Barn Talk - How Do Farmers Handle Tough Times and Tougher Choices?

Episode Date: September 28, 2025

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I know. Maybe I'll wrap you up a gift if you're not on the naughty list. All right. Better tone down the profanity. I will do my best. And you better not mess up this market update. Oh, no. This market update is going to be smooth as butter.

I don't have the price on butter, but it's going to be smooth. Corn for December, 424. I think it closed unchanged today. Locally, best bid I could find was 375, 398 at ADM in Cedar Rapids, and that is, I think I said that off the December futures. Beans for November, 1026 on the board today. 985 at ADM and 1010 at Quincy.

Bean meal for October, $282 a ton. Wheat for December 522. December hogs are 8760. And where did I see? I want to say January hogs. were 77 maybe so i don't know whether that's that's still out a little ways but looks like it's backing off a little bit cattle for october 233 feeder cattle 349 crude oil 62 38 uh the s and p 500 was 66067 today uh google 255 dears kind of been on the skid skids at

$472. They're laying off some more people. What, in Des Moines, I think. Bitcoin, $15,000. Tesla, $426 a share. I wish I had all my Tesla shares. I wish I had some Bitcoin. Yeah, be good.

Might as well buy it now. Never a bad time to buy because it's just going to go higher. Tesla is on kind of a run. Are you a financial expert? This is not financial advice. is a disclaimer that you should all read at the end of this episode online that tells you not to take advice at the bottom of the description yeah don't take advice from circus midgets like me however i will say i watched a pretty interesting video yesterday about uh kind of where tesla's

full self-driving is and it's getting faster faster and the reason is because they have logged so much video and they have done so much sampling and basically the the AI has gotten to the point that it has seen so many yellow lines stop signs red lights green lights dogs cats deer purple hair purple hair got to watch you still got to watch for the purple hairs or blue hair they they react entirely different than deer uh you know they might go halfway cross road they might be Grizzly, they might be a lion. Yeah, you don't know whether they're going to run across the road, whether they're going to try to run at your car. I mean, yeah, I imagine that it still struggles with the blue and purple hair. They might be licking themselves like a dog or licking themselves like a cat. It all depends. I mean, they might identify as a deer that day.

You might even find one fucking a car. Hey, I thought you said, now this is double standard. Clean up your mouth. Just pretend Amy Larson's here. I know. Okay. Anyway, geez,

this is pretty, this was pretty techy. Yeah. So basically what it comes down to is the software has gotten so good at identifying the easy stuff that it does, it actually can run, it actually has to run fewer calculations all the time because there's so much that it's already known that it just has to run fringe.

All right. I'm, I'm done with that. Oh, it's not you. I'm just. laugh at that comment that was a little might have been a little too much on my head he might have said a little too hard that was good i yeah i was just playing around so i hope i hope no blue hair ladies watch i don't think that we have many of those people i don't think so yeah uh anyway

all that to say i think that it's probably going to uh just go higher because they're executing on what they need to do gold 37016 silver $39 uh uh The 30-year Treasury 475, the 10-year 4.13, our good friend, Jerome Powell, cut a quarter of a point off the interest rate and told us that a half-point was never even in the discussion because they've got such a firm grip on everything they're doing that, no need for that. And I did throw in beyond meat there just because there was a story out today that their operational margin now is a negative 46%.

and their number of days on payments to vendors has more than doubled. And there is a significant risk of them not being able to continue as a business entity. I thought that would warm your own. You're never going to beat meat. Nope, you just can't beat meat. Never bet against the meat. You can't beat it. The meat can't be beat.

Nope, they can't. That's all I got. This market update is courtesy of our good friends, at Contera Ag. If you would like a second set of eyes on the finances of your operation, give our good friends at Contera a call or email or go to their website at contaraag.com.

And one more thing. You know, I forget because there's a lot of people that do a lot of great stuff for us and we don't always give them credit. I wanted to shout out a good friend of ours, Kyle Bennett from Brandt Manufacturing, because on the farm channel, you're going to see us demo in a Brant grain cart. They were kind enough to bring one over and let us demo it, and I'm pretty excited about that. It's a pretty sweet rig.

Also, Estes Concaves, we are running a set of XPR3 concaves in David's 660, and we got him in the other day and we've only run, I don't know, what do we run? 10 acres, 15 acres, and then we had drier problems, but they, there aren't many things

that when people tell you that they're going to do this, this and this, that, you know, they really do. They really make a difference. They made a big difference. Yeah, and his other ones were shot. Yeah.

So he was in dire need for some new content. He was in the need for a new pair. So I should preface that and there'll be a video about it. It's not like we were running brand new concaves and pulled them and put these in. He needed a set of concaves anyway. However, they definitely are what they're cracked up to be.

I don't know. I was trying to think of anything else. I think that's it. You kind of got into our first question. Somebody asked us, how's harvest going? Well, it's not going very well because David's corn. David's the neighbor who he farm with.

He's been on the podcast a few times. times. We always try to have him on after harvest, but his corn's a lot drier than ours. We still got some green in our corn. So we went over there to start, and we were going to do, you know, like Dad said, we were going to do, I don't know, we're going to do a full day maybe or half a day and then maybe switch out those concave to kind of show the difference. But soon, soon into it, dryer started having problems and he's got one of those dry can you explain it's a top dry so it's a modified top dry so he's got a wet bin that dumps into a

store more bin that is a top dry and so it has it has like the fans the two burners are mounted you can't see me I keep thinking people well they can't if they're watching yeah but the fans and dryers are mounted at the top of the bin not the bottom and there's like a series of doors up there that closed and you run in so many thousand bushels of corn and it dries at the top and then when it hits the right temperature,

the doors open, the corn drops down below, and then there's a transfer auger that takes it out. And then at the end of the season, when you get down the end and the corn's dry, you just open the doors, run it, fill that bin, and use it as a storage bin. But there is a series of control, controls, control boards, and hydraulic rams and all sorts of things that have to work in unison.

