Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata - Sasheer Has 20/20 Vision

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

This week, Nicole and Sasheer chat about Waymos (aka Vin Voms), reminisce about visiting a dangerous waterfall, practice eye strengthening exercises and make plans to go off-roading AND to the library in the same day. They also take a quiz to figure out what mystical creature they are!QUIZ: https://www.buzzfeed.com/laughingbunny255/venture-through-a-mystical-forest-and-ill-say-if-fpjxac53e8Watch this full video on YouTube and follow below!Follow Nicole: Twitter, Instagram, TikTokFollow Sasheer: Instagram, TikTokLike the show? Rate Best Friends 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts!Have a friendship question for Nicole and Sasheer to solve? Leave us a voicemail at [phone]‬ or write in at [e-mail] Friends is a production of Headgum Studios. Our producer is Allie Kahan. Our executive producer is Anya Kanevskaya. The show is edited, mixed, and engineered by Richelle Chen.This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Best Friends via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a headgum podcast. Hello, Sashir. I'm from Nicole. This is a lovely sweater. Thank you. I've had it for a really long time and I haven't worn it. I don't know if I've seen it. I can't remember where I got it.

It's definitely secondhand. But yeah, it's time to break it out. Break it out. It's so cute. Thank you. Oh my God. The saga of my clothing journey. Yeah.

I got rid of so much fucking clothing. And the woman I brought it to who's reselling it for me, she was like, oh my God, this stuff is in pristine condition. I was like, wow, it is. It really, really is. Because I've collected so much clothing over the years that, like, I don't wear all of it a ton. Yeah. But, like, the pieces I do wear a ton, even those I take very good care of, like, if there's a hint of a design or, like, something fixed to it, I'm washing it on delicate.

I'm not putting it in the dryer. I am laying it flat. I don't even hang dry. Oh, I don't want point. Points from a hangar up in there? No, no, no. I'm laying that flat. Lay it flat.

Okay? She takes care of her clothes. I do. Yeah. It's a... I didn't realize it was like a full-blown... I don't want to say a dick. Hobby.

Like the hunt for it, the finding it, the taking care of it. Yeah. Because I don't want it to get ruined. She's a collector. I'm a collector, darling. And I recently went to this... I think I told you this. I went to this thrift store that I really, really like.

It's called Catnip Collective in Burbank. And it's next to another one. I think it's called, I don't remember the name of that one, but it's two really incredible stores. But Cat Nip Coalition has a cat in there. There is a sign outside that says, we have a cat inside. There's a sign inside that's like, make sure you close that door. There's a cat. I am deeply allergic to cats and I said, that cat won't get me.

That cat got me, gal. Yeah. Oh my God. I also tried stuff on. I spent like two hours in that store, but I did get some really good shit. Okay. It started my new passion, which is vintage jewelry. Great.

I like this. So sheer, I didn't wear it because I was running late. Yeah. And I've been like wearing all my rings and stuff as of late if I have the time. But I got these two incredible vintage watches there. And I'm not gatekeeping because I want more people to patronize vintage stores in in person. Yeah.

Because I love them and I don't want them to go away. I agree. Two of the most incredible fucking watches I've ever found at a very reasonable price. And then I went to this place on the west side, which I can't remember. And I found this incredible ring. And I was like, ugh. It's begun. It's begun.

It's begun. Do the watches work? The watches work. Have I set them to the correct time? Absolutely not. Yeah. But they work. I have some vintage watches that I keep meaning to, like, get batteries for.

But then I'm like, will I actually use it? I think if you have batteries for them, maybe. Or maybe do a dry run where they just don't have the correct time. That's true. I could just wear them. Yeah. But we can set a date because I need, I want to get an extra link for it. And I didn't want to go on Amazon because I was like, I want someone to like look me in the eyes and tell me it's a good product.

Yeah. I'm at that stage in my life where I want someone to go, it's good. And I go, is it? Look me and tell me, this is good. Because Amazon be lying in your face. They don't got eyes. Amazon does not have eyes. They just say, it's good, buy it.

And there's a bunch of reviews. And they don't have eyes. I don't know if they're real. Sometimes they're not real. And sometimes I'll see Amazon reviews where it's like, this is not even the product I bought. I bought something. and they sent me a fake version of it. Yes.

Which else was like, what business is that? I don't know. Famously, I say famously, Emily Heller, one of my favorite tweets, she ordered a mat and it was supposed to have those little green spikes like fake grass or whatever. And it was just a picture of one of those masks on the mat. That's crazy. That's crazy. Nobody looked her in the eyes and said, this is the product I'm selling you.

You need eyes. We need eyes. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I've also been trying to like figure out where vintage jewelry lives. I have jewelry cleaner now. Ooh, yes. Because I realized I'm disgusting.

I don't clean my earrings as often as I should. So now I do peroxide every two days with them. But then every month I take them out and let them sit in the jewelry cleaner. That's great. Thank you. I'm working on me. Yeah. And I was like, oh, well, if I do them with my earrings, if I buy vintage jewelry,

you can polish that shit right up. Absolutely. Look at her. And then I've already found, so I found that ring. and then I also found this really pretty bracelet but big old X is on it and I'm gonna wear it and when I get mad at somebody I'm gonna go

no three strikes and you're out what I'm saying is I want to be interactive with everything I'm wearing she's got buttons and things to let you know how I feel I like that I just got I picked up my clothes from

sway this place they do a community dieback Yes. And it's so cool. I had some white shirts that had some pit stains because I was wearing them a lot. Pit stains. I'm a sweaty bitch. And I was like, oh, man.

I was like, but I don't want to get rid of them. And I was like, ooh, I can make them like fun colors. And then they have these like tie-dye options. They change the colors that they die every month. And they look so cool. And I was like, I'm definitely going to wear these now. I love that. Yeah.

