Barn Talk - Inside the Iran Bombing: Military Moves, Global Tensions, and American Reactions

Episode Date: June 27, 2025

In this Hot Topics episode, Tork and Sawyer pull back the curtain on a whirlwind of current events that have everyone talking. From the latest on the Iran bombings and what it could mean for global stability, to some market updates and inside scoops on life in the meat business, the guys tackle the big questions with their signature blend of humor, skepticism, and straight talk. They break down complex geopolitical issues, share personal insights on everything from corn-on-corn farming lessons to the true cost of groceries, and even reflect on the broader implications for America’s future. Whether you’re here for the hard-hitting opinions, the farm stories, or just to keep your finger on the pulse of what’s happening in the world, you’ll find plenty to chew on in this episode. So grab your coffee—or your steak—and settle in. Let’s get into the thick of it. Shop Farmer Grade 👇🏻 https://farmergrade.com/  SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST ➱ https://bit.ly/3a7r3nR   SUBSCRIBE TO THIS’LL DO FARM ➱ https://bit.ly/2X8g45c  LISTEN ON: SPOTIFY ➱ https://open.spotify.com/show/3icVr4KWq4eUDl7Oy60YMY  APPLE ➱ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/barn-talk/id1574395049 Follow Behind The Scenes👇🏻 ● This’ll Do Farm Instagram ➱ https://bit.ly/30KPBNk   ● Barn Talk TikTok ➱ https://bit.ly/3qciekS   ● Sawyer’s Instagram  ➱ https://bit.ly/3BtX0n4   ● Tork’s Instagram ➱ https://bit.ly/3LGZJxS    00:00 Improving BBQ Temp Control 09:49 "Tesla's AI Future: Top Potential" 11:26 Alternative Financing with Contera 18:28 "Farming Wisdom and Market Choices" 24:06 Cornfield Challenges and Climate Resilience 28:45 Sponsoring Terrorists and Enriching Uranium 32:59 Three Sites Hit with Missiles 41:17 Balanced Reporting by Preston Stewart 45:44 Israel's Precision Strategy Against Iran 49:13 Middle East Commercialization & U.S. Involvement 53:54 Israel Military Strategy Context 01:03:27 Disillusionment with War and Government 01:04:29 Questioning Government Transparency and Intentions 01:12:16 Bitcoin vs. Dollar Debate 01:18:13 Mystery: Chinese Flight to Tehran 01:20:29 Tesla's Strategy Amid Government Spending 01:25:30 Economic Crisis and Budget Cuts Warning 01:33:46 Create Positive Impact Locally ------------------------------- ⚠NO FINANCIAL ADVICE / DISCLAIMER⚠  The Information discussed and shared on Barn Talk is provided for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes only, without any express or implied warranty of any kind, including warranties of accuracy, completeness, or success for any particular purpose. The Information contained in or provided from or through this podcast is not intended to be and does not constitute financial advice, investment advice, trading advice, or any other advice. The Information on this podcast and provided from or through our content is general in nature and is not specific to you, the user or anyone else. You should not make any decision, financial, investment, trading or otherwise, based on any of the information presented on this podcast without undertaking independent due diligence and consultation with a professional, professional broker or financial advisory. Understand that you are using any and all Information available on or through this website at your own risk. RISK STATEMENT– The trading of Bitcoins, alternative cryptocurrencies, NFTs, individual stocks, etc. has potential rewards, and it also has potential risks involved. Trading may not be suitable for all people. Anyone wishing to invest should seek his or her own independent financial or professional advice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All of the food we eat and much of the clothing we wear comes from plants and animals that are raised on farms. Farms are different in type, in size, and even in name. Welcome to Barn Talk. What happens at the barn stays in the barn, but not today. We're going to let it all out for you guys. Today is going to be a hot topics episode. Got a lot of stuff going on in the world, a lot of stuff going on in the country that everybody's got an opinion about and so do we. So we're going to strap some shit on to you today. Hopefully it's good.

And if you related to us on something, if you laughed at something, if you think that what we have to say is valuable, all that we ask that you do is share the show with the people that you know. It's kind of the ticket to admission to watch or listen to the show. Another thing you can do to help support us here at Barn Talk is leave a review on Spotify or Apple. The more that you guys do that, the more it makes our show credible so we can have some more guests come on the show and strap some crap on us. Last thing you can do to support us here at BarnTalk is support our direct consumer meat business, Farmergrade, farmergrade.com. You can always use code BarnTalk to save 10% off your order. I always add new stuff to the site, so be looking out for that. But got beef, got chicken, got pork, got Wagyu, got everything.

So we appreciate the hell out of all you for your support. Last episode with Millennial Farmer was a damn good one. And I think you all enjoyed that a lot like we did. I thought that was one of our best podcasts to date. So we just got to keep the momentum rolling. And Fourth of July is coming soon. Yep. So you probably ought to get yourself some porterhouse or ribbyes

and show up your neighbors and strap it on them and have the good stuff. Don't hold back. That's a great holiday celebrating this great country. What are you going to cook? uh, porter houses. I'm going to, I'm going to, uh, I'm going to have to actually bite the bullet because those are packaged so well. I haven't been able to get any of them to break the seal. So I'm going to have to pay full price on those. But we're going to hang out with some, uh, friends for the fourth of July. And I think I'm going to have a couple, uh, I don't know how many porter houses,

whatever the, whatever the budget will, uh, allow. And I'm going to reverse sear those puppies and, uh, let people experience, uh, some, uh, some, uh, quality farmer grade beef. I think it'll be a spiritual experience for a lot of my friends. So I'm looking forward to it. Well, yeah, we appreciate it. That's a good. That'll be a good one.

That's probably the best way you can get somebody hooked. Yep. Yeah. Once you have that, there's a little bit of time involved. But once you've had a steak that's done right like that, it'll pretty much about ruin you for any other way. Yeah. But, I mean, there is some time.

There's something to be said for just being able to throw. throw a steak on the grill, season that puppy up. And, you know, as long as you don't overcook it, it's going to be good. But that reverse sear, that's a game changer. That's a whole different deal. So I got a Weber Smoky Mountain as my first smoker. I wanted to get something different because dad's got a trigger. And so I was like, do I want to get a pellet grill? A pellet grill probably wouldn't have been better for my lifestyle because I got too much stuff going on. But I wanted to kind of find that happy medium between an offset and a pellet smoker. And this is, I don't know if you even call it a drum or a gravity smoker,

whatever you call it. But whatever Smoky Mountain, I did my first cook on it. I did a pork butt. Had a bitch controlling my temps. I had to go out there and adjust my vents constantly. And I think part of the reason was I was using lump charcoal. And those pieces of charcoal, those lump charcoal, it's, it varies in sizes. so you, I feel like I would have the cooker rise in temp and then fall in temp and rise in temp and fall,

just depending on what chunks got lit. And also, I probably didn't put enough charcoal in there to start to go through the whole cook. So I had to add some. So yeah, it was a good experience, but I'm hoping that I just get better with it and I can find a way to control my temp. So people do say that the Weber Smoky Mountain, once you get a hang of it, it holds temp pretty good. So we'll see. But I do like the smoky flavor that it puts on. It's damn good.

So I'm hoping to smoke some ribs, I think, for the 4th of July. Hang some ribs in that smoky mountain. Do a few racks, maybe some chicken wings. I don't know. We'll see. But looking forward to it, it's going to be a good time. I'm going to have some people over. Yeah. It's like most things in life.

Trial and error will get you a long ways. Yep. Yep. And I, this, yeah, I like barbecue and so I enjoy it. I don't think I want to have like my whole day committed to it. Like I was like that when I did my pork butt. I was just out there messing with those temps all the time. But I think I'll get to the point where I'll get it figured out. So I already know what I'm going to try to do next time to improve. So there you go. There you go. Always have a point. plan? Well, amongst all of the things going on in the great United States and around the world today, the markets are moving, so we might as well do a market update, courtesy of our good friends at Contera Ag. Corn for July, 420, down a little bit from the weekend close. December corn, 441. Locally, 423 or 420.

and Cedar Rapids. Beans for July 1062, November 1061, 1038 and ADM. And get this. Quincy, Illinois must have finally gotten enough beans or else they're broke down because their bid was 1026 and their bid is never lower than this side of the river. So I don't know what's going on over there. It's Illinois, so who knows. Bean mill July 284 a ton.

