Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata - Best Friends Presents: Best Friends with Jacob Wysocki

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

This week we are releasing an episode from behind the paywall. Best Friends Presents: Best Friends Friends! This episode, best friends Nicole and Sasheer bring on their friend Jacob Wysocki. They talk all sorts of zoom activities like drinking games, holding office hours to see friends and family, and even karaoke! Then they respond to questions on what to do when you feel like you're too busy but friends still hang out without you, when you feel like you're in a one sided friendship, and when your friend makes a twitter account to use as a public journal.  Email or call Nicole & Sasheer with your friendship questions at:[e-mail]424-645-7003 Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link https://siriusxm.com/friends and code FRIENDS.

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listen on the show. Hey, everyone. This week, we are releasing another great episode of Best Friends Friends. This time, it's our good friend, Jacob Wysocki. I love Jacob so much. I worked with him for two years on Lucy, Exactly Nicole, which is a show on MTV that eight people watch, but we did get two seasons. Honestly, I'm pretty proud of it, and it still holds up. He's still one of the funniest people I know. So have a long listen.

We'll be back very soon with classic Best Friends episodes. But in the meantime meantime enjoy our conversation with jacob this is an episode of best friends friends yeah where we talk to our friends. Yes. In addition to talking to each other like we do all the time. We decided to add a third

like most couples do when it's getting stale. Our guest today, you know him from Unfriended, Loosely Exactly Nicole, Huge on ABC Family. It's Jacob Wysocki! Hi.

Hello. Hello. You picked the true cream of the crop of the old IMDb credits there, huh? Well, Unfriended is a, wasn't that a whole movie shot on Zoom? It was, at the time skype was the superior but yeah so you were ahead of the time so absolutely i'm a trendsetter i knew i knew the trends we were saying how someone will probably make a movie on zoom it's only a matter of time it's only a matter of time the people the way in which people are

getting creative is good and really bad. Yes. I agree. A lot of people are doing some cool stuff that is very funny. And I'm like, wow, just give them some time. And they're doing cool stuff. And people are doing really bad things. Yeah, you're like, oh, you just needed four to five extra hours every day to like focus and be creative and then other

times you're like you need a hobby you need to fill those four to five hours i have not been creative i have truly not done a thing uh i've just been not smoking a lot of weed but i've got this like weed oil that i've just been putting under my tongue and having the time of my life at night there's such a long delay your screen was frozen for a while i couldn't even see you moving and it was so slow i was like is she high right now what's happening no not high right now yeah that's brave of you to be honest kind of yeah are you high right now jacob oisaki oh yeah i mean it's three o'clock on a wednesday like i've done all i've i've done all i need to do i also woke up with a very very tight

uh lower left back and i you know i did some stretches and i took some advil and some uh ibuprofen and i'm you know wasn't really feeling any relief so i i had to i had to get into it for the medicine yes for the medicinal purposes this was this was a medicinal high i i'm not i'm not tripping i'm not i'm not grooving to tunes i'm purely just using it for my body i'm just i'm just therapeutizing myself not grooving to tunes i have mushrooms in my home take them and yeah well my man and i were like oh one of these days we should but I don't know if if we're gonna go somewhere or if we're gonna sit in our living room like I don't I want to go somewhere but I also don't want to break the rules I don't want to break the rules there's also like no there

aren't a ton of public park spaces that we can be in where I want to feel safe. We're near Echo Lake, but I don't want to be tripping there. It's dirty. It's a dirty place. Honestly, I say just trip in your living room. I did that a couple nights ago, and I had a great

time. My trees were talking to me. They were trying to hug me, and I kept laughing, being like, you can't hug me. You're a tree. I stared at my wallpaper for a little bit. Yes. No, this is me sober. I was like, trees don't hug.

No, I took some shrooms and had a great time. Well, I was just like, what is this weed oil? Where can I get this weed oil? Oh, no, no, this is shrooms. Yeah, I think if you want to do it, you kind of have to prepare that it's got to be an inside trip. Maybe... Oh, I'm so sorry.

How embarrassing. That's your ringtone? I think you got to anticipate... Yeah. I don't care about that stuff. It's a true ring. Yeah, that's wild. Can we drop it?

