Barn Talk - Hot Topics: John Deere's Controversy and Political Predictions
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Last thing, just thought of this.
We also have a YouTube channel if you're listening,
and you want to watch us.
You can check out our ugly faces on YouTube
every time we post an episode
we got a video version as well.
So that's what I got.
Speak for yourself.
I feel pretty good.
I just got a haircut.
You look like you
you look like you went through the gauntlet.
You got your hair spiked all the way.
It is a little puffy.
It does get a little puffy with the humidity.
Yeah, it looks like you just like
stuck your head out of the car
and just let the wind catch you.
I kind of did.
I styled it straight back today.
Straight back.
Well, I don't look any better. I just got done mowing the yard.
You look like your desk dress for spring.
I know. Well, I'm so pale that, you know, I don't like really getting sunburn all too much.
So I tend to cover myself up a little bit. And I also went and chored. So I took my shirt off anyway and put on cover all.
So I don't smell the best either.
Yeah, you don't feel. It's a little bit of a rough, rough day today. I'm just, I haven't, I don't feel clean at all yet.
but we'll get there.
We're kind of, we're struggling a little bit.
I just got back from NPIC National Pork Industry Conference.
Nice.
In Wisconsin Dells.
I was up there for three days.
And so it doesn't seem like, what day is it?
It's Friday?
Friday.
It doesn't seem like Friday.
And we're behind.
We got too much stuff to do and not enough time to get it done.
But that's okay.
The mood of the swine industry is not,
very good and we'll do the hot market update but basically hog prices have not performed anywhere near
what everybody thought they would packer margins not very good producer margin is in the shitter
the only one making money is the retailer retail margins are pretty good on pork and I think the
problem we got is we're right there in that sweet spot where we're producing enough pork
that there is not a scarcity, but at the same time, there's not a glut.
So the price just stays right there about that $90 mark, $88 bucks on the 100-weight price.
And that is, if you're the best, if you're in the top 10% as far as your cost of production
and how good a job you've done hedging your pigs, you probably,
probably making a little money. And if you're not, or if you're in an area where you're paying
a pretty strong basis for corn, you're probably losing some money. But it was, yeah, really good,
seeing a lot of people. And I would be a miss if I didn't, I would be remiss, right? Is it remiss?
I don't know. I would feel bad if I didn't shout out and say that I really appreciate our friends
at AP, automated production.
They actually sponsored my way up there.
And my good friends at PSI out of Wilming, Iowa,
they paid for my room.
So that was kind of nice because I'm a tight ass.
And you do have to be, you do have to be invited to go.
You can't just show up.
Yeah, it's all about the networking.
Networking.
You got that in spades.
Yep.
We got a whiskey minute that we're going to do at the end of the show here.
We're going to, it's just been one of those days, guys.
Just been one of those days.
A lot of stuff to do.
feel a little bit stressed, you know?
It's just been one of those days
where nothing seems to be going.
Quite right.
Quite right or the way you thought it would go.
You tried to do this seven hours earlier.
Yeah, but we couldn't quite make it swing.
So we're going to have a little sip of some good stuff at the end here.
So be looking out for that.
Well, why don't you give them the rest of the hot market update?
I might or might not already be sampling.
Oh, there you go.
That's why you couldn't make the difference of those two words.
there could be i might be slur you were up here a little bit before i was i had to wait i had to wait
my printer is not working very well so it's awful the contrast isn't very good need your glasses old man
nope i'm good all right good eyesight still there yep oh yeah 100 percent 100 percent uh i'm squared away
corn for july 407 locally uh 452 and 461 at cargill in a or cedar rapids adm sorry not cargill
Beans 1137. That's on the board for July, Burlington, 1197, 1219, Quincy.
Wheat 554, and I'll tell you right now, wheat took a wall up because the USDA crop report came out today.
We're recording this on the 12th.
And it was actually pretty bullish for corn and soybeans.
about 145 million bushels of corn disappeared because of the demand.
The old crop and new crop demand.
But wheat, they found a bunch of wheat yield out there and bushels,
and it just got hammered.
So as a result, we didn't get much bounce off of corn or soybeans
because wheat kind of just pissed all over everybody.
So wheat 554, but it's probably.
about 13 cents lower than that because it had the hammer hogs 8855 right there you look out you got to go
all the way to fall to get a hundred dollar hog number and by the time we get there i don't think it'll be
there cattle 183 feeder cattle 257 crude oil 83 dollars for july bitcoin bitcoin 57 bitcoin 57 000 300
I just think that with the momentum in the equity market, the S&P 500, it's basically the S&P 7 and 463 other stocks
don't do so well, because if you pull out the seven biggest stocks on the tech side, nothing else
is moving near as well as that, but those seven drag it along.
So I think a lot of money's flowing into equities and commodities,
and as a result, Bitcoin, not getting a lot of money flowing in there.
Tesla 241, it took a hit today, too.
Gold, $2,420.
That is a pretty high price for gold.
Silver, $2868, Beyond meat, $6.84.
Just like throwing that in there.
But what I wanted to know was, how much corner beans do any of you guys have priced out there for new crop?
Because I'll just flat tell you, I don't have any.
many priced for new crop. I almost, I almost sold some corn there earlier when we were at the,
you know, 460, but in my marketing plan, I was really banking on getting some $4.75
corn sold, so I didn't sell it, and probably should have. But got quite a ways before fall,
so I don't know what's going to happen. But I'm just curious.
Do you look out there? Do you think USDA is right? Do you think that we're going to have this crop?
Do you think that we're undervalued or overvalued? I'd be curious to know that because I
We've had almost perfect weather. We're not tasseled yet. We're just starting to tassel because we're a little bit
behind. We didn't finish up planting corn until the 17th of May. There is some corn around the area that has tasseled and is pollinating.
and the weather's been damn near perfect.
And a lot of people say this is the most critical time,
and if that is the case, we've had almost ideal weather.
My question is, how much is the fringe areas
and the areas that are wet and the areas that didn't get replanted
or got replanted really, really late?
How much does that hurt?
