Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata - Nicole's Excited About Turkey Sandwiches

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

Nicole and Sasheer waste no time this week debriefing what they're loving lately - labubus, food shaped candles, real tea (gossip) vs real tea (beverage), how a garden tomato is nature's ketchup, and their unintentionally perfectly compatible chocolate chip cookie preferences.Watch this full video on YouTube and follow below!Follow Nicole: Twitter, Instagram, TikTokFollow Sasheer: Instagram, TikTokLike the show? Rate Best Friends 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts!Have a friendship question for Nicole and Sasheer to solve? Leave us a voicemail at [phone]‬ or write in at [e-mail] Friends is a production of Headgum Studios. Our producer is Allie Kahan. Our executive producer is Anya Kanevskaya. The show is edited, mixed, and engineered by Casey Donahue.This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Best Friends via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a headgum podcast. Hi, Sishie. How are you? I'm good. How are you? Oh, I'm good. We're in the throes of summer. It is the throes of summer. Do you feel like you are in full summer effect? Like, do you feel like you've been summering as much as you could? I really do feel like this year I have summered hard. Yeah.

Do you feel like you've summered hard? I do feel like I've summer pretty hard. Yeah. I've been a good amount of water. Mm-hmm. Like the beach. Yes. Pools.

Yes. Well, I guess I've been in pools. I've been near pools. Yeah, you came to my pool and just sat around. I put my feet in there, fully clothed. Did you wear a bathing suit? I didn't even have the option. Didn't even have the option.

didn't bring one, didn't wear one. But why? Because I just know. You made that choice. Yeah. It's not in me. I'm not a water person. No.

I do like to commune. And I like seeing water and being around it. But yeah, I'm not, I don't really enjoy just being in water. Like, my girlfriend tried to drop me a bath one time. And she's like, there you go. And it was like so, like, there's lavender in it. It smelled great. There are candles.

And she's like, have that it. And she's like, walked away. And I was like, so what uh what do i do i do in here and then i was like are you are you around can you just come back and he's like sat next to me and i was like we just chatted for a bit and i was like i think i want to get out actually that's really funny i drew you a bath it's romantic luxurious you time yeah just have your time you're like me time i want my time just submerged in water okay boring as hell All right.

I will say, I do like a bath, but the water gets so cold so quickly. Yeah. And then you spend a lot of time trying to get the temperature up. And then it's so hot on your dogs. And then you're just like, ah, too hot. And then you're trying to, like, move the water. It's a lot. It's a lot.

Have you ever taken a bath with a partner? I have, yeah. I guess. But again, not very long. I took a bath of that nice boy And we were in it for 10 minutes It was nice for 10 minutes And then I was like, should we get out?

Yeah I was like, yeah But it was a nice big bathtub That's nice Yeah Yeah But yeah For 10 minutes it was really nice

And I was like okay Now we have to live a life If it's one of those ones that have like the jets That's more exciting Yes Because then you can like put your back on a jet And they're like oh I'm getting a massage And you can like move from jet to jet

See what that jet's about over here Yeah, let me see what's this jet about over here Oh, okay, oh this is a good one Okay, okay, it's all the jets Yep, that's been 15 minutes That is funny Because they are, people do like a bath But I'm like, how long are you in there?

I think some people can be there for a long time Because I think people also Some people read in a bath Or they maybe do work or watch something or like those are things you can do outside yeah you could be in the grass you could be in a park you could be yeah you could just be on your couch or you could be inside on your couch in a chair on the floor you don't have to there's so many so many options I just also don't want to wait for the water to fill up it does take forever it takes forever it's a arduous

it is especially if you got a big old tub you got to just let that go for like 20 minutes to half hour. Yeah. And then if you let it go for too long, it overflows. Sometimes. Yeah. Ruins your damn floors. Yes.

That's happened to me many a times in hotels. Oh, okay. So not your flows. Not my floors. Not my problem. Not my problem. You'll find out later that your woods rotten underneath a hotel. Whoopsies.

Oopsies. I watched a lady at the pool the other day. I was at a hotel. and she got into a tube and then she took her book out and then was just in the middle of the pool reading her book. Oh, wow.

I said this lady does not care. This lady doesn't give a shit about her belongings. Because it might get wet. It might get soaking, sopping wet. I also like, it's probably going to get wet because you have to get out somehow. Yes.

Well, I watched her. She handed her book to her partner and then she got out and then, but still it was a lot because she was like, come here. here. And he was like, what? What? She's like, come here. I need you because I want to get out. And he was like,

are you trying to get out? And I was like, oh my God. It's not very relaxing at all. Walk over to her and have that conversation. Also, I was floating around this pool. This man was like about to crash into me. And I was like, I'm steering well. I'm steering away from people. Were you on a tube? It was through a tube. Okay. You know, you're like kind of, the tube is around you like that. And your arms are like that. And he was sitting in it. But through the hole. Okay. And I do think it is a little harder to steer, but as we got close, he was like, hi,

my name's Justin. And I said, okay. He was like, what's your name? I was like, Nicole, you from here? Yes. Me too. And I was like, this sucks. This sucks. I don't want to talk to you, Justin. Oh my God.

It blew me away. That reminds me of when we were at the pool in New Orleans at the hotel. It was like a rooftop pool. And this guy who, you know, he was nice enough. And he like bought us in Prosecco. And he was like, I can't remember why he was in town. But he was like, my whole group left already. And I'm here solo.

And we're like, oh, wow. That's okay. Oh, wow. And then we're like chatting for a little bit. But I think you really wanted to be friends. He really did. We're not here for that. No.

