Barn Talk - Barn Talk Q&A: How to Balance Life, Farm Work, and Pigs?

Episode Date: February 25, 2024

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All of the food we eat and much of the clothing we wear comes from plants and animals that are raised on farms. Farms are different in type, in size, and even in name. Welcome to Barn Talk. What happens at the barn? It stays in the barn, but not today. We're going to let it all out for you guys. Today is going to be a Q&A episode. So if you guys want your questions answered on the show, you can submit them and email them to us at barn talk show at gmail.com. But before we get into it, you guys know the drill.

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and it'll help us out tremendously. As long as you get value, but I promise you probably will. Dad or I will say some dumb shit, they'll make you probably laugh. And value can come in a lot of ways. Wisdom. Come in a lot of ways.

You can learn something. You can laugh. You can learn and laugh. You can learn and laugh. You can relate to us on something. There's many ways of value. You can see what we say and go, hell no, there's no way that that can be true. And you can go look it up for yourself, which that's what we try to inspire people to do.

And there you go. Your own research. That's value. That is value. That is value. That is value going to be dropping today, I think. What's your motto? What's the tagline?

What's the t-shirt? I don't know. You're the t-shirt. Share the show with those you know. Yeah. Share the show with who. Share the show with who you know. Yeah.

I think I said that. You did say that. No, you didn't say it this time. Yeah. I just casually looked on Apple the other day. I rarely check Apple. I usually check Spotify because that's my preferred podcast. Spot, I guess, platform, whatever.

But anyway, I checked Apple. And the Secretary of Ag episode was like 136 on Apple. Wow. That's not too bad. Not too bad. Nope. There's a lot of podcasts out there. I think the highest we've ever ranked on the charts for the business category is like 20, 26, 28 sometime.

It was a hot topic. It was either a hot topics or it was a guest episode. I can't remember. But it's pretty cool. I'd love to be in the top 10 someday, just casually in the top 10 with Rogan up there. And I mean, he's in a category all by himself, literally. I think, like, nobody even comes close. We'll have to get him on the show.

I don't think he'll leave. I don't think he'll leave. Yeah, probably not. I'd like to get on his show, though. Yeah. Just talk about modern day agriculture if you allow it, but I don't know. And we get on there with the pasture, with the White Oak Pasture guy. Yeah. You can have a celebrity grudge match.

Yeah. He's a celebrity and you just got a grudge. You might need a, you might not, might need some, something to keep the. I might need some. Joe would have something. Joe would have something to keep the nerves down probably. Wiosca. Yeah. Ayahuasca.

Iowaska. Yeah. Yeah. You could take some shrooms, maybe. I don't know. We'll have to see. I'm waiting for the phone to ring. Anyway, we kind of got off. Are we good? Yeah, we're good. I think it's time for you to do your deal and let everybody know how the markets are looking. Oh, the markets are trash. They're really trash. Every time that I do a new one and I go get the prices, I'm like, damn, this is not good. So apparently the consensus is that the market is trying to convince people to plant some.

something other than corn or beans. That would probably be wheat. The wheat price, I don't know, historically, it looks a little better to me than what corn and beans are because corn's 406 is where it close today. So we're eerily close to, you know, $3 corn instead of $4 corn instead of $5 corn. And so that's below just about anybody I know of cost of production. And the only good bid locally is 414 at one of the feeders. Beans 1147. At the river, they're 1155 and the Illinois side, 1180. Bean meals $335 a ton, and I forgot to look.

When was the last time that beanmeal was that low, but my guess is it's probably been a while. Wheat, 583, hogs 8720. So not great, but definitely way better than in the 60s and the 70s that they were there for a long time. and if you get out into summer, price looks better. There's a little bit of black ink out there for the hog guys.

And exports are record high. So we are moving a lot of pork. I think some of these packers are running on Saturdays now because they want to get all they can before their margin goes to crap. So all good signs for the hog business, I guess. Cattle 183. That shit's going. I looked at futures the other day.

that they're saying like 192 yeah looking like somewhere i don't remember what the day was or what the month was but soyer's getting to put on his uh god his uh meat buying hat and when he does he looks at the cattle price and it kind of makes his butthole pucker a little bit because he's trying to figure out how i'm gonna make stuff pencil on the cattle side of thing i'm yeah it's yep uh feeder cattle two 52 milk somebody message us and said hey you should put milk get a price for milk so uh this is class three milk so there's class four milk class three milk i would assume there's lower grade than that maybe but the two that i found was class three and four class three is a little cheaper uh and that's hundred weight i do believe so 1795 is the price of milk and i honestly

don't know if that's good or bad somebody can message us and tell us if that's a decent price or not don't know they have they got titney milk on there uh no is this from is this from utter or titties? Utter. Maybe tities is under the... Be clarified. I think you got to go to Vegas for that. Oh, that's what they sell on that corner.

They sell on that corner. I think somewhere on the dark web, you can probably get that. And that's not goat milk. That's a different... That price is probably outrageous. Well, it depends. That's one of those deals where whatever it costs you up front, it could cost you a hell of a lot.

On the back end. On the back end. Yeah. So, I don't know. Source your titty's right, is what it's... when it comes down to. Boy, we are really digressing quickly today. Boy, what did you do?

Have a slim gym? This is pure energy. This is pure energy right here. Damn. Yeah. So that's that. We'll just leave that there. Oil, 78 bucks and change.

Bitcoin, 51,000. Ethereum's just about 3,000. Gold, 2013. And I thought I would just, I saw Brad Frecking put the the stock quote for Beyond Meat on his on his Twitter account and so I did a little looking Beyond Meat closed today at $7.62 a share they have earnings coming out pretty soon. The high for Beyond Meat was on October 5th of 2020 where it was $194 a share and everybody thought

that it was the hot new thing coming and apparently people have not they have not with her pocketbooks and they're not doing very well. Not quite a penny stock yet, but $7.62. So we'll just end on that. That was real good market update. They are also on Beyond Meat. They are, I think this is true. Do your own research. I read it on Twitter, which is one notch above just straight internet. So it's got to be true. Somebody said they're simplifying the recipe on the Beyond Burger instead of 22 ingredients now. It's like 20 ingredients. So, pure, more purer. More pure.

