Barn Talk - Hot Topics: Navigating Farm Financials: Goals and Strategies for Success

Episode Date: January 19, 2025

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November wasn't too bad. But it seems like the last two years, winter comes late. We get hammered. And we get hammered in January, February, and even a little bit in March. And, man, the temperatures are dropping. We dodged a bullet because the snowstorm that we would have gotten last year hit Kansas City. Yeah. It's dead.

Thanks the Lord. We would have been clearing out the farm for days. Had to put the dozer blade on. Yeah. But so far, so good. I don't know. We'll see. I bet you we don't make it through unscathed,

and we probably need some snow anyway, but, man, I don't know. Winter anymore just looks like work to me, so I'm just not that fired up about it. We just got full of pigs. Two of our sites were empty, so three of our four barns were empty, right there up to Christmas, and we started filling both sites the week of Christmas.

And my last site still needs one more load of pigs to finish it out. But I feel like you kind of get screwed on that every time, too. You are always burning LP. Yeah. Every time you get new pigs. But I did better. I mean, we really lucked out because when it was empty there, you know, it was pretty much hanging out right about freezing 40 degrees during the day.

Not a lot of wind. I got a neighbor, so Andy's Barnes. I think he's emptying out like this week. So he's going to be empty, and it's supposed to be like, what, seven? Seven degrees the next couple days, four below at night, and he's going to have all those barns empty. No, Bueno. So what?

When you're washing, you got to turn the heaters on or what? Well, yeah, you got to run the heat. You got to run the heat to power wash. So keep it you better try to keep it 45 or 50 because otherwise if you don't it'll steam up so bad you can't see what you're doing And then once you get it empty you got to run some heat and some fans to get it dried out and you don't want the water lines to freeze Yep and then you got to heat it up because Once those slats I mean it's it's kind of a six one half a dozen the other you can let it go pretty cold like you can set it down 40 degrees if you want But when you go to heat that up for pigs, you got to get all that concrete warmed up,

and it's just going to take that much more heat to get the building warm. I mean, you'll get it up to temperature, but then it'll just constantly drop to you get that heat to get that concrete heated up. And then, you know, once you start putting pigs in it, 15-pound, 20-pound wiener pigs, they don't put out that much heat. I'm glad that we're overstock. That helps. but yeah it's not it's not ideal but you know you get a free one in the summer you know when

you're doing wiener pigs you're going to fill every six months give or take a few weeks and so the later you fill into the winter the one you get in the summer you just got to look at that because you're not going to burn any gas then it's going to be hot so um take what you get i can tell you that i'm thankful we have the two barns that are double-sided i wish i had them all We have two barns that are what we call solid-sided, straight tunnel, and then we got two barns that are the traditional double-curtain barns. And weather like this, I'd take those solid-sided barns any day because they hold the heat, they heat up faster, no drafts,

the pigs lay out nicer, way better. So anyway, market update, though? Market update, I mean, I don't know. You got one goal this year you want to achieve since it's the new year? I think we'll get into that, but I don't know. I have, I think I have two main goals, the two biggest goals, the two biggest wins for this Lue Farm this summer, as far as I'm concerned is one,

get in control of my financials as far as become a much better student of my numbers and know my numbers and really dial that in because I don't feel like I do a very good job of that. And two, getter LW system built. Nice. Be separating manure. I like those goals. Those are the two. I like about you, Mr. Farmer grade.

I would say get to the point where I'm not working in the business constantly all the time. So hiring some stuff out, whether that's here. on barn talk, whether that's this will do farm, whether that's farmer grade, just buy some time back so I can focus on more important things or just needle movers, you know, that can push the needle forward. And then I told myself, I don't feel like, oh, this is kind of funny, because on this podcast, we always talk about how we don't have hobbies. But I feel like I should learn, I need to have an outlet a little bit more, and I probably should learn a hobby. So I have a goal to learn a hobby outside of work, whether that's shooting a bow at a target or shooting handguns or just shooting guns in general or, I don't know, skiing, something that I can just shut my mind off and just hang out and chill.

I kind of like to watch you ski. Yeah. You wouldn't like, I don't know. I don't know about that one. This nearest ski resort is quite a ways away. So I, that one's, I see all these snowboarding videos on TikTok and they just look badass, but I don't think I'll ever get there. So it might just be something simple, but gosh, hobbies cost a lot of money. They do.

It doesn't matter which one you pick. They do cost a lot. I, on that, on that genre, pretty much all of my, all of our couple friends have embraced the side-by-side world. So pretty much every one of them now have bought some form of a side-by-side, whether it be a ranger or a general or a can-am-this or whatever. And they all like to take leisurely trail rides in the summer. And so the pressure is on because they all think that we need to get one. And that's an expensive, that's an expensive hobby. However, I will say this.

the number of people because of COVID that all bought side by sides and then realize they don't have time to use them that are for sale. Facebook marketplace is a wash in side by sides. And it's just interesting because to see the price that they're listed at and then watch the price just drop over time as they don't get anybody to buy them. So there's a big discrepancy between the guy that wants to sell a side by side versus what somebody wants to pay for a side by side. And it's fun to watch those numbers. But I can tell you that if you're somebody and you put it on at a competitive price, that some bitch is gone. Like gone fast. So I don't know whether I'll get down on that or not, but that's something that I guess we're working towards.

I dabble in that too. I always love fucking shit up on an 18. TV. Can't beat that. That's always fun. But I don't know if I'm quiet at the tax bracket yet to swing that one. The best way to do that is to market your product at a profitable rate. So I'm going to give you the market update. Today's market update is a happy one because the markets are up. Any of you that are in the know, know that on Friday, the U.S. came out with their ending stock and their ending yield reports. And a lot of people are calling this too little too late because USDA has overstated how big our

yield was going to be, how big our acres were going to be, and what the ending stocks were going to be clear back when this crop was planted. When this corn crop was planted in 24, I mean it was going to just be massive. It was going to be like, I don't even remember what the acreage number was, but the yield was crazy. And then we got to harvest. It turned off dry. The end of the year turned off dry. And a lot of people were like, the yields weren't what they thought they were going to be. Now, don't get me wrong. There was some pretty crazy yields out there. But it wasn't what everybody thought. And then in, was it November? They dropped it. And now then, a lot of people thought that the corn yield number was going to be like 183.1, and they dropped it to 179.3. And they thought the bean yield was going to be 51.7, and it ended up being 50.7.

