Barn Talk - Talking Farming w/David Zieser

Episode Date: March 7, 2024

We're chatting with our guest David Zeiser, a man who knows the weight and worth of equipment and the true value of manure as gold for the fields. From strip tilling to custom farming, David shares his strategies and struggles, like deciding to upgrade his John Deere and his plans to tackle crop emergence issues head-on. Use code BARNTALK for 10% OFF your next order https://farmergrade.com SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST ➱ https://bit.ly/3a7r3nR   SUBSCRIBE TO THIS’LL DO FARM ➱ https://bit.ly/2X8g45c  SUBSCRIBE TO BARN TALK CLIPS ➱ https://bit.ly/3BlZnqq   LISTEN ON: SPOTIFY ➱ https://open.spotify.com/show/3icVr4KWq4eUDl7Oy60YMY  ITUNES ➱ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/barn-talk/id1574395049 Follow Behind The Scenes👇🏻 ● This’ll Do Farm Instagram ➱ https://bit.ly/30KPBNk   ● Barn Talk TikTok ➱ https://bit.ly/3qciekS   ● Sawyer’s Instagram  ➱ https://bit.ly/3BtX0n4   ● Tork’s Instagram ➱ https://bit.ly/3LGZJxS    07:36 Near the end of the tunnel, hog profits. 13:36 Hog industry facing export and generational challenges. 18:01 Myth about pork cooking temperature debunked. 21:53 Planting requires timing and favorable weather conditions. 31:27 Scattered rainfall, low yield, concern for crops. 36:34 S 662,017 machine trade with local owner. 41:35 Cost and convenience of filling up fuel. 45:34 Grateful for father-in-law and cooperation with locals. 48:16 Agencies can streamline visa process, reduce time. 56:09 Manure sample rates for nitrogen application estimation. 58:58 Maximize nitrogen usage across different application methods. 01:06:35 Transitioning to custom work for better equipment. 01:10:10 Value of being handy for saving money. 01:19:08 Preparing for planting with the strip till method. 01:24:56 Machine can spread easily, banding may help. 01:29:24 Debate about border closure gains support. 01:34:46 Speculation about Biden's health and convention dynamics. 01:41:33 Recent prisoner release not charged with insurrection. 01:43:20 Press credibility at all-time low among Republicans. 01:48:00 Encourage sharing, leave review, see you next week. ------------------------------- ***PLEASE NOTE*** Barn Talk is a significant break from the typical content viewers have come to expect from This’ll Do Farm. Please be advised that we will be exploring a wide variety of topics (some adult-themed) and our younger viewers (and their parents) should be advised that some topics will be for mature audiences only. ⚠NO FINANCIAL ADVICE / DISCLAIMER⚠  The Information discussed and shared on Barn Talk is provided for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes only, without any express or implied warranty of any kind, including warranties of accuracy, completeness, or success for any particular purpose. The Information contained in or provided from or through this podcast is not intended to be and does not constitute financial advice, investment advice, trading advice, or any other advice. The Information on this podcast and provided from or through our content is general in nature and is not specific to you, the user or anyone else. You should not make any decision, financial, investment, trading or otherwise, based on any of the information presented on this podcast without undertaking independent due diligence and consultation with a professional, professional broker or financial advisory. Understand that... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Got it covered. No shrimp farmers. I did have somebody, this is actually pretty cool, that reached out, that claims to be a wild Alaskan salmon guy. No kidding. That's out getting wild caught Alaskan salmon. And he's looking to find an avenue to sell it through. Very, very, gets my wheels turning, but you got to think freight, you know, freight, transportation, all that shit.

It'd be awesome to do that. But, man, are you going to drive the Farmer Grade truck up there? Yeah, right. Driving back. That's the problem. Yeah, we get a lot of interest from people and I'd love to say yes to everybody on Farmer Grade that wants to work with us. But one, I don't feel like I have enough capital

to be able to just get everybody from every other state, you know? But the other thing is like people are reaching out about lamb, what's another one? Goats. chicken, I want chicken. I just got to find a chicken producer.

I want to find a chicken producer close by because the logistics and freight will just kill you. But like sheep, lamb, what did I say? Goats, goats, salmon, shrimp, all that stuff. It sounds awesome and maybe in the future I'd love to do it. But I got to stay focused on getting those three proteins down first

and then we can venture out and do cool shit like bison and stuff like that. But keep it simple, stupid. It's kind of my motto right now. Yep, that's right. We got to keep it simple. Not saying we're stupid, but we're not the sharpest tools in the shed.

So we've got to stay in our lane and get some stuff figured out. Today we're going to stay in our lane of just ag. And it's a beautiful day outside in southeast Iowa, which would remind you of spring. However, this episode should have taken place in the fall. uh we've got a friend of the show and the guy that does that helps us farm does a bunch of custom work for us um he's our he's our handy andy he's the guy that keeps the wheels turning because uh he can fix just about everything and got a lot of got a lot of cool technology and we wanted to do a post harvest

uh episode this fall however we got busy and he got busy and we had a lot of stuff going on and it just so happened that today it worked. So we're going to sit down and we're going to talk about the past year, what's coming in 24, what we're looking forward to. We might dwell off a little into politics. We seem to be of similar minds in that area. So we might get into that a little bit. But just a good all-around episode to talk about our hopes, dreams, and ambitions.

So without any further ado, let's get into it. David Zezer, welcome to Barn Talk. We've been trying to get this one on for a while now. This was supposed to be our post-harvest summary episode. It still is. Actually,

we were supposed to have that. And at that episode, we were supposed to plan our national farm machinery show trip for next week and go on the bourbon hunt. On the bourbon trip. And we failed pretty miserably at all those things. But we're here. But we made it today. So yeah, this is going to be kind of our, we're going to talk harvest. We're going to talk planning. We're going to talk David's manure journey of doing custom manure for all the people around here. And just the ups and downs of all of it. Yeah, whatever lights us up. It's kind of going to go with the flow. But glad to have you here. You've been here once already. We're going to kind of make this an annual thing. So if you don't know this, David, we all kind of farm together. He's our custom guy. He's our custom guy. some combines for us, custom plants for us, custom manure for us.

Kind of as a jack of all trades. And we just kind of all farm together. So every year we're going to, after harvest, after he gets done doing manure, we're going to come on here. We're just going to talk about the year. Well, yeah, first and foremost, God bless you guys. Thank you for everything last year. That was awesome.

You're welcome, buddy. Yeah. You made it through. I knew you would. So that was a tough. last year probably will go down in the books as you're probably your tough I hope it's your tough I hope so I hope so it actually wasn't really that bad no so I hope that's the worst thing gets yeah yeah yeah funny thing is I sold probably about half sold with grain for 23 crop

and I'm actually glad that I am I sold it all in the fall which was a lot better prices than we're seeing today yeah it's well we should do that uh since this is an ag since This is a kind of an ag-based deal. We should do a hot and fast market update. Start with the quick to the nuts, right? Yeah, because this is full of it today. And these are actually good numbers as of the day we're recording it. So corn down, 438 on the board, 434 local.

Actually, the river has the best price right now, 442. Not even Cedar Rapids wants to pay up for grain today. So the river was a penny higher. Beans 1194. 1185 on our side, 1217, if you want to drive to Quincy, beanmeal, $358 a ton. Bean meal is about the lowest. It's been in quite a while.

The hog farmers probably like that a little bit. We eat 595 for the nearby month. Everything going forward is $6 or higher. Hogs don't sound that great. So the contract, the nearby futures contract is $7,350. However, my eyes are practically burning from the light pouring in at the end of the tunnel. We're almost to the end of the tunnel. You can actually make money in the hog business.

You get out, you get out, what, April, May, June, all in the 90s. In fact, getting close to the upper 90s. And feeder pigs are right about $60. and if you go out on the futures, if you can buy a $60 feeder pig, you can lock in a $25 a head profit. That's the first time you've been able to do that in about a year. So my rent checks, I don't have to worry about them clearing. Nope, I think. So we and David custom feed for the same integrator. When we go tits up, we'll go tits up together.

Yeah, we live together, we die together. But it looks like, yeah, if the checks have made it, long they're probably going to keep coming so there is a little hope in the hog business i don't know we'll just have to see exports the chinese have been losing just as much money as we have been if not more and they're shedding sows like crazy but uh i read the other day that i think they have so many problems over there that they're really not interested in throwing money at the hog business to keep all those guys afloat they have kind of changed their idea that they think they can probably buy pork cheaper than

they can go through the trouble of keeping all these guys afloat. So they're probably going to import more pork like they did, oh, four or five years ago versus when they got on that kick of trying to grow it all themselves. So if we don't, if the world doesn't fall apart and we don't piss everybody off or each other, maybe they're going to buy enough that it'll help us out. We'll just have to see. Bricks. Bricks might have another thing to say about that. Yeah, that's true. That's 100% true. Cattle, $183. Cattle market is just fucking on fire. It's just crazy. Feeder cattle. Because there's no cattle out there. There are no cattle. That's right. And there's not going to be for, what, two years probably. Best you can do. You got to buy the cow. You got to breed

the cow and then wait nine months for her to poop the baby out. And then another, what, six to nine months for it to get fat, year? So if you're... I don't know anything about cattle. If you have the cows, you got to be feeling pretty good. I think you would. We should get a cow guy on here. Well, there's just not too many around. That's the hard part. We'll get Mike Berto. When's the last time the cattle guys have made any money? No, that's right. They're going to fight that they deserve it. Right. And I guess I won't argue against them. Uh, oil, $73, Bitcoin, $43,600. Tesla's $189, gold's $2,000.

Silver. Nobody cares about silver. We talked with our favorite chemical supplier the other day. And back in our single days, we were living together, probably should have taken some of that beer money and put it on Bitcoin. Yes. I thought you were going to say he's going to start accepting Bitcoin for payment. Oh, there you go. Oh, don't kid yourself.

We'd be sitting in a lot better spot right now. now if I'd have put $3,000 down in 2008. Brad will take any, depending on what time of year it is, Brad will take any form of payment just to get some money. So I don't think that's a problem. I will ask him whether he'll take Bitcoin or not. Or silver. Yeah.

