Barn Talk - Farming and AI: Navigating the Future Landscape

Episode Date: May 27, 2024

Welcome to Barn Talk! Today, we're digging into your questions in a lively Q&A session, touching on everything from cover crops to building hog barns and navigating the challenges we face daily on the... farm. Join us as we share our insights, stories, and a few laughs along the way. So grab a seat, strap in, and let's dive into the world of agriculture, business, and everything in between. Use code BARNTALK for 10% OFF your next order https://farmergrade.com SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST ➱ https://bit.ly/3a7r3nR   SUBSCRIBE TO THIS’LL DO FARM ➱ https://bit.ly/2X8g45c  SUBSCRIBE TO BARN TALK CLIPS ➱ https://bit.ly/3BlZnqq   LISTEN ON: SPOTIFY ➱ https://open.spotify.com/show/3icVr4KWq4eUDl7Oy60YMY  ITUNES ➱ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/barn-talk/id1574395049 Follow Behind The Scenes👇🏻 ● This’ll Do Farm Instagram ➱ https://bit.ly/30KPBNk   ● Barn Talk TikTok ➱ https://bit.ly/3qciekS   ● Sawyer’s Instagram  ➱ https://bit.ly/3BtX0n4   ● Tork’s Instagram ➱ https://bit.ly/3LGZJxS    00:00 Podcast platforms need better episode sorting. 06:22 Hue lights are great, but have issues. 11:20 Tornado comes close to family farm. 15:45 Local corn price $4.64, up to $4.70. Beans $12.39, wheat $7. 23:19 Challenges traditional values in our culture. 28:01 Discussion on COVID crops and cover crop usage. 35:23 New version O omnivore personal assistant technology. 38:22 AI wrote persuasive letters with glowing examples. 43:40 AI enhances the sales process by analyzing data. 47:50 AI impact on jobs, adaptability, and concerns. 57:06 Thoughts on hog barn improvements and challenges. 58:57 Improving hog barns for direct consumer sales. 01:06:05 Builders often overlook proper lighting placement and quantity. 01:11:04 Transitioning to farm life is challenging, but necessary. 01:15:05 World Pork Expo in Des Moines, Iowa, barbecue. ------------------------------- ***PLEASE NOTE*** Barn Talk is a significant break from the typical content viewers have come to expect from This’ll Do Farm. Please be advised that we will be exploring a wide variety of topics (some adult-themed) and our younger viewers (and their parents) should be advised that some topics will be for mature audiences only. ⚠NO FINANCIAL ADVICE / DISCLAIMER⚠  The Information discussed and shared on Barn Talk is provided for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes only, without any express or implied warranty of any kind, including warranties of accuracy, completeness, or success for any particular purpose. The Information contained in or provided from or through this podcast is not intended to be and does not constitute financial advice, investment advice, trading advice, or any other advice. The Information on this podcast and provided from or through our content is general in nature and is not specific to you, the user or anyone else. You should not make any decision, financial, investment, trading or otherwise, based on any of the information presented on this podcast without undertaking independent due diligence and consultation with a professional, professional broker or financial advisory. Understand that you are using any and all Information available on or through this website at your own risk. RISK STATEMENT– The trading of Bitcoins, alternative cryptocurrencies, NFTs, individual stocks, etc. has potential rewards, and it also has potential risks involv... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:43 email us at barn talk show at gmail.com that's where we get them and uh the questions have kind of slowed down lately so send us some fucking question guys you know we got to let we got to keep this format rolling so we need more questions whether it's politics whether it's economy economics whether it's farming agriculture business uh what is our favorite barbecue cut it doesn't matter we'll answer it all we'll answer it all is is torque circus midget we'll fucking answer it every single question that you got will we'll we'll answer it. So submit them and email us, please. If you get any value from the show, if you laughed, if you learned something, if you're related to us on something, all that we ask in return is that you
Starting point is 00:02:26 just share the show with people that you know. The more that you guys do that, the more of the show grows, the better guests we can get on, the more episodes we can make. The more that Barn Talks just keeps on keeping on. So that's all that we ask. If you also want to support Barn Talk, you can leave a review on Spotify or Apple. Spotify is kicking the shit out of the Apple guys. I don't know what's going on, but Spotify is up to 2.5,000 five-star reviews. And Apple were, I think, at 1.2,000 five-star reviews.
Starting point is 00:02:58 So, blessed to have over 1,000 on both. But, I mean, Apple guys, what's more reserved? It's a more reserved crowd. But I feel like Spotify might be a bigger platform. They might be. You know what? I think it is. Huh? This is my theory.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Spotify, all you got to do is just hit how many stars you rate the show. They don't ask you to say anything. Apple, they make you write a few words. You got to put some thought into it. Just got to put a little thought into it. But hell, guys, even if a emoji, just a thumbs up would work. Five-star review and just put a thumbs up in that text bar.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Submit it. I'm trying to be thought-provoking. The reason that's important, guys, is it gives our show mad credibility. If you look around the audio platforms for podcasts, there's really not like, you know, they have the charts. But to see how successful a show is, there's not like a subscriber count. It's just how many reviews you got, you know? Why do you think that is? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Now, there's a good question. I should submit that to myself. Yeah, well, you just did. Because I ask that every time we talk about it. I'm like, why isn't there? They're so slow. For some reason, I feel like the audio platforms are so slow. like the world of podcasting has not adapted to like Apple music or Spotify,
Starting point is 00:04:15 where you can see what your friends are listening to. What pisses me off is I want to sort through a podcast and their most popular episodes. Yeah. Why don't they let you go to Spotify or Apple and sort through the most popular episodes on that podcast? It's all just chronic logical order. And it's like, well, shit, I want to know what the best one.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I want to go to Rogan and be like sort most viewed or streamed episode. and go watch that. You just got to go to YouTube. Yeah, I know. And you can go to YouTube and listen and watch Barn Talk there too, so we have that going. But all that being said, guys, value, share the show, leave review on Spotify or Apple. Helps us out in tremendous ways. Last thing you can do to support the show is you could support our directed consumer meat business that we started 11 months ago.
Starting point is 00:05:04 We got Wagyu. We're going to have Black Angus beef on there very, very soon. We got pasture-raised chicken. We got pork that we raised. here on our farm on there as well. You guys can save 10% off on your next order using code Barn Talk and you'll have that for the whole entire time that we do this podcast till the end of time. Until Torque's over, you're going to have a 10% discount code. Then quality really take off because you'll have Sawyer Jr. to step in to take over my spot. Yeah. And I hope he treats you as
Starting point is 00:05:31 poorly as you treat me. Yeah. Yep. He probably will. Probably will. Yeah. So anyway, that's all you can do for us here at Barn Talk to help us out and get the word out and have the show grow. We're trying to get more and more high-level guests on here. But, you know, it can be kind of a challenge sometimes to get people to come to southeast Iowa. But that ain't got to stop us. We're in it for the long run. We're in it for the long game.
Starting point is 00:05:55 So thank you all to the longtime supporters. We're just getting started. We're just getting started. So that's my fucking spiel. I said fuck three times, four times in the first four minutes. Hey, many Christmas, I gave you the speech about this being a family operation. Well, I needed to just, we needed to get fired up. We were a little groggy this morning.