Yep. Got to, got to listen to your customers, man. Uh-huh. Yeah. I'm glad the pushback is real. Pushback is happening. I don't think it's just beyond me. It's everything.

People are pissed. No plant-based burger available on Farage. People are fed up with that shit. No. Hell no. We'll never have that option. Don't even ask me. Don't even ask me.

There's a lot of people. You'll be surprised at how many questions you get about just meat that people ask. I've yet to see that one and I hope I never do because it ain't ever happening. That ain't meat to me. All right. So great market update and I'll just say, you know, yeah, we got off a little bit there, but that's what makes it fun. Oh, hey, one more thing.

And I do love titties and I do, I'm a little frugal. Or I'm a little, I'm a little in my personal life and with my family and who I'm comfortable with. I have kind of a, what would you say? I can cross. No filter. No filter. No filter whatsoever.

Yeah. There isn't anybody that, well, I should say, Sawyer does not shy away from any subject around the dinner table. And the number of times that he has made his mother blush, it's a lot. It's a lot. Out of anger. Because there is no subject in Sawyer's life that he doesn't care about sharing if he's

interested in. With the right people for sure. And you guys are like family. So, you know, I'm getting out of my shell slowly but surely here. Yeah, you're good. Just let you know. I do love titties. All right.

So we're going to start this off with question number one. And this is for you, Dad. So Travis asked, would you ever use an AI program for your consulting needs? Agrotomy, nutrition, marketing, etc. If someone made a program that could pick your seed chemical or feed ration, would you use that over your local rep? Well, I'll give you the answer for that one. Pretty simple.

Service is shit. and AI gets better? I don't know. Probably. Yeah, I mean, I think that I would. And I also think that, let's face it, I'm sure that a lot of these agronomy companies, and they're going to use it.

They're going to figure it out. They're going to use it anyway, because labor is so, labor is so stretched so thin that, you know, they're going to use, if that technology gets good enough in their business to where, one guy can cover more customers they're going to do it um i feel like that's just the kind of that's kind of like exactly the kind of uh role where you would expect AI to take off because you've got such a

the power of that is an AI can scour all of the research data that is out there all the plots all the yields all the you know and just literally scour that consolidate it boil it down somebody's got that where it can you know if it knows your soil type where you're living yeah it's it's a data driven it's a data driven decision anyway and so i just think that that's probably uh if it's not already here it's i'm sure it's coming yeah i would say that's probably one of the better uses of a i when you talk about AI and human evolution i think AI can help us in a number of ways not just an agriculture, but science and just a bunch of shit because it's almost like, you know, it's your helper. It's helping you analyze data and make data-driven decisions. Now, is AI going to be

like, is AI going to be one of these things when in 10 years, 20 years in the future where what's happened to social media happened to AI where people have their bloody hands on social media, like, you know, like Twitter where the FBI, CIA had access to Twitter and the Twitter five, and there's some corrupt shit going on with these social media platforms that's all coming out? Is that going to be the case for AI where it's skewed data for what they want you to see? I don't know. But if it's the real functioning AI that they try to tell us it is where it's, there's no, nobody's got control over it, the data that comes out of it,

that's a good use case for AI, in my opinion. If you can get a pure research-driven answer, I think that's great use for AI. people that are doing research, I think it's great because you've got the ability to just go through vast amount of data much faster than you could before. And biology and agronomy and all those things, I think it would suit itself to that very well. Now, what I'm not going to do is put on Apple's VR goggles and go out in my field and analyze soil types that way. You'll never catch me wearing those goofy looking things. Yeah. I'm not going to do is put on Apple's VR goggles and go out in my field and analyze soil types that way. Yeah, I, when they get those things down to where they look like my, my Raybans, my Wayfares, then maybe.

But I'm not, I'm not into that goggle. I mean, not to get off, but I, the guy just put it one way. He's like, you know what? Are we really going to come to a point in society where we're literally got fucking goggles on our face walking around everywhere? Is it? I mean, this whole technology revolution, we've talked about it on the show so many times, it's like, are we really going to get to this point? where we're going to just take the next step and put fucking a computer on a phone on our face

and just have it attached to our face all day, do we really want to go down this road? Yep. It's kind of we're at this crossing point. You know, I feel like we've just accepted technology and all the new gadgets. But at some point we got to kind of, as humans, look around and be like, all right, guys, this is probably a little too much.

Yeah, well, I mean, it's all right. It's like I find it hard to believe that that will become, mainstream because even to this day oh be careful well i know but think think about this some got somebody's gonna clip this up in 30 years and just somebody'll clip this up in two weeks and be ranting about something probably uh but when you think about uh just like just like earbuds air pods yeah yeah uh nobody wants to be that guy at the airport that's like having an argument for like call somebody and is on their air pause.

The douchebag business guy. Yeah. And then he's like having an argument with somebody pacing back and forth for everybody to hear. Yeah. Nobody likes that guy. Yeah.

And so then when I think about that same guy with goggles on his face. And running his hands up and, you know, having that same kind of, yeah, nobody, somebody's going to just, somebody's just going to push that guy

down the escalator. Yeah. Because that's, no, we don't need that. Yeah. I think it'll be a long time. before that's accepted. Yeah.

So, yep. Ah, let's see. Oh, this is right up your alley because I didn't take any steps. So what steps did you take to start your meat business? Specifically marketing. I'm struggling to get leads for my business right now. Yeah, this is, and this is something that I'm working on every single day inside

Farmer grade because I'm actually reading good source of trying to learn leads is there's a really good book out there, $100 million leads by Alex Ramosey. Alex Ramosey is like probably one of the top business minds on social media right now. I highly recommend you check out that book and check that out. But I could just speak on the experience I've had so far. I think when it comes to starting your marketing plan, I would definitely, you got to start with a good product. You got to start with a solid product. It doesn't have to be perfect in the beginning, but it's got to be good enough that it's, you know, it can sell, right? And you can always improve on the product as you progress. Then I would say you got to have a you got to have a good looking website.