And they took like 25 billion bushels from the ending stocks on corn. So the ending stocks for corn came out at 1.5 billion. and it was 1.74 billion, and beans, it went from 47 to 38. Anyway, all, you know, I'm not going to bore you with all of it, but basically they admitted that they screwed up. USDA screwed up, and that's not a surprise to anybody. But the response to that was that on Friday, corn was up hard, beans were up too.

They were up pretty good too. today, I think corn closed up four or five cents. Beans closed up 21 cents. So wheat did not partake in any of this. Wheat was the loser out of it because the numbers didn't change that much on wheat. But anyway, March corn closed day at 476. And the cash bids didn't come out. So basically, I just added what it went up to that bid. And these, could change depending on whether or not people widen out their basis because they did widen their basis a little bit from Friday but the best local bid I could find was 442 and then the high bid was 452 in Burlington at ADM and then January beans closed 1041 Burlington had 1020 and Quincy had 1048.

Now those bids there are probably the ones that most likely they will not, the bean mark was up 21 cents and I'd be very surprised whether they actually go up that or if they don't widen out their base of them. So those numbers may not be what it is when they close today. Bean meal for January, $300 a ton. Wheat for March, $5.45. Hogs for February, $8325. And I didn't put this number in there, but the price for weiner pigs and feeder pigs are just, it's like a rocket. I mean, it's like, uh, feeder pigs are probably like 80 bucks and weiner pigs. I don't know if they're $50 or not, but I'm sure they're 40. So that tells you that a lot of people are figuring that come summer, there's not going to be very many hogs out there. So, um, those numbers were up. Uh, February cattle, 19740, feeder cattle for January,

271 crude oil 78 bucks uh bitcoin dropped a little bit 92,000 but it's floating right in there in the 90s when I was down in Kansas City it was back up it had been back up to a hundred and it backed off a little bit again Tesla 390 393 and gold 2677 if you aren't in the gold market I don't think I'd be getting in now because I think this is pretty close to all-time high definitely a high in the last couple years. So if I've got gold, I keep it, but I sure as hell wouldn't buy anymore now. Silver 2696. You need a drink after that? We should do the whiskey minute now. So I don't know. It's going to be interesting to see how much this corn market can run. If exports stay at the pace they're at, I think corn could move. I think you could see March corn get to

$5. This is not investment advice. Do we still have that? We got that disclaimer in every single episode. That's good because if you're looking to me for what you should do, you need to go look someplace else. But a lot of people are talking like if we can keep the exports going and the dollar doesn't get too far out of whack, you could see $5 corn for March. And if you're like me, I've got some corn left. I haven't marketed at all. I just sold a little today. I'm just going to keep trickling it out as this thing moves up,

and I'll save that one load until the bitter end so that if it really hits, I can tell everybody that that's what I sold it all for. That's the farmer way. But I think a lot more upside for corn than beans. I think beans are somewhat limited because there's a big crop coming out of South America, and, hey, thanks for sticking with us.

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Don't wait any longer. Visit iwarkorn.org slash join to become ICGA member today. Now let's get back to it. Are you feeling a little more optimistic now? with the year how it's kind of played out because there was a little doom and gloom in the beginning just with input costs being where they were

and you know markets being where they were and maybe I here's what I this is what I'm really hoping for I'm hoping that we rally up here

well so first of all I have no faith in the bean market because I'm not planting any beans this year I made the decision I was going to plant all corn on corn. And I think a lot of people, well, I know, because I just talked to my chemical guy a day before yesterday, and he told me that he's got more corn acres this year than he's had any time he can remember. So there's a lot of guys out there that are doing the exact same thing I am, which makes

you think, well, that's not very bright. but the truth is there is not a lot of upside out there in that bean market. Right now there's a little bit because we don't have as many beans as what we thought, but South America is going to raise a big crop, and the dollar is strong, and it really puts us at a disadvantage once they get to where they have beans. I don't know. I don't think we're at a very, I don't think we're a real competitive place. in the world when it comes to beans specifically, but like seed oil in general, bean oil, I don't know.

And bean meal, I don't know. And the other thing that's going to play into that is this cattle market, I just had a guy I was talking to today. I mean, we're getting to the point on cattle where if we may get to the point come harvest that if South American beans are are cheap enough or at a competitive number, we might be importing soybeans from South America to feed livestock here because the margins on cattle, if feed costs work up, people are going to be looking to save a dollar anywhere they can. I don't know, but I don't have a lot of faith in soybeans, but But corn, corn I do, I think there's more upside for corn, and I think we might have an opportunity to market new crop at a better price than what we sold last year.

So if I can get a decent amount of my corn marketed at a more profitable level than where I was last year, I think that'll be a win. One day, you're negotiating with suppliers. The next, you're installing a shelf in the back room. Running a business means moving in many directions all the time. TD's new small business banking accounts are built for how your business moves. It's how we're making banking more human. That was good.

That was a fire. I'm just, I'm just here. Speaking of fire. All of knowledge there. I just shut up and listen. Is your vacation house on fire? If I were to have a vacation house, it sure as fuck would not be in California. I'll tell you that.

Yeah, California fires, New Orleans terrorist attack, Las Vegas, cyber truck blowing up. The hits just keep coming. But the question is, are we going to make it to inauguration day on the 20th? Yeah, so what do we got today? The 13th? I think today's the 13th that we're shooting here. So we got seven days. Seven days a week.

I don't know. Can old Krusty, can he do any more damage between now and then? I mean, I'm more, and hey, this is just, we're just being kind of funny. right now. Obviously, that's not, none of that, not all that has to do with government or the left or any of that shit. I mean, California fires, I don't know, I don't know, must have been too dry over there or somebody did something. I haven't really looked into it all too much. All I know is destruction's bad. Prayers out to all the people that are affected by that. It's a bad deal over there. And it just, I mean, it just keeps going. That fire just keeps on going. They can't, they can't

ahead of it can't control it new Orleans that was tragic as hell um yeah it's i don't know to me i am i said this when everybody was pouring into this country from the southern border you couldn't pay me to go to a city right now a big city a big city yeah i mean you just couldn't pay me i won't want to take the risk you can call me crazy but with just the sheer amount of people that we don't know that walked across the border that we don't know what their intentions are. We don't know who they are as people. I just, I don't, I don't trust going to big places or big events. I, I just feel like this shit is brewing.