I think I have some. White is really hard to keep. crispy. Yes, definitely. My God. It's hard. It's so hard. But then you can just dye it. Even if it's not white. I had like this lavender sweatsuit that I loved, but it got stains all

over it because that was my fault. I put it in a wash with darker purple stuff and it got ruined. But then I just got a dyed dark purple and I wear it all the time. And I saw it and I was like, oh my God, that color is so rich and beautiful and you were like, it was dark. It was died. I have

these overalls that I really, really like, that I really want to get died. So I need to, next time you go, please invite me. I'd like to come. Also, were you going to pitch us going on a watch date? Yes. Let's do it. Yes.

That was the slowest high five ever. Why did you go so high? It's because I failed halfway through. I said maybe if I go too high, she won't reach it. And then I forgot you have the longest arms in America. Oh, I can reach it. Oh, I can reach it. Oh, I can reach it.

But we also have to wear our creamy girl look. So we need the Creamy Sisters? That's what it was, the Creamy Sisters. Wait, have we talked about being the Creamy Sisters on this? I think we have, yeah. Where we wear cream-colored turlnex and our cream-colored overalls, and we are the Creamy Sisters. Yes, and it's because you wore the Creamy Fit to an improv show, and I very earnestly turn around. I was like, cream-on-cream, I really love when you do that.

And Paul Walsh was like, that was weird. And then he texted me later. He was like, I really loved how earnestly you turned around, looked Sashir up and down and went, I love when you do cream on cream. And then I took that text and was like, we have to become creamy sisters. And then I went and found, I went to a thrift store and I found a cream-colored turtleneck. And then I bought, they're not the same overalls. They're very similar overalls.

But one of these days, we've got to become the creamy sisters. I have to be the cream sisters. I'm in. And then I texted you and you said, ew. Because just the creamy sisters sound so gross. I cannot tell you how many times I've texted something I thought was like really silly or like whatever to somebody and they've responded with, ew. It's been so many times.

Like, you would think I would change. No. I can't. You don't got to. This is it. This is who I am. That's who you are. And that's okay.

Also, I think I might have sent misinformation to our group text. Oh. This morning I found a Instagram story where it was like, if you have psiliac, two shots of glute, or no, two shots, if you've been gluten, meaning if you've had gluten by accident, two shots of tequila will clear it up. Yeah. And I sent it to our group because two of them have celiac. And I was like, I did my work. Yeah. And then I guess it was just opened up to it.

And then I was like, what are the comments? And a lot of the comments were like, this isn't real. Oh no. You can't do this. I keep meaning to text the group to be like, maybe not. It's fake. It's fake. They're just drunk as hell in the middle of the day. Like, I was tall. I got gluten in the pulse that I could do this. Yeah, there's too much misinformation online.

It's kind of wild. Because it's just like people. It's just like someone being like, here's a fact. And we don't know who these people are. We don't know where they're getting their facts from. They're just saying stuff online. Yes. And I read a tweet yesterday because I stay up. Well, I was traveling yesterday. But I do stay on the internet

It was like I think the world is worse off Because of social media Because in school we were separated You know The slow learners The regular learners The people who learn better And we were all separated

Social media puts us all together And I was like That doesn't sound nice But it also doesn't sound wrong Doesn't sound wrong Maybe we're not all meant to be seeing the same shit We learn at different capacities But like I don't want the slow learners

quote unquote to just be at their own devices. That's not where I thought you were going. You were going to be like, I want the slow learners. I don't want them to not be included. You were like, I just don't want them to be left at their own devices together. That's basically what I'm saying. They should see what the advanced learners are, what they're spreading around. I don't want them to be like, here's misinformation.

They're just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And just like on their own learning nothing or the wrong things. They should see what the higher learners are saying. God, that's very, very funny. I agree. You know what? I think I agree. But it is wild how, like, the dumb shit gets spread faster than, like, real shit?

Yeah. You know? Probably because, like, it's more salacious or it's, like, feels, like, funier or more fun. Or just sounds right. Yeah. And we're like, yep, I'm not going to fact check that. That sounds right. I've gotten in the habit of just being like, yep, send it along.

And I really just got to go, wait a minute. Let's use my, what is it, deducing skills? Mm-hmm. What is it? Critical thinking? Yes. Mm-hmm. Oh, my God.

Yeah. That was tough. Let's use those critical thinking skills. Let's remember what it's called and use it. Mm-hmm. I mean, I've definitely felt victim to seeing a video, sending it off, looking at the comments and being like, this was AI. God damn it I got God again

Yeah I don't like it I don't like it To the point where I was like Maybe I spend less time on Instagram I love Instagram so much But yeah I do feel like I'm rejecting it Because I'm like I keep just combing through fake shit Which like I guess even when AI wasn't rampant on the social media

I was still looking at things that didn't apply to me I'm still looking at other people's lives and like like stories that I have I'm not related to but it felt but it felt real real I don't know I've said it before I said it again maybe we gotta start going to the library again you've said that before

I've never heard you say that before you have you have been promoting the library I've been saying it I'm gonna say it again we got to go to the library right after we go on our watch date and the creamy sisters are going to the library I think I've said it before maybe

you have not maybe you have But I would love to go to the library I think I think I'm just going to really try to get And there's some really pretty ones too Sorry I got really excited I didn't mean interrupt you And

Really pretty ones Well let's go to a pretty one Where's a pretty one? I feel like there's like an LA Like county library somewhere That has like like Trees inside of it Maybe a waterfall?

Waterfall? I might be complaining things But it sounds like you went on a hike With a book sat down next to your waterfall. I love this library. Really isn't anything a library if you just have a book with you? Yeah, a squirrel could check it out from you.

Give you two nuts. Isn't anything the library is like you. And honestly, the library should take that slogan for you. No, but they're probably like, we do want you to come into the library. We want you to come in and check them out. But yeah, I think I just want to, I just. I think I got to occupy my time with, like, maybe books or, like, stuff like that. You finally watched Heat at Rivalry.

Yes. Ellie and I were talking about this while we were breaking between episodes. And I loved it so dang much. Everyone's seen it. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I feel like I definitely wash it way after everybody else. I think I watched it, like, maybe the week.