Starting point is 00:06:16 I was a little groggy because we did wake up at six in the morning to an amber alert that the sky's falling. Tornado is on the ground. Tornado's coming. Tornado's coming to just to destroy our whole farm. So I was up and at it and looking at the weather channel, looking outside. It was pitch black out there. It wasn't looking good. um i was had a rough year this year with tornadoes and just i feel like man these tornadoes are just
Starting point is 00:06:42 you remember this there being this many tornadoes you when you grew up uh i don't know it i mean it comes and goes some years are worse than others i feel like though um i feel like the severe weather band uh i guess i don't know if i could say it's moved south or not but uh yeah Yeah, we, not good. We had, the power went off at like 3.30 this morning. And in our house, we have a whole bunch of these smart bulbs, these Phillips hue lights, which I love. They're, they're great. You can, you know, you can set them on timers, come on, you can dim them, you can make them,
Starting point is 00:07:30 you can turn them colors. we don't change the color much, but you can get them different brightness, dimness, whatever, and it's awesome. One problem with them, though, if the power goes out and then comes back on, every one of them lights turns on. And so if you're laying in bed dead asleep
Starting point is 00:07:53 and your lights in your bedroom are all hue lights or smart bulbs, if the power going out doesn't wake you up the power coming on will because all the lights come on and then of course when the power comes back on they're run by Wi-Fi so unless you get out of bed and go flip the switch the router it takes the router a little bit to boot up so you're just laying there with the pillow over your head
Starting point is 00:08:24 waiting for the Wi-Fi to come on so you can turn the lights down. You're a techie son-bitch. I love those bulbs. Some things are awesome. Sono speakers and hue bulbs. Love it. Okay. I should get a sponsorship out of that, but I don't. So anyway, that happened at 3.45, and then the rain started, and then I got up, and I came down, and I was just punching the button for the coffee, and my phone went off with the blaring amber alert, and then my wife came trotting down. She was headed right for the basement. She's a rule follower.
Starting point is 00:09:04 So if there's a tornado warning, she's heading to the basement. Dad's in his boxers with his ball swinging outside with the tornado going on. And mom goes straight to the basement. That's how it goes. Yep. So anyway, yeah, it was a good morning to have breakfast. Yeah, I also want to say prayers to the people of Greenfield, Iowa, because they got smoked last week or was it this week?
Starting point is 00:09:27 It was early this week, wasn't it? I think it was early this week. Yeah, prayers at all those people. And actually one of the farmers that works is in partnership with us at Farmer Grade that provides a great, all the Wagyu that we get, the Queque family farm, Quack family out of Peru, Iowa. They, unfortunately, the youngest song, Paul, his house got absolutely hammered. And they, luckily all of them made it through and they all survived.
Starting point is 00:09:56 But man, tough deal. It's a mess. It's not good over there. Thank God for all the people that are helping out and getting over there and cleaning stuff up. But prayers to all those people, glad every, glad the Kweck family's safe and glad majority of people made it out safe. But there were, I think there were a few casualties.
Starting point is 00:10:15 So prayers with those families. The hospital in Greenfield got leveled. And so they were like doing. and they basically they shut up, set up a makeshift, uh, emergency room at the dollar general. So it,
Starting point is 00:10:30 I mean, it's, yeah, pretty, pretty extensive damage out there. So we don't need any of that. And, uh,
Starting point is 00:10:37 so far today I haven't heard of any. There wasn't, was not nearly as, I mean, they're going on to say that that one was like one of the highest recorded tornado level. I don't know what, F4,
Starting point is 00:10:51 F, The scale, it was an insane scale. Yeah. I mean, the pictures that, if you look at pictures of Greenfield, Iowa, if you haven't checked it out, I'm sure it's everywhere and people have already seen it. But foundations ripped. Yep, up out of the ground. Off, I mean, completely, just bare bones foundations left for a lot of places. And carjacks, freaking taken out of the bolts out of the ground out of the concrete, just completely lifted out of the concrete.
Starting point is 00:11:20 It's insane. Yeah. It's nothing to mess with. No, it's like a luck of a draw too. Like, tornado, you can't do shit about that. Besides just like, well, hunker down. We had that. We had tornadoes come through our little town.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I don't know. Has it been 15 years ago? Right. I was not. Was I alive? Yeah, I think you were. I don't know, a long time ago, but I always thought it was interesting because my,
Starting point is 00:11:57 they went just south of our farm, came through the north edge of our hometown, and kind of came between our town and where our farm is. And my, my mother was in the basement, and she was not very mobile in her older age. She doesn't get around very well. and anyway, she went straight to the basement. There was a car that pulled over on the side of the road,
Starting point is 00:12:27 and the people in it came to our house and wanted to know if they could go to the basement. And then a little bit later, as the storm was moving, some people drove past our house and then saw the tornado coming and got out and crawled into the culvert that went underneath the road south of our house. Meanwhile, while all this was going on, My dad is he's one of those guys. He's standing in the driveway of our house, just looking at it,
Starting point is 00:12:56 yelling back at the house. I think it's going to be fine. I think it's going to go south of us. And he literally just watched the tornado come across the field and cut right south of our family farm. And it did go south and cut back to the north. So yeah, he was one of those people. I just thought that was, I thought that was interesting. The different, storms bring out the different mentality. So you have, you know, the concerned people like, like my wife and like my mother that, you know, they think they have an innate need for safety. So they're going to go right to the, right to the shelter.
Starting point is 00:13:38 And then you have the people that are driving, you know, maybe it's okay, maybe it is. And then the people that are just, they're just like, it's a roll of the dice. So whether I'm in the base or not, don't really matter. I'm going to stand out here and watch it. Just see. That's you. Yeah. So anyway.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Like father, like son. Yeah, last thing I'll say about the Greenfield tornadoes. And if you want to help out in any way, I just wanted to throw this out there. Earl Ham schools in that area has created a Venmo account to help out and support those families and help clean up all the mess that has occurred there. So if you want, you can Venmo at Earl Ham. social committee. I'll say it again, Earl Ham social committee is where you can Venmo, and they're taking all those, all that profit, all those proceeds and donations to help all the families in the town
Starting point is 00:14:30 rebuild and houses rebuild and get them new clothes and all that stuff. So, yep. Yeah, and with everything that's gone on, there's a whole bunch of people that are finding out, one, that their insurance isn't near as good as they thought it was going to be, or two, they're not insured for what they thought it was going to be or three they're insured and they're probably going to get fixed and then their insurance company is probably going to drop them yeah last thing i'll say about tornadoes we've been going along on this subject the only thing that could potentially kill barn talk is if a fucking tornado took this barn away yeah yeah we could rebuild it but never be the same it would never be the same because you just really can't build a barn like this no today so that's right so uh it's your holy water
Starting point is 00:15:17 Knock on wood. Yep. And if anybody was wondering and watched last week's episode, yes, my fly was down last week in that episode. Everybody kept commentate about it.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I took a piss before the show and I came back up here and I didn't realize it until we were about an hour in. Nice. I wasn't trying to give everybody a show or anything like that. But you did wear underwear that day.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I did. I did have underwear. My package wasn't hanging out. That's good. That's a good step in the right direction. Could have been a lot worse. Could have been, had to,
Starting point is 00:15:46 could have just been an embarrassing. Just add that to the list of future personnel that we need to have. Our checklist. We need a personal stylist. We need help. Light person and then just a person that comes up and just checks our zippers. Grips our package, make sure it's in check and then just... I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:08 You might have to pass that one. Lifts our zippers up. You might have to pass that by cat on that deal. Okay, well, good for you. I didn't even know that. glad we need everybody glad you got it all together we can get we can get everybody here employed
Starting point is 00:16:22 there's a job for everyone that's good because you know AI we'll get into that AI may replace a lot of people we might have to find some jobs we might have to find some roles for some people so market update and this is this was
Starting point is 00:16:39 the close yesterday because I haven't gandered what the hot numbers are this morning courtesy of cats grain Washington Iowa corn 464 local best price i could find local was 459 adm and cedar appids must need some corn because they're been 470 till the 27th of the month if you want to take your rig up there beans 1239 this side of the river 1228 at adm and burlington uh quincy illinois side 1251 bean meal 376 dollars a ton wheat, $7. Woo!