Wheat, 567. Hogs, July, $112. The board must have known that it was about time for us to be on the market of buying some hogs because it's just taken off. Like the three nearby months for hogs is all over $100. Cattle for June. I think actually that's a faux pa on my part. I think that's the July number, 223. It's tough owning a meat business right now. Yeah, I bet it is. I bet it is. paying on both sides feeder cattle for august three hundred and two dollars a hundred weight uh crude oil uh i am really surprised we're we're recording this on uh monday morning the what

the 23rd and uh oil uh 74 dollars and i think that's going to be that's a number that you need to watch this week because it's going to be really interesting because somewhere There's a lot of people that are sitting in rooms that are trying to decide what the danger premium to everything going on in the Middle East is. Because what is it? 20% of the world's oil goes through the Strait of Hormuz, but 50% of the oil that the Chinese import moves through there. and this is interesting. Did you know that it's like 5 or 7% of the oil that gets refined in California moves through the Strait of Hormuz because it's purchased from Iraq? And California, now the rest of the United States is different,

but California imports about 5% of their oil and it comes from the Strait of Hormuz. So you're already paying way too much in California and you could pay more depending on how this all plays out. And we'll get into that as we start talking about everything. Bitcoin, $102. So it was interesting because Bitcoin was starting to move back. It was like $108, $109. $102,000.

Yeah, $102,000 a coin. And it was moving back higher. And then all this chaos broke out and it dropped. It actually got down, I think it got down to 99. and then it worked up was 104, and it's sitting right about 102, 103 right now. Tesla, Tesla had their first, this weekend, they had their first robotaxies running in Austin.

Did you hear about that? I did not hear about that. They turned them loose. Now, they weren't pure robotaxing the fact that they actually had the city of Austin geo-fenced, similar to what Waymo does. But it was literally just kind of a test to make sure that the system could handle it and no chaos happened and went off without a hitch.

So Tesla this morning was up 5% last time I checked. So $354 a share. If this goes well and they start rolling this out across the country, watch out because Tesla is going to go. and another interesting thing I'll throw out there about Tesla was I was listening to All In Podcast and I can say this because I don't have a big ego. All in podcast is like my pre-show, like my show prep because those guys pretty sharp. They talk about a lot of subjects I'm interested in, but they were talking about AI and

they all asked each other who they thought five years from now were the top one and two players in the AI space. And Tesla was one or two in every one of those due to the fact that not only are they working hard on the software and Grok is there. Didn't call it Gronk today. I'm getting better. You are getting better.

But they also are one of the few that actually has the hardware. They make their own chips. They are good with the hardware. as far as integrating that, it can be integrated into the cars. It can be integrated into the bots. And so they are in a great position to prosper as AI evolves, which I thought that was good. So if you're a Tesla stockholder, just keep the faith. You'll be fine. Gold, as you can imagine, is $3,400 because a lot of uncertainty in the world. even the silver market's getting drug up to $33 an ounce.

30-year treasuries, 485, 10-year 432, all of that, courtesy of our good friends at Contara, contera ag.com. And I'll just say, if you're a guy out there and you are in a unique situation, and many of us farmers are as we diversify and try to figure out what the heck we're going to do, your traditional bank may not be the best, may not be the best option, or you may feel like that you're not getting, you're not being heard. And if so, I would highly recommend you place on a call or emailing our good friends at Contera because that's right up their alley. And they have a different way of looking at operations, and they're very strong on their

one-on-one relationship. And so, hey, give them a try. Contaraag.com. That's it. Well, I was going to add something because I told you that from now on, I'm going to try to add some meat news that's going on because I'm in the meat business. So not a whole lot of crazy shit going on in the meat business.

Man, there's always a lot of lawsuits, though. There's always plants getting shut down, you know, ice. They rated a plant in Omaha. Maple Leaf Foods is trying to become the most sustainable protein company on Earth. They've cut their scope 1 and 2 emissions by 15.6%. And they're all about the sustainability. They're out of Canada. But then there's, this was an interesting thing that I thought.

Campbell's Food Company, you know, Campbell's Soup and, all that reported a surge in home-cooked meals in its third quarter physical 2025 earnings reaching levels not seen since early 2020 driven by economic uncertainty and consumer belt tightening the CEO noted a 15% sales growth in meals and beverage division with six percent organic growth fueled by 7% rise and volume slash mix particularly in U.S. soup and reo pasta sauces. So looks like it's kind of nice. You know, everybody has the, everybody has the feeling that everyone's trying to cook at home more because shit's too expensive and there's uncertainty going on. But those are real numbers from a pretty notable food brand out there that's seeing spikes in sales since five years ago.

Yeah. So I thought that was kind of interesting. That totally doesn't surprise me. Yeah. Every time that I go with Trisha to the grocery store, I'm like, I'm, when we put, she puts all the food on the, on the conveyor belt. And then I step up there and she looks at me and she goes, I'm just going to go on out. And I, I stand there. And then I pay for it.

And I'm like, dang. There's no going to the grocery store at this point and not spending $200. It is. It's ridiculous. You're going to break 200 probably every time. And then the other side of that is when you do go out, the prices are, I mean, they're high. And understandably so, because labor's high.

And if you're buying beef or whatever you're buying, it's high. But, you know, our little town has an ice cream shop. And, I mean, it's crazy what the cost of a scoop of ice cream on a cone is. And a lot of that in their case is probably because of labor, just because to get people to work what it's costing you. So, yeah, eating at home, we all talk about it. We all say we should do it. But apparently, more and more of this are doing it.

And that's probably going to be more so as we go forward because nothing's getting cheaper. Yeah, outside of that, there's really not a whole lot of great news. Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. But sorry for taking a week, guys, of posting. We had kind of a shit week last week. It was busy. but our Facebook account for Barn Talk and this will do farm, our pages got hacked. So they got hacked and we lost control of them.

We still don't have control of them. And we're trying to work to get them back is kind of the deal. So that kind of was the fire that started last week. And so we're still trying to figure it out and try to get our Facebook pages back because we had a lot of people that watched clips on there, and we had a pretty good following on Facebook on both those pages. So it sucks that we might end up losing them. And Facebook, meta sucks when it comes to getting a hold of anybody.

Like they just, they make it so it's pretty much impossible to get any customer support whatsoever. But if you see a page that you follow, if you followed us on Facebook at all, and you see a page that you followed or liked, and you're like, I don't remember ever liking this page or following this page and you look at it, it might end up being our page and they rebranded it as something else.

But there's some crooked motherfuckers out there. There really is. I mean, there just are some crooked motherfuckers that are low-life scumbags that just want to screw people over. It sucks. Yeah, it was, and that's just such a,

you know, I can't really describe the feeling of it because, you know what, we'll start again. We may be able to get them back. I mean, we know some people. We work with some people that are fairly connected within meta that they may be able to help us. And we may, if nothing else, get it stopped that they can't, you know, they can't use that page.

I don't know if we'll get them back or not. And if we don't, you know, we'll start again. it's just very, very frustrating. And last week was just, it was a burger. We were working hard. We had a lot of stuff going on. And we were supposed to go to her good friend Jason Mock's Field Day out in Indiana. And we were supposed to leave early Friday morning, go out there.

And this all pretty much broke Wednesday, Thursday. And long story, longer. We didn't end up going. So I apologize to Jason. I sent him a message. I'm sure it was a great. Looked like it was a great turnout and they had some great speakers there. We would really like to have been there.