I don't think you should feel bad, though. I think there's plenty of guys your age that were in school or young at the time of the beginning of Bitcoin that actually paid for pizza with Bitcoin. Yeah, you could be that guy. Yeah, that would suck. Yeah, well, I mean, paid 10 bucks for a pizza and it would have been worth a million or something. Yeah, crazy amount. It was like 10 Bitcoin or something like that.

So I saw an article the other day about the population bomb that's about to hit China. Yes. Coming from the old one child policy. It has bit them in the ass, terrible. So, depending on who you listen to, so there's a guy, Peter Zion, if you're a listener of show you know that I've quoted in many times and he's a demographics act he's it he focuses on like geography natural resources population birth rate trends all that kind of stuff and then talking about this before I think we talked about this the last time we probably did like there is not enough

young people coming up to their whole economy is based on consumption right you just stimulate people to buy stuff, buy houses, buy cars. Yeah. Well, their population is just leveled out. So there's no, at best, you can maintain. There's no upside left. And in fact, they're only, they're only a few years away from starting to decline. But the problem is, you take like the United States, our population has been stagnant for quite a while, we're just above the replacement rate.

Yeah. Most of that's probably from illegal immigration. right uh however we're better off than most of the world japan and and uh europe however uh it's been a very gradual thing and so we've been able to like muddle through it their decline is going to be a decline followed by a rapid just absolute collapse because all the people from when that one child thing started it just there's a big hole there basically and when it hits they're in trouble. I don't know if you're,

you said about, it's good that they're not producing pork right now, but. Right. How long until we lose that? Well, the hog business has two really big problems, and that's one of them is the fact that we built this idea

that we were just going to be able to produce more and more and more, and we were going to export the extra, and the whole world wanted to eat meat and wanted to eat meat, and wanted to eat more of it. And the developing nations, those populations are just going to grow and grow and grow. And while that's true in a lot of smaller countries in Asia, and Mexico is honestly our biggest exporter for us personally, but it's more of a mature market in the fact that it doesn't have as much upside

because we already sell so much pork down there. But China, I don't think, is sustainable. but then the other problem that we have is your generation, younger people, they don't eat as much meat anyway and they definitely don't eat. They want quick stuff. I feel like that trend of carnivore, keto, people are like starting to realize, oh, so the fruity pebble cereal, they keep telling us that's what's good for our cholesterol and don't eat enough, don't have too much bad cholesterol and they want us not to eat eggs, dairy, or meat. You know, it's like people...

bad eggs are good yeah people are waking up and saying so you're telling me the real shit that's real food that isn't full of food dyes and all that shit's bad for me but all the other stuff that's processed and made in your factory that's the good stuff for me yeah fuck you bugs are good for you yeah exactly it's like i don't know i for me i eat meat probably every almost every meal and i'm kind of more moving towards i just trying to eat real food as much as i can and eat less of that seed oil shit red dye shit all that stuff because that's what they want you to eat i talked to a local farmer well just last night even he's got family out in colorado and they go out to visit them like once or twice a year and they don't consume pork at all he's like they'll take pork out

to them like he'll take them loins and he's like they don't know to cook it either so they just cook the dog piss out of it and then it's dry and just a brick. So I mean, there's room for expansion in the U.S., I'm sure. We're going to change that. Yeah. When those commercials of me frying bacon in the morning with my shirt off, when those hit on the Farm Grade website,

it's going to bring them in. It's going to be like, it's going to be like flies to honey. That'll be our lowest month in sales right there. That is sexy right there. Well, and the people that are attracted to that. probably needs some sort of some sort of counseling anyway. But I thought I'd throw it up there.

That's a Chinese proverb, never cooked pork bacon. I think that video could end up on topless. Never cook bacon naked. Yep. That could end up on pornub. Torque, making pork. I have no, I, well, I don't know. That tag in the kitchen making some bacon.

That tag could, that could really stray into some, for national pork month we could do that we could get it on there let's just go to a that would go torque the other white meat yeah yeah white meat heck yeah okay i like it yeah i think there's hope i think there's hope i do and i do think that we've said it a million times if we could try to get more restaurants and more people promoting the consumption of pork because it is good if you know how to cook it and it's done really really really well. If it's done well, it's fucking great. The flavor's amazing. So, irradiation. Remember that from back in the early 2000s or 90s? That was supposed to be, I thought, the way to fix the, um, was it

triptanosis, triptocinosis problem? What's that called? Tricinosis. Tricinosis. Yeah. Wasn't that the way to solve that and then you could pork a little more rare? And you could, and you could keep it. It extended the shelf life because it killed all the bacteria of any kind and all that. Was it the R word radiation? Yeah, I think so. And it, so they were doing, I think a lot of meats they were wanting to, basically I think all processed meat they were trying to do that. And I don't think that ever, no.

I don't think that ever took off. Right. I think that that was all dead on arrival. I think the biggest, I think the biggest myth out there with pork is people are still, that message still floats around from your grandmother that you have to cook pork to 160 degrees because of trichinosis and we don't have trichinosis anymore it's not an issue and you know they say 145 and i can tell you i the way i do pork chops or anything is i you're not a food safety expert i'm this is not food safety advice food safety advice basically basically

Basically, if you get anything out of this, do your own research because you can't trust us. But yeah, so when I cook them, I cook them and I pull them in 140 and then let them. Yeah, I agree. I had a, well, I have a friend who used to work in the restaurant industry. And he said the one clientele that would always come in and want their steak overooked was the old farmers. Yes. That ain't me. I don't think that's the new generation of farmers.

It's not. No. It was probably a deal from back in the day where they cut the steak and left it sit in the fridge for a month. And then they had to cook it. Everything my mother cooked was well done. And if we had lamb chops, because we used to raise a few sheep, you could, I just truly were hockey pucks. If you chucked them at somebody, knock them out cold. Those things were like tough, very tough. So everything got the shit cooked out of it.

Speaking of tough, let's get into last year. So for those that don't know what took place last year, if they didn't tune into this will do farm, our YouTube channel, kind of fill them in on the year that you had, the ups, the downs, how it started, how it ended, and just kind of, yeah, give them your perspective a little bit. My year, how it started, so I had some issues with emergence. last spring.

I think when we planted it was not quite exactly fit, but we hit that first window. That's right. That's what it was. Widoff calls me and he says, well, there he is. The only guy in Washington County was done with corn. Yep.

It turned out all right, but there was some issues with emergence. It was not. Well, it wasn't perfect. And, yeah, I was a little worried, but to be honest. You guys were half done. Yeah, we were half.

I was all done. Yeah. And I was kind of worried about what we had. But then it wasn't a whole lot. So when we finished, then we didn't get rain. Yeah. So then it got dry. It got warm.

Which I say was a good thing. It was a good thing. But we were like, okay, are we going to get enough rain to get this corn up? But you, you got all sorts of excited. You were like, got to get this done. Right. And I almost fell for the, for your ploy because I get this message from David. And it's like, what do you think?

I've been out checking my stuff. And I figured, you know, your soil up there on the north side of the road, it always warms up faster. You never want to be the only guy that does the wrong thing. Maybe we could go up there. And I was like, uh, I think I just didn't reply for a few hours. And then I was like, oh, it's not any too fit up here. And by the-

Watching the road. He's not here yet, is he? And then by that time, you're like, like, well, I'm going. I'm like, okay, knock yourself out. And then I don't hear anything from you for a little while. And then it's like, I'm done. What do you want to start?

Well, it's that you got to have it in the ground. Is it 12 hours? I'll remember it all when it comes to planting time again. But you got to have it in the ground 12 hours before a cold rain, which everything you and I did was in. My issue is just seed disallowed. oil contact wasn't the greatest. And then, yeah, we had, what, two weeks, three weeks of cold rain.

Mm-hmm. Cold and rain. Not a lot of rain, but a lot of cold. But yeah, I think the dry spell probably did us more good than anything because, I don't know, I've talked about it on the YouTube channel before, but if it's dry early, then roots will go down once you hit tassel. stopped growing. Yep.

And we, yeah. We definitely have proven in the last five years in southeast Iowa that... Take a dry year over a wet year. 100%. I don't want a wet year. Yeah, 2019, so bad.

I just, it... Are we going to get bitten the ass this year, you think? We had all this snow in the winter, and it's going to do the same thing in the spring, and it's just going to pour like a mofo. Farmer's almanac 90 days out from fog, right? we got though what is it in that window am i not supposed to speak that in existence yeah don't don't talk that don't talk that dirty well but snow so an inch of snow is a tenth of an inch of water

is that right it ain't much it doesn't amount to that much yeah a foot of snow is like an inch of water yeah which we'll take it because there's been years we don't get we there's plenty of years we don't get what we just had in that one snow and we lucked out moving it sucked because it wasn't froze underneath, but when it thawed, it was perfect because it just settled right in. So that's good. I've got tile running. I was going to ask you if you did. I checked it today and I was like, I ain't seen that in a while. Well, then we're good to go. We don't need any more rain the rest of the year. That's true, actually. To be honest, we started laughing. Any rain we would get in April, March. It's just bonus. May even don't mean crap to us at this point. It's going to stay cold enough.

It ain't going to go anywhere. Yep. If they could stay dry until August and then we get, Yep. Five inches of rain. You just order that up. Then corn will really go down. Yeah, you're right there. That's your 100% right there. I think you told me you're talking to John Boy,

and he said it needs to say cheap a while longer. Yeah. I just talked to him again yesterday. Yesterday? Yeah. He's hoping four million, and he thinks it's feasible to four million acres of corn. Get switched out.