You got to have a website that gets people to convert, you know, you don't want it to be, you know, you want it to be professional. You want it to be easy to use so people can easily use it and easily shop on it. Then I would say organic, because this is all, all this is fairly, this isn't like paid advertising yet. We're not into that. This is just getting a good product, getting a good website. Yeah, the website's going to cost you money and developing a product's going cost you money but that's just reality's a business when it gets to the marketing side of things i recommend organic trying to come up with an organic growth strategy organic content strategy that you can post on your own social media your own business social media that works for me what's

been really working if you go look at farmer grades instagram what i've started to do is i've started to pack people's orders you know and like show them their meat order and like that works for me and what I'm doing and it's really worked. And that was a piece of content that I was like, wow, that really worked. I'm going to do more of that. And so I've kind of, you know, diversed it a little bit more, adding more elements of organic, different types of content inside organic content. And like, we've got a lot of leads just organically through what we're already posting. And it also helps on the organic side when you have your own personal brand or a brand that you're already associated with that can help market and bring leads that way, like we're doing here at

barn talk like we're doing it. This will do farm. So that also helps a lot. And I'm just kind of laying this out step by step because you kind of ask for the steps. And then I would say Facebook and Instagram ads, you know, that's something that I'm learning every single day. And there's a lot of agencies out there and people out there that know that better than probably you do. But you can learn anything. So if you put your time into it, you can learn it. But Facebook and Instagram ads, they're timeless. It's one of the most, I mean, the biggest companies in the entire world spend a lot of money through Facebook ads. I mean, everybody's marketing on Facebook, and they're getting so good with AI technology.

They know exactly who to target and where to target and all that stuff. So that's where I would probably move next. And then email marketing, you've got to build an email marketing team to build up your email list and market people that come to your website, Google AdWords, and then I would say YouTube ads. So those are all kind of things you can do. And that's all digital. That's not going to pop-ups. That's not going to, you know, like in my case, farmer's markets. That's not me going into restaurants and trying to wholesale my product. There's another, there's a bunch of other ways. But when you're talking about digital media, that would, that's the way I'm going to go about it. You know, that's the way I'm going to go about it. Kind of start at your cheapest first. And as you continue to sell more, get more into paid ads. and just kind of develop a well-oiled marketing machine. It's kind of where my head's at. And yeah, there's a lot of good ways to get leads,

and there's a lot of stuff in those steps. I kind of made it sound super simple, but when you talk about offers and you talk about, you know, sales and you talk about discounts and you talk about times of the year, like there's so many things that go into all those steps, but that's kind of the steps that I think will help you get on the path of knowing what the hell to do. Because that's part of the thing that I think sucks about business is when you don't know what to do next,

that's the hardest part. Like when you get to a crossroad inside your business and you're like, what the hell do I do from here? That sucks. I hate that feeling. But at least when you know what to do, then you just got to do it. And I like doing that way more than not knowing where to go. The only thing that I'll add to everything that you've said,

because most of it I don't do anything with, but when you get somebody that comes to your site, you have to start with the idea that you are going to make the process of somebody buying your product as smooth as possible. Because if you have gotten, Like if you've gotten somebody to come to your site, like, that's the hardest. Well, actually, no, getting them to buy it is the hardest. But one of the hardest things is you've got them like 95 yards.

You've got them to your site. But if you don't make that experience of buying your product smooth and have a website that's not glitchy and that is well laid out, you want it to where when they get there and they look at that product from the time they look at that product to put it in their cart to checking it out to doing their payment information to having the confirmation that it's ordered and get a ship like that is something that you've got to spend the time to make sure that that works because nothing there's a lot of people and i i've looked at this you know all all look at a product or something and i'll go to

a website and if it is crap to navigate i'm out i'm out i'm out. I mean, Amazon screwed. Amazon screwed everybody because it's so, yeah, Amazon's not the most aesthetically pleasing looking website, but when you talk about getting people to convert, they can get people to convert like that. So easy. They've made it so easy for you to purchase. And like, you can't get to that level because, you know, you got to spend a lot of money to make that happen. There's a lot of code and stuff that goes into that. But there, you can make it happen. you can definitely make it easy to navigate. And I would just say,

the other thing that helps bring sales is referrals. And so that gets back to your product. You can do all this marketing and get all these leads. But if your product isn't good enough and people aren't coming back to buy it, then you'll always be in this hamster wheel having to market and market to new people. And you're getting nobody that's already purchased to buy again. And that's a bad place to be because you'll end up just market. your whole life and companies aren't like that there's you got to have a mix of new business

and a mix of of customers that not only keep buying from you that but also tell their friend and bring customers and that's that's free marketing right there so that gets back to product so got to find this balance of marketing and trying to make your product better and getting repeat customers and referrals it's a it's a wick and it's a business is a there's a lot of elements go into it. So how do you do? How do you do it? So the next question is...

Well, I got to ask you a question. Okay. All right. Oh, you're right. Yeah, there is another question. I was going to just jump right. Yeah, you were just Jones in, huh? So Matt asks,

is there any new technology in barn construction that combines free-to-room theory with standard confinement-type facilities? Geothermal heat, separating manure, solar backup, up, et cetera. Wow. Yes.

I have some thoughts on that. Yes. So it's funny how there's a saying in the construction world as far as ag, like in the hog business, and I'm sure it's the same for other ones that there are no new ideas.

Like stuff is just recycled. And so just as an example, your geothermal idea. The finisher that my dad built in 1972, it had hot water floor heat in it. It was sloped, two sloped floor slats in the middle, and they put piping in the concrete,

and it ran to a boiler, and the idea was that they were going to heat it that way instead of having to put in forest air heaters and all that, and it worked okay until the concrete. shifted enough and the pipes started to leak and then they never used it. I don't know how many years that took. I sold a nursery to a guy up, I want to say kind of up by maybe Troy Mills that he he poured, he built a nursery with concrete slats and he poured the slats himself and within him he put pex pipe and he did basically like guys do with shop floors and he hooked all of that together and he

had hot water floor heat in this nursery and that was his idea that it was going to be the problem was that you didn't have to you didn't have to exhaust near as much air because you didn't have that cycle of pumping hot air in and then it cooling off and getting hot cooling off which was good except because your air exchange wasn't as much the floor sweat and he had humidity problems and the pens were messy and all that. So there's all of that to say that there's all kinds of ideas on how to make buildings better, more efficient, better for the pigs. The large pen design or the free-to- roam design, there was a time in the hog business, mid-90s, late 90s, I would say.