Starting point is 00:17:17 There's a drought. There was a drought in, they think there might be a drought in Russia, but then they got some rain, but they don't know, I don't know. Wheat has rallied like freaking crazy, so $7. I'm happy for the wheat guys.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Yep. We don't grow any, but... Don't grow any wheat here. I just rooting them on. Yep, good for them. Hogs, 9452. Hell yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Hell yeah. Sawyer's got kind of, a different perspective on the hog market than he ever used to have because he starts getting nervous when it gets over when it gets over a dollar he starts getting nervous yeah when you're in the meat business you got to buy livestock it's a little different than when you're selling the livestock yep so that's right he wants he wants uh we custom feed hogs so you know he he wants the price good enough that everybody can stay in business but he gets a little nervous when it gets high because he's running the math he's got the numbers running in his head he's like what's that carcass going to cost
Starting point is 00:18:15 um feeder cattle cattle 183 dollars uh feeder cattle 250 milk 20 dollars and 62 cents oil 7691 bitcoin 68 000 i think it might be a little bit higher than that it looked like it was rallying up a little bit getting back close to that 70 000 uh price that we hit earlier this year ethereum 3,700, Tesla, $173. I don't know, do you think the Tesla board is going to approve Elon's
Starting point is 00:18:48 salary package? And if they don't, you think he'll just leave? They'll leave. I think he will too. I think he'll say, you know what? I'm taking my football and I'm going home. Yep. You build your own. You build your own whatever the hell you're doing. I'm just going to go to SpaceX and spend all my time there.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I don't know, I think they'll prove it, though. gold 2332 silver 2755 beyond meat $7.20. Trash. Boo. I just like bagging on it. Boo.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Turn into a super mutant if you eat that. The head of the United Nations Food Security, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, came out and said that we need to radically, radically modify our, the world's food system because... because meat
Starting point is 00:19:40 yeah protein meat based agriculture is let's just eat seed oils let's eat seed oils let's eat seed oils let's eat shit made from a factory yep crickets
Starting point is 00:19:53 oh actually I don't think so seasoned crickets they're meat with red 40 on there I don't think he wants crickets either oh well just all plants I can't live in his world I'll die before I have to do that
Starting point is 00:20:06 So I'll tell you I'm not getting on that bad bandwagon. I don't know. That just won't die. They just keep trying on that deal. Yeah, and on the Tesla thing, I mean, they'd be stupid not to. Elon's such a, I mean, his brand is so important to Tesla's brand. You'd be an idiot to not pay him what he wants to be paid. The world's full of histories of idiots.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Well, especially big companies. They've made some mistakes here and there. Some that we didn't talk about, this is off topic, that we didn't talk about last week in our last hot topics. But Harrison Bucker from the Kansas City Chiefs, Chiefs Kicker. I could be butchered his last name, but I'm pretty sure it's Bucker. Harrison. People know who you're talking about. Yeah, kicker from Kansas City Chiefs, graduated, made a speech about women and stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:58 He didn't graduate. He gave a graduation speech. Right. He did graduate at some point. are you sure did he get his did he get his masters or something i don't know he was given the he was given the you know they have these people in and they speak at the graduation he had a whole gown he had a whole ass gown on he didn't graduate he was there i don't know he might have got his masters or something oh i hope not who knows this just goes to show you how much we've uh looked into it but just from the outside looking in the reaction i won't go into my really my thoughts on it but
Starting point is 00:21:33 just the reaction, he has become, his jersey has become the number one selling jersey for both men and women across the United States. So that just tells you where, I hate this fucking word, the silent majority, uh, is actually, lives where we actually live and to breathe and, you know, because what I really like about it is is when, when that, when everybody got wind of that, and they started publishing clips of what he said. And everybody, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the all started spinning it, you know, and people were just going after him, you know, because his white privilege and misogyny and plastic masculinity and men is the oppressor and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all that shit.
Starting point is 00:22:20 They're just piling on. And the chiefs came out and said that, you know, his opinions are his and they don't represent the chiefs. And then somebody, somebody looked at the sales. on the website and went, oh, shit. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute, wait a minute. So then they prayed out one of the daughters of the family that owns. Hunt. Yeah, and she comes out and says, you know, that, you know, that, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:48 it's his opinion and he's entitled to it, and she respected him for that. And then Andy Reid comes out. Oh, his was good response. And Andy Reid's was great. Yeah. Because he basically said, the reporter asked him, like, you know, pretty much oppressing women, like what do you think about these comments and he's like well it's his opinion uh you know i come in here all the time and you guys have all your a lot of terrible opinions but i let you in here still yeah so yeah you have a lot of opinions i don't agree with but i let you guys in here yeah and then so
Starting point is 00:23:20 and then since that these the sales have taken off and now then nobody's saying boo yeah so that just shows you how strong, how strong, uh, people's viewpoint on it. What you, oh, yeah, they're moral fiber, you know, like, oh, yeah, we're, we're, you know, solidly going to stand against him until, oh, wait, uh, yeah, he's an asset to the team. Uh, it's fine. It's a damn good kicker. I mean, he's a, he's a clutch kicker. He's been doing damn good job for the Kansas City Chiefs for a long time. But the thing I think it's so funny about it is, it was a Catholic school. Yep. He's a Catholic. He's standing by his beliefs. He was talking about,
Starting point is 00:24:02 he was talking to a Catholic group of people. That was not meant for every person in America. Right. And their beliefs. Like, that's not what that video was meant for. But they took it and ran it and they made it publicized for. It doesn't fit the gruel that were being fed. I mean, pretty much, oh, you know, when we talked about, last week, you know, we live in the upside down world. Okay, here's the thing. If you, if you, if you, if you believe in a normal family, or if you believe in family and, uh, you are a Christian, you believe in God, and you put your moral compass, I guess, uh, if you view that as important as far as being, being of a strong, you put your moral compass, I guess, uh, if you view that as important as far as being of a strong moral fiber and you believe in absolutes, you believe in
Starting point is 00:25:00 right and wrong, that is all stuff that's not popular in our culture because it's being attacked every single day. And so when he stood up there, when you're invited to give that speech, you're going to give your opinion, just like Jerry Seinfeld. Well, that's what I respect him for because nowadays everybody's vanilla as fuck. Yeah. We talked about this so many times. That's why we speak our mind on here. Being vanilla, people are sick of fucking vanilla.