I don't know. I watched it over Christmas. And every time that nice man in my life left the house, So I'd be like, got to put on my stories. And I'd be like, and then he'd come home and be like, what are you watching? I'm like, my stories. And then I would explain to him what was going on.

And he'd be like, got it. Okay. And then we'll watch like the end of an episode with me. And I just, my favorite episode, I texted this to you, it was the last one where nothing happened. It was just a nice time. Or maybe something bad could happen, but then it ends up being all fine and nice.

It was just a really nice time. I mean, yeah, it was. was, I guess, like, a little stressful. But yeah, I was expecting something detrimental to happen. But I think why we all liked it so much is it's a beautiful love story with no trauma attached. Yeah. And it's like, yeah, maybe a lot of like, you know, gay stuff starts with like a coming

out story or whatever. But there's usually like trauma attached to it. And I think that was like, this was just joy. Yeah. This was pure fucking joy. And it was like sexy, but not too sexy. It was pretty sexy. And then since everyone, I'm not going to ruin it,

but there's a scene where Ilya speaks in Russian to Shane. Shane. Shane does not understand Russian. Ali, that's where I cried. Yes. I was like boo-hooing because I was like, this man is being so empathetic. He doesn't understand, but he can understand like the emotions attached. Oh, ah, yeah.

They loved each other. They loved each other so much. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-mm-mm. Yeah. I'm just happy for them. Same.

I'm glad I did so well. I want them to make more. I'm happy for the actors. Same. Yeah. I don't want the budget to change. I know, yeah. I don't want anyone to get high on their horses.

I want them to continue telling lovely stories. I hope the actors get more money. Oh, yes. The actors. The writers. The writers. But what I'm saying is I don't want like spectacle. Do you know what I mean?

Yes. Yeah. Like I liked how it felt really grounded. Yeah. And they did a lot with. with what they had. Yes. I don't know how much Crave Canada

was paying per episode, but they worked it out. They worked it out for sure. And then I was sad that they're not eligible for Emmys? Emmys. Because it's Crave Canada. It's a Canadian production.

Yeah. But I feel like there's other... I think it has to be released through an American distributor. I think HBO Max licensed through Crave. I think. Yeah.

Because it still has a Crave thing on it, the logo. Yeah. I don't know. I could be. wrong. I could be making things up. This is me using critical thinking. Also, Rachel, who's the woman who wrote it? Rachel. Rachel Reed. Rachel Reed. She follows me on Instagram because I was like, I was like looking for her. I was like, I didn't know these

were books. When I found out there were books, I was like, got to find the writer. And then she followed me. And then I like, DM turned. I was like, please come about my podcast. Yeah, amazing. So hopefully that will work out. And then I bought the book. I bought Heat at Rivalry. I should have bought the first book in it because it's a whole saga with the same characters um i believe it's different characters but is Shane and ilia and then the man who announced he was gay on the ice Scott Scott that was my favorite that was one whole book oh that's nice yeah um so i'm gonna start with heated rivalry and then i'll probably like buy more and read them all out of order because I'm crazy she's crazy oh my god I'm a lunatician um but I'm really excited

to like have, I'm like excited to read again if that makes sense because I feel like I've talked to you so much about how I've been like, there's one book I've been struggling through. Still struggling through it. Actually two books right now. When I have, I have long breaks in between reading. So when I get back into reading, I'm like, my brain is buzzy. Like I cannot focus. It's so, I'm like reading the same page over and over and over again. It's hard.

It is hard to read. Did you see that? There's a streamer. named Kai Sent. I don't know anything about him. He's like really popular and he's reading like on live stream. He's like I want to improve my vocabulary and I want to improve my reading. So he's just reading out loud to his audience and they're like I think it's encouraging reading. I think we're going to have a return to like literacy. I hope so. I really hope so. And I think we're going to have a return to like I would like to find out the truth on this and like maybe curiosity will come back as opposed to like just looking up stuff on chat GPT or whatever. Yeah. You know, I, this isn't, I think we're on the press and process. I was like excited. I hope so.

I do, I hope, I think that maybe the AI stuff got so, like got two in our face. We're like, okay, I need to step back. Yeah, I need a reprie. Yeah. I need to know what's real because this is getting wild. Yeah, it's too scurray. It's too scurring. Mm-hmm.

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I know they're not sentient. I know they're not like people. But I was like, but it's like big eyes. We're like, and the train was behind it. And it just takes it out. And I went, then I had to be like, uh-oh. Do I have empathy for a robot? Well, because they put like a face on it.

They put eyes on it. So it feels like it's a little creature. A little creature. Oh. It's a wild video. I did not. I was like, oh, no. Can we got stuck on the tracks? Yeah, I think so.

Oh, God. And then one of the comments was like, where's that man's food? Someone's like, where? I asked for food an hour ago. Where's my cart full of food? Yeah, how would the robot communicate that? Like, does the company even know what happened? Offline. Yeah.

It's completely offline. But imagine if there was other carts, like little food carts around watching their friend. Oh, no. They're like, did you hear about Jerry? I'm not going over those tracks. I'll never go over those tracks. Oh, you're not going to catch me. Uh-uh.

No. No. No. Yeah, that's scary. Mm-hmm. And that's kind of my argument against those little food carts. I mean, I'm surprised more aren't just getting hit by cars. They have to cross the street.

They do have to cross the street. They do look like they're looking both ways. They take sometimes so long to cross the street. That's true. like, yeah, can they see the little walking sign? I have a feeling it's like a video game and somebody is moving them. Oh. I don't know.

I've never looked into it. Yeah. I just don't know if, because I know in a ways there's somebody watching at all times. In a ways? No, what are they called? Vim, Vim, Vim Vimms. What are those cars that move by themselves? Waymo.

Waymo. Vim bombs. I had no idea what you're talking about. What's a Waze? Waze is the direction app. Oh my God. Like the Maps app. Wow.