Get dropped out. Either go to beans, which I don't. eat. Well, if that's good or not or just... Why is that, why are they going to drop out? Because if you're, if you're at the fringe, so if you're at the fringe part of the corn growing area, or if you're a guy that plants corn, you're, you've made the decision you don't want to mess with beans. You're just planting corn on corn all the time. Yeah. Well, if the equation gets cheap enough on corn, some of those guys will start switching some acres to beans or to something else. Yeah, if you got a cornfield that's

been corn for three or four years and you switch it to beans, you should expect a pretty good yield on beans. So there's just a lot of guys that are doing that because the corn price is getting so cheap. If futures stay cheap enough right here when people are making those decisions, we may lose some acres, which is what we need to do. That's why the market's doing what it's doing, because it wants to shed acres. It's because I think I talked about this on a podcast a couple weeks ago about the number of shorts and how the number of funds that are short in the market is the highest it's been since 2018, I think. And if a third of the corn is priced, which now there may be a little more than that, I don't know, because some guys probably kind of panicked when this thing started

heading the wrong way. For next fall, you're saying? Yeah. But if you're thinking about, you're thinking about the amount of corn that's priced versus the amount of corn out there that's not priced. I mean, it's a huge, huge amount. And so the market is trying to say, they're doing something else. Yeah. I don't know. I'm hoping we swing around a little bit before I price next year's. Yeah, you and me both because there's not a lot of, not a lot of well, and look at your cost, look at your cost per acre. I mean, yeah, what did, uh, what off told me your talk about that was eight, nine hundred dollars. Profit was like, oh, yeah, 40 bucks. Forty bucks an acre.

Well, because I sit down and do, I sit down and do my cost. And it's crazy. I mean, it does not take much, it does not take much for land cost. It does not take much for land cost for equipment costs to put your cost of production to raise corn over $700. And a lot of guys, if you've got high rent and big machinery, it's over $800. and I don't know whether they're, I'm sure there's guys that are over nine. I don't know. I mean, I'd like to be the guy that's like $300 without land cost or something like that, but I'm not, so I can't say that. Hopefully by the time I retire my kid's rent is down a little bit from where I'm paying. Then I could support a couple families. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Well, that's the scary

part about it is so you take that and you look at corn okay if corn is uh what was the number today 438 or 38 or 38 that doesn't pay that doesn't pay very well for uh an 800 dollar cost per acre it's the cost everything's came gone up and our prices are they haven't matched that doesn't even include your labor and we get seven dollars sometimes seven dollar cord and sometime but it's like the cost of all the shit that we got to do and all the shit we buy now it's gone up with everything else that's gone up in the economy yet we're still getting paid the same commodity price that's pretty average all the rest of the years to yeah and the way we roll we can't bite that bullet and pay taxes yeah right so we don't save anything i think people don't i mean people outside of ag

don't really i mean they just don't realize it it's like i mean everybody's struggling but it's like dude you want family farms to stay in business well it's going to get fucking hard really fucking hard for a lot of people yeah yeah for so anyway but well yeah i mean we can all crap on the corporate farmers but first person that's taking the hit on whatever you want to call this economy um is the little guys by nomics sure yeah i don't know how far you wanted to go well we go as far as we watt on here so you can let her eat okay so emergence was a worry yeah so i was worried about emergence there um i wasn't so much worried about the dry may june towards the end of june i was contemplating not post spraying my beans because they were six inches tall and that's the deal well

do i spend the money and spread or are they just going to die anyway sprayed them and then four days later we got like two and a half inches of rain. Yep. Yeah, it was literally to the point that if you got up really, really early as the sun was just peeking over the, over the horizon. You could see the dew and count that as moisture. You could look at your crop and go, what? It really doesn't look too bad.

It looks okay. And then by 9.30, it looked like it was going to burn up that day. Yeah, it looked like we're growing pineapples. It's like, oh, is today the day my corn turns gray? Just like Instagram girls nowadays. Whoa. What they look like on Instagram, right angle, right photo, filter. Is that filter?

Get in person. Is that fair? It's burning up. I didn't know. They're burning up. I've never met an Instagram girl. No. Well, I plead the fifth.

I think I look as good on Instagram as I do in person. Yeah. It's hard to filter you. Well, I look good. There's no. You at least make those around you look good. Yeah. I look my best in low light as far as that goes.

but I mean, I'll take what I can get. But yeah, we got, what was it, like June 30th? I think we got two and a half inches of rain. And then that got us into tassel, which, oh, man, that was good. And that was. But still. That made a big difference there. Weren't you just?

Chitting bricks? Yeah. I was utterly amazed. Oh, at the end result. Yeah. I mean, I just felt like when we got that rain. I was like, okay, we're going to have a crop. How much, how much am I going to be able to collect on my crop insurance?

Is it going to be 140 bushel the acre? Is it going to be 160 busheled the acre? Because it's not anywhere in my mind that I think, okay, this is going to be one of the best crops I've raised. I was sure we were going to beat the insurance average, so we wouldn't get an insurance payout. Yeah, you were the, yeah, that's right. You were the little gray cloud that was like, I'm sure. we're going to be one bushel above. Above insurance.

I was like, oh, thanks for stealing my joy there, bud. Well, yeah, then it shut off again all through July. Yep. And then I think it was August, like 8th, maybe. We got another one inch or 1.8 inches. Yep. Then I filled it. Then I called the pioneer guy.

And I said, hey, let's do some bushel counts, estimations here. Come on out. And at that point, We were looking low 200. So I was like, okay, well, if we don't get rain, I asked him like, if we don't get rain from here and out, we're looking at what we just estimated.

He's like, yeah, it should be that. Yeah. And we didn't get rain from there on now. So, yeah, when I went on the old first pass of headlines this year, it was one of them. Yeah, looking between the fingers. God, how bad is it going to be on the monitor? And then I...

Yeah, I was just... Damn near bawled my eyes out. I was just amazed. As good as it was, yeah. Absolutely amazed. That's why we got sub-4-dollar corn now. It is, absolutely. It, yeah, no good deed is left unpunished.

Exactly. We, no doubt. My beans were, I'd guess beans at 60 all year. Yep. That's where they landed their plane right at 60. Yep. Well, the beans, they just couldn't overcome that they didn't grow for a month. Right.

or a month and a half. Yeah. You can set a lot of pods, but it's hard to get, it's hard to get 80 bushels of worth of pods in a plant that's... Yeah, it takes lubrication to make the beans go from Bs to something respectable. Yeah,

that was kind of a disappointment, but that was to be expected, I think. I was trying to think when... Don't hurt yourself. I know. I know. So you had a plan. You had it figured out.

you know, kind of how things were going to go. And then you kind of got, you kind of got smacked. You kind of got. Right. I knew what I was going into the season with equipment-wise. Yeah. And it reared its ugly head a little harder than it ever had before. Yes.

I knew it was pretty slow when it came to beans, especially with the 25-foot head. Yep. And then it got worse. and I never really understood why it got worse. Yeah, the mechanic came out and we did. I blame him. I do too.

I think he D-Rourgit in my combine. We never, so those of you that don't know, so David has run a John Deere, 9570. I think it's still for sale. Is it really? Well, that's good. I'll pass on that. Because my deal on that,

still stands. I'll buy it as long as you provide the maintenance program for it. Oh. That's a deal. Because I don't know how to fix shit. I could probably transfer my loan over to you. Yeah, that's not really what I'm looking for either as far as that goes. But so what, what has been the Achilles heel of the 9570? I mean, what is the, what's the dig on it? Yeah. What I have come to understand. is the early 2000s deer. And I used to work for BG Brecky, a mechanical plumbing contractor in Cedar Rapids. And the John Deer store at the time was in water,

John Deer store. The plant in Waterloo, the tractor and engine plant was building Buku big time trying to expand their engine operation to meet the new emissions standards. So what deer had done instead of putting a large, larger motor in that 9570 platform. They took current motor and spun it faster. Which it was not built, designed for that.

Diesel engines, whatever they're built and designed for is what they need to run at. Yeah. So, I mean, over its lifespan of roughly over 3,000 hours, it had gone an extra however long. 20% more. Right. because, I mean, they wanted to spend it at 2,500 RPM. So you have notoriously had fuel.

It always had fuel issues with it. Yeah. And then our famous mechanic buddy came out and said, ooh. How many hours this got? Yeah, how many hours this got? And then he told me horror stories about other guys at that hour, that same hour with parts coming out of it.

Basically made the comment that when it hits the hours that it was out, Yeah. It was pretty much a grenade and you were just going to, it was going to pull the pin on itself. It was what he said. It got to the point where either I upgrade to the new graphics package. Yeah, that's right. Or I get nothing out of it. Yeah, that's right.

I went the new graphics package. So the decision was made. So what did you get? I got an S660, 2017. Two owner trade in from another local owner close to us here. And it looks like a pretty good machine. Yeah. The last deal or the last part of the deal that needs to be done is it's going to go in

and get a run through. Yeah. At the shop before next fall. Yeah. I hope they have time. Those guys seem like they're never looking for something to do, at least according to the scheduler in there. So yeah, it's going to go in and it's going to get the spa treatment.

Nice. Come back. I'm hoping. So they've got a bigger hopper for it. Yeah, that was the one thing that we noticed. That was its kind of one issue. Yeah. I was always full again.

Yeah, I was, I'm typically the grain cart driver. And David was struggling. And I was like, holy shit, because we went from the old machine to this one. And I was like, oh, well, this shit, we got time. We'll have time. Hell no, that thing, we were going, going, going. The nice part is, though, it had the lights. had the lights had the lights on it it flash so but you got to get the it to it well you got to get

the it flashes in different ways so it's like half full yeah three quarters i'm fucking full get over here so i i need to figure out there was an adjustment on that yeah and i couldn't figure that out because it was flashing when it was like just past the window yeah it started flashing i'm like what's not but you're he doesn't have to shit his pants yet yeah a little bit of the time. So the 9570, you had, you had a hopper extension on that. What did that thing hold? I did. I want to say it held about 300 and 10 or 20 bushels. So what does what does the regular, so there's no extension on the 660 now. What's it hold? Well, they're all aftermarket. Oh, if you go buy a combine, it's just the flat top combine. I'm sure deer makes them. Yeah.

but Maurer yeah crary like all those aftermarket people are the ones who really make the nice hopper extensions

I don't know what a 660 would be what it held well stock the other thing is you're running an eight row head and so

yeah that was so yeah the eight row head on the 9570 I mean they say it's good for it I mean not good for it but

957 can can run run that big of a head. You just don't run that fast. Yeah, you can't run that fast with the five. The 660 though can run quicker. Yeah. That could have been the, that could have been the thing too. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and being, so yeah, all the other years before, so we've always had kind of the fuel problem with the combine. We could still run a decent clip in corn. Yeah. Well, I got to the point this year, which I think when I had to get the new moisture sensor, they had to upload a different program into the combine.

