Barn Talk - Where Did This'll Do Come From?
Episode Date: April 23, 2021Welcome To Barn Talk! In today’s FIRST episode, the boys discuss their stories on how they got to be where they are now, how the farm was named, Tork’s childhood, and LEGENDARY stories of grandpa ...Lawrence & more… SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST ➱https://bit.ly/3a7r3nR SUBSCRIBE TO THIS’LL DO FARM ➱ https://bit.ly/2X8g45c ADD US ON: INSTAGRAM ➱ https://bit.ly/3gaobdN ------------------------------- ***PLEASE NOTE*** Barn Talk is a significant break from the typical content viewers have come to expect from the This’ll Do Farm. Please be advised that we will be exploring a wide variety of topics (some adult-themed) and our younger viewers (and their parents) should be advised that some topics will be for mature audiences only. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to Barn Talk.
What happens at the barn stays at the barn.
Until now, we're going to let it all out for you guys.
Here we go.
So if you're watching this or listening to this, you are getting the raw first draft.
So there hasn't been any dry runs.
We finally got all the junk to work, and we sat down and decided that the best way to figure out how it was going to go was just record.
And if you're hearing this, we must have decided that it sounded all right.
So bear with us.
There's probably a few things that we'll have to get dressed up, but we'll get those all buttoned down here before long.
So a little bit about us.
So I'm Tork, and I guess a little bit of background.
If you're not familiar with the YouTube side of our farm, and this is your first time hearing us,
I'm a fifth-generation farmer, born and raised here in southeast Iowa, and I've kind of taken a long circle journey to get back to here.
So I grew up on this farm, raising hogs, and ended up kind of leaving the farm.
When we got rid of all our hogs, I went to work for a construction company,
and then I went to work for another construction company and became a salesman for that company.
Specifically for agriculture and hog barns.
Yeah, basically I went to work for a company that builds hog buildings.
You went out of the industry, but you kind of were still, like you went out of the hog business.
but you still are kind of in the hog business.
Yeah, when that, a lot of you can identify
if you're hog producers, 95, 96, and then 98.
And 98 convinced us that we weren't going to stick around
with 240 sows fair to finish.
So that was when we quit Farrowan.
And my dad sure wasn't going to go find something else to do.
So it was my turn to go find a job.
So first I went to work for a construction company building hog buildings, and I just worked on a crew.
And then a little bit later, after a couple years of doing that, I went to work for another company that built buildings.
And I was kind of the fireup guy and oversaw the maintenance.
And then that kind of grew.
And I became a salesman.
And I sold hog buildings for, I don't know, five or six years.
I was with them for 15 years altogether,
and then I left that company three years ago.
Oh, no, five years ago.
Five years ago, and I went to work for Eichelberger Farms in Wayland, Iowa,
and that's who we actually feed pigs for today.
And I went to work for them and oversaw the field staff,
and then came back to the farm full-time this last year,
and because the guy sitting across from me,
he built his first hog building.
I've got three, and he's got one,
and when he decided that he was going to farm full-time,
I didn't want to miss out on the fun,
so I came home, and we're in it together now.
Yeah, so a little bit of background about me.
My name's Sawyer.
I am a sixth-generation farmer on this farm,
and I'm Tork's youngest son.
and I don't really have much of a story like TORC because I'm 21 years old,
but basically I was in high school and I was trying to figure out what I wanted to do.
I always kind of had an interest in agriculture and business and everything like that.
So the farm intrigued me.
At the time when I was younger, we didn't have, I mean, we didn't have,
dad didn't build his hog barns yet and I didn't know if I was going to get into it,
but he slowly started building his hog barns.
and that was going to give me an opportunity to come to the farm and work right out of high school.
So that intrigued me a lot.
And I didn't really, I ended up not going to college.
And I came back and farmed full-time right out of the gate.
And some people, I took a lot of, I think I took a lot of crap for that because that wasn't very mainstream to do that.
And pretty much, it's not like that anymore.
I think people are starting to realize that college is a little overpriced and there's nothing wrong with college.
It's just it wasn't for me. It's different for every person. But now I'm here full time and I'm a very
I don't know. I guess I could say I'm a hustler. I wanted to make some income off the farm and I also
wanted to do something for the ad community. I saw a lot of
just misinformation and misconceptions around the media that was kind of depot, depromoting or
bashing agriculture and I wanted to do something about it and I wanted to educate people on what we do
and I saw that as an opportunity as a side hustle and also to help the industry that I'm in in a big way.
