Barn Talk - Barn Talk Q&A: Favorite BBQ, Farm Goals For The Next 10 Years & Automation In Animal Agriculture

Episode Date: September 3, 2022

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That's probably one of my biggest complaints about just any food that is done is done poorly. And by that, I mean, like, if you go to a restaurant and you order a hamburger, that hamburger is going to come out and it's going to have no taste whatsoever. Everybody's got these menus now where they got eight different hamburgers, and it's got an egg on it, it's got bacon on it, it's got onion rings on it, it's got all this shit on it. but when you strip it all off, that burger tastes like ass. Yeah, it's so true.

It is. The burger's terrible. The ones that instantly come to my mind are like Applebee's, chilies, those kind of restaurants where you go and they got, yeah, all those different kinds of burgers, you take everything off, you eat the burger with just cheese, it's terrible. Yeah, because they don't season it. They literally take out a hunk of meat, the patties come, they throw it on, they sear one side, sear the other.

And that's it. That's all they do. And it's like, if I'm going to make a burger, like I'm going to season it as I'm making the patties. And then... Got to get a good crust on there. Yeah. And then, honestly, if you make a good burger, oh,

so I've got a blackstone. Soren and I both have blackstones now. And there is nothing better than, um, what's the bacon, the bacon fat? Bacon up. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. You throw bacon up on.

then do smash burgers and get double two patties, crust bowl sides, stack them with a slice of cheese between them. Oh my gosh. Pickles and mustard, that's like, now you don't want to eat that every night, probably. That's probably not, but that is damn good. All of the food we eat and much of the clothing we wear comes from plants and animals that are raised on farms.

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corn so you can figure at least 11 cents off of that beans 1484 on the board and 16 at the river and it doesn't matter whether you drive across to the Illinois side still only 16 so save your gas and don't don't drive over there bean meal bean meal was actually up when I looked everything else was down but bean meal was up and it was 460 a ton wheat 795 actually I think wheat was up a little bit too. Cattle 143. Hogs are $90. And I don't know what's going on with the hog market. I guess we need to get Jim Long on here and have him try to explain, although I don't think that, I don't think he knows because slaughter numbers are down and cost of production around the world is really, really high. So it doesn't bode well for anybody that is trying to make a buck-raising pig.

and with feed prices the way they are. I don't know. It's tough sledding, but yeah, so hogs were down, 90 bucks. Oil's $87. Gold, 1708. Silver, I didn't get a good price on silver. I think it's about $18. I saw one code. It was 17-something.

Bitcoin is right about $20,000, but it was down, it got down all the way to like $19,300, bounced up to $22,000. It doesn't say. seem to want to get out of that trading range. One thing that's really interesting about Bitcoin is the percentage of coin that is off the exchanges. In other words, people have transferred it into private wallets is, I think, just about the

highest that it's ever been. And so you would think that over time of that kind of action, supply would get very tight because when that when you move it to a hardware wallet a private a private wallet obviously it's not on the exchange and it can't be traded and those people that are doing that obviously they're not planning on selling so you would think that that would start to move supply tight and we would get a bounce off of bitcoin but we haven't gotten it yet so uh therium's 1529 and we don't talk much about ethereum and one of these days i'll do a deep dive about it but they just changed their protocol from proof of work to proof of state, which is a more energy-efficient way to,

I'm right on this, to... State or stake? Proof-of-stake. In other words, proof that you're using, how you're using Ethereum, I think. So proof of work was basically they were mining Ethereum. similar to Bitcoin, and they moved away from that to proof of stake, which is where you actually take the Ethereum and you're using it on the chain, and the more you do that, the more you can get some money off of it. I honestly, I'm kind of talking off my ass, so I don't really know. I just

know that it's different, and there is a big brouhaha about it, but I think it's been going pretty positive and the adoption of Ethereum is it's Ethereum is used on an awful lot of projects out there and so it's actually been trading higher I mean it's 1529 and it got up to like 1750 I think but it's it's definitely moving up Tesla 267 dollars now before you panic that is after the split so it split

three for one here the 25th. I thought it was two for one. Three for one. Yeah, three for one. So your, if you're, you know, if, take that number times three and that would get you to the price of what it was.

And that price is actually after a, was that a five for one split they did back in the day? I think it was five for one. So you have to take today's number times three and take that number times five. And that'll give you what, for reference over the life of Tesla, what the share price is unsplit.

And there's a lot of reasons why they did that. But it's trading down along with the rest of the market and a lot of uncertainty. And AI Day is coming up in September. And then the master plan, Elon's master plan, part three, is about a couple weeks out. I think that that's going to have an awful lot to do with batteries.

Because... What's the master plan called? I think it's just called Master Plan Part 3 because he did a Master Plan. That's what the day is called. That's what the event's called. No, it's not even an event. He's going to just release it on, he'll just release it on Twitter. Twitter.

Yeah, I mean, we could get into the whole Twitter thing too, but we'll save that for another. I think Elon's case in the district court or the business court of Delaware got a lot stronger over the last couple weeks because they had the guy that was the former head of security for Twitter that Jack Dorsey hired. He was fired not too long after Jack moved out of the chairmanship role, and he just kept an awful lot of documents and released him and filed for immunity under a whistleblower act that got passed a few years ago, and he has a lot of not very nice things to say about Twitter management, which I think goes along with Elon's filing as to why he didn't think that he should be held to buy on Twitter,

which he wants to buy it. It's just he wants to buy it for a cheaper price than what it was originally agreed to. There's a lot of shady shit. Yeah, there's a lot of shady shit going on in there. and we might get into that later. I don't know. We'll see. If not we'll get into another episode.

Yeah, that's about it for the markets. Well, I figured I'd read a couple of reviews here. We'll do one good one and one bad one that we received because I like to shout out people that leave us good reviews. So Jake Break, and there's a shitload of numbers after this, we'll just say, Jake Break 0-07. Doing great with the show for sure. Just found the show out about a week ago and love every bit of it.

Keep up the awesome work. Well, thanks, Jake. We appreciate it, dude. Thank you for leaving a review. Keep leaving those reviews, guys. And then, you know, every time we do a political episode, they're one of our best episodes as far as the positive feedback we receive, but that's also where we receive all of our negative feedback.

The only bad reviews we've ever received on this, on Apple and our Spotify is because we got political. But we think it's important, and every single time we do an episode about politics, we always say in the beginning we're going to talk about politics. So if you're going to get your feelings hurt and you're going to get butt hurt, this isn't the one for you. But if you will still watch it, so they know that they're going to get butt hurt. But somebody, this is the title of this review, not much barn talk. Came to the show seeking beneficial agricultural info, sadly, just a couple of right-wing Republicans spouting off their opinions. Gosh, that hurt.

Yeah, it does. Really hits me in the heart. But, you know, you're not going to please everybody, and we know that. But, I mean, the thing that I hate about this review is just we got a million other episodes you could have listened to that talk about ag strictly, but you picked one. And then that's why you're going to leave me a one-star review. Leave us a one-star review. They're just pissy people out there. But you know what?

All the guys that receive, all the guys that leave awesome reviews, we really appreciate it. It's really nice to see that numbers growing. And we love hearing from you guys the feedback because that lets us know we're doing stuff right. and we'll just keep doing it. So thank you. Yeah. And, you know, we could sit here and be very, very not share our opinions. I mean, I feel like that's basically the reason why people enjoy listening to us is because we kind of say what we think about subjects. And we certainly don't agree with everything on either side of the political spectrum.

I would say we're, in our mind, we're probably more right than left, but we're definitely don't give the people on the right a hall pass, because if you've heard me say this once, you've heard me say it 10 times that your politicians, both left and right are failing you miserably, and I don't have a very high opinion of any of them. But that's fine. I just think, like, what's interesting to listen to? Like what media is interesting to listen to if the people that are giving you that information are just skewed? Well, are just trying to walk, trying to not offend anybody, which in today's world, I mean, that's what happens.