I'm squatting in four feet. feet of water and I don't want to talk to you and I was like covered in a towel because I was like these umbrellas are not hitting me right the sun is directly on me he were all wrapped up and you're just like and then he was like he said something about community and he was like you know growing up gay and I was like oh no we're getting your trauma oh my god okay we just met you this is why your friends left probably they were like oh my god he keeps talking about how sad he was as a kid we accept him now stop going to the past and then there was that child that foreign child build a wall jumping in splashing around how dare there was others in the pool and their parents did

not care it's so annoying i do not like that if you have a child god bless i'm sorry it is your responsibility to not have them annoy everybody yeah it's like not that hard no it's not hey don't Splash. There's other people around. Yep. That's it. Yeah. But I kept saying, hey, no, no. I do that all the time. I will parent your child. Yeah, you have no qualms about parenting other people's kids. I don't care. Mom and I were, we were flying from Greece to Greece and, or maybe it was to Amsterdam. I don't remember, but there was a child just screaming, standing up backwards, screaming at the people behind him. And I said, you down. Get down. And then we were listening to them

and I was trying to figure out what language they spoke so then I could translate to their language your child is a terror and I said it in three different languages I don't know if they got the I don't know if I got the language right then I was on a plane

and there was a child screaming it had no accrued months had no iPad, it had no books and had no toys for a four hour plane ride you didn't bring a single thing to entertain this thing oh my God

it was just screaming I was trying to nap, and it was just like, gna, gna, it was making these noises. I was so upset because I kept waking up to the noise. I was, oh, my God. So then when I got, I was so mad. So then they got off the plane first because, I don't know, people are like, you have kids, and it's hard for you. So then I pretended to be on the phone. I was like, I didn't get any sleep.

There was an annoying family on the plane. The child had no toys. It was awful. And I said it right when I passed them. And then I felt bad later because I was like, I guess it was hard to travel with a child. But they needed to know They needed to know It is well to not have any

Entertainment for the kid That's weird And I get that maybe your kid isn't an iPad kid That's great I love it Legos Fisher Price exists Puzzles something

Get them one of those boxes Where the shapes have to go in the hole And coloring Coloring Oh yeah that's easier That's easier yeah It's much easier That's crayons in a page

I'm like bring all the toys I don't know Yeah It really it made me so mad and honestly I've said it before I'll say it again I would pay extra for a kid

free flight same I don't know why Delta doesn't why do they keep revamping how you earn your miles I don't need that yeah so you want more money have a kid free flight

yes people would pay for that and I'm not a person who's like hide your kids away I don't believe kids should be in but I just think a lot of people don't parent so put them all on that flight yeah

and it might be y'all might have a blast over there yes they might be great for the kids to be able to not feel like they're being shushed all the time or whatever. There was not the same thing, but I saw a video about a

dog plane where people who want to travel with their dogs can like book this private flight and be flown to different I think it's just in the States right now or something or maybe some places in Europe. But it's like yeah, they all are having a great time. The dogs are just chilling. Everyone's

also chilling because they're like my dog It doesn't matter. My dog can play with this dog, no one's mad about it. Exactly. Hey, I don't understand why the airlines aren't listening to this specific episode of the podcast and doing it. We should send it to Ed Bastian. Ed. Oh, Ed, the CEO of Delta. I, yes, I really think they should do it. Yeah. Because sometimes I love a dog. I really do. But sometimes you're on a flight and you're like, this dog is taking up my floor space. The floor. Yeah.

I paid for that part of the floor Also like I've met some like Little slutty dogs that are like They give you those eyes where they're like Don't you want to pet me? And I'm like I kind of don't actually Can you just be with your owner? Like that is very funny It's like come on just a little

Come on and the owner's like they're friendly cool Cool cool I didn't come here to play with a dog I didn't I came to travel I didn't come here to make friends I came here to travel get from point A to point B Exactly

No friends No friends No new friends It is wild That sometimes we just pet Other people's animals Yes

Because I don't know Where that dog has been I don't know if you wash your dog Also As a dog owner You don't know if other people wash their hands Like

You have a dirty ass dog Why don't you tiny get home Mm-hmm I met a dog the other day And I have a luboo on my I love a little bit loboos. And I said to you yesterday, I was like, 90% of America knows what a lobooboo is, and 90% of America does not know what a lobooboo is. And then you were like, wait, what?

I was like, what are these percentages? They're bad. They don't make sense. But I was in the elevator with this dog, and it was like going for my lobooboo because it thought it was a, like, a toy. Yeah. And I said to the owner, I was like, oh, this is so cute. Your dog loves my lobooboo. And she was like, your dog loves my lobooboo. And she was like, get away from me, pervert. That is so funny. She probably did think it was like my pussy or something. No, he doesn't. He does not like your lobooboo.

No. My dog sticks. Stay as out and kind. But I felt crazy explaining the lobooboo to her. Because it was like, it's just a keychain monster. Here, this is my lobobooboo. And she's like, a demon. You trap the curse on me.

They do look like demons. And I love them. I think they're so silly Someone oh yeah We talked to somebody yesterday Who said that I guess NBA players Are now wearing the boo-boos Who owns

Who's doing their like marketing It really feels like there's like a huge push For LaBoo's It's working It is working But it is an artist Who created the Labuboos I think a long time ago

And they just picked up Steam And then Pop Mart sells them I think Pop Mart Pop Mart Pop-Tart Pop Tarts A lot

the Pop-Tart. Pop-Tarts are great. Oh, my God. When I was little, I ate them in such a deranged way. I would toast them up, cut them in half, scrape out the middle. I'd just eat the middle or just eat the outside? Oh, no, I'd eat the outside, too, but I liked it. I liked it separate. That is a little strange. It's unhinged. It's weird. Who eats deconstructed Pop-Tarts? I have never known a person to do that.

