Barn Talk - Barn Talk Hot Topics: Twitter vs. Threads, Sound of Freedom Censorship & AI Dilemmas

Episode Date: July 24, 2023

Welcome to Barn Talk! What happens at the barn, stays in the barn, but not today! We’re letting it all out. In this episode we discuss the dilemmas with AI, Threads vs. Twitter and the Sound of Free...dom controversy.   Buy Our Pork From Our Farm ➱ https://farmergrade.com Barn Talk Merch! 👇🏻 https://www.thislldo.co/  SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST ➱ https://bit.ly/3a7r3nR   SUBSCRIBE TO THIS’LL DO FARM ➱ https://bit.ly/2X8g45c  SUBSCRIBE TO BARN TALK CLIPS ➱ https://bit.ly/3BlZnqq   LISTEN ON: SPOTIFY ➱ https://open.spotify.com/show/3icVr4KWq4eUDl7Oy60YMY  ITUNES ➱ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/barn-talk/id1574395049 Follow Behind The Scenes👇🏻 ● This’ll Do Farm Instagram ➱ https://bit.ly/30KPBNk   ● Barn Talk TikTok ➱ https://bit.ly/3qciekS   ● Sawyer’s Instagram  ➱ https://bit.ly/3BtX0n4   ● Tork’s Instagram ➱ https://bit.ly/3LGZJxS    ------------------------------- ***PLEASE NOTE*** Barn Talk is a significant break from the typical content viewers have come to expect from This’ll Do Farm. Please be advised that we will be exploring a wide variety of topics (some adult-themed) and our younger viewers (and their parents) should be advised that some topics will be for mature audiences only. ⚠NO FINANCIAL ADVICE / DISCLAIMER⚠  The Information discussed and shared on Barn Talk is provided for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes only, without any express or implied warranty of any kind, including warranties of accuracy, completeness, or success for any particular purpose. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All of the food we eat and much of the clothing we wear comes from plants and animals that are raised on farms. Farms are different in type, in size, and even in name. Welcome to Barn Talk. What happens at the barn stays in the barn, but not today. We're going to let it all out for you guys. It's hotter than a hot pocket today, and the topics are pretty hot, and we're going to try our best to not burn the roof of your mouth. So stay tuned because the topics are going to be real, real, they're going to be steaming. But before we get into it, you guys know the drill. If you get any value from the show, pay the fee. Share it out your friends, family, co-workers, employees, whoever. The more of you guys share the show, the better guests we can get
Starting point is 00:00:54 on, the better content we can make, the more content we can make. So thank you to all that have paid the fee and continue to do that. You can also leave a review on Spotify or Apple. We're up to 1.4 Spotify reviews, and we're up to 540-something on Apple. So Apple, you've got to get up to a thousand that's our goal right now for uh apple reviews um i also wanted to say before we get into torques real hot nice market update that uh thank you to all that bought or supported farmer grade on our first uh launch uh we completely sold out and i appreciate every single one of you guys for listen to the story of farmer grade sharing your thoughts and feedback and for those of you that went on the site and bought a box from bottom of my heart i really do appreciate it a lot of
Starting point is 00:01:40 sweating tears went into it and we're looking to just keep keep her going and keep growing it so thank you thank you thank you for those that uh supported us on that that was that's touching got gotta give them got to give them their probs man i uh i just enjoyed some farmer grade pork chops just about three nights ago and they were awesome they were damn good video on probably on farmer grade and this will do uh of torx pork chop recipe coming soon we're gonna try to get by the time the box is shipped we're going to try to get by the time the box is shipped we're going to try to have some content of how do you cook this delicious pork that you got from Farmer Grade? So just another project we're adding to the list.
Starting point is 00:02:20 So I'm fresh, fresh off of Chorin this morning. It was a good Chorn day. Did you have a good Chorn day? I'm fresh too. I smell ripe. Well, nothing was wrong. There were no catastrophes. So I feel pretty good about that.
Starting point is 00:02:35 And usually that doesn't happen on a Friday or Saturday. If anything is going to go wrong, it usually goes wrong. Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Mostly Sunday. Yeah, Sunday is usually the prime day. Sunday fix it, baby. But today, good day. We got a good rain.
Starting point is 00:02:53 We got over an inch of rain here three days ago, maybe. Corn's looking good, beans are looking good, beans are finally covering the row, only about a month late for that. Corn is Taslin. Fair week here in southeast Iowa. Kea Kuk County Fair is going on right now, and our local fair starts next week. So there's a lot of stressed out parents out there running around, making eight trips to the hardware store to get
Starting point is 00:03:21 whatever they need, you know, to get ready to take their livestock to the fair. And so next week will be guaranteed either blazing hot or a torrential downpour or all of that, because that's usually what happens during the fair. So without a further ado, the market update today, corn, and this is yesterday's close, corn is up seven cents the last time I checked, but the local prices are from yesterday. Corn 593. Eddieville had a $598 bid through the 22nd, and the best price I could find local was $5.79, Beans 1518, 1508 at Burlington, 1528 on the other side of the river. Wheat 625, beanmeal, 430 blazing dollars a ton.
Starting point is 00:04:17 And hogs, hogs, $102, that's on the August, that's on the August month because we switched. Feeder cattle, $245, $100, weight, regular fat cow. Fat cattle, $176, crude oil, $77, Bitcoin, $31,600. It's up. So all of the Bitcoin miners that I saw data from, their production was all down for June, and the price is up, and most miners are holding as much Bitcoin as they can. So in other words, they're not selling any more than they have to. so that and the fact that Black Rock and somebody else are in the process of getting ETFs
Starting point is 00:05:11 means Bitcoin supply is tight even though consumer price index came out the other day and it was lower and I'll just touch on that for a minute that was kind of a big deal in the fact that the worst month we had for inflation was last year in June. June last year's consumer price index 9%. That was when inflation was blazing hot. This month, compared to last month, it was actually down. Last month, 4%, this month, 3%. So that made everybody feel better. Everybody thinks the Fed is still going to raise interest rates, but I think the stock market feels better about things. And we could do a whole other deal about how the Fed is, is kind of band-aiding all these banks, but we won't do that today.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Ethereum, just shy of $2,000 for Ethereum. I think that's the highest. That's been a long time. Tesla, $280. Tesla's pretty much kicking everybody's ass in the EV field. I won't go off on that. And meta, $313 a share. And the reason I quoted meta is because I hadn't really paid attention to this,
Starting point is 00:06:28 but I looked at the chart the other day. and I don't think you could find a more perfect up trending chart over a year's time than what meta is. And they were, I did not realize this, but they were basically $90 a share last November. And they closed yesterday at $313 a share. That's pretty impressive. And part of they've been up lately, and we're going to talk about it, because one of their hot new products is threads. threads and they're they're competing directly with twitter and we're going to see a cage match at
Starting point is 00:07:06 Elon and Zuckerberg maybe yes supposedly you know I'm I'm a big I'm a more big of a fan of Elon than I am Zuck but I'll have to say Zuckerberg knows Jiu-Jitsu and I've seen he's hanging out with some UFC fighters and I think he's getting taught all the moves he needs to have so he can kick Musk's ass, but it would make some damn good entertainment value for sure. Neither one of them to me seem like they're incredibly flexible.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Zuckerberg, I'm sure, much more than Musk. But Zuckerberg's not exactly what I would say built. Well, you must have not seen the most recent picture him standing next to two UFC fighters. But they've been feeding him Tiger Blood or something? Well, they've probably been feeding him a little bit of TRT,
Starting point is 00:07:57 I would assume. getting some testosterone and he's been putting on some weight. He looks pretty good. He looks shredded. And I always see videos of him on the water skiing and wakeboarding and surfing. He's always fighting in jujitsu. I don't know how he must have some damn good execs at meta to run everything. But he enjoys his life, it looks like.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Age is definitely on his side, isn't it? Oh, yeah. He's a good 10 years ago at Elon. Oh, yeah. I'd say maybe 15, 20 years. Yeah. I don't know for sure, but I know that he started, when did he start Facebook? He was in college.