And then the other thing is, in dry years,
you don't have to worry about that fertilizer going anywhere. It stays put. And this year,
I'm wondering whether or not there's going to be some huge top end yields out there,
but I just wonder whether or not those areas of the fields that aren't tiled real well or low
or rolling or whatever is that is your fertilizer getting away from your corn to where that top end
is going to get nicked. I don't know. I'd be curious to know. I'd love to have to have it. I'd love to
have somebody tell me what to do because I usually do the wrong thing. But yeah, how much corner
beans do you have price going into fall? I'd like to know your thoughts on that. That was a very
in-depth market update. I think people appreciate that. Yeah, it's been a, it's been a different year
than the last three years. You know, the last three years before this one, it was all dry.
This year, like you said the other day, every cloud that comes over, it feels like some drops of
rain are coming out of it no matter what cloud comes over. And that's, you know, that hasn't happened
in a lot in a few years. So we're getting rain, but we're also getting that humidity and sunshine.
So it's just a question of what you said, is that, is that fertilizer and manure going to
leach out or is it going to stay down and really get to the corn crop? I don't know. We'll just have
to see. I think you're right in the fact that your good spots will be really high,
but there might be some more inconsistency throughout the whole field
depending on what the field is or how it looks.
And I'll add one more thing.
The crop report as far as how much the crop is rated, poor, good, excellent, whatever.
In any other industry, if a number was thrown out there
where the survey of producers that got the,
information that is portrayed. If that information was only from, let's just say, less than 40% of the
actual farmers, and the farmers that were surveyed got no instructions as to how to quantify,
whether it's poor, good, excellent, whatever, that report would be thrown out like they
wouldn't use it. But we use it. So the crop ratings, less than 40% of farmers respond to that,
and most of them probably lie, I would imagine. I don't know. Maybe not. But somehow we still use
that data. There's an awful lot of things in agriculture today that are so antiquated that we
shouldn't be using them. And USDA is one of those things. I think that they're, I think that's just an
absolute dinosaur. All you have to do is go to your local ASC office and see all the shit that
they still do on paper. And the fact that you still have to go there, like Doc you sign that
shit. And not only that, you should just be able to go online and do it all. But hey,
that's your tax dollars, hard at work. So anyway, I digress. We should move on.
You're already getting hot. Maybe it's hot topics. Yeah, that's not bad. A little hot.
That's the whiskey talking.
Might be.
I'm getting pissed up.
Well, we're going to start with our first topic here.
This will get you even more pissed up.
So I'll kind of tee off here.
So dad had an experience this past week or maybe this whole summer.
You know, we're going to bag on the jeggernaut of Amazon.
So if any of you know, Amazon for a long time, they just had Amazon trucks.
it's all they had right but now you got random cars pulling into the driveway that are you don't know if it's
amazon or who the hell it is but they end up being amazon because they don't they don't even have
a truck yet or they just don't have enough trucks or i don't know why or they wreck their truck or they
wreck their truck or whatever so uh i guess i'll kind of let you tell the story but this is this is
really funny because i work with a uPS driver every single week to come and pick up our orders at
Farmer Grade Warehouse and I love our UPS driver. Dan the man, shout out to you. He does a
awesome job. He's always there on time, always, always in a good mood, never giving me problems.
And I love the service that I have with them. But go ahead with what happened.
I guess my question is who is the bravest, the bravest delivery service? And the reason I ask that is because I was actually
on my way home from Wisconsin.
And I get a call.
And what's funny about this is I don't have a dog anymore.
My dog, the original Duke, German Shepherd, awesome dog, best dog I've ever had.
He died a couple years ago.
And so I have kind of sneakily adopted Sawyer and Cats dog.
So their dog, it's a chocolate English.
lab. His name's Duke
also. And
he's like my
grand dog because
he comes up to my house, hangs
out with me, likes to ride in the car,
loves it when I'm grilling.
I might or might not occasionally
drop a snack to him once in a while, even though
he's on a rigid diet.
But,
yeah, he's my buddy. And that dog
is like...
Doesn't have a mean bone in his body.
There's nothing intimidating. For one,
anybody knows anything about dogs. I don't think I've ever seen an intimidating English lab.
I don't know. They're pretty much all stomach and they would like to lick you to death or they want you to rub their butt.
You know, I mean, that's their deal. But I get this call and it's this Amazon delivery driver and he says he's got a package, he's out my house, but there's a dog.
And that's all he says. I'm at your house, but there's a dog.
And I'm like, yep, yep, there's a dog.
I said, that dog is nice as pie.
I said, he won't hurt you, you don't have to worry.
He's like, could you come get the dog?
I said, well, I'm not home.
And I had no idea if my wife was there or not.
I said, nobody's there.
I said, but he won't hurt, you'll be fine.
I said, just tell him to get away.
He'll back up, he'll give you space.
He's like, okay, I'm going to try it.
I'm going to try it.
And you hear him open the door, and he's like,
what's his name? I tell him his name, and he's like, Duke, get away, get away. And apparently Duke,
you know, kind of looked at him like, what? And backed up. And this has happened so many times.
And I just think about this. And I'm like, UPS man doesn't ever do that. UPS wheels in there,
backs up to my door, hops out, throws the dog a biscuit, whether the dog will eat it or not.
the FedEx guy, I've never seen a FedEx guy,
cringe at a dog.
Hell, my speedy delivery guy.
Nothing.
These Amazon drivers, like, what is the deal?
Like, are they, is it a liability?
Is Amazon so damn afraid that if something happens,
like they're going to turn around and sue Amazon?
I don't know.
But I'm just like, come on, guys.
Yeah, rule.
I mean, I maybe, you know, I guess the majority of,
other packages are probably getting delivered in the city and you don't have dogs sitting on the
front lawn but but you do in country in the country i mean you're there's farm dogs just about at
every farm so you're going to have to you're going to have to have a different protocol than
because if every time you got to get a package for amazon they got to call you because there's a dog
outside that's it's a driver by driver that's stupid that's not that's i mean you now make you not
want to order something from them. You know, though, it got me thinking. Uh, you know, what the fuck
is wrong with the delivery drivers now? Yeah. Where's the heart? Wissified. Wissified. Well,
maybe. Yeah. But not UPS. Not UPS. I'll tell you what. Dan the man would never do that.
No, that's right. Dan the man would get out and pet that dog. Yep. And he would get that package to our
doorstep. Uh, UPS and FedEx to some extent, although
You always seem to get a variety of UPS or FedEx drivers.
Like our FedEx comes from two different places.
So Cedar Rapids, Iowa or a tumble, Iowa,
depending on who ships what to who,
you'll get a driver from one of those two places.