Starting point is 00:25:31 People are tired of being vanilla. All these brands, all these companies, all these corporations, all these teams, all these organizations, everybody wants to tiptoe and walk on eggshells. Don't stir the feathers. Don't stir the pot too much. And be vanilla.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Vanilla is fucking boring. Vanilla is boring. People don't respect that. No. People do not respect that. Now, there may be some people out there that they are so, I don't know what you want to call it soft
Starting point is 00:26:08 or they have such a low tolerance for stress that that's what they want because they can't handle, they can't handle adversity. Can't handle the hate. Yeah. But the vast majority of people in this world, they just want to,
Starting point is 00:26:27 they want to have a real conversation with somebody and they want to know what people really think and they value somebody that can tell you what they think, tell you what they believe, and why they believe that. Yep. And he's a perfect example. It's why Joe Rogan's important and popular in culture.
Starting point is 00:26:45 It's why I like Scott Galway. Do Scott Galway? Galloway and I probably agree on everything politically. No, but do I respect him as a man? Because why? He's real as fuck. He's authentic as shit. He's going to tell you exactly how he feels, exactly how he thinks, and he's going to tell you why he thinks that. He doesn't give a shit what you think. I like that. I respect people that are like that. Harrison Bucker, same thing. People, he's the most number one selling jersey in the NFL right now, both women and men, because why? Because he spoke his damn mind.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Yeah. And people respect that. Obviously. That's, I think it's more people respect that he just went up there, spoke his mind, freedom of speech and just, yep. But honestly, I bet he did not think that. No. His speech.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I don't think he went up there with the intention that, oh, I'm about to say some shit and it's about to go viral and, and I'm going to just get this out everywhere. It just happened that way. Yeah. But you know what? Good for him to stand on. what he think is right. I respect that. We need more people to stand up for
Starting point is 00:27:54 what they believe and be vocal about it. 100%. So I like it. That's what makes America great, baby. Thanks for watching. Yep. So that was just all I wanted to throw out there because we just didn't get to it last week. So that was the only like really hot topic in this Q&A. Nobody asked, but we just said fuck it. This is our show. We're going to run it. We're going to start off with that
Starting point is 00:28:15 banger. So you needed to get something to get you a little problem. I did. I did. I was. I ate a pound of bacon this morning. He was feeling kind of, he was getting kind of, kind of sleepy. Yeah. Now you're good to go. Coffee and Hot Topic will get me fired up. I should have brought more.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I think I'm going to burn three more. I know. I'm gone, I'm gone too. All right. Well, I don't know if we want to go in order. Well, just go in order. Somebody asked, so somebody just basically asked us our opinions. Well, they'd watch the, they'd watch the Stephen McBee episode.
Starting point is 00:28:49 episode where they talked about there a lot of the land that they farmed down there they started using cover crops about what five years ago something like that so and they're really sold on them and this guy asked what our opinion was of cover crops and if we knew what
Starting point is 00:29:05 formula what they were using as far as the mix for their cover crops and we did not we didn't get into that and if they had any like if they had any baseline analysis on that ground before they started in today. So we'll have to ask when we get one of them back on about it. But I can tell you that we farm in one of the probably most, one of the biggest
Starting point is 00:29:39 cover crop counties in the state of Iowa. When the USDA came out and gave that grant money that you could get like $30 an acre for planting cover crops. Most people planted cover crops. A pile of people did. And it's very popular around here. And really, it doesn't matter whether you are talking really flat ground or really rolling ground. A lot of people run cover crops.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I would say probably more so on corn ground going to beans maybe than on people that are going to be planting corn on corn or bean ground going into corn. But there's a lot of guys that they do it 100%. And I like the idea of it. I have done it. I have done it one year and got along fine. My biggest issue with it was that at the time that I did cover crops, and it was just cereal rye is what we sowed.
Starting point is 00:30:58 We were still conventional, I'd say minimum tillage, so I went out and tried to kill it by field coelvate. and it was a spring kind of like this, not as wet, but it had gotten pretty tall by the time I went in and started trying to turn it under or field coelvate it. And I had a hell of a time with it flowing through the field collivator and didn't get a good kill on it, had to come in and spray it. And I just didn't like the difficulty we had planting into that. I think if I would have killed it, no-tilled right into it, I would have probably gotten along a lot better. And if we were going to do it today,
Starting point is 00:31:45 it would be a deal where we would just, we would kill it. We would do a burn down on it and then just no-till into it rather than do tillage because I don't, that doesn't work worth of crap for me. And this year, there are some guys around here that were, they were planting into it green and then burn it down. after the fact. In fact, Mitchell Hoare, I think, did that on some of his. And I don't know, we... What about cost-wise? Well, it's... Because that's the biggest thing for a lot of people that I think
Starting point is 00:32:21 look at it is, yeah, the nutrients and the diversification of the nutrients and what it does for your soil health and your micronutrients and all that. It's obviously a good thing to switch it up and add a little bit of diversity into your ground. I don't think people aren't sold on it. that. I think people believe that that's definitely the case, but it's just can it pencil? Can it cash flow? Does it add more to your input costs? Does it help reduce input costs? You know, what's the payout? Right. You know, you got to, can't do shit for free, especially farming nowadays, so, or even at a loss. I mean, right. Especially a year like this year, you know, everything's so high. Commodity markets are, they're,
Starting point is 00:33:09 I don't know, are they getting better? They're going to get worse? People are speculating. So it's just pencil. How does it pencil? Yeah. How's it cash flow? Well, I think that face value, it, I mean, I think it's a $30 an acre deal.
Starting point is 00:33:27 So if you've got a drill, if you've got a drill, or you can broadcast it. The year we did it, we just broadcast it with a fertilizer spreader and we got along okay. but that's kind of iffy year to year. If you have a fall that's dry and you don't get it out there early enough, sometimes you don't get a very good stand. So if you have a drill and you can do it, it's not as expensive as if you don't have one
Starting point is 00:33:54 and you're going to pay somebody to do it. And then the other thing you've got to look at, and we've talked about this before, is, so if it's your dirt, you own it, and your timeline, your horizon is, forever because you're not rent in this ground and you're going to be farming it for the rest of your life and hopefully your kids are,
Starting point is 00:34:17 well then if you can get it to break even in the short term, the long-term benefits are definitely worth it. But if you're paying cash rent and you're on a three-year lease or a five-year lease or a year-to-year lease, are you going to make that investment and then... Might not even be able to get it. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:38 And all those things go into it. So, I mean, it has its place for sure. And I think it just depends on your situation. It depends on your soil. I mean, there's places that you probably definitely want to do it for soil holding and for compaction issues and improving your soil structure. And then there's people that have really good dirt where it's more a deal of long-term organic matter build up and what you're going to do the soil long term. Anyway, it's really, it's like everything
Starting point is 00:35:14 in ag. There's a lot of ways to skin that cat and everybody's not opposed to it. We're not opposed to it. If I had a drill, if I had a drill, I'd probably do it. I probably would do it. I think for me, the main thing is you got to get it killed early though. You do not, I don't know whether I'm game to plan into it and then burn it down afterwards. So if I'm going to, I'm going to, you're going to, to plant into if i'm going to no tell into it i would want to get out there and kill it early we need or just get some cattle graze that rotate that rotate yeah look at you just what we need we need one more thing to do i know let's go get let's go the sale barn today oh wait we don't have a trailer we'll stop it we'll stop at kdk uh he's the dulae dealer we'll get a self a trailer and head to the sale barn
Starting point is 00:36:04 soon we're done shooting this yep we'll go we'll saddle up we'll go we'll go saddle up we'll go saddle up. All right, moving on. Opinion of the latest AIs chat GTP, chat GPT, 4.0 ECT. What the fuck is that? No, so that was just one example. So they brought out version 4-0,
Starting point is 00:36:31 which O means omnivore, which means that's just, the meaning of that is that it takes in everything, takes in video, audio, so if you're using it personally, if you're using it as a personal assistant, when it sits on your desktop, it just feeds it off all your emails, all your search histories, everything.