But it just wasn't in the card. So back to the grindstone. Delt a shit sandwich. But that's the reason why we missed last week because it, shit happens, man. Shit happens. And the, yeah, train got off the tracks a little bit. But we're back and we're ready to strap some shit on you.

before we go down what everybody's talking about, I do want to, I meant to say this at the end of the market update because this is kind of market related. I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you a little wisdom that I learned firsthand this year, this growing season. You know, when you're farming and you are blessed enough

to have pretty good dirt and plenty of hog, manure. I think you have a tendency, at least I have. You get a little cocky and you think that you can really whatever you do, it's going to work, going to work good. And this spring, and I can say this now because side dressing and hot weather and sunshine and rain have made my crops look way better. But many of you know that I, that we quit. We said no beans this year. We're not going to grow soybeans. The economic of soybeans is trash,

and the weed control is getting too expensive. So he said, piss on it. We're going to plant all corn on corn. So this year would have been the first year that we have three-year corn on corn. And many of you that are in, that our farming know that this last winter was not a good winter for stocks breaking down. So we had a lot of trash. we got out there and started i was like dang um this these stocks have not broken down very well and that was even after we ran the bestler and we drag lined our manure and still a lot of trash

it just didn't break down and um we went ahead i mean we planted all our corn 28th and 29th and was feeling good about it uh we got a rain and you know everything came up but then Then it was like every day I would drive by and I'd be like, man, that corn's uneven. Man, that corn doesn't look good. And you go out there and across that field, very uneven growth, places where it emerged late, getting through the trash, and just like, boy, I don't know, this doesn't look good. and clear up until the time that I side-dressed. And I side-dress late for this area because my corn just wasn't coming around.

And I had my pioneer agronomist out and look at it, and he told me what I already suspected. But, you know, I should have probably put on some nitrogen with some sulfur with the planter, or else I should have put some on with my pre-emergence spray, but I got cocky. One, I didn't want to spend the time when we were planting because we wanted to get it done. And two, I was like, oh, it'll be fine, you know,

we'll side dress it, it'll be good. Well, I can tell you another year I probably won't do that. I will definitely either put some on with the planner or make sure that I get like 40 pounds of nitrogen with some sulfur on with the spray because it just did not look good. Now then, it's been in the 90s. It's been warm and it's going to be warm the next few days. We got some really nice rains and, man, all this corn's popped.

If you walked out there today and looked at it, it's really a lot of the unevenness. It's caught up and you'd go, oh, yeah, this looks pretty good. I'll tell you what, I feel like I've been schooled a little bit that in hindsight, you're like, yeah, dumbass, you know, you know, looking, walking out there, walking through that field before we planted, I should have said to myself, self, you better get, you better get some sulfur out here, you better get some nitrogen out here. but you know you get cocky and you think oh yeah we'll be fine and i think it will be okay but i don't know what my yield i don't know how much yield i've given up right now i feel like oh yeah

it's going to be fine and that's the story i tell myself but uh another year i won't make that mistake again so do you feel like you could also just try to like would you think about telling a little bit and incorporating that getting rid of that trash yeah You don't have to go probably very deep, but I'm just, you could either put more nitrogen earlier or maybe just try to break the trash down. Well, and so that's the, that's the kind of the question. And how often do you have to do that? Do you have to do that every year?

Do you just do that on the third year? Because you know there's just going to be too much trash out there? Well, I think if we're going to continue down this road that we're going to go corn on corn because we have the manure to do it and the economics of growing soybeans aren't very good. which this would be the time where I would come back from Jason's field day and go, oh, yeah, we're going to do da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And he's got it figured out and all that, but we didn't go. So I can't say that.

But I went out there yesterday and it's blazing hot. The last three days have all been up in the 90s. Today's, I mean, this whole week's going to be hot. It's hot right now. Yeah, I mean, it's going to be a deal. So you go out there and you walk through that field. So that that was a hindrance, with corn emerging was all that trash.

But when you go out there now and it's blazing hot, the sun's beating down, I'm thinking to myself, you know when it quits raining, and we all know it's going to quit raining, well, then you look at it and go, man, I'm sure glad I got all this cover out here because that's really going to help hold that moisture

and it's really going to protect that corn. So am I going to be out the first week in August and my corn looks better than everybody else is at tilled? I don't know. And that's the thing. You could go out there and till that, but do you really want to burn all that up? Do you really?

I mean, we've worked really hard at going no-till, and we're not a true no-till. And like David, he has that strip-till machine, and I feel like he's still getting the kinks worked out of that. he wasn't super happy with how his how his corn look coming out and he didn't feel like he could get he could get the results that he wanted consistently and i mean he'll figure it out because he's the kind of guy he figures stuff out he'll he'll keep working on that machine so i don't know i mean i think if i was to do anything in another year if i go out there and we have a winner where the stocks don't

break down and you got heavy trash maybe we try, maybe we take a field and half of it, we strip till it and we see what happens. And maybe that's the way we go. But at the same time, if you can give that crop what it needs to get it up and get it going, I feel like over the growing season, that trash, that cover really helps you, pays you dividends. I don't know. so but I do know that I won't do what I did this year again yeah well that's part of it yeah school of hard knocks yep trial and error and then my memory's poor so we'll do it this way

for how many years and then we'll forget why we're doing it and then that's when you're supposed to be sharp enough remind me and go oh yeah I don't think I'd do that dad remember when you blah blah and I'll be like journal you got to write down I should have a journal well I do have a journal how much stuff can you write down I don't know I need to put it well that might be an important thing two right now. Unless you learn how to, unless you unlearn how to read, then we're really in trouble.

Oh, I'm safe on that. I'm safe on that, I think. Yeah, good, good. So what else is going on? Well, uh, the United States said, fuck you and went and bombed Iran's nuclear, uh,

bomb, bomb sites, I guess. So those places that they bombed were those where they were building the bombs, were those where they were keeping, like, did they really classify what that is?

Yeah. So the one that everybody's talking about because... Because that's not where they held them. No, and... Because that would be bad. Well, and, okay, so back up, nobody is saying that Iran had nuclear missiles, nuclear-tipped warheads built.

What they were trying to do, So clear back, go clear back to, I don't know, Clinton after Reagan. And even maybe Reagan, well, yeah, because Reagan came into office after Iran took all those hostages at the American embassy. So really go back to Carter. At the beginning of the Carter administration is where Iran overthrew the ruler that they had. And that is when the Ayatollah Khomeini, who was in, he was living in France because he had been exiled. That is when he came back and this whole movement started and where Iran kind of became, went down the path that it's been on today. And that's when they said, basically, FU, America, because we were propping up the Shah.

The guy that was leading Iran at the time, we were propping him up. and when he was overthrown, relations with the United States went to pot. But then shortly thereafter is where the Iranians decided that they were going to go counter to everybody else, and they started sponsoring terrorists all over the world. And they were the big player in trying to snuff out Israel. And so they pretty much became our enemy and a lot of people's enemies. and a lot of people's enemy, and this has gone on for a long time.

And their goal has been to produce weapons-grade uranium. And weapons-grade uranium is more pure than what uranium is like you were going to use in a nuclear power plant. So they have these, they're called a centrifuge, and they spin at a very high rate of speed, and you need a lot of them to process uranium to get it pure enough that you can use even in a power plant,

but the level of purity that you need for weapons-grade uranium is much higher. And so that's where all this back and forth has been, because they've been building all of this technology to purify uranium. And the outside world has been saying, okay, they're doing this and they're going beyond what you need for power plants. Their goal is to get to where they have weapons-grade uranium. Okay, so the site that was the one that got the most press

was this site that they had built and they built it almost 300 feet underground in a mountain. the idea being that it couldn't be destroyed because it was too far underground that you couldn't get a bunker buster missile in there to do it and um so seven uh b2 bombers so you have to drop two bombs so the so the united states has uh what they call a bunker buster bomb and it's a 30,000 pound uh bomb and it's a two it's a two part So you drop the first missile, and these are very accurate too. So what they were trying to hit was a ventilation shaft or multiple ventilation shafts, and those shafts were supposedly 10 foot square. So crazy shit, I mean, you seen Top Gun? I mean, this is like Top Gun is what it is, only without the G-Force and all that.

But, I mean, it's the same idea. They were trying to hit this ventilation shaft. but these bombs are supposedly accurate within the size of like a pop can. Jesus. But the first bomb drops. They're 30,000 pounds. Each one's 30,000 pounds, and a B2 bomber can carry two of them. So that's why you needed seven B2 bombers, and each one's carrying two.