So many of these companies and so many of these media outlets, they want to, unless they're blatantly, you know, left us, whatever. But they're just trying to like please everybody all the time, which in fact, what happens is you don't please anybody and you don't you serve no purpose like there's no what's the ROI on that nothing if it doesn't challenge you to think for yourself um then why why why take it well you don't know if it's the truth because are you feeding me something that's going to make me are you feeding me something that's skewed in a way that it's not going to hurt my feelings because that's how you want to portray your media or is it actually the truth and you're going to tell us the actual truth.

Nobody's been actually telling us the truth for a long, long time. I think people are sick of it. And that's why we'd like to tell our truth. We just like sharing what we think truthfully and honestly, and we don't care what anybody thinks. We're just going to put it out there and let you guys decide. That's the beautiful thing about the age we live in. Yeah, I thought it was pretty interesting.

Aaron Rogers was on the Joe Rogan podcast, and he was talking about, you know, he got kind of put through the, put through the grinder on his decision to not be vaccinated. And Joe made the comment about what people think. And Aaron Rogers, I thought he had a very thoughtful response to that. And he said, I don't think that people do think. In other words, he said, I don't think today the majority of people actually don't think for themselves and that's the problem is they just take whatever is told to them at face value

and say oh yeah that must be right they don't question in other words as a society we are getting well we're getting dumber because we just take what people tell us as being oh well that must be right because whatever the government tells you or CNN tells you or fox news tell you you just take it for face what it what it is that's a bad place because one thing i'll tell you any anything that we tell you on here, don't take our word for it. Go check it out for yourself. Dig it up. Yeah. Be your own. You have to be your own. You know, people a lot of times talk about in the medical, you know, you have to be your own advocate when it comes to taking care of your health. Well, you have to be your own advocate when it comes to taking care of your...

Receiving information. Yeah, everything in your life because you can't put your faith in news outlets or or, you know, people, us. You need to check it out and make sure that, you know, what we're telling you checks out with your filter. And there needs to be a lot more of that, not a lot less than that. And I think our elected officials would like for us all to do less of that. They would like us to take everything at face value,

but we need to go the other way and question everything. I think there's a lot of people out there. I don't know that might think that they think a lot of people or most people are good, which I think most people are good. But those people in power, politicians, a lot of elite people running the world, if you think that those people really care about your well-being and you don't think they have a motive behind what they're telling you,

like if that's just not, if that hasn't been, you know, like the last three years, the evidence that we've seen that we were told for how to live our lives, everything got shut down, all that. If that isn't proof to you that what they tell you isn't always what it should be or the way it should be, I don't know what to say. I don't know what I don't know what to do to change your mind on that because that was the most evidence I've ever seen in my lifetime. And I don't know maybe in your life too.

I mean, it's coming out now. CDC is completely just, you know, it's not the unvaccinated. It's not the unvaccinated narrative anymore. It's not the pandemic of the unvaccinated. It's now, if you're unvaccinated, it doesn't matter. We don't have to wear these masks anymore. Like all the people that weren't vaccinated were saying from the very beginning. And it's a fuck, it was a fucking money grab and it was a scam.

I mean, it's going to go down as one of the biggest scams in American history if they write it in that. I mean, not saying it wasn't a disease and there wasn't people affected and families affected by it. I'm not saying that. that. But to the level that they fired that thing up, I mean, guys, when it first came out, we all know we saw TV footage of,

they were showing us footage of dead bodies getting loaded up in boats and by the truck loads and people were dying. It was like the black plague they were playing it off like it was the black plague. I mean, they made it seem like everybody was dying by this thing to scare the shit out of people. And then it turns out

it's not killing that many people at all. 99% survival rate. I mean, all those people that weren't vaccinated, not even a, not even a, oh, hey, we're sorry about that. We're sorry that you lost your job. We're fired. I'm sorry that all, we had to close all these small businesses down. All these small businesses have just completely, I mean, we lost a lot of small businesses during it, and there's no relief program.

You know, he wants to forgive student debt out there, which I got mixed feelings about. But what about all these small businesses that were running and got shut down for two years? and then completely had to shut down their business for life. Where's the relief program on that? There's not one. So, I don't know. I'm just saying, you know, we are pretty middle in the road.

I would say that we don't care what you are, what you do, who you want to have sex with, what race you are, if you want to be transgender, whatever. We don't care as long as it doesn't. I just don't want to pay for it. And I mean,

some of this stuff you've got to draw a line. Like, you know, I don't want my kids going to drag shows when they're in grade school. I mean, that's just basic shit that you don't want to have happen. Because they don't need to be exposed to that. The school shouldn't teach my kids about sexuality and all that. That's my job. Teach them how to learn.

Teach them stuff that they need to learn to be successful in life. You don't need to teach them about their... Did they do that, though? Huh? Did they do that? Do what? Teach them things they need to know to be successful. Well, they haven't done a really good job at that.

either, but that's what they sell. That's what they sell. That's what they sell to people. Anyway, that was kind of a long spiel that we didn't think we were going to go down, but we did. But that's what makes podcasts amazing. So pretty middle of the road. We appreciate all the reviews. Keep setting in. We're going to- Good and bad. Thanks for listening to us. Give us a chance. Sorry, we pissed you off. Try us again sometime. Yeah. But today we're not going to talk any more about politics. I don't think so. We're going to go into the Q&A. So we're going to get into the questions that you guys submitted. Remember to submit those questions at BarnTalk Show at gmail.com going forward. So first off, what are your thoughts on the electric semi?

Well, so Tesla updated their website and the first deliveries of the Tesla semi are coming soon. I'm not sure how many are at Frito Lay or Pepsi. So PepsiCo owns Free Delay. It's together. And that's where the first ones were delivered for testing. And I'm not sure when they're delivering more. But they're starting production fairly soon, and I think it's going to be about five a week to start.

And you have to remember that the number of batteries it takes to do the semi, I want to say the number is for every single, semi that they build, you could build, it's enough batteries for, did I say 70? I want to say like 70 model S, or sorry, model wise. And so I mean, that's a significant number. So in other words, every truck they build is that many less cars that they can build. Now, the flip side of that is I think their margin on the semi is probably even better, a lot better than what it is on the cars that they make. But Elon talked about it a little bit and something that I found that was very surprising. And I think this gets kind of, this doesn't get talked about in the media very much.

I think that, you know, the trucking community is a very independent bunch of people, and their brand loyalty is huge, especially with owner-operators. And so, you know, Peterbilt and Kenworth, they're not going to go away quietly on this, and people are going to be reluctant to make that change. But I think what you're going to see, and the example that I used when I was talking to Sawyer about it, was one of the first people that has a big block of the semi on ordered is UPS. I think they've got 100 or 125. And when you, the cost of the semi is between $150,000 to $185,000 for a brand new tractor.

And it depends on whether it's the 300 miles. range or the 500 mile range. And that's before any rebates that are in part of this new inflation fighter bill that got past, pork barrel bill that got passed.

But they using the numbers as far as the cost per kilowatt to charge the semi versus the price of diesel fuel and the range and the maintenance. Basically you should be able to pay for a semi just in the savings of diesel fuel versus the electricity that you're going to

use to charge it in two and a half years. Then on top of that, the cost of maintenance per mile is way less than a diesel powered semi. So when people say, oh yeah, you know, nobody's going to adopt that. Well, here's what's going to happen. And that's the beautiful thing about podcasts and YouTube videos is it's all out there. And once you put it out there, it's there forever. So this will either age well or it won't. And if it won't, everybody can bring it up and do at me and say, look at this idiot. But so my thoughts on this are if you're somebody like FedEx and you see UPS, by 120 of these semis and then by another 120 these semis. And the next thing you know, their fleet,

they're running a pretty sizable percentage of them as electric. And their cost to ownership is a third less than yours or half of yours. And you're in the cutthroat business of delivering freight and packages. and you figure out that UPS has a cost structure that is a third less than yours, how long you think it's going to take FedEx before they're beating on Tesla's door to get their own because otherwise they can't compete. And if you're in the... Because then what is UPS going to do for the customer?