And we've been saying it since last year. You know, when, when we knew how bad the border was, border was. I mean, some shit's going to go down. I mean, shit's already going down, but more stuff's going down. and I just would be very cautious and weary. I mean, that's just me. And I've talked to my friends. They're in the same boat.

I mean, people that I talk to that, you know, we bring this kind of stuff up, they all think it. I mean, I'm not saying don't go have fun, but at the same time, be very cautious because I just, this kind of stuff I don't think is going to, stop from happening. I mean, like I said, the California fires, that's one thing. But the New Orleans event, the Las Vegas event, those attacks, that kind of stuff, I feel like that's going to continue. Yeah. If you really want to, you know, if you really want to scare yourself, Sean Ryan,

Sean Ryan has a podcast. Highly recommend it. He has some pretty, he's, he's got some pretty strange people he gets on there but uh what is that woman's name sarah i can't remember her last name she's the one from the cia yeah she's been on there a couple of times uh if you go to his if you go to a show you can find her uh sarah's her first name can't remember what her last name is um but she's written a book about um basically the failure in bengazi but she also writes i think she writes Sean's newsletter for him about kind of what's going on in the world. Well, she was the one that broke the story about how we were given money to Taliban. Taliban. But Taliban families, terrorist organizations' families that we killed their son or

their father or whatever, we were giving them money because we had done damage to their family, but we weren't given our own veterans money. Like, she broke, she brought that story onto the show, which is absolutely insane. So your tax dollars are going. to pay for, yeah, Taliban. Well, and it goes way deeper than that. When she was on there, last time she was talking about how we're giving money, you know, everybody knows about the money that we're still sending over there

that we can't seem to get stopped. But then there's all this money that we're given to the UN, and then the UN is doling it out for refugees, and I use that in air quotes. and she made the case that one of the guys, I think it's, I think it's Osama bin Laden's younger son. So his oldest son that the U.S. claimed was dead is very much alive, and he has assumed the role of running the operation, and every other intelligence agency in the world has accepted that, for the CIA. They don't want to talk about it because they won't admit that that's true.

But I think it's pretty, she makes a pretty compelling case that it's true. But his brother is kind of like his number two. And he is getting money from the UN basically to sponsor terrorist training camps because he has done a good job of doing promotional videos where he shows these camps and they round up all these women and children and put them in there and make it look like that it is a it is a a camp for refugees when in fact it's it's a training camp for Taliban fighters and for terrorists anyway to go down that long rabbit hole if you'd like to be scared to death about the possibility of what could happen in this country with the number of people that have made it in here that we just plane don't know about. She is a good, there's two episodes with her on it and she makes some very good,

very good points about that. And yeah, it doesn't make me want to go to any large city, but especially a liberal-controlled city where they've pretty much gutted out all of your social services, like your police, your fire, your city services of all kinds. Yeah, not on my list of places. I want to go. Yeah, no. And he also had a really good episode. I didn't end up watching it, but I saw a bunch of people talking about it where didn't he have a guy that leaked the letter, the manifesto of the guy that blew up in the cyber truck that blew up in Las Vegas at the Trump. Was it the hotel? The Trump Tower. Yeah. And I mean, do your own looking into that because that's awfully fishy. I don't know. I think, as time goes on and the more that fishy stuff happens and gets tied back to these three-letter

agencies, the more you just don't trust them. I mean, I think they do some good in this world, but they do a lot of corrupt shit too. They do. They do to a lot of corrupt stuff. The thing is, I think maybe we'll talk about this a little more because it's kind of on my list of stuff that I think is a trend in 25. But I think I said this to you. One of the things that we talked about, I think this was last year, when you were in the beginning of Farmer Grade,

we talked about how a lot of people have this idea that CEOs and people that run Fortune 500 companies somehow are just smarter than everybody else. and we kind of put them up on a pedestal that, you know, they really know what's going on. And, you know, they can somehow they just are smarter than everybody. And then when something happens, we find out that they're no better, like they have all the same flaws that we all have. And I think it was probably one of the things that I used an example was how poor, how poor a leader Mary Barr is. that I really like to bag on her at General Motors

because I think she's arguably the worst Fortune 500 company CEO out there, but anyway, I think the other one was Budweiser. Oh, yeah, I think that's right. I think it was the Budweiser thing was the blatantly obvious, like that probably wasn't going to hit with your demographic people.

Yeah. But they still did it. And that might not fall on the CEO, but... Well, ultimately, it does. The buck stops there. Right. But it's just like, yeah it's it doesn't matter if it's a three-letter agency or a company that you would expect to always have

every every person disposable to them every tool possible that they could use to to win and succeed or do the right thing yet they still make mistakes and yet there's still corruption in three-letter agencies because shit falls through human yeah they're all human and shit falls through the cracks and you get a couple bad eggs in there and stuff happens but all that to be said, the other thing that, you know, just makes me feel like stuff's going to get stirred up is Trump's, you know, Trump's going to be in office. And I still feel like they're going to make it, they're going to make it their job to make him busy and distracted on focusing on crises rather than getting stuff done. Because if he tries, if they just let him get stuff done, all the things that they have implemented or all the things they don't want him to touch, he's going to. He's going to. touch and he's going to fix. And so, uh, I, I think creating crises is on, I don't know, I wouldn't just say it's the Democrats, but, you know, if there's corrupt people inside agencies or, or, or in the, in the, you know, in the judicial part of America, judges, uh, attorneys, you know, we've already seen it. I mean, they've already tried taking a prison.

They already tried to assassinate him twice, not saying that's just on the left, but somebody's trying to kill him. Somebody's trying to put him in prison. Basically stop him. People are trying to stop him. And so, um, you know, I think that we're not done seeing that kind of stuff. But don't you feel like that Trumpy is kind of doing the same thing to them in the fact that I feel like he very well may be, the U.S. may be very interested in purchasing Greenland or making Greenland a state of the U.S. or making Canada a state of the U.S. or reowning the Panama Canal or renaming the Gulf of Mexico, the Gulf of America. But don't you feel like that that also is a little bit of a ploy of Trump that he's kind of creating his own crisis within

politics that all of these people are running around wondering, is he really trying to do that? holy shit, we got to stop that. And then on the backside, he's just like, and he's just using the confusion to make it easier to actually get done what he's trying to get done. I don't know whether that's true or not. That'd be methodical. That'd be using the left tactics.