But in a world where there's very few, like, traditions,
like we've talked about how they're,
when we grew up, everybody watched the same TV show,
because we only had three channels.
And, you know, there was a lot of similarity
and there was a lot of stuff that you had shared experiences.
One of the few shared experiences left in this world
is your UPS man.
You can count on your UPS man
because there's a little bit of change,
but you get the same guy.
I had, old Chris was my UPS man for a long time,
but he doesn't make it out there very much
because they changed his route.
But I got a new guy.
I like him.
He's a good guy.
Not scared of dogs.
And I would say also, just to kind of go on traditions, the delivery driver, the delivery man and a dog, they have a special bond as well.
Have you seen this video? Every time a delivery man comes, I mean, Dan always tells me, he just has a route and he knows the dogs just like he knows the people.
Yep. It's like a, it's a thing. He knows the dogs just as much as he knows the people and he loves the dogs and he always gives him a treat when he sees him.
Have you seen those delivery drivers that have made the montage TikToks of every dog?
that they have on their route every day.
That's pretty awesome.
It is awesome.
Amazon guys, they don't have that.
They don't have that.
No montage.
Fucking Amazon.
Ah, anyway, minor deal.
Just another thing to bag on them.
That was kind of a fun hot topic.
Nothing crazy, but grow some balls.
Grow some balls.
I know there's some bad dogs out there,
and it's okay to be leery, but most of time,
I think owners probably take good care of their dogs.
Yeah.
At least make a note.
hopefully you don't get a call again.
You know, maybe hopefully he wrote that into the system that
Torque's house is good.
The dog is friendly.
So he won't call you ever again.
I wouldn't.
Yeah, I wouldn't count on that either.
Yeah.
I wouldn't count on that.
No.
Okay, this one, this one is a hot.
This is probably the hottest topic we got.
Yeah, especially in our world of ag.
And it just keeps, it just keeps getting a little more speed rolling on it as it goes.
worse. So this started a couple weeks ago. John Deere announced, well, actually it started
before that. So before any of these layoffs were announced, they announced that they were
going to move some of their production to Mexico. And I'm pretty sure they've already got
quite a bit of production on some of their smaller stuff. Excuse me, it's the whiskey. Whiskey's
working me up. They've got, you know, hell, they got production.
all over the world, but they've got a lot of manufacturing. They've been building down in Mexico
and other places. But they announced that they were moving some of their production from Iowa
to Mexico. Then came the layoffs. They announced they were going to lay off some people from
Waterloo, and I think they were going to lay off some people from their Combine Harvester deal in the
Quad Cities. Des Moines, too. Yeah, and some people out of Des Moines, which is their like design
engineering deal. I got a buddy that works there. Yeah. He got he made the cut. He made the cut.
But there was some, there was some layoffs. He's top notch. He's risen to the top. Yeah, he is.
I won't say his name, but he's, he knows who he is. Sharp individual. Yeah. But then, and I would say
they all, they also, today, today's Friday to 12th, they announced today they were laying off
another 345 employees out of Waterloo. But then, June.
Just like a few days ago, this video surfaced by a documentary filmmaker,
and he was basically validating charges from former employees that Deere and their CEO,
their new CEO, are like 100% going down the road like tractor supply.
EI, diversity, equity, inclusion, and a lot of woke policies.
And the example they gave was that employees were basically encouraged and rewarded to
narc off fellow employees if they used any terms or didn't follow protocol of these DEI policies.
that they had. And the other thing that they
gave an example of was how
Deer has moved towards all their email internally
everybody's got to use
she, him, he, her,
and not, you know,
Mr. Mrs. whatever.
And that a group of their
finance people
they put them through like
like a DEI training deal, and they were given the examples of all the literature they had to read
and all the exercises they had to do. And Twitter was just blowing up with people that are just
reading Deere the Riot Act. And there was one guy on there that just made the blip that
they buy 22 John Deere tractors a year, and they're going to have to think about that. And it got me
thinking, because we have a hell of a lot of deer equipment. The tractors I have,
mowers, skid loaders, a lot of the small equipment I have, all come from deer. And it really isn't
as much that I got a hard on for deer as it is that the service is right here, four miles away
from my house. So that's super important to me. But as this thing just keeps rolling along,
And it seems to be gaining more and more attention.
It's getting picked up nationally.
More groups are getting,
and more people are getting pissed off about it.
I just thought,
so this will be a really interesting, I guess,
situation in the fact that...
They might have budlided themselves.
Well, they might have.
They might have, but are farmers so pissed off about it?
Well, are they pissed off about it?
Are they pissed off enough about it that they would change brands?
But the other thing is, are farmers so embedded into Deere's technology as far as all their mapping,
as far as their machine management, all of that stuff, are we to the point where guys couldn't
switch if they wanted to?
I mean, you can.
Yes, you can.
But I'm saying is, have they?
hooked us so well with the technology and all the things beyond just the piece of equipment
that farmers aren't willing to go through the pain to quit that even if they don't agree with
the politics. And I think that's what's going to be interesting to come out. Because we
told ourselves as being traditionally farmers are very conservative, very passionate about
America. Their beliefs.
but this is kind of where muscle hits the road if this all proves out i mean if if this holds up
because there's some pushback on it and i am sure that uh the the uh public relations side of
deer's working 24-7 figured out how they're going to how they're going to counter this narrative
but if it if it holds true if it proves out well anything
happen? Will anything change? Hard to say. It's really hard to say. I think you're right.
It's going to, we're going to have to just kind of look and see how it plays out.
I don't think this is the only bad decision deer has made in the last couple months.
You know, they did that whole campaign with Chief Tractor Officer that was going to ride the
country. That was a shit show. That was going to ride the country with their new sponsored athlete,
Brock Purdy, and they're going to go and they're going to do this whole campaign across the United
States and learned from other farms. And they picked, not bagging on the kid at all. But, you know,
this one is, they hyped it up to be like they're going to pick a farm person. They're going to
pick this farm kid. This is like a chance to unite the farm community. They played it like they
were going to pick somebody to represent the farmers as much as deer. Right. They hide,
and this was going to be a great, I felt like it was a great way to get the modern times aligned with
kind of the FFA ag, you know, just the ag community.
I thought it would have been a fantastic way.
And they didn't go that route.
They decided to go with a kid that doesn't know a whole lot about farming, you know,
and nothing to not bagging on the kid at all.