Starting point is 00:08:35 He was probably 19 or 20. Yeah. When he started Facebook. Elon's my age. Elon's 51 or 52. Yeah, I think that, I think it'd make great entertainment. It's something that's different because usually we have, you know, the Logan Pauls and the Jake Pauls of the world that are trying to fight fighters that are out of their prime or whatever and they make a whole thing.
Starting point is 00:08:56 but this new like, hey, two entrepreneurs that are really successful facing off, that, I don't know, that'd be kind of cool to see. Anything for the ratings. Oh, yeah. And I think that they both gain a lot of, you know, publicity. And maybe people would hate Zuckerberg less because there's a lot of people that hate Zuckerberg because of the whole, you know, privacy and data and all that. And maybe it's a good thing for him to try to relate to the public a little bit.
Starting point is 00:09:24 A little bit. Zuckerberg does not do a good job of speaking to the common man. Any time that he's ever been. Well, he's not very common. And I mean, Elon's not either, but Elon does a way better job of trying to relate to the common man. Or cracking jokes. Everybody knows he's a smart-ass guy, but he's kind of a smart ass with his wit. And that's kind of what people like him.
Starting point is 00:09:48 So, threads launched. Yep. 10 days ago? I don't know if it was 10 days. I think it's, I don't know. I think I downloaded it Monday or Sunday. I can't remember of this week. It is basically a clone to Twitter.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Looks very similar, acts very similar. The one thing I will say is that meta made it very simple. So is it, have they gotten to, what, 70 million users? Last time I looked and it was like the second day that it was out was that 30 million, but their goal was to get to over 100 million and then get it to a billion users. And it probably is close to that 100 million now, I would think. And I think the reason that it's grown so fast is just what you're alluding to now is it's so easy to set up. It's so easy to set up a threads account because it is connected to your Instagram account.
Starting point is 00:10:45 You can jump back and forth from threads to Instagram seamlessly and you can copy. and paste your bio, your profile picture, your name, your username, all, like, it literally gives you the option when you create your profile. Do you want to just like follow everybody you follow on Instagram? Yes. Do you copy and paste your bio, your photo, your name? Yes. And so it's just been super easy to do and then also, um, or to set up and then also every single Instagram profile that has a threads account. If you go to their Instagram and look at their profile, there's this weird like icon in the top part of their profile where their bio is and it's like their thread number and if you click that it'll take you to their threads account so i think it's spread like wow they've
Starting point is 00:11:29 done a good job of making it really seamless and easy to make a threads account and to access threads so that's why i think it's ramped up so fast so the only thing you have to do is download the app yep everything else if you have instagram the rest of it seems if you're pretty easy if you can work your iphone pretty quick you could set up an account in less than five minutes, probably two and a half minutes, honestly. So, and I'll just give you my thoughts on it. Dad alluded to it. Yeah, Twitter, it's kind of a, we're going to get into that of how it's kind of a copy and pace of Twitter, I think. But as a creator, uh, and we're on a lot of platforms, you know, we're on TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and we do this podcast. Adding another,
Starting point is 00:12:14 another, another, uh, platform to mix. It's really hard to try to be on all of them. We're not even, that active on Twitter. And it's just, it gives me, not anxiety, but just gives me another like, oh boy, here we go. I got to look at another platform, keep my eyes on another platform. The one thing I don't get about threads, and I think it hurts Instagram,
Starting point is 00:12:34 I don't know, I don't know how to feel about it. Maybe I want to get your guys as two cents on it, but you can post videos on threads up to five minutes. You can post pictures, and you can write, a thread like you can write a tweet on Twitter. And it's just, it's basically Twitter. But I'm like, okay, you made it so seamless and so connected to your Instagram, but then you can post videos on it. Like if they were going to go the route of, well, we're just going to use threads as written word,
Starting point is 00:13:07 written word, right? And it was going to be just another element of Instagram where you can't just write written word. You have to post a picture of video. That I understand. But then making it so that you can post videos and pictures on there. It's like, well, isn't that just taking away from Instagram? Because I'm looking at it as somebody that, hey, this is a new platform. You could probably have some pretty good organic reach on there. But what do you post? Do you tweet or do you, create a thread? Do you post, do I take the videos that we're already posting on everything else and put it on threads? Does that dilute? Does that take away from what we're doing on Instagram if we're going to just do it on threads as well? And if it's the same audience, the same people that are
Starting point is 00:13:46 following you from threads or from Instagram or following you on threads. I don't know. I feel really weird about it. I don't know how to feel about it as a creator creating on threads. Right now, we haven't done very much on it just because I don't know what to do, to be honest with you. And I'm just kind of looking at the landscape of how people are using it. But honestly, I don't know, I don't know how to feel about it. Yeah. So I think that's the question is, one, does threads create something new that brings a different audience because to what you said if all they're doing is getting everybody that's already in their ecosystem everybody that's in Facebook and Instagram if they're getting them to sign up aren't you just diluting your audience that you
Starting point is 00:14:41 already have so in other words if you're meta if you're not bringing people over from Twitter or bringing people over from TikTok or snap or whatever, then is it really a gain? Is it taken away from Facebook and Instagram? Right. Because if it is, you've just added an expense to your ecosystem and you haven't really gotten any gain out of it. I think that there probably are seeing some people that are strictly just used Twitter coming over just to check it out.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Because it is a lot like Twitter. Yep. And so for people that use Twitter a lot, I'm sure they've came over to threads and checked it out. And I don't know if they're posting what they post on Twitter and posted it on threads. I'm just not a big Twitter guy. I'm not great at written word. I'm not a great writer. So I'm not very witty. And so that's why we don't use Twitter that much. But yeah, I agree with you. I think the only, like I was just going to say TikTok, when they came out, they were doing something revolutionary in the social media space. They did something completely different. The For You page, everybody else followed after TikTok created
Starting point is 00:15:49 the everything that you see is going to be tailored for you and your interests. And it's not going to be based on who you follow. Obviously, there's a following tab on TikTok as well. But most of the time, everybody spends their time on the For You page, depending on how you interact with videos. And so everybody else followed that. But now, Fred's, yeah, they're not really changing. They're not mixing anything up. There's not adding anything new into the mix. And so that gets into, well, so Twitter versus threads. Like what is, some people are saying is threads going to overthrow Twitter? And you brought up some good points about this.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah. So the talk that I've heard from the people that I follow is that, so what makes Twitter unique is the fact that I would say it's the most, it's a pretty focused platform and it's not for the fainted heart when you want to talk about business or politics and the people that are on there that those two subjects are their primary what they want to share the most about i don't feel like that they're going to enjoy threads because if you get that crowd coming over from instagram are sharing pictures of their dog talking about the rager that they went to last weekend or
Starting point is 00:17:16 given restaurant recommendations the people your heart your your your main users of twitter they're not interested in that kind of stuff which has kind of made twitter what it is in the fact that it's i would say among the platforms twitter's definitely more business oriented uh industry focused in other words you you know, there's ag Twitter, and I'm sure there's every other kind of groups within Twitter that are focused on their industry. And then politics, a big amount of politics, and the sharing of ideas happens on Twitter. And I don't think those groups necessarily will play well, or not that they won't play well, but I just don't think they're that interested in
Starting point is 00:18:03 seeing that kind of content. So I guess, you know, time will tell. The other thing that's really interesting, I did a little digging on this, and Twitter or threads was built. So meta built threads in basically eight to nine months, and they had a core group of programmers of like 20 people. And I mean, they were laser focused on getting it done and getting it up and running. and I'm pretty sure there's a lawsuit either filed. Wasn't there a lawsuit, a cease-a-diss? I'm not 100% sure. I know Elon put something on Twitter alluding to
Starting point is 00:18:47 there might be a potential lawsuit because he talked about how it's... It's one thing when you take an idea and build upon it, but it's another one it's pretty much copy and paste. And threads, it's pretty much copy and paste. There's not a lot. The only element that they did different is connecting the end. Instagram two threads and making it seamless. Other than that, it's very similar. So time's just
Starting point is 00:19:11 going to tell. And I honestly, full disclosure, I have only looked at it. I haven't posted anything on it. So, and I, I'm with you. We, I feel like there's a lot of potential with Twitter and any of you that follow us know that somewhat inconsistently I will post like a clip when we're getting ready to shoot a podcast or we post some of our content on Twitter but we haven't done it consistently we need to do a better job of it but it's it's a lot unless you for us and we talk about this a lot you know unless you have a social media manager that they are their task is making sure everyone everything gets posted every day. We are the social media managers.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Yeah, we're working to get somebody to be able to do that. But when you're the one posting it all on everything, and you live in rural America with... Low-speed internet. I mean, Starlink is definitely an upgrade from what we did have, but still takes a minute versus if you have fiber. But it just takes a while. And that's a lot of time to sit there and just...
