Barn Talk - This Farmer Has 500K Subscribers and His Neighbors Still Hate Him

Episode Date: March 15, 2026

Welcome back to Barn Talk, where what happens in the barn usually stays in the barn—but not today. In this episode, Tork and Sawyer welcome fifth-generation Minnesota farmer and powerhouse AG creato...r Chet Larson to the show. With nearly half a million YouTube subscribers, Chet Larson has built Larson Farms into one of the most recognized names in agriculture, giving viewers an unfiltered look at the mud, breakdowns, triumphs, and everyday madness of real farm life. In this wide-ranging conversation, the guys dig into what it takes to grow a massive online following while maintaining an authentic farming operation. Chet Larson opens up about the realities behind the scenes—balancing family, filming, and farm work—and shares some hard-won lessons on growth, resilience, and keeping it real amid internet fame. From discussing the evolution of their farm and the challenges of ag media, to honest talk about personal loss, rural isolation, and aspirations for the future, this episode brings you the highs and lows of life on the land—straight from someone who’s living it. Whether you’re in agriculture, love a good comeback story, or just enjoy a dose of farm wisdom and a few laughs, you’ll find something to take away from this conversation. So grab your boots and pull up a seat—it’s time to get real inside the barn today on Barn Talk. JOIN THE BARN TALK NEWSLETTER & GET LIVE EVENT ACCESS: We're on a mission to get 10,000 subscribers, and once we do, we're hosting a live event at the barn! Sign up to get exclusive access to tickets and details.👇🏻 Help us get there: https://www.joinbarntalk.com SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST ➱ https://bit.ly/3a7r3nR   SUBSCRIBE TO THIS’LL DO FARM ➱ https://bit.ly/2X8g45c  LISTEN ON: SPOTIFY ➱ https://open.spotify.com/show/3icVr4KWq4eUDl7Oy60YMY  APPLE ➱ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/barn-talk/id1574395049 Follow Behind The Scenes👇🏻 ● This’ll Do Farm Instagram ➱ https://bit.ly/30KPBNk   ● Barn Talk TikTok ➱ https://bit.ly/3qciekS   ● Sawyer’s Instagram  ➱ https://bit.ly/3BtX0n4   ● Tork’s Instagram ➱ https://bit.ly/3LGZJxS    00:00 "Support and Share Barn Talk" 09:30 Iowa's Odd Traffic Patterns 12:59 "From Followers to YouTuber" 19:41 "Keeping It Real Together" 24:03 "Family Farming Journey Overview" 30:14 "From Nothing to Success" 37:11 Future of Farming: Bigger Farms 38:56 "Farming's Future: Grow or Adapt?" 44:04 "Learning Grain Marketing Independently" 51:31 "Farming Costs and Growth Cycle" 56:27 The Need to Villainize 01:00:42 Agriculture's Combine Trade Evolution 01:05:09 "John Deere Repair Rights Debate" 01:11:43 Public Life's Personal Trade-Offs 01:17:53 "Starting Over: Lost & Rebuilding" 01:23:19 "Family Fun in Nashville Bars" 01:31:12 "Barn Mishap and Silence" 01:37:24 "Future Plans and Farm Life" 01:43:06 "Sentiment vs. Practicality in Keepsakes" 01:45:40 Farm Rescue Event Tonight 01:50:29 "Thanks for Joining Us, Chet ------------------------------- ⚠NO FINANCIAL ADVICE / DISCLAIMER⚠  The Information discussed and shared on Barn Talk is provided for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes only, without any express or implied warranty of any kind, including warranties of accuracy, completeness, or success for any particular purpose. The Information contained in or provided from or through this podcast is not intended to be and does not constitute financial advice, investment advice, trading advice, or any other advice. The Information on this podcast and provided from or through our content is... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All of the food we eat and much of the clothing we wear comes from plants and animals that are raised on farms. Farms are different in type, in size, and even in name. Welcome to Barn Talk. What happens at the barn stays in the barn, but not today. We're going to let it all out for you guys. Today is going to be one hell of an episode. We got a great guest coming to the barn to have a fantastic conversation with us today. You all know him. Most of you probably know him.
Starting point is 00:00:40 he's got a lot of stuff going on. He's a fellow farmer from a different state here in the Midwest. If you don't know him, you should get to know him. You definitely should get to know him. But before we get into it, you guys know the drill. If you get any value from the show, share it out with the people that you know. And I think in this episode today,
Starting point is 00:00:57 you're going to get some value. If we made you laugh, if you're related to us on something, if you learn something, all we ask is you just share it. It's kind of the ticket to admission to watch or listen to the show. Another thing you can do to help us
Starting point is 00:01:10 out here at Barn Talk is leave a review on Spotify or Apple. The more that you guys do that, the more credibility you give our show, which in turn allows us to have more guests come to the barn, to have some conversations with us, make more episodes, and just grow the impact of Barn Talk overall. So thank you to all that do do those two things. It really does make a difference and we love hearing your guys' overall thoughts about the show, whether it's comments on YouTube, Spotify, DMs. It's always great hearing from you. And we even love the shit hate comments too.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Those are my favorites. Those are always the best. I've gotten a fair amount the last couple, couple episodes. Really? Oh, yeah. What's wrong with you? I don't think you're everyone's favorite.
Starting point is 00:01:54 They just tolerate me. They just feel sorry for me. I think they feel sorry for me, maybe. I don't know. They should feel sorry for you. Yeah. You have to work with me. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Thanks for carrying me. I know. I try. I try. I'm doing well. I, uh, I, I, we're getting after it. I mean, this is our, almost, almost our second episode this week that we're shooting. We got so many good ideas, guests, hot topics going that I think we might have to shoot two a week for a while. Now that doesn't mean that we're going to put out two a week. That might just mean that we build up the archives so I can slack off a little more because, you know, I could, I need a vacation.
Starting point is 00:02:31 So I don't know, maybe we'll see. Uh, what'd you do last night? I actually went to a ramen, a ramen restaurant where they, it's like Japanese ramen, where they put pork belly in there and like a, like an egg and like these bamboo stems and like chicken katsu. Did you, first time I ever had it. Did you eat it with chopsticks? I ate it with chopsticks. Were there any eligible young ladies there that there was a really hot brunette in a black dress. that was on a date. But I feel like we were playing a little bit of eye tag.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Oh, I see. But I see. I was kind of tucked away in a corner, so it didn't really work. But she was good looking. All right. She was good looking. But the food, that was my first time over having ramen, the food was really good. I liked it.
Starting point is 00:03:24 It's definitely a different experience, but it was really good. It was a unique flavor. And it didn't completely wreck me on the toilet either. So that's a good sign. I take it that this is higher quality than the bales of ramen that I bought for $3 when I was going to Kirkwood Community College. Definitely a little bit different. Yeah, I think you'd like it because they like the pork. They utilize the pork belly.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And if you throw a little bit of that chicken, it's basically a chicken cutlet. They fry a chicken breast or whatever and put it on top of there. It was fire. What about you? I too went out on the town last night. Okay. Did you burn it all down? Well, it wasn't quite the same way.
Starting point is 00:04:04 a couple friends of mine and I, we supported the Catholics. We went to the fish fry at the Casey Hall. I had some, I don't know what the fish was. It could have been carp for all I know, but they had shrimp and macaroni and cheese and green beans and corn muffin. Corn muffin was really good. Lots of light and lively conversation.
Starting point is 00:04:28 It was soul food. It was good. Yeah. Good shit. I talked to father. he looked at me like that he needed to talk to me, but he was pretty sure I wasn't a parishioner. So he was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:41 So yeah, look at us. We're really out and about. I know. We don't tend to do that very well. But hey, this weekend we took advantage. It's going to be warm here coming up, which I'm looking forward to. Spring seems like it's here.
Starting point is 00:04:54 I hope. Today, today threw us a doozy. It's not quite spring weather. But yesterday, it gave us some hope. gave us some hope. But all right, we're going to introduce this guy. So today, our guest is a guy you probably feel like you already know. He's a fifth generation farmer from West Central Minnesota who decided to turn on the camera
Starting point is 00:05:14 and show the world what real farming looks like. The breakdowns, the triumphs, the mud, and the madness. With nearly half a million subscribers on YouTube, he's built one of the biggest brands in agriculture, all while navigating the toughest challenges in life can throw at a person. He's a farmer, a crater, and a testament to resilience. So without any further ado, let's get into it. We're live, boys. Chet Larson, welcome to Barn Talk.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I'm excited for this. I'm excited for you to be here. I'm a big fan of the podcast and the YouTube and excited to be here. It's been, what, three years that I've been like, I need to get down there. I need to get down there. I know. You did get us a good replacement. Your mom and dad were fantastic when we had them on.
Starting point is 00:06:00 People loved them. Yeah. In fact, Sawyer felt so guilty. I think that's the only episode that he didn't swear once through the whole thing. Your mom is not one at this point, your mom. Your mom is a saint. I was just sitting there. I'm like, I got to be on my best behavior.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And I was. I was on my best behavior. So Amy, she brought out the best in me. But yeah, man, it's been, you know, we've been talking on the phone.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I don't know every once in a while. And I've been trying to get Chad on for so long. But we finally figured it out and got it made it work. And we're a big fan of you too, dude. You do a lot of great stuff for ag, and we appreciate what you do for ag. What are you doing down here in Iowa? What would you come down for? Came down about two and a half hours north, west of here, went to Chris's place,
Starting point is 00:06:45 and we were doing a little filming, working on his combine, and been staying at his place for a couple of days, and it's like, you know, this is nine-hour drive to where we're sitting today, and it's about five to him. And it's like, you know, I'm never going to get closer than this. And you texted me like a week ago. You think we can any schedule time work? And it's like, well, I knew this was coming. And it's like, well, let's text them last minute.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Like famous chat, 10 minutes before got to do something. Yeah, let's change the plans. But yeah, I'm glad it worked out. We're glad. Well, yeah. I was, I was surprised, but I was happy. because I literally, yeah, a week ago, I was like, dude, what's your availability in 2026? And you were like, dude, I don't get off the farm much.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I'm like, I know, I know, we got to make it happen. We're the same way, though. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's just like, there's always something. Oh, between just full-time job of farming, you know, five days a week in the off season, and then the YouTube schedule and now young family. You know, it's guess what takes it? It's the family.
