Barn Talk - Barn Talk Q&A: Lab Grown Meat, Precision Agriculture & Working As A Team

Episode Date: July 4, 2023

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I know. I mean. This year barely got to use it because it didn't rain. The grass all died. But it's going to start rain. And we'll get into that. Yeah. And once again, no swivel coozy.

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Yeah, we do. It's just another thing. It's one more thing. Yep, just another thing. So you got a fresh hot off the press market update for the folks here today? Yes, I do. And the simple answer is, It has rained some in eastern Iowa over into Illinois and I think beyond,

and the forecast is for it to keep raining. And I don't think that I can, I don't think I have ever seen a time that the crops have looked as tough as they have around here as early as they have. But anyway, we got rain, and as a result, you should have taken a picture of the markets on Friday of last week, because you wouldn't recognize them today, because they've dropped every day since that rain started. So today, corn close at 581. Locally, the high is 591. Beans 1455 at the river.

That's the Iowa side. I think they're a little higher in Quincy, but I didn't. and get that quote 1451 on the board and it's a huge drop i mean uh beans were down i think they were down 40 cents at one point corn corn was down i want to say corn was down 20 cents maybe on monday um it's been down every day since since the weekend wheat 654 hogs 94 255 the hogs real interesting because um they've had a couple of days where they've had a couple of days when They've been up big, but then they take it right back off. And they're still gained over, you know, they were, they were $89, $90.

And so they've put on $4, but that's kind of the resistance point. And I don't know. I don't know what the top side is, but I don't feel like we're, I don't feel like we're gaining very fast there. Cattle 180, feeder cattle, $240. August crude oil, 6936, and Bitcoin's $30,000. It was, it got to 31,000, I want to say 31,800, all over the Black Rock doing an ETF. But over the weekend, to dig into politics, because why shouldn't we, Robert Kennedy Jr. gave a speech, and I would tell you all should, probably, check that out because I thought it was really interesting. And he talked a lot about Bitcoin, and the

politics have been pretty gruesome towards Bitcoin of late. I mean, they've been bagging on it. And the FCC, sorry, there's too many acronyms. You know, they went after Coinbase and just a lot of uncertainty in the crypto world, but Kennedy said that Bitcoin is basically patriotic, and it's right in line with what the founders of the writers of the Constitution would have thought Bitcoin was awesome, because it's a check against government overreach and control of your finances and control of basically knowing what every transaction that you do is. It was a damn good speech. I sure hope that I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell that he's going to get to debate Joe Biden because Biden has nothing to gain and everything to lose,

and he can't put together a complete sentence on the fly. So I don't think it'll happen. But man, that guy... I wouldn't mind him getting the nomination on the Democratic side. He ain't bad. No. If you listen to him, I encourage anybody to go out there and listen to him because he is a Democrat,

but he's kind of old-school Democrat, which is nice. He's not all the way woke, left craziness. He's like, you know, he's a libertarian almost in the fact that, you know, doesn't care, but he's, he's, don't care who you are, what you want to do, who you want to sleep with, but, you know, he's just kind of smart about, like, let's get this. Financially. Yeah, financially, like, fiscally, he's there.

He makes sense in his point, so. Yeah, and he's very much a, of the division that's being thrown trying to the divisions that are stoked being stoked in this country on social issues while you know basically the money's on fire and i he's he's he's pretty far left environmentally um and that would that's to be expected i mean his claim to fame was he's environmental lawyer and he did a lot of big cases against large chemical companies and I mean that's kind of his that's kind of his wheelhouse is environmental law and he's he's pretty liberal on that but everything else and and he's smart he's smart you compare him listen to him articulate his points and

then go listen to our current president. And every other candidate that's probably going to run against him. I mean, you don't want California, what's him? Newsome, you don't want Newsom, you don't want Newsom, you don't want Biden. I feel like he'd be a great, I would be totally fine with Kennedy v. DeSantis, Kennedy v. Trump. I think that would be, that would be a decent, decent run. Yeah, have an honest debate.

Yeah. And did you know that Gavin Newsom is Nancy Pelosi's, like, nephew? Are you 1,000% sure on that? Oh, no, I'm not even... You just saw it? Yeah, I, he's related to her somehow. I know that. I don't know how.

It was one of those things I saw it. I was like, what? Seriously. Anyway. Could be, I don't know. I haven't seen that. Might have to do your own digging on that one. Yeah.

Don't take my word for it. There's a connection there for some kind. And not that it matters. I mean, I don't care. She's not worth a shit as a politician, and he's not worth a shit either. So I guess they should be related. And that's just my own...

They're probably getting greased from the same corporations, you know, lobby money. They're just using... That's how they're related. That's how they're related. Because he's the best stock picker in history. I know. Amazing. Random guy is so good at picking stocks.

Anyway, Bitcoin 30K. Ethereum 1830. Tesla is $256. dollars and Vovo came out and announced that they're going on the Tesla charging standard also and they spun off their electric car division which was called Polestar and so pretty likely that pole star will go on that so at the end of the day they're all just falling in line test the Tesla charging system and their network is going to be the dominant charging system in North America and every other car manufacturer is going to adopt their standard.

And it's just the first shoe to drop. You're going to see Tesla license their technology as far as the in-car entertainment system, the whole nine yards. They're going to find out that they can't even come close to plan with them. And so they're just going to license it. And Tesla's going to make a shitload of money. Go to the moon, maybe. And I am pretty sure about that.

I'm more sure about that that I am Gavin Newsom's relation to Pelosi. Pelosi, but I'm very sure about that. And that's your market. Well, that was damn good. There's little nuggets in there every time we do it. Little nuggets. Yeah. Little rants.

That's what makes them good. Yep, that's right. So I'm going to ask you the first question because I just like listening to you today. Larry asks, how in the hell are our crops looking? Any rain? How are they looking? Are we screwed? Are we going to get some crop insurance?