I've really skipped to be in like 62 years old. Vim VAMP. So wait, someone is controlling it? I'm 90% sure if somebody, I don't know if they're controlling it, but like if you need, like people will talk to you in them. Yeah, I thought there was like a help center.

Like, like, oh, so maybe someone isn't watching you at all times. I don't think so. I thought it was like truly self-driving. and then like if you're like we're stuck than someone in a human helps out. I don't know. I think. Yeah. The internet's saying that human operators will can tap in if it encounters issues.

Oh, but it is fully like automated. Yeah. Oh, so maybe them little cocoa things and little food carts are automated. Maybe. That's crazy. It's crazy. That's really crazy. I thought it was like a VR like a like a video game that someone was like piloting the cars.

No, I think they were like on their own Well that's crazy I'll never get into one I absolutely will never get into one now I went into one and I did not like it I mean just like we drove just fine But I was just like And then I saw I like looked at the window And there was one of those little robot delivery carts

And I was like this is weird as hell Mm-hmm I don't like it either I was passing by the Americana and I saw one of them food carts Stalking a couple Stalking a couple? Well, they were like making out on the side of the road. I was at a red light. And I just like happened to look over and they were making out.

And then the food cart went up the ramp and then turned towards them. And then they moved and then it moved towards them. And then they moved and it moved towards them. And then the light turned green. And I was like, maybe it killed them. Maybe the cart was like, do you want a third? Hey, hey, psal. I know I'm on the clock.

Do you want a third? Okay, get up in that. I can open up, I can open up my little basket. And I got stuff in here. You put your hands in there. Put your hands on there. Put your hands on there. Fiddle me.

Come on. Fiddle me. That's really funny. I did not really. They were fully automated. This is so funny that I was like against them and I didn't even know what I was against. Fully automated.

Get real. Get real. That's scary. Too wild for my britches. I had a Tesla and I have the, the, I bought the self-driving feature and I never used it because I was like, wait, I don't actually want to do that. That sounds scary. I dated somebody who had a Tesla.

who drove a long distance and your hand has to be on the steering wheel the whole time that the self-drive is on. And he would go to sleep and he would stick like a water bottle with water in it to mimic the weight of a hand. And I said, you're trying to die out here? That is really dangerous. I didn't break up with them after that. You're like, I'll love the universe handbook. And so he's still here for a reason. He'll go one way or another.

But isn't that wild? That's wild. Yeah. I wonder how many other people do that. That's like... Probably a lot. Scary. I think people who get self-driving are probably like, finally, I get to close my eyes or like fully get into my emails.

Oh, my God. So, no, I love driving. Yeah. I have such a good time. Speed race time. And that's just, you make you the noise in the car. The car is off. Like,

A fun time for me is like when a, like when the Bronco, the new Bronco got released, I went to Ford and I test drove one with no intention of buying it. But I had questions and quandaries. Just want to know that. As if I was going to buy it. Yeah. And Honda's re-releasing the prelude. I don't know if it's out yet.

I got to get on the internet. But I'm going to go test drive that. I can't wait. Mm. Mm-hmm. I love driving. You don't love driving. I, it feels like just like a.

necessity, but I'm not like excited to drive now. I don't dislike it. I'll do it. Yes. And oftentimes you will be the driver for a gathering. Yeah. I'll pick everybody up. You really will.

Yeah. And that is a nice equality about you. Oh, thank you. Because I will drive. But where will everyone sit? I have plenty of seating. I always get a car with so much seating. And I'm like, everyone get in.

It is funny because in that Tesla, you did pay for that third row. I did. And then it was like me and Jessica, we were like, how does it work? And you were like, I simply don't know. I've never used it. But then we did figure it out. Yeah. And that's not a comfy sit.

Like your head's still touching the ceiling. It's like, you're like, that's for children, really. It is for children. Or a dog. It's like, you're like, so strong. Just in there. Yeah. But yeah, my wrangler, there's barely, there's not room for anybody really anywhere.

and I love it. I love having such a teeny tiny car. My favorite, seeing the smallest of a parking spot and going, I can do this. I think I can do this. That is nice. I think I can do this. And I, nine times out of ten, do it.

Yeah. We'll get up in there. She gets up in there. I'll hit both cars several times. It's a Wrangler. It's for off-roading. Yes. And I love curbs.

I love hitting cars. I love it. I've yet to off road with it though Yeah One day One day I'm going to take it to the wilderness The library if you will But yeah let's

Okay we're gonna we have a big day ahead of us It's all happening one day The Creamy Sisters are out We are going to the library We're going to the watchman We're going offroading We're doing it all We're doing it all.

The Creamy Sisters Take L.A. Oh, my God. We can start like a little book series. Yo. The Creamy Sisters Take L.A. Just their wild adventures running errands. But we got to do it before it gets hot because I have a turtleneck. That's true.

But this is still, like, cool weather. It is still cool weather. It's wild weather. Sometimes during the day, it is so dang hot. I say, oh, summer. And then at night, I'm like, the winter. And that's crazy.

It is. It's wild as hell, y'all. Do you think we're out of the rainy season? Do you think we're done with rain or is we're going to come back? Here, I don't know, I don't know because I feel like rainy season, I don't know what I'm talking like this, I feel like rainy season go from. I feel like it, like rainy season, maybe last year was like through January. That's what I felt like, but we've knock on wood, gone through a couple weeks without rain.

Yeah. And I would love for it to be done. Me too. Allie, do you know? Do you know, Allie? Do you know? What does the internet tell you? What's the internet telling you?

Because I, there's like a little thing in my garage where I guess rain was coming, sleeping through, and then the paint bubbled out a little bit. And I was like to get that fixed. Yeah, I definitely have a lot of stuff to get fixed, and I don't want to keep raining. Okay, rainy season on L.A. technically ends in April. April? Yeah, it's November through April. That's a wide range. The hell?

What the fuck? That's so long. That's crazy. November to April? Several months. That's like half the year. Yeah. November to December, December, December, January, January to February to March, March to April.