Uh-uh. I recently had a frosted one. Mm-hmm. What are we doing to children? Oh, my gosh. It's too sweet. We're jacking it up with sugar for sure. I couldn't believe. I like bit into it and I was like,

this is sick. Yeah. Ew. Yeah. I can't tell if sweetness has increased in products or if I just eat less sugar as an adult. And when I taste something from my childhood, I'm like, oh my God. I don't know. I don't know either.

But sugar's, you know. Not good. It's not good. And apparently our bread is more sugary than, like, European bread. And I was like, that's why I like European bread. Oh, no. That's why I like European bread more. It tastes like it's ready.

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Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what food companies gain by adding sugar to things. Sugar is addictive. That is true. So then you're like, I need more bread. Yeah. I have to get to the store. for more bread.

Oh, God, I need that bread. I used to not be a bread diva. Like, I wouldn't keep bread in my house. Mm-hmm. But I keep making sandwiches. You love a sandwich now? I love a simple sandwich. Mm-hmm.

I toast up that bread in my toaster over... My toaster of been... I don't know. I'm shutting down. Yeah. It's okay. It's right. Because I don't have a toaster.

Because I think they're unnecessary. But now you like bread. Yeah, but I need two or four slots just for bread. My toaster oven is versatile. That's true. She could toast so much. That's true. You know, and she's purple.

She's cute. She's from our place. It's not a sponsor at all. But I really like it. I'm not gaykeeping. And I put the two slices up in there, toast them up, flip them. So both sides get toasted. Oh, I like that.

And I know a toaster oven, or the toaster could do both sides at the, the same time, but I'm not in a rush. So then I take it, I'm taking it out. I used to not like mayonnaise, but a little wetness, never heard anybody. So you put a little mayonnaise. I like QPie. It's Japanese. Oh, I haven't heard of it.

It's nice. Nice. And then you go turkey, a little turkey. Okay. A little tomato from the garden. Oh, if you got it. Nice. And then a little lettuce.

And then you cut it right up. Well, you have to cut it horizontally, because you get more sandwich that way not diagonally oops yes okay diagonal so it's corner to corner yes corner to corner because you get more sandwich and then you just have a really nice time cut up an apple so i sent you a picture and i was like i'm eating like a child yeah this is like a school lunch it is a school lunch and i love it yeah oh my god and oscar mire has has these carved turkeys um It just is carved on it, and it's thick turkey. Oh, that's nice.

It is really, really, really nice that I have people in my life where I tell them insane, mundane things that I'm really into. And they go, wow, Nicole. Oh, that's nice. Oh, I just like that you're so excited about it. It's nice. I love turkey. I just never knew that something so simple could bring me such joy. You bought me a toaster for hot dog buns, but then we left it in a parking garage.

You said, please stop buying me hot dog things. And I said, okay. And now I send you pictures just in case you might say, oh, that one I want. Which I appreciate. Like the sentiments there, like saw this. I was thinking of you. And I'm like, oh, that's funny. And maybe I will be like, I do want that.

Yes. And I'm waiting for that day. Because it's always in my cart. and if you don't respond I'll put it back when I go to Home Goods come on let me load up there's so much like a hot dog so much they had a hot dog candle

you did buy a hot dog candle it has not been lit hey don't light it I won't it's for decor yeah because just just unlit it smells really bad yeah I'm sure it stinks when you light it I bought a hamburger candle from Home Goods and she was like do you like how it smells and I was like bitch this is decor I'm not

going to light it. I'm not opening this up. And then she said, I think it smells like a hot or a hamburger. And I was like, yeah, then I'm definitely not lighting it. What, I want to sit in my living room smelling like hamburg? Yeah, that's nasty. Ugh. Oh, my God. It's a sheer. I had a tomato from the garden.

Okay. Or from the farm. Yeah. And it was such a sweet tomato. Ooh. I didn't eat ketchup on my hamburger. Well, look at that. That's so good. That's what ketchup is trying to emulate. As I was eating it, I screamed, this is nature's ketchup.

And it is. And it is. It really made me happy. And I got some tomatoes of brew and I got five on the vine. Oh my goodness. Five heirlooms. That's a good harvest. I know.

I can't wait. Yeah. I'm excited for you. Thank you. And then my strawberries, I had to start over because we ran into an issue, but I think they're, I think they're going to survive. I think it's going to be good. I don't think you have to repot anything. Yeah.

Great I love being a farmer I have figs in my yard I have a fig tree but I don't know when they are ready to be picked and I've never had one from my tree but I should

You should I do like figs Well I like the flavor of fig I don't know You like a Fig Newton I do like a Fig Newton I do like a Fig Newton That's insane

Fig Newton's the worst one What? Fig Newton's Triscets Yuck Fig Nunes are so thick Yeah, but they have that, like, nice feeling in the middle. I just think it's like you're just chewing, and I think that becomes your job when you eat a fig Newton or a trisket. Like, what am I, a chewer?

Yeah, and I'm not. Yeah. I'm a person who chews and gets going. I got places to be, I can't chew all day. Truly. Do you like triscuits? No. No, they're bad.

Yeah. What's another snack that you really like? Mm-mm. What else do you? Do I eat? I mean, I like tortilla chips and salsa. Mmm, that is a nice snack. Or hummus and pita.

Or hummus and pita chips. I can't eat too much hummus. It runs right through me. Oh, okay. I ate so many M&Ms the other day. I made myself sick. I, yeah, I have such a sweet tooth that I try not to have sweets in the house because I'll just finish it. I'll just finish all of it.

I just don't understand how I, did it as a child I could eat sweets all day every day and like live my life yeah I had 22 M&Ms and almost died yeah it was bad I was like oh no I was like I think I have a headache I'm only thirsty oh no like I was not okay yeah but I couldn't stop eating them oh no because addicted yeah and now there's cookies in my house left over from the 4th of July and we're pretty far out from the 4th of July actually And I accidentally left the lid kind of a jar. Oh, no.