So that's kind of where we're at now.
So we have a this will do farm YouTube channel and a brand on Instagram, TikTok, everything like that.
And we just kind of show our lives as farmers day to day.
And we do the farm and then we do that too.
Sawyer generously shows that as we have a brand.
I'm just the emotional baggage of the brand and sometimes the punching bag.
I started out not knowing which end of a camera to hold and had very little faith that any of this was going to amount to anything.
However, I needed a labor, so I was like, okay, let's do it.
That's fine.
If it keeps you happy, we'll do it.
and maybe one of these days you'll just get bored with it and we can get more stuff done.
But surprisingly, to me, not to Sawyer, Sawyer knew that it was going to be, that it was going to work right out the, right off the gate.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the touch on that a little bit, I kind of was like, I saw the opportunity of social media because I saw so many people using it for good, using it to start their own business, using it to create influence.
and it was kind of like, you know, around the 2013, 2018 is when I graduated.
So I grew up with social media and I just saw the opportunity with it.
And not a lot of people in the ag community.
There's very few, I guess you can say, influencers.
I kind of hate that word, but there was an opportunity there to, you know, get in and make an impact
and, you know, help our farm out too while helping other people learn about ag.
Yeah, I, the curious thing to me was when we started,
on the on the social media side on the youtube side i felt like i felt like there was nothing about
what we do on a daily basis that anybody was going to give a hoot about because so much of so
much of our everyday uh lives is pretty pretty mundane you know we the size of our to us yeah
the size of our pigs change at any given time you know basically we
We've probably got a barn that's about ready to sell or we're selling.
We've got one that all our barns are weaned to finish.
So we've got one that we're probably either just getting wiener pigs
or we're just getting ready to get them.
And then we've got pigs that are somewhere in between.
And so, you know, your power washing, you're loading pigs,
your walking pens, your spot treating pigs.
I mean, it's the same thing I've done my whole life.
So to me, it didn't seem that interesting.
but it it blew my mind the first the first videos that we did, which if you go back and watch
the beginning, they were pretty horrendous.
They were pretty crude.
I didn't know anything.
And I knew even less.
But it wasn't so much the video to me.
It was the comments that people would give us, which the vast, vast, vast majority of them are very
positive.
We don't get very many.
I was actually surprised how few derogatory comments we get.
I mean, we get some.
They're kind of funny.
I kind of like them.
I always want to reply to the really bad ones and just say,
wow, you must have an enormous penis.
You're just a badass.
But I don't say that.
Well, it's like how miserable do you have to be to comment on somebody's, you know, like how.
Pig moving video.
Yeah, like how, that's with every comment on any type of content, I guess, on social media.
It's like, how miserable do you have to be to comment on something that you hated?
Like, when I come across something I don't like on social media, I just scroll past it or I just click out of the video.
I don't take the effort to dislike the video and then take the effort to comment something down below.
I mean, it's just, it's crazy.
But there's people out there like that.
Yeah, that's right.
And I'm thankful that we're able to give them an opportunity to vent off all that negative energy.
because it doesn't bother me.
We can be the body bag.
My shoulders are broad, so they have to be because I'm not very tall.
But the good comments, you know, people were so positive and they really enjoyed seeing
because they didn't know.
They just didn't know how we take care of pigs.
They didn't know where their food comes from, you know, the things that go in.
And a lot of positive comments in that.
when you know not only what we do,
but why we do it and we show why we do it,
it makes a huge impact.
That's the biggest thing is,
and we're kind of going down to rabbit hole already,
but in the ag community and just in the food industry,
there's just no,
they just tell you in the magazines,
you know,
they just,
they write articles about it,
but they never,
there's not farmers showing you what's going on.
And so for us to make it as an industry,
industry, we have to, you know, adopt the new age, I guess, and go with the times of showing people
because it's no longer you can just tell them. You know, you can't just write in a magazine,
hey, this is how your pork is produced, you know, you got to show people. And it can't be in a,
you know, there's those videos that are corny. Kind of cringy. They're cringy and corny. And it's like,
be real because that's what people actually, you know, they care about that. Hi, I'm Tork Whistler.
I am a pork producer and I care and I need a pit like a pitch for exactly I take care of my pigs the best of my ability and so we can be politically correct but that's not how we're going to be on this on this podcast and on our YouTube channel we're as real as you can get we're not going to be fake we're going to show you what's going on in our day to day lives and we're going to say the word penis on this podcast because that's who we are or we're not going to be fake.