Starting point is 00:20:28 wait and hope and just letting your clips upload. So I would just want to say one thing about what you're talking about with Twitter and how I think Twitter is more of a serious platform. And that's, I think that's why people go on Twitter. I know I go on Twitter to see what's happening on politics, to see what's, I follow a lot of business people on there that give a lot of written word content. You know, they make, they make threads on Twitter of, you know, that's what they call it a thread. when they have multiple tweets inside a tweet. And you get a lot of value out of that. It's more serious.
Starting point is 00:21:05 It's more focused. And sometimes it's just nice to have a change up from just constantly getting short-form video. I think that's what makes Twitter great. There's videos on there, but the threads is what's cool about it, and it's serious. And you get to actually, like, debate people.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And what's also great about Twitter that might be working against threads is it's a free speech platform. It's been a free speech platform. And back to Zuckerberg, how many people trust that threads is going to be a free speech platform? I don't know. But I know damn well
Starting point is 00:21:39 that we can probably post this podcast on Twitter and have no red flags, nothing. But if we posted the threads and we do hot topics like we are right now and we got political, I don't know if they'd flag us or not or shadow ban us or you know, not allow us to reach as many people.
Starting point is 00:21:55 but Twitter is kind of open world. Like you can post whatever you want. So that's what I want out of that platform is if threads is going to be how Instagram and Facebook have been when it comes to censorship, censorship, that's going to hurt them. And that's just going to make Twitter even stronger. So, yeah, it's up in the air. Those are our thoughts about it. Let us know what your guys' thoughts are on threads.
Starting point is 00:22:23 What do you think? Is it going to last? Is it going to make it? Can it take down Twitter? You know, kind of what you think about it? Because we're still trying to figure it out, but that's all we got on it so far. Time will tell. And since we're already on the subject of tech, we're going to talk about AI.
Starting point is 00:22:43 And AI continues to chomp away at the world. Scare the shit out of people. There's a lot going on. It's fast. It changes fast. I think people do not realize, we've said this on here many times. the rate of change and the rate that this is coming is way faster than what people are even like some people don't even have it on their radar and you need to have it on your radar because
Starting point is 00:23:09 AI is coming it's here and it is moving rapidly it is it is evolving rapidly uh and so just keep it on your radar yeah i i won't jump ahead but there's one there's one innovation that uh OpenAI, who is the maker of chat GTP that they've come out with. I mean, it's kind of crazy how many people... GPT. GPT, did I say GTP? Yeah. That's because I think of STP.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Yeah. There's too many, you know... I could be wrong. I got to look it up, but... You had STP, and then you had Stone Temple Pilots, and now you got chat GPT, GPC. GPT. GPT. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:53 See, I can't. Yeah, I don't, I don't know. But, you know, today the leaders in this are OpenAI, Google who their AI search bot is called Bard. And then Microsoft is playing in that. And Microsoft actually partnered with chat, and they have a product using their Bing, and their Bing is partnered with chat to give you, to give you search and Bard and Bing compete against each other and then Meta obviously is playing big time in that and then Tesla and Tesla in a little bit of a different
Starting point is 00:24:39 way in the fact that they don't have an AI Interface out there running but their supercomputer they built Dojo it's it's it's goal is to be, you know, the premier machine learning AI, I don't know, monster. They're going to use it for, they're using it to scale the training of their full self-driving. They're using it to scale the scale, the training of their bot they're doing, but then you can't forget about Elon's implant Neurrelink. And Neurrelink is, that's pretty scary. That's 100% AI interfacing AI with the human mind, which, ooh, I don't know where that's going to go. I don't know the more, I don't know
Starting point is 00:25:37 how I stand on that morally, the whole Neurolink thing, because it's like, God made us to be who we all. and at that point you're kind of playing God. That's right. And it's that, but it's at the same time, it's like, if everybody puts this chip in their head and they're, like, I almost feel like you're going to get left behind. If everybody puts the fucking chip in your head, the only way that you're going to make it or having it,
Starting point is 00:26:03 have it a chance to make it or be ahead or try to get ahead is you got to put this fucking chip in your head. And it's like, I don't know how I stand on that morally. Hopefully, at my lifetime, I could say the same. shit that you say to me, I can say to my kids. Ain't going to matter. I don't got to worry about it. I don't have to worry about it.
Starting point is 00:26:21 But the way that it's going, I, fuck, I don't know. You are going to be some pissed when I get that chip and then I get Jedi mind powers and I can say things to you like, you should just chore all the pigs today. And you just go, I think I should chore all the pigs today. Yeah. Then you're going to be pissed that you did get it. Yeah, I will be pissed. I'll probably go get it then.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I'd probably go get it then. Oh, you won't know. You won't know. And then we'd be trying to do it to each other. You're perfectly happy. We'd just be sitting there. We'd just be sitting there doing it. No, I was going to say, so pretty much all, everybody's trying to get on the AI train.
Starting point is 00:26:55 They're all trying to make these, they're trying to make what chats doing, essentially. They're trying to have this software that you type in a prompt. It goes through all this information on the internet, and it finds what it thinks is the best answer for your prompt and provides it to you, right? that's what it all does but there's a few of them out there that are one they're not seeing from what we've got on this outline they're not seeing the growth or the usage that they initially thought they would see from people and two some of them are finding themselves in some potential lawsuits due to uh copyright so touch on that a little bit yeah and i guess one thing i'll add which I think is the most serious problem as far as our society goes.
Starting point is 00:27:49 So OpenAI has formed a task force within their company, and it's headed by their two best AI specialists. And we touched on this the last time we talked about AI, but in that industry, there's something called alignment. And alignment is a big issue. And what that comes down to is as you build, as you build artificial intelligence, and you train these systems to where they start thinking for themselves, how do you ensure that their thoughts, their rationalization, their priorities align.
