Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata - Nicole and Sasheer Sing A Song (w/ Tracie Thoms)

Episode Date: July 8, 2026

Nicole and Sasheer are joined by a very special guest, actor/singer Tracie Thoms (The Devil Wears Prada, 9-1-1, Rent)! Our trio gets into the alchemy of a perfect party, the evolving conversation about the quality of the friendships in The Devil Wears Prada, and everyone’s favorite karaoke song to sing at a party.Watch this full video on YouTube and follow below!Follow Nicole: Twitter, Instagram, TikTokFollow Sasheer: Instagram, TikTokLike the show? Rate Best Friends 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts!Have a friendship question for Nicole and Sasheer to solve? Leave us a voicemail at [phone]‬ or write in at [e-mail] Friends is a production of Headgum Studios. Our producer is Allie Kahan. Our executive producer is Anya Kanevskaya. The show is edited, mixed, and engineered by Richelle Chen.This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Best Friends via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a headgum podcast. This is a headgum podcast. Hello, Sashir. Hello, Nicole. Turns out. Wow. You really matched my energy on that one. I was trying.

We have Tracy Tombs, an actress, a singer, career spanning, film, television, theater. Tracy has reprised her role as Lily in Devil Wears Prada, too. Sure did. And has starred across nine seasons of 911 as Karen Wilson, currently airing new episodes weekly on ABC. Tom's is widely known for and recognized in both the Columbia Pictures film adaptation and the Broadway production of Rent. We have Tracy!

Yes! I'm here. You're here. Thank you so much for being here. Of course. Yeah. Tracy, this is a podcast about friendship. Friendship.

Love of Friends, fellowship. Do you remember your best friend, like growing up? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, my first best friend was my mom and her best friend were pregnant at the same time. Wow. So I was kind of gifted a best friend when I was a baby. So, and then I met another best friend when I was five.

And today is her birthday. Oh, my goodness. Actually, my name is Jessica Williams. Happy birthday, Jessica. Happy birthday, Jessica. I just thought of that just now. I was like, oh, my God, it's her birthday today. Yeah, and then.

Moving through life, you know, you pick up best friends, you lose best friends, you know. And right now, I just feel like I have like a bunch of best friends. Is your longest standing best friend, like the one you've had since you're five or birth? No, I mean, we're still friends. Yeah. The one whose birthdays is today, we're still friends. And I will always say she's my best friend, even though we don't talk very, very often. But I always said, she's my best friend.

Yeah. We're five. The next best friend, I guess I picked up when I was like, 12, 12, 13, and we're still very close. It's impressive, though, like when you have a best friend as a child, because, you know, as you grow up, people change, experiences change you. You move, but, like, being able to, like, stay in contact is, like, rare, I feel like. Yeah, I feel that way, but most people I talk to have one. I feel like a lot of people, yeah. The idea, people, the idea is that it's rare. Yeah. But then I'll talk to people and I'm like, oh, yeah, I talk to people. Oh, yeah, it's. are friends from middle school and I'm like

Yeah, so maybe not rare. Maybe it's not as rare as we think. I think the concept we think is rare. Yeah. I got into a debate with a friend of mine recently. He was like, well, girls don't stay friends for life. I'm like, who told you that? Yeah, that's a lie.

Like, my core best friends are women. Like, he vehemently fought. Like, no, women are too jealous. They're jealous of each other. They're too vindictive. They're petty. And they don't stay friends for a long time. you're a unicorn because you still have friends from 20. No. I was like, no.

And I got like enraged. Yeah. Because I think that's just certain women. Certain women get jealous of other women. I became like irrationally enraged at my friends. Yeah, I would get back to. And then to the point where another person was there was like, let's ask chat GPT if this is true. And Chapman was like, no, women tend to say friends longer.

I'm like, boom, in your face. Yeah. Yeah. That's a bold stance, too, because I would guess men, even if they are maintaining relationships, they're not very deep. They're not deepening these. And then we'll spend three or four hours with another man. You'll be like, so how is their relationship?

I don't know. Yeah. It's like, so what? They had a breakup. How are they feeling? They're like, I don't know. I know. You may have friends, but like, are you actually taking care?

Because my wife said that. I'm like, well, I love your wife. That's your wife. Like, your wife is, maybe me? She's great, but, um, no. Yeah, she's not speaking for everybody. Yeah, she's not like all women. No.

You know what I mean? Not all women. I know. Every girl I know, every woman, every woman I know, has friendships, long-term friendships. So it was a very strange conversation. Yeah. So, Shear, do you have friends? I feel like I know the answer, but I don't remember.

Do you have friends from, like, middle school, elementary school? High School? I think the farthest I can go back is college. Ah. Yeah. But I also moved around a lot when I was younger. Oh. And then...

She's from Japan. I was born in Japan. Wow, that's funny. She's from Japan. Oh. You're like, great. What do I do with that information? And I'm like,

she's from Japan. Nothing. My dad was in the military, so he bounced around. I put that together. Because Japan is kind of homogenous. Yeah. There's just a lot of... I did have one friend that I made in first and second grade,

and we tried to stay pen pals. We actually successfully were pen pals for years. And then when I saw her again, I think we were both in middle school, we were like, well, this was nice. We were just, like, very different at that point. Not in a bad way. Just like, oh, I think if we probably stayed at the same school,

maybe we would have drifted apart naturally. But it was just like, okay, well, Well, have a good one. Have a good one. Nice to see you. I mean, you know what? That's more pleasant than growing apart from a friend while they're in your face all the time. That's true.

When you're like, it's kind of, it aches a bit. Yeah, no, it's very painful. Yeah. It's very painful. Like we used to have all these good times and now you're just doing that with other people. Yeah. You're doing other people and, you know, in the realization that if you met them as an adult, you probably wouldn't be friends. Yeah, I had a friend in my early 20s.

We drifted apart in our friendship and I realized that she was like kind of mean. Yeah. And then I saw her again a couple years ago and I was like, I can't believe this is the person I spent all my time. Like you are so incredibly different in a way that like I don't recognize. But then also it was like, good to see you. Good to see you. This was fun. I had a lot of like internal thoughts that I was like, huh?