JBS, car guilt time, but JBS today, they really got big into basically what we called scale barns where there really wasn't much for penning.

You ran these really large groups of pigs and they had to go through a scale to get into what they called the food court and all the pigs just mingled and it was a big free-to-roam model. The problem that they had with it was that it was hard for anybody if you had pigs that got, that had health issues that you had to sort out. It was difficult to sort them out. And then there was actually problems with them. They would, you actually had more

leg problems. You had more injuries because the pigs would get all riled up and they would take off running from one end of the barn to the other and if you ever seen a bunch of pigs take off running they're really good on the acceleration part they're not very good on stopping and they kind of it's kind of like watching stampede stampede yeah and it's kind of like watching turkeys land when they fly they don't really land they just they just stall out and then they crash and that's kind of what pigs do they just kind of they either skid on their butt or they run into somebody Anyway, they had a lot of leg problems, and they burned so much energy running around that their average daily gain actually suffered, I think. Either their average daily gain suffered or their feed efficiency wasn't as good because they were basically burning too much energy instead of converting that to weight.

We have some ideas that we'd like to try as far as as we grow our business and we have more control over how we raise our pigs. I mean, we have some ideas that we'd like to try, but you've got to have a budget to try it because you've got to have a market and you've got to have a market for it. The other thing is we're definitely going to separate manure. We've been talking about this for a while. and we get closer every week, but there's an awful lot of, there's an awful lot of ducks in a row, a lot of the science side and the algorithm side,

and just, there's a lot more to it than what we thought, and we're getting closer every week, but we will be separating manure here at our facilities, and we'll let you know how that goes. But I think people, people are always trying to, make the environment better for the animal because a pig that is happy, healthy, better air,

better water, better ventilation is going to grow better. So that's something. The problem is, and this is what the push back and forth, you know, you got all the people that are going to get on and the haters are going to say they need to be outside. Well, there's a reason why we put them inside and it's because we tried to control the environment because it was better for the pig when conditions were adverse. And then the other side of it is to try to produce food at scale. It's very difficult to do outside. And if you're worried about your carbon footprint, turning thousands ahead of hogs, in our case, on dirt is very complex. carbon-intensive if you're worried about that kind of thing.

So definitely the most efficient and the best for the environment, snarky comments, welcome, is put them inside because you can control as many of the controllables as possible. It has the smallest climate footprint, or smallest carbon footprint by putting them inside. Yeah, I would say, I think the ways that you can get better is, freight manure and that make it even more carbon neutral hell, even carbon negative and better for

the environment. Solar, we're already doing solar. I mean, that's kind of being done and that's being done around here more and more because it makes sense for us here in this area. But yeah, I think a big comment we always see from people is just, you know, they want, they either will say the pigs are too crowded or they'll say, do they ever see outside? Do they ever they go outside? Do they ever go outside? do I ever see the outside it's like so I don't know sometimes I just I wonder if there's a way that we're not thinking about doing something on that side of things because it's just that's what the consumers from all the videos we post that's what consumers say that's what people say and yeah you got the snarky uh what do you say vile vegans that like to come at you and just doesn't matter what you do

it's bad in their in their eyes but you know there's people out there that I think there's there's there is merit with what the consumer has to say and the consumer ultimately buys the product. So if they're saying something, then we would be stupid not to listen to them a little bit. But I also get, you have to raise the animal. We know we're farmers. You know, we live it every day. We got to, we got to kind of manage both sides of that best you can. You got to grow an animal.

It's got to be efficient. But you also, there's, I think there's room to listen to the consumer on that, on those side of things. On that side of things. So anyway, that's all. say. Currently today, the only way that our pigs get outside is if I load them up five at a time in my Jeep and drive around the block

and then put those back and get five more. They love that. They do love it. If you've ever seen a dog with his head out the window, that's nothing compared to a pig. They just love it. That bacon on those pigs tastes the best. It does. Yep. Especially if you give them one of those little pinwheel things. And just let them hold it outside.

Yep, they put that in their little dewcloth. and they love that shit. Oh, they love it. Yeah. They're the best. Those do tend to taste the best. Yeah. We might be. Now, my favorite, my favorite taking them outside when they go to the locker. Yes. And then end up at the freezer. That's, I like that. Tasty. That's real tasty. Hey, thanks for sticking with us. We appreciate every single one of you guys. Let's keep this ball rolling. Leave a review on Spotify or Apple. Follow us on YouTube. pay the fee, share it out with who you know. It all helps, guys. We appreciate every single one of you.

We love you. Now, let's get back to the podcast. Yeah, and so that ties right into my next question because that's very labor intensive. And so the question is, how do you guys balance everything between social media, farming, meat business, and personal? I have a really hard time feeling like all I do is work. Any tips or advice would be appreciated. No.

we are piss poor. We're piss poor at that. So we don't have any good advice to give you other than you're not alone and we feel the same way. All right. Nope, go ahead. Yeah. What's your thoughts? I actually had an epiphany this week. I was doing some reflecting this week and just yeah, I would definitely say, no, you're not alone in that. It's really hard when it's hard to not work all the time and feel like you need to work all the time. And, you know, you got stuff to do and you want to get it done and you want to try to go to the next level and you want to try to better yourself and better your family and setting yourself up for the future. And like, that's always at the forefront of our minds. You know, that's our heartbeat or why we do what we do. Um, but I talked to my older

brother the other day. He's a little bit older than me. And I asked him, you know, because sometimes I feel like, and I'm going to get kind of deep here, but sometimes I feel like I don't enjoy the little things in life as much. Like my fiancé cat, she is amazing at enjoying the little things in life. She will, she'll like just the littlest shit and just get the chuckle out of it. And for me, I have a hard time really. I don't know if it's not because I'm in the moment or if it's, I'm just so burned out from the work day or I'm just thinking about all the ideas and stuff that we got to get done or on to the next project that I don't sit and really soak up life, you know?