Starting point is 00:28:47 So that's where the alignment comes from. Align with what human, what a human moral compass is, what our priorities are. And that's the whole, that's the whole Terminator scenario. That's the whole Skynet scenario, is that at some point we get machine learning,
Starting point is 00:29:07 general intelligence to a point where that system is smart enough to think for itself and it realizes, or thanks for whatever reason that the biggest threat it has to its existence is all of us. That's a really bad deal. So alignment is a big issue within this world,
Starting point is 00:29:28 and the problem is you have these different companies that are playing in this space, and they're not necessarily aligned with each other. In other words, there's no... Well, they're all competing for market share, and then when you're doing that, it's like any business. A lot of people, they scale business and then they figure out, they solved the problems that
Starting point is 00:29:50 they came along the way. They weren't huge problems, but we got to our objective. Now let's go back and let's try to put out some little fires. It's the same way with this. They are trying to move, they're trying to get adoption. Yep. They're trying to become the premier AI software. And I'm sure that they aren't being 100% mindful. They might tell us, that they're being 100% mindful of AI alignment and everything that they're putting into this AI machine learning is great and it's got this many people that validate it and all that. But when you're going for scale, you're moving fast and you might overlook a few things. And when you overlook something that you basically, if it's a big enough mistake that they make,
Starting point is 00:30:38 you can't put Pandora back in the box. That's the fear of it is that you, you start something that you can't unravel. But I lost a whole afternoon yesterday going down the rabbit hole on this. And there's a couple of really interesting things going on. For one, there's a lawsuit going on against chat, against OpenAI. And the nutshell of it is that two authors have filed a lawsuit. against OpenAI because some user of chat basically created a novel. They put in the idea, they gave chat the idea of a story,
Starting point is 00:31:31 and chat basically gave them the written word, and they had it published. And the story that was written is very, very, very, very, very similar to a novel, to literature that had already been written by these authors. And their claim is that because their works had been used to train the AI, to train chat, that they basically have plagiarized their works. Well, so the whole, the lawsuit throws up the question. When something's created using AI, who owns the rights to it?
Starting point is 00:32:22 So is it the person that asks the quarry, asked the question that creates the content? Is it the company that wrote the software that created the AI, in this case, OpenAI? Or is it the authors of the literature that have been fed into the system to train the AI? So, or is it the person that wrote the prompt? Yeah, right, exactly. There's, it's, yeah, it's confusing. It's very confusing. Well, it's, and it's, it's something, and it's, it's like we're seeing it in the music industry, too.
Starting point is 00:32:52 There's these guys. Oh, yeah. Like this new Drake, if any of you listen to rap music, Drake, there's this Drake song that was created by a guy named Ghost Rider. And it's called, I can't remember what it was called, but it's called, the guy's name was Ghost Rider. and he took Drake's voice using AI, made a beat, put Drake's AI voice over it with lyrics that he made, created the song, and it fucking exploded. Everybody loved it. Everybody loved it.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Got taken down by iTunes everywhere. You can't even stream it anywhere. You can maybe try to find an okay version on SoundCloud. But there's a lot of shit like this that's happening that it's just unfamiliar waters that we got a, we got a, we got. got to try to figure out and who's liable, who's not. Who owns the rights? Who owns the rights? Who doesn't own the rights? It's a weird game we're going to play. And lawyers are going to make a lot of money. I know that. So I made the comment, one of the unforeseen consequences of chat that I saw was that, you know, you can ask,
Starting point is 00:34:04 you can ask it to make you a real estate contract. You can ask it to make some type of a lease. So basically my thought was AI is going to get to the point where you really, everybody talked about how the loss of jobs, you know, that all these workers are going to be put out of business and people think of like robotics and factory workers being put out of business. No, the people that are going to get put out of business are accountants, lawyers that do real estate law and just do your mundane stuff of writing rental contracts, real estate contracts, employment contracts, stuff like that. Well, why have your local po-dunk lawyer write this when I can just have chat write me a contract that has been learned by, you know, umpteen law firms that it's soaked up all this data? and copywriters, and we'll get into this, code writers, like for writing software. Those are the people that are going to be affected first. And this kind of plate, but then when you have this, think about how many lawsuits could potentially happen when people start thinking, oh, well, you've stolen, you've plagiarized
Starting point is 00:35:22 my work. And that takes us to our... Well, but then you think about it, though, are those people going to go, well, I'm going to write up a lawsuit using chat to sue this person? Probably not. They're probably going to go to a lawyer. I mean, I think it's still to, like people probably are doing legal contracts through chat if they're good enough. But I think you have to be competent enough to know law. True. But I think as we get to version 50 of chat, then yeah, I mean, it's going to be a
Starting point is 00:35:49 foregone conclusion that that happens. I just think it's interesting that what you got to, do we have a stat on here of the adoption rate of it? Or do we just say that? No. And people just aren't using it as much as what they thought, which I think is interesting. And we always talk about it on here, you know, for so long, we've just been, anytime the new gadget comes out, we just accept it. Society has just said, yes, yes, yes, yes. And I think we're coming to this point where people are more open to the idea of saying no to every new thing that comes out. and you saw it with meta's virtual goggles.
Starting point is 00:36:28 I think most people don't want to sit in their fucking house all day and be in a virtual world, and the market showed that. Most people didn't want to. I mean, Apple just came out with their virtual goggles set, and we'll see how that plays out. But same thing with this. Maybe people are not using this as much because they're afraid of AI, and they know the consequences of it,
Starting point is 00:36:51 and they want to keep real humans employed, and they're going to take a stand and say, we're going to be a human business. We're not going to play in the AI field. I know, I know, like, I know Andy Fursela, I listen to him a lot. He's got a stance on AI. He's anti-AI. Like, he doesn't like it.
Starting point is 00:37:10 He thinks that the foregone conclusion is what you said, Terminator, scenario, and that we should be very fucking mindful about it. And he's not going to just get rid of people in his side his company for AI. and I'm sure there's some more people out there like that. Well, one of the biggest people that will say that we're going way too fast to this is Elon Musk. Yep. And, I mean, he owns an AI company and he's all about it.
Starting point is 00:37:36 And his whole mindset is that they have, he feels that it's his responsibility to be at the cutting edge of it to be able to combat it if needed, is his idea. And you can believe that or not. But the other example I was going to give you that I hadn't thought anything about this was, and this has to do with both Bard and Chats' integration with Bing. So there is a lawsuit that has been filed because someone or multiple people, whatever, they were asking chat through the Bing interface, to show them articles about some subject. And as you know, if you search on Google or whatever,
Starting point is 00:38:30 and you're looking for an article about something, a lot of times it'll take you to a website, and there'll be an article there. However, you have to subscribe to that website. Let's use the Wall Street Journal for an example. And you can only see that if you are a subscriber. But we also know that there's plenty of people out there that so I'm a subscriber and I get the article and then I copy and paste the article because I think
Starting point is 00:38:56 it's really interesting part of it or all of it or whatever and I put it on my I put it on my Instagram or I put it on Twitter or I put a link to it whatever well people were using chat and Bing to find articles about what and the the AI is good enough that yet it probably went to that site, but then it found somebody else that had put that article up that had paid for it or found some way around it, and then they brought that result to you. So in other words, you were able to read this article, this work without paying this subscription. You're getting a premium content for free. For free. And so they filed for copyright infringement. And so that, you know that brings up a whole new deal because in that case the a i was smart enough to circumvent
Starting point is 00:39:54 the subscription service well nobody wants that happening um so it's just a lot it's going to create a whole new can of worms legally and all that's going to have to get sorted out i'm sure there's a guy out trying to figure out how you can get past only fans girl subscription subscription that He's like, give me the pictures past the subscription. AI, give me, give me, give me that. How do I? Yeah, there's some guy out there probably doing it. Yep, that's usually the early adopters.