Love you from far. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's really weird. It's like, and nobody tells you how to do it. No. Like, you know, you break up with a boyfriend or a girlfriend or whatever. You know what I mean?

Like a romantic relationship. There's billions of books and movies and songs about how to do that. But working up with a friend, it's like, I don't know how to do this. Yeah. And then it's wild to say out loud like, oh, I'm just really sad about this friendship that ended. People would be like, get over it. And it's like, but we were good friends. Yeah.

That person's sad. now different and I don't know how to deal with it. Yeah. It kind of feels... Or I'm different. Maybe I'm different. Yeah. I change. You know. It's sad when you're like, oh, this just isn't fit the way it used to.

Like, maybe we've outgrown this friendship or whatever. Or it starts to feel like, like, like, toxic. Or it's just to feel like you're trapped in it because I've labeled you as my best friends for so many years. And now I'm like, how do you get... Yeah. It's really, really weird. But best friendships are great.

Now I just realize that I have so many people in my life that I call my best to eat. That's amazing. Which is great. Which is like, you know, it's like having the capacity to love a lot of people as friends and like really care about them and have a beautiful friend group and a beautiful community of people. Yeah. And it's great. Some people don't function that way. They're like, no, I have three people who I love and everybody else can kick rocks.

But no, I'm like. But no. I love so many people and I have so many besties. And if any of them call me their bestie, I would say, yes, I'm their bestie. But also not to be cliche, but my partner is really my best friend now. And it was one of those things I started to realize he was my friend for a very long time. And then when it started to shift, I didn't even notice it because we were such good friends. I was like, no, no, I just love him.

He's my friend. And people are like, no. I'm looking at him. That's not allowed. I'm looking at him. And that's more than that. You don't even notice it. I'm like, no, because he's been my friend for a long time.

Is he such a friend that he's like in your friend group? Oh, wow, that's great. Yeah. I mean, it was weird when it happened. It was very like, no, ill. No, you're like my boy. How long were you friends before? We were friends for like since like 2001.

So it was like 12 years. Uh-huh. You know, so yeah. And it turned to shift. I was like, no, he's just my really good. No, he's my really good friend. No, I really, really. No, actually, that's not even true.

I'm lying. It wasn't 12 years. It was like 17 years. Damn, that's a long time. Yeah. Yeah, it was a long time of us being friends. And there was that, like, there were no, like sparks before. Not for me.

Yeah. He would say not for him either. Like, we really were just like, oh, my homie, yeah. Who made the first movie? Yeah. Or was it mutual? Oh, okay. I mean, yeah.

But it was one of those like, wait, no, wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and no, and it was like a conversation. It has to be. And I was like, no. And I was like, it was a blurted, it was very wrong-coming. You know what I mean? It's very much like, you know. Was the friend group, like, happy about it? Because I don't watch the show Friends, but I know.

The friend group was very weirded out. Oh, okay. Yeah, it can be detrimental because it's like, you can try it. But, like, if you guys, like, have a bad time, then, like, what happened? with the group. I actually am re-watching friends right now, and I just got to the part where Ross and Rachel take a break. And it is complicated.

Because the group's like, and it is complicated. It's complicated. Because the friends are like, well, we want to hang out with Rachel, but Ross can't come. And then we want to hang out with Ross, but Rachel can't come. And it's like, you know, I don't operate. Yeah, it's potentially that.

But then it was like, it was a lot. It was a long time of like, no, no, no, no, this can be it until it became very obvious to us. Mm-hmm. But we were, like, in denial about it for, like, a long time. Because nothing was happening. It was going to like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Nothing's defensive. And really nothing was going on.

But people were like, we see. They were like, we see something. No, no, no, no, you guys are making this up. No, we're just working on a project together. No, no, nothing's happening. We're just having sleepovers. We're just having sleepovers. We're big things.

We're friends. But we are friends. No. We're friends. No, but that's, yeah, no. But once it was like, I was like many, many months of that. I'm like just finally like, okay, let's see what this is. Yeah.

Is it real, whatever? And then it was seven years ago. Wow. I like that. Do you think your partner is your best friend? I think she's a best friend. That's how I feel. But then also sometimes I'm like, he's not my friend.

I can't tell him that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There is a little bit of. separation that I think is healthy. Oh, for sure. In a partnership.

Absolutely. Particularly if you start a partnership kind of romantically from the beginning. You know what I mean? Like we literally were friends. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So it was like we know where all the bodies were buried. We're like, oh my God, I have this really cool friend.

I know where all the bodies. That's really funny. I've never heard that phrase. I know where the bodies are. Yeah. Yeah. Was there any like shifting that had to happen once he became partners? No.

That's great. No, it just, it just was a very natural. I mean, that's a good sign. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I learned that, and that is so funny because, like, I have a period of time. I have, the way I play roles, I have, like, chunks. So, like, I started my career as the best friend.

And then I went to, like, cop, lawyer, FBI agent, law enforcement. And then I went to, like, a boss bitch moment. Mm-hmm. And now I'm, like, into therapists. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when this was happening, I got this therapist role in Station 19. And literally everything I was saying as a therapist was like, for me.

Oh. I was like, did you know? You know? And so I was shrinking somebody on the show. And she was like, oh, my God, he makes me feel alive, makes me feel electric. I feel, I feel hot, but I'm around. I feel, whatever. You know, and my therapist character was like, that's not love.

That is something else. That is anxiety. That is you're doing something. You know you're not supposed to be doing by having an affair with someone in your department. Love is calm. It's peaceful and calm. And I was like, oh.

You like that so that? Well, because we get addicted to the drugs. Yeah, the butterflies and the, is he going to calm today? How do we call us one today? Where is he? What's doing? You know, we get addicted to that feelings.

We think that feeling is love. Yeah. But love is actually very calm. Mm-hmm. You know, and I saw Zendaya said this about Tom. He said it in an interview. And I was like, that's it. She was like, actually, I feel very calm around him.