They're going to cut the cost on what they're going to charge for their customers, which is going to be way better than FedEx's because they can afford to do that. And then FedEx is going to be screwed because, no one's going to go to FedEx. Yeah, because UPS is going to be cheaper. It's all about the money. That's the thing people don't realize. When businesses can find an edge and they find the edge against their competition,

now they can cut costs for their customers because now all their customers that were going to this person might switch over and go to UPS because, oh, their costs are way down. Ship it cheaper. Ship it's so simple. It's like, okay, I got a ship, I got a 10-pound box. I got to ship a 10-pound box of pork chops to, oh, Ohio, and if I go FedEx, it costs me $65. If I go UPS, it costs me $60.

I don't care who hauls it. The only thing I care about is that now that I got $5 more in my pocket, because if I sold that box, freight included, I'm eating that money. So if I can sell it $5 cheaper, or if I can make $5 more, or then I can turn around, maybe I make my box $2.5 cheaper than my competition. It all trickles down. And I think this is a good jumping off point to talk about this bill that was passed, this inflation fighter bill that has all of this EV tax credit stuff in it,

which the people that voted on it don't even have any idea how the hell it's going to work because I've watched, I've read and I've watched, I don't know how many hours and pages of stuff by people trying to figure out how it's going to work. And the truth is I don't think they really know how it's going to work. And one of the big stumbling blocks to it is that the batteries, the vehicles have to be below a certain price for the purchase price for you to get the credit. Then they also have to be a certain percentage made in America. And I know just off the top, like the Mustang Maki doesn't even qualify because it's made in Mexico.

So it doesn't work. But even if it's made in America, the batteries have to be a certain percentage of the materials have to come from country that has a favored favored nation trading status or that we have a trading agreement with. And so China is off that list. And so most of the batteries are made in China. So there's really a lot of gray area about whether this is even going to amount to anything. But my point of it is all of that shit was done as an incentive to get people to buy

cars, they don't even need that. None of that needed to be done at all. Because the example I just gave you with UPS versus FedEx, if that played out, the government doesn't have anything to do with that. That is just cold hard business, and that's cold hard economics. And Tesla already has the wait time to get a car from them is already months and months and months. because people want them. They don't need an incentive. They need no incentive to make people want to buy their cars. And they'll be the first to tell you.

Elon will be the first to tell you or anybody that works within management. They were against this bill to start with because they do not need government incentives to drive this market. The EV market is already headed that way. And the UPS example is like just stay out of the way. The best thing government could do is just,

stay out of the way. However, they can't, they just can't do that. They just cannot leave well enough alone. But on the semi, I think you're going to see just cold hard economics make the decision as to whether or not that's a marketable product. And in my mind, it's 100% going to totally change the transportation landscape in this country. And, you know, people that are, against it are going to just scream and say this and say that. But as it doesn't care. Yeah. The market doesn't care.

The market doesn't care. And as it gets out there and the miles get driven, the people get them and more and more and more. And they see what the maintenance actually is. And the lower cost of fuel, no fuel. And I'll be happy to tell you, you know what, if they bring this out and it's a, and it's a maintenance nightmare and it isn't as they said it will perform, I will be the first to be back on here to say, you know, what the hell were they thinking? But past performance, Tesla doesn't really have a track record of ever releasing something that wasn't pretty well built,

ready to go. And so I think the semi is a game changer. And I think it's going to be, I think it'll be one of their biggest products. And I think it'll eventually, it'll make more money than a lot of the car business does for them. Just another avenue for Tesla. And it'll help the stock price. So if you haven't got any Tesla stock, and this is not financial advice. Do we still have that disclaimer that this is?

I got it in every single description now. It's nice. Because not, but I can tell you that if I had a few dollars laying around, I'd be buying more Tesla stock. So anyway. Yeah, I would you haul grain with it if you could get your hands on. Oh, I so would. I would have one tomorrow if for no other reason

than just to drive down to the feed mill and haul a load of corn just to watch all the boys that got their 379s extended hood, extended cab with all the seat all the air let out of the seat just watch me pull in and just shake their heads. Oh, just shake their heads. That would be, I would love it.

Talk about a YouTube video, that would be a YouTube video. So Elon, if you want some real world... Work with those things. Yeah, send me one of them semis. I'll even take the 300 mile range because I only got to go 23 miles to the feed bill. so I can make several trips before I got to recharge. And the other thing that we're not really talking about with the semi,

which would be a game changer, I mean, is what if it's fully autonomous? Oh, that will come. That will come eventually. It's just like with the cars. But, I mean, you got those two, you got the two positives with way less as far as what it's going to cost to charge it versus what's going to cost for diesel fuel and then way less on the maintenance. But then if it can drive itself, that's going to, I mean, that's going to, that's going to adopt, I mean, the adoption rate on that's going to be even more and more of these

companies like UPS and FedEx. Now they don't have that labor cost. Oh, yeah. I mean, cut the prices even more. I mean, that's scary for the labor force, but that's what they're working on. Well, we're short anyway. Right. We're short anyway.

People like to make an all or nothing argument and they'll say, oh, there's no way you can do that. You can't replace people for, you know, delivering all this freight. And that's true to a point. But what we're talking about is if you're traveling, you know, if you're going east or you're going west and you're on one of the major interstates and you're driving and it's, you know, 10 o'clock at night, 2 o'clock in the morning, how many semis do you meet hauling freight, pulling doubles or triples? And they're hauling, all they're doing is hauling FedEx, UPS, DHS, the U.S. Postal Service. And all they're doing is going from one warehouse to another. It's not where we're stopping five places. We're literally just loading in Omaha and we're going to Chicago.

We're going from L.A. to Omaha or we're going from Chicago to Pittsburgh, whatever. Those are the routes that full autonomy, it's a no-brainer because you can literally program that. And if you've ever watched an in-depth breakdown of like the Tesla, the newest Tesla factories, So Fremont's not this way, but all the rest of them are. Within the factory, they're using these carts, these motorized carts. I don't know what else. It's like a wagon, and they're fully autonomous. Their program to haul parts from the warehouse to the production floor,

and they do it totally automatic, and it's pre-programmed, their routes pre-programmed, and they go back to the same spot every time, get loaded, and then they go to the same spot on the floor and get unloaded. What you're talking about doing with freight in those situations is almost exactly the same. And that'll be the first incidents that you see somebody do autonomous trucks. And it'll probably be a freight company or a beverage company, something like that, going from warehouse to warehouse.

But what I wanted to say was, What I wanted to talk about while we were, and this is a little bit tied in with the semi, but the charging rate on it, you can get 75% of the mileage, 70% or 75% in 30 minutes. So if it's a 500-mile range truck, you can get 75% of that range if you're plugged in for 30 minutes at a Tesla level 4 charger or whatever. So I mean, logistically, that's pretty easy to do, especially when we're dealing with, you know, the laws on how long trucks can operate. And I think, you know, you can only run eight hours or ten hours, and then you have to be off for so long for the logs and all that. And so you can easily make that work. You just have to build out the infrastructure with the charging.

And on that note of the charging, so some of you may know this, some of you may not, that, One of the other things that we're all kind of into in our family is we have some real estate, we have some Airbnbs, and yesterday I just ordered Tesla Charger for the house, for the Babcock House, and Tesla has changed their program, I guess you'd say, and what they're doing is for commercial areas, like if you own a store or Airbnb or whatever, and you install a Tesla wall charger or a pedestal charger, and you register with Tesla, anybody that comes there that charges, they do it through the Tesla app, and you don't have to do anything, and then Tesla turns around and they pay you for the power that it use, plus a margin,

you actually make money off of it. And that's just starting. and that is genius because it is going to incentivize people all over this country that have businesses to install Tesla chargers for Tesla. So in other words

like electrify America and all then, they got to go find places to put these chargers. Tesla now is making it to where if I have a business, it costs me nothing other than the cost of the charger. And I think Tesla has a partner program

where they'll give you the charger for free and then they just take it out of the charging over a period of time, so it really doesn't cost you much of anything other than the installation. But you get the convenience for people who have Teslas that come to your business, but now you're also going to make money off it. It's a no-brainer. And it's just going to grow there. Just think about all the hotels, all the movie theaters, all the malls,

all the small businesses out there. I mean, yeah. They're going to get individual businesses to build out their infrastructure. infrastructure, and they've already got the largest charging network in probably the world, and within two years, they'll own the market. They're going to own the market. So anyway. It's another avenue for them, too.