Starting point is 00:40:24 And that's just, I mean, that's the scary thing as far as like a content creator, you know. We all got to be aware of it and like deep fakes, like this new, when they start coming out with AI art and being able to make AI, like I saw an article of a guy that made or a woman, I don't know if it was a woman or a woman or, guy, but they made a virtual girlfriend for guys using all AI. The pictures were AI, the voice was AI, everything was AI, and they were just making bank off of these guys that were talking to this virtual girl that was all generated through AI. And yeah, it's just scary. As a creator, you got to be, we got to try to, we got to be mindful of just looking out for that stuff because you could have people that just copyright what we do or take what we do or, you know, and they could post it and use it as theirs. So it's something to be on the lookout for. And I think
Starting point is 00:41:21 anybody that makes any kind of content, written word articles, blog posts, video, photo, something to be mindful of for sure. Something else that we talked about, or we haven't talked about on here, but there was this thing going on on TikTok about there was these scammers out there that would take this is the scary part about the internet they took a woman's a girl's voice from her video put it and used AI transcribed it i don't know fine-tuned it then found the phone number of the mother of that girl and called her and used the girl's AI voice that they took from her one of her videos and said that she was being held captive and that the mom's got to pay so much money to let her free and wire it to the you know fucking scamming her and that's the scary part about
Starting point is 00:42:19 AI right there because there again you put yourself out there on the internet and some scammer can go into one of your videos to transcribe your voice fine tune it and call your fucking mom and try scamming you your family out of money that's scary and that's There's a lot of shit like that that, I don't know what you think. I don't know how you stop that, but have a safe word is what people are saying. Have a safe word within your family unit that when you have, if anybody ever tries calling you and scamming you out of money, you can ask him, okay, well, what's for dinner? And if they don't say, the AI voice doesn't say what's for dinner or whatever the fuck the code name is or code phrase that you have,
Starting point is 00:43:04 then, you know, well, this is a scam. Our safe word is Didi Mao. If they took my voice and called you and they're like, I need $5,000. Or we're going to kill your son. First of all, we would know that that, we would know that that's not you because you would tell them, don't bother calling because we're broke. Yeah, don't bother calling. Well, I wouldn't know about it because they just took my voice.
Starting point is 00:43:29 So if they were calling, I'd go, well, you guys are idiots because you should have picked somebody that actually had money. We ain't got it money. Yeah, I don't know. You got to ask a question. I don't know. We'll have to work on that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:41 I'm not going to give everybody the safe. Yeah, that's right. And then we'll get fucked. There's a few things that are, you know, we talked about how this technology is just going, going, going, but there are some things that are kind of, I guess I'd say, possibly holding it back. And the first one is, surprisingly, chats, subscriptions. or users was actually down for June. And it was only up a little bit in April.
Starting point is 00:44:17 It was flat in May and it was down in June. And so one of the arguments with that would be, well, obviously it's going to be down because all these kids are out of college. So because a lot of college kids use chat because they're trying to write term papers and they're trying to work the system, which that's what I would have done if I was in college. But when you think about the scale of what they're trying to do and the worldwide adoption,
Starting point is 00:44:49 you would think that it would not make that much difference, that it would still continue to grow. So I don't think you can account that that's just from kids getting out of school. But one of the things I didn't realize is the free version of chat is actually, not the most up to date as far as the information. If you're using the free version, you're only getting information up to 2021. And to get the subscription version, which is the best, it's like $20 a month. So that's one thing that's probably holding it back. The other thing that I hadn't really thought about, but they were talking about it on All In podcast, is as a society, when you think about the interfaces that we use, old people like me,
Starting point is 00:45:38 you remember if you had a Commodore 64 or you had the first, you had a Microsoft machine, there was DOS. DOS was the operating system, and that was a terrible operating system as far as being user-friendly. And that's where you got Windows. Windows was much easier for you to use. Then we got icons. When Apple came with the iPhone, you had icons, and you could just find the icon that you wanted
Starting point is 00:46:04 that took you to the program that you wanted to use. Well, today, now we've moved to basically scroll, like on your phone, on your smartwatch, on TikTok, on all these social media platforms, you basically scroll to find what you're looking for. And every step of the way, what has happened is, and I know you're talking about a very small amount of input, but still it makes sense. Each step has gotten to where you've had to put in less input to get more output.
Starting point is 00:46:39 So when you think about it, all you have to do is scroll to get what you want, which is very low input to get your output. Okay, when you go to chat, if you're typing, that's a fair amount of, of input you get and a lot of times all you're getting is search results like you would on Google or Bing or whatever so it's it's not it doesn't it isn't following the trend however what what they were talking about is kids young kids they are already way more adopted of voice to text voice to do anything and that's why everybody keeps talking about like Gary Vee was talking about The growth of voice for the last couple of years.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Yeah, he's been on that for a while. And chat will eventually get to where you can just do it with voice. And they think that's the big step. I think he always said it's because it's faster. He thinks eventually a few years down the road, people are going to look at it. Look at texting or getting on Amazon on an app as a chore. Yeah, too much work.
Starting point is 00:47:53 It's too much work to order some. or to text somebody with your fingers. So now it's just easier. Your voice will get so good that you'll just want to do with your voice. Amazon presents Jeff versus Taco Truck Salsa, whether it's Verde, Roja, or the orange one. For Jeff, trying any salsa is like playing Russian roulette with a flamethrower. Luckily, Jeff saved with Amazon and stocked up on antacids, ginger tea, and milk. Habaniero, more like Habinier, yes.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Save the Everyday with Amazon. And they think that's the next jump in the adoption of AI is when you can just tell your virtual assistant, you can just tell your Alexa app, you can just tell whoever. I don't trust Alexa. I don't either. I don't have it. They're all fucking listening.
Starting point is 00:48:47 They are. They are. Did you see that of that driver that came? And supposedly some guy said a racial slurter. to him and they shut down his whole house shut down his whole house shut down his prime account shut down everything and he wasn't even home yeah some drivers supposedly went to this guy's house that was dropping off a package amazon driver amazon driver heard a racial slur he claims and then tells corporate about it and they shut down his whole house with all his amazon products shut down his prime account
Starting point is 00:49:18 and he wasn't even home yeah and it took him over a week yeah to get a hold of somebody to say hey this didn't happen. And you have, if you look at the footage, because, so he had a fully integrated, they're fucking listening, Alexa house with the,
Starting point is 00:49:32 with the door, with the camera in the door and the whole nine yards. And he had to like convince them to look at the, at the footage. And then they were like, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:49:43 I guess nobody was home. That tells you how messed up it is. Yeah, I don't trust. I don't plug your prime sticks. Unplug your, I don't even have an Alexa in our house. I don't, I will never get one.
Starting point is 00:49:54 I'm just going to tell you that right now. I don't trust it. But we all, we do have prime, we have prime sticks, Amazon sticks, fire sticks, because those are so damn handy and easy. But same time, they might be listened to you on your TV. I don't know. I don't know, guys. I'm not, I'm, that's weird, weird deal.
Starting point is 00:50:13 The last, the last thing that I'll say about AI that could really, well, there's a couple things that are probably working against taking this. faster than where we're going now. And there are kind of things, two things I hadn't really thought about. So the first one is the cost of money and the environment in the venture capital world. So with interest rates, where they're at, and with the downfall of Silicon Valley Bank, and how tight credit is, the stream of cheap, free-free. easy money is over. And so in the in the VC world, a lot of these projects and applications using AI that, you know, two or three years ago, they could have had access to as much money
Starting point is 00:51:09 as they wanted because people were falling all over themselves because you couldn't get a decent return on anything. So you might as well risk it to get the biscuit. That's all changed. And so the amount of VC capital that's out there and the governance of how it's being spent much tighter. So fewer and fewer projects are getting started and the ones that are started are probably being watched much closer than what they were as far as, okay, if this isn't getting progress, we're pulling the plug on it. So that's one thing that is definitely going to slow it over time. The other thing is given the situation around the world as far as chip making goes. So the low-end chips.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Lays better get into production of them. They make other chips. They might as well just start making the other chips. Geez, this has been a problem for however. I mean, geez, it's been a problem since we started this podcast. I can't find any fucking chips. Where are they at? I don't know, but I have a guess that a chip fab for computer chips
Starting point is 00:52:16 is significantly more expensive than a Laze factory to make chips. Yep. That's my guess. But Lays has got money. They do have a lot of money. They could do it. You're right. Could be a spinoff.
Starting point is 00:52:28 I don't know. Might be off brand, but. To build a chip fab, it's about, I want to say it's at least a five-year process to get it done. One chip. No, to build a factory to make chips. Oh, gotcha. That's why it takes so long to ramp the production. However, I listen to a real interesting.