What's it looking like? Well, I started to let the cat out of the bag when I was giving the market update and I had to stop myself. But I will tell you that on what day did we get that rain? Was that Sunday? I think it was Sunday. We had three days of just kind of on and off rain. Yeah. For a little bit.

So there was a chance of rain Friday night. Didn't get any. there was a chance of rain Saturday, sprinkled a few times, didn't get squat. Sunday we went through almost the whole day, and about 5, 6 o'clock, right in there, we got a pretty good rain. We got about a half an inch, and then we probably got another 10th on top of that, and then Monday we got another rain. And I would say all total, we've had three quarters to eight tenths,

of an inch of rain, and I'll tell you something. I was sitting outside my house on the front porch, I guess you'd call it, and I had resigned myself to the fact that if we went through Sunday night and we did not get any rain, that my corn around here was done. like it was we've been running for um better than a month on three tenths of rain uh we got a tenth of rain like three different times and i've never seen i've never seen it this dry this early um and i i was i was totally convinced that the beans were done and uh the corn was pretty It's one of those things.

When you get to that point, you know, every day you think, well, we can't take any more of this. And then you get up the next day and the corn still hanging in there and you're like, well, I don't know. I don't know. But I'm convinced if we wouldn't have caught that, we would have been in big trouble. Well, you were saying the beans especially would have been fried. Yeah. Just totally fried. So our soybeans are, they're very far behind as far as far as where they should.

should be. I mean, they should be just about filling the row on 30-inch rows, and they're a lot better than they were on Saturday. I mean, they've grown a lot off of this, and they look a whole lot better, but they're still not covering the row. So our crop, I'd say as of today, our crop is saved, and we didn't have any corn around here that had, there were guys in Illinois. Tony Reed showed that field of corn of his that was starting with shooting tassels with no silks, no ears, no nothing, which that's a sign that it's done. And like he said, they could get seven inches of rain and they wouldn't get, they won't even get half a crop.

So why does it, if somebody doesn't know, why is it tass, like, why is it tassling like that? So your corn, basically it knows what's going on. and it's programmed, its genetics are to get an ear of corn because that's how the next generation of that plant. I mean, the goal is to get an ear of corn and that corn is going to grow the, so when it knows that it's dying, basically it knows that there's no water, it's going to just jump five steps. It's going to whatever it should grow as far as how many leaves, how tall, whatever, it's going to skip all those steps and it's going to shoot a tassel if it can

and try to pop an ear and it won't, you know, obviously couldn't do it. It was so dry and it didn't have any water to do it. But that's why it's basically trying to skip three steps because it knows the end is near. And we weren't at that point here. I don't think you have to go very far south, and they were, and there's parts of Illinois. Chad Bell on TikTok, he's got a field. He was showing that looks pretty tough. So I'd say our crop, right now I'd say our crop is saved if we keep getting rain.

And the long-term forecast is for it to be wetter, more rain. potentially, you know, good-sized rains. And it's also been cooler. Thanks to the fucking Canadians. All you Canadians listens. Are you guys going to put out these fires or what are you doing? Because, uh, it's awful hazy. Air quality here was just a little bit shitty the last couple days.

Yeah. It's kind of hazy. It's clearing up a little bit today, but yesterday it was terrible. If that would, it now. I woke up and I was like, is somebody burn it? Like literally, I thought somebody was burning something. But then I drove into town and I was like, it's foggy as shit.

Yeah, I mean, if you guys would have passed medicinal marijuana, and this would have been like just a huge cannabis fire, we'd be happy as larks down here. We'd all be just driving around, running into each other, eating M&Ms, and not be able to figure out why we're so fucking hungry. But it wasn't that kind of smoke. No, it was not. Nope, it wasn't.

I saw somebody put this on their story on Instagram today, and it said, U.S. corn and soybean conditions, are now the worst since 1988, even with weekend rains. So 50%, they think crops in good to excellent condition throughout the corn belt and just throughout the whole entire United States, 50% is in good or excellent condition. And then on the soybeans, 51% are in good or excellent condition. And so it's been the worst since 1988.

So that just tells you where we stand as far as nationwide, what a lot of people's crops kind of looking like. It isn't, it ain't good. And the price is probably going to reflect that because we're not going to meet demand. We're not going to probably meet demand this year. But that's the million dollar question. And so it's pretty much dry from Interstate 35,

all the way out, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio. I mean, it's dry out through there. But South America raised a pretty high. good crop and so the board of trade we were corn you know i can't remember what what did i say it closed at corn was 581 okay corn was corn was well into the six dollar range upper six dollars just a few days ago because we were we were running on we weren't going to have a crop the crop's terrible whatever not that much has really changed like for us some of the pressure is relieved but we still need rain our corn it's it's not mean we just bought some time if we don't keep getting rain we're

going to be in trouble and there's guys further east that just like tony reed was saying they're not going to have a crop well so now the game will be who gets the rain was it in time was it not in time and so the markets are just going to speculate on what that final number is going to be as far as what is yield going to be they're going to speculate on is it going to be an average of 163 is it going to be an average of 150 i mean if you move the if you move the average yield in the united states just a few bushels it makes a big difference and then the other thing they're going to watch is the export news um they're going to watch um our usage what they think our ending stocks are i mean it's it's the Chicago Board and Casino.

I mean, they're just running on, they're going to run it one way, and then they're going to run it another. So I don't know. We'll just have to see. But I think that by the time we get to fall, we're not going to have as bigger crop as what people think, because that's just usually how it goes,

is the speculation, they're pretty cautious on dropping that yield. And I don't know. We'll just have to see. That's what I say every year, though. Yep. That's what you got to do. You don't know what you don't know.