Starting point is 00:08:02 That's right. 100%. So you want to fit more into your schedule. There goes your weekends. And a lot of that does get consumed for traveling, for the Internet side of my life. Yep. Which has brought me down a lot of awesome roads. As you guys know, I mean, the community of the egg influencers is awesome.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Yeah. Everyone's so cool, so willing to help each other. other, can have great conversations like with Sawyer, and call him. It's an hour and a half. That is. Yeah. It's always nice to chat with you and chat with other people too. And kind of just hear what you guys are seeing or what you're feeling, talking about what's going on on your operation or what's going on in your community. Because, you know, we all kind of farm in different places.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And it's nice to kind of not be alone sometimes on the journey. The thing I found so interesting, like the get to Iowa, basically, I would say, and the traffic and the vehicles. I'm not used. Where I am located is so rural. I mean, you can drive 30 miles and meet two cars. It's like there's cars on the left, the right, merging in. I'm not used to that and I'm not a fan of it either. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it's definitely much more populated, basically, from Chris's place to here. Yeah, Iowa is a little odd because I feel like it's kind of that way. I mean, there's pockets southwest Iowa, northwest Iowa, where there's some space. But for the most part, I mean, it's like there's enough bigger towns everywhere you go, there's traffic. Because even when I go to Illinois, you get to southern Illinois, there's places where there's not, you know, there's not much. But I don't know. I don't know why it is here
Starting point is 00:10:04 that it is that way. But yeah. And you got big roads. Like we don't. I mean, it's an hour and a half, two hours to get to a four lane, you know, depending which direction you go. And I'm like, you know how spoiled you are, Chris, to have like one mile from your house. You jump on the four and cruise at 70. Yeah. And we don't get embargoed. I mean, I don't know if you guys have that up there, but I know people in Illinois and even some places in Missouri,
Starting point is 00:10:34 you know, there's times of the year where they embargo them and you can't move anything. And I'm like, I don't know how you make that work, but make it work. Yeah. Well, okay, I'm going to feed you to the fire right out of the gate. So I was thinking about this this morning. So I don't know what the statistics are, but I mean, there's probably, there's probably a hundred, I would think there's probably a hundred ag social media accounts on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:11:06 But the number of them that have ever gotten over 400,000 subscribers, that's a very, very small cut. And you're one of them. I am. How, as you look back now, how do you think, what do you think is the catalyst that got you there? You know, if you would have met me when I was 18 years old, you would have never guessed that this was where my life path was going to go. And not, I was, I was shy. I don't, you know, don't like being out there. I still would rather be that way. But this career, I would say, has really pushed me outside. and really grown me as a person too, which I really do like. But, you know, I didn't even know there was, Instagram was for girls, you know.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I didn't have Instagram. So I, we messed around on Snapchat, had some buddies that are like, you know, you should get on Instagram with your farm and make a page and you do really interesting stuff. And so I did after like a year and a half. that actually gained a lot of traction that that was 2018-19 era and it was super wet for us and I mean if anyone's watched us farm in west central Minnesota and seeing the mud we deal with I mean most areas of the country I don't think fight like it's a fight is what it is and it's not just us I mean it's everyone in the area it's just tracks on everything and track combines like Chris said down here, there's not track combines. I'm like, what? You go to a dealership. It's just
Starting point is 00:12:52 lines attract equipment. Yeah. So that I think got the following on Instagram. I got like 22,000 followers in like a year. And then Cola Corn Star is the one that reached out and was like, dude, you need to get on YouTube and start doing some long form content. And I think you'd be really good at it. So he actually is the one that invested an unbelievable amount of time into my wife and myself on the editing side because that's where we struggle. You know, anyone can pick up a camera and not know what they're doing and just talk and learn how to do it. And I taught myself how to be a YouTuber from watching YouTube. Like, how do you talk to a camera in front of people? Like the judgment thing.
Starting point is 00:13:41 You feel that. And now I go to a farm show and there's people all around. I'll just whip it out and talk to it because it's like, well, this A is my job. But you get the people looking at you and it's like, yeah, yeah, I am doing what you think I'm doing. Yeah. So that was kind of got pushed into YouTube from him or encouraged. And I think within nine months, we had 100,000. subscribers and I think once I announced on like Instagram that I had a YouTube channel,
Starting point is 00:14:17 all those people just went there and then the algorithm hooked it and away it went. Like it was just like what and now I've got a beast that I don't know how to feed. It's like okay and don't know how to edit. I mean the first videos was on my phone trying to edit on Imovie and limited music and Yeah, so then it's like, well, this is working. Like, okay, now what? And I can't edit, like long term and do this consistently. So then I've made the decision to buy a computer, which I did not have no money to buy.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I was actually going to get a loan to buy a MacBook to start editing and ended up just putting it on my operating loan. Didn't tell the loan officer that. I don't know what it was, like $3,500 or something. And it's like, well, we'll slide this one through. And then the wife started editing. We just kind of said, well, let's see how this goes. And she started teaching herself on YouTube how to run Final Cut Pro. And I filmed.
Starting point is 00:15:35 And it was really, really a seamless process. Because the thing I miss about back in that day was I came home with the camera, sat down the table, grabbed a different one the next day, came home, watched the edited video, posted it the next day. Okay. When I sell my business, I want the best tax and investment advice. I want to help my kids, and I want to give back to the community. Ooh, then it's the vacation of a lifetime. I wonder if my out of office has a forever setting.
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Starting point is 00:16:31 You want first crack at those tickets? You got to be on the list. as simple as that, go to join barntoc.com and sign up today. Now, let's get back to it. It was just seamless. Now, it's a logistics thing now. You know, you got to send the content away and you get the people. Why are you so late? Like, why are you two weeks behind or three weeks behind? Well, because there's many, many people involved now. And it just takes a lot of time. And also the thing that I like, it's, I'm a Nazi about my posting schedule. Like I get quite upset when I don't have a video filmed or, you know, the editors maybe are on vacation or, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:18 So I like having that leeway of having two weeks of videos in the, in the queue ready to go. And so then I don't get stressed because when I get stressed, then the content suffers. because now I'm pushing it. Like, I got to make a video today, and it's not a day that nothing interesting is going to happen. Yeah, boy, that sure is nice having a hopper, you know, two weeks of stuff all ready to go. We suck at that. I'll be honest.
Starting point is 00:17:48 No, we're that other way of what that. What are we going to shoot this week because we got to get this shot? Yeah. Favorite phone call I get is if Sawyer calls me early, it's because he's woke up, hasn't had a snack, realizes that we don't have any content. And then he's like, what are you doing? We're going to shoot some stuff today?
Starting point is 00:18:12 I'm like, oh, man. Oh, man. Here we go. Yeah. Well, you always pull through though. We always got some pigs to move or, you know, something to repair. There's always something.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Yeah, I mean, for you, that's, I've said this. a long time. I mean, hogs are the greatest clutch there is for creating content because you can almost just, if you have enough barns, if you just drive around and walk into each one of them, you'll find one where something is screwed up that you can shoot. I mean, it's like, it's, it's guaranteed. What do you think separated you? Like, do you feel like it was timing for the success of the channel to get started. And I know you leveraged the Instagram, that really took things to another level.
Starting point is 00:19:00 But what do you think makes your content so good that has built the following base? Is it because you guys are so authentic, keep things real? Like, what do you think it is that makes Larson's Farms? Well, yeah, I don't know. The group of people, I would say, is where it starts,
Starting point is 00:19:17 especially in the earlier stages. Just everything was new to the internet, obviously from us and then we were a group I've hired all of like my friends and so like Brody's a cousin but first it started like channel started with Eric and I started it when I first started we had a hired man that ended up quitting that fall and he wasn't a fan of the the internet stuff he didn't want to be around it and and each to their own I mean it is a different life and like people are to treat you differently in a good or a bad way. Yep. And so then we hired Eric, which we had been buddies for a few years. He moved into the area
Starting point is 00:20:07 and was working on his uncle's farm and that he ended up retiring. So we hired him. And I mean, we were the drinking buddies, like the Friday night. Like so bring him in. And I would say the channel has gotten a lot more strict on keeping it more clean, but we were pretty rough at first. And yeah, buddy's working and Doug O's always just Dougal. He is who he is. And so I think that atmosphere of just the friendship, the joking around, and then just we really show everything. I mean, the embarrassing stuff, like humbling. Like there's a lot of times that I'm like, why am I showing this?
Starting point is 00:20:50 Like this, the people, neighbors are going to think we're absolute idiots. But that's what makes it real because it is real. And like going to meet and greets and like meeting fans and stuff. And I'm sure you guys hear it too is, I love how you guys show the real problems, the real issues. And I'm not saying every single video is that way, but you watch enough of them and you'll get that. Yep, for sure. do you when you think about it and i think i think i think soyer would say the same thing do you feel like that window has gotten a lot narrower if someone was trying to start today not saying it's impossible
Starting point is 00:21:38 but i think it's i think the market is very saturated i mean and it's not a bad thing and i would never discourage anyone from trying yeah um but you're it's not as easy i mean you could post anything in 2020 and it got views and gain traction. I mean, it was just, it was simple. Yep. Now you're going to have to have a niche, I think. And like I said, I don't want to discourage anyone, but it ain't as easy. I mean, I see it on our channel. I see it on every egg and me and Sawyer have talked about this on the phone. It's just like it sucks because you're doing the same thing, but not reaping the growth that it's,
Starting point is 00:22:21 was so simple at the beginning. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like YouTube's just kind of, I feel like all these platforms have kind of stagnated a little bit. Growth is just not as easy to come by like it used to be. Like even TikTok.
Starting point is 00:22:33 I mean, TikTok, you could post on there back in its heyday. I mean, shit, you'd get, we would post our clips on there. We'd get millions of views. Now, lucky if you get 20,000,
Starting point is 00:22:43 30,000 views, you know? And it's just, yeah, I would say the same thing. You don't want to discourage anybody, but you definitely got to have a different angle. I feel like. I think everyone think, like, I'll have the neighbor, someone local that'll come up.