He's the person I feel the most calm around. I'm like, yeah. Yeah, but we don't learn that. We don't have like intelligence about that. Emotional intelligence about that. Nobody, we don't have a class about that. Well, like movies and TV tell you that the butterflies are real. Yeah, yeah.

Carrie Brashaw says the Zaza Zoo. She's like, do you have the Zaza Zoo? And it's like, no, do you feel comfortable? Can you be yourself? Do you have to, like, put something on for this person? It's like, no, I could just be me. Yeah. Today I was being very annoying to the nice man in my life,

like, incredibly annoying. And then his, like, face changed, and I was like, oh, do you want me to, like, leave you alone so he can, like, work because he's a nine to five? And he was like, I mean, if you don't mind, I was like, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, okay, I'll just be over. I'll be over here.

Hovering. Actually, I do you want to talk about one of your roles? So you're in Devil Wears Prada again. I am. I'm back. You're back. Devil is still wearing Prada. Devil 2 wears Prada.

Devil 2 wears Prada. Do they call it? In the first movie, there was like, well, I don't know if people were talking about this when it came out, but I think over time people started analyzing how Ann Hathaway's boyfriend was treating her, how her friends were treating her. And your character was kind of not supportive of her career, as people probably would have thought. Would you consider your character a good friend or a bad friend?

Ooh. Ooh, this is the discussion. This is the actress' work. Well, it's funny because I think what happened is like maybe 10 years after the movie came out, there was like a think piece that came out, like the real villains of Deborah Rorsch Prada are the friend. And this think piece spread. Like it went like, and that had not been a conversation before.

Maybe 10 years ago. And I was like, oh, oh. And I have talked to the other friends. You know, I have to actually say that Doug, the guy, Rich Summer played Doug. He just gets thrown into it. He didn't do anything wrong. Right. I just want to stick up for Doug for Rich Summer.

I'm going to stick up for you. Like he may you toss the phone once in that one thing. But he was pretty supportive. He loved fashion. You know what I mean? He was like he was our metrosexual guy. And he just catches strays all the time. I want to say, I love you, Rich, and you didn't do anything.

Now, to the friend group. I think here's the thing about Andy and Lily. They grew up together, right? I say to her, I've known you for 16 years, right? Not like I'm a new friend. grew up with her. Yeah. And basically what's happening is she's becoming a person that she herself said she didn't like.

That's true. Right? Yeah. She complains in the beginning of the movie about all the women she works with. She complains about Miranda. She complains about Emily. And suddenly she's dressing differently. She's behaving differently.

She's dropped out of the friend group. She doesn't show up. She doesn't show up for her boyfriend. Yeah. And not just at his birthday, but even at home. Remember there's scenes, but he's like in the background. Like, are you coming to bed? She's like, I'm painting the diorama thing for the twins for my boss's children.

Like, she's like doing whatever her boss says. Yeah. And it's toxic. Like, her workplace is toxic. You know, we like it because it's cunty. Can I say cunty? Yeah, you can definitely. We like it because Stanley Tucci is cunty.

And Marina's cunty. And Emma is very cunty. But they're mean. They're terrible to her. Stanley Tucci's character, Nigel, calls her fat every single day. Emily tries to sabotage her all the time. Miranda won't even be bothered to learn her name.

And as her friend, I don't like that. Yeah. If her dream was to be in fashion, that would be different. It was not her dream. She did not want this job. It was the only job she could get. And suddenly she says to Nigel,

she's like, I'm not going to be working here forever. I don't change everything about myself. It's like, yes, you do. So then she does. Yeah. And, you know, so you need a friend who's going to say, hey, who are you? Mm-hmm. What's happening?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you're flirting with this guy. All I see is him kiss her and she's blushing. Her boyfriend is my friend. Yeah. It's an event I threw. Yeah. He's coming.

Her boyfriend is coming here and you're with this other man. And I don't recognize my friend. Yeah. So you need a friend who's going to be like, hey friend. Now, are we hard on her? Yes. Yeah, we're pretty hard on her. But people like, you know, so there's all these threads about how, what a terrible friend Louis was.

Like, she was so judgmental. And I'm like, okay, but also not an enabler. We love that. We do love that. You need a friend who's not going to enable bad behavior or, like, nobody gives Andy's father shit. for being like, put the phone down, we're going to the theater, you can't do it. That's true. Nobody gives him any static, you know?

They're like, oh, he's just a... Probably because his family. He's just a dad. He's a dad, so it's fine. But the friends, when you're friends for 16 years, you're basically family. Yeah. You know, yeah. She took that purse to him like, who's not going to take the purse?

Really funny. I feel like... So I had this couple couples to be this beautiful gay couple came up. Oh my God, I hated you so much in that movie. God, I hated you in that movie. And I'm like, why? Because you were just so...

You were just... I said words. Yeah, tell me why. Tell me why. And they're like, well, you took the purse? Like, you wouldn't take the purse? I didn't go into Miranda's office and steal the purse. I feel like people say

A friend group is bad in hindsight, like years later, because they watch the movie and they want that opportunity. And they would have wanted their friends to agree with them taking it. But they forget that Andy's main goal was not to have it. Yeah. Now, these are really great points. And you're watching your friend change. And that, you know, they might not be able to see it.

So you're like, hey, as an outside perspective. And also, a lot of time goes by. So between the purse and the gallery. like months go by. Yeah. So it's not like I'm like, you know, you're a bad person. I don't know who you are and I don't recognize you, but give me this purse. It was like the purse had been happened.

Yeah. Yeah. That was in the beginning. And when she just first started to change her wardrobe. Yeah. The purse thing happened. And she just brings it to us at the bar. She's like, I brought some stuff.

We're like, okay, cool, whatever. But then Miranda calls and we play hot potato with a phone for a second. Because at this point, it's nighttime. She should be off work. You know, and I think it's really interesting as well because, like, I'm a scroller, and I see threads of younger generation people. The youth. The youth. And I'm like, I see whole threads of them talking about how they quit their jobs at lunch.