Yeah. Mother Nature can be a biotch. Yeah. And I don't know what it's like out west as far as wheat, as far as the wheat crop goes. And I'm real curious about how the wheat market's going to hold up because I'm surprised it's not higher than what it is because Ukraine is Ukraine and Russia are two of the biggest wheat exporters. in the world and neither one of them are going to be able to export sick um so you would think that that really is going to pull the price on wheat and then if it does that there are people in the fringe areas of the united states that typically grow wheat that will look or that typically grow corn that

will say wheat looks pretty appealing yeah and so i don't know how it all plays out and i think it's going to take it'll take another year it may take two years to figure out where the world's going to be as far as grain production goes with what's going on over in europe but anyway to larry's answer we've bought ourselves a little time our crop looks way better than it did a week ago yep okay our next question is justin asked oh this this is this is perfect uh do we think lab grown meat will take off and consumers will consumers buy it now that it's been approved by the FDA and is it a threat to farmers? Oh man. That's a that's a deep question. I mean, I think that, you know, Beyond Meat's already tried bringing this out and you've seen that the backlash has been pretty

significant. The adoption rate of it hasn't been great just because I think people realize the ingredients inside of the inside of that stuff is wonky. And I think, think now more than ever you're just seeing in culture people are not trusting big food companies with all these preservatives red 40 uh you know all the shit like people are very mindful and conscious of what they're putting in their mouth i think more than ever and so them coming out with that and they've seen all these additives to the to the to the burger or to the meat or whatever it's just gonna it doesn't appeal to people and i think we're starting i've said this time and time again excuse me on this show, but I think people are kind of realizing that meat isn't the problem.

A lot of people doing carnivore, a lot of people doing keto, a lot of people do in animal-based diet, and they're limiting their carbs, they're limiting the processed foods, the grain, the really hard, grainy stuff, seed oils, sugar. I mean, there's a lot of things, alcohol, there's a lot of people that are, they're not, they're finding that meat is not the problem. I think overconsumption of meat, like, it's just like everything. I think if you overeat something and like, but at the same time, you got Jordan Peterson and his daughter that all they eat is meat and salt and they got rid of all their autoimmune problems. And so I just think it's a personal choice of what your diet is, but I believe that people are realizing that they're telling us that meat is the problem.

But I think people are waking up to the fact that meat really isn't the problem. It's really foundational to a healthy diet for most people. And I think that consumers are just more aware of what they're putting in their mouth. And until impossible meat or whatever the hell, Beyond Meat can show people, I don't know, until they can really get away from putting all that additive shit in there, I don't think people are going to adopt it. and I also believe, let's say it does, let's play that scenario out. I still, so let's say it gets adopted a little bit.

It's going to be, obviously it's going to be the cheapest form of meat. Like that's going to be easiest thing. Is it? I think it will. I think they'll try to make it appealing to people because it will, I think they'll grow it in a lab and they'll sell it for cheap. It'll be the cheapest. But that's also an advantage for us because what I believe is

there's still going to be a market for a meat eater. This idea that once plant-based or lab-grown meat comes out, that people are just going to adopt it and nobody's going to eat real meat anymore, I think there's going to be a whole market of people that will never eat that shit, and they'll always buy real meat, and they're always going to want to consume real meat. And it's just going to make our product that much more valuable. And I feel like the tagline, the label,

real meat will be a thing if this gets adopted. It's just a matter if it gets adopted. I can't tell you the future. I know that people are working on it. I know that they're trying to mimic the taste, the texture, everything. They're trying to do that in the lab. And if they're successful at it and they can bring the price down

to make it the most cost-effective product out there, I think you'll have some consumers. But I also think it's not going to absolutely destroy all of the meat industry. that the people raise animals and, you know, obviously get meat from animals. I don't think it's going to destroy that market completely. I think there's always going to be a market for it. And that's just my two cents.

And it's kind of the thing that makes it scary, and this is also something that's working against these lab-grown meat companies, the people pushing that shit aren't really trustworthy. You got Bill Gates that's pushing this shit. And Bill Gates, if you go look at him, he is not the epitome of what health looks like. he's a roly-pully fat fuck and he i believe that bill gates anytime he sees a money a money opportunity he is going to go after it and he sees that this is a new way to make a lot of money because it's a new innovating industry um so he's going to go all in on it and try to convince people that

that's better for you when and it's better for the climate when in reality i i don't trust that guy I know most people in the world or most people in America, from my observation, don't trust that guy very much. And so having those kind of people, the ones that are pushing it. And if celebrities come out and push it, like, I don't care what you say. When I see Hollywood celebrities pushing shit, it's the same thing with the COVID vaccine, making all the celebrities come out and tell you you got to get the shot. It's like they're all bought. They're all, most of them are bought.

Most of them are getting on the commercials and telling you. what you need to do. And if they want to run that agenda and that play, nobody buys it. I think most people are kind of just over celebrities trying to get into politics and tell us what we need to do or what we should consume. It's just getting, I don't know, I've lost trust in that too. So, and there was one other thing that I was going to say about it. Oh, last thing, I believe that as farmers in the meat industry, I believe, you know, know, the argument that lab-grown meat, we're going to reduce our carbon footprint. I mean, there's so much technology coming into livestock production that it's going to reduce

our carbon footprint. I believe in the future we're going to have a carbon-negative footprint here on our farm. Yep. Eventually, I think that'll happen. I think dairies, they're the same way. They're trying to eliminate their carbon footprint and even try to produce carbon-negative products. And when that all happens, this idea that livestock production is just destroying the environment

when a lot of the products that are raised, a lot of the livestock that is raised here in America will be carbon negative, that argument of us destroying the planet is just going to go away. And then you're down to, well, does somebody want to fake pork chop or do they want a real pork chop? That's the thing. So, and I don't know, I'm optimistic that there's always going to be a meat market. There's always going to be people that want to buy real meat. And I think with new technology coming out, farmers are going to reduce their carbon footprint. And until they can figure out how to get the trust of consumers to buy that product,

I don't think they're going to be very successful. But I can't rule it out. I can never say never. And at the end of the day, yeah, it is a threat. I mean, you can't, we can't not look at it and just say that'll never happen, that'll never happen. That's how disruption happens and you get thrown on your ass and get disrupted. So we got to definitely keep our eye on it as farmers and as an industry, but it's got, it's got to do, it's got some work to do, I think. The ride that steals the spotlight every time it hits the road, that's the Volkswagen TIG-1.