That's almost half a damn year. Exactly. Did you know that without counting? I guess I did. Wow. Showing off. I just felt it. Okay.

She knows. She knows the months. Five months. That's wild. I know. Jesus. But I guess they're just like, it could happen in that season. It's definitely not raining the whole way through.

No. I'm like, should I get that patch, patch? I know. I didn't get my stuff fixed before it comes back. Oh, Lord. It's crazy. It's crazy. Oh, my God.

Oh, goodness gracious. Do you want to do a quiz? We can do a quiz. Let's do a quiz. Let's do a quiz. Really, do we have quizzes? Yeah? Do we have quizzes?

Do we have quizzes? Journey through a mystical forest to find out what ethereal being you are. Okay. Okay. It's like, creamy sisters. I would die. You're obviously an ethereal being, but you'll have, I don't know, who's that? Who's that?

But you'll have to journey through a mystical forest to find out exactly which one. You better pick your path carefully. You found the way into a mythical forest. Do you go in? Yes. I'd think about it first. Yes, but I'd be scared. I'd rather not.

That's insane to have I'd rather not because it's like, then why are you taking this quiz? I'll just be like, I guess you're not a mystical being. I guess you're just a human. I'm going to say yes. I'm going to say yes, but I'd be scared. I get a little scared sometimes. But I'll try it. I don't know if I've seen you like in action.

scared. Oh, yes, you have when we were at the devil's pool. Oh, yeah. What am I talking about? I mean, maybe I didn't look scared, but I was fully freaking out. No, no, no, no. That was me being insane because I saw the pictures after. All of the pictures you're like, yeah, I'm just like trying to smile, but there's just fear behind my eyes like, ha. Oh, man, I had never felt freer or better. You were loving it. Hands in the air. I love it. I love it. I love. Leading over the edge of the waterfall. Love the Devils. It was so thrilling.

I want to do it again. What is the Devil's Pool? Oh, the Devil's Pool is in Zimbabwe? Zambia, Zimbabwe. On the border. On the border, kind of like Buffalo, New York and Canada for Niagara Falls. It's one of the biggest waterfalls. Yeah, Victoria Falls.

It's one of the biggest waterfalls in the world. And during high season, when the tide is high, you can swim out to, a part of the waterfall and there's a little pool and you can sit in the pool and when you look over you just see water because that's how high up you are it is one of the most breathtaking things I've ever seen

and they take your picture up there and like and you know they show I have pictures on the website where people were like leaning over the edge of the waterfall and I was like that must be an optical illusion or something they probably like feet away from the edge because at no point you do sign your life away and they're like,

who should we email if you die? Like, it's pretty wild, but at no point do they say you are in an actual waterfall. You're actually at the edge. And they're just holding your feet. And when you look, you just, it's like being in Niagara,

like you see the rest of the waterfall from where you're seated. It is incredible. Yeah. Oh, I never felt so alive. And I had stolen someone's shoes. Oh, yeah, that's right. By accident.

You go in. What do you bring with you? A knife. A journal? A flower. A magic wand? Who am I? Fucking Harry Potter?

I just have a fucking wand with me. Well, we're in a magic forest. Yeah, you're right. I'm going to bring a knife. I'm going to bring a magic wand. If that's an option, I'm going to bring it. Now I'm going to bring my knife Bring one of my drawer knives

Have you used a box cutter yet? It's okay if you haven't No, I have Oh, okay And okay, thank you Very kind gift. Have we explained that I have drawer knives? She has drawer knives

Loose knives In the drawer by her door To open packages And I was like, well, you need a box cutter Actually your boyfriend was like Yes You need a box cutter And I was at Home Depot

Because I'm always at Home Depot You are. And I was like, here's a box cutter. And it was very kind. And I like didn't, I was like, why are you blindly putting your hands in the drawer? Like, that's crazy. Because he kept being like, I'm scared of like getting cut by the drawer knives. And I was like, well, look.

If you open it and look, you're not going to touch the drawer knife. But also just don't have loose knives in your house. You could just also have a box cutter. I know, but I feel like that's part of my whimsicality. You never know what you're going to get with what you open. You can be stabbed. He's not getting a drawer knife. So the box cutter is there.

I very recently opened a box and I went, this does not compare to a drawer knife. This, it's like too smooth and it goes a little too deep sometimes because the drawer knife doesn't go as deep. So I'm not cutting the things inside the box. Okay. So the box cutter is there for him. My drawer knives are now covered knives.

They're in a cup So I bring my stuff to the kitchen I take out my cup knife I get in there All right compromise That's great And that's what love is Compromise

It's true But like It really blew me away That like everybody was like on his side about it They were like you have blue snow I was in your drawer And I was like yes I've never once cut myself on it

Yeah But I did cut myself on the box cutter That seems hard to do I don't know girl How were you holding it I just pulling in there. I don't know. It has a part for your hand.

It's like a grip that's far from the blade, actually. Well, yeah, I was gripping it with this hand. I don't, I think I just went like that. Girl, well, it's so sharp. I think that's why I like my drawer knives because they're pretty, they're kind of dull from open and box. Snap, and animals behind you. Which of these is it?

A blue frog? A squirrel? I think it's a rabbit. Is it? Oh, no, there's a squirrel on the below. Oh, a rabbit. And then there's a squirrel. A deer?

My eyesight's gone. Oh, no. That was tough, and I got the contacts in. Uh-oh, better re-up. Okay, so there's an animal behind you. Honestly, that squirrel looks devious. It just looked pretty sneaky. I don't like it.

Hands barely touching each other. I'm going to say that frog because it's a sick-ass color. I like it. Mm-hmm. I'm going to say the deer. The deer looks like it could lead me to an adventure. Oh. Mm-hmm.

I didn't even think of that. Shit. The blue frog definitely can lead you to an adventure. Fuck. What do you do now that the creature? What do you do now that you see the creature? Scream! Stand still.