That should help the stock. Did I say that should help the stock price? Should help the stock price. Yeah. Trucks, we've got semi-trucks, cars, charging. Well, it's your turn to ask me a question now. I think you rambled on. I have rambled on. How do you like country living?

Country living versus city living or? Oh, well, I haven't really lived in the city much, but I can tell you I don't like the city. I'll go, I'll go and visit the city. I got friends wherever I'll go visit, be there for a couple days, be there for a night, then I want to come home because I believe country living is the epitome of what it's the most free you can feel in this country today. having your own acreage living in the country being away from people having your own space having your own freedom having your own peace of mind having your own peace it's like it's like heaven you cannot it's it's like there's nothing else in the world can provide you that peace than your own place

that's just away from people it's your own little compound that you can build on make better make do more things do things that's not going to disrupt other people you can take a piss in the yard your dog can shit in the yard and you don't have to pick it up i mean there's so many great things to it there's a lot now there's some downsides to it because we got a lot of you know we got a lot of grass we got to mow so you know that's more than if you lived in the a suburb you know you got your one little section but you got to mow a lot of grass out here there's a lot of maintenance work Yeah. But at the end of the day, I would want it no other way.

I think living in the country gives you true freedom. It really does. And I encourage anybody and everybody that's never lived in the country to go try it. And I think a lot of young people, when they're young, they want to go live in the city because it's just there's so much to do. There's club life. You meet a lot of people. There's restaurants and all that stuff, which is great.

Because I'll say we don't have a lot of, we don't have a ton of stuff to do. as far as restaurants. We don't have clubs in our small town or anything like that, which, you know, whatever. But if you fall in love with as you get older and if you fall in love with just being at peace, there's no other place that you can find that piece. Yeah. And freedom. There's just not. Club ain't going to give you that. The city is just not going to give you that, in my opinion. I don't know. I haven't lived in a city. So I might be a little biased. But just if you try living in the country one time. I bet you'll never want to go back. City life is just so many people. It's so like you're in your own little world within that

and you don't, a lot of people don't branch out. They don't make relationships like they used to. I think it probably could have, it probably used to be that way. But I mean, with social media and all that, I think it's just made things. People are more isolated now. And they're more, I don't know if they're more self-conscious or what, but they just don't socialized like they used to. I don't know. That's just an opinion. But the other thing is, you kind of can just, you don't, you're not like trying to live, like I feel like a lot of people in the suburb life, they get, they get into these, schools, they take their kids these schools, they, you know, they meet a bunch,

they beat other parents in the school, and then they start keeping up with the Joneses. They're in their little paw, they're in their little suburb and it's all about how you look, to your fellow suburban neighbors, suburban neighbors. And it's all about keeping up with the Joneses because you're just submerged in that. You take your kids to the school, you're in this one living pod, you see the next door neighbor what he's driving, what their house is. And it's just they're bragging to each other, always talking about what they got, what's new, what their kids are doing, how they're better than your kids, you know.

And it's just, when you're here living in the country and you're away from everybody, you just do your own thing. And that's all you're just focused on what you're just focused on what you're doing and you're not really I mean I just don't feel like you keep up with the Joneses we try to keep up with the Joneses but it's all through equipment yeah and we can I think farmers all have that a little bit and I think everybody has keep it up with the Joneses a little bit in you I mean you know you like to have nice stuff but when you get older and you live on your when you live in the country I just feel like that's less of a thing you just are kind of doing your own thing I'm very happy to be where I am

I think if people stop comparing themselves as much, if people just did their own thing and, you know, didn't dedicate their life to always having the best shit and looking the best and trying to impress other people that really don't give a shit, they'd probably be a little bit happier. So I agree. So I encourage anybody out there that can buy an acreage, go do it because it's amazing. Because, you know, I don't want everything. I don't want all the farm ground and I don't want all the nice country acres out there to get developed. so somebody's got to own it and hold it.

Now, speaking like a true farmer, living in the country is great. Just don't move in next to me. Yeah, facts. Don't move close to us. Don't move close to us. Let us keep our peace. What are your favorite barbecue seasonings

slash barbecue sauce? Oh, well, so my barbecue journey really kind of started with Malcolm Reed. He's the best. I will say. Dad put me on to him.

You learned a lot through him. I did learn a lot from Mountaine. He's got a lot of good products. But man, he's just a good old, he's a good old barbecue boy. He's from the South, and he's just a nice guy. His tutorials aren't.

They're not, there's not a bunch of shit in him. He gets right to the point. He has a good time, and it just looks damn good. And it's been everything I've tried, it's fire. he and his wife, I think, do a podcast, just talking about barbecue.

We got to get them on. And I don't think that he does competition anymore. He used to do a lot of competition, but how to barbecue right? That's the name of it. That's his brand. And so I remember, I think the first, when I got a, when I got a pellet grill, I started watching him do pork butt and do brisket and do all that stuff. but he so I use salt pepper garlic pretty much in everything you know it's like your base coating

yep salt pepper garlic and then um he's got I like his barbecue seasonings um I've done a lot I've I buy a lot of meat church meat church he and he's he's good too um what's that guy's name I don't know what that guy's name is. But he has some, he's really tied in with Treger. He does a lot of stuff through Treggar. The Meat Church guy. But his stuff's good. I like his seasonings.

And it's so much fun to experiment. You know, I've tried all kinds of different stuff. And we just made pork chops the other night where we season them salt, pepper, garlic, and then this, like, citrus barbecue rub. So it's a lot like any regular bowl. barbecue rub, but it has like orange, orange and lemon kind of in it. You can get a little of that.

And we marinated the pork in orange juice and then seared it, seared both sides, and then threw it in the smoker to fish. I ain't going to lie. That sounds kind of... I know we didn't tell you that we did it because we figured we only got six chops and they're pretty thin. So you just ate them all and you couldn't call me because... Well, right, because mom's like...

like, should we call sword? I'm like, no, because he'll eat them all. And so we didn't. Probably a good idea on your part. It was pretty good. But next time we'll get it. Is it tasty, though? Yeah, it was really good.

It was really good. Yeah, I mean, I think I'm, I use Malcolm Reed seasonings a lot. I have his 8 pea seasoning, which is salt pepper garlic. I have his barbecue rub. I got his hot barbecue rub. And that's really my go-to. He also's got steak seasoning, which is really good. You could use Lowrys or whatever.

He's got a Mexican. But I, you know what, I'll say this. I don't fuck around my seasoning. I put some seasoning on. I don't, I think, yeah, if it's good meat, you don't have to overseason it, which I try not to, but seasoning gives you flavor, dude. If you want it to taste good, season that shit. I see videos of people just salt and pepper, barely putting it on there.

I'm like, no wonder you hate steak. Yeah. You don't even season the damn thing. That's probably one of my biggest complaints about just any food that is done is done poorly. And by that, I mean, like, if you go to a restaurant and you order a hamburger, that hamburger is going to come out, and it's going to have no taste whatsoever. Everybody's got these menus now where they got eight different hamburgers,

and it's got an egg on it, it's got bacon on it, it's got onion rings on it, it's got all this shit on it. But when you strip it all off, that burger tastes like ass. It's so true. It is. It is. The burger's terrible. The ones that you, the ones that you, the one.

The ones that instantly come to my mind are like Applebee's, Chili's, those kind of restaurants where you go and they got, yeah, all those different kinds of burgers, you take everything off, you eat the burger with just cheese, it's terrible. Yeah, because they don't season it. They literally take out a hunk of meat, comes, the patties come, they throw it on, they sear, you know, sear one side, seared the other. And that's it.