Sashir, what's your ringtone? What's the problem leave me alone wait so sure what's your ringtone oh i guess the ring on my phone is a phone ring like a ring but yeah but my text is from the jungle it's like uh i was gonna say like a growl no it's like a like jungle drums or something like that i can't remember what it's called no i know what it is hold on let me find it please wait is it called drums maybe i can't remember exactly pull it up let's hit the archive i'm trying i'm trying i don't know if i can pull up on my phone while i'm recording probably not i don't want to jinx it well look at it and tell me what it's called and i'll play it this is the content people here's my ringtone

they want to be they want to be at home They want to be at home. A tornado sound? What? It doesn't sound great on Zoom. Oh, it doesn't? Oh, dang. It's shared.

I don't know about this one, Nicole. You don't like share? And then my text message tone is a live in la vida loca okay what did i miss i was gone for 10 full minutes restarting my fucking modem modem um we're talking about birthdays and how how they might have to be inside because all we're doing is inside you know mine's coming up i know because it's sequential it's the the number of the month the day is your birthday that comes right after the number of the month and that's how i remember yeah what wait what you can say it oh you want you want the people to know your birthday it's may 6th 5 6 yes yes oh it's sequential i see i sequential. When's your birthday? I see.

Yes. When's your birthday? June 20th. June 20th. That's not sequential. That's one number and then a whole gap of numbers to get to 20. Just about 14, if I'm not mistaken. Yes. People are tapping in her head.

Fully taking the time to count. I definitely was. I did. I took the time. You are correct. That is good math. 14. I had a buddy.

My buddy had his birthday over quarantine, and he just did a 12-hour Zoom call. No. He just did a like a 12 hour Zoom call. And like had. No. Like had certain things like like this at this time we're doing this and this time we're doing this. But was just kind of like bop in, bop out, say hey, leave. And it was like his. That was the vibe.

I guess that's good. Rather than like a whole bunch of people all together. I don't know. Uh, who knows anymore? Yeah. I think it should be like office hours where you're like from, you know,

five to five 30. I'll talk to my college friends from five 30 to six. I'll talk to my comedy friends or whatever. You know, talk to my family from 6 to 7. Just so it's not like a cacophony of people. Or just a bunch of people on mute. Who are like, I don't know how to jump in there.

Because I don't know these people. But you know. People are figuring it out. Yeah. It's like everybody's at an improv jam. For the first time. Are you guys going to have Zoom birthdays if we're still under quarantine in May and in June? I don't think so.

I'll probably, like, I've been hosting Zoom karaoke every Friday. Is this true? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Please, you guys should come. It's really cool yeah you like have zoom and then there's like a thing on you have another browser that links up youtube uh tracks so you can all hear the music at the same time how did you figure that out i

just googled like can i do karaoke over zoom? And somebody was, like, in a Reddit thread was, like, I've been having the best time doing remote karaoke. And I just stole it. And now I do it every week. And is it, like, everyone sings at the same time? Or is everyone on mute and one person is singing and everyone's, like, jamming out to it? Exactly. It's everybody's on mute. If you're not singing you're muted

and then they sing and i've created like a log in the chat where it's like each number means something and so people like spam the chat where it's like one is for support and like like because you can't clap or anything so it's like one is like how you clap and like eight you know eights or take a shot and like nines if somebody is playing like with a real instrument like we've orchestrated this like weird like language within it that lets you feel like you're participating and then when people aren't singing people are like chatting and stuff that's cool and i and i just am a dj i just play a dj man with a fake mustache that's nice you put on a fake mustache yeah it's

something to do it's a whole character it's a whole character that i'm doing he's beaming from space his name is large jake he's in a spaceship he's trying to get away from covid like so he's this makes so much sense i love it uh but like why does he keep coming back if he's trying to avoid corona he's beaming his his his himself from space he's in his spaceship oh oh okay i thought he was like coming i don't want to talk about like i don't want to talk about this i like don't want to have i like don't want to like have to like do a character beat sheet on like a guy i do for fun it's not i'm not it's not mod i'm not like you're not you're not you're not you're not i feel like i'm trying to like John Flynn, like why a character?