And the first bomb drops, and it goes as deep as it can go, and it explodes, and it makes a cavity, the second bomb follows the same path, and then that's the one that goes up to 300 feet in the ground. And everybody's speculating whether or not it actually worked or it didn't work. Well, here's what I'm going to tell you. I will about guarantee it worked, because every report you talk about says these bombs can go up to 300 feet.

Well, I'm pretty sure that it's like everything the U.S. military says, they are going to tell you how deep they can really go. They're going to tell you, somebody somewhere said, ah, fuck, let's just say 300. They could go 500 feet and nobody's going to know it. It's not like the military is going to play off their hand and say, oh, yeah, this is exactly what it can do. My guess is that they probably can go deeper than what everybody's saying

and that that facility is completely destroyed. but that facility was the crown jewel of Iran's uranium refinement capability. The other two places that they hit, one of them was the old facility where they were doing this before they built the new one, and it has a lot of underground facilities, but not as deep as what the first one was. And then the third one was like a storage facility where I think, they were storing either uranium before it was refined or what they call the yellow cake that was refined, although they doubt whether that was refined enough.

But there's some question about that. But anyway, they hit these three sites. They dropped 14 of those bunker buster bombs on one site. They launched Tomahawk missiles out of submarines that were in the Gulf and hit the rest of them. But I'll tell you, the real, I mean, I think the real, I wouldn't say heroes of the deal because there are so many people that played an important part of it. And they kind of glossed over this, but if you think about it, this is kind of crazy. So they had F-22s and F-35s that were flying with those bombers that were basically going ahead of them. and then ahead of them they had drones flying because they wanted to make sure that if there was any air-to-air missiles

sites that the drones triggered them so they could see those electronics spool up and then the F-22s and the F-35s would take that out so that there was no chance that the bombers had to deal with anything like that. But they said there were 30 refueling tankers, what are. are they KC 35s, I think, are the refueling tankers? 30 of them. So it took 30 of these tankers to refill all of these planes that flew over there. So the bombers left from Missouri. They took off and flew from Missouri.

They refueled them. And I don't know how many times they had to refuel them, but it's a 33-hour round trip. So they took off from Missouri. They refueled them in the air? In the air. And the United States, I think, is the only country that can do this. But they refueled them, and they didn't refuel them like once.

They refueled them like multiple times. So the planning that had to go into this, you had to get those tankers stationed around the world and ready to go at a moment's notice. And then plan that all out so that they were in the air at the time they needed to be to be able to refuel those bombers. and they did a great job because they launched, what was it, four, they had like four B-2s that took off from that same base the day before, and they flew west, and they flew to Guam, and now then they have landed in Guam, and everybody was talking about that.

And so the Iranians thought, well, if anything is going to happen, it's going to happen after these planes, go to Guam, and they'll refuel them, and then they'll load them with the missiles, and then we may have to deal with this. So that was a distraction. Oh, it was a total distraction. And then these other planes took off and flew east. And my guess is they must have had their transponders off

because nobody knew that they were headed over there. And so, and nobody talked about it. And there's a bunch of people on Capitol Hill, mostly Democrats, that are all pissed off that nobody informed them. Well, if you're in leadership in the United States government and nobody told you, my guess is the reason they didn't tell you is because they probably don't trust you.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure AOC would be the last fucking person on earth that is going to get a defense department briefing because if I had to pick one person that's going to go blow her mouth off about anything she knows, probably her. Yeah. So it doesn't surprise me one bit that nobody knew.

Well, and the speed, it just slows things down. Yeah, exactly. Trump like speed. Yeah. So. And I think the military like speed too. Yeah. They want to,

they, I think they get tired of the fucking bullshit. Yeah. Let's just do this thing. Well, and then another thing about that coordination was, so the bombs, the bunker buster bombs that were dropped,

they were dropped first. And within 15 minutes of them dropping those, all those Tomahawk missiles hit, the other sites. And that was by design because they didn't want those tomahawks to hit before the bombs were dropped

because they didn't want anybody to know that they were there. And so it was successful because the planes came in and they dropped their bombs and then they were headed out as the tomahawks hit those other sites. So they did not have any idea

that it was coming and they didn't have any idea that those planes were left. there. And so as far as a, as far as like a military operation, I, flawless. Pretty much about as flawless as you can get. And so, um, pretty impressive. So, okay. So nobody believes that they have what, nukes. They never got to the point where they had nukes built or do they? So that's the, it's like, that's the question. Because they've been doing and talking about this for years and developing it for years. Did they?

ever figure it out? Does anybody know they actually figured it out? Do they have a nuke? Do they not? Did this actually like, because if they already have the nukes, I mean, good, you stop the production, but a nuke's a nuke. Yeah. So, well, and there's really two parts of this. So at the same time that Iran has been trying to develop weapons grade uranium, they've also been working on their ballistic missile program. Because it's one thing to have a warhead. By the way, how the fuck do you know? all this. Have you just been digging this shit or what? Well, a little

bit, but I mean, this is going on this has been going on like just knowing everything about the operation. I mean, geez, you really. I've watched a lot. I've been watching a lot. I mean, I knew a little bit about the, like I knew that they flew out of Missouri. I knew it was successful.

I knew they got refueled. I knew that they hit the big one. But damn, you really straps some shit on us here. Just chat a little bit because I want to get this right. I want to. Yeah.

This is progress. Tork is fact checked at himself. He's making sure he's got the facts. I want to give credit to this guy because he does a really good job. Let's just see if I can find him. Of course. Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, it was a flawless execution on our military.

I guess my only thing is. is like this is great if they don't have any nukes. And I mean, maybe they do, but does, I don't know, I heard, I heard, you know, Trump or his team talk about, you know, they would be, for us to do this, come in, execute it without them knowing, I mean, it shows strength. And if Iran has any brains at all, if even if they had nukes, they should probably know not to retaliate because we kind of, I mean, they had no idea that it hit them,

and that's just the power of the U.S. military. But, I mean, I hope that they don't retaliate. That's my big thing. I mean, when I first saw the news, I'm not going to lie, it was like, well, World War III is kicking off. But if your society, if your belief system is that there's no more honorable way to die than killing the infidel,

well, what's that? You know, like, how powerful is that? So do you feel like they're not going to stop then? I think, no, I don't think. If that's the most honorable way to die, don't you think that they're like, well, fuck them, we're going to still hit them? Well, it, so the thing about just about every country in the Middle East is

they're, and this, okay, before I get into that, I want to say, so this guy's name is Preston Stewart, and he's on TikTok, and I just really like how he does his kind of his reporting. And he's very, he tries to be very, I'd say equal or open-minded. In other words, he's going to tell you what other people are reporting from different points of view. Like, he talks about what the Iranians are saying, you know, what the Palestinians are saying, what Russia media is saying.

He doesn't just give you one point of view. Like mainstream media is going to give you one point of view. Fox News is just going to give you clips of the news conference and have their experts on that are just going to say the same stuff and it's all their point of view, which is fine. I mean, you know what you're getting. But there's a lot of people out there that give you a really different point of view or other, it may not be their point of view,

but it's, they're, they're picking up other points of view and other reporters and other news agencies, what they're saying. And, you know, it helps you kind of, gives you a little better view of the world. So another guy that I follow is, his nickname's Mr. Global. And his view of this is very interesting

because his whole worldview is shaped by his career in the oil and gas business. And so when we're talking about the straight-of-hor moves in the next few weeks, that's a guy that has a really interesting point of view because he knows how it affects oil production and how the price of oil is going to move because of all this and the things that go into motivating these countries. But to what you said about, you know, are they going to stop? And I just had this conversation with Trisha this morning.

In our country, there is just a shitload of people that they really believe, because I hear this say all the time, I hear people say this all the time, that people are the same wherever you go. We all want the same thing. You know, everybody wants to just be able to raise their family and just get along and da-da-da-da. Well, that's not true. That's not true at all. That's true in your mind and your world and the people that you see.