And basically one of the boards out of the controller was bad. I think that he got that in today, but it's still not kicking from high to low like it should. And when I talked to him about a half hour ago, because if it was working, we wouldn't be doing this episode. Yeah, we'd be going. but he was not in good spirits. I told him, well, that sucks. If you need anything, call us, but we're going to do a podcast and maybe drink whiskey the rest of the afternoon.

And I don't, that didn't get a chuckle out of me. So anyway, it's been slow. His corn's damn good, though. Yeah, it's testing out those concave. Got to look at the yield monitor. Obviously, we're not into it too deep yet. But yields look pretty good. It does seem to be a little dry, though.

I think he was going between 16 to 20 percent. Yeah. Somewhere in there. What we were running at the end was right out about just under 18%. So it, and as warm as it's been. We're probably going to just go bals the wall if we get going. Yeah, but our corner over here is a little bit behind. And I don't know why.

It's crazy that, like, you know, we don't live that far away from David. I mean, you know, I don't know. What do you think? four miles four miles and the difference it's crazy just just the amount of that that many miles the amount of difference that there is and i don't know did he get less rain did he get more rain or we probably got more rain i don't know it's just crazy to see that that you can kind of be all over the county or all over some area and there's just corn and i know the maturity and the hybrids and all that makes a difference too but it's just david claims that it's because the sun always shines a little

brighter at tall corn acres. That's his farm name is tall corn acres. And the corn is a little taller over there. He's got some tall corn. Yeah, he does. Yep. He's got a good cob on him. Yes, it is.

So yeah, that's how harvest is going. Kind of Jonesen, to be honest. Kind of Jones isn't ready to get going because we kind of know what's ahead. So I don't want to be dragging this out for an entire month. you know, I'd like to, you know, I'd like to get it going in a good time because when you're doing all the stuff we're doing, like, I love harvest, I enjoy it. But the thing that makes me not enjoy it as much is just the fact that there's so much other shit going on outside of being in the tractor that you just fear when you get done, you're going to be drinking from a fire hose and what's breaking, what's wrong, what problem's going to come up and I can't handle it because I'm in here. So that makes it a little less enjoyable. But the overall action of doing it, you know, I'm always ready to do it.

I always love doing it. Yep. But anyway. Oh, yeah. So this is just a side note, but I was just thinking about this yesterday when we were over there running corn. Everybody this year, and this has been this way the last two years for sure, the markets always weighed on the USDA crop numbers, and they're never right, and they're never right,

and nobody, you know, they're going off of FSA data, but anything they do as far as, I don't know, I don't know where they're getting their numbers, but they're not right. They weren't right last year, and it took them all the way to January before they got them half-ass close, and they revised them like hardly at all down from what they thought the yield was going to be.

And I just, are they even relevant? I just question whether, like USDA when it comes to their crop reporting, there's so many professional trading companies and ag companies that do their own, whether that be pro pharma, pro farmer or I can't remember what the other one, is, I mean, well, I just think it's probably a lot like the meat side. I mean, I've heard from countless people in the industry that it just depends on who you get. I mean, you might get somebody that's by the book and they might even be wrong.

You know, they might even be educated enough and they get something wrong and they're telling this processor they can or cannot do something. And then the processor goes to their higher up and they're like, no, you can do that. Yeah. And there's guys that are more lenient on stuff than others. And it's just kind of varies. I think, and I think the USDA, I don't know, it seems like they're understaffed. There's a lot of shit going on.

I know that's probably a separate division, but it's probably similar. I mean, it probably varies. There's probably a lot of, I don't know. You'd like to think that you trust in the organization that the training is all the same. and well, there goes your Christmas gift. Gosh, dang it. Dad's phone, I don't know if you're, I don't know. Maybe our audio equipment's so good that it didn't pick up on it,

but Dad's phone went off. I thought I had everything shut off, but I didn't. There goes that meat. Well, the example is, or the analogy is, when somebody comes to your house or somebody shows up your business, says, hi, I'm from the government, I'm here to help. It's never good. Never good.

Nope, they probably want money. Yep, probably. Anyway, all that to say, and it's neither here or there. I'm sure they're going to keep putting out the numbers, but I just don't even think they're relevant anymore. We kind of talked about the concave, so I don't think we have to hit that again. Cody sent us a question, and he asked,

as more and more dairies build digesters slash separators and sell carbon credits, what does that do to the smaller guys that have to make their money off of actually selling milk? and I think that question is kind of ties into, you know, our like manure separation project. And a lot of dairies are going to be, are moving that way just because of the amount of water that they have to process. And I think the DNR and the EPA, water is going to be a bigger and bigger deal. So these big dairies are just, they've got.

problems and they need to get they need to be able to process this manure get the water out of it because manure i don't know about dairy manure hog maneuver is about 80% water so think about the transportation that you can save by pulling that water out and then if you can if you can filter that water treat that water to where you can either recycle it uh to the animals or you can discharge it and you don't have to worry about anything because it's clean. It just, it solves a multitude of problems. But I think the best thing I can say about this idea that they're going to make a bunch of money off selling credits

versus selling milk, I think that that market, I think there's a limit to how many credits, how big of an amount, how big of an amount, appetite there is for these credits. And I think you're going to get to a point of equilibrium to where for the cost of the investment to do all this versus what you get out of it from a carbon credit standpoint, I don't think that's going to be the big, I don't think that's going to be the big advantage. I think the big advantage is you're going to be able to operate. You're going to be

able to keep, you're going to be able to keep your dairy and you're not going to get fined for having your soil test too heavy or over applying or whatever. I mean, I think that's what it comes down to. Cost savings too. Yeah. I mean, I think it's just, I think that is where it's going to go. I don't think that the credits are ever going to be this giant profit center. There's going to be some guys that are going to make considerable money out of the gate because there is a void there and there is a market for the credits. But I think that that market is not unlimited. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, once all the, once all the companies that want credits get credits, you can't, yeah, and they're, I mean, they're probably going to have contracts with those people

that provide them the credits year after year. And then the people that don't get in on it to sell them early enough to land those contracts probably will be shit out of luck. So yeah, I don't really know what it does the small dairy farmer. I think the small dairy farmers just got to keep producing milk and finding ways to diversify the farm. And, yeah, the biggest thing would be worrying about regulation and the EPA or, you know, DNR coming up, sniffing up your ass and putting you out of business because, yeah, I mean, just here in Iowa, the DNR has really gotten strict on things on the manure waste side for hog barns. I mean, it's, It's everywhere.