Starting point is 00:22:59 You still making those videos? It's like, dude, this is a business. Yeah. This is, it's a business because it is work. There is so many people involved. You're paying people to help you and keep this going. Like, it is, it's not hosting videos. You're running a media business.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Yeah. I mean, you're running a farming business, but you're running a media business. media business at the same time. Yeah. 100%. Well, I mean, it's your, it's, it's no different than the guys that have a tracking company outside the farm. They have, uh, whatever it is, their side hustle.
Starting point is 00:23:36 I mean, it's another job. It's another job you're doing to allow us to farm. Yeah. And I never, like I said, never intended on this. I didn't come into this thinking, uh, I was going to make a business. I was like, oh, I've had fun. interacting with the people on the internet and creating content. And then it's like, oh, my gosh, this is something.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Yeah, yeah. So it's definitely been a major blessing to my life and our family's life. And yeah. So tell us, I mean, we had your dad and mom on before. And, you know, they told us a little bit about the history and where you guys are today with the farm. But for people that don't know you guys, haven't watched your channel, what is what does the operation look like today uh so just in like just like farm and like road crop traditionally it's yep so uh years ago was hog farm um and then dad and randy uh in the
Starting point is 00:24:41 late 80s got out of high school and wanted the row crop farm and they were doing raising hogs also but they needed room to expand so they started renting ground and kind of more so focused on the grain farming so now modern day is my dad and uncle grandpa's retired myself and then we custom farm for Eric or the big swede and have Brody is Randy so my uncle's son-in-law so got corn soybeans we got been dabbling in some edible beans, which is a whole new experience. That's one of those deals. You raise what you can afford to lose. It's big wins and big losses.
Starting point is 00:25:34 So last year was a big loss. I don't think we're going to be raising them this year because the price is kind of really tanked on that. And then last year was just too wet, too wet. crop insurance is not the greatest because we have, it's just like any crop insurance. Yep. You haven't raised them long enough. You got just horrible. You get the T yield, the county.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Yeah. And it ain't good. Yep. It is not good. And we found that out last year. That's like a, ooh, that hurt. Yeah. Was it like black beans or?
Starting point is 00:26:08 Yeah. Black turtle beans. Nice. There's our area, a lot of, lot of specialty crops to the east. There's irrigation. really, really good ground. And that kind of influenced our area west of there to start doing it. But our ground is starting to push it where you maybe shouldn't be doing it
Starting point is 00:26:30 because it holds water too well. So that's what we got into the corn and soybeans, black beans, and no more hogs, no more. No more hogs. You're smart enough to do that at least. That was kind of my grandparents thing because I can't remember 90s. I remember late 90s is when dad and Randy said we're done with this. That was a good time to make that decision.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Yeah. And grandpa and grandma kept on going with that until they were maybe like 65. And then they said, well, they paid for the barns. Yep. And they quit. And they said, you guys can talk into my dad and uncle. you guys can raise them for free in there. Go for it.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Barns are paid for free while they were to the point where they needed a lot of work. So you were going to start reinvesting, you know. Time you pay for a hog barn, it's time to rebuild the hog barn. And you guys know. And at that point, the row cropping side was starting. Both were failing or not failing, suffering. Yep. Hogs weren't getting the attention they needed.
Starting point is 00:27:41 The buildings weren't getting the attention they needed. And then the row crops weren't getting, they weren't getting like neglected. But like, oh, we got to load pigs this morning. And neighbors out combining. Yeah. We should be combining. And so that was kind of an easy decision for them, I think, to just focus on to the grain farming. And kind of that, that era is when the grain farming started to, you know, make more money, too.
Starting point is 00:28:07 So. And what was, what was like growing up? because when we talked to Dougo, you know, that was a really tough time for him. What was it like from your perspective going through the 90s as a kid? Were you aware of the struggles? Were you just, were you not? Like, what was it like witnessing your parents go through that and figuring out? I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say that there was ever, no, I didn't ever know that there was
Starting point is 00:28:35 hard times or good times. And, I mean, honestly, didn't care. Yeah. But I had everything I needed, a little snowboard and bikes and BB guns. Yep. A couple of hammers and nails, go build stuff in the ports. But, yeah, no, that I didn't ever know any struggles. So you never had, were you always growing up, were in the back of your mind,
Starting point is 00:29:06 were you always like, okay, this is what I'm going to do? Or did you think about it? I was always from the day I could walk on dad's heels following him, getting kicked. He kicks like a mule when you stand on the back of his feet. But no, basically I was like school was the dumbest thing in the world to me because I knew what I wanted to do and I want to be there. I can learn more there. Why am I sitting here learning about something that I'll never use? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Now, maybe should have cared more about that in certain things. I'm in the same boat as you. I never, it was, school never spoke to me. It was always farming or business or talking about money or I just never, never really resonated with school. The things I neglected was like the computer side of stuff. I should have spent, given attention to that. but, you know, I grew up in the 90s. Didn't have a computer when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:30:10 And when we did, it was the old, what is the dial-up or what did the phone line was buzzing or whatever. Yep. Like, and it didn't work. I mean, it was so slow, like, it was pointless to even have. So that when I had to take typing classes and computer classes, I thought that was the most pointless thing in the world. Well, now look at it. Now you're using it every day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Yeah. What are some of the biggest misconceptions you think people have? have about your guys' farm? You know, like, what are some of those comments? They watch your videos and they just assume X or whatever. I think the thing that they see, and I listen to the podcast with mom and dad, they see what we have now and they see the YouTube videos and think, well, that's why they have that.
Starting point is 00:30:55 And that ain't the case at all. And also, like, that farm, our farm, when Dad and Randy started grow cropping, started out of high school was a 400-acre farm and hogs that like they were more into hogs than grow cropping and and they didn't have nothing so they leveraged themselves to the brim and just kept on dad says back then i didn't care i didn't have nothing if i lost it it didn't matter now i care. No, I care about the debt and losing it. No, it's been, they've just always, they've never said no. That's the biggest thing. And whether that's right or wrong, it's probably horrible business advice as far as just keep on racking on debt and growing. But now they're 57 years old. And they did well.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Yep. They've done well. And I've had a great opportunity to grow up in, get involved in it and get into it. And it's a lot different than even when I grew up. I mean, I grew up in 8820s and had always had three combines and 77, 20s, 80, 80, 20s. Then they got 9610, thought, wow, that's a machine there. Yeah. And then they got into the 9750.
Starting point is 00:32:28 And that was that, that changed the farm. That, that machine when they came out with that. That's what my uncle always says that that was what changed the farm. Yeah. And I always had the older bean combines and one corn combine and just ran a lot of older stuff. Yep. And they had good mechanic wrenched on it. That's how they built the farm.
Starting point is 00:32:53 They ran the go to the dealership and look in the back. The paint's coming off. It's bent up. That's what they bought. Fixed it up to work. And well, now in the last 10 years, they've got, we've been able to get into more later model stuff, newer stuff, which good, bad or otherwise. Some days it's like this, this is way worse. Give us the 9870 back.
Starting point is 00:33:21 This ain't working. Yeah. So when you think about that, you know, from where they started and where you guys are now, do you feel like as you look forward, do you feel like you have as much opportunity? Well, like, where's the farm got to go from where it is now for your family? And do you feel like that opportunity is there? Welcome aboard via rail. Please sit and enjoy. Please sit and sip. Play. Post.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Taste. View. And enjoy. Via Rail, love the way. Yeah. I don't know. It's, yeah, I would say there's, we have a target on our back because of YouTube farmer.
Starting point is 00:34:22 So I don't know how that's going to affect me in the future. Like, that's just something that I have to live with. And I don't know. Some people love it. I think it's the greatest thing in the world. Next guy down the road is got the jealousy problem that I'll never farmers land because they think they're great or whatever they think in their mind that they're mad about something. But yeah, I'm basically the only kid that wants to farm out of the family.
Starting point is 00:34:55 I have a brother. He has no interest. I have three cousins. They'll help in the seasonal time frame, but I don't think they're going to ever have any interest to actually be a part of it. Anyways, they haven't so far more than run tillage in the fall or spring or whatever. So I would say, yeah, I'll be able to continue forward. Now, how much do you want?
Starting point is 00:35:24 You know, it's already a management pig. It's what it is. Yeah. How much bigger do you want to go? Like I hear of 20,000, 30,000, 50, 80, pick a number, 1,000 acre farm. And it's like, why? Why do you want that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:43 It sounds horrible to me. It does. Yeah. Sorry. You know, anyone that wants to be the 10,000 acre farm, you're not the guy running stuff. anymore. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:56 How hard is that as you guys have grown? And I think we asked your dad this. But that to me is one of the biggest challenges that I see to farmers is you get to a point where your time gets spent on all the things that really nobody likes doing, which is managing people and managing the numbers and all that. and then you don't really get much of that time to do what you love doing growing up, which is running the equipment. And how do you, I don't know, how do you balance that?
Starting point is 00:36:39 Or I mean, at what point is it not worth the growth? Yeah, not worth the growth. Yeah, I don't know. The scale, what would you say the scale is? To me, 1,000 acres a person. Yep. If you want to farm full-time, not have a town job, bare minimum, 1,000 acres a person. Yep.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Maybe it's 1,500 even, you know. So as you're picking up ground. And it's also, from a management standpoint, it's basically every 1,500 acres, bigger you grow is another man you need to hire. It's pretty much every thousand acres is another man that you need to have. And that's seasonally. So that gets very difficult. As you guys know, like you need the army. Every farm needs that.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Whether you're one guy, that farm is 1,500 acres needs to double. Needs to have two guys or three in the fall to help. And the scale just keeps amplifying. And that's the next thing that is like, why would you want to be a 20, 30,000-acre farm and have 70 people. Yeah. Or whatever. You know,
Starting point is 00:37:58 that'd be horrible. Like, we have to have nine to ten. And that's hard enough. And half of them are full-time guys. So that are there all the time and you can count on them there. So, yeah,
Starting point is 00:38:11 I don't know. It's what, it's what do you want, I guess. And we farm all together. So, you know, that's just the farm's going to be bigger,
Starting point is 00:38:23 you know? If you had a brother, if you're farming with your brother and you both have boys and they want to grow, well, now you've got to be a 4,000, 5,000 acre farm or more just to support the family livings of that. So do you think farms are going to get bigger? Yes, I do think they're going to get bigger. And they're getting to be less people that are our age that want to get into it. or a lot of people want to get into it, but yet there's getting to be fewer your guys' age group that had kids
Starting point is 00:38:58 and stayed in the area. And I really think that the 80s is within that. Yep. Or I know for a fact it is because dad's barely making it, which would be my grandpa, just using it for reference, they're barely making it while kids graduate. Well, there's absolutely zero way of expanding and paying for to have your your kids stay there.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Well, they move away to the cities and get good jobs and start a life and never come back. Yep. Well, that just took that next generation off the farm completely. Yep. And so I think that's where there's getting to be less and less. Like, there's a handful of guys my age in our area that are farming. We had that conversation just in this county. I mean, there's not a lot of young guys.