I'm sorry. I was just trying to understand your character's motivation. I promise. I promise. You put me in the wig and you put me in front of the audience. The last who cares? I'm funny. All right.

You're right. You are are you're very funny i want to come to karaoke we're doing it friday 8 30 i'll send you guys all the info yeah please all right what a treat something to look forward to that's what it is for me it's just like i have this thing that i do and it feels normal yeah Yeah. But I imagine I'll do something like that for my birthday if I have to be here. Something easy and short. Mm-hmm. Well, I hope to not be in

quarantine for my birthday because my birthday is all the way in August. Yeah, it'll be a long time for all of us to be in. Yeah. It's April now. It could happen happen i think we need to mentally prepare for it i think it's like best for everybody's mental health to just go worst case scenario and be pleasantly surprised when it's like oh it's june 10th we're out baby yeah you know what we're here till till November did you say you know what I did

and then Nicole yeah it's just there's this delay it's really hard I said you know what and then and then I stopped talking because I was like they're not gonna hear me say you know what for a while and and then i forgot what i was trying to say because i started thinking too hard should we maybe answer some questions yeah let's do that since the conversation is fucking impossible on zoom all right jacob we have people call in or email friendship questions. Great. So we'll just, like, go through a few and answer to the best of our ability.

Sounds awesome. Yeah. Hello. So I have this friend, and we've known each other for about eight years. We've been really good friends, and we have known each other for about eight years we've been really good friends and we have some really similar interests like she's very spiritual uh she she's an amazing person and uh we both share an interest in travel um we went to montreal a couple years ago we were only there for three days and we we ended up getting into this, like, really crazy

fight. Actually, a number of them. And anyway, when we got back, we didn't end up speaking for two months. And I just feel like, yeah, it kind of, like, put a block in our friendship a little bit. But anyway, we ended up reconnecting and becoming friends again. And, like, I really love her. She's, like, an amazing person. But now we are planning a trip to Mexico where we're going to backpack and stay in hospitals and stuff like that. And we're going to be gone for two months, which is a lot longer than three days. two months, which is a lot longer than three days. So I just am fearful, I guess, of this,

I don't know, arguments and stuff like that. We both have very different fighting styles or arguing styles. She's a lot more confrontational and kind of, like, attacks my personality when we fight, whereas I'm more like, let's just discuss the issue. But yeah, so I don't know how we're going to fare for two months in Mexico just being alone with each other, but I guess I just kind of wanted some advice on how to maybe set boundaries or, I don't know, kind of a healthy way to have communication between the two of us so that when we need space, we can communicate that to the other person and get the space that we need while we're on the trip, but also still be a team and, like, work together

and make sure that we survive two months together in Mexico. But, yeah, I hope our friendship lasts after this because, I mean, yeah, three days in Montreal equals a few months of no contact between the two of us. And yeah, I'm just like a little worried. Anyway, love the podcast. You guys are awesome. Thanks. Bye.

Oh, boy. Okay. Okay. Can I, I want to just clarify some, like, we're not being, we're like actually trying to help. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yes, actually.

I mean, okay, but you not trying to help, what would you say? If I'm not being helpful, if I'm like not actually answering his question, but taking in the data, data i'm like i don't know if you guys are friends just like based on the just like based on the linguistics of the conversation where he's like we have a lot in common one thing she's amazing and we travel uh it's just not very i don't know's not very like explicit not very passionate just sort of like i know this person and this person's uh like we have different argument styles like i don't know all that stuff just makes me feel like what's the actual connection here and well maybe they're not that close maybe they are friends and they're trying to be closer and this new travel venture for them might be rough um but also traveling's hard in general with people with a family member with your best friend

with your loved one like your significant other like people just have different traveling styles in general and may not necessarily be the same person that you see day to day at home in a different country so that's going to be rough regardless uh kudos for trying to travel again after having a rough time in montreal for two days i don't know if i would have jumped to two months but you know who knows could be good could be bad don't know if I would have jumped to two months, but, you know, who knows? Could be good. Could be bad. Don't know. But at least you're aware of it.