And then that convinced it that it was way short on power. And then I think that derated it even more. Oh, yeah, right. Because I went from running fine in corn to worse than I ever had, really in beans. Well, not really worse than never in beans. About the same in beans. Yeah. And then once he put that new more,

moisture sensor and I just had problems in corn. Yeah, yeah. I've never had before. Yeah. When he's like, do you want me to clear out all these codes? Yeah, sure. And then it was like, oh boy. Yeah. Nothing but problems. Yeah, I, uh, I think that's been on the YouTube video before. I've talked about beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Yeah. Constant beeping at me. Yep. So I got a year or two, probably with the new one until that starts happening again, I'm sure. Do you like your decision though? Are you happy with 660? I do. The first payment's due in October. Yeah. Like you right now. We'll talk about it then. Yeah. Oh shit. Yeah. Or until they come back and say, yeah, well, it needs a new engine. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll split it with here or something. Yeah, it's got deaf too. I'm not real.

Yeah, well, that's screwed now. That is a true pain in the ass. Yeah. We're all kind of screwed now on that. We don't have it. We didn't have anything that had death until we bought that 331. I you know I wasn't really around it and I was I asked dad I was like this deaf thing like what the fuck's to deal with that and you're like well get used to it

because it's in everything now yeah everything new 90 90 horse I think is it because there's there's delete options for yeah things there are it's expensive but it probably comes with the fine well it's not that it's it's not that it's

I mean, there's a cost there, but it's also just the, it's the convenience of it. Because you fill up one and, you know, you don't empty at the same time. Like you don't think about it, like you don't think about it because you're not used to it. So you fill it up with fuel. And then you're out fucking around somewhere doing something. The next thing you know, it starts beeping at you that, oh, I didn't fill the death tank, you know. And it's just one more. You don't fill it soon.

We'll call the EPA. Yeah, I know. I know. Somebody needs to defund them so their phone bill. Don't pay their phone bill. But anyway, it's the world we live in. So we raised the best, I mean, well, for us, we raised the best crop we've ever had. So how is the result for you?

It was, yeah, right there. 2017 or 18 was better. But, yeah, we were right there. Yeah, it's crazy. Beans were. Yeah. Yeah, beans. Yeah, I should have prefaced that.

We weren't, I'm not counting beans. I guess corn raised the best corn we've ever had. Yeah. Yeah, and I don't... I don't know how, but... Rime or reason, I don't know how or why. The only thing I can figure is that dry, early spell. They just didn't get enough growth on them, I think.

I think that... If they could have gotten a little more height on them before we got that rain, I think they probably would have been pretty decent. Yeah, I'm talking to corn. Oh, yeah. That early dry spell for corn was good. just a little too long. Yeah, not good for beans. So yeah, we got done with corn and we,

we had a hot toddy in the field and Sawyer and I came home and slept and felt like a million bucks. And then David went home and then walked his machine shed and looked at his manure bar and went, oh, shit. Here it comes. Yeah. Yeah, the big top traveling shit show is what I call it. Yeah. Yeah, we ended up doing, oh gosh, I think it was about seven million. gallon again this year. So yeah, it was, yeah, that was, that was fun. Me and the old father-in-law struggled through first three jobs. And then Dwayne Hammond jumped in and helped us out throughout the rest of it. So it went well at the end of the day. Yeah, and you didn't really have, you didn't have to rebuild your pump this year. No, I didn't have to rebuild my pump. My drag line is

totally shot, though. So I got to buy a hose. Yeah, I got to buy a new dragline next year apparently so i did the math i think this was my fourth season on it and then i just kind of estimated um how many acres i'd done and then figured that i drag that i drug that thing about 5 000 miles well that's pretty good then well yeah i mean if somebody drug my ass for 5 000 miles i'd probably have a hole in it too so yeah you wouldn't look as good as the hose does right so yeah that's my I've got plans for next, well, I sit in the tractor as it's auto steering and I write down things that would help me next year. I'm like, okay, auto valves on the lead pump so I could

shoot the pig whenever I needed to. Um, or just shut off flow. Yeah. Oh, and then, um, modifications to the air hose, just things like that, but yeah, once your biggest, corn prices started going down. I'm like, do I really need it? Yeah. Well, your biggest, your biggest opportunity is anything that you can automate because you run so, you run so thin on. I think most guys are probably in the same boat in the fact that labor is their biggest, their biggest deal, but there's some guys out there that are, that are draglining that have hired men full time doing something else the rest of the year that they bring in for that. Yeah. I, I, I, I, So my father-in-law, God bless him, he was there for me.

He helped us last year and then he was there again this year. And that was huge. And then, yeah, when Dwayne jumped in, once he got done, he helps another local farmer out doing some custom work. But once he jumped in, that was huge. I know that there is, oh, there's like an exchange. There's an H-1B visa program or something with South African kids. Yeah.

That's what you need. Yeah. Yep Not sure about that You get them And then we'll see We'll see how much Let me share them

Yeah we'll see how much You got some where to put them How much talent they got And if they've got Give them a GoPro Yeah give them a GoPro If they've got some personality I bet they would be funny as hell

Oh they wouldn't be On a YouTube Yep Yeah You just said that you're having trouble Keeping your house warm Just have them live with you No problem

Right Yeah I guess that's the thing is you got to put them up somewhere and then get them a vehicle to drive. Yep. Well, you're almost there. You got more damn vehicles than you can drive anyway. The vehicles things will not be a problem. Hell, you got the camper sitting there.

You ain't got time to go camping anyway. I wonder if an old Chevy cargo van would count as transportation and. I think if you put it up on blocks to where it can't move. Oh, no, I don't think you can have it move. No. I think if you get a van and put it on blocks. I know a camper works. They say that you can put them in a camper, but I don't know what.

Put them in my camper. If stuff freezes, that would be bad. That would cause more problems than anything. Just add on to the workroom in the north building. Bunk house. Put a muck house out the north side. Oh, hey, I have an idea. Yep, there you go.

Chore guy. Yep, yep. Perfect. Does Kailen watch this? Put Kailen. Kailen, he's... Kailen's my chore guy. He's just using that for gambling money anyway.

He don't need it. He don't need it. And then excuse to get away from his wife, probably. Yep. Yep. He'll be on to something else. We could maybe do that. See?

I think we're getting to figure it out. Oh, great ideas. And you guys would have a chore guy too. We could. We could do the whole thing. I don't know. Are they allowed to stay? whole year though? I think it's...

They got to go back. They got to go back. It takes two weeks. I think... You go back for two and then come back? So they have to go back and reapply. However, if you have one of these agencies that's doing the paperwork for you, they can pretty much have all the paperwork ready and sent to the consulate, I think, when they go back and then they only have to... I think they only physically, somebody's going to correct us on this, I guarantee it,

because my experience with it on the hog side, when we first started that, I thought they had to be there like a month. But what they found out was back home. But part of that's because they're allowing like travel time and all this stuff. Yeah. And if you have an agency that's really good at what they're doing, they can have all the paperwork done and to the comments. to where they only have to be in country, like two weeks, and then it can be processed and they can come back. So they take some of my money and travel the world on the way back? I don't know. Most of them... That's how I'd do it if I were... Well, I know, but they're... Nobody'd hire you.

Well, you do. We do. I was just going to say, look at you. It's pretty low. When I was younger, you're saying. Yes, right. Right. You got you. You or the wed off boys. None of you would be good candidates for a work, more like work release, not work around the world. Yeah. My wife and I talked about our quality of life going forward. And she's like, well, if we do this scenario that we were talking about, she's like, our life would be terrible. And I'm like, well, we might get to the point where if we don't do that, then my life is going to be terrible. Right. So. Exactly. Yeah, we're going to have to. We either share the pain. or it's just paying for me.

Right, right. I don't know. It's damn expensive being a man. No, but yeah, anyway, so back to the manure, we have one pump and then a booster. And luckily, so we talked about, well, we were just talking about the hiring of the South Africans, but Riches hire South Africans.

And I think it's just Darren in one of them. other guy. Yeah. But yeah, thanks to them too. They were huge. They gave me a pump to run and that was props to them. They're fantastic people. Yeah. That helped me out quite a bit because you get strung out a long ways, your gallons just fall off. Yeah. Unless you don't have those pumps in there. We run a six inch feed line and I don't like to push my pressures too much. So I've been running pressures 200 pounds tops because I got hoses almost as old as Sawyer, I think. Yeah, probably older than Sawyer for my feeder hoses. And we were told, don't go over 200.

Yeah. Well, I guess burst pressure on them is like 400. So you amped her up a little bit. Well, no, I didn't. I stayed with what I was. I think, and in talking to Darren, he's like, the more pumps you can put in line, the lower you can run your pressures.

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have you talked to them about that? No. They don't know what it is. So Harvest Lab 3,000 is a program that, or a piece of equipment, I guess that deer came up with, a system that deer came up with. Most of it is in the system, but there is some, or it is in the equipment, but there is some software update that's still like $5,000. But it started on silage machines. But it uses infrared or near-infrared light to measure the nutrients in the silage. And then they converted that into a system that measures the nutrients in hog manure.

Yep. So we hung that on the stinger of our manure bar. And then it tells me live as we're going through the field how much nitrogen I'm putting on per acre. It measures it in real time. Yeah, in real time in any given minute. Nitrogen, potassium, phosphorus, and then pretty cool, the amount of organic matter and dry matter. So what you're saying is when you're putting in manure into the ground, we're not just doing this shit blindly. Right.

We're not just pouring this shit onto the field without knowing what the fuck we're doing. Exactly. Yeah. Well, and that's just what it was. So because that's what a lot of people think farmers do. Or if you have no perspective, it's what it seems like people think we do. Right.