I think it's just going to be more and more of a thing that we have to deal with. And you just got to be making sure you're following with the rules or have somebody in your corner that works with you that knows the rules and keeps you compliant. But the cost of it all and the amount of paperwork, those kinds of people are having to deal with now, it's a lot more than it used to be. And I think one more point that I'll make is,

while the carbon credits are what people are talking about today, the water thing is actually a much bigger deal. And I think as we get down the road, I think there'll be massive incentives for reducing water usage and recycling the water out of this manure because I think water is ultimately going to be a bigger issue and a bigger possible profit center. than the credits, the carbon credits.

Yeah, no, and we've heard that been thrown around a little bit, water credit, you know, being thrown around. I don't think it's quite there yet, but just from people we've talked to, it seems that that conversation just keeps getting more and more, more fire added to it. So I think you're right. Yeah, and it's a bigger and bigger deal out west

as far as having enough water. Because you've had this explosion of construction of dairies out west, and, you know, they're scarce on water anyway. And so there it's a huge deal. In the Midwest, it's more an issue of, you take like Wisconsin and Minnesota, you have so many, so many lakes and so many open sources of water that you have to worry about contaminating or manure getting, to them or nitrates getting to them and that's you know that's kind of the different side of it their

problem isn't water for the animals their problem is keeping that water and uh recycling it cleaning it and all of that but all of that's going to get to be a bigger and bigger deal yeah tim asks will feeder cattle hit four dollars and our 24 dollar grocery store rib buys is that the limit or is it just going to keep going up. I don't know. What do you think? Well, I've talked to a few people that I know that are in the meat business and I got a, I got a friend that knows a friend that works at Cargale. And he, that guy at Cargale said he doesn't think the price is going to come down. Not for the foreseeable future. He thinks it's going to keep going based on what they're seeing over there. And Cargill is a big ass company and they, you know, not saying that those,

companies know everything look at bud wiser right look at countless examples of those people being not knowing their shit but cargill has got a pretty big footprint on knowing what's going on and ag and i'm sure knowing what the trends are the her numbers are what they're seeing and that's just one person but i don't know guys it's it's like we've said it a hundred times on here the demand, I think it's a perfect storm. I think when everything rose, all of our prices rose because of inflation, and the beef price rose and it's continued to rise, I think people just accepted, well, everything else is going up. This must, rib-eyes must be going up too because of everything else just going up, but I'm not going to sacrifice not buying myself a rib-eye because I want a

damn steak or I want ground beef. I'm not going to sacrifice eating beef, right? That's just something I'm not going to sacrifice. And as a result of that, I don't know if consumers are even aware of what is actually taking place in the beef market size or are they just blaming inflation in the economy for that because everything else is that way. You know what I mean? And so had this happened, had this happened in a time where the economy was thriving? and do you think consumers? I think consumers might have recognized it and been like, geez, why is beef so damn expensive? Like, because it's just, it would have been an outlier of why is this price so high?

You know what I mean? Right. But since everything's gone up, it just seems like people just have this broad brush. Yeah. That everything is going up, but I'm not going to sacrifice not eating beef. So the demand side doesn't seem to be coming down. and her numbers are, I haven't checked in a while, but it seems like they're still down.

And again, we talked about it on here before, you know, even if her numbers do go up, it's still going to take a long time. A long time to meet the demand. So the only way that I see it coming down is on the demand side. Right. That's the only way that it comes down.

And at what price? Yeah. At what price do you look at that rib eye and go, I'm not paying that? Because I thought that we were already there, and I don't know. I feel like when you're looking at $25 a pound for grocery store ribbyes in the meat case, I think we're getting close to where people are going to say, now it's going to start where, you know, me and sweetie are going to split a ribeye.

Yeah, and the other thing is, I don't know. you see beef sticks and that shit's all I mean we're in the era of beef sticks and convenience so I don't know how much that plays into the price either but these packers the sheer amount of volume that's out there is people would not even they can't even comprehend it it's absolutely nuts

the amount of beef that's out there and then how much beef can you import yeah that's the other there's another wrinkle. I mean, how much beef can you import? And, you know, JBS is. Oh, yeah. And I sent this to you, or I told you about it. I can't remember if I sold it, sent it to you or not, but I thought it was interesting. I saw a locker that was advertising. They were selling hamburger that was a blend of ground beef and ground pork. And it was like, you know, it was a cheaper price. I can't remember if it was $4.99 a pound or something like that.

But you're going to see more of that kind of stuff. You're going to see people trying to find a way to get a product at a lower price point that people will go after. Yeah. It might, yeah, I don't know. I just, what I'm seeing, what I'm hearing is people aren't thinking it's going to come down. Now you talk to any cattle farmer, they're going to say, oh, we're hedging. We're hedging, you know. I don't know.

You know, we're counting our days here. It's good, but it ain't going to be like this forever. Yeah. Like, shut off. You're fucking loving it right now. Just say you love it. You cattle guys are loving it. And hey, you deserve it.