Starting point is 00:36:59 And then it's there to help you. I hate to say this. and those of you that, you know, used to listen to Rush Limbaugh, one thing that he used to say on the intro to his show was he would say snarkily that he's providing the show prep for every other radio talk show out there, meaning that everything he talked about, he would talk about it first and then everybody else would copy it. And sometimes I feel that way when it comes to stuff like this because one of the most, like my go-to podcast when it comes to technology and business, as far as what's going on, is all in podcast. I just love that thing. The conversations they have on there, I mean, sometimes it's hard for me to keep up with my tiny little mind, but they do some dives on stuff that you can really learn a lot. Like, I got to back up and relisten. to get it. But, uh, so they were just talking about the new, uh, the new chat, GTP. GP. Oh, GPT. Yeah, I think I try to make it like STP. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, uh, version 4.0 for omnivore. And I'm telling you people, uh, all I got to say is if you,
Starting point is 00:38:30 if you are working in a job where you are analyzing things, or you are organizing things, or you are giving opinions upon information that is given to you, Sawyer is usually the one that has the problem with this, but I'm just going to have to say, you're fucked, Rick, because you're going to get replaced. Because that kind of work, these AIs are just going to eat that up.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Like you, it's not even a contest. When it comes to finding information, analyzing it, categorizing it, giving it to you in short amount of time, people are not going to do that. They can't compete. They can't do it. And I'll give you the example that they used on All In.
Starting point is 00:39:26 They, they charged this, they charged chat with writing a letter to a personality that they wanted to have at one of their, the All-In Summit that they're planning. And so they told the AI to write a letter to this person and invite them to be a speaker and to give this person some example, give this person some examples of where they had quoted them on their podcast in glowing terms, in positive terms, and give them several examples of that. It literally wrote that letter, and they read it in like 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:40:20 And they didn't, and it did not know who the hosts were of the podcast, didn't have any of that information. They didn't give it to them. It just went out and found all that. and it found the episodes that they spoke about this person and it had the context of what they said about that person and that whole thing they did it in 30 seconds and they just said okay if you had one of their assistants do that
Starting point is 00:40:46 take them like 10 hours to do that did it in 30 seconds um yeah i mean's a juggernaut i use AI almost every day i mean when you talk about writing up emails and proofing your work, proof in product descriptions, proofing, proofing YouTube descriptions. You know,
Starting point is 00:41:12 a lot of the photos that we use in the background of our thumbnails that we use on YouTube, that's all AI generated. Because one, I don't want to take somebody's picture from the internet and get a copyright strike and then try to make, you know, I'm going to sue your ass.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Take down your video. Take down your video or take down your thumbnail because you use their picture. So I'm going to make original AI creative photos. And I don't have to worry about any of that. And you can make a prompt for whatever you think this episode's about to generate a photo for it. And I mean, it's just that photos right now. They're working on video and they're getting video to the point where it's going to be
Starting point is 00:41:53 just as easy to strike up a video with a prompt as it is a photo. and yeah, I think you're 100% right. When it comes to admin, when it comes to having your own assistant, going, finding, when you talk about like if you're thinking about starting a business and looking at the competitive landscape of that industry, AI is going to be able to go out there and do an analysis for you in a minute. Or, you know, doing research into another field inside that industry. Okay, we're thinking, well, for example, for me, let's just say we're thinking about
Starting point is 00:42:27 about getting into wholesale. How competitive is the wholesale business? What's the market share on that? Can we take, you know, AI can go do that for you and like nothing. Yeah. I had just in another example, I had a opportunity come to our plate at Farmer grade that we may or may not explore. It's a bigger opportunity. But, you know, I wanted to make sure that I had, I asked the right questions. And I came up with a few questions myself, a number of questions myself, wrote them out. But then I was like, know, I'm just going to ask AI, like, is there anything else? Explain the situation and ask, is there any other questions I should be asking here to make sure that my ass is covered, right? Spit me out like 15 other questions that were all really, really important questions.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Yeah. That shit, that is so, it's so huge. It's so essential to just making your work better and making your work faster. And, yeah. it's just awesome in that regard. And, you know, we've talked about AI so many times on the podcast of, is it right to use AI? Is it not right to use AI? How long are we just going to continue to let society shove technology down our throat and just keep accepting it with not really thinking about the repercussions that it could have?
Starting point is 00:43:45 And AI, everybody talks about how AI could be the death to humanity because it could just get so fucking smart that it realizes we don't need humans, right? and that's a scary thought but if you do not get on the train of AI and use it you're going to get left behind especially in business i mean yeah because your competitors are going to use it everybody around you's going to use it uh and the competitive advantage that you have the rate of like you said doing an analysis like that why why would why we you pay your assistant to do that for 15 hours, two days to do that, to run a whole competitive analysis or maybe going into a different industry when you could just have AI do it in 10 seconds
Starting point is 00:44:34 in a minute? It's like it's night and day. Well, night and day. Amazon presents Jeff versus Taco Truck Salsa, whether it's Verde, Roja, or the orange one. For Jeff, trying any salsa is like playing Russian roulette with a flame thrower. Luckily, Jeff saved with Amazon and stocked up on antacids, ginger tea, and milk. Habaniero, more like Habinier, yes. Save the everyday with Amazon. And I'm not going to get off into the weeds on it, but another great example of where it's at versus where it's going is the example of, the example of if you're if you're doing sales and a lot of companies a lot of these companies
Starting point is 00:45:27 you know they're they're using you know whether they're using uh zoom call or teams or whatever but they're you get together everybody's talking about sales and uh covering clients and generating leads and all that so today if you're using an AI or you're using like there's some competitors out there now to Slack. A lot of these companies use Slack, and there's some competitors to that that are using an AI in the background. And what's really interesting is you can go prompt that AI and in the example of sales and say, is there any, do we have any customers that we're missing, any customers that we haven't followed up with? that AI will go through and search through everybody's emails and texts and
Starting point is 00:46:26 messages back and forth and then spit out and say yeah here's a list to everybody that is either a potential customer or somebody that's done business with us within the last so many weeks that hasn't hasn't had any contact with okay that's where it's at today but we're very close i mean the speech at which it's learning and improving upon itself with these different with these different platforms it's going to get to the point where that AI is just sitting in the background and doesn't necessarily need to be prompted in other words if you are having one of these meetings and everybody's talking about sales it will be analyzing in the background and if
Starting point is 00:47:19 has something of interest, it very well will prompt in and say, I see that you're all discussing, you know, fourth quarter sales, here's a list of all of our customers that haven't been contacted, or this is the average order size, and these are the orders that maybe have backed off or whatever. It is going to learn what it needs to be looking for based on your conversations. based on your conversations in your business to where it literally is going to be your jarvis yep like ironman yeah so that's where as i was listening to all this i was just thinking you know there it's good to be it's good to be the it's good to be the heat and air guy it's good to be the welder it's good to be the carpenter it's good to be a lot of these things to be the farmer it's good to be the guy uh chore and the pigs
Starting point is 00:48:16 because if you're the executive assistant or you're the stock analysts or your anybody that is sifting through information, gathering information, interpreting information, basically moving information around, your days are numbered. I, good, bad, and I'm not saying to what you said, this is my advice. Don't stick your head in the sand and just say, AI is terrible and it's going to be the end of civilization and I don't want anything to do with it. Well, yeah, you can't do shit about that. You can't do anything about it.