Speak to it. Sing to it. I'm trying to think of like what order of it going, because it's between sing to it and speak to it. And once my sister was inside her house, and I had gone downstairs because she was like doing something. I was like, oh, I'm time for this. I need to be outside. And I saw a squirrel.

And by the time she had come outside, I was singing into the squirrel trying to like get it to come to me. So I think maybe speak to it would come first. Yeah. Hello. Oh, Mr. Frog. Yeah. Speak to it. I would probably stand still and be like, I would like let it do its thing.

Like I would let it make the first move. I don't want to assume its intentions. I'm always talking to animals. I was singing to my flowers outside this morning. Oh, see, that's nice. Because a lily started blooming, and I was like, you're gorgeous. And I walked out my kitchen.

I was like, you're gorgeous. Look at you, girls. Look at you. And I was like pointing. And I was like, look at you. You're doing great. And you're doing great. And I was turning at other plants.

And I was like, you can use some work. You need water. but you're like, looking good. That's very funny. I love that. I hope someone was like on a power walk and they were like, yeah, look at me, girl. I am gorgeous. My neighbor who I was stealing persimmons from caught me stealing the other day.

I was over the fence. Wait, is this not the person you gave a note to? No, those are lemons. But I was stealing persimmons. Okay. They also have lemons. And I was like, I want to taste their lemons. I'm like, distaste in my neighbors.

Did they talk to you? No. And I don't know if they lived there or if they were the dog walker. But I was over this fence. And I was like wrestling with this tree to get to this lemon. And there was also more persimmons, but they were a little too far. And I was like, I'll come back with a step ladder. And then I saw these other really pretty flowers.

And I was like, oh, I want those flowers. And I was like, and then I was like, ah, yeah. And then I put them in my pocket. And I was like, come on, Clyde. And I looked up and there was a person right, like, I don't know, two feet from where I was. was stealing, staring at me. Outside? Uh-huh. And I just went, and then they went into the house. And I was like, oh, man, they watched me wrestle their trees for a very long time. They could have said something. I'm like, do you want me help you with that? Or please stop.

Yeah. I would have said, yeah, give me things. Honestly, they're the weird one. Yeah, they're weird. And I'm going to get, I'm going to go with my step ladder because they're not helpful. You have like a branch cutter. It's fully chopping them. down. Give me our persimmons. It's gone. You're hungry. What?

The creature's gone? Oh, okay. I guess so. It's gone. And you're hungry. What do you eat? I'm eating them for us. Mushrooms.

Roses? Apples? Or are those berries? I think those are berries. Okay, berries. I think those are apples or lemons. What are those? I think those are apples.

Apples. And what's in that ramekin? What was that? A berry salad? Yeah. A berry salad? Maybe? Okay, a berry salad. I'm not going to eat anything out of a ramekin in the forest. I'm going to eat mushrooms. Let me fucking feel myself, dude. Yeah, the ramecan feels like a trap. It feels like a witch left that for me.

Maybe I would eat an apple because I feel like there is a higher chance of poisonous berries. Oh, yeah, you're right. But mushrooms? Yeah, have a good time. Yeah, I'm going to have fun. I'm going to fucking trip balls. Okay, now you come across a mystical site. What is it? A rainbow in front of a waterfall? A cave with water.

Ooh, crystal sticking out of the ground. A bridge in the forest. We definitely saw a rainbow at the waterfall too. We did. Yeah. That was a nice treat after being tested, scared to death. And I was like, this is all part of the plan. I'm going to say this like underwater cage.

thing because I want to go swimming. I'm going to say crystals because I like crystals. You love crystals. It's time to find a place to rest. Where do you sleep? On the forest floor. On a pile of leaves. On a pile of sticks.

On a flower bed. I don't want to fuck up the flower bed, but this is like a magical place. So I think the flowers will bounce back. So I'm going to say on a flower bed. That sounds nice. Right? Yeah. It reminds me of, I think, I think it was flower.

The character was flower. It's a skunk from Bambi. Oh. And he would sleep in flowers, I think. He really liked smelling them. It was very cute. Aw. He was a skunk?

Yeah. And they called him flower? I think so. Yeah. Maybe it's because he always slept in the flowers and smelled like flowers and not like skunk. Yeah. We have to take a break. Oh, let's take a break.

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Yeah. I'm going to sleep on a pile of leaves. That sounds like the comfiest option. You don't think it'll be crunchy? Probably, but you can stack a bunch of them. Yes. And that feels like padding. And there's only so many flowers.

There's only so many flowers. Lastly, after you wake up, What will your plan be? To find a way the heck out of here. To go back to the mystical. Is it mythical? No, there's no T.H. Mystical spot I found.

To make breakfast. To find more animal friends? What was the first one even my fucking friend? Yeah, it left. Mm-mm-mm-mm. I might get out. Wait. I'm going to go back to the mystical spot I found just to be like,

what am I supposed to be doing? Yeah. Yeah. I would like Oh Me? I'm a mermaid Although you've just ventured

Through the mystical forest You actually belong in the ocean Along with your sea creature friends You are naturally alluring Strong and curious And you absolutely love water I do! I'm a water baby BuzzFeed fucking got it right! Yes, that is

very accurate. You are mermaid I am a mermaid. Oh my goodness. Okay, my plan after I wake up would probably be to make breakfast. Before I do anything, I need to eat. You are a hungry gal. I'm a hungry gal. And that's great. Yeah, I need fuel.

Buzzfeed, who am I? A fairy. She says, fairy. You are a beautiful fairy flying through the mystical forest. You have wings that carry you over the trees to meet up with your animal friends. You are airy, kind, considerate, and always have fun when you are in nature. That's true. I think that is true as well. I like that.

I can't believe you can read that font from here. Thank you. I was struggling, but I did it. I was like, dang, girl, them eyes are good. I have 20-20 and I want to keep it that way. You do have 2020, but we corneas. We corneas, which we don't like that wording. I don't like that word.