The method without that is you go out and you sample your pit. Now you're supposed to get a composite view. You get a full profile. Yep. View like the whole depth of the manure. Yep. And then send, put that in a bucket and stir it up.

Stir it up. Send that in and then they tell you how much nitrogen, potassium, phosphorus is in it as well as whatever else. Myriad of other stuff, sulfur and whatever. But that changes. So when you start out in a pit, I mean, I've noticed we're looking at

oh, three to five percent organic matter as you get started in a manure or in a pit. And then as you go down, that number climbs because I mean, it gets thicker. There's just only so much stirring you can do to get a homogenous mix. you're just not going to get it. So you pull mainly liquid for out the top 60%,

and then you get down to that bottom 20 to 40%, and it starts getting thick. Yeah. And then that changes your night, all three of your numbers, your NP and K, they all change. I bought it for the hopes that I could kind of control how much I was putting on,

but when you, you're dealing with limited manure to what you're putting on your ground. The best you can, that I can figure out to do right now at this point is put on a flat rate and then I'm going to come back later. Yeah. And then do more like a prescription NPK plan afterwards to try to get everything to even out. Yeah. So for us, what I love about it is before you, you were painting your fields.

with a broad brush. Yeah, broad brush. So you were saying, it was nothing but rate. Right. Yeah. You took a sample and that sample said that you had,

if you put 5,000 gallons of manure on, based on that rate, you were putting on 200 pounds of nitrogen, although you're really not, because the first thing you got to know about manure is not all of that is available the first year. So the first thing you do is you discount that. and say, okay, if I'm putting 200 pounds on, 50% of it.

50% of it. If you really want to be aggressive, you can say 70, but there's a lot of work now that people think it's more like 50% of that is available the first year. So you have to discount it. But then the problem is, just like you said, that sample you used, that literally is just like reaching up and grabbing a number out of the sky because as you pump that pit,

it changes. The numbers are going to change. So at the end of the day, all you know that you did is you know you put X number thousands of gallons on. Yeah. And you hope that it's somewhere, well,

you hope that you at least got enough nitrogen that when you come back and side dress, that's going to make up. Yeah. That is going to get you to the units that you want to be for what you're, where do you want to be if people don't know? And it's so, yeah,

what's kind of tough. and I'm not happy about it. I'd like to apply manure in the spring or during the summer during the growing season, but I'm afraid I wouldn't get any of it done. Yep. But it tells me when I put the manure on, it maps my total in. So that's ammonium nitrate, which is more water soluble and it's more likely to go away, as well as that stuff that you're talking about is tied up in the soil.

So, I mean, I can go out and put on 300 pounds of nitrogen, but... Amazon presents Jeff versus Taco Truck Salsa, whether it's Verde, Roja, or the orange one. For Jeff, trying any salsa is like playing Russian roulette with a flamethrower. luckily Jeff saved with Amazon and stocked up on antacids ginger tea and milk Haboniero more like habanier yes save the everyday with Amazon yeah how much of it's actually there how much is it going to be there yeah yeah so people people that don't know pretty much the equation on nitrogen is just about if you think if your ground if you're shooting for 250 bushel corn your ground can grow that you about

got to have 250 units of nitrogen to get it there. Per acre. But most, like for us, we're kind of, one, we're limited in the fact that we're going to pump all the manure that we have. And however far that gets us, we're going to make the manure last to cover all of our corn acres, which means that we may not put on. We're not shooting for 300 everywhere because we couldn't do that. Right.

whatever number you say yeah whatever it is so it's more about we're going to try to take the total number of gallons we have and make them cover everything and then whatever that ends up being for the amount of nitrogen we have it probably is not going to be that whole 250 units yeah so we're going to make up the difference in side dressing or we're going to put some on in the plan or in side dress or worst case scenario we're going to fly some on or put some on with drops or something like that so it's not like we're trying to fill our whole our whole fertility program just out of the manure because we know

that we probably aren't going to get there. But the deer system is way better in the fact that even though we're volume restricted, in other words, even if we knew as we're putting it on that we're not putting on as much as we need, we do know what's out of the

there so then we can make that adjustment when we go to put on for our fertility program long term yeah so we can say okay well we just took a look at the yield maps yesterday and that was really nice to be able to be like okay you're good here and you're you're a little low here so you kind of have you can plan out where you're going to side dress more or less yeah then the predictor programs they have and i'll tell you how much you used yeah yeah yeah your last soil sample and how much you need to to to supplement. No, I did. So I've been using RTK and putting all my manure in furrow. I did that for you guys too. But last year, last summer when it came to side dress time, I was like, how much do I have? So I went out and I sampled in each row. And it came back saying that I had 600 pounds of nitrogen

an acre. And the guy, the guy at the lab is like, I don't think he has that. He's probably should shouldn't have probed right. You are probing right in the furrow. He's probably shouldn't have probed right in the row. But he's like, I would guess you're probably in that 150 pound range. And he's like, to be honest, he goes, we have no idea. We, the people in the labs, don't have any idea what to tell you you have out there. Right.

Because nobody really knows how far, how far that manure, how far the plant can pull it from that furrow. well you know it can pull it it's just at what stage is it pulling it to where can it pull it when it needs it? Is it have to be this far? Yeah, that's interesting. That's really interesting. So you have a minivan, you have an enclave, you have a one-ton

Chevy pickup, you have a three-quarter ton Chevy pickup, you have the Civic, you still have the Colorado, and then you have your dad's, do you still have the Denali pickup? We don't have a one-time. We don't have a one-ton. ton. No, his black pickup.

Yeah. Oh, that is a one. Yeah, that's a one ton. Yeah. You have it? Mm-hmm. Yeah. So out of all those vehicles, when you walk out of the house, you head for the Civic.

You know, I don't, you know, I don't blame you for not being able to get every vehicle oil on the ton time. Right. It's a challenge. It is a challenge. You know that you're going to be, you're going to be that old farmer that everybody thinks has cream can. I'm going to be set when every. everybody else's vehicle shit out and they still want a internal combustion motor and everything that's left is electric. Oh, is that your ploy? You're going to be stacked. I see. And I've got three kids getting

close to driving age too. Yeah, that's the nice, I was going to say, that's a nice part for you. Civic, Colorado. Why sell it? Yeah, Civic and the Colorado, perfect. The Civic might be kind of tough since it don't have a speedometer, but maybe that would get them out of a ticket. Just put a, just put a wooden walk. Screw wooden block to... I'll give that to my daughter. Just screw a wooden block to the accelerator that you can't get it to go down all the way. Yeah.

That'll work. I'll put radiation and I'm like, this is interstate speed and then flip it up. Yeah. Yep. Yep. That sounds like a plan.

And just keep it in second gear in town. Okay. Well, I'm glad that you... I'm just glad you were able to make it here. The 5.3 miles to get here. So... Yeah. We were talking about manure.

And you brought up a good point. Well, I was just listening to you talk about what's the goal is to get all your acres covered best you can. But also, the reason we don't overdo it for every acre is because your soil type matters, like big time. So, you know, for us, our soil type, us going for 300 bushels an acre doesn't make sense for where we're at. Maybe in the future of hybrid to get better, that might be a possibility for, but for us right now, that doesn't make sense. sense. But going for $250. does. Yeah, right. But there are people that have soil

types that it would make no sense for you to strive for putting on 250 pounds of units of nitrogen. Because you're just, the soil cannot, that plant, you're not going to be able to raise a crop that big. Yeah. And so that's all the reason people have manure management

plans and you variable rate. And that's why we have all this technology because the other thing is that product, I think people don't realize that today, that manure is valuable. Like, if I wasn't utilizing it all, there's all kinds of people that I could sell that manure too that would want it. Yeah. Because it's pretty well proven out that there are elements to that manure that are, make it higher quality than commercial fertilizers. There's plenty of things in there, the organic matter. Yeah, it's not just the nitrogen. Yeah. It's everything you get. So it's not like

there's no incentive to over-apply it if you can't use it because it's too valuable to not use it efficiently. Yeah, for sure. Great. Great for the people that think we just throw the shit in the ditches. Yeah. Just to get rid of it. Yeah. We just got to throw that shit out there, you know?

Yep. We're very efficient. I see comments that there's people that have no idea. They like, they like tuning into our episodes that have no association with farming, and we just want to make sure if those people are taking care of. I'll just come here, not grass feeding your pigs. Oh gosh. We are feeding them a vegan diet, though.

You would be surprised when we get those kind of comments. Man, drives you nuts. Drives you nuts. I'm not even going to go down in that rabbit hole. That pig ain't going to look good if you grass feed it. Yeah. Pigs don't take to the grass very well. They just root it up and wallowing.

Yeah, they'd rather have the dirt underneath than the actual grass. So, yeah. Can't grow a pig on grasks. Not very well. Feed it to happy grass. Yeah. Happy pigs come from Iowa. so I've always been curious about this and this is just I feel like there's a lot of farmers out there

well obviously struggling but there's a lot of young farmers out there looking to get in or maybe they're looking to diversify their operation I feel like you've done pretty good job of that you're you do a lot of custom stuff and like you're in that you do that in all all all levels of the playing field when it comes to farming do you feel like that's like that's the most like is manure the most lucrative thing you do is all of it kind of add up is it if there's a young guy out there like how do you make that work if he's like shit i need to do something to bring value to the operation or help us grow this thing like do you have any advice becoming a custom operator custom combating and planning there ain't as much money as there is in manure um but when it comes

to manure the cost of equipment is a lot more um Um, yeah, kind of the reason when I came to the farm in 2012, dad had just gotten into, um, draglining. And I wanted absolutely nothing to do with the custom work because I wanted to work my ground every fall, which I've gone away from that now. Yep. Glad I have because I didn't like what I was doing with working the ground. I wanted nothing to do with the custom side of it. But our equipment was old and it was. was junk when we bought it.