Starting point is 00:48:51 So you better at least mess with it enough that you understand. You understand it. Gary Vee always talked, you know, he always talked about social media. People say, I don't want to get on social media. I don't want to use social media. Businesses don't want to use it and make content for their brand. And he'd be like, well, you're going to miss the greatest opportunity of marketing that's ever been, that's ever existed. And he's like, AI's coming up.
Starting point is 00:49:14 People are starting to ask him questions about. AI and he was just like, people are talking about how many people are going to get displaced and that very well might be true. And people are talking about how they don't want to learn it, but it's a necessary evil. It's a new thing that's coming into the world that's going to impact the world in every industry in a massive way. And you better understand, you better understand it or understand it a little bit or enough to adapt with it. And he was talking about how, you know, yes, jobs will go away and shit like that. But prompt, you know, there's going to be jobs open up where your whole job and sole focus is to make
Starting point is 00:49:52 sure that that AI is creating prompts. You're creating prompts for that AI, the better run your business, whatever, right? But it might get to the point where you don't even need to do prompts. You know, who knows. But there's going to be jobs created because of AI, but there are going to be a lot of jobs that are lost because of AI. And that's unfortunate. But last thing I'll say about that, and we've talked about on the show before too with AI you don't. I think there is going to be a little bit of a what you said about it's good to be the HVAC guy, it's good to be the welder, it's good to be all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Yeah. And robotics has a long way to go. But in my lifetime, who knows? Robotics could get to the point where when I'm your age or older, or it could be even quicker than that. It could be quicker. if they take the brain of an AI and put it into a robot and it can move like a human, it could replace you too, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And I think when everybody started first talking about AI, that's the first thing they thought about. Oh, all the plumbers, all the, all the HVAC guys, all the, all the blue collar jobs are going away. It's actually been the opposite. Yeah. It started with the creative jobs. Now it's getting into data analytical stuff. And it's kind of moving that way rather than. starting with the robotics.
Starting point is 00:51:11 But if robotics gets there, it could displace a lot of people. But you see? Go ahead. Okay. Last thing I'll say is there is going to be a moment, I think, in culture,
Starting point is 00:51:23 and businesses are going to add this to their value that there are 100% human, human workforce. Or this is 100% human-made product. Or we're a human-first business. we put humans first. And I think that that is
Starting point is 00:51:43 something that you're going to see more and more of in the future. As companies, there's going to be companies that take this shit on, full board, adopt every goddamn new AI technology that there is,
Starting point is 00:51:55 and they are going to displace everybody that they can in their work to minimize, uh, spend and overhead and make more money, right? But you're going to see that that's going to piss people off. That's going to piss people off. American people off. Some people aren't going to like that. And you're going to see the opposite where
Starting point is 00:52:14 maybe they adopt AI, some companies adopt AI a little bit, but there are people first business. And the example I immediately go to is first form, Andy Fersela, first form what they're doing. They have their own warehouse. They have their own fulfillment center. And every time, every once in a while, you'll catch Andy shooting an Instagram story of him just going around the warehouse of how big and massive it is and all these people running around and he always says caption always is you know real american people packing every single one of these orders being employed in st louis missouri yeah and that is powerful powerful people value that and as this movement continues to go that way that real american human people putting the time energy into your products that's going to have value
Starting point is 00:53:05 Yeah, it will 100%. But you got to walk that line of adopting it enough, but not adopting it too much. I don't know. It's going to be a weird way. It's going to play out a weird way. But anyway. One of my, I have two points to end with. One of them is another really interesting viewpoint that I heard on this is a lot of people think
Starting point is 00:53:30 that their knee-jerk reaction is that big, big, companies, big businesses are going to employ this AI and they're just going to be like they're going to be the ones to use it to their full potential and the point the interesting point that I that I heard yesterday was that actually AI may end up being like one of the biggest disruptors because big company, you know, are going to be no match for somebody that is very efficient and deploys AI very well. So I'll use Slack as an example. Slack's been out for like 10 years. And a lot of people use it, a lot of people use it, but a lot of people aren't happy with it 100%.
Starting point is 00:54:28 So now then you've got these people that are, you've got these startups that are way more efficient. and because they're using that AI in the background, they're just, it didn't pay for Slack to be first because they're going to get, they're going to get demolished by these startups. And their point was that any big company that's in about any industry, tech especially, the moats are going away because people that can deploy this AI and have the right ideas, have a better way of doing something,
Starting point is 00:55:08 instead of them going out and needing to get, you know, millions and millions of dollars, or even $5 million, now then they need like $500,000 because they don't have to, it doesn't, they don't need near as much money because the AI, they're using that more efficiently. So it's crazy. The other thing I'll say is if you ever,
Starting point is 00:55:28 I look, search this out. So you're talking about the robots. Have you seen that? clip of Rangelstar talking about Boston Dynamics. Well, I just know he talked about what bullets he's going to use. Oh, no, he's talking, he says he's like, save all of your, save all your web fencing. Because all you need to do when they, when they make these robots into killing machines, he says, just throw a half, just throw a roll of web fencing on him, watch him get through that.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Won't happen. You know what I mean? Because they'll get caught in it. Yeah. And I just like, since around and thinks up shit like that. Well, he does. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:10 So anyway. Yeah. He's good to follow in that regard. That and then paint, paint gun in their, paint gun in their cameras. So they can't see anything. Keep good oil-based paint around and a wove wire fence.
Starting point is 00:56:23 That's what you need. Okay. So, well, he's ready for it. We'll cross that bridge and we get there, I guess. Um, shit. Where do you want to go from here? I don't. I think we talked about future proof careers.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Crop update, I guess. We're kind of jumping around. Somebody asked about the crop update here in Southeast Iowa. Well, we just got piss pounded this morning. So if your corn and your beans aren't up, when this is done, they should be, because the ground is soft right now. But when it dries out, it's going to be a pretty good crust on it.