It's true in this country. I mean, for the most part. If you haven't lived in the Middle East or wherever in the world you're talking about, that doesn't mean that that's what they believe. And there's a hell of a lot of people in the Middle East that you can be the nicest guy in the world, but if your great, great, great, great grandfather

killed my great, great, great grandfather or someone in my family, I'm going to kill you, and I don't care if it takes me five generations to do it, I'll hold a grudge that long. Okay, those religious sex, and the other thing is, these, you know, these are all Muslims, right? Well, no, they're not all Muslims. There is a whole genre of different religious sex within all of these countries.

And right now, Iran is controlled by, and somebody will correct me, on this, but the mullahs, that's a religious sect. They are hardcore as shit. Those people would gladly let that country burn to the ground if it meant that they could nuke Israel off the face of the earth, because in their mind, they're going to heaven and they're going to have 150 virgins or whatever. You know, they are the hardcore, kill the ill, infidel. Well, there's a pile of people in Iran that do not feel that way. And those are the people that have been oppressed ever since like 1979 when the Shah was overthrown. So to your question is it's very uncertain. So Israel, and I can't stress this enough, I mean, the operation that Israel pulled as far as the

precision at which they have taken out all of Iran's air defense and the way they're systematic, dramatically dismantling their ability to launch missiles into Israel is that in and among itself is pretty amazing before you get to what the United States did because a lot has been said about how many ballistic missiles Iran has. They have thousands of them. But most all the missiles they have aren't like the missiles in the United States that are sitting in, you know, a launch base out in the middle of South Dakota or whatever. These are all missiles that have to be loaded into a mobile launcher. They have to be loaded on a truck. And then the truck has to be driven and set up and then they launch them off that truck. And then the truck goes back and it gets more

missiles and then it launches again. Well, here's the problem. You can have two, three thousand missiles. but if somebody systematically blows up every one of your missile launch trucks, your missiles now become useless because you can't launch them. And that's what Israel has been trying to do. So all of that to say, it is a wildcard, whether or not the Iranians, one, will do anything as far as trying to get... I mean, I'm not so damn sure they couldn't get a nuke from North Korea if they wanted to. Who knows?

Maybe the Chinese one. play the spoiler in this. The Chinese, that's the scary part. I mean, they're kind of, the government, our government's kind of playing it off like, oh, Iran would be stupid to retaliate. They're not going to retaliate because we just showed, we just showed

how big our balls are. Yeah. And how good of a military we have. Well, that's not really a great, I don't, that's not a good enough explanation for me. Because that's like, great, but you're, to your point, China, Russia, uh, North Korea,

I mean, China wants Taiwan. If World War III kicks off, they'd love to go get Taiwan. They'd love to go make a move there. I don't know. And then you think about all the people we let in under the Biden administration. You can't tell me that there's not sleepers. Terror cells in America that stand with Iran. And they probably just saw what happened.

And they're fucking pissed off. And they're ready to fucking do something. Yeah. And that's my whole thing, and I've said this so many times, I hate the whole war mongering, beating on the war drum of let's go to war, let's go to war, let's go to war. Because Afghanistan, Iraq, our whole goal going over there was to kill Osama bin Laden. That took over a decade. And we ended up going over there, spending a fuckload of money, printing a fuckload of money. and really didn't get a whole lot done outside.

I mean, we left after 20 years, left all our shit over there. Yeah, we killed Osama bin Laden, but we got tied up with a bunch of other bullshit that we didn't probably need to get tied up. And a whole lot of people died. A whole lot of our men and women went over there and fought a war for what? And now you got Osama bin Laden's son.

Yeah, you didn't. Yeah, right. It was taken up the mantra. Yeah. And also, you know, like they kind of commercialized the Middle East a little bit. I mean McDonald's got built. Like shit got built over there that they prospered on, not just selling weapons and selling tanks and selling,

you know, the mill and dairy industrial complex profited big time. But there's also a lot of other shit that got built over there that was because that we were over there. And so I just, I just, I get worried because I, just don't like the idea of us go and fight in somebody else's fight

and I don't like the idea of the military industrial complex getting us in another conflict because they want to profit. Now, you know, if our life, if our existence as a country is on the line,

you got to do what you got to do? You got to do what you got to do. That's another thing. And I think that America does need to be involved. We do have to somewhat keep things at bay across the world. We got to keep our presence in foreign policy with other countries because we are a powerful nation. But I just, I don't know, man, I don't know, it worries me.

It does. And I don't want a World War III. I don't think anybody wants that because we're the most advanced we've ever been in the entire world across the board. There's bigger bombs. You can be more stealthier than ever before. A lot of fucked up shit can happen, you know, and that's the thing that worries me. The problem with the world is...

And I thought, last thing I'll say, I thought Trump, I'm not very, I'm kind of a little not pissed off, but it seems like Trump was all about make American first, America first, America first, America first. And he comes out of the spending bill, right? We're going to, we're going to take the, you know, deficit and all that. We're going to level the playing field. We're going to try to get this debt under control. We're going to try to quit adding to the deficit and somehow, you know,

start paying down that debt. Well, comes out of the spending bill. And then the idea of, okay, let's, we're going to focus on us. We're going to get this conflict between Ukraine and Russia under control. I'll have it done in what, two weeks. I'll have it done. I'll have this war ended. And I'm going to have peace across everywhere, you know. And maybe he will. Maybe this was just a strategic move that he feels like is going to make that happen.

But to me, it's uncertain that, I mean, and the other thing is like Osama bin Laden's son or whatever, how he's going to hold a grudge and he's going to hate America for the rest of his life and he'll probably try to do something about it. Well, Iran's the same way. okay, this, maybe this doesn't kick off right now, but is it going to kick off when I'm 50 or when I'm 45 because what we did 20 years ago?

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was it critical that we go over there and we blow them fuckers up? Or was it just a statement? Was it a statement to show, don't fuck with us, stop fucking with Israel? Let's put this to bed. Well, I think that on the, at first glance or whatever at the top,

Israel totally believed and still does believe that Iran's intention was to get a nuke and use it against them. and their intelligence, which I will just say, if you're going to trust anybody's intelligence, it's been proven out over the last few years that by the shit that they've been able to pull off, that if Israeli intelligence tells you something,

they probably know. Okay, so let's go back to that. So why did they let a terrorist group just come over their wall? Yes. And fucking kill their citizens. if they're so intelligent, how'd they let that happen? Well, they fucked up. Or did they want that to happen?

Well, that's the question because... If they're so fucking smart, why would that happen then? Why would they let that happen? That's a really good argument. That's a really good argument. Because if you back up to that, if you back up to that, for what has happened over the last 10 days for that to happen, you have to back up

and there's a whole bunch of other things that have to happen and so Israel would have never been able I shouldn't say they wouldn't be able but the cost would have been much greater so if you didn't

crush Hezbollah if you didn't crush the Syrians if the United States and Israel didn't crush the Houthis in Yemen, it would be much more difficult for Israel to have gone to Iran and do what they have done because you basically have gotten rid of all the air defense in Syria, which Israel had to fly through to get there,

you had to get to the point that you weren't dealing with all of the proxies that Iran has been funding. And what you've seen since, what was that, November 8th or October 8th or whatever, whenever that whole deal happened that started Israel going into Gaza and crushing the proxies of Iran. But because those things have happened, now then Iran is probably in the weakest position. This is before Israel even launched these attacks on Iran. Iran from its ability to project terrorist power around the Middle East is at the weakest that it's ever been. And that's because of everything that Israel has done.

And the reason Israel has done that is because of what happened then. So you make a great argument. Well, it's almost like did they want to get their war drum beaten a little bit? Did they want, because I mean, I remember, I don't know who said it, but I remember watching a video of, I don't know if that was their. Netanyahu. It could have been him talking about how this is their 9-11. Yes, that was him. And it's like, it's like, okay, so you show us that your intelligence is really good and you're able to execute these amazing operations and take out.