And some, you know, I was just doing some reflecting this week. And my brother said, you got to put up boundaries with your work, you know. And I've been really doing a piss poor job at that. You know, most of the time we work weekends. Most every day we got something to do. And we really, don't set boundaries with our work for you too much i mean i'm probably the worst out of it you used to be that way when you were running and gunning when you're young but you've gotten a little bit better as you've gotten older which you know that's to that's to be expected especially when you got no kids in the house but for me you know i'm i'm trying to do we're trying to do all this stuff and you know i think it's important to to want to go after more and do more but i also feel like i'm really sucking and put and enjoying the little day, everyday life. And, you know, like a boundary that I'm going to try to set is, you know,

having one day of the week where I just enjoy, put the phone down, put it on, do not disturb, don't even take it with me, and just enjoy my time and enjoy my time with cat and not think about the next project or what I got to do tomorrow or who I need to call or what's got to get done because the work's always going to be there. And you have to just set that phone down, I think, and set up boundaries with your work. Because, yeah, like I said, honestly, it's, I just need to do more of that.

I'm not, I feel like I'm kind of, I wouldn't say empty, but when I'm not thinking about business of doing that stuff, I'm super passionate about, sometimes I feel like I put all my energy in that. when I'm not in that, I don't have much to give to everything else. And that's a problem. That's definitely a problem. And that's definitely not the way I want my life to be forever, right? And then it's really hard because you're in this, we're in this age now where you're a young guy and you're getting told like, you know, you guys have it so, you know, you guys got it so easy and like you haven't

had to go to war. And, you know, you have the David Goggins and the Andy Fursle's and the Jocko Wilkins. and you have all these guys telling you to just shut up and put your nose to the grindstone and embrace the suck and don't be a don't be a pussy right and just kick ass and take names and like I can get behind that and like a lot of time I live that but at the same time do you want to have a family do you want to have a personal life do you want to enjoy life because you know something that I've seen and heard and watched is a lot of billionaires, a lot of successful, wealthy people. Their biggest regret is they didn't spend more time with the people that they love the most. That's their biggest regret. Number one regret. You know, if they could take,

if they could take some of it back, they would spend more time with their family. And so that's, that's all you got to hear right there. So I'm not perfect in this category at all. We do a good job, do a pretty good job getting the work done, but for me personally, I do a terrible job at doing anything else, be honest. I mean, that's being the reality. And I'm trying to work on that best I can,

but I am flawed through and through on that deal. Yeah, well, I think that's the single biggest, we've talked about this many times, but time management is that is the difference between success and failure. I think for anything that you're doing, if you are working for yourself, if you are, if you own your own business or you're building your own business, building your own brand, time management is, that's the hardest thing because you're

only accountable to yourself and it is so easy, it is so easy to lose time. Like when you sit down, you sit down to reply to an email. okay I'm going to reply to this email but then you reply to that email and there's two other emails there and then that reminds you of something that you saw or you're curious whether how this post is doing or whatever the next thing you know

reply to that email has cost you 40 minutes and it's and it's just oh man it's tough it's tough and like we we have run the gauntlet of having our calendars having our having everybody in the family you know on a calendar and having our priorities and oh every sunday night we're going to have a we're going to have a plan for the following week and we're going to do this this day this day this day this day

and yep usually by Tuesday it's shot well it's really hard when because the thing that throws the biggest wrench in it all is the pigs because if pigs got to be loaded or pigs got to get unloaded or pigs get out of their pen or pigs get sick I mean throws you off so you can't

you can't do anything about that I think the single biggest tool that I use every single day that's helped me tremendously the most and I was one of these kids you know they always gave you a planner in school I said fuck that planner I never used that thing ever ever ever ever which I probably should have

because I could have you I could have probably used it, but I plan pretty much everything I got to do all the time, anytime somebody calls me of something or any time I want to remind myself of something or anytime I'm thinking about what I need to get done. I use the app called things, things to. I think it's called things too. It's the things app. Dude, you can schedule out days. You can schedule out stuff you got to do in each day. You can have your do-do list for the whole day. You can have projects where you can write out, okay, this is what I want to do for farmer launch, whatever, and this is the checklist I want to get done.

I mean, you can write notes. You can do so much stuff inside that app, and it keeps me so organized, way more organized than what I was before, and it keeps me on track. For sure, for sure. So I would recommend that to anybody when it comes to time management. But, yeah, man, it is a struggle. And I also think at the end of the day, you got to do some reflecting on what life do you want because I can get for me personally I get caught up in wanting to you know just wanting to

wanting to do it all wanting to have it all wanting to have an amazing operation wanting to maybe make the farm look awesome and have all the nice stuff and I want to have a successful business and I want to do all these amazing things but then are you going to have the people that you love spending time with the most around to see it all because all you did was work. I mean, you got to, you got to think about those, that stuff because it's just people make life, I think people make life worth living. And so if you, all you do is work, you're, you're going to, you're going to be unfulfilled at the end of the day. Um, so I don't know. And this is, it's something that I've struggle with every day. So I, I'm no expert by any means. Yeah. And another part of that, not to beat the

horse but eliminate people so people make life work people make life worth living then there's another group of people that make life miserable so people that aren't helping you people that aren't lifting you up people that don't share your vision or at least understand your vision and support it you got to get rid of those people oh yeah you got to get rid of those people oh yeah you got to get of those people. 1,000% agree with that. Because life's too short, your time's too valuable. You do not have time to spend

either defending yourself or trying to sell what you're trying to do to somebody for their approval. You gotta get... Single best decision I ever made was stop valuing people's opinions about me. You know, you want a good reputation of being an honorable man and being a respectable man,

but there are just toxic cast people out there that just want you to fail. And so those people get them out of your life and don't give a shit about it. And the people that talk shit about you for about doing what you want to do, let them talk shit because that's, they're going to do that regardless. They're going to talk shit if you win or they're going to talk shit if you don't win. So just let them talk shit and let go of people's opinions. And I'll also say last thing on this, we're beating the shit out of this dead horse right now.