Right? Yeah. Because they're Boston and respect their time and contributions. I'm like, but this is the same generation that's like, the friends were terrible for not supporting her time. It's like boss. Yeah, the perspective on jobs. Yeah, but it's interesting. I think it's because the fashion is so seductive.

Definitely. You know? I also think it's, I think it's called like the pea soup theory. There was a lady who, do you know this? I don't. There was a lady who posted a recipe online for like pea soup or something. And then all the comments are like, what if I don't want to use peas? Oh, yes.

And she's like, well, then you want something else. You want something else. You want something else. And is a pea soup recipe. Yes. And I think people now watch movies and cannot. just watch the experience, they inject their own experience into it. Maybe.

I mean, I get it. I do get it because we don't have scenes in the movie where we're being hunky, you know. But you're moving the story along. We're moving the story along. And you're reminding her who she is. In the beginning, we're all very snarky to each other. I mean, I think snark is an element that has been lost. Yes.

You know, everything in the ox was snarky. We already did each other shit about everything. Sex in the City is not like, they're not like, oh my God, I love your hair every day. I love you look so pretty, I've got my best friend, whatever. They give each other the business all the time. Even on friends. Even on friends.

They're just everybody's. Back to friends. I was impressed that, or not impressed, but just like surprise at how cutting they are to each other. Because in my memory, I'm like, oh, they're just like their friends and they're nice to each other. I was like, damn. Even Phoebe.

They give each other shit all the time. And that's just something that was just a part of entertainment at the time. And now people are, no, we can't be mean to each other. We have to have safe spaces. You know, and it's just a different environment now. So I get that. So when they go back and see a 20-year-old movie and see, in the first scene, we're all giving each other shit.

You know what I mean? Because we're giving Nate shit for, like, working in a shitty restaurant. You know, Nate's like, what is it you do anyway? And I'm like, whatever. You know, and it's just what we did. Yeah. So I think that element is surprising to people and they go back and watch it because people have very, very, very strong opinions about the friend group. I mean, I've seen whole podcast like, the friends were shitty, blah.

It's like, oh my God. I really maintain if it wasn't something aspirational like fashion, if it was like garbage truck driver, which I think they're very important. They're so important. But it's not a desirable job. Right. But I think if it was like that, people would be like, these friends are right. She doesn't need to be up all night for the garbage truck. Actually, do want to see this movie.

A tyrant boss. The garbage truck company. My kid needs a, their project, too. And their garbage emptied. All right, we'll write it. I guess we have to write that movie. On the break. Oh, my goodness.

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I wanted to finish And I wanted to haunt his dreams As he went to sleep All he said is Do you believe Life after laugh? Also who's this man heckling at a karaoke bar? That's crazy

It's like something you said When I first met you Like I don't have to be good at my hobbies No I don't Be good at my hobbies And people want to be good at it No.

I know karaoke is, I've karaoke at my house. That's fine. Yeah. You have a whole setup? Yeah, I have a whole setup. Oh, fine. I'm at course right now because we were karaokeing last night. That's fine.

What's your go-to karaoke song? I used to have a set. Oh. But lately, I haven't, I just set it up for other people. And I know I try to sing something going, no, you guys sing. So what was happening. What was happening? Don't make me sing.

Don't make me sing. No, but really, though. I had a moment where, like, everybody who was getting on karaoke in my house were singers, like, brought with people. And it really intimidated other people. Of course. Not me. From singing. And also, when it happened, I'm going to my brother, my brother, who lives with me and who also is a best friend of mine.

You know, be like, Austin, get in here. We need to break up the singers. He's like, gladly. He's like, all right. Duty calls. He could run there like a Sarah. He's like, I want to smile a while for me. He just will jump in there to break up the singers because people will just get like, I'm not singing.

Of course. This is a performance, man. This is a performance. You know, I bought tickets. But yeah, I think karaoke is actually best for people who don't sing. Do they rarely get the opportunity. Yeah. I mean, there's something very therapeutic about singing out loud and singing your feelings.

your feelings and sing. You know, in acting school, we had to sing. Even if you couldn't sing in class, just to get your feelings out. Yeah. Really remarkably helpful to be able to just open your throat and sing.

Whether it sounds good or not. And I like the community aspect of it. Yeah. Watching each other, cheering each other on, backing each other up, you know what I mean? And the little kids would come over. We back them up. We sing with the kids.

The kids just like singing, you know. It's, it's not that, that song. Sing, sing a song. Sing out loud. Sing out strong. Yeah, it's really. What comes after that? Sing of good things, not bad.

I don't think I've ever heard the rest of that song. Sing for happy, not sad. La, la, la, la. It sounds really, for sure. Sure does it. I'm bold. No, you're not. Don't do that. Black, don't crack. We simply don't know how old you are. Yes, I'm 12. I'm 12. Turns out I'm 12.

She's lived life. I've lived a whole lot of life for 12. Tracy, you host a lot of parties. And how did you, like, why do you enjoy hosting party? That's a weird question. Why do you enjoy it? No, no, no, no. No, it's not weird. I asked myself this question. I was an only child until I was 12 and a half. My brother's that much younger than me. so I did a lot of self-intertaining. But I was kind of shy. I was weird. I was shy and a ham.

I don't know how both of those things go together. I was that annoying kid. You came over like, come to my room. And I would take strangers to my room. These are my Barbies, you know. Like I was that annoying kid. But also, I very much felt like an outsider. But because I was alone a lot,

my parents would like kind of buy me toys to fill the void to fill the void you know and so I would always have my friends come over like let's play with my Star Wars tour or whatever so I feel like I just had this weird impulse to like come over and let me entertain you that kind of stuck in my head but I didn't throw a party for myself until I was 29 because I always felt nobody would come you know I was like I'm not going to throw a party nobody will come I was inspired by the space of this bar around the corner from my house in New York. It was called The Den. It no longer exists, but they had a really lovely backyard area. And I was like, maybe I'll have a party here for a couple of my friends. Do you ever sing anything from rent for people? People put it on all the time. And I'm like, anyway, let me finish what I'm saying.