So now they're stale. Oh, no. And I ate one yesterday. Why? Because you didn't want to waste the cookies? It was so bad. What if you warm it up in the toaster oven? Mm.

She is versatile. I love a warm cookie. I also love a warm cookie. Yeah. Ugh. I had a warm cookie yesterday. Yeah. There was more cookie than chips.

They claimed it was a chocolate chip cookie. Barely any chips. was not a chocolate chip cookie yeah it was cookie with a whisper of chocolate then that was my gang because i got to eat more cookie and you were also eating cookie like someone was going to take it from you and i had to remind you that i was like i'm discarding this piece of cookie because you kept going it was really funny i just wanted someone to throw it away before before i got to it and it would have been devastating it would have yeah did you eat your leftovers i didn't And I don't know if I will.

It's so much. It is a lot. My tummy was kind of rumbly yesterday. Oh, no. I don't know if it was from that meal or an earlier meal. But I was like, I don't know. I don't know. Well, you did have a lot of cheese.

Are you cheese sensitive? Probably. I mean, we all kind of are. Yes. I haven't, I'm not like officially lactose intolerant, but I probably shouldn't eat that much cheese, you know. When I got home I had an epiphany I said I ordered the barata toast as a starter

And I share it I don't want to share it I just want to eat it Yeah And I just want a bite of someone's meat So you didn't need the whole meal No You just needed the barata

I just needed that barata And just you know a piece of your chicken I would have gladly given you a piece of my chicken And I think that's what we have to do next time Okay We need to strategize Yes It was too much food

It was so much food Well, we each ordered half a chicken. And then it turned out to be a whole chicken. Our friend Tessa was with us and she kept me like, whole chicken! It really made me teahee-he. Yeah. Oh, my God. But that barata toast, they took it off the menu for a minute.

Mm-hmm. It's back. I was really upset about it. I remember. I said, well, what exactly am I supposed to order here? Mm-hmm. If you don't have my favorite, what am I doing? Beats me.

you know what I think my order has to be the barata toast and the steak so then I can put steak on the barata and then give the rest of the steak that I don't eat to everybody else oh I like that well well well figured out my order for the next time we eat at this restaurant we go to all the time yeah but I say we'll beat it very soon I'm sure probably I mean I am craving that barata toast again yeah it's great I love eating the same thing over and over over and over again until my brain goes, well, can't eat that again. Mm-hmm. But I do come back around. I did take a, I've taken many tests about like my food intolerances

and gluten's always on the list. Mm-hmm. It's not like I can't have it, so it's like I probably shouldn't. Mm-hmm. And then I saw this spiritual advisor that you recommended to me. He's great.

He's great. And within the reading, he was like, you should probably watch your food intolerances. And honestly, that's the first time I was like, you're right doctors were like

you should probably for your thyroid you should probably just watch this and I'm like but I just love pasta and this guy's like he wasn't even specific just like watch the intolerance just watch them I was like okay that's really funny

but I also feel the same way sometimes where I'm like yeah whatever so what you went to medical school this person talked to my dead mom yeah I'm listening to them they have input from from the other realms yeah exactly

I agree I do love spiritual readings I love all that stuff and my therapist is she's good I like her a lot but whenever I tell her things like that

she's always like ooh what did they say and I can't decide if she's another person in my life who's like I'm not really interested but she seems interested I'll let her talk about it that's what a therapist should do

yeah definitely Even if they don't understand, they're just like, go for it, tell me, tell me all about it. Yeah, but I feel like sometimes therapists be judging. Well, they're human. I'm only human. After all. Yeah, I know that song. Who sings it?

I'm only human. Don't lay the blame on me. Who is that? I don't know. I have no idea. I'm only human. Uh, it is by rag and bone man. No.

I'm sorry. Maybe that's not the right wine. Wait, you got a workshop that name. Raggin bone man? I know rag and bone the, like. I know bone thugs in harmony. Ragging bone man. Rag and bone is like a clothing brand.

Oh, yes, it is. And I guess he's a man. The man, they made a man. He was like, I love those clothes. much. Hey, who was that? Ragged Bone Man? Wow. It's like a bad burn for one of his friends. You're always doing a rag and bone man. He's like, I am. I am the Rag and Bone Man. Wow, that's a wild name and nothing could have expected. Nothing could have prepared me for that. Oh, it's Raggin Bone Man. What? That's wild. I wonder if he has any other song, any other songs that we know.

maybe it's also like it just like there's so many words like the name kept going and I thought it was done it was like wrecked boat man and coming to the stage

it's rag and bone man it is oh oh oh oh oh oh oh it is really long wow stage names are really

if you think about it yeah we casually call a woman lady Gaga yeah that's fun it is very fun madonna mm-hmm hmm who are others this is nuts I cannot think of any other stage names sting yeah that's a crazy name's a crazy name Dave Matthews wild well that's I think this is really only I'm kidding I'm kidding Beyonce That's her name That's her name Beyonce Giselle Knowles

Mm-hmm It is It's funny because Yeah A name is Is only ridiculous Until it gets popular Like beetles

Yeah Bad pun Like It's a pun Like beat Like a beat Like a beat Really

Did everyone else know this Is this common knowledge? I think so. Yeah. Whoa. I genuinely know nothing about the Beatles. Yeah.

So the song, Come Together right now. Tina Turner did a cover of it. And I remember hearing the Beatles version for the first time because I heard the Tina version first. And I don't remember who I was with, but I was like, and this is before I understood what covers were I said I cannot believe these white men stole from a black artist and they were like what

it's a cover and I was like well they stole it from Tina Turner and they were like no Tina did a cover from the Beatles and I was like well all right I guess I don't know anything and I guess I don't it's a pun

beat Beatles yeah that's that's it that's the extent of it I did see a tweet that was like about that song where they're like, what were the Beatles thinking when they said, come together right now over me? What's? It's a circle jerk and you're in the middle.