Yep. So the light bulb came on and said, well, if I want to do better equipment to get ours done better and more efficiently, well, then I'm going to have to supplement our income a little bit more so we can afford maybe a new drag line and some other stuff like that. So, yeah, I mean, we're kind of at the point where we're just breaking even right now as far as keeping the drag line stuff going. Like I said, I've got improvements that I want to make, another booster. pump would be great something that i could control from the tractor cab um not even the budget this

year we'll have to pay off a few loans and then maybe we can get to that point but that's kind of why i'm in the in the drag line for custom work um is to help pay for the equipment that we're running yeah i mean if if you if you've got it for your own farm and you can do it for others though yeah absolutely definitely I would look at doing custom work for other people for sure the other advantage it packs a lot of stuff on in the fall yeah though that's I mean yeah you're busy you're busy in the fall granted granted planning don't take but four or five days for us but if that's your only window in the spring that's still what makes me nervous that's still I don't want to do manure in the spring plus you're adding more moisture to a ground that you really need to be about as dry as possible when you plant.

Do you feel like also what's nice about doing combining with us and planting with us? We're like, do you feel like it's a, you shouldn't do custom work for people that have very different operations in years? Like as far as if we had too many acres or not enough acres versus, we have similar sized operations, I would say. Yeah. Close. So it's easy to, when you get done planting,

you can just hop over here do this it's not easy but it's easier than yeah what works out for us is you've got gentle rolling hills and you're usually a little drier before we are in the yeah in the springtime when it comes to planting so that diversity definitely helps us the other thing that makes it easy is when we work together on that when i go to the chemical guy and he's like what do you want to do with this or that i go can't blow it up your ass well what's david doing right he'll go well david's doing this say, well, then that's probably what we're going to do then because that's what's going to be on the planners. Yeah.

We're not going to do that. So it makes it easy. Yeah. I'm handcuffed. I can only do one system on the planner. And I go back and forth like every other year is I'm putting info stuff in or then I'm doing two by two starter and I'm back to two by two starter again this year. So.

The other thing that you've got going though for you, to your point about bringing an extra income, part of what makes what you've been able to do work is you're handy. Your father was very handy and you're handy. Because that's not a moneymaker, but the amount of money in a given year that you save, because I explain this to people, whenever we break something, the average person would pick get their phone and the first thought is who in the hell am i going to call david's first thought is yeah uh what's that look like i think i think i got a piece laying around i think we can just cut that if we just cut that out right there and we get some you know we tack that in and we get some expanding foam and some tape i i think we'll be fine i think we can finish duct tape baling wire and

Yeah. And he can weld. He can weld too. Yeah, you sell yourself short. You're pretty good with the welding rod. We had a deal. So this fall, the overhead door in the shop took a shit on me. So we want to all fall, me and the father-in-law and Dwayne. Oh, man. I shouldn't have the time to fix it then. And we had to get stuff in the air compressor we got. I don't like to start in the winter. Yep.

Or when it gets below like 50. so just last week i was like hey the snow i think is pretty much gone yep so let's get the bucket lift in the shop and get up there and work on it and sure enough it was just um a keyway had fallen out of the drive shaft on the main pulley so it was just spint spinning on that shaft up there well then i decided to do regular maintenance on it and i start lubing stuff up and then you're like, oh, well, that bearing looks like it's about ready to go out. Shouldn't have done that. Should have walked away.

It walked away. But then you don't know when it is going to go out. So I'm like, okay, I'll just go ahead and fix it now. I called overhead door company. The thing was put up in 88 when dad and mom put the shop in the barn. Yep. Oh, that unit. No, we don't have parts for that anymore.

Great. It was like a little, you know those press and wheels that's on a, a hand truck. Yep. On those, that's what that bearing was, just a little bit. One grade up.

One grade up, minor step up, but it lasted this long. Yep. So I ordered one online, and it didn't, it wasn't going to fit anyway, but I don't think it would have lasted a couple years.

So I had to go to A. And I grabbed a three-quarter-inch bearing, like a standard auger bearing. And then I couldn't find, they didn't have the carrier there. Yep. I went over to the new track. or supply company, I think they're trying to be just like Orshlands.

So they have a bin? They only had one. Oh, yeah. Well, that'd be. They only had one altogether. They only had one carrier for that bearing. And it was the exact one I needed. Was your lucky day then?

My lucky day. So anyway, I took that home and then I came up with the way that I put a block behind it so I could use a hole saw rather than sit there with a die grinder and go like this for, I'd probably still be doing it. Yep. But I drilled that hole out, put two drill. put two holes in it and now we're back up and running the garage door. It's good for a decade. The garage will probably, yeah, I don't know if it's going to be good for another 35 years, but

it might be good enough for you until somebody else has to fix it. Right. So that's, that's kind of the thing you weigh when you do your own fix it projects is, okay, I can fix it, but it'll probably take me, that took me a week and a half to do just a little simple fix on a garage door, whereas you hire the big boys in and of course it'd be they would have seen that and it had been five trips and they would have recommended a whole new unit but they would have got it done probably in less time than i spent on it but they would have charged you to look at it wasted some time and then just said you need a whole new unit charge you for the whole new unit but didn't bring a whole new unit right so they could ding you two or three times on the on the trip charge right yeah it's i don't know stuff's i feel like we've piled up enough

stuff that now it's getting harder to fix everything. I've got my, the engine on the 4440 started puking out, antifreeze. I think it's probably just something easy like a head gasket, but that thing's got, the tractor itself, I'm sure, has got 20,000 on it. I don't know if it was overhauled before we got it at the 10,000 mark.

Yep. So, I mean, I could pop the head and put a new head gasket on it, but that would be dumb. Yep. Well, you got the head off. You might as well rebuild her. Give her an overhaul, but I don't know that I got the time to do it. To do that.

Yep. I know what an overhaul kit cost through the Deer store. Yep. A lot better than a new motor. Yep. Or a remand motor. 100%. Just takes time.

And then the other thought of my head is, well, I'll just put a remand in and then I'll take that motor out and I'll set it off to the side. And then I'll use that as a manure pump later. But then I'm like, then I got to buy a radio. and a starter and a because the remands are just block itself. You're just a mad scientist. You already got one motor sitting in there

waiting for you to put a... I do. Yeah, that would run a six-inch hole pump. Yeah, well, that would run it. That's a 200-50 horse motor. Just a little more time. That was my other thing too. I'm like, okay, well, I'll build my own pump this year, but time and again, the money factor with $4 corn

I don't think is going to happen this year. Yeah, so that when you look at, to you look we're in 24 we're getting you know every day we're a little closer to somebody feeling like they ought to go plant corn what you may have already answered this question so what do you think 24 like what do you think is priority number one for crop year 24 it's the family and friends event at shopper's drug mark get 20% off almost all regular priced merchandise two days only Tuesday April 28th and Wednesday April 29th. Open your PC optimum app to get your coupon. A different leadership. Do you have, have, have you put razor wire around the property at

Tall Corn Acres? Do I need it? I don't know. I'm just curious. No, we're talking about China. I thought of this one. We were talking about China's population bomb. Yeah. I have a solution for Chicago and New York. Load them up. Load them up. Send them over to China. There you go. Most of them are probably from China anyway. Yeah. Could be. Send them. Could be. There you go. Yeah, the razor wire. thing, is that a reference to the border? Well, I know it's to the border, but there's a guy that straight up ass, didn't he say he's taken away razor wire

from the border patrol agency because it's going to help them get to illegals faster coming over the border? They're getting rid of razor wire. That's why they want to get rid of it. So it's easier for them to get out? No, it's easier for the border patrol to. Oh,

apprehend the illegal immigrants. I thought when they were tangled up in the razor wire, they're pretty hard to get away from it. Let me dance around this question. So, well, yeah, I, yeah. Oh, there I went using logic. I'm sorry, not supposed to use logic. No, throw them out the window.

Well, let's just throw that in there. So to me, I think 24 went from, I always have grand ideas of things I want to add to the farm. And I think, okay, well, next year, we're going to be in good shape to do this or that. And then inevitably, this time of year, you look out at the environment and you go, okay, no, this year will be a good year just to try to keep your shit together for another year. Yeah. So, uh, down the hatches. Dup tape and bailing wire everything and squeaker through.

I had a question in here. I had a question in here that, um, if you had any, uh, if you were, um, if you were, contemplating it all, stepping up to an 8R in anything, so you could sell Sawyer your 8420 because he'd really like to have it. That's his mistress. Does your girlfriend know about 8420?

Oh, I don't know. You gave her a ride on. Yeah, that's, that's, I spent some time in there. You've seen that. I've rode, I've rode it a few two times. You made you too much. So, yeah, I guess my, my switch for this year is I still haven't bought it yet but I plan to is that strip till rig yeah um it's gonna get hairy because the only thing that

i can really run it i could run it with the 9460 but big old balloon tires on that thing and and it's a three point mount yeah i don't know that that would do well on my pinch rows i'd be pinching at like six rows every pass yeah with that big hog so uh yeah when it comes go time i'm gonna have my planner already hooked up and ready to go, but then unhook it and hook up to the strip-till rig and then go do all my strip-telling and then... You're not ready to go back to the 46th? You're not going to put the plan on the 460.

No, I'm not ready to go back to the 4640 on the planner. Okay. So sorry, Sawyer, she's not available. I'm actually, if there was another tractor coming in, I'm going to need it. I wouldn't sell it either. It's too good. There's a guy...

There's a deer dealer told me that was pretty much about, the perfect best tractor ever made there's a guy in Illinois I would agree or there's a guy in Nebraska that's selling a 8530 with 1887 original hours on it what do you what do you think he wants for it 250 what are you guessing you're damn good uh 247 5 and he'll have no problem getting that I bet we uh so we're doing dad's estate now and I don't know what it had on it when we got it but I know Dwight Duo came back and said it's worth more now than it was in 2008 when we bought it. Well, those pre-deaf. Well, dollar-wise, it's worth more, but yeah, that's because dollar's worth about half what it was in 2000. True. And you got to go replace it. That's the whole thing.

It's, yeah, pre-deaf, low, low-ish hours. Yeah. 4,800 hours on it. Yep. Nope, can't beat it. So, yeah, that's, that's my upgrade for this year. It's going to be kind of a hassle in the spring. and I'm excited to see. So I'm hoping that fixes my emergence issues. With stripping my manure, I want to get my seed as close to dead center where that manure went. Yep. And I just had hair pinning last year, and it kind of crusted up the seed bed. Yep.