That's all they do. And it's like, if I'm going to make a burger, like I'm going to season it as I'm making the patties, and then got to get a good crunch. Must on there. Yeah. And then, honestly,

if you make a good burger, so I've got a blackstone. Soren I both have blackstones now, and there is nothing better than, um, what's the bacon, the bacon fat? Bacon up.

Oh my gosh. You throw bacon up on and then do smash burgers and get double two patties, crust both sides, stack them with a slice of cheese between them. Oh my gosh. Pickles and mustard, that's like, now you don't want to eat that every night probably. That's probably not, but that is damn good.

Yeah. And then I do a lot of pork butt, pulled pork, and so much a barbecue is just not being in a hurry. Yeah, that's where you have to plan ahead because if you try to rush it, it's going to turn out. There's very few things that, like when I do pork chops, I sear both sides. I got two sides of my grill are heated. I turn them up on high. I sear with my pork chop two minutes, two minutes, and then I turn it,

so let's get those grill marks. Then I flip it two minutes, so four minutes aside, but you switch so it gets that grill mark. And then when I'm done searing it, I put it over to the side that isn't heated, and you just go off Tim. You don't go off, you don't go off time.

You don't set a 20-minute timer you go off. Okay, when this mofo hits 135, I'm taking it out, and then I'm going to let us sit, so it gets up to 140. and then... I think... That's how you got to do it. But like a ribby,

if it's a thin ribby, you can pretty much go off time on that thing. Like, you're not going to temp. You're just... Yeah. And burgers kind of the same way. Yeah. I mean, but like anything pork and chicken too,

it's kind of like, gotta go off temp. Yeah. Pork is one of the easiest meats to fuck up. I mean, it just is. Yeah. And that's the other... But it's really good if you...

do it right. Oh, yeah. It's fire. That's one of the biggest problems our industry has is if I've had, I'd hate to even know how many times that I've gone to a, a industry related meal. Some pork industry, whether it's a vendor,

whether it's a pork producers thing, whatever. And they have pork loin. And it's not seasoned. It's overdone. And it's over-done. And it's over-cooked. And it's like, how do you expect everybody else in the country to buy our product when you don't even get people to cook it right for people that know what it should taste like? And that's why I've said for a long time, the best thing that the pork board could do is, I don't care if you've got to get in a car and drive down there.

you need to show up on Malcolm Reed's doorstep and say, hey, how much pork do we got to give you to just, you know, promote the eating pork and cooking pork? And I don't understand. I mean, they always ask us, ask people questions like, how are we going to sell more, how will we sell more pork? That's how you sell more pork. You get guys that are damn good at cooking and grilling and smoking meat, give them all the pork that they need, and they will promote the consumption of pork. because they're damn good at it. And it already is. I mean, look at how barbecue culture is grown in this country. I mean, it's just, it's crazy.

It's a skill now. It's a hobby. If you know how to fire up the grill, I mean, it's always kind of been that way, but now it's just hitting another height. Like, if you know how to smoke some meat, you know how to grill some meat, it's like a skill.

Yeah. Like, that's, it's good. It's fun to do and it's rewarding, too, feeding a bunch of people. My opinion on sauce is there's, you know, there's all times of good sauces out there that just complement the meat. But that's what it's got to be about. If you make a good smoked meat, whether it's a brisket,

whether it's a pulled pork, whether it's whatever, that sauce should complement the meat, not make the meat taste good. Yeah. Because if a briskets done right or pulled pork is done right, I could eat it plain. Yep, me too. But to get some of that moisture, get a little bit of that more smoky flavor, I'm always a sweet baby raised guy.

That's really good. But if you want that sugar-free stuff, what's that guy's brand? He's kind of taken America by storm with all these sugar-free sauces. I can't remember what his name is. Is it Stubs? Stubbs. Stubs. Yeah, yeah.

Stubbs. I don't know what, I don't even know what the background of the company is, but you probably see it all your Walmart's Costco, all that. But this brand called Stubbs came out and it's zero-sugar barbecue sauce. They got Polynesian sauce, ketchup, pretty much a chick-fil-A sauce. that tastes damn good. That's a good option, so throw that out there. But yeah, I'm on the train is sauce is great,

but it shouldn't make the meat. Yeah, it should complement it. Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you a quick story. And you, I get, I think you always remember things in the past maybe to be better than what they were. But really my first experience with really good barbecue was back in, early 2000s when I first started working for precision and I went to the World Pork Expo as a exhibitor and not as a visitor because that's kind of a whole different world

when you're on when you're on the exhibitor side just because it's really like a big family atmosphere and there was this company that we did a lot of business with and they're called hired hand many of you if any of you're in the ag especially the poultry countryside you would know hired hand hired hand got bought out by by ap later on but they were based out of bremen alabama and those were some good old boys down there and when they would the south knows how to do barbecue oh man you aren't a kidding and when they would come to the world pork expo they would bring as many people to barbecue as they brought to work the booth at the show they would show up with two big motor homes,

roll the awnings out and have a big smoker between them, and they would cook 24 hours a day. I remember one year they had like 40 racks of ribs maybe that they had on, and they started at like 8 o'clock at night, and they cooked all night long. And we were there. I mean, it was a tough, it was the hardest, like three days to get through that, because you were up all night and then had to be in the booth.

We drank a lot. We drank too much. I ate a lot of barbecue. But Brian Peppers, if I'm going to cut this clip and I'm going to send it to Brian Peppers because he worked for them. And that was the first time that I ever had white sauce. And they made their, so they made all their own sauces and they had this white sauce. I think they called it Carolina white sauce.

Carolina mustard, that shit hits different. And maybe it wasn't Carolina. Maybe you had Carolina mustard too, but they'll correct me. But anyway, they had this white sauce. And I'll tell you what, it, holy shit, that was good. And we sat out there and drank beer and ate ribs. And I don't, I think there was a golf cart that ended up in a drainage ditch out of that deal. And I honestly think that it might have been after that the next year, we weren't allowed to rent a golf cart.

I'm not sure if it was PSI's golf cart or whether it was hired hands, but the powers B, we're not happy because it ended up being pretty much utterly destroyed, which that's a whole another story. And the highlight of that was eating ribs, drinking beer with them boys, and listening to Brian Peppers tell the story to these ladies that were in the tent about how he and his buddy that were there were national champion high divers. Nope. National champion Synchronized Swimmers.

And if you, obviously these boys didn't quite have the physique for that. But the story was so good and they told it so well. They bought it. They bought it, hook, line, and sinker. And I mean, it was, oh, that was a great time. But their barbecue, all homemade sauce. And to be honest, like when I think about it, I don't think I've ever had a purchased sauce that's anywhere near as good.

I agree. If you go to a diner, if you go to a little small barbecue shop that serves all kinds of barbecue, their sauces are always better. Yep. They just are. Yep. They're just way better. I, uh, I, and this is one thing that you guys might not know about me. I think barbecue food is probably my favorite food.

Like, I can eat barbecue food probably every day because there's so many options that you can pick from. There's different sauces, different, all, I don't really like vegetables. So you get me cream corn, you get me mashed potatoes, baked potato, corn bread. That's like my shit. That's my shit. Get me a tall boy or something, that's like my favorite. So, yeah. All right.

Moving on. Yeah. Farm goals for the next 10 years. We skipped one. Oh, we did? Yeah, I want to do that one. I want to start. Oh, yeah.

Although this is good. Do you ever think animal agriculture will be 100% autonomous? This is something that dad and I have sat and talked off camera about a lot and off podcast a lot. There's, you know, we have a really productive system and it's just like when Russ Vering was on the show, you know, we have a productive system of how we do things in pork production and in livestock in general, but specifically pork production, you know, we just, we can make it better potentially with just using technology in different ways. And it's, and the system's good. It just, we can make it better.

why not try to make it better? And these barns are set up in a way that I think, I don't think the layout is going to really change all too much. I mean, the infrastructure of how many barns have been built a certain way has kind of been built. I don't see there being a huge change in how these buildings are built. So it's just kind of like, how can we make it better for the caretaker?

