BEING HER with Margarita Nazarenko - 153: Stop Acting Like The Man In Your Relationship
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Hello, my sexy, lovely, gorgeous darling.
Welcome back to the Being Her podcast, and this is interesting.
This is very, very interesting.
I had a conversation, and I've been in the New York Post and several other news outlets.
For something that's happened recently, and I wanted to discuss it with you,
and then have a really cool teaching moment because it's come to my attention and realization
that when you swap poll.
polarities in your life, aka or i.e., you become masculine in your relationship,
feminine at work. Sparks fly and the bad ones. The catastrophic crash sparks fly,
not the quintessential lovely sparks of attraction. How this all started is I started a series on
my Instagram and on my TikTok. So if you're there, search my name, Marguerite Nazarenko,
and you will see the series. It's called the ROI of. I was falling asleep.
at nights, peacefully closing my eyes before February 14th, and I thought, how to explain to men,
not that I would ever do the explaining, because that came up in my DMs, it came up with,
but why would you ever explain to a man your worth? You wouldn't, because you are an unbothered woman.
You're not bothered about explaining your worth. Never complain, never explain,
those are quintessential truths, but I can explain for you because I'm not your man's woman.
So I can create content for you to enjoy and have a little he-he about, and I can explain.
it for you, right? So I was lying there, I was falling asleep and I was thinking, how do I explain
to said man, David over there in the corner, why flowers are important on Valentine's Day, or just
generally? And it dawned to me that men understand ROI, return on investment. And every time you
pass as the said flowers, you pass the said flowers after he's gifted them to you, the glimmer of
those flowers reminds you of what a good guy he is. What a good guy he is. What a good guy? It happens to me.
I've been married 11 years.
What a good guy he is.
What a guy.
Stupid flowers for $22.
He's bought me because I saw similar ones in the restaurant.
He saw them pick them up for me.
What a good guy.
What a good guy.
Our relationship's better for seven days.
So for those $40 to $80 that you would have spent on those flowers, dear gentleman,
she is getting multiple impressions of her day, what a good guy, what a good guy.
Anyway, that one made it into the New York Post because I go into several other reasons.
Go on to my Instagram or TikTok if you want to have a little quick look-see.
I made it into a series like, what is the reason?
should book a date. What is the reason he should propose earlier rather than later if he's
going to marry her, which the ROI is and plus sides are huge, right, in terms of relationships?
And one of the last ones was why he should take initiative and plan dates. It's a big
contention for married women, women in a relationship. It's a big bloody deal, mother truckers.
In it, I said the ROI is that she feels this, she feels that, your relationship's smoother.
Again, you can check it out. And a woman wrote to me this fascinating thing.
and I'm going to have to pull out my phone for this because I need to say the messages as they
came and not as I'm imagining them. So if you're watching this, excuse me looking down, girl,
but I've got to read them verbatim. Essentially, she sent my video to said gentlemen and she said,
this is the reasons why I think men should plan dates and take initiative. And his reply was as
follows, and I'm going to read it to you, and I'm going to talk to you about the conversation
that followed and a big realization I had that I think is going to be quite,
quite a big moment for us in this here being her universe.
Because I never realized that this is a problem that women have.
And when I realized it, it blew my mind wide open.
Okay.
So she wrote to me that he wrote,
Cool.
Thanks for the video.
Out of curiosity, do females,
curious word, curious word, but we move.
Make plans too and likewise.
Guys also have numerous things going on through their minds and are busy also.
I'm happy to do it for you, of course.
but how am I supposed to feel loved and appreciated if I'm the only one doing it?
Take that away.
I'm useless and disposable and replaceable if I do nothing for you.
Duh, you don't say.
Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, that's an offside.
And she says, sorry you've a misunderstood me, I really apologize.
He goes on, again, let me hold that for you.
If you're watching, his messages are, I'm shortening them as I'm reading them.
But just so you know, he says, that's how it feels when these reels are mage to say that
men need to do this, that and the other, and your partner needs to do nothing in return.
Hi, welcome to the world of femininity and masculinity.
Not saying that you need to do anything, but I'm just saying that it makes me feel bad.
He goes on for many, many, many paragraphs to say how it makes him feel like it's an outcome,
like it's admin, like he's not loved for who he is, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I sat there and I thought, this is a moment I need to really, I asked her, can I post these
and can I address it to the being her un bothered women, right?
And she said, sure.
So I wrote, she asked, can you change someone like that in wanting to be a leader and be in their masculine?