So that's my thought is what that's going to do is alleviate some of that. Yeah, and you'll get it warm up just a little bit. It'll warm up a little bit better, dry out a little bit faster. That's the big thing. So I went out and I bought, well, years ago we bought row cleaners. And I agree that they clean the row, but if your field is not a constant blanket of that fodder over the row, what you just uncovered is not going to warm up as fast as what was already bare dirt. Right.

Yeah. I agree. Especially when we're planting, it's, I mean, our daytime highs are pushing 70. Yeah. At best, nighttime lows are still in the 40s and 50s. So you're not putting that much heat in the ground if you're just uncovering it that day. Right. So.

I was just going to say, I want to switch gears a little bit. Are you guys still want to have your farmer cap on or do you want to get crazy with it vertically? You better get the tinfoil out. I know. Tinfoil or farmer hat. I could do another one of these, I guess. You're good on time. You got anything else you want to say about farming?

No, I think we got it. We're going to try to hold our shit together, and that's about it. That's about all you can do. I am interesting to see your solids manure and how that pans out. We are too. And I would, if it got to the point where I could do that with the strip till rig. Yeah. I'd get rid of most of my manure stuff. Yeah. I know that's what I think is fascinating about it is if we could get, if we could convert to a solid manure and a very consistent product

where you knew what the analysis was and then you could apply that. If you could apply that in a strip and then use your strip till to incorporate it, I think that would be a sweet. Yeah, even with my with my vertical till colters, I'm cutting a slot in the ground and that manure is infiltrating, but I still think I'm going to have some soil stratification. I don't think that all of the P and the K that I'm putting on is getting...

Is getting in there. Down into the ground. And if I'm going no-till, I think we're going to start having shortage on P and K. I agree with you. Yeah, I think that, I think... I think we're on the same logic.

We just, we're getting... We're on the, I would say we're on the, we're kind of on the last, we're on the last, uh, hurdle to get, to start, uh, building our building and get that machine set. And we're hoping that early this spring we're going to be separating manure. So as soon as we can start getting a product that, so we can figure out what we've got and what the value is and what kind of a rate we would be applying it at. Yeah. Then I think we'll let old Handy Andy over there figure out how to get it going.

Pick up the shit. You're going to be looking at, so when I put on 5,000 gallon an acre, it's in the 200-pound range of solid. So that's what you're going to be spreading. I don't know what that compares to. It's not very much. Commercial fertilizer-wise. Yeah.

Oh, it's pretty, I'd say it's pretty comfortable. Is that how much they put on commercially? Oh, no, I don't think so, but a machine like us, as far as a spreader goes, I think you're right in there. I don't think you have any trouble getting something to spread it at that rate. I think it'll be pretty easy. The thing that I'm most interested in is trying to figure out a way, and it may not matter. It really may not matter. I was just thinking, boy, it'd be great if you could somehow spread it banded.

Yeah. because what you're getting between where you're strip tilling isn't going to get incorporated, but it may not be that, it may not be that big a deal. Yeah. I think, I think people that have been note telling are going to kind of see, well, I'm not utilizing all that stuff I've been paying for. It's all said. It goes, it goes in the soil this much.

Yeah, that's right. Every year. That's right. So you really got to wonder how, how long we can go before, we have issues and I don't know well I figure that out but to that extent no tellers will yell at us well we've been no telling for 30 years and we've got no problems really good yeah so I don't know maybe it's something that we're blowing out of proportion you gotta try to know trial and error trial and error baby got to get the yields up somehow like govern this country

trial and error yeah yeah let's get you aware maybe that's not quite to see let's get ourselves canceled what you say all right well I was just going to ask you what what uh What do you think about the craziness of this year? What do you think 2024 is going to hold? Who do you think is going to get elected? Just your overall thoughts of this of 2024. Well, it'll be dumber than last year. Yeah.

I can promise you that. Yeah. Props to Texas for finally doing something. Yeah. I don't know why you'd wait for the courts when you know what the courts are going to tell you. I mean, they could have shut the border when I was a kid. Mm-hmm. Yep.

Wall should have been built decades ago. Yeah, and we can shut the border today. I'm not totally sure. People seem to be really wanting to tell you that this bill to give a bunch of money to Ukraine and a bunch of money to Israel and a bunch of money for amnesty and a little bit of money to secure the border. We could shut the border down tomorrow if we wanted to. Right.

And we could have shut it down. And let's not forget. Take some money away from the who and the U.N. and let's not forget that we already we already raised a bunch of money last year and the year before and the year before that. I mean, we've been funding border security

for a long time. Every other country but ours. I don't know why it is all of a sudden that we need all this money. Why do you think why do you actually think? Because let's be honest, it's intentional and I don't think it's out of stupidity. I don't think they're stupid. What do you think it is?

Do you think it's votes? 100%. Or chaos. Do you think they want chaos? George Soros and the color revolution. Yeah. He has heard of these. World economic form. He's collapsed multiple countries this way.

Yep. And he made a lot of money. He calls it and made a lot of money. That's how he made his money. He was, yeah, destroying economies. So, yeah, I mean, he's just trying to destroy the world. Destroy the U.S. through his color revolution. And, yeah, everyone that comes in will vote the right way.

Yeah. According to the world. I don't even think it's that. I don't even think it's on a national scale. I think at the end of the day, because they don't have to be. Well, for the United States, it doesn't have to be anything greater than can you flip Texas? Right. Yeah. If you flip Texas, the rest of it doesn't matter. Yeah. If you flip Texas, the rest doesn't matter. Because you've got the East Coast, you've got the West Coast. They're not leaving them all in Texas. That's not by their choice, though. Yeah. That's Texas's choice that they're busts them all over God's green earth. Yeah. So for, well, and that's not good either. No, none of them. It's not. It's good. They're going to get to Chicago and New York and go, this place is a hell hole. I'm going to go to Iowa or I'm going to go to Ohio. I'm going to go to tall corn acres. That looks like a great place. He's got plenty of vehicles. Yeah, he's got all kinds of vehicles. I can live in. It's a real nice attic in the hog building. Move right in there. Nice attic.

It'd be like the state farm commercial. The last six months, been the best days of, Best days of my life. That insulation's cloud. Insulation's like a cloud mattress. No, I mean, as far as closing it now, though, like, I guess it is to the point now where Texas does have support from at least half or more of the states. If they'd have shut the border down a few years ago, you probably would have had some states, well, you should have let the court figure it out.

Yeah. It's too far now. We don't know what the court was going to do. you have they shot down Arizona years ago yeah you've got states now that well maybe not the whole state but you definitely have mayors in this country that are far left that even they are speaking up and saying something's got to change now they're not going to step out a line enough over 3,000 people whereas Texas gets at every day yeah and it's only gonna this is only gonna do you think you get to the point where they're like deuses I'm out we're doing our

own we're going to be our own yes depends on how the election i don't know do you think that's a possibility texas is texas is close to flipping without this shit without importing yeah and i saw a video yesterday oakland this lady's showing this video of oakland like this store's closed walmart's even closed here yep where are those people going to go yep they're going to go to a red state And when they get here, how are they going to vote? Yep. Yeah. The wrong way.

I don't think we have to import them from, because people naturally move to an urban area. Yep. A prosperous one. And for some reason, they get dumb when they do that. Do you think they're going to get where food comes from? Do you think Trump will win the election? Do you think they'll let him win? Do you think he'll get it?

I think he'll get there. I don't know. The margin for cheating is going to be a lot larger. Yeah. They're going to have to try a lot harder. They're going to have to find a lot more vans at midnight in Detroit. Vegas odds are 55%. I looked Sunday. Yeah. I don't know about the polls.

So the polls and the primary appear to have been right. But were they manufactured so that non-Trump people just, when it's over, I'm not going to vote. Yep. Mm-hmm. So, I mean, they were dead right, but did they create a real-life scenario narrative out of that? Does Nikki Haley stay in all the way to the... Oh, absolutely.

Yep. Absolutely. I think she's hanging on for, to say, I went all the way to the end. Trump is convicted or he will be convicted. Yep. you got to take me. It's got to be me. And then if she went,

I could even say, the Uniparty says, well, we'll just let her have it. Yep. That way people still think, oh, there's still elections in America.

Yeah, right. I agree with you 100%. I didn't even think about that. She's more dangerous. She is as dangerous or more dangerous than anybody that we get from the Democrat. That's fucking terrible. Yeah,

because then we're all like, eh, things are great. We got a Republican. Oh, Oh, that would be fucking bad. I think it's 100% true. Oh, somebody, I can't take...

Because that's honestly, I can't imagine they look at Biden and go, yeah, that's who we, that's who we trust is going to take us to the promised lander, get our agenda done the next four years. I mean, I... Well, she might be the... You're right. She might be the fucking plan. Because, I mean, I don't know.

She just seems very bought by somebody. Oh, she is. Complex, military, industrial complex. Yeah, the, um, One day, you're negotiating with suppliers. The next, you're installing a shelf in the back room. Running a business means moving in many directions all the time. TD's new small business banking accounts are built for how your business moves.

It's how we're making banking more human. A couple of years ago. She might be just a wolf or sheep hiding. What do people say? She's a wolf and sheep's clothing. Wolf and sheep's clothing. What did Nancy say? A wolf and wolf's clothing.

Yeah. Colossi said that a couple years ago. Yeah. She said you can't yell wolf in the crowded theater, I think, too. Yeah. Yep. She's a hell of a stock picker, though. Right. Yeah.

Damn. Yeah, I'd take care of you guys if I was Nancy. Yep. No, I agree with you. No, I think so about a year ago, there was this big mic kick. Michelle Obama was on TV everywhere. and I could see them throwing her in. I've seen people talk about that too.

There's plenty of soft-headed suburbanites. I'd be like kinder, gentler, back to reality. Yep. The perfect scenario is you get to March, you get to March, and then out of nowhere, not really out of nowhere, because it could happen at any moment,

but out of nowhere, Joe Biden has a health issue that, Can't be overcome. I thought it was funny that of all the states that were looking hard into Hunter was California. Yeah, that's weird. Is that Gavin? Probably. But they're trying to make him look, they're trying to make him look more presidential and more middle.