You're not going to front and fake it.
You know, this is who we are.
And yeah, so here we are now.
We started a YouTube channel, you know,
documentary day to day lives as farmers.
This will do farm if you're not following it.
But now we kind of took a step further.
And here we are in a barn with a podcast going.
And it's pretty crazy.
But the thing that I think are our audience that we built on this will do farm is they want
to know more about who we are not, you know, just as farmers.
They want to know who we are as people.
And we try to show our personality as best we can while we're doing our farming work.
But, you know, it's kind of hard.
You're kind of limited.
So here, you know, we can talk about things that we genuinely like to discuss outside of the farming.
And you guys can kind of see us more.
Yeah.
And, you know, everything we do on YouTube, it's a 10-minute, 10-minute, 12-minute clip,
which a lot of the questions that we get,
you can't cover that. And you really can't cover that in 10 minutes. And so, you know,
this is an opportunity to kind of, well, get off in the weeds. But there's some pretty good,
there's a lot of good history here. And there's a lot of reasons why we do what we do. And
controversial topics and everything. And yeah, I mean, we can really discuss things a lot further and a lot longer
and really explain stuff thoroughly.
My beauty tips.
I mean, there's all kinds of stuff we can get into.
Bitcoin.
We like our Bitcoin.
That might be very controversial,
but we're going to explain all that stuff later on.
And anytime you watch our podcast,
I'm pretty sure you've got to say this
if you ever bring up financials
in a podcast or anything.
This is not financial advice.
Yes, no.
We are just poor farmers.
We're cash poor.
We don't take our advice,
but if we were really,
that smart we'd be doing something else anyway yeah anyway it's an update uh for your update it's an
update for bitcoin bitcoin's pretty good today we have a lot of people that have asked us you know what is this
'll do what's this'll do mean where did this will do come from farm history how do we become where we
are today yeah and and that's a multi that's probably a multi podcast in itself because there's a lot of
history, but I thought maybe we would just talk. We're not going to go all the way back today,
but we'll go back a little bit. So I wish I had coined the phrase, This'll Do, but I actually
didn't. My dad is the one that came up with what was This'll Do Farm. And really, it was a little
bit of a spoof in the fact that he only had 160 acres here. And at the time that he
that he bought his brother and his sister out, when he came home and started farming, he was,
it was in 1949. And he had a one-third interest in 160 acres. And even then, that wasn't very much.
And doesn't sound very promising.
I think it was probably pretty tight, but that's part of the reason that he got in the hog business.
And ironically, the barn that we're recording in today, that was the first thing that he built when he came home after the war and after college.
He cashed in his war bonds and he built this barn in 1949.
but fast forward a few years and he bought his brother and his sister out and when when all the paperwork was
being done i'm not sure if it was the recorder or if it was his lawyer or who it was asked him
what his farm name was and he hadn't really thought about that this story is kind of it's
Just mind-blowing, because it's like, for me, I'd probably, I'd probably have the farm name
written, you know, made up in my head and planned everything out.
But he's so much, he was, you're so much like him, I think, in that way that you would
have just been like, oh, just show up to the meeting and just not have a name already
planned out.
I think he was just, he was just so focused on just getting to the point that he could, that
he could swing it to, to be able to own it that.
He didn't even think you think, you think.
He wasn't even thinking about that.
Go ahead.
Anyway, they asked him, you know, what's your farm name?
And he looked at my mother, and they both kind of looked at each other.
And he said, well, he said, this will do, I guess.
He goes, yeah, this will do.
And he said at the time, he said, some may be better, but this will do.
And so that's what stuck.
And that kind of just was the unwritten name of the farm forever.
And that was kind of my dad's motto because he always was playing catch up.
And, I mean, maybe I should go back a little bit further.
What do you mean by ketchup?
Because some people don't really get why he used to.
So he was, you know, if you can do the math, I'm going to be 50 years old this summer.
And my dad was 52 years old when I was born.
And when he left home to go to college.
Don't get any crazy ideas, by the way.
You never know.
You never know.
It's never too late.
Never too late.
I don't know if I want another sibling, so we'll just keep it where we're at.
So he was born in 19.
He was born in 1919.
And he went to college.
I think he went to college in 39.
And he went to the University of Colorado.
And the war came along.
And he graduated from college.
and he had a business degree and the war was going on.
And he ended up, got drafted,
went to the Air Force, became a fire pilot,
and flew 52 missions, bomber escort in Europe,
flew out of Italy.
And when he got done with that...