Starting point is 00:52:46 like I told you I wasted an entire afternoon yesterday running this down and I went down a rabbit hole about the whole the whole chip thing and it was really interesting but at the end of it I don't know whether or not I don't know whether or not have all that knowledge is going to help me all that much but what's interesting is the low-end chips so the chip that's in your coffee maker in you know television just low-end stuff the Chinese own that market however It is in decline because their cost of labor is getting higher and all of the technology as that market modernizes because we keep the most expensive chip today becomes the cheapest chip 15 years from now. You know as technology gets better the nanometers the size of the chip gets smaller and smaller and smaller and the
Starting point is 00:53:41 number of calculations per chip gets greater and greater and so I don't know what, a 20 nanometer chip maybe, or maybe they're even 40, maybe some of these chips are still 40 nanometers. That's the low end. And that manufacturing is done in China. However, a lot of that is moving to India or Mexico because the cost of labor.
Starting point is 00:54:08 And the Chinese don't really have, they're good at using other people's technology. They're not very good at making their own. and they the Biden administration basically earlier this year told every American that was in China working in the chip business
Starting point is 00:54:24 that you needed to decide whether you wanted to give up your citizenship or get out of China and so most of the expertise in building these chips actually has left China and they're not very good shape in that department
Starting point is 00:54:36 and that doesn't affect AI that much but it affects your Ford pickup as far as if you get a truck and the heated seats work and all that. That's why we have that problem. And during COVID, this supply chain and all that broke down and you couldn't get what you needed. The mid-level chips, which are like what's in cell phones, laptops, that kind of stuff, Taiwan is the main producer of that. Okay, well, we all know there's a hell of a lot of tension between the Chinese and Taiwan. If anything happens in that
Starting point is 00:55:11 situation or, God forbid, a war breaks out and China decides they're going to try to invade Taiwan, which I don't know. Common sense would say that's not a very bright move, but common sense said it probably wasn't that bright for the Russians and Ukrainians to get into it, and it happened. So nothing's off the table, but if that happened, it would seriously disrupt many industries around the world. But then the high-end chips, what is driving? machine learning, supercomputers, all of that. Those chips are made, some of them are made here in America, they're made in Taiwan, some are made in Europe.
Starting point is 00:55:56 However, the components that go into those chips, none of those components are all made within one country. There's literally like nine different companies around the world that all have a piece that they supply to that really high-end chip. And anything that disrupts the flow of goods around the world, especially in that high-end, that will really mess up the ability that cutting-edge technology can advance. And I had no idea that it was that way.
Starting point is 00:56:37 and within the United States, there's a big push coming or already in progress to what we call onshore, which is bringing all this manufacturing back to the United States. That chip manufacturing is part of that. However, as I said,
Starting point is 00:56:52 if you're going to build a chip fab, and there's several that are being built in the United States, it's a five to 10 year process. So, Better get on it. Better get on it. As much as you dissected that,
Starting point is 00:57:05 you might as well just build one. Hi. Why not be more broke? My head hurts. Let's just go into more debt. Might as well. I mean, given the state of the hog industry, it might be time to diversify. I think if anybody is watching that's a newcomer, they just sat here and got godsmacked and they probably don't believe that you're an actual farmer because how the hell does a farmer know that?
Starting point is 00:57:27 Unless they're very intelligent, they realized how many things I said probably in the not the right order and they're like, I don't think this guy knows anything about anything. Well, that could happen too, but I think you were pretty on point there. Do your own research, but yes, basically, and, you know, the really high-end chips, we're getting down, I want to say we're getting down below, I think we're down to about five nanometers. I think seven below seven. So the big bulky chips, you know, 40 nanometers or 20 or whatever,
Starting point is 00:58:01 all the way down to like a five-nanometer chip. And crazy. Crazy shit. Well, that was our topic, our hot topic on AI. We're going to move on here. We're going to shift gears to the entertainment world. And this is one that I'm excited to talk about, and I'm fucking pissed off about, to be frank. And you should all be pissed off about it too. Because it doesn't make sense. It's bullshit. And there's some shady shit going on about this. And you all have probably seen it. But we're going to be talking about the movie Sound of Freedom. and if you know nothing about the movie it's about child sex trafficking and it's about it's on a true story it's about a guy chris ballard is his name he went he's has his own organization and he's trying to stop child sex sex trafficking and he kind of goes undercover finds these people tries to save the children get him get them out and it's kind of based off of him and what he's doing
Starting point is 00:58:58 it's based on his story not all not everything in the movie is true the main thing that is not true I know this because he talked about the other day. Tim Ballard was a, he was a customs agent or a DEA agent, and he specialized in human trafficking. He got at, he left, he left his job because he felt like he couldn't do what he wanted to do and he really wanted to focus on child trafficking. Tim Ballard never killed anybody. I should preface that.
Starting point is 00:59:29 It's not just sex trafficking. It's human trafficking. Yeah, yeah. But it pretty much is the, story of him. There's one family that he got involved with and he, it's the story him basically getting them out of that situation. But the story of the movie is really interesting in the fact that if you have seen the movie or if you're going to see it and I would highly recommend going, it's coming to our little town, came today and we're all going to go tomorrow night to see it.
Starting point is 01:00:00 the movie was actually made in 2018. Yeah, so it says here, independent movie was made for $14 million in 2018, purchased by 20th century Fox, then 20th century was acquired by Disney. Shocker, they fucking are buying everything. And I just got to say this, this is a hot take, maybe not,
Starting point is 01:00:19 maybe a lot of people are relating to this, but Disney, you're fucking up everything. They have ruined everything. Star Wars, Trash, Marvel, Trash now. New movies that are going out for kids all got politics, and bullshit into it. Trash.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Trash. Old Disney, way better, New Disney, sucks ass. I'm not supporting Disney. You suck. You've ruined everything. And this is another example
Starting point is 01:00:41 because this movie sat on the shelf at Disney for five years. And Angel Studios said, Screw that. And they acquired the rights to distribute the movie. And so finally got it off the shelves
Starting point is 01:00:54 and now here we are. And so, if you're active, on social media, Twitter, TikTok, whatever, you have been seeing, and if you watch any highlights from mainstream media, or if you, God forbid, you watch mainstream media, you have seen that the left-leaning news networks and the left-leaning, like, New York Times, Forbes, Rolling Stone, Guardian, have all come out and said it's a Q-Anon. This is a Q-Anon-on conspiracy theory movie. It's all about, it's bullshit. It's referring to that there's this, you know, if you don't
Starting point is 01:01:35 know what QAnon in is, it's this, supposedly it's this group of high elite people that control everything and that are pedophiles essentially. Or one thing that they are associated with is pedophilia. And that they pretty much have said that this movie is just a reflection of that and that's what it's about and that you shouldn't go see this movie because it's bullshit. Right? That's what they're saying. It's, it's, it's just keeping the, keeping the conspiracy theory going, is what a quote unquote. Yeah. And then when you actually listen to real people in the real world talk about this movie, they say it's fucking phenomenal, it's great, everybody should see this movie.
Starting point is 01:02:20 It's a reflection on what's actually, all this movie is really trying to do is shine awareness on human trafficking, child trafficking. That's what it's about. That's what it's about. And the idea and the fact that there's news networks out there and what do you call them? Journalists. Journalists out there that are saying you shouldn't go see this movie and are against this movie is fucking insane to me. The idea that we're trying to say that a human trafficking movie is QAnon and is for the right wing and that it's you shouldn't go see. The idea that they're trying to promote this as you shouldn't go see this movie
Starting point is 01:03:00 when it's just trying to do something positive and give awareness to people and what the fuck's actually going on because this shit is actually going on is baffling to me. This is a, I think this is a topic that whether you're on left side of the aisle or right side of the aisle, you don't come for the fucking children and we should do anything in our power to protect children. And the fact that there's one side of the aisle that, and I'm talking about the corporal,
Starting point is 01:03:26 that are showing this media or talking about this stuff are kind of belittling the idea of people going and seeing this movie is fucking wrong in my opinion. It's fucked up. One of the, the idea that they're putting out there is that everybody is going to see this is middle-aged white men who are all Q&on conspiracy theorists.