Starting point is 00:39:46 And there's going to be a lot of ground up for sale because, you know, talks about the average age of the farmer. But yeah, it's the, the, what you weigh the other side of the coin where you're at, it's like, how much further do you want to grow? But at the same time, ag is pushing us that way. It's like you have to get bigger or create your own market. We say it on here all the time. It's get bigger, die, create your own market.
Starting point is 00:40:11 But it's like a lot of us do it for the love of farming, not the love of being a business owner or running the farm, you know, and it's like, but you seem to be getting pushed that way. And I don't know what you do about it. I mean, when you, when you think about the next 20 years, I mean, do you want to grow what you're currently doing now more? Or do you want to try to find a specialty crop or try to do something a little different? Like, where's your head on that? Well, our farm is set up to do what we're doing. And it would be very hard for us to side step into changing something. But so I don't know. Maintain. Maintain. I mean, like dad said, every time we build another grain bend says you're farming this many acres. Like you go less, you're wasting money and you're
Starting point is 00:41:09 Ben is sitting empty and you, so with that being said, over the rest of my life, I'm going to farm this many acres. Well, what happens down the road and the neighbor comes and has 300 more acres to farm? Am I going to say no? Probably not. So, yeah, I would imagine it'll just keep growing. And every farm is going to keep growing. You know, they're going to retire someday and it's that's just what it is.
Starting point is 00:41:38 There ain't more people. Everyone's just getting less and thinner and thinner and farms are getting bigger. And that's what I see happening. I think every farm is going to get bigger. Yeah. This is bring us back if I veer too off, but I'm just curious now that made me think about it.
Starting point is 00:41:57 What's your basis like up there? Horrible. Yeah, like where does the corn, where does your corn go? Most of ours is ethanol. Okay. Where's the, closest ethanol outlet. It's pretty much 30 miles any direction.
Starting point is 00:42:12 We got one west, east, north. We're pretty much, and that's a lot of the reason why we have the Ben site that we have is the logistics to truck this stuff out during harvest. It's just the Ben sites there to just keep harvest moving. So, yeah, it's about 24 to 30 miles any direction. Yeah. And that's not horrible.
Starting point is 00:42:38 I mean, there's people that are in a lot worse. So right now, like currently to do the market update in Minnesota, I think anywhere from 40 to 60 under basis on corn is kind of, like if we've been getting a 40 under basis, that's when we've been locking our futures or selling. Soybeans, I could look it up, but it's been pretty ugly, like a buck under. Really?
Starting point is 00:43:07 Yeah. Okay. I think we maybe got some to a bean crushing plant. They were maybe 60 under. I think we just sold some around that mark, 60, 65 under. We have a guy that listens that every once a while messages me that's in Western New York. And there's no, there's an ethanol plant in Western New York. And there's no acres around there.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Their basis is like, what is it? It's like a positive. it's like positive 40 cents. Their corn bids like 40 cents over at any given time. Wow. Yeah. It's nice. It'll make you weep a little bit.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Well, and so I hear like talk to Chris all the time. I hear him say, oh, even basis or positive basis. But it's like that all the time. So it's built into the market. Yeah. So, you know, the input cost. are just more here. People get more, like, you could give the,
Starting point is 00:44:11 give farmers all the money in the world that you want, and you'll just take the next guy out. There'll still be people going broke. Yeah, because it's just... Because all the suppliers, all the rent, everything will adjust accordingly. You get the neighbor stuff going on and get in the land bidding cash rent
Starting point is 00:44:27 or pick a number, and well, that guy ain't going to get it, and then I can make $10 an acre farming this, so I'm going to pay stupid rent. You know, it's, I don't care. how much money in farming it was. We'd keep we'd still yeah we're our own price ourselves out of the market. We're our own worst enemies. Yeah. Yeah. You guys market your own grain then. Yeah. Yeah. I've got a company that I work with that um dad and Randy dad'll admit it that there've never been great
Starting point is 00:45:00 grain marketers and yeah. I just was like, you know, I'm going to go out this venture. on my own and never went to college or anything. And it's like, well, I'll use this, what it costs me to hire these people. It's like college and learn how to market, you know, play the paper game, like puts calls, stuff like that, which I had had no idea what that was all about. Now I'm enough to get myself in trouble, no enough about it to get myself into trouble. but it's a really ease that eases my mind having them like when you're planting and harvesting you know are you thinking about selling grain right you're thinking about I haven't slept at
Starting point is 00:45:45 all this week and we got this much to do and just got to get to this end of this week and get this field done you're not thinking about marketing and a lot of times that's maybe when you should be yep in like the springtime and um So that I do feel like that is worth it. But there's also companies out there that I have been worked with that you got to find the right fit for you. Yeah. We had that conversation with David, our last guess. Yeah, do what you're good at.
Starting point is 00:46:20 And it's like it's all right to lean on people that are better at something than what you are. I mean, that's running a business at the end of the day, you know. And it's like anything, you hire a tax account and do your tax. You hire a lawyer to help whatever transaction needs to happen. Why don't you consider hiring someone to help make you money? Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's what it is. Yeah, it's costing you money, but their job is to make you money
Starting point is 00:46:50 or at least keep your risk at the close to break even as possible in these times. you know, like the fly in here. Those flies are dull, man. The flies never. We feel like we get them all killed and then there's always a straggler too. Yeah. And they hold on for too long. Then we turn the heat on and then they get fired up and they come out of whatever hole they're in.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Yeah. So you're farm in Minnesota. What do you feel about the political climate in Minnesota? Do you feel like the regulation or just the craziness is going to ever? I wish the wagon wheel would have broke another 20 miles west. and I'd be in South Dakota. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Yeah, there you go. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. No, it's, it is. It's absolutely pathetic, in my opinion. It's unexcusable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Like Randy said, a tax season just kind of ended for us. And he said, it's really hard to rate that Minnesota State tax this year. Yep. Yeah. I bet. That's right.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Yeah. What about regulation? Like, do you guys have much, you know, for us here in Iowa, everybody's talking about the whole cancer thing, right? And water quality. And I guess Iowa's like the second, isn't it the second most cancer cases happened in this state, I believe? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:48:14 And everybody's talking about water quality. And so, you know, we're thinking DNR, Og Barnes, you know, they're going to come out. Is there anything like that for you guys on? I wouldn't say anything too direct. I mean, there's been the buffer strips along cricks and stuff, which. I don't know. I wish I'm not against it. I'm not against the idea of it. I just wish they'd use their heads when they like actually where I'm building my house, the lake shore. Got to have 30 foot buffer strip along the lake. And that's fine. It's great. But all the water runs into the field to the ditch that then runs through the ditch into the lake. No buffer strip there.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Yeah. And we brought that up. It's like, why are we putting a buffer? or strip along the lake when the water goes doesn't go that way anyway. Like it's just it's another government thing that's it's like they make the make the rules and don't understand how the country or farming actually works. Well they they make a they make laws that are a broad brush and they try to apply it you know and it doesn't fit everywhere and they're not very good at pivoting and not very get at adjusting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Speaking of that, you know, like I think about California Prop 12 for the hogside, you know how California was like, oh, yeah, all pigs should be raised like this. And did they actually come out and see any of the, any of the sal units? Probably not. They just kind of made that decision. Farm bill, you know, everybody's talking about the farm bill. If you could wave a magic wand and change something about ag today and maybe see it in the farm bill, what would you, what would you like to see done?
Starting point is 00:49:57 I don't really know. I don't stay too up on that, truthfully. Yeah. You should just turn that right back around on him when he asked you a question like that. Yeah, what would you change? Well, they're going to change the Prop 12 thing. So that's been, everybody's been talking about how, you know, no state should dictate how we raise pigs based because of what they want, you know.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Like, I don't think that. So they're doing something about that, which is great, I think. If it gets done. If it gets done. People have been talking about breaking up the meat packers because they think they're too powerful. I don't know if that'll end up happening. I think they got a lot of money to lobby against that.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I don't know. What about on the money side? They were talking about interest. They raised the limits for USDA guaranteed loans. I think they raised it to $3 million. and then they also raised the limit on guaranteed operating loans, which I didn't know that you could even get a USDA guaranteed operating loan, although that sounds like to me that has got to be an absolute freaking nightmare.
Starting point is 00:51:12 So I don't know how many people utilize that. I can't really remember what else. I mean, to me, I don't know. To me, there is, and I really don't know how you change it. think that one of the biggest problems that we have in agriculture is this incestuous relationship between banking inputs and politics. And you saw that in, you know, the Trump money that everybody's, which I got to sign up for yet. I haven't done that. I hate to miss out on that. but you know it's to your point
Starting point is 00:51:55 when we were talking about a basis it doesn't really matter because all that money that we're going to get look at what thanks to what we're doing in the the Middle East look what the price of nitrogen is done
Starting point is 00:52:11 if you diesel fuel is going to go way up too so all your inputs just gone up so all that money is just going to get vacuumed up and input costs. And, you know, the only one that really, I shouldn't say this,
Starting point is 00:52:29 but I think it's pretty much, I think it's the case. The number of farmers that ever really lobby Congress for any sort of bailout is very, very tiny. However, the farm credit system, Robo Bank, all of your implement dealers, all of your ag chemical people, they are all. lobbying for that because they want that because it guarantees that you're going to be able to pay your bill and it's going to guarantee that they can raise their price three and a half percent a year whatever and that's the cycle we're in guy that i used to work for said that you know there were a lot of people within that organization that at every stage of where we were as far as the number of
Starting point is 00:53:18 sows that we had and the number of finishers we had and the number of pigs we sold, they were always like, let's just, let's just stop right here. And he always said, if you're not growing a little bit, you're going backwards because every year somebody's coming with their handout and the cost of doing business goes up every year. And that was kind of his mentality about growth. Well, we live in a world where our commodity, grows sometimes, but then it retracts a hell of a lot. And but all of our input costs go up every year.