And you're going, come together right now. Over me. I think so. No. Oh, so now I'm wrong. Now I don't know anything about the Beatles. You still don't know anything of the Beatles. You didn't before.

I don't know. I sure don't. I have no idea what that song means. I just, I mean, I found out within the last couple years that songs had meaning. What do you mean? What do you mean? What did you think was happening? I have never heard such despair in your voice.

You were like, are you sick? What's happening? Your brain? I guess I just thought songs were just like words. It sounded nice together or whatever. And I And then, like, someone was like, oh, this song is about. And I was like, what?

I was like, songs are about things? I mean, some songs are very literal where it's like, we broke up, you broke my heart, we got back together. Yeah, like that Taylor Swift song. I understand that's about them never getting back together. Yes. Because she says, we are never, ever getting back together. I guess some lyrics are more like a little poet. poetic. What is abracadabra about? A magician? You know, I've never dissected that. See? I have no

clue. See? Let's figure it out after the break. And we're back. I got my detective hat on. What is poker face about? I would assume, well, a poker face is like, you're not showing your hand. You're not like, you're like kind of being a little elusive. So maybe she's like hiding something or being sneaky or something. Okay. What is, but I also do you think Lady Gaga write songs, probably how you would write songs

if you wrote songs by sound. Like, yeah, give me a pop, pop, pop, pop up, pot per capita face. Automatopoeia. Come on. Apricadabra. It's like, what's fun in my mouth. Yeah. And I feel that's why I like. lady gaga so much what is um halo about uh i i can see your halo you know is it about like you're so

angelic or is or did somebody die oh i don't actually know i don't know either but it's so crazy that every song out there is about something definitely alie what were you going to say oh i was going to say, I just looked it up. I'm going to butcher his name because I'm realizing I've never said it out. Is a rag and bone man? Ray Lamont Tain, like Ray Lamont? Ray Ramano?

Ray Romano? Everyone loves Raymond? He's the guy who sings slow songs that are in like early odds rom-coms a lot. Ray Lamontang I think is how you say it. He's the inspiration for Halo. He's the inspiration for Haylon. Yeah, they

the songwriter suggested to Beyonce that they create a song in the style of one of Ray's other songs and then Jay-Z said, what if we call it Halo? Okay. Okay. After hearing it the angelic chords.

That's really interesting that this really beautiful slow song is just about a man from the early odds. What is that about him? It's like inspired by him. Oh, man. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Understanding songs is hard for me right now. oh my god we get knocked down but we yeah that's about like perseverance yeah

i do miss again physical media i do miss like buying a CD and then like looking at all the album art and then reading the lyrics yes which i could read lyrics on youtube on on spotify but i'm not going to i think we need to lead the charge yeah with physical media coming back okay because I have a record player now look at that it's not hooked up to anything okay I'm not sure how to put it together right the instructions were kind of hard I've learned I'm really a visual learner if you give me directions via words it will go in one ear and out the other and I'll be like yeah but if you use like your hands or you're like if you go this what like if you just make it more visual I can I can get it I can understand it

okay um but yeah reading the words of how to set this up. I said, ah, no, this stinks. I put a table together from IKEA and it had zero words and just pictures and I was like, this is great. Yes, I can do IKEA stuff. Stuff from Wayfair is very easy because a lot of times it's like, it shows you the parts and you're like, this next to this and this does. And I'm like, all right, we're rocking and rolling. Rocking and rolling. Yeah. Yeah, pictures help. I'm thinking of more songs. Okay, just in general. Boots are made for walking. I guess she got a new pair of shoes.

Yeah, is that all? It's about, I guess. And that's just what they'll do. One of these days, these boots are going to walk all over. She's killing. She bought new shoes and she's going to kill someone. These are murder boots. Yeah, because she's going to bury you and walk all over you.

That's a subtext. Wow, I didn't realize. I don't know. She's a little detective. Nancy Sinatra, baby. My goodness. I did that once for a. talent show. These boots are made for walking and my mother loved her. She was cheap. She did not

buy us boots. She just made boot coverings. Smart woman though. Just buy me white boots. I'll wear them again. I promise. I wanted new boots so bad. They even saying about it. Yes. And instead she made these boot coverings and I was like, God, lady. I'm sorry. Get a coupon. Take me to Sears. But maybe she was convinced, how old were you? Young. Because maybe she was like, you're going to grow out of them. What's the point of you getting child boots? And then, just buy me boots.

Please. Do you have boots now? I have so many pairs of boots now. I have so many things. I don't deny myself anything because that woman did. Well, great. But yeah, it just didn't make any sense to me. I was like, just buy the boots.

And then another talent show we did was, brown-eyed girl and do you ever have like a memory of something where you're like I guess I'll just remember this forever because it was you're my brown-eyed girl and then we like wiggled her a little hip forever we'll remember that that's fun yeah what if I have one of those yeah what's a memory you have just a memory I have and then I want to know what your first memory is whoa okay what's a memory I have oh and okay so I went to a Christian school for first and second grade and we had to sing like Christian songs and there was a song that was like Jesus loves his little children all the children of the world red and yellow black and white

they are delicious in his delicious I don't know I don't know I don't know Yeah, but I can't, we did some sort of motion for red, red and yellow, black, and white, but I can't remember anymore. So I guess I don't really remember them. Hey, listen, no, that was good. Thanks. It was a memory. That's a memory, yes. Yes.

And my first memory. Red, yellow, black, and white is insane. That's just, that's all the people. That's wild. That's a wild way to categorize them. We miss brown people. They're black. I guess.

But that's crazy. Red? Who's red? Are they referring to indigenous people? They might be referring to indigenous people. Yikes, that song's canceled. Jesus would love that. No.