Starting point is 00:57:00 So hopefully everybody's, everybody's crop has emerged here in the state of Iowa that's got it planted. And if you don't have it planted, you're probably, you're probably thinking pretty hard about what varieties you're going to be, how far you're going to go before you're switching if you've got corn left to plant. But I don't think there's very much corn left to get planted, at least around us. I think, guys, we made a big den in it last week. People ran hard.
Starting point is 00:57:29 but all our corn is up and I'm actually going to go across the road and see where beans are. And there's already some guys, those guys that got in early and their corn has been up, they're outside dressing. So I saw a few anhyder's tanks rolling by yesterday and I've actually seen some people out that are side dressing liquid. So we're off and running. And the only thing I'll say about, I guess, the future of the crop is we have kind of put ourselves in a spot now that it better keep raining
Starting point is 00:58:07 because this crop is definitely not going to have to root down to get water. So if we get dry late, it's going to hurt a whole lot more than it has in past years where we've been dry pretty much the whole season to where the corn really, really rooted down. And this year it's not going to have to. the roots are just going to go straight out. So it's a good crop update. Yeah, look at that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Deep insightful. If we, if you were to build a hog barn today, what would you change or do differently? I have a lot of thoughts on this, especially when we've got into the whole direct-to-consumer meat space. And especially the amount of people that comment on our videos from us post and content.
Starting point is 00:58:56 and noticing and seeing what people comment, what they say, what they want, what they wish that we did or didn't do. And, you know, some of that shit that people say, you know, they just hate you no matter what you do as a hog producer. They hate you because you raise animals and produce pork, you know. They'll never be satisfied with however you do it. But there are people that have brought up some interesting ideas. And, you know, there's a really cool Canadian farm up in Canada.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Canada. Three gen organics is what their name is. And they're an independent hog producer. I think they have 140 sows. 180. 180 sows fair to finish. And their model of what they've done to separate themselves from the way that conventional pork is raised, they still raise pigs in a hog barn. But they've really changed things up to accommodate to appeal to the American consumer or Canadian consumer. And I look at those guys and I think they are pioneering big time in how they've built out their buildings. And it's really got me intrigued. You know, they allow their pigs outdoor access. They have hay out there. They still have a slatted barn inside. But, you know, just being honest, the biggest thing that we see from people that watch us is they always say, do the pigs go outside? Do the pigs go outside? the pigs get sunlight. It's like they get sunlight curtains and all that. But, you know, outdoor access is one of those things that, you know, when you're selling a product of your own
Starting point is 01:00:35 and the consumer sees value in that and you're not selling a commodity anymore, it makes you start thinking about that kind of stuff because you're selling to the consumer, right? Like what they say, what they think, how they perceive your farm, that matters. So, you know, there's a number of things that I think about that we could do on our barns if we ever went independent that I think could make our product even more valuable. You know, genetics being one, being able to control the genetics, how we see fit, their diet, outdoor access, more pen space per pig, because when you're selling pork direct to consumer in getting a better price, not being a price taker, but, you know, setting your price,
Starting point is 01:01:24 you probably don't have to raise as many pigs per pig space as you do right now. You know, all those things play into how I see Hog Barnes could be built in the future. But when it comes to the system and growing commodity pork, I mean, there's not going to be a lot of change there. I don't believe unless we can start separating manure. and make that a massive scaleability thing because that could do a lot for the industry. But design-wise,
Starting point is 01:02:00 if the manure separation things takes off, you could get shallow pits because there's no need to have a deep pit anymore because you're going to be separating manure in real time. But outside of that, I don't see much change in there. But seeing those guys out of Canada really gets my wheels turning.
Starting point is 01:02:21 when you're trying to raise your own pork. So I think they are pioneering that shit for sure. Yeah. So there's a lot of shit to think about there. And I keep sending dad videos saying, hey, watch this, watch this, watch this, watch this, watch this. Well, I'm a little more pragmatic than that because, I mean, I, if we can get to the point that we can take our regular sheds and convert them and do, we can Jerry Jones them. We'll just make the roof that retracts.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Yeah. Have a fucking TV's hang down. Well, we don't need TVs. We just roll that roof off and then roll it back on. But if I was building today, so my oldest barns going to be 14 years old this fall. So anywhere from 14 years old to three years old. Is that right? Well, mine, yeah, it's three years probably.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Three or four. First thing is I would definitely build the solid-sided barns like what we have. I would say put windows in them though Yes I wish we would have put windows in them Yeah I'd like it and for what it costs For what it costs I don't know why we didn't put windows We're gonna put windows in it Because we'll probably end up going back and doing that anyway
Starting point is 01:03:36 But the other thing that I would do different Is if I was building it today I wouldn't put any pit fans on them I would not put any pit fans on them Because I just don't think that you get the value out of of it because you can't pull air worth of crap through the pit anyway. And most of these pit fans, the performance on them is so bad. And then by the time you figure that the blades are dirty, and here's the other thing that just annoys the crap out of me is the shutters. If you go up to those, all my barns, you go through a winter where you have ice, you seem to all. You seem to
Starting point is 01:04:21 always have shutters you have to replace either individual blades or depending on the model of fan you have to replace the whole shutter because if you get a blade that breaks now then your fan if it's not running you're just drawing air in right there which is hurting the amount of air you're drawn out of your inlet because every place that's a leak is air coming in that's not coming from where you want it to and i would just eliminate them because the frack drive fans frequency drive fans they have today you could probably put one wall fan in a 52 inch wall fan and you can vary that you can slow that fan down all the way down to where it's not moving any more air than your first stage pit fans and basically replace all those pit fans with one big fan eliminate all those shutters
Starting point is 01:05:13 eliminate all those places for air to leak and really be able to direct your air better and it's just a cleaner install. That is one thing I would do, and the other thing I would do, like Sawyer said, I would build a bigger barn just because I feel like at some point, we keep taking these pigs bigger, and I think at some point the square footage
Starting point is 01:05:42 is going to get, they're going to go to a bigger square foot. footage is they make these pigs bigger. And if I was to do it over again, I would probably build just my footprint a little bigger for the size. And if you're building new, for what it costs, build a workroom bigger than you think it needs to be. Because we've got four barns and the barn that we built last, Sawyer's Barn, that workroom is the best one. And it's, You know, it's big enough that you can have a shower in there. And if you're waiting on a truck, there's room for people to sit.
Starting point is 01:06:26 You've got room to wash your clothes. If you need to work on something, you can bring it in the workroom. Cistern. Cistern's nice. Water pressure. Yep, having a cistern, having a standby generator. Got to have a generator. One thing I will say, the difference between Dad and I's solid side of Barnes.