Cornias I need a little bit of help. Yeah, but I'm trying to do eye exercises and I think it's helping. Like, like what? Like trying to cross my eyes, because you know I can't actually cross. cross my eyes. But like trying to get the meat in the middle and then like looking up and like to the side and the side and down. And then also like looking at something like far away and then something closer and

then like having my eye focus back and forth. I was doing it. You were doing it. Okay. With crossing your eyes like maybe like open them really wide now try to cross them. Don't look down. look in the middle. Am I doing it?

No. Really wide. Now look at your look at the bridge of your nose. Something's happening. I don't think anything's happening. Something was. Really?

Okay, look at me and do it. Big, big nasty eyes. And now look at the bridge of your nose. That one is crossing. That one is not. That one does not want to cooperate. Okay, it hurts a little bit.

I'm sorry. Your eyes are watering. Oh my God. That's enough lessons for today. Thank you. You sent me a thing that Helen Keller is not real. She is a real person. The thing you said she's not real.

She said, not real. No, she's real, but that maybe she was a fraud. Maybe she could actually see. And that Anne Curry. What was her name? Her teacher? Was it Annie Sullivan? Who's Anne Curry?

She was on the Today Show. Never been so far away yet so close. Oh my gosh. Annie Sullivan was like shady. And she was puppeting and Helen Keller. Oh my God. Tough. Yeah.

Yeah. So I Your eye work just reminded me of that Oh right okay got it But it's so wild to me You can't cross your eyes I guess I've never tried before It was like the thing I wanted to learn

When I was a kid I think any eye stuff freaked me out Because you know those kids that like make their eye Like inside out Yeah that's disgusting that I don't know how to do I don't want that Maybe I guess people I don't think my mom said this

But I feel like it was like a saying Like if you cross your eyes You get stuck like that or whatever I was like I don't want that Yeah, my mom would say then I'd be like, and, so I'm more interesting. So I'll have a more fun, playful, whimsical quality about myself. It's not a threat. Can't threat me?

She couldn't threaten me. Bring it on. Bring it on. Do you think what, how do you, because I know some people do have like their eyes like not fully crossed or are there people who have fully crossed eyes like permanently? I think so. I think sometimes one can be in a different position. And do you think they can see straight ahead? How do they see?

You know, I think the body like adjusts. So I do think maybe their sight is impeded a little bit, but I think they can see. I can have me see. I know some people wear glasses when an eye is like crossed a little bit. I also know there's like surgeries to like help uncross an eye. Oh, I didn't know that. Mm-hmm. My goodness.

There's a lot of things out there to help people. That's nice. Should we answer some questions? Yes. Hi, Nicole and Sashir. I have a friendship question about joking with friends. In my friend group, we all kind of joke around with each other and razz each other playfully. Every now and again, they'll say or do some really hurtful things that's a little too far.

Of course, I'll say, okay, that was too much or, wow, that was really aggressive. At that point, they'll run to their partner and the other one will say that I was being overly aggressive and being rude, or even gang up on me together. Some info about me is that I am the only one that's single, overweight, bi-pox, and out of our entire group. So when I try and defend myself or try and match their energy, they'll either say I'm the one being too much or aggressive and I'm told to calm down. I'm at a point where I don't really speak up anymore around certain people because they always take what I say to a retaliatory space. Not everyone gets like this, but the ones who usually do are screaming at me and calling me a stupid bitch or some combination of words like that. How should I address this? Is this even a salvageable source of friendship since a love?

lot of it is built on nudging people playfully. Thank you for any sight or thank you for any insight. My fake name shall be Kevin. Thank you, Kevin. Okay. So Kevin is like trying to like roast people and then they're saying that Kevin's doing too much. It sounds like the whole group is roasting each other. Yeah. But when Kevin does it, they're like, you stupid bitch. How dare you? That's tough. I know. But is the stupid bitch part of the roasting? Sounds like they get emotional about it Or like it feels like Yeah, when they say that felt like too much

Yeah You went too far I guess I need examples I know I wish there were examples But Also some people You can't joke with like that Yeah

Like Yeah I don't know why they think they're joking Is different than you're joking Well actually I don't know This person's a person of color and sometimes, definitely for black women. Oh, ooh, cityscapes.

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Or they say they're biphock. So person of color, yeah, definitely for black women, maybe for other people of color. When we say something, sometimes it gets perceived as angry or like with more attitude than we actually are trying to convey. So it's possible that no matter what you say, unfortunately, if you are the only one in the group. Yeah. They might automatically assume that you are being. too much or too real, too raw, too mean. And that's not based on the words you're saying.

It's based on how you look. And that sucks. But I feel like in a text, was via text? Was it via text? Sorry. Oh, no, this is, these are all like an in-person conversation. Oh, my God, I'm really all over the place. Was I listening?

Oh, my God. Yeah, I mean, it is tough. that like every time you try to joke around to be like, uh-oh, you good? Yeah. I'm a stupid bitch. Are you good? You understand that was a joke?

Because then you have to like defend yourself all the time and then that comes off as defensive because of let's root words here. That is tough. I don't know. And then maybe it's like if you don't want to like dish it out anymore because you're tired of defending yourself, maybe when someone like roasts you, you go, I don't know.

I didn't like it. Yeah. I mean, it could be worth a conversation of like, hey, it seems like maybe our humor as a group is not cohesive. Like, like, we, you know, we do these little roasts. Maybe we just don't talk to each other like that. Like, let's keep the vibes positive because it seems like I hurt your feelings and you guys hurt my feelings. And I just want to have a good time and hang out with you. So maybe we just don't joke like that.

Yes, because you said to me once one of our mutual friends, I, was like roasting him about something and you were like that probably didn't feel good and I was like yeah but that's like how we roast each other and you were like I've never heard him roast you like that and I was like oh my god maybe the roasting is a little one-sided and ever since I made that slight adjustment or when we're together and like get into like being a little roasty I'm like ah I understand now like when I'm going a little too far and when he kind of retreats and doesn't say anything back that's not like uh-huh I'm the funniest it's like no no no I'm the funniest it's like no no I like struck a chord.