And I definitely think communication would help. Just like maybe even talking before you leave. Like, hey, just so we don't run into what happened in Montreal. Because I wonder if they even talked about what happened in Montreal. If they did, hopefully. happened in montreal because i wonder if they even talked about what happened in montreal if they did hopefully uh you know if they're both aware like we didn't have a good time in montreal hopefully you could be comfortable enough to bring it up and be like look i don't want another one of these can we talk about what happened and see like what we can do for the next two months to not run into a situation where we're not talking to each other

or being passive aggressive or arguing over little things when we're just trying to have fun i think it could be helpful i'm with jacob i don't know if they're friends uh because what was it two three days that's nothing i can't spend two three days with someone i don't really like and be fine you spent two three days together and you got into like an explosive argument where you didn't talk for two months yeah why would you want to be with that person for two months or whatever like that's crazy you didn't talk for the duration of time that you want to spend together backpacking? Backpacking is even harder. That's like walking

with shit on your back. And you don't want two types of baggage. Ho, ho, ho, ho. Wow. Can I just say that the delay really made the delivery of that joke sad? Oh, I'm sorry.

I was like, we liked it. I will have to say if we are wrong if nicole and i are wrong so she hit it on the head where it's like you just have to do that dirty work of being like okay how do we make it good and it's an it's always awkward to open yourself up like that but once you do it the the runway is there yeah because even if they aren't actually good friends they are still going on this trip tickets it sounds like tickets are bought they are going so they do have to talk at some point about how to make this uh comfortable for both of them do you think they started the trip and then corona came are they gonna have to spend more than two months together yeah are they still in mexico oh no yeah we don't

know when we got this voicemail yeah i want more information i want to know what the fight was about and i want to know when this trip was going to happen. Yeah. Or hopefully the trip hasn't happened yet and they can cancel it and this person who called in can maybe find a friend that they like to go on a different future trip with. Yeah, I definitely wouldn't take the two-day trip in Montreal as evidence that we can definitely do two months together.

Yeah, that's crazy. Bad odds odds let's do another another question hi nicole and sashir i'm this person uh 22 and i live in rio de janeiro brazil oh international okay so i have two female this is important trust me best friends we know each other for 16 years and we were always very united we love each other so much and i know i can trust them i've always been the type of person who likes to study and i consider myself a little smart. I always, I'm always the first one in a group to get into university and I'm almost finished with my computer science degree. And here's the thing, some months ago, I started feeling a lot like the third wheel in this relationship. My two best friends started hanging out a lot without me. And I know why. I'm a very busy person. I go to uni full time. I have an internship in a lab. I'm in the university's robotics team. I organize technological events and stuff. Very busy. And I'm not mad that they hang out without me. Actually, I feel the opposite. I like it because

I know I don't have much free time and I want them to have a good time. I didn't mean to rhyme. Okay. Time with time. But about a month ago, they started basically living together. We live in the same neighborhood, but quite far away. Neighborhoods in Brazil are different than the US.S. And I started feeling like an outsider. We don't hang out anymore. We barely talk. We never see each other anymore. And I hate it because I love them so much. And I don't want to feel like an outsider with them as I feel with my mom and sister.

See, that's why it was important to say that they're females. How to avoid that feeling, even though it is your own fault because you don't have the time you wish you could give them. Thanks a lot. Can you read that, Nicole? You are my voices. Great podcast, girls. Okay, thanks. Okay, so basically this person's very busy at school their two friends started

hanging out without them and they feel bad but not really because they want them to be happy yeah and i think maybe too much time has passed where they're hanging out without them and now it's starting to hurt their feelings. Hmm. I think you gotta talk. You gotta just, like, text and, like, be like, once a week, we hang out. If that's, like, every Thursday, we go do something, that's what we do. Mm-hmm.

I think you just have to, like, set a rule. Like, not set a rule, but be like, I would love to see you guys, like, once a week. Can we please, like, do cocktails on Thursday? Yeah. And you gotta talk to them. Yeah. Cause they don't know your schedule. You know, your schedule, you know, like every Saturday I'm free. And so make plans with them and hopefully they will, they will live up to that.