Starting point is 01:06:43 So mine sits, my curtain side sits on the west side, where the sun comes up or where it shines, right? Where the sun goes down. Where the sun goes down. I don't know, for whatever reason, my barn's brighter than your barn. Yes, it is. And I think the reason it is is because where my fans are,
Starting point is 01:07:04 your curtain is. Yeah. My tunnel curtain faces east, your tunnel curtain faces west, and your barn is brighter than mine. Yes. So keep that in mind. Same number of lights and both.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Curtains, where you set your curtain on that solid, outside of barn matters when you're talking about getting light exposure in there. I don't know. We've thought about maybe it's the lights that you're using versus the lights that I'm using. I don't know, but I wish that that barn was a little bit brighter. Yeah, I do too. So keep that in mind when you're building a solid, if you're building a solid side of place. Oh, and that's something else. These builders, these builders don't count on the builder. Because I shouldn't say that. I mean, I was a builder for a long time, but the shit that these guys come up with like when you're when you're thinking about lights when you go through a bid uh compare the total
Starting point is 01:07:55 number of lights and there's a lot of builders that'll go 16 foot on center on their rows of lights like they'll have they'll have four rows or four or three rows of lights or four rows of lights in a in a double wide 50 wide room but count the total number of lights because if they're 16 feet apart that's not near enough light you need to have if i was doing it again I'd put four rows of lights in a 50-foot-wide room, and I'd have them on, I'd probably have them. If I went four rows, I probably would go, I don't know if I'd go 12-foot on center or not, but for what it costs, and with LED lights, you don't have to worry about overloading a breaker because the amp draws nothing. You can't have too many lights.
Starting point is 01:08:39 There's a lot there. A lot there. A lot of ways to do it. Yep. A lot of ways to skin that cat. Yes, that's right. That's a torque quote. Yep. I say we do our last one here. I've been going for a while. Should we end with a deep thought one? Sure. What's the biggest challenge you face in your life so far? Fucking raising me.
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Starting point is 01:09:43 There's a lot of things I could say. Going through the 90s, raising pigs, that was the biggest challenge. You know, starting a family, big. challenge. But I honestly, I think I'm living in the biggest, I think I'm living through the most challenging time in my life. And I guess you could say maybe I hope that it'll always be that way because I feel like navigating, navigating where we go from where we are right now to wherever, whenever it ends for me, but for generations to come in my family, if legacy is important to you and to, you know, if you're on a family farm,
Starting point is 01:10:43 like navigating how you're going to make that viable for another generation, there are so many opportunities, but there are so many challenges, and nobody's magic eight ball is very good. And there's a lot of days that I just, I feel like, you know, I feel like, I think everybody feels this way, but I thought my dad, like he always seemed very wise and, you know, like he just knew what to do. and now that I'm his age when I was tiny, I'm like, yeah, I don't know. If he had it all together, I'm really failing.
Starting point is 01:11:37 But I don't think he did. I think he did just a damn good job. I think he just put his head down and did what he thought was best. And that may be what we or what I have to do. But try and decide what the path forward, I think, is the biggest challenge. Thanks for take it, bug. Oh, sorry. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:11:57 It's fine. No, I would say, I would agree with what dad's saying. I mean, I'm young. I'm 24, so I really haven't had a lot of life experience. I mean, I think a hard time for me in my life was when I graduated high school right away and went right into the workforce. That was a challenging time for me just in the fact that all my friends left. I didn't feel like a lot of people believed in me in what I was trying to do.
Starting point is 01:12:25 they counted me out and I felt kind of like an outsider a little bit and I kind of had to find my way on what I wanted to do what I wanted to become what what kind of man was I going to become what was I going to try to build or strive for and just kind of shaping who I was becoming as a young young person a young man and that was challenging because you know you're you're young I don't think that gets talked about enough when you're young and you go from being a social high school person and having all this stuff to do to immediately jumping into the workforce and most of the people that you know leave you're just it's not like it used to be and it's kind of a little bit of a culture shock a little bit and the fact that it's like going 100 to nothing
Starting point is 01:13:10 really quick and it's just you and you got to kind of figure out and pioneer your own way and that can make or break you as a young person that you can either sit there and say okay well well, this is reality. What the fuck am I going to do about it? What are we going to do? Where do we go from here? I got to make, I got to do something. Or you don't do anything and you just kind of just let it hang over your head, I guess.
Starting point is 01:13:37 So that was definitely a challenging time for me, but I would definitely agree with that. You know, we're trying to do a lot right now. And some days, it really just feels like honest to God that all we do is work. I mean, no bullshit. I'm not trying to sound like, I'm not trying toot our own horn, but legitimately it's not a day off, and most farmers are that way. But, you know, it's just a lot sometimes. It's very challenging. And it feels like all I do is work and all you do is work. And we got to, it's kind of what's required right now. But I think that it's what we got to do if we want to keep this thing going. And we're going to get through it.
Starting point is 01:14:21 and we're going to be able to get there. But it is challenging some days. It is challenging. And it's not easy. And I think what dad said about just navigating the vision is also a challenge in itself outside of what the work requires or what it requires workwise. Just navigating where we're going, how we're doing it, is this the right path forward? Those are all questions that pop up into my mind.
Starting point is 01:14:51 and dad's mind. So, um, but life is, life is fun striving for something and having a challenge. Uh, it's hard some days. It's frustrating some days. Uh, it's, it's hard to get up out of bed some days and want to have that fire and passion every single day. But most days, it does feel like we're on to something and it, it does light our fire. Um, So, you know, if we didn't have this, if we didn't have this challenge in front of us, who knows how purposeful we'd feel? You know, that's what I'm most grateful for is just having a purpose, having a, having something to strive for, having something to drive towards, having a challenge to face every day. That's, that's the, that's probably the hardest challenge that I'm facing right now. but building farmer grade definitely has been a challenge for me and it has grown me tremendously
Starting point is 01:15:54 from when I started it 11 months ago and getting it even started had its own set of challenges. So that is, that's definitely challenging, but also navigating all the other stuff that we're doing on top of it is challenging as well. So, but in order to grow as a person, you got to go through shit. So we're going to keep running through the shit. Pound the stone. Pound the stone. Yep.
Starting point is 01:16:22 My worst day of working for myself is better than most every day was working for somebody else. There were some days working for other people that were pretty damn good, though. But as a whole, doing our own thing is way better. Yeah, I would agree. One more thing. I always forget because. I never think through when these podcasts are going to come out. Sawyer and I will be in Des Moines, Iowa, June 5th, 6th, or 6th, 7th?
Starting point is 01:17:02 I think it's 4th, 5th, 6th, 5th, 6th. Okay. Wednesday, Thursday. Des Moines, Iowa, World Pork Expo. If you're not a pork producer, it's probably worth going just for the barbecue. and there are booth. There are so many hospitality tents down there. And here's my word of advice to anybody.
Starting point is 01:17:24 If you're walking down there and there's a hospitality tent, if you just walk in and act like you belong there, nobody's going to say anything to you. Just go have some barbecue because they all made too much anyway. But we will be there. We're going to be doing some stuff with the National Pork Board. We'll probably stop in and see our friends at AP. will probably be in AP's part off and on.
Starting point is 01:17:48 We'll stop at the PSI booth. We might even be down at, hell, we might even go down to Barn Tools, see how they're getting along without us. We'll be floating around. Just look for the really tall, look for the really tall guy that's got like the little toady following him around,
Starting point is 01:18:04 and that'll be me. Yep. So if you're there, say hi. Stop by and say hi. Don't be afraid to chat with us. I feel like everybody likes chatting to torque, but nobody likes chatting to me. Well, you're an intimidating son of a bitch. I guess. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:18:20 I always ask people, do I got a resting bitch face? I feel like sometimes I do. Well, you kind of got a face only a mother could love. Thanks, Dad. I know where you stand. I'm just kidding. Okay, well, I think that's going to wrap it up, guys. We appreciate all your questions.
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