So 29, I was like, maybe I might have gone. with people and like my whole school came, you know, and I was like, oh, that's weird. Okay, you know. And it felt good, but also overwhelming. Yeah. But moving out to L.A., I realized that L.A. is a very lonely town if you come and everything's far away. New York, you run into people all the time. Yeah, that's fine.

You'll like have to like, I will see you next Tuesday at 1215. You know, you have to plan it and get in the car and drive and park and do the things. And just in my friend group, which is a big group, we just started like getting together and providing space and opportunity for people to come together and eat food and meet people. I've had so many people meet at my parties and people have gotten married and had children.

My house is called Lola. And the kids are called the Lola babies. Those Lola babies that have been born. And now some of them are like, 16 now. It's crazy. But I feel like people need a place to go where there's no cameras. There's no papuazzi.

There's no, you know, people just be themselves. I don't throw like grown and sexy parties. I throw theme parties that are ridiculous. You know, I really feel like it's very important as human beings, particularly as black people, that we never stop playing. You know? And once you stop playing, you get old. Yeah.

I agree. You know? Yeah. You have to like get together, play games. Be silly. You know, you don't have to wear makeup, no heels, you know. I just, I thought like pajama parties or like, you know, 80s parties or like theme parties or like decades. I had one party.

I had a teen movie or TV show party. Oh, fine. I was just like, how many Carlton's are going to get? A lot of Carlton's. A lot of Hillary's. That's fun. Yeah. A lot of Carltons, a lot of Hillary's, a lot of best.

from a breakfast club. You know, a lot of those dudes walking around this. You know, we had the whole cast of the craft came. All the goonies came. One guy was even slothed with, like, an eye down here. It was like, you know. But it's like an opportunity of people to be creative and I get out of their, the doldrums.

Yeah. They're like comfort zone. Yeah. What is, okay, so besides themes, what is, what does the perfect party entail? Okay. Perfect party. entails food. Yeah. Right. It has to have food. Yeah. We're adults. Are you catering? Are you

cooking? I cook or potluck, whatever. It depends. It depends on the party. Yeah. But there has to be foods. We can't have people drinking with no food. Right. And send them off into the street. No food. This is important. I go to parties and people don't have food. I'm like, what will we doing? It's wild. I'm like, there's a chip. Upsetting. I have been, yes, I went to a party once. where there was like a chip in like a white claw and I was like, what? What are we doing? I came here.

Don't do it. For what? Yeah. For what? I mean, and have the people help you. Like, bring a bottle, bring a beverage, alcoholic or not. Bring a food item or order something. Or here's the Venmo if you want to like contribute.

But like we have to. Food. Food, beverages, music. Yes. Activities. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. Right.

Karaoke. Mm-hmm. DJ music, games, you know, or else people are just standing around looking at each other. Mm-hmm. And me and my brother kind of have it down to a science now. Oh. You know, he starts the music with a thing. And then, you know, we have a DJ booth.

I have a stage in my living room. I love that. I love that. I have a disco ball. And we have a DJ booth. I love that. I want a disco ball. So it depends.

I think I'm going to get a disco ball. I also think I'm going to get a karaoke thingy. Yeah, definitely. Do you have a screen for the words? The TV is the screen. Okay. So basically there's an app called Kara Fun. I love Kara Fun.

And you can just mirror it to the TV. I have a friend named Kara Clank and I like to pretend. It's her company. Kara Clank. Carri Clank. Carrilegg of Caravan. And I've never told her that. Okay, well, mouse it out.

That's so funny. Yeah, you mirror it to the TV. Uh-huh. There's a remote control thing. you put on. So there's a QR code on the screen so people can put in from their phones. Yes, yes, yes. Yes. And it just runs itself. That's great. I have never thought of having karaoke out a party, but that is an excellent fucking idea. Yeah. No, it's great. It gets the people going. It really does. But it also makes them not want to leave. Which is fine, because I'm a night

off. That's fine for me. But people can try out new stuff. We play, sometimes we play a game called Kamikaze karaoke where other people pick songs for you? We've done that before. But what do we call it? I don't know if we had a name for it. I don't know. We were on mushrooms.

Yeah. We just like, pick us off for your friend. And I sing, she's like the wind and a very old white lady crossed right in front of me and I said, is that a ghost? She is like the wind.

She is like the wind. She is like the wind. Keep singing. Keep singing. What did I pick for you? Something hard. Probably Fnessness. Oh, man.

I love that song. Evanescence is really hard. It's Jesus. It's so hard. And I love singing the man part. And I love when Sashir hits those high. Sashir can sing. That's nice.

I once asked her to sing. I can't sing well. I can't sing like Amy Lee. But you're a great singer. Thank you. And I will not let you negate that. I won't negate it. I once asked her to sing

in the arms of a day. And you said sing it to me. Yep. That's a whole whole. bar down. Oh my God. And I was just in the front row like, yes. Smiling so hard and I looked around and nobody else was having a good time.

They're like calling their pets. They're all looking at their pets. Their pets are like on the camera like, cease. Sox, are you okay? What are you doing, baby? Wow. Okay, so food, activity, Music.

People really don't give the activity part enough attention. Yeah. Right? I agree. Because we're standing around like, so, how's work? Uh-huh. I'm also a person who, when I go to parties, I really appreciate when there's activities. Like, I can chitch out for a little bit, but then I'm like, well, is this a moment I leave?

Or what? There's something to do with my hands. I'm like, or like to look at. I'm like, let's concentrate on this now. Yeah. Because it's also like not everybody is socially, you know, able to do that. People are socially awkward. They need something to do.

Yeah, definitely. Yeah, when I have parties, I'll put out, I need a new one, but I sometimes have like a craft station where you can make a bracelet. Wow. Or there's cards or there's markers out. You can do that. And that's usually a hit. Definitely.

Well, it is because it's also a novelty. No one's going to get to do that anywhere else. That's true. You know what I mean? So it's like, oh, I can leave with a gift that I've made. Yeah. And I'm proud of myself. I did this.