P-51 Mustang.
P-51 Mustang.
We can get all into that more than another podcast
because it's pretty crazy.
It is kind of crazy.
All the stories he's told us.
but the P-51 Mustang was the premier aircraft.
Premier prop-driven fighter plane of its time.
If you could fly anything during that time.
Change my mind.
You could fly anything during that time.
It'd be a P-51 Mustang.
Yeah, it was a pretty good ride.
But anyway, when he got done with that,
he didn't know what he wanted to do.
And the GI Bill was going on.
So he went back to college.
He went back to the University of Colorado.
And he was part of the first class of the law school.
and he thought he wanted to be a lawyer.
And so he did that for four years.
And by the time he got done, he passed the Colorado Bar.
And he real-
Back when college was actually affordable, not to where it was now.
I think he said that it was $1.20 a credit hour is what it was.
That's insane.
So a little more bang for your buck, maybe.
I don't know.
Well, you can, most people, if they did four years now and then they don't use their degree,
it's kind of like parents are mad at you and you're kind of mad at yourself.
But, you know, he went to four years to be a lawyer and then ended up not being a lawyer.
So it wasn't such a.
Yeah.
He got done and passed the bar and got a job with a law firm down in Denver and realized basically that he hated lawyers and he never wanted to have to pick up a law book again.
And so he came home in 49, started farming.
And yeah, he was able to buy his brother and sister out and kept going.
So when I say that he always felt like he was behind, you know, everybody that was his age that was farming was a lot further ahead.
You know, most of them had kids and they were well on their way to working on the next generation.
And he was just trying to get started.
And so, you know, everything, he always seemed to be in a hurry, and he was pretty driven, clear up until he finally retired.
Well, he was pretty well driven.
When did he, I can't really remember because I was, I don't know, 10, I don't know, how old I was, but he, didn't he quit when he was like 90?
Wasn't it 90 when he stopped driving the tractor and helping during harvest?
Yeah, so that's another, that's another tie-in to this.
barn is he quit driving a tractor when we were unloading beans into the bin that sits right next
of this barn.
And to pull in and dump, you have to drive like you're driving straight into the front side
of the barn and then turn as short as you can for the hopper on the wagon to hit the auger
because of the way you have to set the auger in there between another bin.
Kind of a cluster.
It was, yeah, that's a little bit of a cluster.
And, uh, but we're not getting rid of this barn, so we're going to make it work.
Yeah.
And it's easier now because we've made some more room.
But anyway, um, he pulled in and he was driving our, our cab tractor.
He was driving our 7820.
And, um, he pulled out to go back to the field and I pulled in.
And I noticed, uh, green paint down the front of the barn and the door was,
busted in on the front and I was like, holy shit.
Glad it wasn't me.
Yeah, I always, yeah, I was glad it wasn't me.
So anyway, I was unloading and he comes pulling in and he walks up there and he was pretty
irate and he asked me, I won't use all the expletives that he used, but he basically wanted
to know what the hell I had done to the barn.
And I looked at him and I said, why don't you just walk on back to the front end of your
tractor and look at the weights on the 7820 and there's white paint down those weights and he just shook
his head and came over and he goes that's it I'm done I don't I don't have any damn business driving a
tractor if I can't see any better than that you just do it you just I'm just going to the house
anyway so there's guys that you know they talk about how hard it is for that generation like
they talk about trying to get their dad out of the tractor,
out of the combine.
My dad was,
he was just the guy that,
you know,
whatever it was,
when he was done,
he was done.
And I'll give you another quick story is he smoked all through college,
all through the war,
because everybody smoked.
And all the way through law school,
smoked Lucky Strikes.
And when he came home,
he smoked.
I think his brother smoked too.
and would have been about like, I don't know, probably 54 or 55.
He got up one day, and he always wore coveralls,
and he was getting ready to leave the house, and he left,
and he left his cigarettes laying on the shelf in the basement where he got ready,
and he came over to this barn, because he had hogs in this barn,
and he realized he forgot his cigarettes, and that got him thinking that he didn't know what
hell he needed cigarettes for anyway. Then he decided that he didn't need to smoke and he just quit.
He just cold turkey quit and no no nicotine patch no yeah none of that. He just said he was done
and that was it. Oh man. He was kind of an all or nothing guy but yeah he he he um I don't remember
the last load of pigs that we loaded out he was probably in his he was probably in his 80s when he
quit loading pigs. In fact, the last load of pigs that we loaded, he had a mild stroke because we
got done, and we went over to the house, and he called me, and I had left, and he called me,
and I came back up, and he told me, he goes, I don't feel good. He goes, I just don't feel right. He
goes, my vision's not right, and he goes, my arm hurts, and I knew right away, I'm like, he didn't
look right. I said, we better get you to the doctor.