Remember the pager attack? Yeah, pager attack. crazy. They're doing some crazy shit, but then you somehow allowed Hamas to just fly over your wall and attack you. Yeah. And it just makes you think like, did they want that to happen? And why? What do they want to gain? Are they just wanting to take out, what do they want to gain from it? Well, if you, so if you are two things, some people argue that if it wasn't for those attacks on Israel, Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu would be out of office because he was losing power and he was losing

the will of the people behind it. So some people argue that they let that happen to make him the hero. Because they need him. He is a military mind and he has been there. But then the other part is, okay, and this is something that we don't, like we don't, I would say one of the biggest, I don't know what do you want to call it. Fault of our political system is that we think so short-term as far as what happens in the world

because we turn over our president every four years, and if you're really lucky, you get a president for eight years, and if you're super lucky, you get that president, and then his, whoever he wants to continue what his political ideology is, maybe you get that 12 years but that's very unusual and things happen Israel so to your point were they planning this all along were they sitting there and they were thinking okay if we if we play this chess game to where we have the opportunity to crush all these proxies and then we push the agenda and instead of a wrong being able to say that we're going to wipe Israel off the map,

we flip the chart, and we wipe the mullahs off the chart in Iran. I don't know. And where does America come into that? Were they part of that plan? When did they get brought into that? Is that right now?

America has been that ever since 1979 because we, you don't remember because you weren't alive, what an embarrassment. Jimmy Carter was never going to win that presidency because he was an embarrassment. And people forget this. But I was a kid. You know, in 1979, it would have been eight years old. But I know for a fact that many people were embarrassed by the United States government

because we are not the people that leave hostages behind. And those hostages, they held the last of those hostages, they held 400 days, 400 and some days. and Ronald Reagan's the one that made that deal because Ronald Reagan said in back channels, when he got elected, he told him that if they aren't released by the time I'm inaugurated, I'm going to launch cruise missiles

and I'm going to level whatever. I mean, he basically said, you either release them or I'm going to drop hell all over you, and that's what happened. And Carter was a negotiator, and Carter thought he could negotiate it. And then we actually had a hostage rescue attempt and like three of the helicopters crashed in the desert and the the commandos died it was

it was a mess it was an embarrassment so from 1979 the united states of america's had a burr on their ass when it comes to iran and then iran has iran has personally it's been proven the money they've given or people they've trained i mean there's thousands of americans that have died directly from the money and the people that are the Iranians have trained. So the Americans have a serious burr on their ass for Iran, but the biggest thing about it is the prospect of them getting a nuclear weapon because they don't want to deal to deal with another North Korea. But to what you said when you started,

here is the problem that the United States has. We, after World War II, we basically were the only one standing that could, get Europe back on its fees, get the world back on its feet, get Japan back on its feet, and the way we did it was through trade. And we became the reserve currency in the world. And it was super prosperous for us. The United States became the most powerful nation in the world.

The problem with it is is at some point it's like you become, it's like you become Mormon. and you have every one of these countries is one of your girlfriends and every one of these countries is somewhere on that crazy hot scale and you got to fucking deal with every one of them and you got to make a plan and deal with them

and every four years every four years your preference for blonde versus brunette versus redhead changes because there's an election in the United States and that's really oversimplified that's the most bro bro science, bro. Well, but it's the fucking truth

because you, you've got like, okay, you take Great Britain. It is, it's good. Great Britain is like our steady. They're like our steady, you know? Everybody, they're like, yeah. But the Middle East, it's a crapshoot what you're going to get

because, and you're trying to, all you're trying to do at this point is keep a lid on the pot. Because our interest, our future as America, because our economy is so big, we have to trade with all these people, and we have to have an orderly, we can't have wars going on all over the world,

or America's not profitable, we can't keep. So it is this, we have made a deal with the devil. And I get pissed about these people that all Monday, Monday morning quarterback all this shit, and say, you should have done this, you should have done that. Well, you know what? Your group was in power. Your group was in power.

You had Joe Biden, and all of this shit with Iran just got worse. It didn't get better. And you got the Ukraine war going. You got the Chinese getting better. And now you got Trump. He's trying to put his foot on it. Is it perfect? Well, fuck, no, it's not perfect.

But you're literally, it's like a, it's, yeah, it's just, I don't really know. I guess I'm not, I just don't want to go fight a fucking another war for the sake of fighting another war, print a fuckload of money, kill our women and kill our men and women out there for,

and get down the line and be like five years, 10 years down the road, be like, what the fuck was that for? What the fuck did we do that for? And don't forget. Because, and I'll say this, ever since, I say it all the time,

but ever since COVID, what the government tells you versus what is actually true, that was the wake-up call for, I think, a lot of people in this country that they, that to me made me like totally change how I look at what our government tells us. That moment in history totally changed. Well, if they're that methodical about that,

What else are they? What else have they been that methodical about in the past and what other things are they trying to be that methodical with in the future? Are we actually getting told? Are we actually in the know about what's actually going on and what their actual plan is? Or are they just manipulating the American public to think what they want you to think? And when you think about 9-11, I never thought 9-11 was a conspiracy theory. I never thought that that was ever a thing. And I don't know.

At this point, I really don't know. Because it does make you think, well, that was a good opportunity for us to get into a war. That was a great opportunity for the military industrial complex to profit. That was a great, that was the thing that they needed to propel us and get the American public behind war. Well, and is that why the border was open? did they let the border just be open because they know that these terrorist cells are going to pop up

and they know that something's going to kick off and they're going to try to get us to rally behind getting into another war? You got to think about that shit. I don't care if it's Democrat or Republican. I don't want to go fight another fucking war for nothing. That's where I'm at and I don't, because I don't think it's good for the American people.

I don't think that that is serving the American people. that's not what we want to do. We need to solve our own shit right now. And if it's dire, if it's dire, if we feel like we're going to get scorched off the fucking earth and America's going to fall if we do not get involved in this conflict, okay, that's a different story.

But it's just like, if all, if the reason we got involved in Afghanistan as Iraq is just because we wanted to go get Osama bin Laden, then we should have just done it. that. That's all it should have been about is going and getting Osama bin Laden, taking him down, and everybody that was involved in 9-11, exterminating him. Yeah. That should have been it. Yep. It should have never been over there for that long. Never. I would, I would, and I, you haven't listened to this yet, but I would tell everybody listening

to this, go listen to Joe Rogan's interview with Ken Burns. Ken Burns is the documentary filmmaker. He only works with PBS and he's done a whole bunch of stuff. It's a three-hour deal. I don't, if you're not a big fan of history, skip it, whatever. Listen to the last 45 minutes of it because it, I would make the claim that if, if we would have had the social media that we have today at the end of the Vietnam War, because you talked about 9-11 being your thing. The Vietnam War did that for a lot of people because that war was, that was like there was a lot of manipulation and a lot of people got lied to in that. And I had no idea. I didn't realize all of the shenanigans that went on.

But this has been going on for a long time. And Trump is not immune to it. I think that Trump is doing his best to stay above the fray. And I think he truly is focused to try to keep America out of this. I do think that he felt like, I feel like that he felt like the, the intelligence that he got convinced him that we needed to do what we did. But, and I don't want to get off of this too far, but I think something that we, and I think this is part of the, this is part of the problem, and this is why the war mongers and the military industrial complex does play such an important role in our, society as far as how they motivate people one way or another. So there, you know, there was this, there was this no king's rally here a few weeks ago. And one of the hot button issues of that

is this spending bill and the idea they're going to cut, somehow they're going to cut Medicaid. Well, did you know this was in the Wall Street Journal just like three days ago that if you did nothing to Medicare, no cuts, state, right where you're at. The best case scenario by the government accounting office is that Social Security will be insolvent. In other words, they will be putting out more money than what they're taking in in 2028. And if you combine Social Security with Medicare, those accounts, I think, are separate now,

which, I mean, it doesn't mean shit. But if you combined it, they'll both, they'll, Social Security will make a, a little bit longer, 20-30, they'll be insolvent. That's five years from now. So all of you people that have your hot button issue about this needs to be done or this social program needs to be done or this needs to be done, guess what? In five years, if we don't change what we're doing and how we're spending our money and we don't start getting rid of all the waste and we don't start cutting all the bullshit. It ain't going to matter because 10 years from now, your Medicare, your Medicaid, your Social Security, people are bitching because the Social Security age went to 67.