But I will just say this. the other thing that I think about is family's important, people are important, but also having a mission and having a purpose in this life is important and creating value in the world is important. And so that's why I'm so passionate about doing what we're doing because I feel like we're creating value and we have a purpose. And it's really easy to get caught up and passionate about that.

And I think that's good. But I just think I'm out of bow. I'm out of whack with it too much, where I feel like I'm all in on that all the time. and I'm lacking in this area. And I think also there's something that's be said about seasons in life. I'm 24.

You're 50, you're in your inner 50s. So it's a little bit different dynamic. And so I'm hoping as things progress that I can kind of balance those two things out more. Still have a purpose, still have something I'm going for, still provide value to the world. Hopefully build a team of like-minded thinking people that are passionate about going after something

and then also have a life behind. just that too. So anyway. That's good. That horse is dead as shit now. Yep. Yep. Starting to stink.

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We have 60, I think we got a 60KW system at a 2Barn site and we have 90KW down here at home. And so we do overproduce. And every, I think every large utility today does this the same way. And it's a shitty deal. And utility companies don't care about their customers very much. I'll argue that with whoever wants to argue it. Because when I put it. put my first solar system in the extra power that I produced during daylight hours got sent up the line

and I got credited. So the meter, if you've ever seen a meter that is solar, you can tell because there's at the bottom, when you're using power, there's a little arrow and that arrow, it's a little dotted line and the arrow moves across and if you have a solar meter or a meter set up for it, it goes both ways. So if you're producing, the arrow goes one way. I'm really oversimplifying it. There's all kinds of things on that meter that'll tell you different things. But at the end of the day, if you're sending power up the line, you're overproducing, you're making more power than what you're using at your site. You're sending it up the line. And they credited me on my bill at the rate that they paid for power. So they credited me the same rate that they bought power

from some other utility. So that was a really good deal. And the way it worked was I accumulated credits throughout the year. And then in the fall, when we would start drying corn, my dry and bin is at the site where we have this one of the solar systems so then i would burn those credits up and unless we had a really wet year or really cold year i could just about dry all my corn as far as the electricity part of it is um off of that credit that i had and then uh i would have a little bit of a bill a little bit of a bill going into spring because i'd used up all my credits and you're not producing near as much solar during the winter so i would have a little bit of a bill going into spring because i'd used up all my credits and you're not producing near as much solar during the winter. So I would have a bill, but still pretty decent.

It was a really great deal. And then we did the same thing down here. But today, when you put on solar, they credit you at the interstate transmission rate, which that is the price that they get for the power that they sell. That's not, you don't get credited for the rate that they pay for power. You get credited for the rate that they sell power to other utilities, which you can make the argument, you know, you're a utility and you're selling it. And that's neither here and or there. But it's not near as good of a, it's not near as good of a deal and your credits don't add up as quickly. And so for us, the next step in what we want to do is basically power walls. Maybe it's not Tesla. I think it probably will be Tesla power walls. I want to put enough battery storage at both of my

sites that the extra that I produced during the day, I bank them here. I don't bake them with the utility. And then at night, I draw that power out. And if I do need any power, then I pull it out of the grid from the utility company. But I'm basically using the utility company as my backup. That's my goal. The cost of batteries, the quality. of batteries has gotten a lot better, especially when it comes to the energy storage. And that's the direction that we want to go. It's not cheap, but in the long run, I think it's worth it because in the time that I've had solar, the rate I'm paying has gone up. Oh, I'm sure it's gone up over, I bet you it's gone up 50%. I should look and see what it is.

and it's going to continue to go up. It just is. And so basically for us, solar's been a hedge because we spent that money and there's a cost involved, but what my electricity is actually costing me from solar versus what I'm buying on the grid, off the grid, the solar is way more economical. So I hope that answers your question. I feel the power. Yeah, feel the power. I'd love to have, yeah, like I want... I like independence and sticking it to people. Yeah, and that's the other thing. That's what I like about it is...

Why not produce your own power and only need the utility company when you need them? Yeah, I like it. Let's get on that. Let's get on that. Keep that power for the upcoming. When you say expensive, how expensive is that? Batteries. Oh, gosh, dang it.

Well, if you don't know, don't say out something that you don't know. Yeah, I'm not going to throw it out there because I've looked at it umpteem times, and I can't tell you. So, like, in Tesla's case, they're on Powerwall 3, I think, and the cost has come down a little bit. But so if you would have needed, like, three units before, you can get, the amount of storage per unit is grown a lot. So you're getting a lot more storage for the dollar you spend. So it's getting more economical all the time. I don't know what it is, but yeah. It'd be nice to have that stored up for the upcoming struggle.

Yep, the EMP. Are we adding any new equipment or building projects in 2024? Well, we are going to be hopefully building a manure separating facility here in 2024. That's our goal. I think I'd love to have a, what do you call it? What do you call it? Oh, warehouse, uh, forklift. Oh, yeah.

I'd like to get a forklift. Yep. I know that's not far from equipment, but it's warehouse equipment. I'd like to get a forklift, make our life a little bit easier so we don't have to haul the skiddy into, into the warehouse every time we need to get something off a truck. Yep. That'd be really nice to get. Yeah. Uh, those are definitely the, that's the biggest project is.

Freezer truck would happen to help to. I'd take a freezer truck. If I could find one that was decent price. decent price, but those do not go for cheap. Oh, they don't. No farm equipment, though, I don't think. Nope, we're just trying to hold our money together. If any of you out there that are grain farming have done your cash flows for the year

based on, I think I ran my last one at $4.50 cent corn and corn closed at 406 today. It didn't work all that great at $450. And so I doubt it works any better at $406, probably a lot worse, actually. so I don't think there's a whole lot of money in there for any new equipment. And we still got to fix all the old stuff. This coming week, the Amish that put the quality roof on this barn. There's a great video showing the Amish putting the roof on our barn here for Barn Talk. And the video is good, but the comments are even better because I don't know.

The fucking Amish are running power tools. How the fucking ain't running power tools? That ain't real Amish. learn Amish. Those are not real Amish. Not real Amish. Amish stealing jobs from America. Don't fucking pay taxes.