So we took him to the hospital in our local town here.
And as you can imagine, the doctor, he looked at me and he asked me, he goes,
what was your dad doing, you know, when this happened?
I said, well, we were loading pigs.
And the doctor looked at me kind of like he would look at a, what are you doing, son?
Yeah, at a father that, like, I don't know, had his kid running power equipment or something.
And I just told that doctor, I said, yeah, I know, you telling me can't do it.
And the guy was like, I get it.
But anyway.
Good Lauren's stories right there.
Yeah, there's a pile of those.
So through my childhood, that idea of this will do was that if you could fix it yourself,
you're going to fix it yourself.
And if you could figure out a way to do something with what you had,
that was what you were going to do.
Doing whatever it takes to get it down.
Yeah, whatever it takes.
And so it was kind of the unsung or unmentioned slogan.
And then, I don't know, I was probably five or six years old.
We actually had a sign made for our mailbox,
and it was like a four-by-four double-sided sign,
and it said, Whistler at the top of it,
and it said, this will do farm,
LS and 3-T's,
Lawrence Shirley and the three boys, the three T's were us,
callivated to yield contentment.
And that was always saying.
We have that in our bio of our Instagram.
I just, it's cool.
It's kind of a deep meaning, but yeah.
I just hope people don't, when they look at our brand,
I hope they don't look and say, you know,
we talk about this, that this will do like we're,
we're just content with what we have.
And it's good to be content when you, what you have,
but don't, you know, I don't want people to get the wrong idea.
It's like settling and not trying to,
to achieve more or anything like that, but it's like doing whatever it takes to get it done,
pulling your bootstraps up and just getting it done. That's kind of mentality.
It's not, it's not settling for mediocrity. It's striving to be your best, but doing, you know,
with what you've got, making something out of nothing. Yeah, and exactly. So, and then fast forward,
I built my first hog building in 2010, and same deal.
Today, everybody forms an LLC for whatever they do,
and I was working through getting all the finances together,
and my wife and I were talking about, okay, what are we going to call this?
And I knew right away that I wanted it to be, this will do farm.
So this will do farm LLC came along,
and then, you know, come to today and the YouTube channel when Sawyer, well, that's your story.
That's where your story begins.
Yeah, so I guess I always kind of knew this will do farm.
That's what our farm was named.
I never really understood it.
I mean, I just knew the slogan or whatever.
And when I was trying to, I started to come back into the farm and farm full time.
And I was trying to figure out kind of a side hustle.
and we can talk about why we started a YouTube farm page and all that stuff.
But short story long, I use this-l-do farm as the brand name.
And, yeah, it just fit.
I didn't want to use our last name as the brand page, you know,
because it just, I didn't like that.
And I liked how ours, it's always been that way.
So I just kind of wanted to honor Grandpa in that sense and everything like that.
But yeah, so when,
dad built his first hog building and I was in high school and then you built your second one
or I was in middle school I think when the first one and then high school you built your second one maybe
or I don't know I don't know the timeline exactly but then you built three hog barns and you know
I was decided if I wanted to go to college and you guys know college is very very expensive
and if I were to go to college I probably was going to go to Iowa State and major in ag studies
which is pretty much...
Major in drinking.
Drinking a lot of bush light and not doing a whole lot.
Finding some decent-looking girl to help me out and tutor me
and, you know, get to do my work pretty much for me.
It's probably how that goes.
But anyway, I knew that I wanted to come back here and farm,
and I knew I was going to come back here and do that four years later
if I were to go to college.
So I didn't want to spend the money.
I didn't want to spend dad or mom's money, I guess,
and I just wanted to do what I wanted to do right out.
up the gate. So I didn't think I needed to go. Back to the farm history, I mean, that's pretty much,
I don't know, that's pretty much what it is. You, you kind of went off. Yeah. So I'm the youngest of three,
oh yeah, I was going to say. So I have two brothers, and I have one that lives 800 miles to the east
and one that lives 800 miles to the southwest. And ironically, we get along perfectly because we have a buffer
between us. But, you know, so I'm kind of a, I'm, I feel like I'm kind of a unique, I have a
unique experience in the fact that my, my oldest brother is seven years older than I am,
and then my middle brother is five, and then I came along late. But, um, what dad's trying to
tell you guys is he was an accident. Yeah, probably was. I probably was.