I did this. I made it. I've been told my living room is like the waiting room out of doctor's office. Because I have like puzzles, coloring books, fidget spinners. Uh-huh. Lots of fidget toys. Yeah. I would just want anyone to be able to like.

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Hopefully you didn't do something terrible. And we're back. Do you have opinions about lighting at a party? Oh yeah, I do. The lighting has to be right. You can't have bright, bright lights. I agree. Yeah.

It just really, I don't know what it is. I think people are more comfortable if the lighting is low. Yes. They're more comfortable to be themselves. I don't feel like watched. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's why I have my disco ball. I'm an unsurious part.

I love it. It was like, disco ball. I'm like, yes, it is. Yes, it is. And that is a stage. I love it. I love that.

You know what? You love it stage. And then we are very ridiculous. We pulled out my instruments, my fake instruments from my rock band game. Oh, great. You know, nobody has we anymore. Yeah. I don't even know if I could hook it up.

Mm-hmm. But I took the instruments out and they just sit there on the stage. So they wouldn't feel like pretending. They're playing guitar. That's so fun. That's great. And people just grab the guitar. There's like a, there's like a, there's a key tar.

You know, with the key. You can play that. There's a drum set. You can play. I love that. That's great. We're adults. I'm 50.

I mean. You don't look at. Stay here. Thank you. I thought you're 12. You said that earlier. And I believed you. I'm also 12.

But I just think, you know, you can't be too serious. So serious. You know what I mean? Because life is hard right now. Mm-hmm. And if you're like being serious internally and things are blowing up all around us, that makes a very, very difficult timeline.

And we're already in a difficult timeline. Yeah. So if you can't find the play and the fun and then... Then what's you doing? Well, it seems very... It gets very depressing. Mm-hmm. So, you know, you need playmates.

You need people to play with. And, like, find people going to play with you. Yeah. Do you have any other forms of play? Well, my life is play. You know, I pretend to be other people for living. True. So that's very playful.

Yeah, I just... I'm always constantly trying to help friends in my friend group. We're trying to develop new things and write scripts and play around in that way. I coach acting auditions for people that are friends So that's all also playful to be like Okay, let's see how we can play with this And let's run around the room Do it in a Scottish accent go

Even if you can't do a Scottish accent Just try it to make it fun and open it up You know so I just think it's It's really really important I do To just to just you know Find ways to unwind and yeah, and not take things so seriously all the time. At your party, is it shoes off or shoes on?

It's shoes on because it's indoor, outdoor. It's true. It gets complicated. You know, I can't like come in the front door, take your shoes off, go off the back jump, put the shoes back on, you know, whatever. No, it's fine. It's fine. I mean, but I very much respect when I go to other people's houses that are shoes off.

I understand it. It just doesn't work in my house because there's so much. indoor, outdoor flow. Yeah. Do you feel like you have a higher, low percentage of friends that you've made from work from, like, projects that you've done over the years? Oh, gosh.

Yeah. Yeah. I, I, like, my cold case family, we're still in a text thread, and that was 16 years ago. We were canceled. We still talk to each other all the time. You know, I have, particularly in theater,

you know, I have threads from every, like, falsetto's has a thread. We don't have a rent thread. We don't have a rent thread. But I talk to them all the time as well. Yeah, I think probably because the nature of what we do is so intimate. Yeah. I hang on to those friends. Yeah. Do you feel like it's a faster bond? Well, yeah, because you're accelerated. Yeah. You're an accelerated situation where it's like, okay, hi, nice to meet you. We make out now. Yeah. Yeah. It really is wild sometimes if you think about it. You're like, all right, first day, we're making out. Okay. Or you're like screaming at each at each other immediately. Yeah. Nice to meet you. This is the breakup scene. Yeah. Great. And it is funny. I feel like

it's always scheduled that way. Yeah. The most intimate things you do with someone is like the first time you meet them. And I don't know why. I don't know why. I think, I don't know why either. I mean, I try to think what is it because it's only two people. therefore the crew is like getting jelling so the scenes are not that complicated in the beginning to like Oh maybe. Try to get the, you know, I don't know. Me either.

But it is weird. I don't know what second age is do. Their scheduling seems so hard. I know. Yeah. And I have this weird thing with me. I tend to always be first up on the first day of shooting.

Oh, interesting. So the first day of Divorce brought a two was Anne Hathaway and me in the gallery. Oh, really? First day, 445 call, like early. I'm like, why? There's so much of this movie that I'm not. Why me?

First day, 445? That's really not that important. Y'all, that's crazy. First day, eye patches. Yeah. Because they know you can handle it. That's what somebody said. I'm like, why am I always first up?

I'm finding to ask somebody, no matter what, I'm always first up. And I am not a morning person. Yeah. So it's always, like, painful. So it's like, I'm like, 515. I'm like, oh, God. That means I have to drug myself or something or stay up all night. You know what I mean?

It's not like a natural thing. But okay, it's 7.30 p.m. Let's go to bed. No. No. What time do you usually wake up? Like 10. You know?

It's a nice time. But then I'll go back to sleep usually. Ooh, me too. If I've done one thing, I deserve a nap. I deserve a nap. I'm going to nap right after this morning. Oh, nice. I'm already planning it.

I'm already planning it. I'm in. Sleep on the couch. Put widows bay on and take a nap. But I asked a day, D. I said, why am I always the first step? Like, really, you don't have to call me at five. It's always like 546 or something weird.

It is always weird. And you're like, oh, we do that for two reasons. A, because we think it's respectful to you because you're not waiting around, you know. Oh, okay. I'm like, you know, we put you first, so you're not waiting around. And also, someone else said because they put the people that they know are going to get it done early. Oh. You know.

There you go. So if you're, like, generally a prepared person, you know, they know you're not going to get the day late. You're going to start the day. Hit the ground running. You're going to give us a good shot at making our day if we put you first. Wow. So that's like a nice compliment. It is. And I was like, hey, thank you. No.

You're like, no. You don't need to be respectful in that way. That's funny of you. Because when you're waiting, you get to sleep. You get to take a nap. And I'm like, you know, it's like, I'm not mad. I know there are afternoon calls. I know they exist. I've heard tale of me. I've heard tale of people having a 2.30 p.m. call. Lovely.