Because labor is a huge problem. You know, we can't find enough guys to load these pigs, chore these pigs, work with these pigs every day. And that's what animal agriculture requires. That's kind of the necessary evil with it. So I think using tech is huge. And if we can, we can really solve a lot of problems. But like one thing we were thinking about, you know, that would be kind of cool is, you know,

and you know that this is coming down the pipe, but cameras in the feeders, you know, if we can somehow figure out, if somehow this feeder's smart enough, it's got software in it or something or it's hooked up to an app that's smart enough to have software, it knows every pig that comes to that feeder, and it knows, it, like, knows if that, it knows every pig that comes to feeder that day. So then you know if there's a pig that didn't come to that feeder, they're probably not feeling great.

Or if there's cameras in the barn that are, I don't know, what are they thermal, and they can kind of tell what the body temp of each pig is, that would be cool. Or it identifies if there's a dead pig in the pen. That would be cool. We talked about one time they're being boxes at the end of the barn. Metal boxes and they would open up and a drone would fly out. Circle around and scan and make sure that, oh, is that pig, you know,

just read the body temp of each pig and see if there's a dead pig or anything like that and just kind of scan the room and then go back into the box. And it kind of gives you that video update and it gives you a status report of all the dead pigs or pigs that might be a little sick or have an ailment, and then show you all the rest of the good pigs. And that's something that I think if we can figure out a way to identify the fallbacks, identify the dead pigs, it will make everything more efficient.

Because if you get your report, when you wake up and you get an in-app notification or an email or however it works, and it gives you your status report of what's happening in your barn and what you've got to do, and oh, there's a dead pig in 1056, and that's the only dead pig in the barn today. And, oh, I see that the feed is in the feeders and the water's working,

because I can see that all on the video, and then I know I got to go treat pigs in this pen and then this pen, because these guys, or go check them out and see if they are sick or not. If they are, I got to treat them. That makes the job of the caretaker way more efficient because you're wasting time, and I know it's not a lot of time,

but you're walking. You're checking pigs, you know, You're looking for dead pigs. You're looking for sick. Featers adjustments. You're walking and making sure all this happens. But you're kind of at an advantage when if you woke up and got a status support, you kind of know, okay, this is what I'm doing when I get in this barn, like, right away.

I know. This is what I'm doing. I agree 100%. And I think if you take all of those technologies to their logical conclusion, I think where we're headed is eventually we will just chip every pig when it leaves the south farm. And that chip will give you a status report on the pig, and you'll know if that pig has got a temperature or has, you know, anything wrong with it. and that coupled with what you're talking about as far as we know today we know we know how many gallons of water

the pigs are drinking all the time and we can chart that usage and from the day you first fill a barn until the day they go out the water usage incrementally goes up every day because as a pig grows the pounds of the pounds of pork that are there are such a percent of water and they drink so much water every day and so over that cycle your water usage

should go up every day and if it levels out or goes down you know that your pigs are probably getting sick so that part of it's already there we already have scales some people do some people don't but we have the technology of putting scales on these bins to know how much feed has gone into the building. So you can say, okay, we know how much feeds being eaten every day,

which obviously if that chart is moving also, you know that all the feeders are getting filled. Yeah, there's a lot of elements to making a productive barn of pigs flow well. I mean, you got the feed, you got to automate. You got the water, you got to automate, which water is pretty much there. You got the pig But the, yeah, the thing that's the most is the actual pigs, like taking care of those pigs. There's no, even though we have all of that,

there's just that odd ball thing that can happen. I'll give you a perfect example. Any of you out there that race pigs that have ever walked into a hog building and you walk up to a dry box feeder and there is a pig in the feeder because it happens. I've seen, I had it happen.

I've had a pig, get into a feeder. An empty feeder? No, like get into a full feeder and get like flipped over upside down and get stuck between the brace in the feeder. Like, and they weren't out of feed or anything like that. They literally were just. Messing around. Fighting or jumping or whatever and got up there and then thought, oh, I'm up here. And I got all this feed.

And so they like climbed in the feeder and then got stuck in it. Or somehow a pig gets up on a gate and gets a hold of a temperature sensor, and then your controller gets out of whack. Or, you know, they get a hog panel off on the gate. Or they break out. Yeah, they break out. So there are so many things that you can't. Technology can give you all this information,

but it can't tell you something that's happened out of the measurables. Yeah. And that's where you can't make up having people, go through the barns every day unless you have a drone that flies gives you that or a Tesla bot or something. So when you're talking 10 years from now,

10 years from now, I think that we will be to the point where you probably won't have people choreing the barns every barn every barn every day. I think it's longer in 10 years because you've got to give

ag is so behind. Ag is so behind when it comes to technology, they won't be adopting that in 10 years. It'll be like 20 years. Well, in 20 years, I won't care. Yeah. Well, you act like you're going to be dead in 20 years. No, I just won't care.

Yeah. You'll tell me about your problems. I go, boy, that sucks. That sounds shitty. But no, I got to go. We're teeing off. I don't know if you'll ever be able to automate it all. I mean, yeah, if you get a fucking robot in there, yeah, you'll probably able to automate

a lot of it. Or a gorilla that's trained and get them to load pigs for you. That'd be awesome. but I don't know if you'll ever be able to automate it. I think you'll be 100% where you just never have to go into one of these barns, but I think you can get it pretty damn close. I think you can get it really close. I think the feed is really close to being fully automated.

You've got bin vibrators, you've got scales. If they put cameras in the bin, they automatically order a bin for you. That's awesome. You already got the chart, the graphing of the water usage data. We got alarms set up on those water meters. If anything happens, we know that, oh, there's something wrong with the water. We got to go up there. The alarm systems are getting better.

The controllers are getting better. If we can just find a way to somehow get a video feed in there to be able to tell or the chip in a pig, to be able to tell the temperature, to be able to tell if a pig's sick, be able to tell if a pig's dead. And you'll be able to see if pigs are out of their pin, if the feeders are out of feed, if whatever, you'll be able to see all that stuff. I think it can make everything faster. I think one of the biggest hurdles in all of this is, is there's a disconnect because so we get paid the same.

We're contract growers and we get paid the same no matter what. So there's no incentive for us to spend a bunch of money on these technologies to make the pigs more efficient. basically there's no incentive for us to help the integrator because we don't own the pigs. Now, if it helps us save time and our time, we can quantify that it's worth it because it saves us this much time that we can be doing something else, then that's something that we can make the decision and say, okay, we should spend the money for that. And a perfect example of that is bin vibrators.

Because the integrator that we feed for, they didn't pay us to put those bin vibrators. on. But it saves so much time of us having to beat on bins and we can quantify that and say, you know, over the last five years that we've had them, I mean, I can't imagine how much time I've saved not having to beat on bins. And not beating on bins is good for the bins too. But when we start talking about the cameras and chipping the pigs and integrating all this stuff, somebody has to pay for that and if you're on the integrator side they don't really want to spend the money on it

because they don't own it. In other words, they don't want to spend money on something that goes into your barn even though they're their pigs, but they don't own it. And so, and let's face it, the margins are thin on production agriculture. It's a hard, that's a hard spot to be in. Yeah, it's just like a black hole,

there where everyone's building these barns for everything that they need to get that contract and make it to the integrator standards but they're not going to go most guys don't go above and beyond well and then if you're on the integrator's side why would you if you're on the integrator side you can't mandate and cargill went down this road when i can pick on them because they sold their business to jbs but you know they had all these ideas when we were building buildings for them, they wanted all this stuff. And it was great.

The only problem is they're competing for people to grow for them with every other integrator. So if you, if you're paying the same amount per pig space, but your barn is $10 a pig space higher, who am I going to build a barn for? Well, it ain't going to be for you because why. And so they're in competition,

and the growers, you know, they've only got so much money, and they're working on, I can do the bare minimum, and I get paid the same whether I build Cadillac Barn. So it's just, it's tough. That's got to get figured out. But I think at some point, the numbers will be on the side of spending the money for that automation. And if we get to that point, I think a lot will happen fast.