And I really needed to take a few several seats and take a step back because I can't say something toxic like he's obviously in his feminine energy and you're in your masculine.
Because how that's going to be right online is he's a chick and you're a dude.
And that is not what feminine energy and masculine energy means.
but it is clear in the way she's straightway apologises,
the way she's leading him, the way she's sending him the message,
she's like, this is how it should be, he's like,
and the way he's writing a long thing, explaining his feelings,
explaining all of this, and it dawned on me, first of all,
this is one breakthrough I had.
In saying that if you want to date a masculine man,
you need to be in your feminine, I am saying I, and the majority of women,
who I have spoken to, and that is many, many hundreds and thousands,
prefer to be in their feminine energy when dating and therefore they want to attract a masculine man
because they find masculinity attractive. Is that the case for another 20%? Let's say that 80%.
Is that the case for the other 20%? No, it's not. A man in his feminine energy is a brilliant
man. There are many, many highs about having a feminine energy man, which I'm going to go into,
right? We're going to break it all down. We're going to have a little chinwag, a little talk, right?
and I wrote to her and I wrote to my Instagram I said I love when men respond like this it's thoughtful
it's not defensive and it's honest although he was defensive in the way I communicated to you now
like he was like I don't feel this he was open in the end he was like thanks for sending me this but
I just feel used essentially when I do stuff for women and I said I want to say this carefully because
people love to twist these conversations some men genuinely do not enjoy leading right some men genuinely
do not enjoy leading. They prefer shared planning, shared decisions, shared admin. They feel safest
when everything is equal and discussed and mutual and agreed upon. And that's not wrong. That is
different energy, right? So if you get a man who's genuinely in his feminine energy and not because
he's wounded, not because he's got a mother wound, but genuinely in that, and you try and push him
into his masculinity, you are going to create a fight. Two feminine energy people create repulsion from
each other, and I don't mean disgust repulsion, but I just mean two poles of a magnet if you try and put
them together. I said, you cannot convince a man to suddenly enjoy taking charge if that's not where he
feels powerful. If a truly masculine man is in his feminine because he's got a mother wound or because
he doesn't feel that you want that, for you to request that he takes the lead is going to feel
great for him. He's going to love that. He's going to love to take the lead because he's going to feel
empowered and in his masculine, which is a big majority, right? And you're going to feel great to be led,
but that's not all women too.
Some women actually enjoy being in their masculine energy and that's fine.
And you can also, I said, not shame a woman for wanting to relax and be led by a man
because she also wants to be in her feminine energy.
Both of them do.
She's saying, hey, I want to be in my feminine energy.
And he's like, hey, I do as well.
This isn't about men being loved only if they provide something.
It's about polarity.
Masculine energy feels respected when it directs and feminine energy feels safe when it can soften and be led.
Right?
So what's happening?
two people, both feminine energy, what are we going to do?
First, let's remove judgment.
He isn't wrong.
He isn't bad.
He's not trying to attack us over here in our quest to attract masculine men.
He's communicating.
He's explaining how he feels valued.
He's expressing what matters to him.
Although I will say this as a caveat, right?
That not every time do men know what they're saying.
He's saying we should be equal all of this,
but then he's going to feel shit while being in that.
So you've got to watch for that.
If he's truly in his feminine,
energy, he'll feel lovely when you take him out and when you plan things. And then he equally does
that and you have this like cohesive relationship where you both do it. If he is wounded and you do it
and then he feels shit about it, there is a clue that he's only deploying feminine energy because
of a wound he's got and not because he's naturally in his feminine energy. Okay. Now let's observe something
neutrally, I say. Look at the length of these messages. Look at the processing. Look at the emotional
articulation the man has. That tells you something about his energetic style. I will save these.
is a highlight on my stories.
Some men feel comfortable in collaborative,
emotionally expressive dynamics in a relationship.
They don't naturally identify
with being in the direction,
the directional force of the relationship or the leader.
They were partnership and equality
and mutual decidedness,
which I would say,
you know, handcuff,
like not handcuffing myself to sound PC,
it's very, very hard if you're going to have children, right?
It's very, almost impossible.
But if you're just,
double income no kids couple, why not? And neither is inferior by the way, but it's a different
polarity. So the real question isn't can I change him to be a masculinely driven man? The real
question is, what role do I naturally enjoy and can I enjoy that role if I am with him?