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livestock. Yeah, I think that's going to be coming down the pipeline sometime here, sometime here in the future. Yeah. Secondly, I think we give them too much credit calling it lab-grown meat because the first generation was lab grown, and if they're going to produce it, it's going to be a vat-grown meat in a factory setting. I mean, if you've got to do it at scale, there's no lab it's a warehouse, it's a production line and I don't know

I don't know about you but the optics of it I don't feel like that looks too good and I think they're going to add it to what Sawyer said to his point I agree I just don't feel like there's that much trust in one drug companies startup

I don't know if you want to call that a technology company a drug company you're dealing with you're dealing with an industry that does not have a very good reputation or is not thought of very highly So I think they'll have an uphill battle, but like Sawyer said, I think, you know, if the price point's right, somebody will buy it. But whether or not it'll ever get to scale that it can pay its way to make a profit, that's, that will remain to be seen. And you know what, at the end of the day, I'd rather just buy meat from people I know.

And, yeah, I'll never eat that shit. I'll tell you that right now. I'll never eat it. I'd have no desire to eat it. I don't trust it. And yeah, I just, I think, I think people won't trust in the products they buy. And so right now, big food isn't doing a good job at that. And that's just another thing that just seems sketchy. It looks sketchy. It tastes sketchy probably. I've never ate it, but people have said it's kind of not, doesn't taste the same. Yeah. And, uh, yeah. I think it's an uphill battle for him.

Not into sketchy. Yep, not into sketchy. And I'm not into Bill Gates. So that's true too. That's that. Grant asks, our thoughts on the future of precision ag. That's a broad. That's a broad one.

So what is precision ag for anybody that's kind of sitting there going, well? Even I was like, Dad, what's a precision egg? Like, what does that all entail? To a certain point, we're already in the age of precision act. I mean, just like us. So David, when he comes and plants, you know, we've got ride control. We've got electric row shutoffs, and everything is GPS to the point that, you know, we don't have, our point rows are perfect, you know, because the planner automatically shuts off.

and my maps as far as my yield maps and my soil maps and all that stuff, I send that back and forth between me and my chemical rep, my fertilizer company, and if we wanted a variable rate our fertilizer, we could. ours doesn't vary that much to the point that we do it. You're seeing precision ag as far as the day is going to come that you're going to have planners that, you know, to start with, you can have two different hybrids. I mean, you can kind of do that today, but you may get to the point where you could have a planar and you got three different hybrids in it.

And your soil maps are loaded in and as you travel along, it's going to pick which hybrid goes to which soil. Your fertilizer is already that way. You know, a lot of people, variable rate. But I think to his point, he's thinking more about autonomous tractors, autonomous equipment, basically getting the human element out of it. And I saw a little bit of a podcast where guys were talking about that. And their, like their viewpoint was that,

you're going to see more farmers exit agriculture in the next 20 years than you did in the 70s and early 80s because their vision was that these big guys are going to have the technology that they can farm so much more ground that the margins are going to get thinner and thinner and thinner and thinner and more and more people are going to get squeezed out. but to your point, we were talking about it before, and I mean, you had a very valid point. Well, yeah, I think it's this, it's this fine line of, it's just like most topics that we talk about on here. You know, chat, G, AI, you know, there's so many great benefits of AI, but there's also some downsides, AI. Same with precision ag. There's, there's a lot of benefits that come with precision ag, and one of them is there's a labor crisis across the United States, but there's a huge labor crisis here

in agriculture. Livestock, there's a huge labor crisis. Getting help to have a farm hand, a quality farm hand, it's a hard task, you know. And so there's just not a lot of people out there that have the know-how or have the drive to want to get into it. And so that's where Precision Act helps us. But if we go so far with it, like you said, you could squeeze a lot of people out. And If we want to keep family farms intact, keep family farms going, have more family farms in America and not have so many corporate farms, it's going to be that fine balance. But I think you've got to move with the times and you can't be the last one on the train. You know, I think that you got to adopt the technology. I mean, you can be one of the middle players in it.

You know, if you don't want to adopt something super fast and you want to kind of wait to see how things go and how they trickle down, just don't be the last one to get on the train is kind of what I'm saying. But we've talked about autonomous tractors on here before, and holy shit, a clip on TikTok just exploded and people just called us, you know, a bunch of dumb asses. You play farm simulator. I mean, we're real farmers. I guess I think farmers just hate the idea of autonomous tractors and it pisses them off and I know there's a lot of stuff that will go into that

like who's going to fill the planter up if it's an autonomous tractor you know obviously you got to fill the planner up but all those little problems I think are going to get solved everybody wants to pick out when you say that term well who's going to do that who's going to fuel the tractor up who's going to do this that shit's going to get figured out. It just is. And

it's still, for most people, you'll still be more efficient having it run by itself. And you go in and having to fill the planner up, getting a notification on your phone. And it needs fuel. Getting a notification on your phone, you're still going to be more efficient than actually being in there. And I know there's guys that just love being in there and love that. And that's fine. But you just don't, you just got to have your head on a swivel. and don't be the last one on the train and get squeezed out. Yeah. So my dad used to say,

you don't want to be the last guy in the township still farming with horses. Yeah. When everybody else has bought a tractor. Because in our little, in our neighborhood, my dad would always tell the story of a guy that lived not very far from us that he was the guy that thought these tractors were just a fad and that they would never work, never last. And he kept on to his horses to the bitter end,

and then he had a farm sale. And yeah, shout out. You know, today is June 28th. So today would have been my dad's 104th birthday. So he was born in 1919, made it to the ripe old age of 99. Yeah, so kudos for that. Yeah, happy birthday, Gramps. Yeah, if he was here, he would have said, well, thank you.