Didn't know nothing.
He just made a really good jingle.
He, I think he writes music or sings or whatever.
And they picked him.
A lot of people were pissed about that.
A lot of people.
A lot of people were pissed about that too because they were like,
you made it seem like you were going to pick.
a farmer, you know, that's, that was kind of the, the point of it.
Or at least Corey. I mean, I wouldn't exactly put Corey. Yeah, Corey from Farm for
profit. He, he made a, he ran a hell of a campaign. He ran a hell of a campaign, man. He was
really going after it. Uh, but yeah, I don't know. I, I don't know why these companies.
Well, I know why. They got shareholders and they want all this DEI shit. They want,
they're not going to get the money if they don't do this DEI shit. So they got to do the
DEI shit. Yeah. And that's the unfortunate part, but it's pretty fucking obvious that the American
consumer doesn't want the DEI shit. They don't want the woke shit. We don't want it. Yeah.
We don't want the woke shit. It's not working. So just stop doing that shit. It's not working.
Nobody wants to, most people probably don't want to work for woke-ass companies. It makes it harder
to work in the workplace. I'm all about treating each other right. And obviously there's boundaries that you
should not cross and you should have respect for one another, but you should also be able to have
a little bit of fucking fun at the workplace and enjoy your time with your employees. And, and, and
let's just, it's the same thing as, uh, not being able to stop because you see a dog. Let's,
let's, let's get over our safe space shit. Yeah. Like, if you're going to go out in the world and get a
fucking job, the world's not a safe place. Yeah. I mean, you had better grow yourself a little bit of
thick skin that if I give you some smart-ass comment, that does not rock your world and you got to
take a fucking two-week mental health break. Yeah. And let's, I'll just, I just want to say one thing
about the chief tractor officer deal. Yeah. If Deere had half a fucking brain, the person they should
have hired as chief tractor officer wasn't even running. You know who they should have hired? Tony
Reed.
Growing corn.
Tony Reed would have been the perfect
chief track.
But you can't,
you can't.
It's,
we have the same,
we have the same experience.
These brands all want to be within the culture,
all want to have a social media strategy,
all,
all want to do influencer,
creator work and work with other creators and,
you know,
really connect with the consumer,
you know.
But then they,
they come out with these rules of what,
The creators.
You can't say this.
Can't say this.
Can't wear this.
Can't do this.
We don't want this person representing this.
We got to have this person watch this video.
Or five different people got to watch this video to approve it.
Got to review it.
It's like that Tony Root would never work because they, you know.
But exactly.
I know what you're trying to say.
He would have connected and been the most real person that they could have got.
The customer base of John Deere would have loved him.
Both agricultural and construction would have loved that.
Oh, yeah.
Perfect.
He would have been, yeah, he would have connected.
I think, and people would have probably loved them too.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, some people probably wouldn't have liked the F bombs.
Like, they don't like my F bombs on here, but it is what it is.
Whatever.
But, yeah, I agree.
They should have, in my opinion, they should have picked a farmer and used it as a way to connect
with the ag community.
That's just my personal opinion.
it plays out but and we'll also see how this the rest of this plays out yeah i just don't understand
why well again i it's it's it's all about money at the end of the day they got to do it because
they're not going to get the funding or get the money if they don't do this dey i shit um well they're
getting pressure there's no doubt they're getting pressure from the top all the companies are all
these major companies that are public are getting the fucking they're getting this thrown at them
pressure to do it yep they're all getting pressure to do it and that's why it's like it's like it's
like, man, fuck going public.
Going public is just like you sell your soul.
It's like the kiss of death.
Yeah, you sell your soul.
Yeah, it's great money.
But it's, man, you sell your soul to the system.
It's just whether it's what you want.
If your only goal is to cash in.
Yeah.
Get a big paycheck.
Then going public, that's the way to go.
But if you want to, if you want to build a legacy and if you want to build something
that stands a test time going public,
Yeah, I mean, look at the Budweiser family.
Yeah.
You know, we talked about that.
They cashed out.
And you trust that that ownership is going to do right by you and they made some mistakes.
Only as good as the people that you hire.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
I just, I think people are sick of it.
I think, hell, employees are sick of it.
I'm sure there's dear employees that are even pissed about it and are just like,
this is bullshit.
But they can't say anything.
Can't say anything.
You're trapped.
Get drug in HR.
Right.
So we need more real.
American companies that aren't going to be pushing this shit that are private can dictate
shit on our own terms that do right by the American consumer or right by the American
workforce and create a great product and keep power in their own hands and don't sell
their soul. So there you go. You could say that for a number of things. Celebrities, actors,
actresses, musicians, etc. But yeah, yeah, well, that's a good, that's a good tie-in because I think
we are. Really? I just shot that out of my ass there. You did good.
because I think that's so talking about actors and Hollywood and all that.
The whole Joe Biden thing has just, I have listened to a lot.
I've listened to a lot of people speculate, talk about what, which way the Democrats are going to go.
And we've had a lot of questions come in from people wanting to know, you know, what do you think?
Is Gavin Newsom going to run?
run? Are they going to let Kamala run? What's the deal? And I mean, I don't know about you, but I
honestly don't know. Nothing would surprise me. I can't, I can't give me an answer. I honestly don't
know. He says he's going to stay. But all the major news outlets now all point out of all the
mistakes that he makes. Oh, yeah. It's so it is just, it's just like, it's just like I said on the last
episode when we got this asked this question. They made it, made us seem like we were crazy
questioning this president and his behavior for the last three and a half years. But now we lead
this, we lead the lamb out to slaughter on the debate against Trump. And now all the knives are
out and everybody's just stabbing. And it's, it's it's left wing, right wing, all the major news
outlets. He just gave that speech last night. Press call called called Zelinksy. Zillink. What the
hell's his name. Zolinsky. Zalinski,
Putin. Yep.
And he...
Kamala called Kamala.
His vice president of Trump. Yeah.
Did you see that meaning?
So if nothing else, Joe Biden will go down in history is the greatest meme president
of all time. Great meme last night. They had Zelensky
shaken hands with Kamala and it said, it was Kamala.