Don't pay taxes. Don't have workmen's comp. I mean, the hatred for the Amish is, I did not understand how vast wide the hatreds of the Amish. You either really love them or you really hate them, I guess, because there's people that love their work. Yep. I like their work.

Did I tell the potato joke on the podcast, have ever told that? I don't know. I'm the wrong person to ask. I've heard it so many times. If I've told this, just disregard. But I have to tell it every time we talk about the Amish. So these two Amish ladies are out digging potatoes. And the one Amish lady says the other one, she's like,

these potatoes remind me of my husband's testicles. And the other one stops and looks, she goes, oh my, they're that big. And she goes, no, they're that damn dirty. Okay, so sorry, I had to say that. But anyway, they're coming next week. The Amish crew is coming because. my oldest hog building, the fan end walls are rotten out. So when we built those, the product that we used, and I feel kind of guilty about this because I really believed in it, and I sold a shitload

of hog buildings that all had the same design. But the sighting around the fans, as soon as the cocking started to crack at all, it drew moisture. And my fan sand end walls are in real bad shape. So we're going to pull the fans out, tear the walls down, and redo them. And now then they'll be metal-sided. And then, you know, if you've seen the zip system, the way they wrap windows in residential homes, it's the same kind of deal. They use that wrap, that foil wrap, and then steel over it. And we're putting a little bit of a, oh, basically making that you just can't get any water in there. That'll probably be the biggest building deal we do

other than the manure separator. What about these old asshole hog burns? Are we ever going to get them torn down? Gosh, them fucking things are ugly to look at. I'd like to. I'd like to. Are we gonna, like, can we come up with a realistic game plan on that? That's the other thing about time.

You buy lottery tickets lately? Yeah, the worst thing about that is time. So, uh, we've got three old hog buildings here. one was built in 72 and the other ones were built in 75 and 76 and 4 foot pits under them. The oldest barn has a 10 foot pit, but man, you start, you can get rid of a building. That's one thing I will say about hog confinement or if you build a cattle barn or anything like that. Getting rid of the building, pretty easy. Getting rid of all that concrete, that's a problem.

because I mean it is it is a pile I busted out all the concrete divider walls and you should see the pile of concrete that I've got just from that and when we start busting the floors out and the pit walls and all that uh I think we need a pretty good size track ho for that and a lot of time yep a lot of time or the budget to just go do do do do do oh yeah hey make it go away Yeah. 1-800. Get rid of my fucking problem. Yeah. Yeah. How many fow hogs can you put on a semi and how many loads are one of your finishers? How many loads of feed does it take? Yes. So we get questions like this a lot on the farm sale. This should be rapid for you. Yep. So on average, we put 162 pigs on a semi. Depends. If they're really big, we'll put 155. If you're selling them and they're 250, 260, they'll put 1.6. They'll put 1.5. 165, but it also depends if it's summertime. So 162 is a good round number. I think most truckers can, I think most truckers can get around that 162, good number. We sell our pigs anywhere between, really we try to start 280, 290 somewhere in there. It depends on what packer they're going to. as far as feed goes, easy figuring. A fat hog will eat about 700 pounds of feed to go from wean to finish. So on a 2,400 head finisher, 24 ton to a load, that's like 35 loads of feed that you got to haul in there.

Oh yeah, and so then when you haul all the pigs out, I think it's 16 loads. So each 2400 head finisher, I think there's 16 loads of pigs in there to come out, and it takes 35 loads of feed to make that. So thank God for truckers, and that is, if you drive around the countryside in southeast Iowa, and you see all these trucks, you think about all the corn that has to be hauled from the field to the bin, from the bin either to the river or to a feed mill, and then all that corn gets ground with bean meal that got hauled from Cedar Rapids or the Quincy, Illinois, or wherever,

and hauled back out, and then all those pigs get hauled. Takes a lot. Should have bought stock in a tire company, I think. Yeah, we're just starting making them. Somebody should be making a lot of money off truck tires because agriculture only works, of transportation. Yeah, there's a lot of moving pieces and people just, people don't realize it. They think it's just grown at the grocery store. Yep. It shows up somehow. And not to,

not to rain on everybody's parade today and this is not a hot topics, but if you're worried about all the people flooding our borders that could do us harm, it does not take any people like, oh, there's going to be, you know, somebody's going to blow up the Super Bowl or somebody's, is going to do this. You don't have to blow up very many bridges or train tracks or anything in this country and you would bring this country to its knees in a hurry because if transportation can't happen, people don't eat, power doesn't stay on, all kinds of bad things happen. So it does not have to be anything fancy. We are so reliant on transportation that that to me is the weakest link. And a way to go. Give them ideas.

Just gave them all our secrets. I'm sure. I'm sure that. I'm sure that. But the deviant bastards in the world don't need me. I will just bet that there's not one deviant son of a bitch out there that goes, huh, that's a really good idea. I think I'll do that. I think some of them, though, they probably think, well, we don't want to take out America's food supply because we need some of that too. I don't know.

I can't get on a barge. True. Can't get on a barge. They take out the semi. I know. That's true. I hope that we're, I hope that the people that are on top of it are really on top of it because it's a mess. Yep.

Okay. I think that's all, I think that's all she wrote. Got any other thoughts? I do have another thought. Tell me, have any of you, any of you out there that have Apple TV been watching Masters of the Air, which is about the bombing of Germany in World War II? It is the story of a squadron of B-T-T-T-R-W-E. 26es, I think, out flying out of England. And it is done so well. The attention to detail is

fantastic. And my dad was a fighter pilot in World War II. He flew a P-51. He was in the 325th Air Force, 318th Fighter Squadron. They flew out of Lascena, Italy, and they would fly up out of Italy and meet the bombers coming over from England. So, like, that whole series is pretty near and dear to me because, you know, we used to talk about that a lot. But just from, you know, his stories and, like, I had his flight jacket, his captain's hat and all that stuff. And just the attention to detail is amazing.