Yellow? That's tough. That's tough. It's really funny. Black and white are the only good ones. Yeah, at least we still say them. Yeah. But it's very funny.

They're like, we got it. We've got everybody in there. Everybody's in there. You're either red, yellow, blood, and white. That's wild. And we all just freely saying that if you grew up in a Christian household, because I remember singing that. Yeah. Yeah.

One of my earliest memories is falling into a pool. My mom thought it was really important for us to learn how to swim, which I think was good. and I remember being really tiny because I remember I had a bathing suit with like a little skirt on it and we got to wear floaties in the class and I remember she sat us along the edge of the pool and she said do not lean into the pool

and then this woman turned her back on a bunch of little kids to get the floaties and I remember going well why not and I was like I got to touch the water and then I tumbled in and then I was like this was a mistake and I remember looking up and I was like

it's so bright outside that's where I should be And then I was like, what if I breathe? And then I started breathing, and I was like, pool, that was even worse. And then I remember being like, I think that's it. Oh, my God. And then she, like, took me out of the water.

And I remember being kind of like a rag doll. Like, I was just like limp. And then she, like, sat me down. And then she was, like, screaming at me. And I was just like, hey, lady, I just wanted to touch the water. You know, scream. I almost drowned. Yeah, I think, yeah.

This was traumatic enough without you yelling at me. Yeah. But I distinctly remember that. And I remember from that day on, I was like, I like water. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Yeah, that your instinct wasn't to be like, water's dangerous. You were like, I was like, I got to do that again.

Interesting. This is not one of my earliest memories, but I do remember I used to be on a swim team, which I know does not make sense because I don't know this one. Sure doesn't. But I used to be in the swim team in my elementary school. In your elementary school? Yeah. I am constantly floored by how every school in America is different.

We didn't have teams in elementary school We didn't have a pool in elementary school Well maybe it was not part of the school Maybe I was in elementary school And there was like a separate team from the school It could have been in the school Betsy was telling me in her school They went skiing and I was like, what thought what?

Wow wild Anyway Anyway, keep going I I remember I maybe I ate a snack Before I got in the pool Or maybe directly after getting out and my stomach hurt so bad and I was like I feel like I'm dying and my mom took me to

the hospital and they did an x-ray and it was just gas hmm you're like you probably ate too fast oh no I was like oh we came all away for this that's funny that we can see gas on an x-ray yeah I don't know what it looks like but they're like showed it to you they probably did but I don't remember what it looks like were you embarrassed yes I was like I was like I thought die. I don't even remember what my mom was responsible. I probably was like, this is a waste of money. It's gassy kid. This gassy kid!

This little farter. I wonder if they could have helped you though. Like squeezed you? I think I just need to like do a squat or like put my butt in the air. Put your butt in the air. Have you ever done that? No. Or you like put your head lower than your butt. So either like on your

knees with your butt in the air or standing to do a straight bend at the hips. And that helps with gas? Helps me. Huh. Y'all ever put your butt in the air? Yeah, y'all ever throw it back?

Face down, ass up. This is wild. I'm learning so much. Yeah. The Beatles really got me. I can't believe. Yeah. But now I know to put my butt in the air

if I'm feeling a little gassy? I don't know the science behind it, but I do think it helps with the flow of air. Getting it out of there. Interesting. I have a question. I'm changing the subject, but it's still on bodies. Okay. So you have a period tracker, right?

Yes. I have a period tracker. Do you know if there's a setting on it for it to send me an alert to be like, it's coming? I'm sure there is. It's probably like under notifications or something. Oh. All right. I got to set it.

Because I keep acting crazy and then being like, oh, my God. Why was that so crazy? And then I'm like, oh, my period came. Sometimes I have moments like that where I feel like a lot of emotions. I'm like, my period must be tomorrow. And I check the app and I'm like, 10 days. It's like not even close. What happened?

That's bodies. That's just bodies. Bodies are wild. Where do you think they get the bodies for the body exhibit in New York City? I know, I think. You can choose to donate your body when you die And just like to science And then that's one of the avenues that it could go towards

But it's a, you have such a small shot of being a museum body Oh It's really competitive What are they looking for? Yeah, what are they like juicy inners? Juicy ears? I don't know I read a book about cadavers last year Oh

Because I was like what well I guess I was planning And planning this is a museum I was like, what should I do? And so most people, when they donate their body to science, they're thinking that they're going to be like a museum exhibit. Like 95% you're like a crash dummy body for safety things. Whoa. I did not know that.

Imagine you die and you're like, maybe I'll go on tour with the bodies exhibit. And then you're just sitting in a Volvo being crashed. That's sad. That is sad. That's really sad. Yeah. Yikes. But that is a good goal to be like, I want to be at my peak.

Yeah, peak physical forms. They put me in a museum. My body's so great to display it. But how is that exhibit not stinky? Are they like beef jerky people? Like, have they jerkied them? Because you can like see the muscles and stuff. So I'm like, how do they, how?

I assumed it was like encased or something. Oh. out for us to see. I've never been. I also haven't. I've just seen the signs. And then they use formaldehyde, so like everything is also, it's pretty much jerkied. Oh. Wow. Yeah. Well, interesting. And do they rotate the bodies or the same bodies from like 10 years ago? That, that I don't know. That's a good question. I'd assume they'd be rotating, but. And I wonder if they feature body diversity. I wonder. I would hope so. You know, short people, big people. Mm-hmm.

Dirkantic people. Speaking of big people, I was in an elevator. This was maybe me. There was a really tall man in the elevator, and he, like, joined it in our conversation. We were ha, ha, ha, and we got off the elevator. I went, good night, André. And he went. He said, good night.