I've heard of that. Could I get some of that? I would like some of that. Please, please, sir, because I have an afternoon cold, please. I'm not complaining, obviously. I'm grateful. I'm grateful. Grateful for work.

But it's hard. People always ask me, they're like, you're such a night out and I've been my whole life. They're like, how do you get up? How was it? I'm like, I do because it's my job, but it's painful. Uh-huh. I am not a morning. Are you a morning person?

I am now. Oh. My body. just adjusted it. I don't know why. Not on purpose. But yeah, it just naturally wakes up at like seven or eight. Woof. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I keep hearing that that's going to happen in my old age. Yeah. I don't know when that's going to happen for me. It's not happened. My mother was the same. My brother's same. We're just extreme night owls. I hear it's genetic actually. Wait, really?

Yeah. If your circadian rhythm is like backwards, that could be a genetic thing. And they say I don't know if it's true. They say that those people are descendants of the night watch people, the night watch. I'm a night watcher. I don't know what that means. Yes. To protect the tribe for president. I protect the tribe.

Yeah. We protect our tribes. We're the watchers. And I'm a hunter-gatherer? Yeah. Yes. I go out in the morning get food? Yes.

Yeah. Oh, man. Maybe. Yeah. Lazy's in my bones. Sit and watch. My dad's a super early. riser, so maybe that's, it's, my, my body's coming into its truth.

Into its truth. It's setting itself. I can stay awake all night. When the sun rises, that's when my body goes, time to sleep. Go to bed. Like when I wake up in the morning, I see the sun, I go, I should sleep for longer. Yeah, it's really weird. Huh.

It's really weird. I can, I can nap like a champ. I can nap too. Oh my God. Good night. But at night I'm like, Bing. Yes. What else can I do?

Yes. We have a project can I start. It's quiet. Nobody's bothering me. The phone is silent. Nobody's calling the phone. That's how I feel. It's so good.

It's underrated. I love going to, like, just taking a nap, I'm like, oh, wow. I have a lot of emails. They'll get them when they get them. They'll get them. Oh, I'll just throw my phone. Yeah. Sleep is important right now.

It's noon. It is important. It's noon. Yeah. It's noon. Better take a nap. Same for a napy poo. I mean, there have been all these, like, because everyone's trying to live longer, which I don't know why.

Me either. Yeah. Like, we're not supposed to be here this long. No. 67 sounds great. It does. I've seen enough. I've kind of seen enough now.

Yeah. I'm going to live forever. I'm like, I don't. Yeah, that Brian man. Do you guys know who him? Do you guys know who him? blood or whatever? Something like that, yeah.

I think I've heard of this guy. Now he might cure endometriosis because he's got a lady that he keeps looking in her pussy and doing tests. He himself? I don't know! I don't think he's qualified to do that.

He's looking right in there going. He's looking right in there. He can see endometriosis. In her vagina? Yeah, he might cure it. That's amazing because most people can. Well, that would be amazing, actually. My doctor, good not.

I was wary of his practices, but now I'm like, I mean, if he can dootitis. do that. Right? I was like this loser, but then I was like, wait a minute, you might do something for us. Huh. All right. I don't know how true this is. No, it's true. He posted on Instagram about this two days ago.

Okay. Wow. He was girlfriend's gyno examed about her endometriosis. And he ranked her in the top 1% of all vaginas. What? He ranked her. What? And now, yeah.

To go back to what? Other vaginas, he's gotten in? It says, the news article, it says the anti-aging influencer clearly has no shame when it comes to boasting about his girlfriend's privates, which he ranked in the top 1% of all vaginas, according to her results from her vaginal health test. Now he's making sure that she's keeping her prize possession in tip-top shape by not only accommodating her to her gyno exam, but by literally standing there while the doctor is chucking things out. Oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah, that's wild.

But he might cure endometriosis. We do love that. She should get out of there, though. It's like he's doing something good, but he's like, but I'll make sure it seems bad. Yeah, I'm not making creepy. Don't worry. I'll find a way.

Don't worry. I'm still weird. A photo. There's a photo? He posted it on his own Instagram, and it's of... Of what? The girl, you can't see her face.

She's on the exam table, and the gyno, you can't. can't see his face, but he's there and you see his arm. And then Brian, the man, is there right in between. I could show you guys, but it's very weird. I would like to see that. I need to see it. This is my issue. I see articles and I like skim them and I don't get the full scope of them. So then I say it. Then Ali's like, no, no, it's actually weird. No, no, it's actually as weird as you've been. Yes. Wow. Wow. How? Strange. We're living at a time where everyone gets to be as weird as they want to be,

and then they post it, and then we have to hear about it. I don't. I don't even know what's going to happen right. Me either. I'm like, what is it? Examining Kate's 1%. She has suspected endometriosis. This affects at least one in 10 women, likely more. Here she's getting an ultrasound. Historically, you needed surgery just to diagnose it. Incisions are made in the abdomen. We're doing a non-invasive route. Okay. I am actually blown away by this picture.

It is... She's not even in a hospital gown. No. It's just her dress. Because I guess she knew that this picture was going to be posted. And her hair is like... Her hair's done. And like...

Is this AI? Like, this is so... Yeah, it looks crazy. I don't know what I... The doctor's arm... This is so long. It does look like AI, actually. Because he's holding the thing in her hoo-ha.

Well, it's an ultrasound, but like... That's a thing in there. But he looks so far away from her. Like, this is a far reach. You know what I will say? Why is he posing with his hand on the same? Who's taking this picture? Yes, there's another person in the room.

The picture. That is a good point. And then the sign behind him looks like it says men only. It does look like that. You know, I do applaud him for not smiling or being like, Like, okay, there's a way to do this and this is not the way. It sure isn't. I'm really rocked.

I mean, I can even. I'm blown away. But I am glad. Oh, thank God we have her face. So we do see her face eventually. Great. That's her. I'd be like, don't ever post my face.