Starting point is 00:53:56 And so we're just constantly getting squeezed. And the result is, you know, part of that is growth because we need to grow because there's fewer people doing what we're doing. But then the other part is, if you're not growing a little bit, you're going backwards. So I don't know. I mean, I don't know what Farm Bill really does to address any of that. It's just the monster that we've built. Is it sustainable, though?
Starting point is 00:54:22 Do you think that's sustainable? Like, you think in like 50 years, is it, I mean, is it still going to be that way? Well, my biggest fear, my biggest fear is that we move to a system where you have, the people that are providing the inputs are rent in the ground, paying the leases on the equipment, basically guaranteeing you a sales price for the crop you raise, and you are really, you're just an employee of whoever.
Starting point is 00:54:56 You know how many people would do that? Oh, heartbeat, because I've said it, if you can run, the number of guys out there that if they can run, they can run new equipment and they get their seed corn trip in the winter and they get their summer trip. And if they can snuff enough money out of that to get a boat on whatever lake they want, they'll sign up for that all day long.
Starting point is 00:55:21 And sleep at night, no stress or no financial stress. Yeah. I guarantee you it would, that wouldn't be good. I think that's where you're, yeah, do you think that'll happen? I think that's where you're heading. Because I think you're headed to a point where it's on your guys's shoulders and there's fewer and fewer and fewer of you and the number of people that want to farm that many acres
Starting point is 00:55:43 without a safety net, there isn't enough of them. And so I think to incentivize it, I think that's what you'll see happen. Well, they did it to you guys or the hog industry. Yeah. Poultry was the first. Hogs went that way.
Starting point is 00:56:03 I mean, there's plenty of people to argue with you that they're trying to, that's why we're trying to, that's why we're trying to break all the cattle guys. I don't know whether that's... I don't think... That's one thing I don't believe is... I don't think that it's a matter of there is this huge conspiracy. I think it's just the system that we've built
Starting point is 00:56:20 just moves in that direction. People move to maximize profit in whatever industry they are in. And the result is that whoever's at the bottom of the rung, they get squeezed because at the end of the day, the commodity price does not automatically increase with those inputs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Well, because those businesses, they're trying to increase their profit, right? But yeah, I agree with you. I don't think it's, like you always talk about how the 90s and the hogs went. It wasn't like there was this evil guy that was plotting, I want to control and have all these pigs and have all these sows, and I want to take up and eat up everybody.
Starting point is 00:57:09 It just kind of moved that way because of capitalism. Our society really loves to find a villain. We love to build heroes and then tear them down, and we also love a villain. And like that whole, that was all about the Wendell Murphy. Oh, Wendell Murphy ruined the hog businesses. No, if Wendell would not have done any of what he did, somebody else would have,
Starting point is 00:57:35 and it would just be somebody else. that is the villain. And, you know, Smithfield is the villain because they got bought by the Chinese. We get that comment all the time, pretty much every video
Starting point is 00:57:48 that we put out where we're talking about pigs or we're doing something. There'll be one snarky comment in there that we're owned by Smithfield, even though we probably don't sell any pigs to Smithfield, but it wouldn't matter who they were sold,
Starting point is 00:58:01 you know, who they were sold to. And ag's the same way. I would say my biggest concern is the equipment cost. Yeah. That seriously concerns me. Like it's, it is ridiculous when 100,000 don't touch anything. I mean, tillage tools are a quarter of a million dollars. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:26 And every piece of equipment now is a million dollars. I mean, a new tractor, 800,000 to 1.4.000. $6.2 million. I mean, yeah, there's people that will buy that. And eventually, yes, it will be used. But even when you're coming into the used market and there's still $600,000, it's just ridiculous. And then you've got to have, depending the size of the farm,
Starting point is 00:58:51 and it's all relevant to what you farm of what you need. But you got to have two, three, four, five, eight, ten of these things. Like, terrible. Like there's a reason that we have a lot of four tracks. and I could trade them all in and still to boot probably a half a million dollars for one. Yeah. Yeah. What did you think of the new John Deere tractor?
Starting point is 00:59:16 The new, the 540. 540. It's a need in that four track frame. We ran the 410 in that 8RX frame. And all dad said it needs a hundred more horse. Yeah. We run a speed planner, 24 row 30 speed planner. And with that thing loaded down full, eight miles an hour,
Starting point is 00:59:40 while you buy the planner to go 10, now the tractor can't pull the planter. Wheels could do it. Our two tracks can do it, but them four tracks just take so much power. Too much power. You lose too much power. Lose a lot of power.
Starting point is 00:59:54 And that's whether it's a big frame or, you know, an articulating tractor or the front wheel assist version. They just take more power. So, yeah, it's, there will be a lot of people that buy them. Yeah. No, it's another 800, 900. I don't know what it costs, but I know what the four tens cost. And this one's going to be a, you probably put an easy hundred grand or more on top of what the four tens were.
Starting point is 01:00:25 So, yeah, it's. I was watching the, I was watching the clip, Millennial was having the, guy go through it. And it's so funny about, you know, perspective of where you're coming from because the thing that stuck out to me in that was the guy that was going over the tractor from deer, it was like a badge of honor for him that 40% of that tractor is brand new. He's like, 40% of the parts of this tractor are brand new. You know, the frame's all new and this is all new. And he's like excited about it. And I'm looking at it and I'm thinking, so there's, There's 40% of the parts on there that they, like they don't know yet.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Oh, yeah, we didn't make that heavy enough. Yep, that's going to have to be changed. Be the X-9. Boy, we didn't think that one through. When people start saying, you know, all new parts, I go, oh, that's, nobody wants to be the Giddy Pig, but he was excited about it. It'll be the X-9 combine all over again. Exactly right.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Exactly right. Yeah. The one thing that I think hurts that innovation. Well, you can't say it hurts because that, as you said, that's a need. But I go back to the combine analogy. There was a real sweet spot in agriculture to me, I don't know, 15 years ago, when you had the guy that bought, he bought the 90s, let's just say, he bought the 9670.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Okay, he bought the 9670, and he traded in his 9570, or he traded in a 9550, whatever. There was always a buyer for that combine. You know, at every level, there was somebody that was interested in that. And there was that time in there where interest was cheap, and guys were trading combines every two years,
Starting point is 01:02:29 just like clockwork. And you could trade, for a pretty good deal because that dealer already knew that he had somebody that was interested at Comline. The issue that we have today is you have this layer at the top, and then you haven't got anybody, you haven't got anybody, you might have somebody that's interested that first step that you trade. and then after that, the jump in Acres dropped so far that there's nobody interested in that. So the resale, these guys that are buying the newest, the hit that you're taken when you're trading is just an absolute killer. And I don't know what, I don't know how you fix that.
Starting point is 01:03:20 All my auctioneer guys are like, you know, auctions tell the true value of anything. And I agree with that, but you really hate to be the guy that takes that bath when you go to trade. Oh, I know. And that's, I think the guys that jumped on the X-9 bandwagon right away, they felt it. Yeah. Still do feel it. I don't know. But then I was talking to my salesman here last or earlier this week.
Starting point is 01:03:47 And he's like, well, honestly, a lot more guys are now that the used X-9s are hitting the market. a lot more guys are looking at, well, now they're the same price as a 790. Use 790. Well, we can buy the, yeah, we can buy a way bigger machine for the same amount of money. So, you know, I think look at all farmers are somewhat lazy too. I mean, if they can sleep more, you know, get planting done a week earlier and can afford to buy the next bigger model. I mean, everyone's so ridiculously over equipped. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:21 nowadays, which is good for our lives and sleep and all that. But there's, you get a guy that's farming 1,500 acres and has a 24 row planter. Do you really need that? Yep. Yep. Yeah, the days of planting, you know, my analogy is, you know, when I was a kid, it took a solid month to plant corn. And now then what we do, I think we planted, I mean, I literally think that if we really go
Starting point is 01:05:00 and nothing breaks, when David shows up, we can plant everything in two and a half days. We're done. I mean, that's just how it is. And, I mean, it's crazy. It's great. And it's great actually for maximizing your yield because that window, you can hit it. But I think a lot of these bigger pieces of equipment that are devalying quickly, people that don't need it are buying this stuff. Yep.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Like, the guy can maybe get away with the S770, but well, there's S780 sitting there for 20 grand more. Okay, I'll buy another bigger combine. Do I need it? No, but I can afford it. Yeah. What about working on equipment? Do you see that as a concern as time goes on? of having a call the guy to come out to fix x, y, Z thing.