But I said Thursday, was there something wrong with Thursday? Cause you changed it to Saturday. I said Thursday. Was there something wrong with Thursday? Because you changed it to Saturday. Well, sometimes Thursday is a school night. So maybe they have classes on Friday, you know? Okay, fair. Jacob, what do you think? I think if he sets up like a time,

it'll make them feel important and wanted. And maybe that's, what's creating the distances. They're just, you know, if somebody is not reaching out, then I think a lot of people assume that they don't need it, even though people do. I know I can sometimes be like that person. That's like, I'm not going to reach out. And if it comes to me, I'll be super happy, but I don't want to see him.

I don't want to see me or something. So maybe that's why they're not doing it. I also think there's a version of this where it's just like, you know, they say like you switch friend groups every seven years. Maybe you're just like in a time in your life where you're separating yourself from people with different white likes and different dreams and different like,

uh, wants. And like, this is just a growing pain. i never heard that people switch friend groups every seven that's like some like you know kind of basic like psych 101 thing that i'm that i feel pretty confident is at least at one point was good data but yeah i think it's like like you end up kind of like circulating different friend groups every seven years um think yeah think about's like, like you end up kind of like circulating different friend groups every seven years. Interesting.

Yeah. Think about it like elementary school into middle school and then, you know, high school into college. Like those are probably two very definitive different friend groups in your mind. Yeah. And then college into your late thirties, you know? So Shira, are you going to get rid of me soon? Has it been seven years? It's past seven years.

Or past due. Typically that's like yeah it's not usually on an individual basis it's like yeah oh i mean oh no my god oh my god it came out bigger than i thought it would. It was very big and piercing. Sorry. Sorry about it. This is the best episode. Happy to be here for this one. But it just might be growing pains.

It could just be in like... he's in the best position because he's not like these two people seem like on an island together and he's in like a place that's bountiful with people who have similar interests and similar desires as his so you might just have to do that difficult work of making new friends and yeah make some university friends. Yeah Mm-hmm. Also they said Brought up that they're women these two friends are women and also they feel distant from their sister and mom as well Mm-hmm. Is that a thing or is that? Just like a reason this person's like oh maybe they because they're girls they don't

want to hang out with me yeah jacob are you close to your mom like when she's off from her job at hertz do you hang out with her i mean my mom are very close yeah i think we've been talking like almost every day in quarantine oh wow for the most part yeah so maybe it's a brazilian thing maybe uh i think it could just be like they recognize uh like a disproportionate relationship that's closer to them and this is sort of mimicking it and so they're trying to like they're trying to connect patterns they don't necessarily have to be connected but you know we want to create patterns in our like cognitively so it could just be like these two things are the same uh or you just like don't know how to be friends with women or didn't learn properly or i don't i don't know man i love that you've

become one with the couch as time has gone on my back hurts so bad and i couldn't oh no i couldn't sit upright anymore do you have a foam roller i do have a foam roller do you roll out your uh it band you mean like that hip zone like that sciatica zone is that the it band yeah from your knee to your butt on the side oh i don't i should i think that's what's happening you should roll that out and that will definitely help your lower back i promise you almost instantly and then i'll start hurting again you just have to like do it every day okay i'll try it after this. I promise. You have my... Ladies, you have my word.

I feel like you're lying to me. I feel like you're going to close your eyes as soon as we're done and go right to sleep. Cross my heart, hope to die what do you think? should we do one more question? yeah let's do one uno mas question

Jacob gave me the thumbs do one. Uno mas question. Jacob gave me the thumbs down on my accent or the question? Oh, you know. Yes. Uno mas question. Hi, Nicole. I'm Sashir. I

just want to say that I absolutely love the podcast. I've been listening this entire past two months, and it really gets me through my commutes and my days, and I just love you both. And, yeah, so with my question or, I don't know, dilemma, whatever, I have this really good friend. We met working at a store, and it was a few years ago. And we got really close, and he was married and then ended up cheating, going through divorce, and I was kind of there for him through all of it. And he's the kind of person that would always ask for my advice, but then never listen to it,

and then kind of come back to me with all the problems that kind of came with his bad decisions. And it came to the point where I was constantly giving him advice, but he never really seemed to be there for me. And then I left for the Peace Corps, and he didn't really seem to understand, you know, whenever I was feeling overwhelmed or just tired. And I really, and he kept kind of giving me his problems, but I still was, I couldn't handle it. And I would tell him that, and I would try to communicate with him that like, he's not listening to me, try to, you know, see if he could get better at being more receptive to maybe my life and what I was going through at the time. But he really didn't. And it kind of just started making me really angry to the point where I just stopped answering him.