Yeah. Farm goals for the next 10 years. Farm goals for the next 10 years. Don't say some bullshit like get a swivel coozy. We all know that's full. This guy likes to say that he's like on the sidelines. In 10 years, he just wants to have a swivel coozy and mow all the yard, get all the crap.

Bullshit. He likes the trenches just as much as my brother and I, so don't let him foyer at all. Well, in 10 years, in 10 years, I'd like to have 10,200 hit finishing buildings if we're still doing it. we got four right now. I'd like to have 10. I like it.

Just because I think that that, I think the manure is going to be so valuable that I think will make as much money off of the fertilizer. I think in 10 years, commercial fertilizer may be just about dead in the Midwest. I think anywhere that there is hog production, I think that commercial fertilizer will be dead. I don't think farmers will buy it. Because I think that it's going to be too volatile, and the quality of it is ass. I mean, there is no comparison between the quality of hog manure versus purchased commercial fertilizer.

It's just not. And if that gets better. Oh, yeah. Hog manure is so much better. And if they make it better, like what Russ was talking about. Yeah. If it gets better as far as the nutrient value and all that, then it's a no-brainer.

If you can pull the water out of it to where you've got a product that the cost of transportation is that low and the product is consistent, commercial fertilizer doesn't serve any purpose because it's too expensive and it's inferior to that. So I think owning hog buildings, not even so much as the value of the rent of the hog building. I think the value of the manure in those pits and being able to sell that or use it for yourself will be worth a lot. In 10 years, I don't think that we'll plant. I don't think that we'll plant a crop. I think that it will be done autonomously.

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And I think equipment, I think we've seen the, I think we've seen the peak of size of equipment. I don't think that equipment's going to get any bigger than where we are. I think it's going to go the other way. But I think it's going to be way smarter. I think you're going to get to autonomous, landing, and tillage. Combining, I don't, I just don't see. I think it'll be possible that you could. combine autonomously, but I don't think you will because there's so many variables as far as

the unloading and things that can break because let's face it, a combine is nothing but a contraption. I mean, if you think a planner is complicated, a combine is just nothing but a contraption. And there's so many things that can go wrong that to not have somebody there, I just don't know whether we'll get to a point that it makes sense to try to do that. But definitely on the planning and tillage, if you're doing tillage, I think that. that'll be done autonomously. It sounds like predictions. Yeah, kind of.

Is this a goal to get it? In 10 years, do you want to be able to point? Do you want it to be fully autonomous? In 10 years, I want to plant my own crop. David, David will be all about it, so it won't matter. But I think, when I think about wanting to own a planner, to me, it only makes sense if I can have that to where it can be productive. my time is valuable enough that or our time is valuable enough.

Like, why wouldn't we have, if the technology is there, why would we not have, have it just plant for us? I just think that that's the thing to do. Because I think we're already diversified, but in 10 years, I think we'll be doing a lot more than what we are today. I was going to say, I was talking to Grant Hilbert on the phone the other night. We keep in contact fairly, not regularly, but we talk every once in a while,

and I haven't talked to him since probably came on this podcast year ago, and we just caught up. And this is a true statement that he said that I really think is the truth. You know, if you study the largest landowners in Iowa, every single one of them has a business off the farm. And they're not the ones in the tractor planting. They're not the ones in the combine combining. They might do it sometimes, but they're not doing it every day.

And that's a personal decision for every farmer out there. If you love the game and you want to be a farmer and you want to get by and you just want to do what you love, and that's what you want to do, that's what you should do. But if you want to grow a big operation, you've got to sit down with yourself and ask yourself, the way that you're going to do that is you're going to have to, your time is your most valuable asset and you're going to have to use your time to grow and figure out every way to grow your farm rather than work in your farm.

Work, spend all your time dedicated to labor on your farm. Because, or have somebody on your farm that is dedicated to growth and then you can do all the labor. But you got to have somebody on your operation that is focusing on growing the farm in whatever avenue or whatever way you think that is, that is going to get you to grow. that's what it's got to come down to.

And that's the dirty, that's the dirty little secret. No one wants to talk to you about when it comes to farming. Like, you want to grow your farm. You got to do, you got to do shit that not everybody's doing and you can't be in the tractor all the time. That's the truth. And my next 10 years goal, 10 years from now, my goal is do some businesses off the farm that help create income

to now grow the farm. Go buy more acres. Buy more hog buildings. build more hawk buildings whatever we got to do keep doing this keep providing really good content for you guys and I don't ever get it twisted in the fact that don't ever think that I don't want to farm because I do

I love farming I love doing the work but I understand that on the flip side of that I understand if I want to grow this farm I got to focus on business things too so I will always be a farm kid at heart and always want to do farm work but will I always do it and be the one always running and gunning and be in the labor every step of the way? I don't know if I will because I think that's not probably the smart thing to do. And maybe that changes as I get older and I'm like, fuck it, I don't care.

I don't want to grow it any further. I just want to just do what I love and then I'll do that. But I love also growing things. So we'll just see. And that's a personal decision once I get there. But I see more hog barns, more great. business off, businesses off the farm and keep growing the social media and providing value and meet more people and just showing what we do as farmers.

I think we can do continue to grow the following, continue to grow the podcast, continue to grow the farm, continue to grow businesses. I think along that line, it's so interesting. And I don't know if other industries are this way or not. But yesterday we were sitting here and we were having a conversation with a gal that works in social media with a company that we do some stuff with. And she was telling us

kind of her and her husband's story about, you know, the businesses that they have so that they can afford to farm. And we made the comment, isn't it funny how there is something about ag that people are willing to work two other jobs

to afford to be able to farm. Be able to afford to work again. Work more. To work more, yeah. To work two jobs to come home and work. Which, I don't know, it's just something, it's, you either have it or you don't. And I don't know if other industries are that way or not.

I don't feel like they are. But there's something about ag that we're our own worst enemies because we have a strong sense of community for each other, but then we compete against each other incredibly hard, you know, and we run up cash rent, and we try to produce more bushels than the next guy to sell at a lower price so that we can all afford to keep going and we'll work off the farm to be able to afford to farm.

That's just a strange. It's a strange phenomenon. It's unique. It is unique. I mean, it's, and there's, don't get it twisted. There's nothing better than providing a need to the world. Providing food to the world,

you're not providing some, some gadget, some new thing that's going to make you look better. It's not a want. You're providing a freaking need to the world. You're providing food. You're providing food. That corn, yeah, it doesn't,

it's feeding the pig. Feeding livestock, you get fed that way, but it's also making products that are need, they're a need, you know, that corn gets made into so many things. But it's a lot of the stuff, there's just not something out there. There's not a lot of things out there that give you that satisfaction, give you that fulfillment that you are helping in a big way, you know, you really are. So that's also unique for ag. But yeah, it's funny that a lot of people work to then come home and work more.

Yeah, my other... To afford to work more. My other 10-year goal is you'll get a lot less work out of me because I'm going to take my job of grandfathering very seriously. Yeah. I'm going to be... I'm going to go fishing, hunt for Bigfoot, build a lot of couch tents.

I like it. I like it. A lot of ice cream. I like it. A lot of nights with my wife. wife alone. I'll need that. Yeah, the ROI for you is better, so you'll do it whenever you want. Okay, well, one question left. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. So we were setting up, we were setting up today, and Sawyer's phone went off, and it was my first inkling that's that time. That time of year, because it was his, it was his alert, it was his lert that that fantasy football had started. So, yeah. What are your NFL predictions for the year and how does your fantasy team stack up? Yeah, this is a fun one.