And I would say, you know, we're in hard times. A lot of people, it is not getting any easy. easier but when you when you see i think that that i think that the the way they portray it and the number of people that get that die throughout the series that are main characters uh you get a real feel for how the sacrifice that uh that those guys made and yeah great series yeah i haven't finished yet. We were watching it as a family and then, you know, life happens. Time and life happens. And so Kat and I are going to probably finish it. But I watched the first two episodes. And I got Band of Brothers vibes just, oh yeah. More updated and Air Force. Yeah. So it's, but yeah,

it's definitely badass for sure. I, what did I say? The opening, like the opening intro to that show, I just was like, after, it was like a long intro and it's just like pure blood to a mere, a American. It's just fucking screams American. Nothing could have made it better. And after it like showed, I think the first episode I watched the air show, I was like, fucking love America. I was like, I just love fucking America. And everybody just started laughing because it's a really good, it's just, you know, and there's something about that, you know, fighting for your country and just a cool ass cut scene and an intro of just the montage of American kickassness is just awesome. Yeah. Something that was interesting, I forgot about this, but when the United States started the daytime, when the United States started the daytime bombing campaign, so England, they were bombing at nighttime, and they did not have the, they did not have the bomb site. They talk a little bit about it in there, but one of the most closely guarded secrets of the American War machine, I guess you'd say, was the optic that they used, the bomb site that the bombardier used to know when they were over the target

that they could precisely drop the bombs. And when I say precisely, there was a hell of a lot of munitions that were dropped that didn't hit anywhere near what they were supposed to hit. However, they were much more accurate than what had been before. And the English, they were bombing at night, and they were just indiscriminately bombing. And there's a scene in there where the British pilots are basically just telling these guys that they're crazy, that they're just absolutely crazy because you had to deal with the fighters, you had to deal with the flack. I mean, it was, you know, they basically told it was suicide. And when they started the average, you had to fly, you had to fly 20, 20,000. 25 missions, I think, before you could come home.

And like, it was quite a while before there was a group that made 25 missions. And side note, my dad, being a fighter pilot, you had to fly 50 missions if you were a fighter pilot. So that tells you the reason is because your life expectancy was a lot greater as a fighter pilot than you were as the crew in a B26 or B24. Anyway, just, it's enough to drive you to drink it. Yeah. Oh, nice tie-in. So today, we're going to have a whiskey minute.

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Yeah. And you're not singing it. It's not going to be you. No, thanks. We have 1792 small batch. And this is kind of like, it's kind of entry level. It's got a fancy bottle. And they make small batch, they make full proof, and they make,

uh, there's one more. I can't remember what the other one is. But this is. this is like it's a Barton's product, which is Sazirac, and it's like the illegitimate brother of Buffalo Trace. It's all kind of the same. And I think these guys got to get a bad rap because they're not, they're not on the right side of the family tree, Bartons. They're the red-headed stepchild. Yeah, kind of. But they do make a fancy bottle. and small batch is only like 93 proofs so it doesn't have much burn to it. The full proof's like

125. It's got a little more zip to it. I would say there's no age statement on it. There used to be an age statement on it and then they sold enough of it that it, I think now it's like six and a half years old. But I've had it before. This is actually the second bottle that excuse me that I had. I've never had it. You already had a little, didn't you? No, I just peered myself, self-warm. Oh, do you got it? I wanted to make it smooth for everybody at home.

Yeah, right. I wanted you to be able to highlight the bottle and not have to worry about giving me nothing. It smells really good. It's, you know, it's kind of fruity, kind of caramel-y. But it's not, I guess you'd say it's not finished like... That is quite the poor, dude. You're not going to down that whole thing, are you? Well, I don't know.

I didn't pay much attention. Now you made me self-conscious. You're going to go ride a bowl after this. Hopefully won't drink it all. But it actually, like I said, I've had it before. It's, I'd say it's good enough. Like, I wouldn't use it for a mixer. It's good enough that you can sip it neat,

but it's not the best whiskey in the world. But it's also not that expensive. and you can find it. And yeah, it's different. I kind of like the front end of it. But the back really drops off fast. Look at me talking like, I'm talking like I'm a whiskey guy. You're a connoisseur here.

Anyway. I ain't shit. I don't know nothing. I just know. You just know this either burns. Burns me slow or burns me fast. Right. There you go.

It's burning me either way. Cheers to enjoying life. Should we make that? Yeah. Cheers to enjoy in life and figuring shit out. Stop killing horses and beating them. Yep. We got that one.

We stopped at one. So what do you think? Well, it didn't burn right away. No, that's that low proof. It's burning now, though. 93 proof, not 93.5 proof. But it doesn't have, like it smells. I wouldn't say that's bad at all.

It smells better than it takes. Because it doesn't have, like, you can't taste all the fruit and caramel. There's not a lot of, there's not a lot of, there's not. there's not a lot of flavor, I would say. It's not like a four roses or anything like that or like a. But the burn's not too bad. No. And that's, I could drink that on ice.

There you go. But you're not going to have a lot of flavor. No. If you're looking for a flavorful whiskey, that ain't it. But if you got somebody that doesn't have much whiskey and doesn't know anything about it, you want to get them a cool bottle, it is a pretty bottle and it's not going to set you back a whole lot of money. So, hey. I'd rate it a six, a six, seven.

there you go 6 4 6 7 actually I think that's pretty good I the only reason it's above average I saw somebody that did a review on it and I think they gave them I think they gave it a 6 out of 10

what would you say that's what I would say yeah it's good enough yeah and let's face it you only got to have really one good glass of whiskey

to start tonight yeah and then after that you can pour whatever you want it doesn't matter it what ain't the peeky blinders prohibition We're saving that.

We've got that back on the barrel back here. We're going to use that as a freaking Molotov. Yeah, that would be a good... If shit hits the fan and you're trying to decide what to throw, Bushnell's Prohibition style by the Beaky Blinders, that's going to be the first bottle to get a towel

shoved in and chucked into a crowd of thieves or hooligans or whatever, because that, it's not that great. Yeah. All right. Well, I think that's going to to wrap it up guys so if you got any value from the show if we made you laugh if uh you know you're related to us on something please share it out or support us at farmer grade or leave a review we appreciate every single one of you guys and we love you and we'll see you back here next week

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