And then as the door is closed, I went, but did you get it? Because she said tall, and he went, yep. And then the people I was with were like, why did you do that? And I was like, we were all having a nice time, no? Oh, no. Well, you were. And then I ruined his night. Yeah.

If you're listening, I'm sorry. I felt really, I woke up the next morning. I was like, what's wrong with me? Why did I, why did I do? that. Yeah, you don't know this person at all. Sure don't, but we were like laughing. We were going up the floors. We were like, ha, ha, ha, ha. Good night, Andre. Get it? Because you're so tall. Did you get it? Maybe he thought it was funny. I don't know. But I'm sure he gets a lot of tall jokes.

Yeah. Yeah. I kind of watched the light go out from his eyes. I think he was like finally accepted for me. I was like, uh-uh, you're too big. You thought I didn't notice? You're tall. You're so tall. You're different from the rest of us. You're different. Our air is different than yours.

Wow. Should we do questions? Yeah. Let's do questions. Do you think we have questions other than people miss us? Yeah. That would be funny if we just kept doing that forever. Like, wow, thank you for the compliments.

We're here. We're here. We're here. Is that your neck? Was that loud? Yeah. Were you worried? Yeah.

I'm fine. Oh my gosh. Your head just goes like. Oh, boy. Have you seen Death Becomes Her? I saw the musical. I tried to watch the movie to prep for it. And then I fell asleep and my rental expired.

So I need to rent it again and watch it. I own it. Oh, great. Oh, yeah. We tried watching it one Halloween, and our good friend Tess just kept talking. And I think I fell asleep, too. But just because I fall asleep. You love falling asleep.

If we're not at the cinema, you're sleeping. It's true. Which is really interesting. Is it because you don't know the seat at the cinema? This is not my seat. I don't know this chair. Is that why? It might be.

It's a stranger chair. I have to see alert. I don't know what's going to happen. So it might get me. Yeah, but at home or on any couch, I think I feel so comfortable. I'm just like conked out. It is pretty funny. Because sometimes very excitedly we'll leave a place and you're like, do you want to like go back to your place and watch a movie?

And I'm like, yes. And then we'll sit down. You'll find a blanket from not the couch. You always pull a blanket from somewhere else. And then my dog will crawl up on you. And then you'll be like, press play. And I'll press play. And I'm like, oh, hey, it's a cheer.

And you're like, and I'm like, how? How so you fall asleep so fast. Which is like infuriating because I don't do that in my bed. I wish I could fall asleep. so fast in my bed. I'm just like wide awake, but like on anyone else's couch, on my couch. But I feel like when we share a hotel rooms, you fall asleep really fast. Oh, interesting.

Maybe. Because I'm always, I'm up. Yeah. I cannot fall asleep. Mm-hmm. It's so hard. It's so hard. It's just so hard.

It's just so hard. Yeah. It's like my crust to bear. I'm just like, uh. Just like awake. It's just awake. Like yesterday, I was up from 5 a.m. until midnight, and then I couldn't sleep.

So rude. I was exhausted. I hate that when your body's like, I need sleep, but I just can't. Can't, can't do it. What if something fun's happening? Nothing fun is happening. No, the day's done. Done.

No, I don't need a biscoff cookie. That's what I did last night. I went downstairs and had me a biscoff. You know I love my sky snacks on land. I love biscofs. All terrain. They are an all-terrain snack. And I think the thing I like best about Obisgoth is like the journey it takes in your mouth.

Oh. Because you bite into it and it's one of the driest things you've ever had and it sucks all the moisture out of your mouth and then you get to mush it up. Now that sounds like a bad thing. Yeah, but I'm having a nice time. And then I heard you go dip it in like coffee and it's good. Have you? No. Okay.

I like the way I enjoy them. Nice. What are our questions, Allie? Okay. This one is called What Would You Do from Anonymous? What would you do? Wait, from Anonymous, the organization? They know us.

Okay. If you knew a close friend's husband cheated before they were married but they were still dating and the person that they cheated on them with is a close friend that's still in the group, would you tell even if it was an oopsie-dazy one-time slip-up? I don't think there's slip-ups. I think it's a, like, I've never been like with someone, I've been like, oh my God, wow, we kissed. That was so, I can't believe. Yeah. I can't believe we're in a bed. What?

You're inside me? What is that? Like, no. For me, it's like a thing that it happens and it's like, I'm cognizant of it. Yeah. I would spill the beans. Hmm. That's a weird phrase.

Spill the beans. Who spilled the beans? Yeah, who first spilled the beans? And they're like, oh, you just do spilled the beans. Do you think someone was carrying a bowl of beans? And then they tripped and they spilled and they were like, Susie's cheating with Greg. And they're like, whoa, you really spilled the beans.

I hope that's how it happened. Historians suggest that that idiom might have been originated from an ancient Greek voting method where beans were used. used to cast votes. Wow. That's wild. I like that. Also, the timing on that. Yeah. You're fast thingies. Wow. That was great.

I think it's not my business. But if it's like our friend group, it's a bit tough. It is tough. Did they say how long the couple has been married? Yeah. They said for a couple of years and that this is like third round of telephone information.

So they're not sure that it's substantial enough to tell the person because then they'd have to connect all the conversational dots. Okay. Not spilling the beans. Yeah. Beans stay in the bowl. Because if it's telephone and it's from this person, this person, this person, I don't actually know the truth.

One. Two, if they've been married for a couple of years, this might be a thing that they've already spoken about. I would hope so. And that they're already on the same page with. It was a mistake, and I'm sorry, you forgive me, great, we're good. Yeah, I agree. It's not my business, and that's actually really it.

It's not my business. Hopefully they figure it out, but yeah. And also, it's really kind of up to the people who cheated. They should be the ones telling the friend, what's up. And they might have already done it. Yeah. They might have be, because sometimes, like, you're not the main character in the story. Yeah.