Starting point is 01:05:54 It is that whole thing lawsuit with deer and that can't work on your own thing. I don't know. I never really, I don't think that it should be, that you shouldn't be able to work on it if you're a smart individual. But to me, it never really bothered me because I'm not smart enough to know how to run the computer and the 18 wires and I ain't gonna plug in and I've got enough things going on. than to go to school to learn how to diagnose the wiring on the stuff is just so advanced that if you don't do it every day and have the computer and the knowledge and the people behind you to be able to call
Starting point is 01:06:34 I don't know how to do this and call Mother Deere I wouldn't know why you'd even want to I mean the basic mechanical pieces yes you can work on that and you never could or they never took that right away I think that whole thing was more or less over the software side of stuff. But back to who, there's going to be a very few percentage of farmers that are going to want to be able to do that or know how to do that or have the drive to do that. Yeah. Because give you about two hours into a project and it's plant and season or harvest season and you'll be calling the dealer anyway. Yep. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Well, and I mean, as fast as software technology has changed, I mean, heck, I know guys that have bought brand new machines and had an issue that the tech from the dealership has to call somebody because they can't even figure out what it is. So the right to do it yourself becomes somewhat, I mean, I know there are people. there are people that they just they suck that up and they love being able to do stuff like that and I think that's fine if they want to do it they can but to your point yeah it is it it all comes down to what's the best use of your time and we're all at the times that you need it you probably are just going to call somebody anyway so yeah uh do you get a bunch of people bagging on you for no-till because you guys have to tell because, you know, back to the broad brush of ag.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Yeah, people don't get. People don't get. It's like it's the same thing with us. People say, oh, you guys need to raise your pigs outside. It's like, well, are you telling me that because you live in Georgia where you got. I don't even care. Like, I just, if they say that, I just say, give me your address. I'll ship you some.
Starting point is 01:08:39 How many you want. I'll bring you how many you want. And then you just let me know when you want. to come pick them up. Yeah. That's the thing that pisses me off about Ag more than anything.
Starting point is 01:08:48 It's like everybody paints it with a broad brush whether you're talking about grain farming whether you're talking about livestock farming. People just think
Starting point is 01:08:57 that you should all just do things the same way and they've never even stepped foot on a farm and that's annoying. And I know for you the no-till guys I'm sure get pretty freaking annoying.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Yeah. My comment to that is if you're in an area and 95% of people are doing it this way and you're the five or the 1% that's trying to do it differently, odds are you're not on the right path. And unless you're a genius and you've got something new niche or specialty thing you're doing, but don't come from Iowa, Southern Iowa and come into the gumbo mud that it don't warm up. And it's wet, it's tight.
Starting point is 01:09:43 It just don't dry and tell me I don't need black dirt for the sun in the spring to give me a half inch of, that's my uncle's favorite line. Give me a half inch of dry dirt to stir with the mud and we'll go planting. It's just it's the nature of the beast. Yeah. So and it just it's a more so a spring thing and just so it dries and have some loose dirt to work with in the spring. And so I'm not against no-tilling. You got to do what's best for your farm and your area and your soil. And that's up to each farmer to now if you're in an area where everyone's 95% no-tilling,
Starting point is 01:10:26 you're out there with the deep ripper and the plow. Maybe you have a good reason why you're doing it, but probably not the best idea. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, I just wish people would understand that more. What's the, what's the, what's the most common shitty comment you get? Like, what's the biggest hate comment you get the most often? You get a bunch? Most often or the one that irritates me the most?
Starting point is 01:10:50 Both, both. Yeah. A rich YouTube farmer. That one, that one, that one irritates me. It really irritates me because, A, the farm has been going for, well, since 1918. YouTube just started in 2019. Second thing is, the YouTube thing is kind of my game. Really nothing to do with the farm.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Yes, we get demos and stuff like that. You'd be an idiot to not say that, yeah, that does help or it's a benefit. But that one just really chaps me. So I would say that that's a good. one otherwise I can't really think it's kind of leveled off the real big hater ones but that's one like anytime like we trade a piece of equipment or we get something different or even even a demo from a company shows up and oh must be nice to be a YouTuber rich YouTuber it's those ones bother me because it's like you
Starting point is 01:12:01 don't even know what you're talking about say it is yeah it is it's great you should you should you should start it up it's easy Mike, the one I hate is people that are like that say some version of man, it must be nice. I mean, I should just pick up a camera. Oh, that's a good one. Because I'm like, yep, heck yes, you should. I mean, look, anybody can do it. I'm doing it. Yeah. Go for it. Yeah. Yeah. Changing gears a little bit to kind of go back to YouTube
Starting point is 01:12:33 and just publicizing your life. It's one of those. weird things that like you said you didn't really you don't really know what you're signing up for you know when you put yourself out in the public eye you know that this has the opportunity but there's trade-offs that come with it and you know just personal for me you know I was in a relationship for a long time had her on the YouTube channel we're no longer together and that's one of those things that like it's really tough that you do that because it's your life but they you have to deal with the aftermath of that.
Starting point is 01:13:11 For you, you went through something pretty hard, like really hard, and you were on the public eye. And I know, Nicole was a big part of your life, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:22 at Barn Talk, we keep it real. And I just wanted to ask you, how did you manage getting through that tough time? Because it's already, that's such a hard situation in itself. But then it's all out there. It's all out there.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Yeah. You got to deal with it. The public eye is more than just your small town at that point, you know, and everyone's got an opinion. And I think, so for those that don't know, my first wife got married when I was 19. And I think we were married six and a half years, roughly. And she got a very rare case of leukemia ended up passing away seven months after diagnosed. and being diagnosed. And, well, obviously she's the editor.
Starting point is 01:14:13 She was in videos all the time and a big part of the internet. And so everyone, we updated them and through all the treatments and all that. And she was a trooper. And it ended up dwindling down. and she started to dwindle down and ended up passing away. And then it's like, it was interesting. I think that a lot of people were very involved in that. And I think a lot of people supported the channel then.
Starting point is 01:14:50 And then after she was gone, a lot of people, I think I insulted by never talking about her again. Oh, yeah. And I didn't do that out of like lack of respect or anything like that. It's just had to do that, you know, for me. Yeah. Like this is we're moving forward from here. Boom.
Starting point is 01:15:13 Yep. I hate the pity party online. Like I'm sorry for those that I'm friends with that have done that. But I don't like to watch that. Yeah. Personally for me, that's for behind closed doors. the what you go through. So that's, that was kind of the snap and just ended it there.
Starting point is 01:15:40 And I think I've seen a lot of comments where, wow, he doesn't even care about her. And then, then, you know, you meet someone new, which I'm remarried. And we have almost one year old daughter and life's good. But then that makes people upset because it's too soon. or this and that. And I'm not saying that, what's the timeline, you know? So, but everyone has an opinion. Yeah. And now you've got a half a million of them with it. Yeah. Yeah. Sending you mail handwritten letters. Those are the ones that really, it's like, wow, man, you must really hate me. When a country's productivity cycle is broken, people feel it in their paychecks,
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Starting point is 01:16:58 It's tough, you know, just when you put your life out there in that regard and something changes and they're all looking at you and how you handle it. And everyone wants to know. And I don't know, you know, I'm a human being too. I'm a normal dude. Yeah. And now I'm supposed to at 25 or six years old, supposed to know what this is like. And is anyone at age 70, 80, are you supposed to know what it's going to be like when
Starting point is 01:17:27 your significant other passes away. And how do you move forward with that? I don't want to be the pity party person. Yeah. Everybody grieves. And she wouldn't have wanted that either. Yeah. Everybody grieves differently.
Starting point is 01:17:41 And also, yeah, life has, I mean, you got to move forward. I mean, you have to. You got to keep moving. And, you know, all through, like, no one knows what happens behind closed doors and the conversations that you have, which I will, they'll never leave. here. Yeah. And it's not going to and it never will. But we pretty much all knew the situation that was being dealt with. So you can imagine the conversations that leads into. Yeah. Yeah. What last last thing on then we'll move forward. What do you think, though, got you through that
Starting point is 01:18:20 more than anything? Was it your faith? Was it your family? Was it calling, having people to call to, I mean, going through something like that, I guess anybody that's dealing with something like that, any tips or anything that helped you. So the big swede, that he was every day we did something. And then he had a girlfriend at the time that he had for quite a while. And I don't know how she put up with it because we were every weekend, we were doing something. Every night of the week, we'd go out for supper. I mean, Nicole is a great cook. Cook for me.
Starting point is 01:18:58 I never cooked. I do now because of that period in my life. And I actually kind of enjoy it. I didn't cook. Didn't know how to go, went to the grocery store after that. And I just felt like, how do I do this? Like, that sounds pathetic. But I went from my mom's house into marriage at 19.
Starting point is 01:19:19 And I never lived in college. Yeah. It was weirdest feeling. I walked into the grocery store and I'm like, oh. Where do I? What do I buy? Yeah. So a lot of going out to the bar and getting supper.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And we just did a lot on the weekends and hunting. Stayed busy. I stayed busy. I mean, go home and sold my house. Got out of there. I couldn't live there anymore. and disconnected myself as much as I could from the past. But that's me.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Yeah. Everyone's different. Yeah. And if that offends people, I'm sorry, but that's how I couldn't what I had to do. Yeah. So I'm in the situation now where I'm single. I live in rural America. You lived in rural America.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Dayton seems tough. Dane scene is tough Eddie Tiffs What did you find them at the bar I mean what worked for you Um so I met my current wife Um we were
Starting point is 01:20:36 Me and Eric Back to me and Eric Uh hanging out and doing things we shouldn't be doing partying too much And going to the bar too much And ended up at a party and it was at my current wife's parents place. And so his girlfriend and her were friends.
Starting point is 01:21:04 And I'd never even heard of my wife and we lived 20 miles apart our whole life. And she was going through a tough time in her life at that point too. And that's how we met. So I have no advice because totally, totally being honest, I was not ready for it and it was there. And I remember being like, why, why is this like actually praying, Lord, is this like the next one? Yeah. It was one of them deals like, oh, no. But long, sorry, short, life's good and we got a beautiful daughter.
Starting point is 01:21:46 but that's that's how I bet I have no idea no help I met my first wife in high school married her met the second one through a friend's house that's yeah I have the friends group and that's just what happened you and you and Chris here can go out yeah Chris will have to we'll have to go out
Starting point is 01:22:11 on town we'll have to go out on town sometime I yeah it's just it's rule America's tough because I think dating in this day and age is tough as it is, but then when you live not in a populated area, it's a little tougher. It's terrible. Where I live, small towns everywhere. Hardly anyone stays around. I mean, nobody.
Starting point is 01:22:40 You graduate and you go to college and the big city and rarely come back. Yep. And if you do, you're coming back for egg and it's likely not the women that come back to the area. You go to any of the bars, restaurants around our area. There's maybe four people in there. I mean, dad talks about back in the 80s, 90s, they're packed. Yep. Packed with people.