The Social Security age is going to go to 85. And you ain't going to have, and it'll be half of what it is at today's dollars. You ain't going to have shit. And your quality of health care is going to go on the shitter because Medicaid is going to get cut. All of this is going to happen because our political system has been kicking the can and kicking the can and kicking the can. And this military operation that I will say was flawless, I don't remember what the price tag of it is, but it's ginormous. Like the amount of money that they spent to drop those 14 bombs and 40-some,

Tomahawk cruise missiles. It is fucking insane. And you can't do it. We can't do it. And that's, I'll tell you, the biggest dirty little secret out there is every one of these little countries and China and Russia,

they all know, they all know that they can't beat the United States of America in a fist fight. But we can sure as hell beat ourselves if we don't get our shit together because if you can't get your checkbook in order, none of it matters because you're not going to have fucking gas to put in the tank to go do anything.

And I mean, that kind of gets us off the deal off of the subject we're on, but whether you think it was right what we did or whether we think that it's wrong, what the Iranians are going to do, at the end of the day, yeah, that matters. but you know what matters more? What matters more is don't take your eye off the ball. Hold these fuckers accountable because if we don't get our elected officials accountable

and under our thumb instead of us being under their thumb, it ain't going to matter what the next war is because we're not going to have the money. We're going to be, it's going to get, we're like five years. And everybody, it keeps kicking the can, kicking the can, it's going to be bad.

Well, yeah, the dollar, I'm a good friend of mine, Grant Hilbert, you guys know him. If you watch Farm YouTube or anything that, we've had him on the show once. But he's a big Bitcoin bowl. And anytime you talk to a guy on Bitcoin, I always ask him this question. Like, do you ever think Bitcoin's going to replace the dollar? Do you ever think the dollar's going to fall? Or do you think we're going to get this thing under control?

And, you know, Grant said to me, he's like, Sawyer, every four years we're electing somebody new. Every four years, just about almost. And every single time there is a conflict or there's a crisis and you are supposed to, the president's supposed to make a humane decision. Not good for our checkbook, but it's the humane decision to keep their legacy and keep their publicity and make the right decision as a president so that they look good. They're going to fucking make that decision every single time. They are going to print money because they are not

going to let the crisis keep going or have their image look like a monster. Even though it is going to detriment this country for the long run, they are always going to print the money. They're going to. They are going to continue to dilute

the dollar and they're going to continue to make it less valuable and if we lose the dollar that's going to be a fucking massive problem. So I always ask him that because I'm always like, do you think Bitcoin could replace a dollar? And he said, I don't know if it necessarily could replace a dollar. It'd have to be chosen by the people.

But he said, I don't think the dollar and the way that we're doing things is sustainable. So it definitely makes Bitcoin more valuable in my eyes as a store of value because the dollar will continue to continue to get devalued and money will continue to get printed because he's like, I mean, ask yourself, do you think that that's going to,

do you think presidents are going to say no to print money when it comes to COVID or the next goddamn thing that happens that everybody's shit in their pants and they feel the pressure of the American public? Yeah. They're going to fucking do it every single time. Yep.

They will. That's a great analogy. I mean, that was that, you know, I was like, that's a good point. And I thought I thought to myself, well, you know, what if what if Trump can get this deficit under control? But it just takes one person to come back in and kick that to the curb and say, fuck it, we're not going to worry about that. So did you come home, buy some Bitcoin? No. I haven't bought any Bitcoin in a while. I feel like though, when you talk to those kind of guys, they make you feel like it's the opportunity of a lifetime.

because just think about like that one thought alone. I mean, that makes sense to me. Yep. And Bitcoin may not be the one that prospers from it, but it's probably the most likely option right now if the dollar falls and we continue to go this way. Not saying that the Bitcoin could replace the dollar, but will that go up in value?

For sure. For sure will. Yep. I agree. I think it's 100% right. I mean, so anyway, that was kind of off topic too, but I, don't know how to feel about it guys if i'm being honest i'm not on one side or the other i just

if war is necessary for our for our well-being as a country then i think you got to do what you got to do but i am not for getting involved in conflicts for the sake of getting involved in the conflicts so that we can prosper or so the military industrial complex can prosper i'm not for that I will never be for that. Because do we know the truth? Yeah, and that's the thing. We're two fucking, we're two farmers from Iowa saying what we believe and talking this through,

but let's be honest, all of us don't know, we don't know the intelligence Trump got. We don't know, we don't know what's getting shoved across the boardroom table. We don't know the shit. And it's really easy to sit here and speculate, but from what has happened in the past, all we can do is look at what's happened to the past

and use that as our lens to think about what's going to happen next. And... Well, and talk about not knowing, not knowing the story, what's happening behind. So here's the story that barely got talked about that may be nothing, may not be anything. But it may be a lot bigger deal than what anybody's talking about. And that is what?

the day before or the first day that Israel started bombing missile sites and air defense structures in Iran, three 747 equivalents from China were flying to Europe. They were, their transponders were on and somehow people know where they're in, attended destination was. They turned and they landed in Tehran. Three 747s. We don't know if they were cargo 747s or they were pasture 747s. But they landed in Tehran and then they were there for a while, good amount of time,

and then they took off and left and they flew back to China. So they didn't go where they were intending to go and they landed in China. And so somebody brought up the question. They didn't land in China. Or they landed in Tehran. In Iran. And so the question is, well, were they there to get Chinese nationals out of Tehran? Because obviously there's plenty of Chinese people that are there because they have good relations with Iran.

So why wouldn't there be? Or were they there loading up the yellow cake, the refined uranium that the Iranian. that the Iranians had because they knew what was happening. And they were like, we're getting this shit out of there. That's a story. I have no idea. We have no idea. And within this world, do you know how little,

what percentage of what happens that the average American or the average person around the world really knows what happens? And that, I guarantee you, that story right there, it'll never be talked about again. It was brought up at a press conference and they asked Marco Rubio about it and he said,

oh, the Chinese weren't helping it anyway. I have no way to know what they were doing there but I'm sure they were probably getting their Chinese nationals out of the country. And he just said it nonchalant like nothing. Maybe he's right. Or maybe they're like, and maybe they know. Who knows?

Nobody knows. But it's kind of crazy. It is kind of crazy. Yeah, I don't really. We beat that horse, We did. I mean, I feel like we definitely share our opinions. So what did you think about Trump's proposed bill? We didn't even talk about the whole Elon shit about how, what everything that went down with

that. I mean, it was kind of short-lived. Elon went on X and had a little, I don't know what he called. He had a little episode of. Oh, him and Trump were going at each other hard. And that was just kind of a shit show too, all that took place there. And I don't know. But isn't it funny? God, it's exhausting.

That's been three weeks now. Has it been three weeks? And now then there is no, like the left being all over Elon, just beaten Elon every single day, done. Now then you don't hear anything about it. Do you think he did that on purpose then to try to win the left back on his side? No, I think he literally realized that you can put my, towards both sides, but you can't kill.

I think he realized you cannot kill that, that print and spend government. I think, if he was honest, he would probably, and I doubt he says this, but I think what he realized is that he better just make Tesla as strong as it can be and have as big a pile of cash as they can because the United States government, I think that he gave up. I think he said, there's no fucking fixing this. And he just fucking left. And that bill, now, Trump will tell you that that spending,

that it adds and that bill is going to be offset by the tax revenue that we're going to get and from all the money we're going to get from tariffs and all the property tax and all the stuff because we're going to grow this economy. He is a, he is under the opinion, that, and this is a little bit true because you've heard me talk about how when I was in the construction business and we had some tight years

and we would go through all this stuff about, you know, we're going to cut this, we're going to cut that. And the guy that owned that company, he would take about so much of that and then you get pissed and he would say, you know what we need to do? We just need to go out and sell some fucking buildings because we're not going to make money figuring out, what truck to buy for the best gas mileage. We can't cut her way to prosperity.

We need to go sell some shit. Well, I think Trump's kind of the same way. I think he really liked the idea of cutting all that waste until it became so obvious how entrenched the bureaucracy was and how they were going to fight them every step of the way. And that bill is 100% growth. It's all about growth. and it's like spend money to make money, spend money to make money.