I mean, I feel like they try to distract us. I don't know, but I feel like it may be that he's kind of creating all of this running up to inauguration. and then when inauguration comes, I think he may walk in the door and he may just drop, like he may just put the pedal to the metal, and all of that has kind of been smoke

to hide his real agenda, and he's just going to hit it with his foot to the floor. I don't know. Let us know what you think about that because I just, I wonder, I mean, maybe that's all legit. Maybe that's all things that he really does want to get done, and he feels like that's something that, you know, Americans can get behind.

But then at the same time, I think he's got a lot of stuff that is much more important to him that he's really going to work on. So I don't know. I think it also might just be we're seeking hope. We're seeking new, you know, and I think he's trying to give us ideas that we can think that are new and exciting that, you know, calling the, you know, American Canal. Yeah, that's, every American's like, fuck yeah. You know, like, we love that, you know, whatever. Just easy ideas we can kind of understand.

Rally around. You can rally around, yeah. Yeah, so it'll be interesting to see how that all plays out. Hopefully they put them in a glass box on the 20th. That'd probably be a good idea. Okay. But he probably won't because over under, over under, he gets put in a glass box. Do you think there's any chance? Well, I was actually going to say. Are they going to bet on that? Do you think there's a chance that he gets out of the limousine on the way from inauguration of the White House and walks down and shakes people's hands? I really hope not.

I hope he doesn't take that gamble, but, I mean, you got to, they are going to have, I hope they have it all on lockdown. I don't know. But having your life almost taken twice, I probably wouldn't take the risk. You might rent the Pote Mobile. He always looks at opportunities. you know, I think he, I think about it like a customer. When a customer has a support problem and they reach out to customer support,

it's your time to nail it out of the park. Because if you nail it out of the park, you go above and beyond, that customer's going to remember that and they're going to love that. I think Trump looks at opportunities like getting shot at as an opportunity to, well, it's just, if I walk down the street right now and I go shake hands with all these Americans after I've been tried to, I've been, had an assassination attempt on my life twice. That's just going to make my brand and me as a president look even more powerful. Yep. All they're going to see is my giant balls driving down the street.

Yeah, exactly. So I don't know. He's, he's pretty bold guy, so I wouldn't put it past him. Oh, man. I just, yep, I'm looking forward to it for sure. Me too. So, so, uh, you went to an event last week, FarmCon. I wasn't able to make it. Uh, because, somebody's got to do the work. Somebody's got to do something around here. So we kind of divided and conquered, but how was that experience and what did you learn and who'd you meet? Yeah. Did you, was it worth your trip? Yes. So yeah, FarmCon takes place. I didn't know this. I had no idea. I'd never been there. It's been going on, it's been going on for like 20 years, I think. and it's in Kansas City, Missouri.

They had it at the Lowe's Hotel. And I really wasn't expecting very much just because I felt like it was more like going to be more like a lot of trade shows I've been to. And I have to tell you that I was very impressed. It is always a great time when you can get together with people and at some point you're listening to the speakers that they provide and somebody says out loud the same thoughts that you've had in your head and you look around

and there's a good amount of the people there that are all kind of nod in their head and then you can say to yourself, well I'll be damned. I'm not crazy after all. And I think that is what I enjoyed the most. And I will give kudos to the Van Trump family, because that's who puts it on. Kevin Van Trump, and I honestly never met the guy until this, but he does a newsletter and he has a pretty good amount of people that subscribe. And I talk to a lot of people that have been coming to this thing for years. But every morning he would open up the day and just give his thoughts. And I really enjoyed that because, for one, the mood there was very positive. I think the majority of people there obviously probably leaned to the right,

and they were probably, I wouldn't say that pleased as much as relieved was the sediment towards Donald Trump being elected. A lot of people that I talked to were just relieved that that whole, the last four years is just about over and happy to, in their mind, get back on track. But the thing that I liked the most about it was just the honesty of the speakers, really just saying what they thought, why they thought it, and talking about their trades, talking about what they're invested in, what they're doing, and why they're doing it,

and their thought process. So like Kevin, for one example, he went through his portfolio as far as what he's invested in and then why he's invested in it and kind of what he's learned from making a lot of mistakes. as we talk about on here, you know, we've all learned a hell of a lot more from what we've done wrong than what we've done right. And, I mean, they gave some great examples of stuff that they bet on that they thought, yeah, this is a no-brainer. And it wasn't. And then stuff that they didn't do. Like one example was he was talking about when the housing crisis hit in 08, they were down in Florida.

and they were like, man, we should buy much of these fucking houses because this thing is going to come back and it's going to hammer. You know, we should just, we should get in on this. We should buy a bunch of real estate down here. And they didn't do it. And now they're like, shit, we should have done it. But it was just really refreshing for that and met some great people. And I'll just say, here is an example of something

that I just thought was hilarious was I was down there the first night got down late I didn't want to go out they had gotten the snowstorm and they were you know pretty well cleaned out of it but I didn't really want to go traipsing around to eat so I just I just sat and ate right there in the hotel bar and this family came in this husband and wife and two kids two two young men and their sons and I was just in an area by myself and I told him you're more than welcome to sit here because I'm just finishing up and we struck up a conversation and super nice people from Nebraska and they, you know, wanted to know what I did and I was talking about what they do. And I don't know, I'd probably talked to them for an hour. And the next morning I'd go down to breakfast and their daughter's there and they're like, and the father's like, oh yeah, here, let me introduce you to my daughter, Laura. Well, it was Laura from Laura Farms. And I thought to myself, I'm like, you're a pretty good sandbagger because, you know, a lot of people would have just led with, hey, do you know my daughter? Because pretty much in that, in our world, everybody does know her.