Yeah, he would have said, well, thank you. That would have been pretty awesome to have him on here. Yeah, that's... We're hoping someday, you know, we talk about future plans of Barn Talk, because we're going to ride this baby out until the wheels fall off, but if we make it and we're a decade-long podcast or two-decade-long podcasts, having a third generation on here would be pretty cool. having my kid on here.

Uh-huh. You'd be a pretty old geyser, but... I would be, and I'm going to get older every day that there's not some sort of... Think about all the wisdom that you'd have. You already have so much. Just think about how big your head will be then. You'll just be spitballing, and...

One of us here, and I'm not going to say which one, has got a lot of work to do if that's going to happen. Well, got to sell more pork boxes. Okay. All right. And then we can get you on that, swivel-cozy, but... And while we're talking about precision,

so it goes a lot further than just, you know, we want to talk about autonomous tractors and all that, but the other side of it is, even in the livestock side, which I would say the labor shortage is even a greater problem on the livestock side, we talked to a guy at the World Pork that does audits,

welfare audits, He's an independent, works for a company, and a lot of these, a lot of salth farms, well, even us, we get audited by an independent third-party audit just to make sure that everything we say that we're doing, we really are doing, and they get them so they're not affiliated with the company you work for and blah, blah, blah. Same thing, I'm sure in a lot of people's industries, they do third-party audits. Anyway, he said that how many had he done? over, I want to say it was over 100.

And he said, out of all the ones that he'd done, he had not been to a SIE unit that was not short-staffed, except for the very most recent one he had, was fully staffed. So labor is a huge thing. And, you know, we had, we did a video about having a robotic power washer, which doesn't really fit our operation, but we don't have any trouble getting help,

getting a crew to wash our barns. But there's a big push for automation within the hog business and a lot of, you know, it's like when we had the dairy farmer on, he's got a completely automated feed system. It mixes the feed and it delivers it to the cows. It saves him a pile of time. So Barn Tools You know, Barn Tools Was a sponsor of our podcast, great guys

One of the products that they're working on is a Feed Sensor that has a solar Battery, it's rechargeable from the sun And it gives you your bin levels And we were talking to a field man the other day And they've got a site that they're used them on And their goal is to take that And marry that technology

with good software to where literally we won't even have to order the feed anymore. The bin, when it knows that when the software knows the bin is empty, it will just automatically order the feed for that bin. And then each bin's going to have a barcode on it. So when the feed truck driver shows up, he'll scan the bin. And if it's the wrong bin, it'll say, no, bueno. Well, it won't literally say no, bueno. It just won't red light or whatever.

whatever the hell. And if it's the right bin, green light, go. Well, that's just another example where you may think, okay, that doesn't save you that much labor. Well, it does if you are getting to the situation that you were trying to take all of the upper level management out of a barn to where you can chore that barn with a chore crew. And those guys don't have to worry about order and feed. And if you have your controls automated to where you get a report every day that says, this is how many gallons of water they drank, this is how much feed they drank, this is the temperature, all the fans are okay, the amp draws are perfect, the humidity's right. Those guys, all they have to do is come in and chore. They don't have to come in and troubleshoot.

So then your efficiency on the pigs is better too because the feed outages will be less. I mean, obviously, you know, feed lines plug up and that happens. But biosecure, you know, think about sow units, they don't have to go out and beat on that bin as much probably. They don't have to go out there and check on a bin and see if it's empty. Feed outages are less. So it's just, it's a more efficient way. Just one little thing like that can make things just so much more efficient and feeds one of the most important things when it comes to growing livestock, but growing pigs. And yeah, there's also some other stuff that we've talked about. Like, you one day maybe there'll be a drone that's in the buildings that does just kind of a pen fly around to just

and I don't know it detects if a pig's down or if a pig is dead if it if there's out if they're out of feed is a water line did they break the pipe that and there's a water leak going everywhere like you'll be able to check your drone footage and kind of go through there and just make yourself more efficient so you're you're just going through those barns faster and it just makes it just makes it faster, more efficient. I mean, that's the goal of technology. But I'll just sit on my little hovering, uh, lazy boy like Wally, slipping my, sipping on my 128 ounce slurpee. Just like Wally.

Just like Wally. Just be like Wally. Yep. Be on the spaceship. Yep. Elon spaceship. Mm-hmm. Headed to Mars.

Eating plant-based meat. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Why not think that? Yeah. You don't want to go there. Yeah, I think they're, it's exciting. I mean, I, I feel like agriculture, there's a lot.

of exciting stuff coming, but it's just back to finding that balance, you know. We want to adopt it because we need to become more efficient. But at the same time, we don't want to squeeze a bunch of people out. So just something to keep in mind. There's always something. Always something, man. Copeland asked. So this is kind of a...

I feel like we get one of these. Yeah, I think we do. We get these every once. while and I feel bad for anybody that wants us to give an advice, but we'll try. I'm a 24-year-old, and I'm the seventh generation in the family to farm. I've stepped up this year and grabbed 24 acres of my own that's in soybeans now. My father farms 6 to 700 acres, but he's let me use his equipment to harvest. What kind of advice would you give me for starting my own branch instead of being underneath my dad's wing.