This is a actual, this is a fucking bull run that we've never seen in a long. Fuck, I don't know when the last time this, is this ever fucking happened? I don't know when the last time cattle were on a run as long as what this is. Yeah, it's good for the cattle guys. I think the cattle guys should be that they needed something like this. But yeah, and I don't blame them for wanting to hedge and be proactive because you just never fucking know when it's going to come back down. And I know that there's guys I've talked to that are like,

man, it'd be good to getting in some cattle right now. But I think everybody, and that's the other thing. That's the other reason I don't think herd numbers are going to go up is because unless you're somebody that has got a lot of cash, a lot of liquidity, and you're just some big dude that wants to raise some cattle because it's just good right now. And you're like, if it tanks, I'm fine because I'm loaded.

Paying cash. But I think there's a lot of young people or a lot of people that would like love the opportunity and jump on it right now. But I don't know if they're going to pull the trigger because it's just... It's very difficult to get some. started. I mean, we talk about how hard it is to get started in ag. It's pretty hard to get started

in the cattle business right now. Yeah. Because, yeah, buying the, I mean, buying the feeders and finish, I don't even know if that would, I don't even know if that fucking pencil or not. Yeah. That's a lot of money. It's a lot. It's a lot of money tied up. So, so what you're telling me is that, uh, you don't think that, uh, the cattle guys are going to get a handout payment from the government like they're talking about doing for the, the for the crop guys? No, I think they're going to be all right. I think they're going to

be just fine, but a lot of cattle guys probably have some row crop too, so they might double dip a little bit. We had a question to whether or not there's going to be another farmer welfare payment and whether we need one. So, oh man, you know, the social media

I think it started, I think the ones that took off was there was some farmers or a farmer and I don't know who they were. down in Arkansas that put out this social media post about how bad everything was and how they needed, you know, Trump to step in because these farmers are all going to go out of business. And holy cow, people just started going off on that and talking about how, you know, these are all people that supported Trump.

And now then Trump's biting them in the ass and they get what they deserve. and you know you can't have it both ways and da-da-da-da-da-da. Well, now then you've got members of Congress and a lot of ag states that are pushing the same thing that because input prices are just keep going up and corn prices are low, soybean prices are low, cost of equipment, blah, blah, blah, you know, all the stuff. And they're lobbying for a farm payment

to help these guys out. And I just want you all to know that when you hear stuff like that, I think about 80% to 90% of that is all from lobbyists who worked for the equipment companies, the seed companies, the chemical companies, the ag banks, your farm credits, your robobank.

and fertilizer companies. Because if the farmers do get a payment, do you know where all that money is going to go? It's going to go right into those guys' pockets because all that's going to happen is, and it already is, cost of fertilizer for next year, up. Cost of seed for next year, up.

John Deere, they're going to tell you that, oh, this or that or whatever it is, tariffs going to cost you more. Now, I know for a fact that if you are buying, at least in the tractor world, if you're in a position that you can pay for a tractor, I think the prices are very negotiable within a lot of these companies because they are scared to death and they're trying to move and I think that you get a pretty good deal on things

if you've got the cash to pay for it. But all of that to say, it is, a, I think that, and I can only speak for myself, I don't know, but I think most farmers aren't out there crying for a handout, but the industry is, because it's exactly as I say, they'll line their pockets out of this deal. Yeah, it's sad because, you know, that's, I agree with you. I don't, I don't see this outcry for government assistance and any of it. that there is, I think that they want to add fuel to the fire on it

to show that they, that these far, all these poor farmers, they need this. But I think you're, I've talked to a few people about that. Farmers, they, they agree. I mean, what you just said, that's exactly what's going to happen. If there is a, and that, that's what the consumer should know too is like, anytime that happens, you just got to know, like, it's going to go right back to the cost to actually produce the crop. It's not because those companies realize the farmer's got what they got

and they're going to raise prices. And that's what happens every time. So it's not like the farmer's going to have more money in their pocket. They will for a very short time. Yeah. But it won't fucking matter because you'll need it to put in. Your input costs. You'll need it to put in the crop for the following year.

So. it's just another example of like this is the this is the this is part of the system that's fucking broken in my opinion you know when people like to say the agricultural system is broken you know people will say like the entire way we raise animals and the entire way that we do what we do is broken

that's not necessarily what I think's broken I think what's broken is the model of farmers making making it, making a dollar, making a dollar and having some control of their own destiny a little bit and it being a, you know, a profitable endeavor. That's,

it's just another example of that where it's, it's just like, how long are we just going to take it in the shorts and let them control what our, what our destiny is? Yeah. You know, and I don't know, fuck, let's all hold grain.

Hey, if Nebraska and Iowa just said, hey let's hold the grain what do you think would happen i think that i think there would be a lot of farmers that say yeah that's a good idea till it went up 10 cents and then they'd start selling yeah they cut throat hold hold i'm holding yeah yeah no you're not pretty fast no you're not yeah it's just i don't know what you do i mean we talk about it on here all the time i don't know how we change it. I don't know how long it, how sustainable is.

You know, as I think about later down in my life when I'm your age, I mean, shit. What's that, what is it, what's it going to cost? Yeah. To do it. Is it even, I mean, can you even do row crop at that point? Is it even going to be

viable to row crop? Well, I think what you do is, I think it's exactly. I think we just had, we just had, we just had Matt on Matt Kroll and I think there's going to be people like that that when you say diversified, they're seriously diversified and then we also need more people doing what Jason Mock's doing.