Starting point is 01:03:52 However, its first weekend, I should back up a little bit. So Angel Networks, okay, I'll back up all the way. So one thing I will say to Disney's credit is Disney did not have to sell the rights to this. They could have just set on it. They could have just destroyed it and said, oh, well, sorry, we didn't, you don't, we didn't keep it. We thought it was trash, so we just got rid of it. They didn't have to sell the rights to Angel Network. They did, which good for them, it's too bad that they sat on it as long as they did, and they would have not released it. It wasn't for the fact that Angel Networks really pushed and kept pushing to try to get the rights to do it.
Starting point is 01:04:37 And then there was a big crowdfunding to get enough money to get it out to, I think, 2,500 theaters showed it that opening weekend, and it actually made more money than Indiana Jones. made $14 million and Indiana Jones made 11. So that tells you pretty good in basically half the theaters, I think, that Indiana Jones was in. But that whole thing about, you know, it's all conspiracy theorists viewing the movie. So Variety Magazine,
Starting point is 01:05:09 who, Variety Magazine put out a shitty article about it, basically saying the same thing, that it was all conspiracy theorists that were going to it and that it was just putting out this idea of the Q&On thing. So the demographics of the people that have viewed it so far, the most recent data is that the majority of viewers are women, and a third of those women that viewed it were Hispanic. So that doesn't really fit their narrative.
Starting point is 01:05:41 It's bullshit. And to your point, I think the thing that is disturbing to me about it is, and it kind of goes with where we are today. It's fucked up. Is that... In a nutshell, that's it. How in the hell is that not screwed up? Who in their right mind is trying to promote this movie in a bad light?
Starting point is 01:06:03 Yeah. When all it's trying to do is shine light on a fucking horrible act that's being committed on this planet. Well, I'm trying to, I'm going to try to elaborate a little on that. It's insane to me. It's insane to me, and it should be a wake-up call to all of you. Because honestly, what's scary about it, they if they want to allude to that that it's Q&ON, well, them doing that almost makes it seem like
Starting point is 01:06:23 there is some shady shit going on in Hollywood and shit. Because if they're, if they're saying this is shit and you're going to get into it, but these theaters are like having some weird shit going on that are showing this movie, it's almost making the point of them saying, oh, it's a Q&ON conspiracy. Well, it's making me feel like it is a, you guys are, there is a Q&ONO group because why the fuck are you why are you not promoting this movie why are you shining a pour light on it it's making me seem
Starting point is 01:06:54 like there's some shady shit going on behind the scenes and I think a lot of people feel the same way go ahead it pisses me off soar's hot on TV's hot I am I am hot steam coming out of my ears so what I think is
Starting point is 01:07:09 disturbing is and the way that this movie is being represented in media is just another example of how in our society here, there has been a turn away from parental rights, there has been a move towards sexualizing children and objectifying children.
Starting point is 01:07:36 A thousand percent. And if you go down that, if that's the path you're on, then this movie stands in the face of that, because it champions the idea that children should be protected and that they're not being protected. And there is a huge problem with child trafficking, human trafficking in general, but child trafficking in specifically. And so I think that's why you're seeing this pushback is because there's elements within the political class in this country and in media that have an agenda that they want to take, they want to lessen parental rights
Starting point is 01:08:22 and objectify children. It's fucking evil. I mean, why? Why are they doing that? Why? You got to ask why. And I, to be honest, all I could come up with is they're sick fucks
Starting point is 01:08:38 and they're evil. That's disgusting. Well, objectifying children. And I mean, it's the same shit. If you saw the photos, from the fucking pride parades going around in America, there were naked men with their dicks hanging out right in front of children as children walked by.
Starting point is 01:08:55 And nobody said a fucking thing to those people. What in the hell is going on? What in the hell is going on? This idea of exactly what you're saying, of objectifying children and sexualizing children and allowing them to just see grown men in the streets at a parade with their dicks hanging out is just okay. And nobody on the street is going to say something like,
Starting point is 01:09:14 hey get your fucking kid off the street what are you doing you should have you have no business being a parent if that's the way you're going to parent your kid like where the hell is that like where where why are we accepting this i don't get it i don't understand it there's there is a lines and we are getting real i mean we are crossing lines here people are crossing lines when it comes to children there needs to be a fucking like there needs to be a high standard there of like hey we don't do this here and right now it seems like that standard is just getting weakened. And I think it's to your point, I think that's exactly what they unfortunately want to do.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Because why else would you not want this movie to do well? And that just leads me into the next point, which is if you are on TikTok, if you are on Twitter, I have seen I'm not even shitting you, probably hundreds of videos of theaters out there, AMC specifically. That's the one theater that I've heard the most riffraff
Starting point is 01:10:14 on is ACs are going AC units are going out in theaters. The movie screen is getting, it looks like it's like pixelated and it's not showing the movie. They're having that the movie, there's like a commentator on the movie. You know like when you're watching and they have, you know when you accidentally on your TV, you accidentally set the setting where everything that you, everything that you scroll over the TV like talks to you about what you're scrolling over. Same thing with the movie. They have like a commentator of everything that's happening in the movie and it's just playing at the movie theater with people in there to annoy the shit out of people so that they get up and leave. Refunding tickets.
Starting point is 01:10:53 Fire alarms going off. This is all happening and I've seen all real videos of real people literally filming this and putting this on the internet showing that this is happening at these theaters. Why? There again, why is that happening? Why for this specific movie are all these. incidents happening. You have to ask why. It's because they truly, I believe it's because they truly don't want you to see this movie. When in the past has there ever been a showing of a movie with
Starting point is 01:11:27 this much bullshit happening at the theaters of the showing? I have never, I don't think, what are the chances that the fire alarm goes off at a movie theater? Very low. I've yet to be at one. what are the chances that the AC unit just stops working at at the at the at the showing that you go to it's never happened in my lifetime so why all of a sudden am i seeing hundreds upon hundreds of theaters across the country that are showing sound of freedom having all these fucking problems sounds shady to me i don't know about you guys and if you don't if you haven't seen any of this i encourage you to look some shit up on the internet go look at tick to look at look at twitter because i'm sure it's on all platforms by now the one that I've seen the most of it at is on TikTok. But people are still, people are, if anything, it's actually kicking, it's actually having the opposite effect. Yeah, it's having the opposite effect.
Starting point is 01:12:23 It's backfiring and big time on them because now everybody, it's literally promoting the movie. Now everybody's going to go to the theater. And it's almost like people want to go see this movie now just to see if the theater is going to do some shady shit and not allow them to see the movie. like it's just it's skinny more and more traction so they fucked up on that part because they're just marketing the shit out of this movie now but i mean you just got to ask the question the media outlets
Starting point is 01:12:51 are painting a bad light on this movie these theaters are not obviously don't want people to see this movie because all this crazy shit is happening at these at these showings of these at these theaters i mean have you ever been to a movie where the fire alarm goes off I haven't. Have you ever been to a movie theater that the AC stops working? I haven't. Have you ever been to a movie theater where the commentator, I saw one literally the commentator was literally talking. Like you know how when you select the thing on your prime stick and you select the wrong button and everything, every app that you scroll over it says, Netflix, you know, it like commentates it. There was literally a showing of the theater of them having.