Starting point is 01:23:08 And that just goes back to show that it's getting thinner and thinner and thinner. and when you can't even go to the bar and talk to somebody, that's pretty sad. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's, I mean, I've talked to Stephen McBee about this. You know, he lives in Missouri and same thing. People underestimate how sometimes farming is a very isolating profession. Yeah. I mean, it really is.
Starting point is 01:23:38 Nobody wants to talk about it, but sometimes it gets lonely, you know? sometimes it's that's the one of the hardest parts about it yes it's peaceful yes it's a life worth living and working for but that's definitely one of the tougher parts of it i think for sure yeah so no it's definitely i i i guess i've never had to to go through the uh looking for a wife i am also a guy that loves companionship so like when i was alone it's like oh this is not yeah this Not cool. I don't enjoy this. So yeah, the loneliness. I totally understand that. That sucks. Like, go home and look at the dog. So I think...
Starting point is 01:24:25 10 p.m. on Saturday nights, that's the worst. Well, I think... During the day is pretty, pretty all right. I think one of the best Sawyer quotes, and this was actually kind of at the beginning, but we all, the whole family went to Nashville. and your mom, she has noticed, she doesn't, she doesn't drink, she hasn't drank in years, but she was really excited to go down to downtown Nashville and go to the strip, mostly for Sawyer. And so we go down there, we're walking along, and we stopped at the boot shops, and we went into Post Malone's bar, and we went into, post-Malones bar,
Starting point is 01:25:10 and we went into another bar and every place we went, she'd be like, what do you think, Sawyer? Having fun, Sawyer? It's like 4 o'clock in the afternoon on a two days before Thanksgiving. And finally, Sawyer just looks at her and goes, Mom, I'm with my family at 4 o'clock in a bar in Nashville. It can only be so, so good. Yeah, I just thought that was like, oh, that was great,
Starting point is 01:25:36 because she was trying, you know, she was trying. but it's just not the same. Yeah, I mean, I wasn't getting the full Broadway experience, but I was all right with it. It wasn't the same. I mean, you go into those three-story bars and they're all empty at four o'clock, and you're like, man, this would be really fun at 10 o'clock,
Starting point is 01:26:00 but we're not here at 10 o'clock. But no, it was awesome. It was still good. What's the most expensive mistake that you've made on the farm? Hmm, which one. Oh, man. Sure was some good content though. Like a repair breakdown type of thing? Yeah, we'll go with that.
Starting point is 01:26:24 Oh, yes. This one, and this one did get filmed. This was early days. So my role is kind of the mechanic. Definitely back then was, I didn't have anyone else. I was the mechanic. And I can't remember what we were.
Starting point is 01:26:39 were working on it was something to do with the shaker arms on the sieve sives on the combine chaffern and i believe i took part the bearings that uh drive the arms and me and uh Mitch my brother-in-law were working on it and he runs a mechanic shop private mechanic and we're working on it and we're working on it I, well, I got to back up. I had worked on it that winter, and I put the, what are they called, Chris, those things that the bearings go in. I put them on opposite, so the sieve, the flanges. So the chaffers were shaking in a circle.
Starting point is 01:27:30 And we were combining, boys. We combined. Took out the chaper frame, I believe. Oh, wow. Because it was shaking in a circle. had to get all new arms, which we had just put on. Then me and him are doing this in season. I mean, she's machine down.
Starting point is 01:27:48 Help. I'm help. And in a rush, two guys working. He said, go tie it, go put together the other side. I went over there. He had everything what looked to be tight. Wasn't tight. I never tightened it.
Starting point is 01:28:05 But I put everything beyond that point together. This is in the repair of the screw up. Yep. Okay, we're ready to go combine again. Go to the field. I made it half a mile down the field and she let loose. Oh, my God. And I hear this banging and it's like, well, I got,
Starting point is 01:28:27 and that was back in the 70s series where you can leave the rotor on and get out. And so I get out and I come around the combine and I can just hear like steel pounding on steel. And here the shaker arms had all fell off of the bearings and were slamming into the clean grain elevator auger and flattened it. Oh gosh. And now not only, oh my gosh, my dad and I didn't say a word. I just said, I got to go back to the yard. And something come loose. I got to go back to the yard. On the radio? Yeah. Your radio to them.
Starting point is 01:29:08 Yeah. Okay. Sounds good. Did not say the severity of the situation at hand. So now we're talking the auger is pinched in the tube. Yeah. And how do I fix this? And so then the, I had to pull the flighting out the left hand side, the way it comes out,
Starting point is 01:29:33 out the left-hand side of the combine, put the arms all back together. Luckily, nothing got damaged in that part. Just lost the bolts, got new bolts, put that together. But now I got a crushed. Clean grain auger. Yeah. So out comes the bottle jack in there and poking out multiple areas.
Starting point is 01:29:51 Nothing round about this thing. Slid the new auger in and ran it was good enough. Ran it forever that way. Holy smart. Yeah, luckily. But the expense of that was obviously the chaffer, and all the arms and that, but then that led into a whole other mistake and accident. That was...
Starting point is 01:30:10 Did Doug O and Randy, did you eventually tell them? Or did they know? I kept that one pretty quiet. Yeah. It didn't cost any money. Yeah. The combine was forever permanently damaged. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:23 I did call for a new part, which of course, they don't have those on hand. No. Why would... That never happens. No. I mean... And it was like, I can't remember $1,200 or something for... that or 800, something like that for that transition boot.
Starting point is 01:30:37 And it's like, well, it's not rubbing the augers. We're running her. That, you know, you can take solace in the fact that stuff happens more than what, more than what you would know. When I was selling sheds, there was a guy down southwest of Brighton, Iowa, and he traded, he had traded machines, got a new machine, bigger, a lot bigger machine than what he'd ran and he had a field down on the bottom and it had power line coming through it and he unloaded and forgot to fold the auger in hit the power line and um messed it up bad enough
Starting point is 01:31:24 that they had to the the uh implement company came and they had to crane pick it up get it off and they went and they took the auger off of a brand new machine, took it out there, put it on, got back to going, and he finished that day, got up the next morning, started in to finish that field, and he did the same thing. No way. He did the exact same thing. And this was the dad.
Starting point is 01:31:54 So the only good thing was that it wasn't the son, it was the dad, but that poor guy. So yeah. Those got things happen. So, yeah, that's, if it was my dad that did that, I think he would retire himself. Yep, yep. What did grandpa?
Starting point is 01:32:15 So grandpa farmed all the way up until he's 90. Yeah. Right. And didn't he kind of gets that point where didn't he scrape the barn or some shit? Yeah. He finally was like, all right. We, there's a, there's just a little 7,000 bushel bin back here around the corner and we always put beans in it.
Starting point is 01:32:31 and you had to put up the auger and jockey it around so it was as close to the bend next to it over here as you could possibly get and the hopper would swing out basically in front of this barn and so when you came to unload you would have to come in and then turn as short as you could and not run into the barn to get the wagon in there to where the hopper would and um I came in here to unload and there's green paint down the front of the barn and there's like three boards that are broke. And I knew what happened, but I didn't say anything. And before long, my dad comes down and he gets off the tractor and I'm just finishing unloading. He walks up and he's like, what in the hell did you do to the barn? He goes, what's all that? And I just said, I didn't say anything.
Starting point is 01:33:32 And he chewed on me for a little bit, you know, that you need to pay attention and that da-da-da. And I just looked at him. I said, Dad, I said, look at the front of your tractor. And the weights on the front of 7820 were white. There's just white paint across him. And he looked at that. He just stood there a minute. And he says, you think you can manage this?
Starting point is 01:33:58 and I said, yeah, he goes, I'm going to the house. He goes, I don't have any business being out here. And that was the last time that he ever, that he ever helped us with harvest. Yep. Because that's, because this is his barn. This was the first thing he built when he came home after the war. So it meant a lot to him. And I think that just pissed him off so much that I didn't ever have to have that
Starting point is 01:34:20 conversation of like, you know, you really shouldn't be out there. Now, I thought it a lot of times, but I never had to say it. And then after that, he was like, no. he was done. So anyway. How fun is it, like what's you and Duggo's father-son relationship dynamic on the farm? Because that's something that we share together and you guys share. It's something that's pretty special.
Starting point is 01:34:47 I mean, what's it mean to you? You know, what's it mean to you and how's all that? I think when that day comes where he retires is gone, it's going to be a totally different farming is fun because I work with my friends and my dad family. I'm not going to lie and say that every day is a glorious day. I mean, we can get at it at each other pretty good every once in a while. That's working with family. You lie in if you've never experienced that. But yeah, I mean, I think that's a large part of what I enjoy. And I don't think it would be fun at all if it was me and a bunch of hired men that are there trying to punch clocks.
Starting point is 01:35:34 Yeah. That don't sound fun. Like farming's fun because we have a good time and we enjoy working with each other and work with a bunch of people that are just there to get a paycheck. That ain't going to be fun. Yeah. And we all have the same mindset. All of us working together is pretty fussy about how we like stuff.
Starting point is 01:35:55 and motivated. We don't have any, fortunately, anyone that's lazy. Yep. So, yeah, it all works very well. Yeah. What about being a dad? You said that that's fairly new in your life. How's that experience been? Life changing. Yeah. The first couple months, man, I'm like, what have I done?
Starting point is 01:36:22 Yeah. She's amazing. I love her. But at first, man, you as a dad can't do anything. Yeah. I mean, just breastfed baby and just they don't want you. Right. Hold her ball and crying.
Starting point is 01:36:44 It's like, and then the wife's mad because you're not helping. Well, if you can't help, because that just makes it worse sometimes. But now that she's just about, well, I would say about six months and on when they get the personality and now really look forward to seeing me. Like when I get home, she gets so excited. That's so cool. And I'm excited for the, and I've never been a baby type of guy. Like, I like the toddler size, like where they follow you. They learn.
Starting point is 01:37:18 You can teach them. I'm looking forward to that. a lot like dad. I'm a lot like dad and he's like if he could just order them when they're like five or six and no diapers. That's the perfect time to go. But no, yeah, it's a it's a blessing and it's cool now to see the personality changing and the learning. She is very, mom says she's a lot like I was into everything. Got to figure everything out. And I'm sure all kids are like that. But I can definitely see it, but I'm around her more than any kid I've ever met. So I noticed like, oh, that's interesting what she's doing there.