I was telling you, I just watched him today talking about, you know, the whole idea of you know, planting a crop, plant a cover crop when the corn comes off that you can turn cattle on, you cav on that in the spring and then you come in there and you plant into it because you've got the fertilizer from the cattle there basically thumb in your nose at the fertilizer companies and uh the equipment companies because you need you can you can get more dollars per acre

and less input per acre so you don't need because there's a lot of guys out there, let's face it, that honestly probably don't want to be farming the acres they're farming. But the economics of it drive it. But if you could make

the margin on fewer acres, why would you not do that? Yeah, I'm going to be honest. Like, that guy needs to go on fucking Joe Rogan. I know he does. When you want to talk about a mat, like if you guys haven't listened to that episode of him yet, we had him on,

His name is Jason Mock. Look him up. Look up that episode. It's like a mad scientist talking fucking straight agriculture. Like the dude is just like, he's just a different breed. And he just has got some really outside the box ideas that it's not like crazy outside the box. It seems simple when he says it. But it's not all about waxing your carrot about the top end yield.

Remember that moment? Yeah. It's not all about waxing your carrot. about the top end yield. It's about how can you raise the most profitable crop possible while also taking care of your land and

yeah, like you said, more dollars, less inputs and doing it smart. And I mean, he is doing some crazy, awesome shit on his operation. We need to have him back on, truth be told, and we really need to go out there and check out his operation because I think

if you're going to stay in road crop and you're a smaller guy, or if you're a bigger guy and you want to farm less acres, what he's doing seems to be working. I mean, it really does seem to be working. It's outside the box, but it's innovative and it makes sense when he breaks it down. So, yeah, I agree with you on that.

And my next tidbit plays right into that because we, Well, we're going to have figured out because I just saw, I think this was this morning, Chuck Grassley, good old Chuck, was bagging about some company announced that they're moving away from high fructose corn syrup and they're going back to sugar. And he was, you know, he was thumbing the drum about how, uh, Corn syrup is sugar, and we can't kill like 73 cents out of a bushel is from corn sweetener and all that. Well, that might be, and I don't care. Whatever, you can do whatever you want. You can buy as many sugary drinks you want. I drink, I mean, half the reason that I'm a midget is because I probably drank way too much Mountain Dew while eating a bowl of fruit loops

watching Thundar the Barbarian as a kid. I mean, probably stunned my growth. I'm recovering. I don't consume sugar like I used to. But the next thing on that's going to be soybean oil because my wife bought a bag of surgeon potato chips, which is a local made in Burlington, Iowa, and it's kind of a Midwest thing.

And they used to be really, really good. And then I think regulation, they had to change kind of how they made them, and they've never been as good to me. Well, they switch and they're frying them 100% beef tallow. They went away from corn oil and soybean oil and all that. And I think they're way closer to what I remember them being growing up. But all of this artificial shit and all of this hydrogenated oils,

people are waking up. And my thing to old Chuck Grassley is this is why you need commodity groups. So a lot of people would say, a lot of people would say, oh yeah you know the the corn growers the soybean growers they're they're driving all this no those guys are working every day to come up with new uses for corn and soybeans and I'm sure the wheat guys are the same and we need to support that because if you don't change the world leaves you behind and yes we developed this market we came up with, you know, we came up with replacements for sugar and there's reasons why they did that

and high fructose corn syrup. I mean, it was in freaking everything. And hydrogenated oils, everybody bought in the idea that, you know, the animal fats, you shouldn't be using animal fats. Well, guess what? We've never been fatter and more unhealthy than what we are today. And it didn't just happen, you know, overnight and it didn't just happen just out of nowhere. There's things that have caused it, and a lot of it's our diet. Some of it's because we don't fucking do much anymore compared to our ancestors. But anyway, all that to say,

the pendulum swinging the other way. And you can put your foot down and drag in the sand and say all the reasons why it shouldn't be that way. And you know what? It doesn't matter because it's going that way. And so as an industry, I was just sitting here. I grew 100% corn on everything this year. And it might not have been very smart. now, but the economics on beans were terrible.

But I was sitting here thinking, you know, the days of all of us farmers thinking that we're only going to grow two crops or we're only going to crawl one crop, those days may be over. We may have to grow, we may have to grow several different things. We may have to go back to growing different stuff. We may have to go back to running livestock on part of our ground and not growing anything on it. and you don't know, but the world's changing.

And you can stick your head in the sand and say, nope, not going to do it, you know, and we're going to keep doing what we're doing. Well, you do that. You'd be out of business. Yeah. So anyway, I don't think Chuck has the answer, and he needs to retire.

I know he's going to. Yeah, I don't know. Fighting for corn syrups. I don't know if that's going to be a... That's not a winner. I don't know if you're on the right side of the history books on that one. No, yeah. You know, yeah.

That's how I agree. I'm not on the, I'm not on the movement of if you're producing something that's not good for public health, you know, then I'm for probably not continuing that. Yeah. You know what I mean? Fighting for that.

And I know that it's good for us because it's another use of corn, but at the same time, if tallow is better, let's, let's, you know, and we can get rid of some of that stuff. and the oils too. Like, let's soybean oil, let's do it.

Because I think that our health sucks in America. So, yeah, let's do it, you know. And it's not all because of that. Right. So like corn syrup.

Well, corn syrup's probably fine. Back when people got a Coke and it was a 12 ounce glass of Coke. But today, we have people, run around with these jugs that fill them up at the gas station three times a day and every item they eat is fried food. I mean, it's not, it's like they created a product that serves a purpose that has a market and then the American consumer has treated themselves like shit.

So it's like, it's really hard to sit here and say that those two things is what's ruin people. People got to be responsible for their own health. For sure. That's part of it. Well, I think that's what you're seeing. I don't know. Like I said, I think companies are, obviously companies are seeing that there's, the

consumer is wanting this because the consumer is getting more and more aware of the negative shit they're putting in their body. And they're probably seeing it with sales. And so they're knowing, we got to make a fucking change here. Or else we're not going to sell, we're not going to sell. or continue selling our shit. Yeah. But if,

and I don't know whether they are or not, but if you say, let's just say that five guys goes to beef tallow. If you, if you eat that bag of fries at five guys every day of the week, it doesn't matter whether it's fried in tallow or it's fried in corn oil.