He's 22, not 24. Are you, is that drink running through you like water? I was in the head. Yeah. No, you're good. 22. I didn't know I said 24. Nope, you're good.

It's all right. Sometimes my tongue gets too big from my mouth. It's that, it's that, makers running through you. It'd be. Yep. It's late. It's late enough. Yeah.

It's another evening podcast. We like doing these. I would say to that, that's a hard one. how do you get under, how do you get under, get out from underneath your dad's wing? Well, you're pissed poor to ask that. Yeah, I would just say, I would just say, and I've always, I'm lucky and fortunate enough to have a dad that's very with it as far as technology and as far as innovating the farm and being open to new ideas and not staying in his box. you know, he brings the wisdom of the past, but he's also open, open to working together to grow the farm. Like, that's something that I think,

like everybody always wants to say, well, my dad's got this and I got this. And I've always, we've kind of had the agreement or just kind of the, that it's a, if we're a team, if we can think of this farm like a team, we can accomplish a lot more. Instead of us being two opposites, why don't we come together and try to grow this thing together?

And I mean, that's how some of the greatest, most wealthy, and I know this is an extreme example, but think about the Rockefellers, and I know they're a controversial family, but can't deny, they made a fuckload of money, and they become one of the wealthiest families in American history. But all those kids, from John, is it John D. Rockefeller, they all did their own thing and contributed to the family,

family name and they were all kind of a team doing their thing. And I think that that, I don't know, I think this idea, and I know it's hard because not every dad is going to want to team up and not every family dynamic is great, right? But if you can, if you can make it work where it's not about, I mean, you got to put it in your name and you got to have your own entity. Like dad said, he's probably not going to buy more ground in the future. He's going to, you know, he wants the next generation to own it because it makes sense because if, when he passes away, it's just another loop that we got to jump through

to transfer it all over to the next generation anyway. But it's not like I'm like, I'm going to make all the money off that farm. I want dad, if dad's going to contribute and be a part of that process, I want dad to benefit from it too. And it's the same with anything we do, you know, the better that the more that we're a team working together trying to do this thing, I think the better it's going to serve our family and the better it's going to serve our farm for the future. And that can't be done everywhere.

But I would just say don't look at it necessarily as a bad thing to working with your dad. I think if you guys can team up, combine the new generation and the old generation and come together and work together, you can do a lot of great things. and, you know, I think getting some makers under your own name is great, but if you look at it as a team game, you're going to accomplish more and you're going to come up with better ideas. You're going to have people to run ideas through. It's just better.

And I know that's easier said than done because there's a lot of families that can't come to a decision very easily, and they bicker and they can't make things work, and that's hard. But it's just to answer, don't know. This is a hard question for me because I've never looked at what I'm doing trying to get out from under dad's wing. I've always looked at it. Let's grow this thing together. Let's team up. I don't care what fucking name we put it under. Let's just do the work and get this shit done in any possible way we can and what's all benefit from it. Even my brother Clay, who doesn't even

contribute labor to the farm. I want my brother Clay to be involved in the farm. I want him to contribute his expertise and his knowledge to help us grow this farming operation. And I want him to benefit from the farming operation as well. Yeah. And so it's just the more you can work as a team, it's just like any business, the more you can work as a team and the better team you have, the better result you're going to get. And so that's just my idea, that's my, that's what I can say on it. I don't really have a lot of advice for you besides bust your, I mean, it's the same thing with any first-generation farmer or anybody trying to do their own thing or buy more acres, got to bust your ass. You've got to farm more acres. But I think if you can combine as a team,

you can get to your goal a lot sooner. Amazon presents Jeff versus Taco Truck Salsa, whether it's Verde, Roja, or the orange one. For Jeff, trying any salsa is like playing Russian roulette with a flamethrower. Luckily, Jeff saved with Amazon and stocked up on antacids, ginger tea, and milk. Haboniero? More like Habinier, yes. Save the everyday with Amazon. So I would say not knowing any more than that little bit of email, you need a side hustle

because 24 acres isn't going to get you a whole lot. but you need to think in ways that you need to think of ways that you can one use the equipment or use something that the farm has to bring another stream of income in or think of something that you can do that you are adding something to the farm that pays its own way, and the farm can use it too. And I feel like the edge on this is kind of run its course because I think a lot of people went down this road. But there were a lot of guys that would buy a...

If a farm had a big skid loader, they would buy a mulching head and a grapple bucket and all that, and they'd do land clearing. So basically, you're bringing in extra money for your time and you're paying for that skid loader for the farm. Or if the farm didn't have that loader or you had a smaller one, you're trading that, get a bigger machine. That machine is available for the farm to use and you're bringing in income for. doing it or a lot of guys a lot of these farms you got a semi and you haul your own grain and you get the young the younger generation they start hauling they run that semi they find extra business they're hauling ingredients they're hauling for the neighbors they're doing whatever and it's a way to bring extra income manure yep a lot of guys around here they buy a tank to haul their own manure

and then they pair up with other people that are doing it and then they haul for a bunch of other people stuff like that but i'll tell you uh the most important thing i think within any family farm in operation is brutal honesty and also perspective and nobody likes to talk about this but if you're if your dad's farming six 700 acres you're 22 years old I don't know how old your dad is but I get the feeling he's probably somewhere around my age time waits for no man and everything that I have is temporary

doesn't really matter because I'll wake up in what feels like not very much time and I'm going to be 62 instead of 50 And that wheel keeps turning. So as a father of a farming family, you always have to be thinking in the back of your mind, how does this benefit the next generation?

Because if you're just in it for you, if I'm just in it for what I want, I've already, my shit's about paid for. So I could just say, piss on it. and not do any of this stuff with either one of my boys and just make my money and have a pretty easy life. I think that'd be pretty boring and I'm not wired that way. But both sides, you got to be thinking. So if you're the, if you're the parent, you got to decide what do you want?