But just very humble people. And I really enjoyed our conversation, enjoyed meeting them. There was a lot of people there that, you know, for whatever reason, listen to the podcast. And I appreciate so much the feedback that we get because, you know, I. You know, when you're doing this, let's face it, a lot of the comments you get, you get a lot of good comments, but then you also get a heck of a lot of pretty nasty comments, which I try that, you know, that doesn't really bother me that much, but you always wonder whether what you're saying is relevant and whether you're giving value

or not, and we really try to be, the way I explained it to people that asked me about the podcast down there was, I always wanted to be. this podcast to be kind of the same setup as when I was a kid and I would go to town with my dad and we would go to the feed store or we would go to the welding shop or we'd go to the lumberyard and there would always be a group of guys in there. There'd always be a group of farmers and they would be having basically the conversation that Sawyer and I have with you guys and no bullshit you know, no worry about anybody's feelings, just this is what we think. And I always love that. And I learned a lot of colorful adjectives as a young man there. And, you know, a lot, just a lot of

things and some that I probably shouldn't have. But I told people, I'm like, that is kind of what I have always strived for is just to have honest conversations. And it's so, it's, it's incredibly rewarding when you get to talk to people that partake in that and that they feel like that it's valuable to them. So that was awesome. As far as takeaways I got from that, I think relevant for farmers, Brazil is getting steadily closer to the day that they're going to be able to export beans the year round. And when that happens, that is really going to put pressure on the U.S. That's one of the reasons that I'm not very positive for beans because I think we're going to be at a disadvantage. And one of the reasons for that is because the global, the world over is

not in very good shape. And as a result, even though our fiscal policy is trash, our don't dollars stays strong in compared to the rest of the world currencies, and that's hard on exports. But you have Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, that's bricks. They formed their own trading block, and they're not trading in U.S. dollars. And that is going to hurt us too because, as an example, there was a wheat sale I think from Russia into United Arab Emirates, I think

and that grain sale was not it was not recorded in U.S. dollars so there was no way to to know what the price what the price was

that was paid because there's no market reporting and that was just one sale. So that's one of the things they talked a lot about was bricks and what that's going to do to things. And then they also talked about how the consolidation in ag is just going to keep rolling because farmers are getting older. There is, it's a much more capital-intensive business.

Anybody out there that fails to diversify, I think one of the points that really was hit on down there that I picked up was if you are a strictly row crop guy or if you're if you're doing row crop and you're raising some cattle, that may not be enough unless you want to row crop a shitload of ground. And the number of people that want to do that, I don't know. And we're competing for assets. because land now is it's not a deal where it's farmers only looking to buy land. You're competing against such a, so much, such a larger group of investors that they are under the opinion that land's never going to really dip back down very much

because now it is a, now it's just another asset like owning a stock or owning a bond or owning in Bitcoin. Amazon presents Jeff versus Taco Truck Salsa, whether it's Verde, Roja, or the orange one. For Jeff, trying any salsa is like playing Russian roulette with a flamethrower. Luckily, Jeff saved with Amazon and stocked up on antacids, ginger tea, and milk.

Habaniero, more like habanier, yes. Save the everyday with Amazon. something else i think not to cut you off no you're good i feel like why other why so many people are investing in land and just assets across the board is the knowledge has become available to learn how to invest in any asset class and anybody that wants to find out how to invest can find the information to figure out how to invest i mean that's something that i don't think gets talked about enough either. I was just talking to a young gentleman that I saw over the weekend. It's a farmer. And I just asked him because he talked about how he acquired some ground. And, you know,

I'm always curious just how, how you go about doing that. You know, he brought some private ground. But, and I talked to him like, you know, how, what do you think? What do you think about auction versus versus buying it private? And how do you go about those kind of conversations? And he, he talked about how, I mean, our county is really, really, really competitive and there's a lot of money in this county because of the hog business. And so going to any auction, it's pretty hard to compete sometimes when you're, when you're out there trying to buy some ground and acquiring some makers when you're a younger guy. You know, he said it was kind of discouraged and, you know, he went to two auctions and it'd go over,

you know, 20,000, 21,000 and you're like, holy shit, like, that's insane. but going private definitely is the way to go and he just said it's just getting harder and harder and harder. So I mean, everybody I feel like feels it and I just thought that was pretty interesting. You think buying private's the way to go if you can find the ends to do it. And I think everybody would probably agree

that that's the way to go. But yeah, we talk about it all the time on here, guys. I think diversification and thinking about your operation more to like a family office, those kind of conversations. Like, I feel like that's, those are the kind of conversations that I gotta keep being had because just even, I just had the thought of like,

you know, even when you split off the farm into four ways and give, you know, give Sally a piece because she's the daughter and give Brad the piece because he's the son and then give Timmy the piece because he's given him the most because he's running the farm and then but even then like just splitting off ground to your inheritance to your kids that's like that's not going to be shit i mean that's not going to be that's going to be nothing um and that's going to fuck over the person that's running the farm because what he gets might not even be enough yeah if you piece out other pieces to

family members cash rent for everything else yeah I mean, you got to, I feel like you got to run the, you got to run the farm like a business. And the whole idea of this is mine and that's yours and this is Timmy's and this is Sally's and this is George's. Yeah, you can't do it anymore. It's like, like, I just think about that. I don't know why that's like that in farming, but you don't break up the small business like that. Yeah. When you have a construction business and you pass it on, you pass the whole business.

on. Yeah. You run the construction business, you pass the construction business on. With all the dump trucks, with all the workers, with everything, you pass all of it on and they run it like a business. In farming, why do we

why do we think we need to split it up? Split it all up. I just feel like that can't go on for much longer. Unless you, you're right, you have an ungodly amount of ground and it can work that way. but why pass the to me pass the whole business on to whoever wants to be involved and who doesn't

shouldn't get shit because it's a business at the end of the day one thing that was talked about down there i had a really good conversation with a couple guys from the banking world and um i was going to come back and try to find this statistic and i i forgot to do it but i would like to know and there may not be a way to know, but I would like to know on average, when a farm is sold, when a piece of farm ground is sold, and the errors get their money, I would like to know how long that chunk of money lasts. Because if I had to guess, it doesn't last very long.

Like, and that's, that's one of the greatest. That would be a good stat to know. Yeah, it would be because, and I don't know if there's a way to know it, but what I'm saying is, you know, that's the beauty of an asset like a farm is it's not as easy to sell. It's not as easy to liquidate. It's hard to pay for, but once you have it, it is such a store of value. And it's such a store of equity. that is not going to get pissed away if you do it right.