Don't post. Yeah, don't post my face my face. If you're going to post me my pussy getting examined, don't post my face. If you're going to post me with a man's arm in my vagina. I am unwell, guys. I am unable to move forward in my life. Well, I'm really glad I brought that up. Me too.

I mean, the endometriosis is very common and horrible. Yes. One and ten women. One and ten women. Which is wild. I'm one of the one of the ten. You know what I mean? It's terrible.

It's painful. Whatever great if he's going to cure it without having. Most people I know who've had endometriosis, you know, you don't know until you going for something else. Yes. Yeah. Also, it turns out. That sucks.

Animatriosis. So great. Yeah. Both are like. But that's. Yeah. And of course. Exactly.

I mean my wife's 1% vagina. Here I am posing. It's wild. But of course a man had to be the one to be like, I will be the one to combat an endometriosis. And that's fucking annoying. That's so annoying. It's annoying that they don't listen to women. It's so weird.

It's very annoying. It's very annoying because we just, women deal with so much pain. Yes. All the time. All the time. So no one pays attention. They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's just part of it.

I think years ago you told me that period cramps are akin to like a mild heart attack, like the same pains you feel. Yeah. And it's like, and we're expected just go out into the world and work and live and do all that shit. It's wild. It is wild. And when they're bad, they're bad. Yeah, mine were bad.

Yeah, there's these videos of... Very, very bad. Since I was, like, 13. Yeah. All my life. Yeah. There's these, like, machines that you can, like, hook up to your abdomen. Oh, and the men fall on ground.

Men are just, yeah, like, doubled over. They're like, oh, I'm like, yeah, every month. Yeah, every month it happens. Every month. I remember, being honest. And they put on women who have clients. And they're like, yeah. It is what it is what I feel.

I know. I, uh. I was once on a set and I was like, I'm having really awful cramps. I just need someone to get me a heating pad and they went and got it. And then they were like, oh, do you like need time or something? And I was like, no.

During our downtime, I'll put the heating pad on and then I'll do my fucking job. Yeah. And it was so weird because I said it. And then they were like, oh, now we coddle you? I don't know. And I was like... We're not used to us who've been talking about.

No, I'll do the job. I just, during downtime, need a minute. That's it. We should be able to walk away from work. Like, there's countries where you, where your period pain is enough for you to call out of work. Like, it can be a sick day. It's like, you can just be home. I used to like I miss a day of school.

That's nice. It would be all I would miss school for. Was that like, oh, Tracy? No, I would just be just doubled over in pain. It was terrible. Fucking sucks. It sucks. But I do love being a woman.

I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I love the other things about it. Yeah.

I love that part. But even that makes you feel. Strong. It reminds you like, I'm a strong motherfucker. Yeah. You know, I can do anything. I can do it all. We really can.

Yeah, it's true. It's unbelievable. Who's on your shirt? This is Michael Jackson. Oh, is it? It's Michael Jackson. Oh, Gary, Indiana. Ah.

That's a lot of merging. It's a lot of merging. A MJ joint. Ah. There's Michael Jackson with the glasses of that. I see. I get it. How funny. Yeah.

Well, that's who we are. We've come to the end. Well, are we finished? Yeah. You have lots of projects out. Yes. Is there anything you want to plug specifically? Well, season 10 of 9-1 is coming in the fall.

And if you haven't seen Devil Wars brought it to. Lily's still her friends. She made it after all these years. So I guess she wasn't a bad. Yeah, turns out. Well, the thing about that, just a book in that, what I was going to say is the things that Lily and Nate tell her about herself, she comes to agree with, which is why she quits at the end of the movie.

That is true. You know, and I was watched, because Nate gets really, really, really horrible commentary on his character. You know, people are like, well, she, you know, he was all sulking because. she didn't come to his birthday party. I'm like, how would you feel a little of you? Wouldn't you be a little upset? Boyfriend just all of a sudden didn't come.

Not like I have to work, I can't come. It's different than didn't show up. Didn't show up. Or like, I'll be there later. I have to do this work thing when every day is I have to do this work thing. Every single day is I have to do this work thing. You know what I mean? And she didn't even tell him.

I had to tell him. She called me and told me. Yeah, I'll be there later. I'm like, okay, all right. That would suck. Have fun. That would suck. Yeah.

Right? People don't actually put. They'd say, well, I wouldn't care. I'm like, yes, you would. You would care probably if you did not have a job that normally made you miss birthdays. As a doctor, we miss birthdays all the time. But a regular job, you generally don't miss your partner's birthday. That's true.

Especially on a whim. Mm-hmm. You know. People would have been mad at Andy if she missed that birthday party to do a garbage truck route. To do a garbage truck route. Yeah. They would be mad at her, you know. And at the end, when after.

After I tell her off, he's like, I do port reductions all day. I'm not like solving diseases, but you're doing a thing that you said you didn't want to do. You're becoming someone you said you didn't like. So I'm holding you accountable for what you said you didn't like. If you wanted to do this, then just own it. Say you want to do it. Say that actually, guys, I'm actually liking it. Actually, guys, I love this job.

Actually, I think I do want to be in fashion. Then we would like, great. Yeah. But like, if you're doing something that you say, that you didn't want to do when you're becoming a different person that you're changing yourself. It's my job as the bestie.

Yes. To tell you and hold you accountable and not enable bad behavior and remind you that this isn't who you are. Yeah. So Lily is a good friend. Yes, she is. So!

I say it. I mean, I'm hard on her, but also I do think it's kind of a racial thing because people just don't like black people being hard on white people. Well, that is true for sure. On white girls. They're like, you're so mean.

I'm like, but if I was a white girl saying it, you probably wouldn't say it. That's true. You love Emily be meeting her. You love Miranda being mean. You love Miranda being. Oh, these are really good points. Yeah.

I'm just saying. But having said all that, I do understand. We are hard on her. She's always like, I didn't have a choice. I had to. My job said they said I had to. You know, I was like, just own it.

Just own it. Yeah. Own a girl. Own a girl. On a girl. On it. Well, thank you so much for coming. Yes, thank you so much for being here.

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