She goes, she's like, welcome
welcome President Putin and he's like thank you vice president Trump yeah that's just like oh
but you can't make that shit you can't you can't not see that everywhere I mean the daily mail and I feel
like the daily mail's pretty left wing from any time I saw it but I saw a daily mail news story on it
and I was just like hell if the daily mail is posting this so jeez they're out for blood here's the
biggest this may be the one
thing out of all of it that tells the tale as far as what's going to happen as far as will
Biden stay, will he go, and if he goes, who's going to replace it? And I didn't know this,
but all of the money that has been raised for his presidential re-election campaign, and it's
it's like a billion dollars it is a shitload of money that money can only be used by him or camala
if you go to the democratic convention and they say we're going a different direction and you use the superdelegates
to switch him out whoever that person is cannot use that money now i think
that money can go to congressional races, but it cannot be used for the presidential campaign of
anybody but him or Kamala. And so a lot of people were saying, well, then we should run somebody
like Peter Thiel or the guy that runs Larry Fink that runs Black Rock or somebody like that.
and I believe this
I guess I believe this theory
that'll never happen because
even though those guys
donate a hell of a lot of money to the Democratic Party
and their big libs
they are not liked by the base
because you got to remember
Oh yeah black rock nobody likes fucking black rock
You're die hard Democrats at this point
this isn't your dad
this isn't this isn't your Kennedy Democrats
these people are far left
redistribution of wealth
super tax on the rich
super
climate change
those people never vote
for a businessman
so a lot of people are like we need to get a businessman
that's just as good as businessman is what Trump is
that'll never
work. So then you're like, okay, well, are you going to run Gavin Newsom? Well, there's not enough time.
And Gavin Newsom might be the best person that is not like a businessman that could raise serious
capital to run. I've seen an interview where he didn't seem like he was interested. Yeah, I don't think
his heart's in it. He wants Biden to continue to run. And here's the other thing. And this is where you were talking about
Hollywood and all that.
So there's a huge backlash
among
Hollywood elites
because
the guy that
the guy that
I think it's Jerry Katzenberg is his name.
George Clooney? Huh?
George Clooney? No, no.
Katsenberg is
he is a huge producer in Hollywood
and he's also a huge bundler.
Like he's the guy
that was really tight with Biden, and he raised a shitload of money for the Biden deal.
And now then, like George Clooney is one of the people, they're super pissed at him,
because they feel like they were betrayed, because this guy kept telling all the Hollywood people
that, oh, Biden, he's sharp as attack. He, it's, you don't have to worry, he's good.
And then after the debate, they're all like, what the hell is going on? And one of those people
is Rahm Emanuel's brother.
Rom Emanuel's brother
runs one of the biggest talent agencies in the world,
and he was interviewed,
and basically they're done with Biden.
Like all of the Hollywood elites are super pissed,
not going to give one more dollar.
And this is just after, I mean,
literally before the debates,
all these people, George Clooney included,
they were lockstep.
They're among the ones that were like,
Robert, Robert Niro.
Yeah, and Robert De Niro.
Got his ninth kid coming at 82.
Gonna be dead by the time he's...
Pillar the community.
He doesn't know what the fuck he's doing either.
Anyway, but he's got Viagoras, so that's good.
Yeah.
But anyway, so there's this riff,
but when you strip it all away,
like most things, and we talk about it on here,
you know, follow the money.
Well, I think at the end of the day,
they got to decide.
They're either going to run Kamala or they're going to run him.
And what's scary about Kamala is, I feel like, and this is me just totally pulling this shit out of my ass.
So before y'all are like, oh yeah, by the way, we are not political experts, financial experts, medical experts.
I mean, whatever you look out there as an expert, we're none of those things.
We're not even, we're not even that good at farming.
So when we have somebody on this podcast that talks about anything, mental health, sunscreen, whatever,
I just laugh my ass off when somebody's like, you guys giving medical advice or whatever.
Fuck no, we're not giving medical advice.
We don't know shit.
We're just telling you what we think.
And if you are listening to this, obviously you must know that.
And if you don't, well, then you shouldn't be watching anyway.
So this is not political advice.
However, I think the only way they can run Kamala.
And if I was Joe Biden...
I think the whiskey's fucking talking right now.
No, I'm telling you.
The only way that they can run Kamala is if Joe Biden dies.
Because then you make her candidacy a candidacy for him.
his legacy.
If he steps down...
That's fucking morbid as shit.
If he steps down, she has no credibility
and people are
going to be pissed. But if
that man dies, if that man dies
in office, you
prop her up as
she was the protege.
He poured everything
he knew into her.
He believed in her when nobody else did.
And you have to vote.
First black American woman
well first woman president first black woman president ever and if you care anything for joe
biden and the legacy of the amer of the democratic party you will vote for her it's the only way it works
it does or they kill trump or they kill trump or they kill trump or they kill both of them yeah i mean i don't
know but that oh man that's i don't i mean i don't think you're too far off i mean i don't know if
i don't know if i don't know if that'll happen but that's the only way you sell the legacy of that's
That's the only way she's got any firepower whatsoever.
You killed Kennedy in 63.
I know.
Well, this one wouldn't be as hard.
No, he could trip going off stage and having aneurysm.
He's out like that.
This is seriously, and I've said this every time we ever talked about it,
the people that are handling Joe Biden, that is elder abuse,
and every one of them should be prosecuted for it, including his wife, including Jill.
because what they've done to him is criminal. It's 100% criminal. My dad died when he's 99 years old.
I know what that looks like. And that, I mean, seriously, what they're doing to that man would be like me
taking my father and leaning by the hand and having him be the president of the United States.
He's not the president. He's asked, somebody is telling him what to say. And every decision he makes is because of the suggestion of somebody
else. It's not his, it's not his decision. It's whoever telling him what his decision should be.
That's the scariest part about him being the president.
And the only thing is scary, however, I will say, the only thing scarier than that man riding
this out to the end is putting Kamal in because her answer to everything is electric buses
with USB ports. She thinks that can solve all the world's problems.
That's her laugh. We have one more thing on the day. Yeah, we do. You, I,
I think you kind of hit that one out of the park.
I don't know if I really have much else to add to that besides.
I don't think it really matters.
I think Trump's still going to kick their ass.
So who's Trump?
Who's his pick?
Who's he going to fit?
For VP? Yep.
Is Vivek out of the question?
Is he just not?
No.
Anything's on the board.
With Trump?
I really don't.
I really don't know that either.
I like Tulsi Gabbard.
I think she'd be a great side.
by side with him to kind of appease to another demographic. And I think she's sharp as shit.