I pretty much ghosted him, if you will. And I just, I'm not sure if, you know, that was really bitchy of me or if I was in the right to kind of just get this person, you know, out of my life who was causing a lot of stress when I was already in a pretty stressful time. So, yeah, I'd love your feedback on maybe, I don't know, if maybe I've made the right choice or if there's maybe I should talk to him because he calls me at least once a month to try to talk to me, but I just ignore it because he never catches me at a good time, and I also just don't really want to talk to him uh so yeah again i love you guys so much and you know keep doing what you're doing thank you bye okay well uh this is hard because we don't really know um This is hard because we don't really know, like, what she said to communicate that she felt like he wasn't listening, then they're not being a really good friend and that it is unbalanced and that

does suck. Uh, but I, I learned in therapy and I feel like Nicole, I heard you say this too, that like you got to operate from I statements. Like I feel unheard when you only talk about your situation or I feel neglected when you're not asking me how it's supposed to. You're not listening to me.

You're not doing this. You're you're being bad, et cetera, et cetera. Maybe he couldn't hear that. Also, a divorce is a really rough thing to go through as well. So maybe he really didn't have the capacity to actually ask you it which is unfortunate but yeah he may not have been able to see other people in the situation but I don't know if you did explain as much as you could and it doesn't make you feel good when you guys talk and you don't care to reunite the friendship then you don't have to reunite the friendship,

then you don't have to answer this person's call. But if you do care, then maybe it's worth having a conversation. I think that's very fair. Yeah, I feel like they fixed it. Like, you don't want to talk to this person, so you don't talk to this person. Yeah.

But if you do want to fix it, I think you're correct with I statements. Yeah. I don't know. Observe the person you're talking to like i think i don't want to judge anybody and i don't want to create blanket statements for behavior but typically when somebody cheats in a relationship there's either a lack of communication or somebody's choosing to be selfish and both of those things don't are traits that sound like what she's experiencing is a selfish person who's poor at communicating so i think you have to like evaluate uh that that

like individual and see if that's something that they can like grow into being a better version of or if they're just that's the type of person they are they're a grown-ass person and they're not really going to change yeah and you can change how very insightful yeah did you say you studied psychology because i do feel like sometimes i'm in a class when you talk i didn't yeah well no i didn't no i dropped out of college wow hell yeah dude who needs a degree um but yeah if you do have a desire to keep this person in your life they don't have to be as close as they used to they can be like all right this is another person i go to when i need to get things off my chest or vent about something this is my very chill surface brunch buddy or whatever the thing is this is

we're not we don't have to be you know this is my deep dive friend uh you can go somewhere else for that if that is not what your friend's giving you and that doesn't even necessarily need to be a conversation you can just show this person through the way you communicate with them that i'm done you know we don't have to really get into it we can chit chat catch up and then i will see you later bro because i gotta have a deep conversation with this friend who will actually listen to me yes yes yeah so i hope that works out hey good luck godspeed i think yeah good luck godspeed may the force be with you okay let's do one more question

hello nicole and sashir i had a question of friendship ethics come up and we'd love to know your thoughts jacob you're good at ethics um my friend thank you my friend has a private twitter account he uses to vent his frustration with his job wow really bad idea uh with the world with his partner etc i followed it years ago and i think he forgets i can see it i'm not active on twitter usually but will pop on every month or so if i'm bored recently he and his partner's relationship has been falling apart and i've been keeping an eye on that account every day to make sure he's okay i don't i don't react i don't react to anything on twitter but if i notice things are getting bad i'll find an excuse to message him and check up on him

if he tells me about something that happened that he'd already posted on twitter i'll still act surprised and like i haven't already read about it Haven't already read about it. No. I ended up watching this whole relationship decline and end with a breakup without ever acknowledging that I've been getting the play by play online. Is that fucked up? The main thing I want is to make sure he's doing all right. But sometimes it feels dishonest and voyeuristic to know something before he tells me about it himself. We've been friends for over a decade and have a good relationship.