Neither one, you ain't going to be healthy either way. That's kind of the, those are the extremes. Yeah. I mean, it's like, that's not going to make us more healthy. But you got to put in a little bit of effort.

It's just like sturges. Yeah. I mean, if you eat those potato chips every day, you ain't going to get, it doesn't matter what they're fried in. It's just, I think people are more mindful of ingredients than ever before. And, you know, that's just part of it. But yeah, calories in, calories out for sure, an exercise. So.

Yep. Yep. Where are we at now? We're burning through. We are burning through. Somebody asked us our thoughts on, Jimmy Kimmel's firing. Who is that?

Hell, you should know more than me about Jimmy Kimmel. That was sarcasm? Well, that was. Yeah. Yeah, he's pretty, I think he's been irrelevant for a while. I mean, he still has got, he still had that show, but, you know, my reaction to it is, uh, I mean, he for a long time, I, I don't like cancel culture, but, but, you know, he was he was canceled culture at the same time i mean he kind of had this coming a little bit

oh yeah because i mean the amount of people that like he was ecstatic when tucker carlson got kicked off fox news and he had a whole bit about that i mean the dude he let's just be honest jimmy kimmel is bought 100% and paid for by the establishment that dude is a media he's not CNN or MSNBC, but he's his rhetoric and what he preaches and what he says, it is not coming from out of his own thoughts.

Bill Maurer, on the other hand, now Bill Maurer is a liberal. I respect the fuck out of Bill Maher, and he's also an atheist. But why I respect Bill is because when Bill's talking to you, it's what he really thinks. It is actually what Bill Maher's thinking

and what he believes. And that is why I like Bill, I respect Bill Maher. Jimmy Kimmel, he's an empty vessel. He's an empty vessel. He, exactly. That's exactly right.

And so it's not, it's not like, I don't like Jimmy Kimmel because it's politics. That's not it. Because I respect Bill. Sometimes I like Bill Maher's takes, right?

He's got his own show. But the guys that are empty vessels that, I don't, you're becoming more and more irrelevant. And this, I'm not surprised by this because yeah, his reaction to Charlie Kirk

just like his reaction to Tucker Carlson, just like his reaction to whoever else got canceled and he celebrated it, well, it came back to bite you in the ass and you can't, you're not invincible. And to say that all the celebrities and the politicians that had their reaction, this is an attack on freedom of speech,

Charlie Kirk getting assassinated was attack on free speech. And guess what? Nobody killed Jimmy Kimmel. Nobody attacked him. The company fucking fired him because he said something stupid. So if you're going to be pissed at anybody, don't say that this is an attack on freedom of speech and that like this is somehow...

Like when you say that, it almost sounds like... They're trying to blame the government and power right now that Jimmy Kimmel got fired from his job. No, the network fired his ass. And let's be clear. ABC... I'd say they actually look, they look kind of consistent because they're the ones that fired Roseanne Barr. They're the ones that fired the lady that was on the Mandalorian when it was super popular.

Yeah, I don't remember her name. She was in Guardians of the Galaxy. And you're all okay with that. That wasn't a threat on freedom of speech. And I loved, I love Barack Obama. Talk about people that are irrelevant. Barack Obama had to get out and put his two cents in and talk about how this was attack on freedom of speech

and Roseanne Barr, she replied to him and was like, oh yeah, like how you stood up for me when they fired me. I thought that, I mean, I don't remember what her exact reply was, but it was savage and it was spot on. And it's like, yeah, of course. I mean, there's another guy that's completely irrelevant. Well, and what the reaction from the people that react, to him getting fired and standing up,

it just solidified for me that he is 100%. He was 100% an empty vessel that was bought and paid for. Because the people that are reacting are the celebrities and the politicians on the left that are all bought and paid for. And in the mainstream media on the left

that are all bought and paid for. So it literally just said to me, yep, you guys all are, you guys are all together. Yep. You guys all know you're playing the same game. You've been playing the same game. And you're just pissed because your buddy got fucking fired.

Yeah. And you're mad about it. But when it happens on the other side, you don't say shit. You celebrate it even. That's what you do. Jimmy Kimmel would highlight it and make a joke of it. So I could give a fuck less. I think it's he had it coming.

I don't like cancel culture altogether. I think it's make this country. week. There are some lines that you can 1,000% cross. Do not get me wrong. There are some people that say some outlandish shit that they shouldn't say or do. But we're all human at the end of the day. We're all flawed. We're all sinners. And people are going to make mistakes. And I don't think you should judge somebody off of one mistake. And that's how you define them for the rest of their life depending on how severe it is, right? But, and he could have apologized, but he said he wasn't going to apologize.

Although, two things. One, ABC, I think, was scared to death because if I'm right on this, I don't think they've ever had a time where as many affiliates, in other words, as many stations that are independently owned that run ABC on their on their cable network or on, you know, their local affiliate, the backlash from them, if they wouldn't have taken him off, they were not going to show the Tonight Show. They said, no, we're not going to do it. And that was what got it going. And the other thing I'll say is ABC really played this well because they're getting the exact reaction that they want because nobody's blaming them.

Everybody is blaming all the right, all the right, and they're blaming Trump, and they're blaming everybody else. They're not blaming ABC. And Clay, Clay Travis brought this up last night, and I thought this was a really good point. So one, they're in the same boat as what, was that CBS that had Colbert on? they fired him because basically they've been losing money on that show for however long. Well, Jimmy Kimmel, they're not making any money on that. His viewership has been tanking for a long time.

But ABC is trying to buy, their parent company Disney, is trying to buy NFL network. So one, you get rid of Jimmy Kimmel, you save a bunch of money. Well, and they know that they need to appeal to the NFL audience. Exactly. And you don't want to piss off the FCC, which Trump now, because he's in office, has a hand on the FCC.