You could go Rubio, you could go Tim Scott, you could go Vivek. I really like Vivek. I think he could
relate to the younger crowd. I thought Vivek did a really great job campaigning, although the poll
numbers didn't reflect that because I think people were so loyal to Trump. But I think he had a great,
he had a lot of great things that he said when he was campaigning, a lot of comments. A lot of
common sense shit that seemed very like he could make a difference.
I think the Vake definitely would appeal to your generation.
I think he did.
Like when he was campaigning, I think he really did.
And yeah, when he dropped out, he endorsed Trump right away.
They had a rally.
I thought it went really well.
They kind of complimented each other extremely well.
There's no bad blood there like there is with DeSantis and Trump.
so I don't know
it would be interesting to see
definitely ain't going to pick Mike Pence again
but
yeah I would like to see Vivek
that would be my
hope I think would be that
and this is just me speculating
I don't
does Trump need anybody
does he need anybody
so in other words
to like prop him up
yeah is there anybody that he
I think
is there anybody he can pick that hurts him?
Well, that just depends on their ideologies and their,
and just their way of conducting policy and all that shit,
which I don't know enough of these people to know really where they stand on a whole lot.
Like, I know that there's conservatives, right?
But there's, I don't know everything that they think or every policy that they agree on
or don't agree on.
But what I would say, just based off pure demographics and just like,
I think Tulsi could help him just off pure optics.
Yep.
Just because she's a woman, she's not veteran.
Former Democrat.
Former Democrat.
Yeah, she's not super right, right?
That would have, like Joe Rogan, for example, that would, Joe Rogan would go,
he'd love that shit.
Yep.
He would love Tulsi Gabbardis.
And I would too.
I think she's great.
I think she has a lot of great ideas.
I mean, there's some shit she's, you know, left on, but there's some shit that
she's right on.
And I think that would appear.
appeal more to the masses and might appeal more to women too and she's also a minority i believe so
i think that would really help optics wise and vivac i think again did such a great job with the younger
demographic when he was campaigning that i think he would just help with bringing in the younger
generation even more so the safe bet and what i like about vivake too is he's not part you know he's
outside of the system. Yep. You know, this was his, true. Maybe you need a vice president that's been in
the system, but again, Trump's been in the system. Trump knows, Trump knows the game. So the person that he
picks for his VP, Trump is a lame duck president right off the get-go. He's only got one more term.
Yeah, okay. So that person instantly becomes, that's what lame duck means. Yeah. Okay. That person
is instantly
the most likely candidate
to run after he's going. After Trump.
So you got to think about that.
So Tulsi is an excellent pick
because then you're back to this.
Would she do it though?
Run for president.
We're forgetting about Carrie Lake now too.
No, she's not in it.
She loves fucking Trump.
I know she loves Trump, but she's too polarizing.
So the reason I think that...
She's kind of like a Sarah Palin a little bit.
bit. Yeah. She don't give a shit. The reason I think Tulsi's still in it is because if you watched
Bill Mowers, is that how you say it? Bill Mower. Bill Mower. Bill Mower. If you watched her on that,
she, she was awful easy on Trump. Like she, she did not, she was not nearly as critical of him as she
has been in the past. And that told me that she probably is in the, she's in the running so she's
trying to stay. Because he pushed her pretty hard and she didn't, she didn't take the bait.
Well, I think, yeah, I think it'd be, I think that'd be great. I would love to see that, actually.
The safe bet, though, is this senator from Ohio, J.D. Vance. And I don't know a lot about him,
but Ohio is a huge swing state, Midwest. And he's young. He's young. He's.
He's 30, 38, I think.
He's either 33 or 38.
I think he's 38.
So he's young.
And he's almost like, he's almost like a young Trump.
I mean, he's like, he's a hammer.
And then the other one they gave was this North Dakota governor, Doug Burham.
And I hope they don't pick that guy because he's just kind of a career politician.
He's kind of like, he's like a Mike Pence, but he's more better Mike Pence.
So my two things would be Tulsi or J.D. Vance.
Because I like the idea of getting somebody young.
Young blood in there.
Yep.
But I also believe at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter who he picks.
Because I think Trump's the guy.
Trump's the guy no matter what.
The people are going to vote for Trump, don't care who that.
person is.
Yeah, I think honestly his pick is only going to make his campaign stronger, but I don't
see it really getting weaker depending on.
Like, if he picks Tulsi, I think that could appeal to people.
Yep.
If he picks the North Dakota guy, nobody's really going to give a fuck.
Yeah, true.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't, if you pick somebody that you're like, whatever, nobody's really going to
care, they're still going to vote for him.
But if you pick the right person that might appeal to another group, they might go, well,
now I was on the fence about voting for Trump, but now that he picked Tulsi, I think I might.
Yeah. The other thing, so he was supposed to announce maybe this weekend or early next week,
but I think he's going to wait as long as he can going into the Democratic convention,
because whatever they do, that may determine who he ultimately picks.
because what you pick, who you pick for a vice president if it's Joe versus who you pick if it's Kamala.
Oh yeah.
So that's a point that they brought up.
I can't remember what I was listening to and they were talking about this.
So if they happen to pick Kamala, he totally would pick Tulsi Gabbard because do you remember the debate when they were running and she just tore her?
a dude ass. So if he, so the, the comparison was made that if they move, if they move Joe out and Kamala gets the
nomination, Trump would totally pick Tulsi. And then when, when Kamala wanted to debate, Trump would just say,
well, you're not good enough to debate me. Maybe you should debate Tulsi again. And if you can do
okay against her this time, then I'll debate you. But she tore you a new asshole last time. So,
Unless you do better than that, I'm not even going to debate.
And that's the kind of shit that he would totally do.
Yeah, he would.
He would put the Smackdown on.
So, I don't know.
Anyway, I think, yeah, he'll wait as long as he possibly can,
and he'll want to drop the hammer when the right time,
when it's the right time.
Yeah.
He's just going to let this shit show keep playing out, which I don't blame him.
Yeah.
By the day, Biden just keeps getting fed to the wolves.
Yeah.
By everybody.
They want them out.
I mean, that's, I, it seems to me that the, the, the, the machine wants Biden out now.
Everybody's screaming from the rooftops.
The cat is out of the bag.
The, the, the, even Jimmy Kimmel.
Yep.
Jimmy Kimmel's doing fucking skits on it now.