That's the idea. That's the mentality. But that doesn't mean that it's going to work that way. And Elon, I think he just felt like he was a little bit betrayed. I don't know if he felt he was betrayed, but I think that he saw that, and I probably haven't said this, but he made 200 and Doge up to the point that he left had made 203. These numbers aren't exact, but like 203 changes in different bureaucracies that was going to save like close to $2 billion. Out of those 203 things, like 50 of them had been

implemented and were done, and those things had saved like, I can't remember how many $100 million. The other 140-some or 150-some things, that's how many lawsuits were filed to stop what he was trying to do to happen. Now, then all of those will get litigated, and they think most of them will all happen. But that just tells you how strong the bureaucracy was against cutting that waste, cutting the fraud, cutting the misspending. because this is the way it's always been done. This is what we do. Don't get the fuck out of our sandbox. And I think he just, I think he was just like.

It's kind of a good point. I never really thought about it. Like he probably, he didn't want his, it's back to the whole ego as a president. You don't want your whole administration, your whole legacy of your second term to be, well, we waited and waited and waited to try to cut this fat out, but we ended up not even getting it all done because these lawsuits,

they held them this up in court. And yeah, so yeah, he probably is thinking, well, we need to do something. I got to generate results somehow. But so what do you think about it, though? Do you think it's the right thing to do it? Oh, 100%. Well, here's the thing. We either do it now. We either do it now, or some president that's probably going to be not nearly as, I wouldn't say qualified, because a lot of people argue that Trump's not qualified. Well, Trump's not a politician. But if there was ever a president that I felt like

could take the darts, could take the bullets, and walk off the stage and just be like, it is what it is, it'd be Trump. So all of these cuts, of all of these agencies and all of the money that's going to have to be saved, it's not a question of if that's going to happen. It's going to happen because you are going to run out of money, and you will have to cut all of this shit.

And these social programs that everybody's holding on to, and let's face it, farmers, all the USDA money that you think you need to have and the crop insurance subsidies that you think you need to have, you won't have those in 10 years. If we don't figure it out, if you don't, if you don't, and that's the balance, and that's what Trump, I will admit, I think that's what he's looking at. He's thinking that you can't just cut, you have to grow the economy.

I understand that. But what's really bad is if we screw this up, you're going to have economy that shrinks, and you're going to have to make all these cuts, which is just going to send us into an absolute shit show, at which time it'd be a really good idea for you to have Grant Hilbert as a neighbor. I'm not shitting you. You better have somebody that this is where all these communities are going to have to pull together.

So getting back to... So you're saying if Trump's plan doesn't work and we try to grow but we don't grow and we got to make these cuts at the same time, it's just going to be... Yeah, it's going to be a depression. I think. I think it'll be the But what's the other, what's the alternative? Well, the alternative is So if he doesn't,

if he doesn't try to grow the economy? No, I think he absolutely needs to try to grow the economy. But he needs to fight these lawsuits that Elon started, he has to see that shit through and they have to continue. They have to continue

to try to get the fraud out of government. Even though Elon's God, these guys are still operating. I mean, they're still working to try to do this. And he has to push that. He has to push it. And hopefully, hopefully, they do a good enough job that the American people can see

that there is some results from it. And we're able to keep people in power that believe that smaller government, the government should be smaller and government should not be involved in everything. And there's only a few things, that government is good at, and that's killing people, breaking things, and collecting taxes. That's it.

Everything else that they fuck with, they're terrible at. Everything they've tried to do that's outside of those three things, they're not good at. And they need to just concentrate on that and get rid of all the rest of the waste. But I don't know if it'll happen. Yep. You want one lighthearted thing to end our just drudgery session? Yeah. First of all, you heard the LA Lakers sold $10 million.

$10 billion. Do you hear that? I didn't hear that. Okay. So the Los Angeles Lakers sell for $10 billion. It was purchased, the family that holds it now, it was purchased in 1979 for $67.5 million. That's an appreciation of $215 million a year for 46 years. That's crazy.

So, and the guy that bought it, the guy that bought it, guy that bought the Lakers, he grew up in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Really? Yep. And I should have written down his name, but I didn't. But he's from Cedar Rapids, Iowa. So what is the annualized rate of return that that family is going to receive off of this? Come on, Rain Man.

2.88% annualized return. That's the rate. So if you take the purchase price of $67 million and then what they sold it for $2 billion, and you figure that out over 46, you. years, it's a 2.88% annualized rate of return. Not too bad. That's a pretty good, that's a pretty good flip. So, yeah, now will he be able to sell it in 40 years and get that return? I don't know. The NBA ratings were down pretty bad over the last couple of years, but I feel like this year, I even tuned into the NBA playoffs a little bit because I think what hurts the NBA, one,

games schedule's too long. It's just like the MLB. There's way too many fucking games, way too many. And we get sick of the... I mean, you get sick of the dynasties. I mean, you get sick of the LeBron and the Warriors. LeBron and the Warriors.

It's the same shit every year. This year you had the Pacers in Oklahoma City. Those are two small town, or not small town, but smaller market teams that kind of were not underdogs, but you haven't really seen them before. And that was exciting. You know, that was exciting.

Something new, something different, which is good. So I think the NBA, if they can kind of keep up this, this, LeBron just needs to go. At the end of the day, LeBron needs to just go. We need something new. LeBron is great. He was awesome to watch. But they got to have something new and different.

I think if the NBA can make one change is just be less. less games. Less games. Same with the MLB. They need less games. But I think it'll carry on. I think they could sell it for more in 40 years. Unless the dollar collapsed,

then we're all fucked. But anyway, yeah. Last thing I'll say is all this negative talk. I'm sorry. I just feel like that's what, this is the biggest issue out there right now. Everybody's feeling it.

I mean, everybody. But every one of you and us at the end of the day, day. We can't do a whole lot about it. You still have to go through your day. You still have to do what you got to do. And you know what? My version of one of the greatest, like, positive piece of advice out there is, if you think things are going to get worse, you're right. And if you think things are going to get better, you're right. It's up to you. You decide. You get to decide what your future is, regardless of everything else. It is what you're going to. It is what you're you make it and at the end of the day

what's between here controls everything else in your life and so you know what? Put your head down and go make it better. Yep. I can say it any better myself. Yeah, you got

you can only, you got to keep your head up a little bit and know what's going on so you can make good decisions you know as far as just like hey, you know, I don't know it's just like when the Jews were being oppressed in Germany. The ones that were smart got the fuck out of there because they knew it was coming.

They had their head up a little bit and knew what the fuck was going on. So, I mean, you got to kind of know what's going on a little bit. But it is up to you. It is, we can't do much about it. I mean, we can hold our political, the people that represent us in this country hold their feet to the fire. But we're here. We're citizens.

We're doing what we can do. So you can just, I think, setting the standard in your community. And when you talked about the social programs going to way and how government's good at three things and they should just let us do the rest. That comes back to the people and entrepreneurship. Like if you want to make changes for people and communities and groups that you're passionate about, you can do that. Like you should get, we should, we should incentivize people to go out and do that.

Not the fucking government, right? You want to help a certain group, a certain type of person or you want to create something that's going to benefit people in the, in a podcast. positive way. Entrepreneurship is that. That's what entrepreneurship is for. And I feel like we have a lot of people that want to become entrepreneurs. And probably, unfortunately, some of them for the wrong reasons, they just want to get rich.

But I believe that entrepreneurship is a tool to help people in a positive way. Leave the, have a better impact on the world. And they're not, but like, local. Yeah. create good impact for for people and change change your world change your community for the better now there's some shitty business people out there and there's some shitty businesses that don't do that and actually have the opposite effect but i think those are there's a lot less of that than there are people that are trying to have businesses have organizations have nonprofits to help people and we just need more of that so

you know that i think it comes back to the people and setting the standard and doing what you can do in your community and your family and how can you make it better how can you start something or make something to to make american better make your community better so it comes back to us and you got to control what you can control amen to that so anyway well i think that's gonna wrap it up guys i think we got all our words out i know it's a little more doom and gloom this this go around but um it is what it is that's what's going on in the country that's our thoughts on it Let us know what you guys think in the comments, or if you're on Spotify.

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