So don't kid yourself. They looked at this as an opportunity and we're like, okay, we save a bunch of money. We ain't going to get blamed for it. We're not going to piss off the administration. We can appeal to the NFL. and we might get this deal done and be able to buy NFL network. I think that is, I think that's spot on.

And that was Clay Travis that I heard that from. So kudos to him because I thought that was a, I know, that's, I mean, follow the money. That's a lot of, that's a lot of, would you boil it down to a lot of decisions that happen and things that happen? Follow the money. That's a big, that's a big one. And yeah, I didn't even think of that, but that's, that's probably what,

that was probably their framework for making the decision. I thought that was pretty yeah, that is pretty good actually. But yeah, all and all, again, we've talked about it a million times on this show. The people that are out there that, whether they're on left, whether they're on right, you know, the Bill Maher's the world, the Joe Rogans, the Sean Ryan's, the, you know, the Tucker Carlson's having his own thing. And you know what? Maybe Jimmy can start his own thing and not be a vessel anymore. And maybe he'll show a different side of himself. That would be great. I want, what I want in our media is people that make real content, speaking from their, from their point of view, their real opinion on shit. That's what we need. That is what we need.

This network television night show shit is irrelevant. It's irrelevant. It's irrelevant. People smell it. They see it. They recognize that this is bullshit. This is not what we want. We want the real stuff. We want the meat and potatoes. We want your actual. opinion on things. We want what you actually think, not being an empty vessel that you just say the, the, what they want you to say. What's on the cue card. What's on the script, in your own words, make a joke out of it. We want real shit. That's what people crave. That's what we want in our media. And so I think, I think that's what's, like we've said, cable news and these mainstream media shit, it's not going to work. It's not going to be, I don't think it's going to continue on unless

they make a drastic change, but I don't think they will because they need, they recognize and have had that conglomerate for so long. Well, they had a captive audience. That's the thing. There wasn't the options that it is. I think that's a great point. I think that if,

if Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert think that they honestly have a base of people that love, that really value what they, think, start your podcast. And I'm sure they will start podcasts. I guarantee you they will. I mean, that's, that's what everybody's doing now. Even Chris Como, or Como. Yeah. You know, when he was on CNN, he was, he was a vessel. But he, when he got fired and let go from that, he

started to kind of, you know, he started to wake up and say how he actually feels, not saying that I think Chris Como, Como is a great guy or anything like that, but hey, he's actually saying what he fucking thinks. And I think his tune changed a little bit after that. And I think people respect that. That's what we want. That is what we want. So, yeah, I encourage him. Start your own thing. Tell everybody what you really think and see what and the, and the market will decide whether or not you actually deliver value or not. Yeah. Speaking of the NFL, you know, guys, I am, I had this thought the other day. This is going to be week three.

Week three started last night. I love football. I love watching NFL and college football. But I just can't wrap my head around this. The NFL, you know, the NFL that I knew, I was born 2000, right? I'm 25 years old. I didn't live the 90s or the 80s. I didn't live the 70s of NFL where it was hard hitting and, you know, guys were

beaten up on each other. you know, smack talk was in an all-time high, and it was nitty-gritty football. And even in the early 2000s, it was that too, hard-hitting, all that stuff. But we're in a point now in football where why are we trying to be politically correct inside NFL football? And I mean, when I say politically correct, that's not the right term. I just mean, why are you taking away shit that people love about football? why are you taking away the big hits? Why are you taking away taunting?

Like a guy, literally a guy, the Eagles Cowboys game, opening game of the year, a guy tackled a running back in the backfield. Eagles defensive end tackled somebody in the backfield, got up and flexed on them. And you throw a penalty. That shit, that is the shit we like. That is the shit that fans want to see more of.

We want to see teams, you know, getting a little bit of a scruff. Have a little bravado. Yeah, getting a little bit of a scruffle. Knock somebody's ass over the middle. Like, get up and tackle somebody or sack somebody in the backfield and talk some shit. That's what we want to see. That is grown-ass men playing football on the gridiron and, you know, being modern-day Coliseum shit.

That's what we want. You know, I don't get it. I don't understand why they're doing this. I don't understand why they're taking the fabric away from the game. And on the big hit side, I understand you want to protect players' safety. I get that. I think that's a good thing. But you listen to these guys.

All these athletes are going on podcasts and talking and they have their own platform. You hear them talk. They all say, we know what we're signing up for. I love this game so much. I'm putting my body on the line. And I don't give a shit. I'm playing this game because I love it that much. I'm going to play this game.

I know what I'm signing up for. So you got to find this balance. And I just feel like every year, every year football is just getting more and more, like going away from its roots of what makes it fucking awesome. Like what people love about it. What people love about it. And this new kickoff, like,

this new kickoff in the NFL, like I get it. want to get the return, the kick return rate up, but gosh, dang, I just, I don't like it. It just solidifies how great Devin Hester was, by the way. But if you wanted more return rate, make the kick or kick, take the kickoff and take it back 10, 15 yards. You'll get more returns then. Don't go away from the kickoff that's always been. So anyway, that's my long run on the NFL. I think Roger Cadell needs to chill a little bit, the commissioner of the NFL on taking away

the fabric of the game that everybody in America loves because they keep going, people are going to be tired of that shit. It's enough to drive you to drinking. It is. It sure is. I wasn't sure whether we were going to do a whiskey minute, but as I was watching you getting very passionate about football and knowing that you're a Cowboys fan,

and that's always hard. That will definitely draw a man to drinking. My update on the Cowboys, fellas, we don't have any defense the Parsons trade it pissed me off not that Parsons actually got traded it's just what we we could have got a hell of a lot better of a deal

if we would have said we were going to trade him earlier on in the year rather than the first week before the season but yeah we're going to have a hell of a good offense but we sure as hell ain't going to stop anybody this year so it'll be a lot of fun back and forth games but we ain't going to go to the we're definitely not going to the super

Super Bowl and we probably will get knocked out of the playoffs if we even make it. That's my prediction on the Cowboys this year. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's all right. Hey, I've got, I mean, I've lived it since I was, I mean, I haven't. I've gone through all the eight and eights. I've gone through all the Tony Romo, ties and lows. I've gone through it all.