It's like, it's, yeah, right.
It's, I know, but it's almost like the, they have given access to open the floodgates to now bag on Biden after three, three and a half years.
So, floodgates have been open.
the machine, the system, the agenda has said, okay, you guys can now proceed with
cutting his head off.
Go ahead.
So it just makes you wonder, like, was this the plan all along?
Did they punt?
Did they call an audible?
See, that's the craziest part to me is when you watch this unfold, you would like,
are these people really this dumb that they didn't see this coming?
and this is their honest reaction.
No, they've seen it coming.
Or is this then orchestrated the whole time,
and now is the time we deploy all the...
Honest to God, I feel like your point about him going out,
dying and Kamala using it as a legacy ploy.
If that happens, that would make me feel like it was more thought out than what,
than them just going with the flow.
Because it just seems like, why would you do it right now?
Why would you start cutting, you know, like, I don't know.
I'm just going to tell you all right now.
If that comes to pass, I'm buying a lottery ticket every week because my luck.
Well, God, you know, we have been saying on this, I just want us to give us a little pat on the back a little bit.
We have been calling this shit out for like a long time now.
Probably too long.
A little bit.
People probably fed up with us talking shit about Biden and his crazy antics, but fuck.
It's proven out.
It's been proven out.
And when the whole COVID fiasco went down,
you know,
we were a little bit early on bagging on the whole COVID thing,
probably a little earlier than a lot of people were
about saying our two cents about that.
And that's coming out too, that that was a fucking sham.
Here's the deal.
People, we don't know a lot.
I'll tell you what, we're not experts,
but hey, we look around and we can think a little bit.
Common sense will get you long.
way. It will. And I will say this. They like to, they like to think we're, they like to think
Americans are dumber than, you know, they like to think we're fucking stupid. But hey, we,
if you pay attention, you can kind of see through, sift through that bullshit. The Midwest gets a bad
rap and farmers get a bad rap and, and working class people get a bad rap about, you know,
not being very bright. And that's probably true. And we don't claim, add that to the list of other
things we don't claim to be very bright. But when you go through life and you have to figure
shit out and you don't have anybody to figure it out for you and you don't have a huge cushion,
you have a tendency to be able to look at problems and go, well, that's fucked up or that's
fucked up. And, you know, this is what we have to do to get out of it. I mean, it's common sense.
and I feel like, and this is a broken record, but when you get within, when you get within the coast
and you get within people who don't actually do, don't build things, don't raise things,
don't actually create any value, they just expound ideas and they're running off of
trust fund money or whatever they're running on to where,
They don't really have skin in the game.
In other words, they're well enough healed that they could do whatever.
I just think people are, I just think people have FOMO.
They don't want to say they're right.
We've been indoctrinated and become politically correct to fit in with everybody else.
Indocination across the universities and the school system and everything like that.
And it's almost become like, we got two guys, two guys that moved from Nashville.
came here,
go to the gym that I go to,
that if you went to Nashville and said you voted for Trump,
you were,
they exclude you out of the friend group.
Like,
you're fucking exiled.
You're exiled.
Yep.
Like,
it's that fucking serious.
Like,
people will,
if you say,
oh,
I voted for Trump or I'm going to vote for Trump
in a major city like that,
that's completely gone crazy.
Yep.
They'll just fucking exile you.
And I mean,
I just feel like that's honestly what it is.
I feel like people just,
they take, they want to fit in.
They want to fit in.
They just take what every,
all the headlines that they read for its worth.
And, you know,
they just trust.
Ever since COVID,
that was the camel that boat,
that was the straw that broke the camels back for me.
That was a,
that whole fucking deal didn't sit right with me.
That whole fucking deal didn't look right to me.
And turns out it wasn't right.
No.
And the gun,
government fucking played us all. They played us all like a fiddle. And if you have any sense of trust in
the government after that whole deal and you just take everything at face value and take their word for it,
I mean, that's, I think you're crazy because that to me was just like the biggest wake up call
of they do not have our best interest in mind and they totally fucked us over on that deal.
They did not have our best interest in mind whatsoever.
No.
So it's enough to draw a man to drink or to drive a man to drink.
We're going to sample a bottle here.
One thing I'm going to tell you right now, the next episode we have very well might be another hot topics because one thing we didn't talk about tonight and tell me your thoughts on this, but I really want to dig into this.
there were three Supreme Court rulings last week, and one of them, I think, is one of the most
pivotal opinions that has come down out of the Supreme Court in a long time. And it was,
it was, they call it the Chevron decision. And what it means is, just in a nutshell,
that in the past, the court has put the burden of proof on,
the plaintiff as far as proving that what the government was doing, whatever agency,
let's just use the EPA as an example. So if the EPA made a, they made a rule,
then the court used the discretion that the EPA probably knew what they were talking about
and it was on the plaintiff, if they were suing the EPA,
to prove that their science or whoever they were using,
basically saying that they were the smart guys.
And they called that Chevron.
In other words, the burden was on the person coming against the rule,
not on the people defending the rule.
And they overturned that.
So in other words, now, if you were to sue the EPA over a mission,
on your Ford F-350.
The court could say to EPA,
where do you get the authority
to regulate this emissions equipment?
And the EPA would say,
oh, it's from the Clean Air Act of blah, blah, blah.
And they would say, okay, what part,
where in the Clean Air Act does it say
that diesel commercial or not commercial but consumer diesel engines need to have this.
Yeah, have this.
Yeah.
And EPA would say, well, it doesn't say that anywhere.
And the court would just say, you're fucking out of here.
Where in the past, they would say they wouldn't even hear that case because they would Chevron,
the Chevron deal would be that, well, EPA knows what they're doing and they know what,
they know how to interpret the law. So their question in the EPA. EPA, FBI, I mean, whatever,
whatever government agency you want, they've all had, it is the most quoted, most, um, whatever you want to say,
used
decision,
like it's been quoted
18,000 times
or since the decision
was made that basically
made that the standard.
Anyway, we're not going to talk about it today,
but basically it will be
an entire hot topics because
it is going to
it's going to affect
so many laws that are currently
on the books and it's going to affect
so many laws that are going to get written.
And
you know talking about that i'll hurt my brain so i really need i need some whiskey so what what do we
have you done yet i'm done i've been sitting here with this bottle just waiting yep so we got
limited edition makers mark profile number 46 cask strength yep kentucky straight bourbon
whiskey barrel finish with oak staves staves staves staves staves so one
slice out of a barrel is a stave.