If you are happy leading, dear one who wrote me this message, organizing and initiating and being
more structured in your relationship, then yes, it can absolutely work for you. If you're
secretly wanting to relax and let him lead and you're hoping he'll grow into that role by you
pushing him and initiating and prodding him you're using masculine energy to do that that's when
resentment starts because you cannot coach someone into enjoying an energy that does not feel right for
them and you also shouldn't shame a man for embodying an energy that you feel he should not have
it isn't about who's better it's about energetic preference trying to turn him into something
else is going to exhaust you trying to suppress what you want in yourself is going to exhaust you
It's about being honest with yourself.
Alignment between you two feels calm and natural.
And misalignment feels like constant resentment building inside of you.
So the answer isn't, is he masculine enough, good enough, feminine enough, whatever.
It's do our energies complement each other?
Do our energies complement each other?
And that is that.
It dawned on me that a lot of times in these conversations,
it can become really misconstrued and misunderstood
because we are trying to drive a man who is not naturally in his masculine
and doesn't enjoy it to be in his masculine.
A dear reader, message me afterwards, and she said, how can we tell if a man is in his masculine energy and not any initial dating tips, okay?
Off the back of that story, we had a really interesting conversation.
And the ways to tell is simple.
First, masculine energy is not aggressive.
It's not like punch you in your head.
It's not forceful.
It's not all of those things.
A masculine energy is comfortable initiating, likes to be thanked for what he's doing, not what he's being, and that is the crux.
Feminine energy likes to be thanked and loved for what it's being.
It's a very rare occasion when a woman, a feminine energy woman,
which is a lot of women, most women, feel comfortable there, naturally.
Yes, we're all driven to be masculine, especially at work, but we'll get to that one.
So we are all in that energy in a feminine.
We don't like a man to say, oh yeah, I didn't like you initially, but you won me over
because you work so much and you're such a good provider.
We don't like that, yeah?
They like that, but we don't like that.
That's how you can tell.
A masculine man likes to decide, he likes to move things forward, he knows what he wants and what he's doing.
A second sign is he's emotionally regulated, he doesn't spiral, doesn't overthink things, he processes, communicates it clearly, but there's a downside to it which he'll go into.
And that is he can sometimes go in his cave and you don't know where he's gone and that's a problem for you.
But that's not a problem for him.
That's a masculine energy man.
And many of them don't know how to express themselves verbally.
And you say, oh, he doesn't tell me he loves me enough, but then you want a masculine energy man.
Again, choose which toilet you want to sit on Rebecca.
Number three sign that he's a masculine energy man naturally is he protects peace.
Not in a caveman way, but in a more like, I've got this way.
Like, I've got us, I've got this, I've got a plan.
You don't feel like you're managing someone else or someone else's child or son,
and you don't feel like his therapist or a project manager.
You often feel that even if he's making wrong decisions, or he could be wild,
he could be like a bad boy type person, but he's still taking the lead
and he's still somehow making plans and you feel quite comfortable in that.
Not that you should be following a bad boy, but I'm just saying that.
That's his natural energy, yeah?
And most women like that, because it allows them to soften and be in their feminine energy,
which feels good.
Remember, in the universe, everything has a polar opposite, a good thing, and a bad thing
attached to the same thing.
So a masculine energy man, good pointer, he's a natural leader, he feels steady emotionally,
and he projects direction and feels comfortable going that way.
But the minuses is he may struggle with vulnerability, saying how he feels, voicing all of that,
because he identifies strength in silence.
He can become rigid.
He cannot compromise.
He doesn't understand your point of view.
And this is the last one of women find very difficult if they want a masculine energy man.
They really, really, really, really don't want to do this.
But masculine energy men want admiration, not love, but admiration.
When he leads, he wants to be appreciated for it almost like, wow, you're so amazing.
Otherwise resentment builds.
And if he cannot play that game wisely, then you are not going to win with a masculine energy
man if you start competing with him like yeah i can do that to what derrick i don't care that's not gonna that's
not gonna win you pluses okay let's go on to the pluses of like our first characters that we met let's call him
david a feminine energy man which actually would be good for a lot of you yeah he's emotionally expressive
he communicates his feelings he says exactly i cannot imagine my husband would write me all those messages
expressing how it makes him feel when i sent him an instagram video it would not happen even if i said
write messages like that would die, he would have to, I don't know, like, he, I don't know what he would do.
He would just, like, disintegrate.
You will never be guessing what a feminine energy man is feeling. And often, like, you're thinking
of a feminine energy man, like maybe some kind of, like he's wearing a dress or something. He's not.