Starting point is 01:13:38 a commentator of every action that was happening in the movie and it was talking over the movie. It was like closed captioning was turned on and it was- And somebody was talking voice-voicing it. Yeah well it's fucking weird dude so when you think about how society is moved what do you think the reaction today would be if if passion of the Christ was released now there's something else here now something new Exclusively on Paramount Plus. It's the series Stephen King calls scary as hell. Everything here is impossible, but it's also real.
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Starting point is 01:14:40 that's my point is I feel like, which that's on a whole different, you know, that's a whole different scale or a whole different, that's a whole different genre than what this is. However, it's, it's a mostly conservative movie and it's definitely a belief specific in the fact that it's Christian, you know, based movie. But I really feel like that if that movie was to come out today, I don't think, one, I don't think it could be made today. I don't think that it could be made. And like this movie was made five years ago, and it just shows you the push that is out there
Starting point is 01:15:25 away from anything with any moral fiber. I think that's, when you say why, why? Well, to me, it makes perfect sense, because we've talked about this on so many things. I feel like there's just a goal within our country among progressives to tear down every, just basically tear down everything that is a social norm. so the family the the the the a father as a an intact family a father mother and children um there is an attack on on i'd say i'd say god oh well god is first we you know take god out of everything um destroy the
Starting point is 01:16:29 family but then objectify children and then you know over the years the satisfaction level of politicians has gone lower and lower and lower. Then we started in on the police. We wanted to defund the police and make police and the law enforcement in a bad light, then the military, because at the low point or at one of the lowest points of when nobody trusted politicians, a poll would say most people trust. the military. Well, I don't think that's true now because look who we have running the military and all the problems that they've had. It's just, this is just one more small example of the push within the progressive part of our country to tear down everything that our country was built on
Starting point is 01:17:33 as far as moral standards, the family. Yeah, I mean, I don't have to go into it. So, I mean, you can look at it and say, you know, I just don't understand why would you do that? Why would you do that? If your agenda is to basically destroy, if you're going to destroy our country from within, that's the way you do it. Is you separate people, you get people. Destroy morals. Too far, too far apart to where there's no common ground. That's what is trying to be done here is we're trying to get as many people gosh darn it trying to get as many people as far away from each other as possible yep i agree i agree but i also think i also think and i don't give a fuck what anybody thinks this is my opinion there is some shady shit going on in hollywood there's some shady shit going on behind the scenes it's too
Starting point is 01:18:28 big of a coincidence in my opinion there's too much shit there's epstein's island we just all forget about epstein's island and the list of people that went to that island that he obviously did some sexual shit to children on that island. I mean, there are people out there that are in the light of Hollywood or that are elites that have gone to Epstein's Island and done some shady shit. And we can't ever seem to get the list of people or we can't ever seem to prosecute anybody that was on that list that made it to the eye. We can't ever seem to have any evidence of these people that ever did anything on this island, even though there's cameras on the island and shit. I mean, it's like,
Starting point is 01:19:07 There is some shady shit going on. No, I agree with everything that you're saying there. But I also believe that there's some shady shit going on behind the scenes with people. Well, Sawyer, a thousand percent of people. There's shady shit going on in our White House. Are somebody, somebody was doing cocaine in the White House, and they just, the Secret Service just came out yesterday and said, their investigation is done.
Starting point is 01:19:32 And they were unable to find anybody. They were unable to find anybody. that had anything to do with getting cocaine into the White House. No idea. So if you can't, if you are going to sit and lie to the American people and say, the thing is, there was a time where they would have at least come up with a plausible, somebody would have taken the fall for it. They would have found the gardener, a butler, a maid, a cook,
Starting point is 01:20:07 somebody there that was doing, they would have found somebody and said, oh yeah, that dirty bastard there, he was doing cocaine in the White House. No, they didn't, now they're at a point where they don't care. They, they have soon fed the American people so much shit that they aren't even interested in taking the time to come up with a plausible scapegoat. They just come out and go, well, we don't know how in the hell it got there, but we can't find anybody. So if that is the, you know, if that is the state of affairs, what you're talking about, you're never going to know
Starting point is 01:20:43 no one that was ever had anything to do with Epstein, that will never come to light. It will never come in light as long as the most powerful people that were involved in that are still alive. Look how long the shit that went on with Kennedy. Yeah. Well, it's still, I mean,
Starting point is 01:21:04 most people have a, conclusion on it, right? But you're never going to know. Yeah, they're never going to come out and say it. And that's the problem, that's, I mean, we're going long here, but the problem is, there was a time that I think a majority of people did believe that government for all of its flaws had your best interest in mind. And you could trust what came out of their mouth. And today, I don't think you could find, I don't think you could find a third of the people. You know, people in this country that believe that government has their best interest in mind on either side. I don't think you could. People are incredibly jaded and the other part is we're callous to it.
Starting point is 01:21:51 We're just to the point that we... And we don't do shit about it. That's the scary part. We don't do shit about it. I think also why they don't come up with an explanation or a scapegoat because they know we ain't going to do shit about it. They've realized that we're never going to protest or we're ever going to come and throw the fucker out of the White House and do something about it. Not saying we should. I'm just saying, we haven't done shit. We haven't done anything. We haven't revolted. We haven't done shit yet. So why they can get away with anything? That's the goal of keeping everybody divided and keeping us all fighting over all of these little things. Because when we all have, when we all have differing opinions on every social thing,
Starting point is 01:22:35 we are not going to unite on the big things. And that's exactly what they want. They want to keep us all divided so that when it comes to real change, none of us can agree in a big enough number to throw them out. So I guess we all need to... There's a day coming, there's a day coming that we need to find the big things that we can agree on,
Starting point is 01:23:07 and we need to come together as Americans and write this ship. And I don't know, I don't know when that will be, but that's what needs to happen. Well, the sad truth of it is, if we don't, the country's going to fall, because they are disrupting the inside of this country and what made this country great, and that's the only way you can take down America. Yes. So many people have said that. You can only take down America within.
Starting point is 01:23:32 And that's what's happening. So if we don't turn our shit around, set the fucking standard. There's a guy on the street with his dick hanging out and there's a child walking by. We should probably fucking say something about it and say, get off the street or don't be a parent. You're a shitty parent. What are you doing? Get out of here. I mean, we got to say, we got to speak the fuck up and, like, say some shit.
Starting point is 01:23:51 And go see Sound of Freedom because they don't want you to obviously see it. So go see it. It's for a good cause. It's for a good awareness. I believe we should be more aware of the problem that is child trafficking, human trafficking. I mean, last thing I'll say about it, I saw an interview of Tim Ballard and the guy that made the movie. A child, if you, a child, there's a lot of ways that happen that can happen with child trafficking, but the most common is, you know, these kids get raped 12 to 15 times a day
Starting point is 01:24:23 and then when they're used up, they harvest their organs and sell them. No, they kill them. They kill them and then harvest their organs and sell them. And sell the organs. I mean, that's... Talk about pretty messed up. And I mean, that should give you perspective on how lucky we are because you could have things a lot worse.
Starting point is 01:24:42 But we should all be aware of this issue. And we should all go see this movie. And we should all think about that problem because it's becoming a bigger and bigger problem. And just ask more questions. ask why. Do your own research, do your own digging, but I think most of the people that listen to the show and most people out there can agree that it's messed up that all this shady crap is going on behind the scenes about this movie, when most people on either side of the aisle can agree
Starting point is 01:25:18 that this is a problem that we could come together on and agree that it's messed up, and we should probably do something about it. So that's all. say, go see Sound of Freedom. We're going to see it tomorrow. So let us know, let us know what your guys' thoughts are on it. Let us know what you think about the episode. Let us know if you think we're crazy. Let us know if you agree with us. Let us know what you disagreed on. And pay the fee. If you got any value from the show, share it out with your friends, family, coworkers, employees, whoever. And leave your view on Spotify or Apple. Thank you for your support on the show. Thank you for your support on Farmer Grade.
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