But as soon as you convert that to cash, that cash, it just starts getting burned. I mean, it just, and you can say that, oh, we're going to take it and we're going to invest it. I'd like to know how often that actually gets done and how often at the end of the day, a generation past, it's gone. Well, to me, any investor, any person that finds value is a, is smart enough to invest their money. It's smart enough to leave it and land. Exactly.

Yeah, right. If you're going to sell it, yeah. Yeah, I don't buy. You're going to invest it. You're going to go blow it is what you're going to do. Or you're going to go pay for your kids college, which is fine. Maybe you're investing it in other ways, but you're not going to. Yeah, you're never going to get it.

You're never going to actually grow it from what it was. I don't feel, that's my, I guess that's my point is I'd be surprised if you take what that value of that was when it was sold, you'll never again take that, take that wealth beyond what it was to start with. Yeah. Chances are it will just get riddle the way. It's the get rich thing. I mean, inheritance, it's a get, we're living this to society now where the get rich and flex on Instagram is appealing to a lot of people. Yeah. That's something though, I think that is a trend. I feel like it's a little bit of a trend and I think it's going to continue to grow is I believe there's more people your age and younger that are starting to come around to the fact that

living cheaply and having money saved is starting to get sexy. Yeah and I think that's probably I mean I don't know I guess I I think it's the knowledge gap thing I think there's I mean the people that I listen to, the people that I follow, I know for me, I'm listening to people telling me invest your money. I'm talking to listen to people to save your money, build businesses, buy assets. That's the kind of people I'm listening to. But I don't know if that's what, how widespread that is. Yeah, I don't know how widespread that is, but it's definitely more common than ever before, I think, among young people, because those kind of conversations are happening at a rate that have never been, never happened, you know? 10-4. You know what I mean?

Yep. That's right. But yeah, I think there's a lot of young driven people because of just, I think it's one, the knowledge out there, but two, what's given me the confidence or the willpower, I'd say, to go after and try to get what you want is because you see what's possible from so many different angles from so many different walks of life that when you can see what's possible and you can hear people's stories and you see well damn he didn't know you know like rob came on here and i always get people to say rob brunnaman's episode was kick ass like that was a great episode and people loved it so much because he came from nothing yeah i mean he built that he built

that from nothing and so like those stories are out there and they're inspiring and um it just shows you what truly is possible. One other thing going forward that was a popular theme, I feel like down there, was amongst the people that were not all the presenters, but quite a few of them. Bitcoin is definitely the acceptance and the growth of it used as, a store of value is very legitimate. And so a real highlight for me was one of the panels they had the last day, they had an investment panel, and they had Pompon there.

They had Anthony Pompeiano. If any of you know him, he's pretty, he's out there on X every day, every morning. I mean, he's kind of like Jock. Does he still have a podcast? Yeah, I think he still does his podcast. podcast. Yeah, he, I love Pomp. I've listened to Pomp for a long time, but yeah, he's real good. He's a Bitcoin Maximist. But his, you know, that's part of the reason he was on that group. They wanted his opinion about Bitcoin, and he was very positive about it. But what I like and what I like, people like him as a good example is they are true.

they're true to themselves and they're true to their own like doing their own research and one thing I'd tell you that I think that is totally 2025 is a year to totally trust your gut and not to trust the herd like when you feel like when you feel like everybody's kind of saying you know go this way go this way but you just are like that doesn't make sense. I think that you're probably on to something. And that was a theme, that was a theme through a lot of those guys is, you know, a lot of them success they've had in trades they've made or in businesses when it came to making decisions. So many times it came down to, even though it might not have been the popular opinion or a lot of people were telling them, oh, I don't know about that. I don't

think you should do that when they felt it in their and they felt it in their gut that they thought it was right or when everybody's telling you yeah do this yeah do this and they're like I don't know uh more times than not that was the right answer and um I think I think that Bitcoin is going to I think it's going to be a big year for it we may have a drawback uh right now but I think 10 years or now, if you're accumulating it, if you're dabbling in it, I don't see any scenario that 10 years down the road, you're not going to be, you're not going to be pleased that you, you've held on to it and maybe you add a little bit to what you're doing, or at least you got your, got your toe wet, because I think it's going to become, especially if this bricks thing keeps going and we have

competing currencies, because, if the dollar ever loses its hold on world markets, Bitcoin's going to go nuts. Because it's so much faster to trade and so much more honest. You know, you just know what's going on. And then the last thing I'll say about opinions down there is Tesla will achieve full self-driving in 25. A lot of people think they're going to be able to achieve it in the next three months. And if you are a, if you're a Waymo person or you're an Uber person or you're any of these ride hailing services, shit in your pants. Yeah, get ready. Because when Tesla can prove that out, you're, there are, who cares how many damn cyber trucks they sell? The automotive business is going to be

such a small percentage of their profit. Their money is going to be made in software because they're going to license it to everybody and in right hailing. And they will put, I mean, I don't know. I don't know how fast Uber can adapt, but I think they're going to make it tough sledding on right hailing businesses. So those are kind of my takeaways from down there. Anybody talk about the stock market at all? Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like we never talk about the stock market with just like we talk about Bitcoin and how bullish we are on that. And like, yeah, if the dollar falls, like the stock market, not going to be good. But, and the inflation that's happened with the dollar also has inflated the stock market. So, you know, you have catch 22 there. But I, I still think,

you know, I don't want everybody to always think that we're just all about the extreme shit. Like, I feel like Bitcoin definitely should be in your portfolio a little bit. But also, like index funds aren't a bad thing either. You know, a 10 to 12% guarantee you're on your return. That's not a bad thing. So I definitely dabble in index funds. That's something that I invest in every single month. And so that was talked about down there.

And one of the points they made was, you know, we saw a huge run in the stock market because you had all these baby boomers. which was the biggest generation we'd had, as they got to the point in their life in their 40s and 50s, they started investing. And that money went in the stock market because they were, traditionally it had all been in houses because that was the generation that you get married,

you get a job, get a job, get married, have kids, buy a house, you know, and all that. Well, several people spoke to the fact that, because the question was asked, are we at the top of the bubble when it comes to the stock market? And the opinion really, the opinion that I took away from it was that no or really not, and the reason is because this Gen Z and the generation after, they don't see the value of homeownership.