They are. The main characters might have gotten together. Yeah. A little combo. Also, if you spill the beans, you're going to have to tell how you got the beans. Yeah. And now you're outing other friends who spilled the beans. And they're never going to give you beans again.

No. And that's, oh, that's another good point. I love beans. I love when people tell me, you know, the information. The tea, whatever. Speaking of which, I said to you once, not too long ago, I have tea for you. And you said, well, I'm leaving my house shortly. I can drive by and get it.

And I was like, what? What? No, gossip. And you were... This is what I mean. I feel like I'm getting older. And it happened twice in one week. Yes.

I'm like, wait, but I know the term tea. But for some reason, I was like, I thought you meant literal drinkable tea. And I'm like, that's so sweet. You bought me tea. and it blew me away that you're like today I'm gonna get it today I'm like what kind of tea did you think I had? I don't know from your travels

I got some good Phoenix tea for you I was like oh I'll come pick it up thank you it was so funny but sorry I interrupted you but yeah you're right because those people will stop telling you things and I love gossip

yeah oh my god I love knowing things about people yeah I say don't tell Solved. Is there another one? Yeah, of course. Okay, this is from Mark. I'm a new listener of the pod after seeing a bunch of funny clips on Instagram and felt in love. I have a crush on my college roommate with whom I've become close friends with since meeting them three months ago.

They're funny, smart, caring, and not to mention cute. But I know I have no chance with them because they don't have crushes on people, which is understandable. My question is, what should I do to get over the situation? normally I would just tell them get rejected and move on but I can't do that because we're roommates I want to stay friends and not make us rooming together awkward so wanted to see what y'all thought thank you so much and hope you have a good day first of all we got to change that mindset that you tell them how you feel get rejected move on that might be your past that's not your truth yeah I like that I think we got a magical thinking a little bit also if that's this person's

mode like in there in college I'm very impressed that you have been consistently telling people how you feel yes that's great communication so long to figure out how to do that like like the fact that you're already in a place where you feel comfortable enough to be like hey here's the truth yeah I like you thoughts you know like how you feeling that's great that you're at that place and sometimes it will work sometimes it'll be reciprocated so yeah I that's amazing and yeah you don't know because maybe they feel the same way. Maybe they do. I will say I would wait towards the end of the marking period. Semester? Sure. What's a marking period? I don't know.

Does that when you get grades or something? I don't know. I didn't go to college. I went to acting skewer. But I would wait till the end where like the roommate time is done. done and then maybe tell them how you feel yeah it's such a risk because like yeah if the feelings aren't reciprocated and it might be awkward and you live with this person and you might have months to go and mm-hmm because you never know how the other person's going to react because they might just be like oh cool I actually don't feel the same way but we're still cool or they might be like whoa what and then like be weird about it yeah so I say wait till wait till the roomating ends. And I do think, just tell them how you feel. I think that's okay. Yeah.

You're in college. Have fun. Have fun. Experiment. Tell people how you feel. But I do need you to change your mindset. Yeah. Yeah. You know, people will reciprocate feelings. There's somebody out there for everybody. I think. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. Solved. Want to do one more? Yes, please. Hey, this is from Rebecca. BFF. breakup. Hi all, my BFF and I recently broke up. I'm heartbroken, but I know in time I will feel relieved given how it all went down. My question is, how would you lift your spirits? Love the laughs you bring to us with this podcast. Hmm. How would I lift my spirits? Opening that front door of your home. Okay. Getting outside. Yeah. Doing shit helps. Definitely. Doing shit helps. Being around

other people helps, even just like sitting in a park with a friend and having like a, like a wine picnic where each of you bring two or three fun things that you're like, I would like you to taste this or gathering a group of people and going roller skating. Like I truly think making plans and being the planner because then you have to organize and it keeps your mind off of, you know, thoughts of being sad. I think that's really helpful. Yeah. And I think it's also a nice visual that you have other people in your circle.

Like maybe look to your other community. It is a huge blow to feel like, oh, like my best friend, like the person that I was like, you know, giving so much energy to you, I can't anymore. But, you know, hopefully you still have other people in your circle who feel good to you. and you know you don't have to immediately make one your best friend but just feel like okay I do have love around me I do have community yes we love community and fellowship yes fellowship with your community and um yeah I think eventually the hurt won't be so big honestly time helps too yeah time does help yeah time doesn't heal but time gives distance is what I like to say speaking of fellowship we saw sinners and that vampire was like, I'll just want a fellowship. And I was like, that would have gotten me. I would have said, I'll come outside. Sign me up.

Sign me up. I'll do it. Also, they were dancing. They were having a good time. It was a good life. I was like, I like this, live forever and just dance with this Irishman. Come on. But also a thing I did, I went through a breakup with, it wasn't a friendship breakup,

but I would write down my feelings that. Like, if I was like so in my feelings, I would write down what's true and what have I made up and then been like okay so this is what I know is true so this is how I'm actually feeling and I think it's really helpful to understand that like you know you're like that person's out there

they're making new friends and it's like you're making that up you don't know they might just be you know just as sad as you are it's true and you just got to take care of no moreau no no more oh no the way I did say it was unhinged yeah yeah I like that though that is very smart because yeah it's very easy to spiral by yourself and be like you know they're living a

great life and i'm the only one sad they're living levita loka and i'm all by myself seligion seems like on the up and up yeah she's been posted on instagram doing fun things she's having a great time yeah well she has stiff person syndrome but she does been getting out there more that's what it seems so maybe it's better i'm happy for her me too solved All right. I think that's it for this episode. I believe so, too. Well, Sashir, this has been really nice.

This has been very nice. Good fellowshiping with you. Yes, good fellowshiping with you. And now we'll go to our separate homes and separate things. Yes. All right. Okay. Well, well, hey.

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