Lawrence's best accident he's ever had was you. That's right. That's right. That's right.
That's what we like to tell you to make you feel better.
Yep.
Build me up.
Build me up.
But, you know, essentially, there's a generation missing between me and my dad.
And so that made for a very difficult upbringing.
And my dad was a military guy, very disciplined, very black and white.
Do it my way or a highway, pretty much?
Yeah.
The sayings, just like you, my brothers, we can all just, if something happens, we'll all three, like, on cue, just throw out a Lawrence, a Lawrence saying, like, you know, the best job you can possibly do is not too good for me.
And we're going to do this, and there's three ways to do it, the right way, the wrong way, and my way.
And we're going to do it my way.
And I mean, it's just stuff like that.
And as you can imagine, there was a lot of friction.
between me, well, between all of us.
So my oldest brother, he was the most,
um, he was the most, I'd say he tried the hardest to fit in the mold because he was the
oldest son.
And he did not, he did whatever dad told him to do.
And he kind of took it to heart to like get his approval.
And he tried to do everything like, the Lawrence way.
The Lawrence Way.
And they were a little closer, you know, in age.
So I think they could relate a little bit better.
And then my middle brother, my middle brother would be the complete opposite in the fact that he should not have ever been doing anything on a farm.
He just didn't.
Yeah.
He doesn't like, I mean, that's just not him.
He should be a painter or a poet or a songwriter.
I mean, he's artistic.
We always joke with him that if he was.
if he was my age now, he could be the biggest TikTok YouTube star there is, because he is
hilarious. He's creative. He's funny. He's just creative dude. He makes me look shy.
Yeah, but he, yeah, farming, not him, but become the next TikTok YouTube star, I think he would
have nailed that if he was in my generation for sure. No doubt about it. Keep going.
And then when I came along, I had the benefit of watching both of those guys grow up.
and I realized pretty young that the Trent, my brother Trent was the middle brother.
And the Trent program didn't work very well because my dad would just steamroll him.
And so I kind of got the idea that I was just going to be the one to dig my heels in and
butheads and.
Yell back at him.
Yeah, just yell back.
And so that's what I did.
And you're the last one standing.
Yeah.
So it must have done something.
It must have worked.
It's like water over rock.
So we went from, from the time I was probably 12 years old, my dad would wake me up at 5.30 in the morning when he got up.
And I would come to the hog building.
And it was my job to feed the sows seven days a week.
I never had a curfew.
But I got up every day to do that.
and um didn't matter how hungover you or you were it you were there it didn't matter and you learned pretty
fast that if you were going to do anything like that you did it early and you didn't you didn't do it really
late because you were going to pay for it um which pretty pretty smart in hindsight pretty smart on
his part i should have done that with soyer more than what i did but um we we hated each other
i mean i can't say that he hated me but i hated him i mean we we had some
we had a lot of bad, a lot of bad battles.
But, you know.
It's kind of part of farming, though.
It is.
Sometimes it's better than others.
I mean, I think you and I have a really good relationship in the farm.
We yell at each other and get at each other.
But at the end of the day, it's not like we make up, but it's just like, it's a, we don't, we don't have to say sorry.
It's just kind of like, we're able to let things go.
Yeah.
Like when we leave the hog barn, we just know it's.
that was work and that's it just like barn talk what happens in the hog barn stays in the
hog barn exactly um kind of because we show up to you guys board a little bit anyway when it was all
said and done you know i i ended up staying here my brothers ended up both leaving and they've been
successful in their own right in what they're doing but they the ag didn't the farm and didn't
interest them and um so i stuck around and well you you had a good relationship with you
your dad though don't yeah you all don't get it twisted no we it in the beginning it was a little
it was like every teenager it was hard but i i grew he grew and i grew and we he was yeah i mean
he was my best friend um really uh all the way to the end and that's a that's a great you know i was
just lucky to have him as long as i did because he was 99 um so he let's see he died in 18
So that's been three years ago.
And anyway, that is the long and the short of this will do.
I don't know.
Is there anything else we need to?
Well, there's a lot that, I mean, we didn't go all the way back.
So like our ancestors who founded the farm and all that stuff, which we can get into that later on.
But, yeah, that's pretty much the basic of.
Sawyer is the sixth generation.
So this dirt goes back a long ways.
And there's a great story about how.
it became what it became.
All of those that came before.
So we'll get into that.