Like, and there isn't anything. It's you, you build it. It's your shit. So if you want to run that and run it until you're done and then have a farm auction, sell it off and let the next generation worry about how they're going to make their money, then do it. But don't keep them around and tell them, don't wrangle the carrot in front of them and say, oh, yeah, boy, someday this is going to be yours, but you're not going to make any decisions. And then, oh, yeah, well, you know, sorry, but we're going to sell this out. Yeah, I was just going to say that. I mean, if you were wired that way, I would have never.

never came back. I would never came back to the farm because if it was going to be, I got my shit, you got your shit, you're going to figure it out, I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have gotten into the operation. There's a hell of a lot easier ways to be Yeah, I mean, there's just, there's a lot of other easier ways to get, make money in today's society. And if we're not going to work together as a team and buy in together, I mean, it's just, it's just hard. It's, it's really, really, really challenging. And so, like I said, very fortunate to have a dad that is like that. And I agree with you there that you got to put your ego aside and you got to think about

what's going to be left. And the younger kid, you know, you got to bring value to the operation. You got to show it's got to be a one-two punch. They got to give, they have to give you buy-in. They got to bring you in to the operation and, you know, say, hey, we're going to do this and you're going to be a part of this for the long haul, and I want you to be a part of this for the long haul, and then the younger generation needs to bring value to the operation and buy in.

Buy in. If you want them to involve you, you need to be bought in. So I don't know, dude. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to be under your dad's wing and, you know, get, like, become a team. Like, really try to become a team and build from there. this idea that oh you know fuck you if you inherited ground or you know you built a thing as a family I mean haters are always going to hate so I don't care I I think it's just better to

better to team up if there's no legacy there you say you're the seventh generation so either either there's legacy and if there's legacy then the older generation needs to risk some of that capital and you need to work your ass off to put the labor in to make that risk worthwhile. But if it isn't legacy, then why are you there? Yeah. Then you need to just go,

you need to go do something else and be done with it. Yeah, that's like, dad and I's goal, if you've listened or watched any of our shit, is we always talk about, we want to sustain this farm for another generation. And legacy, our why of our family farm,

is legacy. Like we really, above all else, legacy is like number one for us. And so that's, that's, I think when you, when you're going after something more than money in any business, that's how you see results.

That's how you see success. That's how you work really great as a team. Because you got a, you got a Y and you're going for it. And it's not just money, you know. I mean, money's great. Don't get me wrong. It helps.

It definitely helps. But it's not all about the money for us. No. And you got to, there's some faith involved in this because there was no guarantee with my kids growing up. There was no guarantee that either one of them were going to want to have anything to do with farming. So the sixth generation, there was no guarantee. I was just lucky in the fact that everything that I did. set it up to where it would be possible if the sixth generation wanted to get in,

they could. But it sure wasn't a sure thing that that was going to happen. And everything we're doing is geared towards making it possible that the seventh generation is going to be able to farm here. But there's no guarantee that they will. But you know what? Here's the thing. We're going to make sure that it's an opportunity that they can't.

and if it all goes to hell in a handbasket by the time that happens i'll be long gone and you ain't going to care there's nothing you can do about it you have to surrender yourself to the fact that you can play in all you want and god will laugh at you because it there's no guarantees but you got to work towards something because if you don't have purpose well you ain't got anything i mean I mean, yeah, you need to have a faith, but if you don't have a faith and you don't have purpose, then you ain't got much. And our purpose is trying to keep this deal going and given in the opportunity for a seventh generation. May not happen, but it sure won't happen if we don't align to do it.

And so, you know, I also say last thing on this question, I have my best, I will look back on these times and I'm making the best memories with my dad. You know what I mean? Like working with your dad, that's a special thing. And so, you know. You can't fight with family. Yeah. Exactly.

You got a, you know, that is going through the thick of it with family if you can make it work is something special. And so keep that in mind too if you're thinking about going completely out on your own. And like, going through the shit with your dad is, it's tough, but it's a bond that you form beyond just like, just father's son. It's like your business partners, your best friends, you know, your father's son, like it's deep. It runs deep. So it's a unique relationship if you can make it work for sure. And if you treated other people the way you treat me, you'd probably be a wrestler. Well, same goes to you.

Same goes right back to you. I'm just paying you paying back for all the times you beat my ass when I was a kid. Oh, oh, there you go. Sorry. Yep. Just turned into an after-school special. I'm just kidding. I didn't get my ass beat only when I...

He only got beat when he was little because he didn't stay small enough for me to beat him very long. It's good. All right. This kind of falls... I think this kind of falls into that younger generation. I'm not even going to try to pronounce this kid's name because, and I didn't miss. Is it Tayley?

Taley. That might be right. Taley, I don't know if we're pronouncing it. We're going to say Taley. What skills would you recommend learning just starting out? Just starting out, like that was it. That was just the question. The not starting out in farming, just like generic basic.

I think just life. Coming out of high school. start there. Because you've talked about this. Yeah. What do you wish that you would have known or done now? And you're, I mean, you're 23. Yeah.

But, yeah, five years ago. I would say the quicker that you can find your purpose, get disciplined on doing daily actions to get you closer to your goal and your purpose, and planning your work. and work in your plan every single day, day in and day out, that will get you very far. If you can get discipline, work really hard, have a vision and somewhere you want to go and believe in yourself that it's possible and listen to people that encourage you that it's possible surrounding yourself with the right people, that's foundational.

and that's really, really important. I think what's really hard, and one of the best things that I ever did was not valuing other people's opinions of me that have no, like their opinion doesn't, shouldn't matter to me. You know, a lot of time, especially when you're a young kid

and you grow up in high school, you care about what people think and how you're perceived. And it just comes with the politics of being in high school. I mean, it's just like, that's what it is. And the sooner you can let that go, the better off you're going to be. Because people are always going to hate, people are always going to judge you, people are always going to have shit to say about you. And you have just got to say, fuck it.