Starting point is 01:38:02 You think you'll have, I think you'll have more kids? You want to have more kids? Yeah, I would imagine we will be. That's the million dollar question. And all I can say is after I'm done building a house. Yeah, how's that going? How's the house building? I think probably just finished up shingling it.
Starting point is 01:38:20 It's framed, no windows. It's Tyvec and they were shingling last week. So they're still working on some framing stuff. It's been a progress or process stressful. Yeah, building a house in 2026 is probably not that fun. I wish I would have done it in 2019, but I did not have any money then. Yeah. I think I have money now, but that project makes me feel the most bro.
Starting point is 01:38:46 I've ever felt my life, I'm pretty sure, because everything about it, it's just so horrible, but yet I hate living in town. And the future of where I'm going to be is by the farm. And I'll tell you what, that 20-minute drive one way at midnight or 1 a.m., not only dangerous, that extra 40 minutes of sleep becomes a large percentage of how much sleep you're getting. Yeah. So I'm looking forward. And as dad gets older and definitely, he talks about going to Arizona all the time now and I can see that.
Starting point is 01:39:26 You know, I never could see that years ago. And I can see that now getting on mom and dad's mind a lot. And that having dad four miles away from the farm, hey, there's someone at the farm or, you know, emergency on the weekend or whatever, the corn drying.
Starting point is 01:39:41 that's going to be me. Yeah. Give it 10 years. Yeah. So that's kind of what spurred on the house. Was A, having a kid, then the wife quit her job and lucky enough that she can stay at home. And that eliminates us from needing to live in town. She had to live in town for her job was part of the requirement.
Starting point is 01:40:09 And once that was done, I'm like, we're moving. Yeah. But it's been a cool process. I mean, it's probably the only time I'll build a house in my life. So we're trying to do it as right as what we can afford. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Yeah. Which is very easy to run into that cap. Oh, I'm sure of that. It's so sad. Just the, I mean, quality of builders today is, I mean, shit just doesn't get built like it used to. Yeah. Well, and just how.
Starting point is 01:40:41 quickly one do you want this or this and that decision is simple but when you have to make a thousand of those decisions and each one of them is this much more this way than that way it's just crazy we're very lucky the company that we're building through general contracting company i believe he's done it for like 30 years um he's got an awesome business it makes it very easy for the client, interior exterior designer, himself that manages all these, like it ain't the local builder that starts and finishes it like what you envision or what I envision. It's this crew does the framing. This crew does the shingles.
Starting point is 01:41:29 This crew does the drywall. It's not the same crew there. They'll be there for three weeks and then they're gone. Never see them again. So it's pretty seamless. it also speeds the process up too. I mean, it's not that same builder. There's like the framers were there and the shingler.
Starting point is 01:41:48 Like they're doing two things at once. And so, yeah, it's an experience. I'm enjoying it, but also it's stressful. Yeah, without a doubt. Yeah. Especially in the commodity prices. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:04 Yep. For sure. Okay. one last, I forgot this, but I wanted to ask you. So if your machine sheds on fire, what's the one piece of equipment that you would, what's the first thing you would save? What's the piece of equipment you have that you...
Starting point is 01:42:25 Let's say it started to catch on fire and you got a little time to save it. It's not like you're walking into an inferno yet. But you got time to get in there and grab it. What are you grabbing? Probably the semi that we just, just built last winter. I mean, the time we spent on that, I mean polishing the interkid detail that we put into it.
Starting point is 01:42:47 And there were some people, and I'm not going to name names at the farm that did not enjoy that process at all. But that was fun. I really enjoyed that. I like shiny, nice things. I think it might insult some people on the internet, but that viewers, you know, oh, it's going to be shiny and nice. I enjoy it. Yeah. What'd you build? Uh, 379. Yes. Peterbilt 95 model. We had just overhauled it. Um, 38 grand into an overhaul. It was ridiculous. Uh, and it sat in the shed because it had a sleeper on it. And all our trucks have pusher axles and it don't have a lift
Starting point is 01:43:28 axle. Didn't. Um, and had a sleeper on it. So it was heavier. And it's like, this is like our nicest truck. Yep. And so then it's like, okay, well, how about we day cab it, start there. And then it went from there to let's do everything. Let's get a pusher axle like that. It was down the road. Well, that needs all new diesel tanks. And then all exhaust now. And pretty soon it's like a money pit. But I love that truck. I drive it. I smile. Not all the retired guys or whoever, drives it maybe don't like to hear the straight pipes, but I get in there and I'm just like, well, that Jake breaks hammer. Yeah, that's awesome.
Starting point is 01:44:17 So that's probably your favorite piece of equipment to ride out. I would say right now, I mean, I'm not sentimental. A lot of our equipment has been updated in the last, you know, five to 10 years. There's Grandpa's 1086 is about original in 79. It has like 15,000 hours on it, original engine. That's a cool piece. We have his 70, John Deer's 70. But it's one of those things.
Starting point is 01:44:46 The more stuff that you have, like, how do I describe this? The more stuff that you have that's cool, a sports car, your grandpa's tractor, you start keeping all this stuff. And now you need a shed for this stuff. Now you've got batteries that are shot and a pony motor on the tractor and you don't use it. It's there. It's cool. A little bit of sentimental value.
Starting point is 01:45:13 Like why I don't want to sell that? It ain't value ain't there. You know, it ain't like you're going to pay off death by selling it and get a little bit of side cash. But I go both ways. It's cool, but we should we should sell that. Yeah. I understand. That's the thing about everybody, like, everybody wants a sports car or a supercar.
Starting point is 01:45:38 You know, everybody wants a Lambo, you know, our generation. They all obsess about Lamborghini. Then you look into the maintenance of what a supercar requires. Can't even afford the maintenance on the car. Yeah, do you really want one? Because you don't even know what you're getting yourself into. Supercars and supermodels. Probably the same thing.
Starting point is 01:45:57 Kind of the same level of maintenance required. I'm willing to take the risk on both, though. Maybe. let me know how that works out for you start with the car start with the car it'll be cheaper guaranteed yeah 100% well i got one last we're gonna we're gonna do what we're kind of implemented a new segment on on barn talk and we're gonna call it the golden shovel so
Starting point is 01:46:19 who is a brand person could be a piece of equipment that you kind of want to give your your flowers to and say they're they're doing something great and why It could be somebody in your life, could be a brand, could be a piece of equipment. But who's somebody you think needs a little shout out? Oh, man. That puts me on the spot to think a little bit. It's all right.
Starting point is 01:46:49 We got time. Editing is a wonderful thing. I would say the event that we're going to tonight, actually, the farm rescue thing. I think that the people that do that, the organization, the help farmers that are hurt, especially, you know, the smaller farmer by themselves or two or three of them, you know, it'll be interesting to see what happens with that in the future, you know, as farmers get bigger. They'll always be the smaller ones, but the bigger they get, the more someone leaves, you absorb it. But I've seen directly some of the families that they've helped and they've got a
Starting point is 01:47:43 good thing going there. We're actually going there tonight. So that's what made me think about that. And the people, the families that take time out of their day and have time to be able to go and do that sounds like an awesome job too. You know, if you're retired and you can go farm and not have to pay for it and just go there. Kind of cool. Yeah, no, they, we've heard a lot of good things from so many people about what they do. And you can just go look at their stuff and it's pretty freaking awesome what they do. We need to get somebody from Farm Rescue on here to talk about what they do.
Starting point is 01:48:19 Oh, yeah. He's got the connections. Perfect. Yeah, we need to do that because I don't think they need more. What they're doing is so cool and so impactful. They need more. They need as much exposure as they can get, I think. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:34 Yeah, there's nothing more daunting than being hurt and not being able to do anything. I can't imagine what that feels like. I know what it felt like just going through the cancer thing of not being able to be there. That was my portion of it. And I felt guilty because I know everyone else has to work that much harder and the stress of that. and so I can't imagine what it's like to be out from an accident or health something, whatever it is. So that's off to all the guys that go and help. What's your North Star? What are you working towards? Like in the next, your goal for the next
Starting point is 01:49:18 five years, where do you want to go? I always had it growing up. And I mean from forever, the one year, three year five year plan this is what i want to accomplish this year this is what i want three five and i would say through the uh nicoles thing that just went out the window and honestly i never got back to it yeah it just it's like the life can change so quick and uh i don't know i just keep plugging away honestly i mean it's uh just yeah i don't know i never know Farming changes so much. I mean, it's hard to know. You know, like Grandio says, you never know where the next piece of land is going to come from.
Starting point is 01:50:04 You know, it could go the other way too. Yep. The thing is, the world's changing. Like the world, like it feels like everything is changing at such a rapid rate that it's hard to map it all out sometimes. And yeah, you have first world experience of life can turn on a dime really quick, you know. and it's tough to always know where you're going. Yeah. No, this is getting into the house.
Starting point is 01:50:32 That'll be a huge thing. That'll be a huge goal. You know, everyone has the goals of, maybe not everyone, but the dream of building a house. And some people get to do it 10 times. And some people are lucky enough to do it once. And I'm really looking forward to that.
Starting point is 01:50:50 That's going to be cool. Yeah. where can people find you and learn more about what you do and follow what you're up to? Yeah, pretty much any platform, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, YouTube, obviously Larson Farms, TikTok. There's so many spam accounts on there. I don't even, I think I get lost in all of a sudden I'll be scrolling and it's Larson Farms. Yeah. So be careful on TikTok with the spam accounts.
Starting point is 01:51:21 And I know a lot of people get taken advantage of buy those. It's terrible, honestly. It's scary. It makes me feel bad, even though I have nothing to do about it. But, yeah, check us out on really any platform. Sweet. Got your words out? I think I do.
Starting point is 01:51:39 Got anything else you want to leave with people? I think we're good. I think we're good. Well, Chad, it was an absolute pleasure to have you on, man. I'm glad you made the trip. We're honored to have you here. We were honored to have you here. I thought it was a great episode.
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