They see the value of experiences over, home ownership. So they probably are going to go a lot longer before they put a sizable about of money into buying real estate. But they are 100% the generation that sees the value of investing. And they see it way earlier than their parents and grandparents. And this generation that's coming up is the biggest one we've had since the baby boomers. And those guys all think that that money is going to go on the stock market. And if that money's going to the stock market, it, all it can do is go up because now it's not going to, I mean, obviously there's going to be a correction. Well, there always is. There always is. But if you do it over a 50 year, 60 years,

70 year period. The look, the liquidity, the amount of money that's being, that will keep coming to the stock market, it will push that market higher because you just have. You just have. The amount of money that's being, that will keep coming to the stock market. it will push that market higher because you just have, there is not going to be the money leaving the market to go into real estate like there was, or kept out of the market, I should say, because like the baby boomers, they were much later coming to the stock market because they all build houses, bought houses first. This younger generation, they will put money into the stock market before they put in real estate. So it bodes well for stocks over real estate. So buy some index funds if you're young.

Yeah. Right. I mean, at least being the S&P, just put a little bit in there every month. Yeah. Not investment advice. I'm just telling you what. I mean, fucking listen to any financial mind of the world and they want to say, what's the best thing I can do with somebody that I don't want to pick and choose stocks,

but I want to grow my portfolio and grow my wealth. They'll tell you, buy the S&P 500, put money in the S&P. P 500 every single month and just do that until you die and you will have a sizable amount of money by the time you retire or if you don't want to retire you just want to keep working you're going to have a shitload of money. Depending on how much you continue to put in there. But when you're young, compounding is your biggest asset. I mean, you got compound interest up the mofo.

So just do it. Do it. Okay. the last thing that I'll say I think you've said that three times ago yeah maybe well I guess that's kind of the end of FarmCon

well worth I would go back I think I probably will go back next year it was I really felt like it got value you're selling me maybe I should get out of my my cave and Herbert Outell well I did I actually call

you, I called you during one of the, one of the breakout sessions and just said, This is fucking awesome. I said, you should be here because there was a lot of, I mean, a lot of younger farmers there, a lot of people your age that have your kind of vision. And the speakers, I felt like really spoke to, you know, that, that group. I mean, for, you know, I don't, I don't feel like I probably think like a lot of people my age. I'm immature in that way, maybe, or maybe you and your brother keep me young. know which but anyway i loved it but um i i know that you would um well i might go next year then

yeah there you go there you go yeah so uh we were talking about change is constant what are we change in in 25 i feel like we kind of already talked about that a little bit yeah i guess what what do you want to say about what i want to change gosh you know the amount of podcasts out there of people cussing i feel like it's just kind of one of those things that people just cuss on podcast, you know. But you would be so surprised at how much hate we get about specifically me, about how much I cuss. So what I would do is I will lessen.

I will less, I will cuss less. How about that? But I am not going to stop cussing. You ask anybody that's ever known me, this is how I've talked my entire life. My mom has always hated how I've talked. and when I get passionate and when I get excited, I start throwing around some cusswords a little bit, okay?

So that's just who I am. Love me or hate me. I don't care. That's just who I am. But I will try because the thing that does bug me that makes me go, yeah, I probably should tone it down a little bit, is when people say, well, I don't want my kids to listen to it. I'm not going to let my kids listen to it when you're going on a tirade.

okay that makes me feel like all right maybe i should cut it down a little bit so i will cut it down a little bit we will cut it down a little bit we'll try to keep it a little more pg but we're going to say fuck a couple times i mean we're probably going to keep saying it a little bit so just know hey jimmy when you tell your kid you're listening to barn talk might be a few words that you don't want to repeat it when you're around your mom okay just keep that in mind and be real they're going to hear it on social media and they're hearing it on the playground whether you know it or not i'm just going to tell you if your poor kid rides the school bus yeah oh my gosh especially nowadays these kids gosh they know porn hub at nine i didn't know porn hub till at least i don't know when i knew it

but not nine i mean if you go on the bus these kids know shit that they're not supposed to know so anyway that's probably something that i will work to change i'll work to to get smarter with my vocab and stop throwing around cuss words as much, but do not expect it to be a clean slate, never going to cuss, okay? We're just, we're not very vanilla people. And when we get passionate, um, and we're farmers, okay? I mean, this is how we grew up.

I mean, we grew up in this, in this area. It's not a, you know, it's not an excuse. I, I really struggled to get, I really struggled to get the, the, uh, I really struggled. to get the severity or the intensity of the feeling that I'm trying to explain to somebody without swearing. It's just, it's, people know that I'm serious. People know that I'm serious by, by the language I use, I guess I would say. So anyway. And people also know that you're real when you say cuss words.

And I mean, that's, yeah, I mean, it's not, yeah, it's not, uh, it's not for a fact. it's really not for effect it's really just that's how i truly feel and um you know i sometimes can't get my get the weight of my argument across with you know holy nuts that's that's really you know i'm serious about this so anyway but we'll all try to do better yeah that's the one thing i'm gonna try to change yeah uh we are we are gonna try to do we're gonna try to do we're gonna try to actually do some construction this week. We're going to try to pour some footings on the barn for our manure separator.

I have no idea how that's going to go. We're lucky in the fact that we've actually got to cut it in a little bit instead of build it up. And so I think we can get the frost out and get down to where we can get our to get our footings in. I don't know. We'll see.

We're going to give it. It's supposed to have two or three days when it's in the 40s here and we're going to cover it and blanket it and all that. and give it the good old college try. We're going to give it the college try because we all really want in the worst way to be separating manure coming into spring. It's been a long time coming. Upcoming podcast will have the founder and CEO of livestock, water, and energy, and we're going to go through the whole process and explain it to you. And I'm really excited about that. We are going to also, we say this every time we bring up this project, but this all will be done. documented on our This'll Do Farm YouTube channel. So we, if you didn't know this, we have another form of media of YouTube. This will do farm where we just show what we do on the farm.