Yeah, they are. They totally are. Gavin's saying I got the Jacks. I got the Aces in the hole. But I think Biden has, I don't, this sounds crazy. And maybe it is. But if anything's going to happen on that front, it will be Biden. you get past the you get past to where it's too late for them to have a convention the democrats

can't have a convention because it's too late Biden has a health issue nobody wants Kamala nobody wants kamala so the the democratic machine says okay well wouldn't she automatically just become i think so but i don't know how that works with the with the national i don't know how that works within the party yeah you go back to 2020 and you look at the first few states that had the Democratic caucus, or primary, Biden was what, fifth, sixth, and then all of a sudden everybody converges and all of a sudden he's your winner.

I don't think they had a true primary last time. I think he was just handed it. So your idea of Michelle. And yeah, like you said, at the end of this year's primary, they'll say, oh, well, you know, you all voted for Joe, but I don't think he's going to do it. Yeah, we're going to have to come up with a better plan. And he'll do this true statesman thing and just step down.

Step down and he'll endorse the person that he wants to have following, which will not be Kamala because he didn't like her from the start. Yeah. And it will be Michelle or Gavin Newsom. I think it will be Michelle if that happened. Well, I don't see who else it could be, honestly. I really don't. What do you think about Tucker Carlson interviewed in Putin?

That's coming out on Twitter. He's in Russia right now. He's going to interview Putin. Tucker's gone away a lot lately. Yeah. I thought he was going to explode once he got away from Fox. He's on Twitter. He's blown the fuck up on Twitter.

I don't care. I mean, if... I love it. I think it's awesome. I don't know how you can walk into Russia and ask Vladimir a hard question. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's got to tread pretty lightly, but...

I think I'd have to see it to see how he... he asks the questions. I mean, when the Ukraine thing started, Tucker was right. I mean, Ukraine is just a money laundering scheme for... Yeah. But... For the rich... The military industrial complex.

And then it's all coming back to politicians who are invested in that. And it's making the rich oligarchs and Ukraine rich. So Tucker was right there. I'd have to see his interview. I don't think he's, I don't think he's, I don't think he's, judging by his past, I don't think he's,

I think what he wants to do is just show Americans, because I feel like we're very, like, we're censored. We don't see that shit. We don't see what's happening. It's like the farmer's showing us shit anymore. Yeah.

I mean, in the beginning, the farmer strike, there's no way covered. Yeah. It's not, people say it's free, it's free country. We get, We're censored.

I feel our news is social media, same thing. Our news is terrible. We don't get shown anything that goes on outside. Your local news is not at all local. No, not at all. It's a talking point that comes down from national. You get some of the local stories. Yeah.

As long as it's not about anything of us. The local stories are so fun to listen to. Yeah. You can clearly watch them walk you right through what you're supposed to think about it. Yep. Rogan we're just talking about that that's what makes podcast pretty fucking awesome in 24 is just Spotify pays Joe Rogan $250 million to continue doing what he's doing and dad and I were just talking about it's the point you just made local news mainstream media

Tucker going and interviewing Putin all the mainstream media is pissed about it they can't do a fucking thing about it yeah and what we're doing here is important because this is the shit that this is where real America, I feel like, lies, is listen to podcasts. Yeah. Yeah. Tune in to Tucker on his own platform, on X, showing people doing the real news that we want to hear. Like, that's what gives me some hope at least. Yeah, I'm a little bit. I'm a little, I got to be honest with you. Before that dropped, I actually wrote Spotify and I told that we do an exclusive for like $2,500. They, I haven't heard back, but I feel like I feel like I feel like I probably...

We could maybe... They could probably swing $2,500. Well, I feel like I might have swung a little low. I'd do a lot of degrading stuff to get a portion of Joe Rogan's $250 million. Yeah, I think I swung a little low on that. Yeah, maybe just a little... Probably stretched it a little bit. Anyway, uh, maybe they won't reply.

But no, I just, I think that, dad, your point, we had the call the other day and you were just like, this is where, this is where people are at. This is, this is where people trust information. Yeah. And we might not have, we might not say all the right things on barn talk, but we're just talking. This is just people talking. Yeah, we're drinking from a fire hose as far as information that we can get and should get. Yeah.

To remember all that and then regurgitated is kind of hard to do. Yeah. That's right. So anyway, you got anything else? Got anything you want to bring on? My last thing, I love what they're doing in Europe, the farmers. Yes. I don't really like them dumping stuff all over the streets and burning piles.

Because, I mean, then you just turn into the climate activist blocking highways and stuff. Yeah. Turn it into the person they don't want you to be. Or that they're painting you to be. Yeah. Well, yeah, exactly. I mean, that's, can we talk about January 6th? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, that's. Well, we've talked about it on here for. That's exactly what January 6 became is. Yep. It was a trap. Yep. It really was because,

that has gotten that has gotten just it'll be interesting to see how history treats that because we flat out said it's bullshit on here well i know but there is a there is a strong group within this country that are they're literally doing everything they can to have that be like this and they're still throwing people in jail oh yeah the uh the main guy of the Capitol Police that did all the testimony, he wasn't even there. On all that videotape, he wasn't even there. So that's perjury, Jack.

Yeah. And that would kill a lot of those people that you've already got, not kill them, but kill their case against them. Well, is my right? There's a guy that was just released that's done, I don't know, like two and a half, three years, whatever it is. and he's like in a halfway house or he's going to be in a halfway house

in Kansas City. But somebody made the comment that all these people that have been found, that are in jail for this, not a single one of them were ever charged with insurrection. Yeah. They were all charged with all this other unlawful picketing.

I mean, all this stuff. Not a single person has been. Two years at him, 10 years at them. Yeah. The one guy got 22 years and he wasn't even in. and even in D.C. He supposedly said some stuff online. Yeah.

It's some crazy. But I could see, like, that's what I worry about. What's going to happen with the European Farmer Strike? They can bring the military out and something oopsie can happen. And then the media just controls the narrative that it was a trap. I think those guys just feel like they're at the end of the rope, like they don't have any choice. Well, but that's the other part, too, is how far can we really go before our land is going? Our jobs are gone.

Yep. I agree. Because anybody that says it can't happen here, I think they'd be wrong. Media propaganda is a strong, it's a powerful thing. And yeah, you see, I think 2020 taught us a lot about how powerful a narrative can actually fucking be. Yeah. And how it can really mess things up and hurry. Yep.

And I think more people are mindful of it. I hope. I hope they are I hope so I don't you have thought 22 would have turned out a lot better so so uh red wave there's been a lot more redder um credibility of the press of the media as as as at it's is at an all time low yeah it is the lowest point it's been as long as they've been doing a poll um among among republicans people that among people who said what their what their preference were us only 11% of people, and I'm really surprised, they must have really worked hard to find 11% of Republicans

that trust the media, but 11%. And then out of Democrats is 33%. However, out of Democrats that are younger than age 33, it drops to like 16%. So younger people are much less... I don't watch any of that shit. Well, I don't understand. So young people are typically counter-culture.

I feel like that's kind of happening though. I've seen some like Christian type revival stuff has been happening. So maybe that's, maybe that's where the hope will come from. Well, I mean, you look at the baby boomers. That whole generation was counterculture to their parents. Yeah, they need to go away. Yeah, they need to go away. At least from leadership.

But I mean, that was true among them. They were counterculture to their parents. and now you have this generation of, I don't know what you call it. I mean, people that are just, there are no absolutes. And so you have a generation of kids that are looking for structure and they're looking for order. And so maybe it does. I can't imagine being a young person right now and being happy with what's been going on.

Yeah. You've been sold to build goods, go to college, get the degree. you're going to be able to buy all this shit and more you just look at around the world just how people are now people are fucked up more than ever before and it's like

I don't know I've said it once we saw I keep seeing videos like homesteading and traditional values and morals are like becoming popular again well it's because we're like fucking sprinting back to okay this is when shit was like yeah this was all right

like country yeah there was some shit going on but it was most of the time it's pretty level headed, right? Like, we were at a good place. And so I just feel like that is, you're seeing more of that. Like, our, you know, Colonna is a great example for a town that's like, yeah, there's so many, like, millennials, Gen Z years there that are like into homesteading, got a garden, got chickens. Yep. They're fucking can and shit. They're going to church every Sunday. Like, it's, you know. Well, and so I saw one of the propagandist things, it was something I saw, I think it was on Instagram, but one of them was like, yeah, um, that's,

federal government says that growing your own food is less, or has more of a carbon impact on the planet than than traditional farming. I don't know if it's traditional farming even, which is kind of true. Yep. If you buy it in a whole narrative. There is nothing more efficient than modern farming in America today. Right. True. But you're growing your own food on your farm. I'm not going to, I'm not going to, I'm not going to. Yeah. I'm not going to. chastise you for that. It's America. It's free. Grow your own food.

You're not going to produce thousands of bushels for the effort you put into it, but you're not going to be soft of oil. You're not burning big tractors, that stuff. Yeah. I don't know. Well, one thing is certainty. If David doesn't get home in time for the bus to come, he won't be able to go to his ass is grass.

That's true. Yeah, that's true. He's got daddy responsibilities to attend to. So we've got to wrap it up. David, we appreciate you coming on. We got to do it again next year. Maybe hell we'll get you in 24 again. But it was a great year of farming. We had a lot of fun. I can't wait to do it again next year. Glad that you're done doing the manure thing. This year anyway. But we'll make it through. We'll batten down all the hatches and get all, we'll have to stock up on duct tape. We'll get her done. For the head. Yep. Next time we'll have tinfoil hats on here. We'll put on. We keep saying we're going to make them. We've got to take our farmer caps off, put our tinfoil hats on. That would be fun. We're going to do it.

Next year we'll do that. We need a fun hat for that. Yeah, we'll do that. We'll actually get those big. Yeah. Oh, that's a good idea. It's a good idea. I have to rummage around, see if I got them.

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