I may have told, I mean, we've probably told this story before, but, you know, I, I had the benefit of growing up with the tail end. Like, as a little kid, I remember the stall back years. the Tom Landry and then obviously the glory days of the Cowboys but

it is it's hard it's hard being a Cowboys fan and Sorre and I we just talked about this not very long ago I was telling somebody I don't remember what year it was

that you and I went to Texas stadium to the new stadium AT&T the AT&T Stadium and it was the year that they beat the Seahawks to go to the playoffs no they were in

That was a playoff game. They've always gotten, that was the first time they'd won the first round of the playoffs and I don't know how long. Yeah. And I'm telling you, the bar as a Cowboys fan is so low. When that game was over, the section we were sitting in, and we flew down there, went to my brothers, and then went to the game, we didn't know anybody. I think I got hugged by every single person in that section. And the party outside went, we had to get our Uber and get back because we were flying.

line out the next morning. But I mean, the party went on after the game longer than the pregame, I think. Oh, yeah. That's how hungry Cowboys fans are. Oh, yeah. We are. For a win. I'm hung. I mean, I hope I see it in my lifetime. Yeah. I mean, I think Jerry just got to get out of there, but yeah, Jerry, the sad part is that when Jerry's gone, Stephen's going to pick up and he only knows what, what, what dad taught him. So it's going to be bad. Well, today, We have a bottle of Bardstown bourbon, and it's from their Discovery Series, 114 proof. It's mostly 12-year.

It has a breakdown. It's 65% 12-year. Actually, there's four different batches that are in it, and there's a little bit, I'd say there's about 20% of it that is 7-year. I actually got this bottle when I was down at Green River Distillery because Bardstown owns Green River, and that wasn't a very impressive cork pop there,

but we'll see what it, we'll see how it measures up. You want to trade me? Yep. And we have a, we're having these out of, a shout out to Casey Maxstead who brought us not only a bottle of cold zero but four really nice cold zero glasses with a bullet with a bullet on the side so let me see if I can get this back on the stand and hey you know what I've been meaning to do this for months we're getting some stuff off the list a guy from Texas that makes leather goods is called Cambridge they sent us a box

of these really nice coasters and some key rings and some other stuff. They hand-make leather stuff down there. Cambridge is the name of it. And we're real thankful for that. That was awful nice of them. They got some pretty sick coasters out of the deal. Yeah, they do a good job. They got some pretty neat stuff.

If you go online, search that, you can find them. What do you think? What does it smell like? Freedom. Smells like freedom. Yep. All right. It smells like whiskey.

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That's why you cleanse. 114 proof. That's why you cleanse your palate. I'm not going to lie. Even that's not too bad. That's got a really nice sweet. Sweet on the front end. Got some sweet notes to it.

Yeah, I don't mind that, actually. I like the flavor. It's got a sweet, it's got some sweet notes to it for sure. Yeah, it's definitely hot, but I don't think the burns too bad. There's a little bit of an afterburn, but it's hot. It's pretty hot. Yeah. And I'm not going to lie, I'm a little out of practice because we've been so busy.

We haven't really had, we really haven't had time to sit around and just contemplate life with a glass of whiskey. And I don't know. I don't think we've done it in a while. After harvest, we will for sure. Yeah, I'll start working on getting my winter coat going because. What would you rate that? Um, six, six and a half, seven. Seven.

I would give it a seven. Yeah, I was going to say six and a half seven. It's good. I don't know if I drink it on the rocks. Maybe with a fat ass, big ass ice cube in it. Yeah. But I'd probably mix it, honestly. Oh.

No? I don't know. You can mix whatever you want. Are you just saying that? Are you just saying that because it's Barstown? No. It wasn't that expensive. It wasn't that expensive a bottle.

Um, I would, I would mix it. I just, I don't even mix. The only, really the only thing that I do with whiskey anymore is I either drink it neat or I make an old fashion with it. Yeah. Unless it's crown. Crown.

Crown is my, I will mix Crown. And Coke. Yep. I will. If I'm, you know. Captain Coke, Crown Coke. Can't go wrong with that. It's a cheap, cheap option when you're at the bar.

Yep. Or a gathering. Well, folks, I think that's going to wrap it up for today. and any of you out there in the fields listening or watching, we wish you a happy, plentiful, safe harvest to you and yours. You know, this year is going to be, we've said it a million times, this year is going to be a marketing year,

but, you know, enjoy the time because it happens, you know, once a year getting in the fields. It's always a good feeling to get in there and get it done. And, you know, can't feed the world without the farmers. So it's pretty awesome that we're always, all able to keep doing this and it's a blessing to be a farmer even through all the hard shit and even through the uncertainty of where we're at and ag and what what it looks like we're all trying to figure out where to go but just got to keep fighting the fight and yeah I just hope

you guys are hanging in there and it's looking good coming in on the yield monitor um hopefully you don't have too many grain spills nobody's overflowing the wagons or the semis too much you'll have a bit of that. I already overflowed one just a little bit. Well, you got to work out the kinks. We're all a little rusty, you know. I just thought the corn, I wasn't sure how dry it was. I thought I could pile it just a little bit higher and it

you'll do it a few times and then you'll be like, all right, I know my limit. I know my, you'll get your timing down. Well, I just try to do, I just try to run enough of them over that you guys say, all right, dad, just go unload wagons. We'll take care of it. Okay. Well, that's good.

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