So he does tell me what's going on in person, usually just a little bit later. Should I come clean about reading his post? Thank you so much for your jokes. Y'all bring. Um, wow. Interesting. should i come clean about reading his post thank you so much for your jokes y'all bring um wow interesting this is a dent this is dense yeah this is crazy i mean there's so many things that shouldn't be happening here this person shouldn't have a twitter account where they vent their real life frustrations with their relationship and job. Like journal, buy a journal. Are you kidding me?

Or if you're going to have that account, you can't have it accessible to your peer group. No, no one in your life. Don't tell a single person. That's so wild. Yeah. And, and that is strange for this person to creep on that account and not say anything it is

why y'all duh that they look at it every single day know exactly what's happening in this person's life get on the phone with this person or see them in person and then act surprised this if that's too much and they've been friends for a decade so i would hope i mean i guess you can know someone for a decade and not be close close friends but i would hope that you could be comfortable enough to be like hey i saw online something was going on are you okay yeah yeah i follow your but if you say that you're having a meltdown yeah if you say that now the person who has the fake account or the private account or whatever will be like wait all those times they messaged me was it because they saw my account and then if they bring it up then you have to be like yeah i've been looking at your account for like

years or months now i think you never tell them and i think you been looking at your account for like years or months now. I think you never tell them. And I think you stop looking at it. And you just text your friend like a normal person when you think about them. Yeah, you gotta, I do. I, you know, I don't think it's the most healthy option. But sometimes, yeah, I think you just gotta shut the fuck up and bury it. Uh-huh. Yeah, that goes to your grave man but when you're on your death that's earth shattering that's earth shattering to receive that would make me go insane and just yeah how many people have seen it how many of my

interactions have been like it would make me feel nutty but someone i feel like someone does have to tell the twitter person that they can be seen there are people in your life who can see this so maybe you want yourself should maybe hold back on posting all of your thoughts some people don't know how twitter made it really depends if he made it what the intention of was to be singular and unread by others or if it was like sort of an extension account that doesn't have his name but all of his buddies also have that's where that's the gray zone to me because if if your intention is to be like a secret diary that I can go to and use on Twitter and people found it, that's so different than if you're like, I got this thing that I sometimes tweet on. Well, they said it was a private account, which means that that person had to accept the follower, right? Oh, yes.

Yes, you're right. Yes. yes you're right yes oh then this person maybe if they already if they accepted you and you're following them then they know you're following them then i guess you can mention it they probably forgot they it's probably like yeah like eight years ago yeah this twitter yeah okay then i stick with never tell them or maybe like it would, maybe don't say I've seen your whole relationship deteriorate on this app, but maybe, like, I saw the last tweet, and looks like things are bad. Do you want to talk? Or maybe that person will be like, oh, shit, who else can see this?

That person does deserve a check-in with what that twitter is yeah okay yeah that works for me to be like i saw this recently i don't think yeah you can't tell them that you watched their relationship like fucking implode yeah because that that would also that's that's like gaslighting. Like we've had full conversations and you never mentioned that you already knew this information. I think the only acceptable way to do that in life is if you start dating somebody and you do a little bit of research. And on that date, they mention something you found in research and you act like you've never heard it before because you don't know each other yet. But once you know someone, you can't just be knowing shit about them and pretending like you didn't unless it's a secret that somebody told you. Yeah, but they posted it publicly.

Well, it's not public. It's private. We need more information. private we need more information we need to know if this is a private account where you are an accepted follower or it's their private account that nobody knows about yeah yeah okay that's a good distinction so this one this got to be to be continued we need more information this is a tbc I think he just like, honestly, the person that engaged with the reading is the most in the wrong in my, not that it's right or wrong,

but like as the most at stake and had the most involvement in the weirdness of it all. And so that's like up to them to contain or divulge. Yeah. And it feels just weird enough that you can contain. Yes. It feels utilitarian. You're doing everybody a service by just keeping it close to the chest.