A lot of, like, rock stars and poets and people like that are feminine energy, like David Bowie types,
and that's fantastic and amazing and quite sexy. Number two is he values equality, he prefers
shared decisions, shared roles, collaborative dynamics. And often these men, despite you,
maybe giving birth to the children, they will step up and they will help you because they see
your value in the same as theirs and they will step up. He's often nurturing. He's attentive to
your emotions and he is there for you, which is super rare. And if you get one of these men and you're
comfortable leading and driving and doesn't make you a dude, it's actually an amazing relationship.
Sometimes that spicy firewoman who knows what she's doing and a man who knows his feelings is an
amazing combination. The minuses of a feminine energy man, you may end up leading everything and you may
end up feeling does he even want this or not? Have I just like captured him like a like a you know
copilot? Polarity can feel flat if you're also naturally feminine energy or you expect that if both of
you are trying to both be feminine and are waiting for someone to lead you might end up going nowhere and I
don't mean in life I mean in your dynamic of sexuality and polarity. He will seek reassurance more often
so the masculine energy man wants like admiration and like wow you're a god kind of vibes this one
wants reassurance because he bonds through emotional exchange and he wants to know that you're always
there and you're always present. None of these are good or bad. This is more of what do I enjoy
doing more. Okay. And it's important to understand. I was writing all this as I was walking to a
podcast studio. I did a podcast about my business. I loved doing that. It's going to come out soon. I think it's
on the Jess Wilkinson podcast. It's going to come out soon. Williamson. Wow. Look at me forgetting names.
I'll put it in the show notes when I do them. Somebody asked me, what about situations in which a man
is growing personally and living healthily? And then when he's in a bad mood or something bad happens
and he's usually masculine, he goes in his feminine. And I say, wow, I love this question. Why?
Because me, I thrive in a feminine energy space when I'm in my relationship. It makes me feel sexy,
happy, vibrant, attractive, vivacious, all of those good things. And when I'm in a masculine energy,
in a relationship, I feel like shit.
Like, I don't feel attractive.
I don't feel a vibe.
I don't feel any of that.
But at work, I love being in a masculine energy.
And I realize that under stress, I go in my masculine energy naturally.
And that's what I've had to battle with my anxious attachment
and all those things I used to have.
And I've decided that to let go in my relationships is what gives me relief and what gives me
joy and what makes me feel amazing.
When I'm in my masculine and driving and I'm under stress, I get like that in my
relationships and it really makes me feel like garbage. Like when I'm trying to tell my man what to do
or how to act or how to behave, it looks ugly. I start being resentful. I start, you know,
micromanaging him. I start mothering him. I start martyering myself. I start being directional.
Even when no one's asking me for direction, it's just yuck, you know. And so I wrote, I love this
question because it shows you've actually thinking about energy dynamics, not being fixed,
but being something that you express. Energy isn't permanently a personality trait. It's a
default setting at the time. For example, I naturally thrive in my feminine energy. I prefer my
relationships flow over force. It makes me feel seen and like I'm actually chosen. And I go very
masculine and very structured and very decisive and solution focused when I am stressed. And I
deploy that on my relationship. The key is not what someone does under stress. The key is what
they return to when things stabilize. So if you have a man who's naturally masculine and he starts to, you know,
wine and want reassurance and just be like indecisive and run around all the stuff under stress,
then maybe there is a mother wound there. Maybe there is moments where he resourced to that
when he was younger or a child and that is fine. We all go to places when we are stressed.
I also broke down the upsides of being a feminine energy woman. You're receptive, you soften tension,
you can often laugh things off. She's that classic woman in the 1950s movie like May West when he's
like, hey, says something like to her. And she's like, huh, how about you, sugar? You're this and that.
You know, there's a classy woman who are like amazing at just blowing things off because she's
just so in her feminine and so fabulous. And she inspires pursuits because she isn't constantly
directing or managing. She creates space for someone to actually pursue her and chase her,
which is really important. When I talk about a man chasing you, it's not because I think
the element of chase is even that interesting, but because you are giving space, you always feel
someone coming towards you and that is a very enticing energetic feeling when you're a feminine energy
woman. She leads through intuition and presence and she's the neck and the man's the head.
She directs where he goes, but not through obvious things. The downsides of a feminine energy woman
are, of course, she can avoid structure if unbalanced. She may over-rely on external direction
from him after a while. You know those memes where she's walking through the airport like do-do-do-do-do-do,
and he's the one who's like doing everything. She becomes passive instead of receptive and she may
struggle in a highly competitive work environment, which we're going to move on to in a minute.