55.15% alcohol.
Yep. Just enough to do
the job. Wax dipped.
Wax dipped. You got to pull the string on the side
of it. Where's the string? Right there.
It's that where that little... Oh, this thing? Yep.
Pull that. Holy shit. I've been messing around
with this bottle this whole time. Yep.
Nice.
Sawyer doesn't usually get an unopened
bottle. No, I haven't.
Listen to this shit. Oh, nice
pop. That's a satisfying. We're going to do her old
school today.
Woo!
Yeah, we're going to pull that shit because we don't have any classes.
We forgot to break show prep.
It's all about show prep.
Well, we just don't have that assistant yet, so it's sometimes the prep just doesn't
get done the way we should have gotten out of it.
So we're just going to go old school.
We're going to take a...
Round the campfire.
Yep.
All right, I'm going to throw it back and I won't say anything until you pull.
Pull it.
Well, everybody's going to be able to read your face.
So should I keep talking?
I'll try to, I'll try. Yeah, you keep talking. I'm going to pull it. All right. So, uh, whiskey prices for the
high dollar bottle seem to be moving, uh, down a little bit. I think the, the rush over the,
over the COVID really brought, you know, whiskey to the forefront and prices just got stupid.
That's great. Now, you just go ahead and pull that and I'll, I'll take over from here.
All right. Do you leave me, any? It's, oh, yeah, I left you plenty. There's plenty of
to go around. Oh, you had a little bit, you had a little bit of a face there too. Yeah. It's sweet, though. It's got a sweet, it's got a sweet taste. But yeah, it's a, it's a, it's got a little burn to it. It's got a little burn to it. It's got a little bit familiar with makers mark. I am too. I think you got to have an ice cube with it. That would really help it. And it's a little warm in the barn. It is a warm bottle. That bottle is probably about 80 degrees. Yeah. We haven't had the air oven very much. But,
You know, it's pretty good, though.
I've always liked makers.
Makers is kind of a standard, I think, for most people.
Like, a little place we go in town in Washington, I'll get an old fashion.
They usually use makers.
When I'm mixing at home, I'll use makers a lot.
Makers, Four Roses, those two, I go back and forth between them quite a bit.
I've actually had this bottle a long time.
This is probably my second or third bottle of makers mark 46.
And I would say, other than from standard makers,
that is a little, I guess I don't know if it's a little sweeter,
but it finishes sweeter.
It had a sweeter.
I feel like it was sweeter.
Than the regular makers.
Yeah.
I feel like it was sweeter, which I liked the flavor a lot.
It just was, it had a pretty quick burn to it.
But yeah, again, that could have been, one, we pulled it straight from the bottle.
Two, it's 80 degrees in here, and we didn't have glasses with some ice in it.
I think if we had some glasses with some ice in it, it probably tastes a little better.
Well, we didn't let it.
We didn't let it breathe very while.
No, we were kind of rookies.
Again, back to the prep.
We popped it and dropped it.
So what do you rate it?
Makers?
I don't know.
I'd rate it.
probably, I'd probably rate that.
I would probably rate it six, six and a half out of ten.
I was going to say seven.
And I probably would call it seven.
And that's just because it's kind of like,
it's a familiar friend of mine.
I use it quite a bit.
Yeah.
And so it's good.
You know, I wish I had more time.
I'd recommend it.
I'd recommend it.
I think if we gave it a better fair trial,
we might have,
those numbers would have been raised a little bit on the
rating but yeah and you know what it all really comes down to where you are in this country as far as
what you can get for whiskey and i was not a great state to get uh to get allocated whiskey um and if i
was starting a home bar that it would be one of my bottles that i would get uh whether it's 46
or whether it's just regular maker's mark i mean if you were starting and you were going to go
buy five bottles of whiskey. I would probably get
four roses. I would get makers.
Knob Creek. Yeah. I like some Knob Creek. I like
Knob Creek. That's a little sweeter.
Elijah Craig?
Yeah. Knob Creek or
Elijah Craig or both. If you can find a bottle of
what the hell is that? I just got it.
Oh, Wild Turkey 101. Wild Turkey 101. Wild Turkey 101.
one is great.
I like some whistle pig, too.
Yeah, but I only like the older.
I know, I'm naming off a bunch of generic ones, but the older stuff.
You don't give me any of the good shit.
Well, no, because you drink it all too fast.
Oh, Russell's.
You can get a bottle of Russell Reserve 10-year.
That's pretty good.
I think that's like five bottles.
Those are five good bottles of whiskey right there.
And I threw in a bunch of ones, too, so that was probably more like 10, but
because I was throwing out suggestions
while you were thinking.
There was a long time.
There was a long time in there where
Crown Royal.
Crown Royal would have been in there.
Buffalo Trace.
Well, Buffalo Trace.
That's pretty good too.
I would have Buffalo Trace in there.
It's so hard.
There's a lot of great options.
We are filling up the shelves over here.
Yep.
We always love when people send us bottles.
Smoke wagon.
I like smoke wagon.
We got a bunch of people that have sent us bottles,
which is great.
That's helped us fill up the shelves even more.
But we're hoping we could take it all the way to the ceiling.
Yeah, and then if you move, you know, you move up what you want to spend.
I mean, like Eagle Rare, great bottle.
Blanton's. A lot of people think Blanton's overrated.
It probably is overrated.
I wouldn't overpay for a bottle of Blantons, but it's damn good whiskey.
I don't know.
What else?
Weller.
You're telling everybody what we're going to be drinking, so you better just shut up on future whiskey minutes.
Oh, well, it doesn't matter.
we'll always find something new yeah okay well i think that's going to wrap it up i think i got all my words
out i think i did too and that wasn't too i hope that wasn't too abrasive for you no no well you know
what i've come to realize we just aren't going to please everybody and that's okay yep you know what
we're not for everybody and we don't we're not trying to be for everybody and once again do your
own research if you listen to this and it pissed you off go figure out why it pissed you
you off. If you thought, yeah, those guys are 100% right, you're probably wrong. You need to go do
your own research. I think you got to give yourself a little more credit. Well, I know, but
everybody's got to think for themselves. Like, you got to stay hungry. You have to be hungry
to find your own truce. Yep. I agree with that. I agree with that. You do. A thousand percent.
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