Yes. The way we're trying to flatten the curve, you flatten the curve of reading your friendship. Another option, retweet it all hell yeah dude retweet it all crazy story and then you hit retweet and then it becomes a movie at fucking sundance and james franco it? I mean, why not? Dream big. Dream big, baby. My buddy stole a pair of James Franco's

boots at Sundance. Oh! Good for him. Does he still wear them? I think he still has them, yeah. I mean, yeah, wear them. Were these new boots or boots that he wore on his feet, like, actively? I think it was like he was at a gifting suite and got new boots and left his old boots behind. Oh, I was truly hoping that your friend pushed James Franco down to the snow and pulled the boots off of him.

Oh, no. Well, I guess, yeah, James didn't want the boots anymore they're up for grabs yeah those those are public boots community boots if you will sorry to go on a very random tangent but you said two words that were a story and i my my brain was like you can talk you have to let them know tell them tell them what if you don't get to tell them what if they never know the story that happens to me sometimes i'm like i have to tell the story and it's like maybe it's like a bit of a story but it's not long enough for me to have interrupted somebody

but this one was good. I liked it. This is a good story. I'm glad you told us. Thank you. Thank you. That's awesome to hear. Jacob, what's on your shirt?

It's like a sun with a star in its third eye and then a moon around the sun. Okay. I like it. It's a sassy sun, too. Yeah. It's a very sassy sun. She good nice lips fun eyes nice lips jacob please don't fuck your shirt not too late is that from the mountain yes it is as are all my shirts the mountain jacob's favorite shirt store is the mountain yeah nice they've got

great stuff they recently changed some of their sizes and it's really been fucking me over oh i'm sorry oh no yeah it's weird i think they got like a different base t-shirt vendor and it's like i just can't i can't get the sizing right i'm sorry you should write a letter to them. Dear The Mountain, your sizing is not good. It sounds like a cult. Like, I got it from The Mountain. The Mountain. You don't know about The Mountain? Come join me on The Mountain.

The Mountain has everything you need. Alright. Well, should we end this thing? We did it. We did it. We did really good. Yeah, we did it. There was a delay. We fought through it. The end, I think, is a little bit better. I think it's less of a delay.

But, you know, this is quarantine podcasting, baby. Yeah. This is the world we're in. Mm-hmm. Jacob, how can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Jacob Wysocki. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Jacob Wysocki. And you can also check out my podcast where I watched Fight Club for 72 hours straight on HeadGum.

It's called I Don't Want to Talk About Fight Club Anymore. And Nicole's in it. And honestly, I did it in Fight Club is the longest movie ever made. And it's bad. It's bad. It's long and it's bad. And I watched it 31 times. It's a bad movie. Oh, my God. It's bad. It's long and it's bad and I watched it 31 times. It's a bad movie.

The worst. I can't believe you watched it that many times. Will you watch it ever again? No. No. Unless I do it again. Which would just to be a do another 70. i was just thinking like what's the funniest option for another movie three days in a row and i went i said it's fight club again

if it's not broken if it's not broken don't fix it don't fix it it's that's such a weird saying who was the first person to try to fix something that wasn't broken and why why were they trying to do that teddy roosevelt what that's safe answer for a lot of historical things i think what was he trying to fix the light bulb and they were like it's done teddy it ain't broke stop trying to fix it and he's like it could be better wow this has been a nice history lesson thank you sashira i'll be sure to repeat that to people please don't i don't think that's right no i'm gonna repeat that to people i'm gonna say sashira told me no no need for the credit you could just say you found it on your own you want to know what sashira taught me today that franklin no that teddy roosevelt was yeah yeah I know it's just you taught me today. That Franklin, no. That Teddy Roosevelt was

Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude. And he didn't need to be. I've never seen somebody mowed themselves any faster. Just absolutely mowed it. I couldn't remember. Immediately forgot what we just said.

Franklin. Franklin. Dillanore. immediately forgot what we just said Franklin Franklin Dillanore Eleanor a Roosevelt a Roosevelt well this has been best friends friends

thanks Jacob thank you thank you Jacob Thank you, Jacob. Thank you. Thank you, Jacob.