And this is going to be probably the biggest project and most important project of 2025. And we're going to show every step of it. The ups and downs, you know, all of it. We're going to be just like we are on here. We're going to keep it as real as possible. So if you want to watch it all, you want to see it working, you want to see how we get it up and do it all, it's all going to be on there. So if you want to see that journey, subscribe to that, check it out. That's where you can see it. This will do is a lot shorter for. Most of our videos on there are 15 minutes. Yeah, something like that. So it's pretty easy, palable, pretty quick. It's more for the squirrels because we're all kind of squirrels. You know, barn talk is for, you know, you got to be ready to consume some information. Yeah. The last thing I'll say is we, we talked about how I'm really trying hard to get control of the financial side of my business and get better at it. We made the decision. We had Jace Young on here who owns a company called Legacy

Farmer, and I'm starting that program. So my onboarding call is tomorrow, and we're going to use the software. We're going to use the community. I'm going to use the code. I'm going to use the coaching because I want to get to the end of 25 and really feel like that I've got kind of the bull by the horn instead of the bull having me. And so I just wanted to throw that out there that any of you that are on, on his program, on Legacy Farmer, you'll be seeing me. I apologize in advance because I'm probably going to need a lot of, going to need a lot of questions answered. So, but I'll, I'll keep you up to date on how it goes. So, I don't know.

Hurrah. That's it. Super Bowl prediction. I think the Lions, oh gosh, I don't know, man. It's a, I don't know. The Lions look pretty unstoppable to me. They look pretty, pretty good.

And I would love to see the Lions win a Super Bowl personally, just because, just, I mean, that franchise deserves a Super Bowl. If they, Dan Campbell. to the Super Bowl and they get they dominate they're up by you know they're up by three touchdowns going into the fourth quarter uh do you think with two minutes left that they suit up barry standards and let him have a run just for old time that would be badass but i was going to say the other team's going to call tom brady and say come down from the announcing booth and let's get you in some pads i guess that does see if you can do it another time that does start a bad precedent if they were to do that

But for Sanders' sake, I wish that, yeah, they would do that. Yeah, that would be pretty awesome. But I have the Lions, and man, I would love to see the bills. My favorite player in the NFL, I'm a Cowboys fan, but my favorite player in the NFL is Josh Allen. I fucking love Josh Allen. Talk about a Cinderella story of a kid, had no stars coming out of high school,

busted his ass, sent his high school tape to every person he could send it to. an opportunity, got drafted, and has just become a superstar for an awesome franchise. So I would love to see the Buffalo Bills and the Lions. And honestly, I'd love to see the Bills won it. Yeah, if you're going to- I'd love to see the Bills won it over the Lions just because the Bills have lost four, they lost four straight Super Bowls. Four straight Super Bowls. It went to four straight Super Bowls in their time, never won one. And I love Josh Allen. So I, I got the Bills. Go Bills. There's so many. There's so many. There's so many. like just, it would, it would hard, it would be hard to feel, one, it would be awesome for both those

teams. So it would be easy to feel good about both those teams and either one of them winning. But then if the bills were to lose that, you have to feel like the poor people of Buffalo. I mean, the curse just won't end. Yeah, that would suck. But then on the lion's side, you finally get the Super Bowl and you can't do it. But then if you're the bills and they win, maybe we should just have the chiefs play them and then the other, you know, just have the chiefs of lions go, lions beat the chiefs. Then we're, because everybody's over the chiefs. But if the bills win, you got to feel bad for Jim Kelly because he could never get it done.

No. And then Josh Allen gets it done the first time through. I mean, I think he'd be pretty excited. Yeah, he would be. They all would be excited. Yeah. I love it either way. Yeah, I'd love it either way too.

I think, um, I, I don't know. I think, I think the, I think, I think, I, don't know if the chiefs can do it. I do not want the chiefs to go. I do not either. I think I respect the shit out of that whole team. But just want something different. But man, if they three Pete, Mahomes is going to be in the goat talk. I mean, Tom Brady's got locked down secured, but Patrick Mahomes is, God damn. Who's doing the halftime show? I don't know. I don't know. But nobody's going to top Chris Stapleton's national anthem.

No, probably not. I know that. That was beautiful. Yeah, it was. That was the best damn national anthem I've ever heard. What's on the menu? What are we going to have? Definitely going to have wings. Wings are sold out on the farmer great website.

I think I held back a couple packs. All right, that's good. So wings, I think we should smoke some pork brisket because everybody always is like, we sold out of pork brisket. I know. I put them out as a cut of week last week, and all of them sold out. We got more coming. No.

Yeah, later. We do have more coming. Later. Pigs are going in tomorrow. Oh yeah, but we had 40. We just got 40 back and they've sold out like that. I think that's, it's, it is such a great cut because it's like having, literally we said this before. It's like, it's like, it's like having ribs, but it's kind of a little bit like brisket.

I describe it. I describe it to people that ask me, leaner parts taste like rib meat, fatter parts literally tastes exactly like a beef brisket. And it takes a third of the time. Yeah. So easy. Yeah. That's what I love about it.

I mean, it's quick. You're not having to do it overnight and plan and plan and plan. Yeah, it's no wonder this sold out. It's awesome. So wings, pork brisket, probably do some of those Kansas City barbecue links. Those things are fire. Those campfire links are good.

I don't know. You always got to have smokies. Have some smokies. uh chips and casso chips and salsa you know what i'm gonna do nachos i'm gonna take those kansas city lynx and i'm gonna cut them and i'm gonna wrap them in bacon i'm gonna wrap them in bacon i'm then put a little barbecue rub and some brown sugar on the top and i was just at a whiskey thing this this whiskey night last weekend and this guy took a crock pot and i think he just did like sausages just like a link cut a link up i don't know what link it was but he cut a link up threw it in this cockpot and

and he throw it in a crock put a crock pot what did i say put it in a cockpot no crock pot uh that would i would say something like that but no this time i'm being for real crock pot um i think sweet baby's baby rays barbecue sauce some brown sugar some jalapinos and i don't know if you had something else in there but man they were really really good Really, really good. But that's a good idea. I think I might do that. That'd be really good.

But those Kansas City Barbecue Winks are already pretty damn good. I think you just wrap them in bacon then and just put brown sugar on top of them. Just put a little brown sugar on the top of them and let them cook up until bacon's crispy. Yeah, it'd probably be pretty damn good. Yeah, so anyway, that's what I got. That's what, I mean, I don't got anything else to say. All right. I think that's it.

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