I'm going to just be me. I'm going to do my own thing. This is where I want to go. This is how I want to do it. I'm going to surround myself with positive people that are going to believe in me, that are going to fill my cup up, not take away from me. my cup and I'm going to execute. And if you do that, you're going to be, you're going to be successful. And it's, it's way easier said than done. Trust me. It took me a very long time to get seriously

disciplined in some areas in my life, but also planning my work. Like I just this year, like really have been very consistent at making a plan each day of what I need to get done and doing it and I wish I would have definitely done that earlier on because that really helps you stay organized, stay on task. And it's also just fulfilling or just it just feels good to check shit off your list and feel accomplished each day like you really contributed and you see the steps that you're taking every single day to get to where you want to go. And so that's really nice. So that's that's kind of my two cents on it. I'd say also, just try to become the best version of yourself because what I've found is when I'm consistently

going to the gym, when I'm consistently staying up on what I call my diet, I guess the stuff that I, if I feel like I'm, because I'm trying to, I'm trying to build muscle. So I'm eating in a caloric surplus, right? So I'm trying to eat more food so I can gain weight to grow more muscle. And so when I'm feel like I'm doing really good on my diet, I feel like I'm going to the gym, I'm learning something new every day and I'm working towards my goals and my passion and my dream that's becoming the best version of yourself and you do that consistent enough you've that's a real like that's a really great feeling it's a really great feeling um and if you can somehow get that early on it's kind of like it's addicting to to want to have that feeling um and so and i also say enjoy yourself a little bit

I'm not saying grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind. Enjoy yourself a little bit. Have some friends. Have relax a little bit sometimes. Have some outlets that help you get away from what you're trying to do. But 75 to 85% of the time you need to be going towards what you want. Because that's the hardest transition I think to make is young kid going straight into the adult world. That is something that is slept on and you have to grow up really quick.

And so if you're 75 to 85% of time working, doing all that stuff that I just said and then still having some fun too and enjoying yourself, I think that's a good balance. I think we're going to have to send a dollar to NPKK. MPKK, what is that? The farmers west of town because you just use their plan your work, work your plan. Oh, nice. that's that's that's reed incorporated that's your that's your i said that i stole it from them because when you walked uh these guys that we know that farm west of town uh in their shop in their old shop when you'd walk in there uh it was i wouldn't say it was well organized uh granted there there was

there's all these brothers that farmed together and so you know everybody kind of has their own pile But the one area of the wall that was open, there was a sign there, and it just always said, plan your work, work your plan. And that just always stuck with me. So we'll throw a next time we're driving out old 92, we'll just throw $2 worth of cans in the ditch out there. Pay for that. There you go.

But it's 100% true. Discipline, man, discipline. That's like you can get so much done. foundational. And with that, get up early. So get up early. If you can get up early and what you do when you get up early is up to you. You know, if that's your time that you do your best thinking and that's when you do your planning, that's fine.

If you get up and that's when you want to do your exercise. or, you know, you want to get up and get the most important things off your plate that you want to get done for the day. I've always said, like, if we don't get it done in the morning, it ain't going to get done. And that's not 100% true. Sometimes we get stuff done in the afternoon. But when you start before the rest of the world gets going, man, you can get a lot done. As soon as the texts and the phone and, people, you know, whatever you're into, as soon as the world gets moving, that's when the

distractions all start. So, um, discipline, you know, get a routine, um, stay disciplined and push out the noise. The easiest way to success is don't quit. That's what I was going to say. Uh, you have to be resilient. You have to be resilient. I mean, our last episode, we talked about getting Farmer grade off the ground. You know how many bumps in the road it took to get this thing, that business off the ground, a shitload. And that's just business, but that's life. I mean, you are going to have left and right hooks all the time and you just have to be resilient and you have to get up and get back on the saddle and go because if you just, if you stay, if you get knocked out and you don't get back up,

that's where you start to feel miserable. That's where you start dabbling in and get an addicted to shit. And you just don't, you got to get back up and go for your purpose and keep going. Because you got one life, you got one freaking life, and you got to try to make the most of it if that's what you want to do. And what else did you say there? I was thinking about something else. Schedule, routine, discipline, get up early.

Don't give up. Yeah. There was something I was going to say, but I forgot. Forgot it. Drink some coffee. That's what I would recommend. I wish I would have drank coffee when I was 18. Because damn, that helps for sure.

Drinking some coffee when you need some caffeination. That helps for sure. Yep. Get you through the hard time. Yes. When you need to get some shit done. But I think that pretty much covers it. I mean, that's all shit that it's easier said than done.

It really is. But I think that you feel at your best when you're striving for your best. And if you really truly want success, that's what it requires. It requires those kind of things. And we're not perfect. I still struggle. Like, I've only been to the gym once this week because it's just been a crazy week. because it's just been a crazy week.

And so balance is not something that's great for us. And I'd love to stay disciplined and be at the gym three to five times a week. But sometimes you fall off and you just got to get back on and find your groove again. So that's just part of life. But I think that's going to wrap it up. Yeah, I think that's going to wrap it up. There is all kinds of shit going on in the world that we could do a hot topics about. And we probably need to do a hot topics about the,

the coup in Russia that wasn't a coup and talk a little bit about the politics going on in the United States, but that'll have to wait for another day. I think our next episode probably will be a guest, but if we get any hiccups in that, we'll probably have a hot topics, but otherwise you'll have to wait for hot topics. But anyway, we appreciate every single one of you, and keep your questions coming. If you have a questions, send them to Barn Talk Show at gmail.com. Leave your review on Spotify or Apple.

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