our own, it seems to me, but who am I to say?
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         So thank you so much for being here, buddy.
                                         
                                         We appreciate it.
                                         
    
                                         I just bought the Z stack.
                                         
                                         What's the Z stack? The Zev everybody. We appreciate it. I just bought the Z-Stack. What's the Z-Stack?
                                         
                                         The Zev Zlinko Z-Stack.
                                         
                                         I did.
                                         
                                         I'm going to use it.
                                         
                                         All right, good.
                                         
                                         It's good.
                                         
                                         Because you know what?
                                         
    
                                         I want to take two pills a day and have all my vitamins covered.
                                         
                                         Look, I take the equivalent.
                                         
                                         I don't take the zinc anymore, but I take the D and the C and some other minerals.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but it's all in one pill.
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         That's fine.
                                         
                                         Well, two.
                                         
                                         You have to take two a day.
                                         
    
                                         All right, that's fine. That's not bad. We'll be on Gutfeld pill. I know. That's fine. Well, two. You have to take two a day. All right.
                                         
                                         That's fine.
                                         
                                         We'll be on Gutfeld tonight.
                                         
                                         Thank you all for your support.
                                         
                                         Everybody tune in to Gutfeld tonight.
                                         
                                         The topics are similar to some of the stuff
                                         
                                         we were talking about here today.
                                         
                                         The number one late night show in television.
                                         
    
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         Funny.
                                         
                                         Really funny and fun.
                                         
                                         Whisk Chris is out there.
                                         
                                         Tyrus is going to be on.
                                         
                                         Tyrus.
                                         
                                         Kat's going to be on.
                                         
                                         We're going to have dinner with them afterwards.
                                         
    
                                         Whisk Chris is out pressure cleaning her driveway, Susan. I know. That's so therapeutic. I need to be on. Tyrus. Kat's going to be on. We're going to have dinner with them afterwards. And Wiz Chris is out pressure cleaning her driveway, Susan.
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         That's so therapeutic.
                                         
                                         I need to do that.
                                         
                                         Thank you, Erin.
                                         
                                         We don't have any water in California, though.
                                         
                                         We're not allowed to.
                                         
                                         That's true.
                                         
    
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         I've got to rush out here.
                                         
                                         Appreciate it.
                                         
                                         We'll be at 3 o'clock tomorrow with Brian Dunkelman.
                                         
                                         And hope to see you all then.
                                         
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