Masculine energy, dominant women, the upsides is she's decisive, she's self-led. This is the type of
friend we like to have. She's resilient. She sets boundaries. Clearly, she's a badass. She's a badass.
I naturally identify with that. That's why I think she's a badass, right? But in my relationships,
permanent energy is God, is goddess. Downsize is she can overfunction in relationships. She takes
that work feeling into her relationship feeling and she's always leading, organizing, initiating.
She's always, she unintentionally emasculates him and that's not necessarily your role to make someone
feel masculine. But if you want flow in your life and if you want it to be seamless and easy,
then it's something that you need to really consider because it's your life at the end of the day
and I'm just telling you how to have it optimized. Next is she may struggle to receive things.
So it becomes like a competition with her. She will instead of being thankful,
for something that he does so that he does it so that he does it again she will instead try and make it a
competition in terms of she wants to do the same so she doesn't inspire for him to do the same thing again and
again and again she can control instead of influence which is an interesting one because strong
direction can turn into micromanagement if she doesn't soften internally and doesn't you know
have that kind of feeling between him she can start to control the situation which is so diabolically toxic
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But that one talks about control and all these things a lot.
And also, the attraction can flatten if she isn't a masculine energy and he is a masculine energy man.
and they're both trying to drive the outcome,
the, again, the polarity can flatten.
Remember what we talked about,
the feminine energy woman and man?
Their polarity can flatten,
the same way the polarity can flatten
between a masculine and a masculine.
I think it's worth saying,
I wrote in relationships,
I like being in my feminine energy,
and this was like an honest moment I had here,
okay? I'll read it too
because I think it's worth landing the plane on.
In relationships, I like being in my feminine energy,
not because I can't lead,
not because I'm incapable,
but because it actually works better for me in relationships.
And I believe it does for many women too, hence everything that I do.
When I'm in my feminine in relationships, I receive more things, I feel less tense,
I'm not constantly analyzing or steering the ship.
I can be open to actually loving and enjoying that person.
And honestly, it doesn't mean I waste my time managing him.
And this is the biggest realization that blew my mind open.
I was on this podcast talking to her about work.
And I realized when I got successful my career was when I was forced to go into my feminine
energy due to having kids and having to soften with that and I stopped managing him because I started
managing my children so the energy went from him to them and then because I stopped managing him and because
I started to cure my anxious attachment and all the things I talk about in the book and on my three
day intensive and all the courses if you don't know them I'll leave them in the link below I started doing
all that and deploying all of that I stopped focusing my masculine energy my driving energy on him and
actually focused it on work and that is when my work exploded okay and honestly i wrote it doesn't mean
i waste my time managing him who has time for that i don't i don't micromanage the dynamic i'm not the
project manager of my own marriage in my life and my business and work i'm very much in my masculine
driving energy now i love direction i love decisiveness i love building the business i love building the
company and the structure based in a feminine energy flow i do it in a feminine energy way
again if you want those videos i'll leave them in the links below they're called feminine energy business
models, right? So, and I think women often get this flipped, and this is the point of this whole
video that is very, very interesting. They go into their masculine energy and relationships because
they're scared to not control and they manage him, they correct him, they over functioned,
they martyr themselves, they carry emotional load and logistics over the whole relationship,
hoping to make sure that it's good because they're worried about it failing. And that is the actual
reason that it fails. And in their business and in their goals, they soften into their feminine
energy because they're scared to be pushy, they're scared to ask for money, they're scared of things,
they hesitate, they wait, they second guess, they avoid being assertive, right?
It's actually backwards because in business, if you're like that, you're not going to get
anything, you're going to get shet all, darling. And in a relationship, if you're in your masculine
energy and constantly driving, seeing as if you've got a masculine energy man, it's going to
backfire. If you want polarity in love, you usually need to soften there, if he's masculine.
If you want success in life, you need to access your masculine energy there so you can drive the
business. It's not about suppressing one or the other. It's about placing them wisely and knowing
where to drive from. And that, my friends, is on feminine energy and masculine energy in business.
If you have any questions, leave them in the box below. And I'll see you on March 3rd on my
free live call. I'll be doing a whole presentation about seven steps from Trigger to Unbothered.
It's totally free if you just register. I'll see you there. I'll be answering questions live too.
And love you lots like Jett. Bye.
Thank you.