We don't talk about sports often, but I love the NFL. And I love football, plain and simple, and I'm ready for this season. I'm ready to get, I'm ready to smoke some wings, make a bowl of chili, make something hearty. Get my blanket on one Sunday if I'm done with everything. Sit down on my couch, turn on the TV, and watch some NFL football. college on Saturday, whatever. I'm ready for that because it is fun. It is a, it's a good getaway for me. I enjoy football. So my NFL prediction, I guess I'll just do Super Bowl prediction. And I'll tell you what I think the Cowboys are going to do. The Cowboys this year, I think they'll get, I think they'll go 10, 10 and 7.

Wait, yeah, 10 and 7. Wait, no, it's 10 and 6. I think they'll go 10 and 6. I think they'll make the playoffs as a wild card, but I think the Eagles are going to win the division. I think the Eagles got a a banger team in the NFCEs. So I'm kind of worried about the Eagles. I think Jalen Hertz is going to come alive, and I think they stack up well against the Cowboys. And I just think of losing Amari Cooper, not very good because if CD gets hurt,

we're going to be screwed. But I think Dack's going to step up in a big way and show he's the franchise quarterback this year. I mean, he showed that a little bit last year, but he's got to really show it this year. I think we'll make the playoffs. And I'm hoping, I'm hoping we, get past the divisional round.

You know, that would be really good. You know, let's get past that goal before we say we're going to win a Super Bowl. I'm not one of those Cowboys fans that say we're going to go to Super Bowl every year. That's not me. I haven't seen one in my whole life. They've let me down. I've seen plenty of eight and eight seasons many times, so I'm not one of those guys. But I am rooting for them, and I hope they surprise me like the Bengals surprised

all the Houda fans out there. But my Super Bowl prediction is I think the Chargers, that AFC West division with the Broncos, the Chargers, the Raiders, and, um, no, Broncos, Raiders, Chargers, Chiefs. That is, I has a hard division. But I think the Chargers are going to go to Super Bowl. I think Justin Herber is a stud. I think their defense has got some studs on it.

I think they got a complete team. And then in the NFC, there's just so many things. don't think the Packers are going to make. I think Rogers is never going to go back to a Super Bowl. Ford Niners, if Trey Lance is good, I think they'll go to the Super Bowl because if he's good, their team's complete. But I think in the NFC, I think Tom Brady's going to get it. I think Tom Brady's going to come back. And he, if you watch that playoff game last year against the Rams, they were so close to beating them. He almost came back and won. And then he would have probably been, he would have went to the Super Bowl. So I think Tampa's going to make a run and it'll be the

Rogers versus Tampa Bay. And I don't, I don't care what happens then because that's a good game. I like Justin Herber. I like Tom Brady. But as far as my fantasy team goes, if any of you play fancy football or if you watch football, you're not playing fantasy, I highly recommend because it is fun. It makes the NFL season so much more enjoyable. But I want you guys to rate my team, what you think.

I had the fourth pick in a 10-man PPR league. I got Russell Wilson is my quarterback. DeAndre Swift is my running back. My running back two is kind of sketch. I got J.K. Dobbins or Miles Sanders from the Eagles. Justin Jefferson, he was my first round pick. Tyreek Hill, Kyle Pitts, Alan Robinson. I got the commanders as the defense, and then Dan Carlson, the kicker from the Raiders.

And then my flex and my running back two is my weak spot, but I think I got a pretty underrated team. I think Russell Wilson's going to go off this year. So we'll just see, but I'm pretty, I'm pretty amped about my team. I think it's a sleeper. I think I got a lot of potential there. But if any of you play fantasy football, good luck.

Good luck to you. And I can't wait for the NFL season to start. When will the trade start? Have you already got trade? I, you know, I think I do this too much in years where I have a solid team. Because you get in your head too much and fancy. This year, I'm going to just ride. I'm going to ride it.

I'm going to ride it out. I'm going to play the waiver wire. play the free agent game and see if I can pick up some guys when they're just like because there's always guys that get injured and then their backup running backs come in they start there's a few that just are beasts and if you can pick them up early you got a gold mine so I'm going to just play the waiver wire and I just don't see myself trading much unless somebody gives me a stupid deal where I'm getting some studs then it might change but I don't think I'm going to offer very much not to put you on the spot but just off the top of your head

Most overrated fantasy player that everybody always wants and most underrated fantasy player. This year, I think Derek Henry is overrated. I think Derek Henry has had a hell of a run. He's King Henry, but I just don't think that Titans' offense. I don't think that Titans team is going to be as good this year. I think they lost too many, they lost A.J. Brown, and that's not going to open things up for Henry, and everyone's going to key in on him. I know he's a beast.

I know they got a good O line. not as good as the last year's O line. I just don't think that that's going to, he's going to be as good as he once was. I think he'll be a good player in real NFL. I think he'll exceed 1,000 yards, but is he going to be the top rated running back this year? No.

Underrated, I got a few underrated guys that was kind of later in the draft. I think Alan Robinson from the Rams is coming off an ACL injury, or he tore, something, maybe it was at Achilles, but he was at the Bears. He was at the Jaguars and went to the Bears, went good for the Bears and got hurt and kind of seen the decline, but he's playing with the best quarterback he's ever had in his career. He's like 29 years old, and when he was early in his

career for like five years straight, he was a stud. And people are saying at Rams Camp that he is falling out. And so I think he can fill Robert Woods position really good. I think he'll be a really good number two option behind Cooper Cup. Because I think his route running has always been phenomenal. I think Matthew Stafford's going to feed him the rock whenever he can get him the rock. So I think he's an underrated. Other than that, I think DeAndre Swift, I got him. I'm kind of biased.

But I think the Lions are going to absolutely run the shit out of DeAndre Swift. I think he's a stud and he's underrated and I think he's going to fall the fuck out this year. So side note a player like Derek Henry when you see him on TV and I'm totally like not biased. I don't care one way or another. But I'd always heard about Derek Henry and seen some of his highlights. But a few years ago I went to a, we were in Nashville and we went to a Titans game when they played the Buccaneers. And a player like that, when you see them in person, a lot like some of football, looks kind of funny when you go to a game in person because it's not, they kind of hype it up on

television. Oh, they totally do. It looks totally, like it looks no different than going to a college game, really. But I will say that game we went to, it wasn't a great game. That was when the buck, that was pre- Brady, so the buccaneers weren't that good. And it wasn't like a high-scoring game. But Derek Henry went off on a couple of runs. And to just see people try to tackle him and bring him down.

And he got out into open field one time. And I mean, it's like I would be scared to death to be given the task to tackle Derek Henry as an open field. Yeah. Because, I mean, you're not going to. No. And if you do, you're probably going to get hurt. He is an absolute beast. Oh, it's going to hurt.

Yeah. He is an absolute beast. He's big and he's tall and he's big. He's got a moor. Yeah. When he gets going, it's just. He's an absolute stud. So, anyway, that's all there is to it.

Yeah. And I'm also ready for some, some. some college Iowa football. I'm really looking forward to checking them out. I'm hoping I can go to the game this year. One of the games, all the home games are sold out, but if I can find a ticket, I want to go. Because I was at the Penn State game last year when, if you ever watched the Iowa versus Penn State game last year, and they had, Penn State had like five fall starts in a row. This was a night game at Kenick. It was the most electrifying experience I've ever had at a sports event in my life. It was, was the loudest fucking game I've ever been to. I mean, because every single time they fall started,

it just got us more heights and everybody just got louder and louder and louder and louder. I felt like I was at a Chiefs game because I know Chiefs get, it gets loud, but man, the energy of that game last night. Kenick is one of the most underrated stadiums to play. I bet it's one of the, I bet it's one of the hardest stadiums to play at in college football because it is loud and Iowa fans can be ruthless. and Iowa fans are die-hard loyal. They are loyal, and there's beer now at the games, which is awesome. So it's rowdy and it's a good time. So I'm looking forward to it.

I hope I can go to a game this year. Now that beer is allowed wrapping 12-pack of beer in a stadium blanket will be a lost art. The number of people that had it down to a science, how to wrap booze in a stadium blanket, now they're like, damn it. Well, I just put shooters in my boots. I put shooters in my cowboy boots and just let her eat.

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