Yeah. So like I, at first I was a little defensive about it, but then I like really thought about it. I don't think I ever said this to you. Thank you for saying it. Sorry. I just took it on my own and like was just doing the work to fix it. But thank you for bringing it up.

Yeah, that was on me to be like, oh, I take it a little too far sometimes and he's just not saying anything. So I do think that maybe having a conversation would be helpful, but I do think maybe. Maybe you have to start it with like, I'm not attacking. This isn't like me going for like who you are as a person, which is very annoying. But like sometimes when you give someone an adjustment or like a criticism, it feels like you're attacking them as a person.

Oh, absolutely. And that's really their problem. But unfortunately you have to like mitigate people's feeling. Yeah. But I think maybe you can have a conversation when it's not in the moment, when it's not like you just received or gave like a roast. Like just like a side like, hey, I was thinking. you know, I have so much fun with you guys when we're not roasting each other.

What if we just keep that energy? Because it feels like things get really tense when we do get into roast mode. Yeah. And hopefully they'll agree. I also, this sucks. But when you criticize people or ask someone to adjust, sometimes they'll go, when has that ever happened?

Yeah. So I would just be prepared for that. Come to the discussion with at least one or two examples. Mm-hmm. Also, like, you know, if you like hanging out with these people, they should still be your friends. But maybe that Rose Energy can go to other friends. Like maybe this is just not the group. Yes.

That you can flow with like that. I don't know if this is their main friend group or only friend group or what. But like, there probably are people who do understand your humor. And that and there's a flow that can happen there. These people might not be it. Yeah. Yeah Yeah

No I think that's really great Sashir Yeah Maybe it's Finding some new friends Yeah Find some friends who Can meet you

Meet you where you're roasting Yeah Can meet you in the oven It's hot in here Get in the kitchen So Shall we do Let's do one more

Just one more Just give us one more Okay Hi Nicole and Sashir thank you for making me and my mom laugh so hard we snort every week. You brighten up our days. I have a dilemma. My partner is recently divorced with two sweet, wonderful, and way too energetic children,

five and eight. His act is a real see you next Tuesday if you catch my drift and has done nothing but make our lives miserable since we became official about a year ago. This year, I was invited to Christmas at his parents, but she and her new partner will also be there. I politely declined because Christmas isn't really my thing and I spend that day watching horror movies and celebrating birthday week because it gets ignored thanks to Christmas. Long story short, I'm feeling I'm feeling guilty because the kids want me there and I know my wonderful man does too, but I'm already in my depresses and don't know if I can fake it until I make it. What would y'all do?

Suck it up for four plus hours or take time for yourself. I also work retail so that week will already be hell. Thank you, love you. don't have kids so don't know that life but I do know about showing up when people want you to I think it's worth

having a conversation with this X just to be like hey can this be like a neutral thing like I know we don't really see eye to eye I don't know really we don't like get along but do you mind if we just like put on a nice happy face for these kids on Christmas I think that might alleviate some of it

I also think working retail does suck But, like, maybe if you can, take a couple days off during Christmas week. Yeah. I think maybe Christmas Eve could be when you, like, after the kids go to bed, if they live with you full time, like, or if they're with you then, like, maybe after they go to bed, you watch a horror movie. I think you can still do some of these self-care things, but I think you can also show up when people are asking you to.

I really like that. Yeah, I feel like there's always a way to compromise and, like, not, like, full. abandon what you want, but also give a little bit of what other people are asking of you. Like, yeah, if it is like going over and like sharing Christmas with the X, maybe you're just there for an hour. Like, be like, I'm just showing up. Say hi, hi, hi, hi, hi.

Maybe you look at presents or whatever, you know, I don't know what the traditions are. But like, just like for a second and then be like, and now I'm going to go. I'm leaving, yeah. Like, yeah, because at least you showed up. Yeah. And that's what people will remember, hopefully. And they don't need you there for the entire night. I would hope.

I would hope that they would also be understanding enough to be like, yes. Thank you so much for trying. And you showed up and you can go home now. And I tend to think, at least for me, sometimes showing up is enough that I'm like, oh, that's not that bad. I can stay. Yeah. You might be surprised.

You might be surprised. this like four hours or whatever. You're going to have to drag me out of here. I'm having fun. Give me another present. Yeah, you might be surprised. It might not be as bad as you think it is. Yeah.

I think sometimes we catastrophize and set up the worst case scenario. So you're like, I'm just not going to fucking do it. But then it's like, sometimes I'm not that bad. Mm-hmm. I'm not that bad. Yeah. My girlfriend likes water sports and I don't care. I'll go to the beach.

and I have gotten in the water and I have splish-splashed around and then been like, got to get out of the water now but I'm like, you know what? She really wants me to like enjoy these activities with her. I will try.

And I went wakeboarding recently and I got a bunch of water in my mouth and my nose and I was like this is really exhausting. But I did stand up. But you didn't. Yeah, I did three tries. The first one, the little

whole handle flew right out of my hand. And I was like, That's harder than I thought it would be. And then the second time, fully face-planning to the water. And the third time I stood up and it went right back down. And I was like, I did it. And I don't want to do it anymore. And she's like, you don't have to.

Thank you for trying. And that's nice. Yeah. I mean, you could have just gotten on the boat, but you went a step further and said, I will actually try this thing that I don't think I'm going to like and then I didn't like it. Yeah, exactly. You know? I think, yeah, I think there's something to like, I can meet this person halfway.

Yeah. Why not? I think people will just be happy that you even tried. Yes. Yeah. Trying is better than not. Exactly. Then she died.

She just passed away. Solved. Well, that's it. That's it. And if you have any questions or queries for us, you can email us at Nicole and Sashir at gmail.com. Or call us. We've got a number. I'm sorry.

That wasn't very nice. I just left you with a number. At 323-238-6-55. Thank you, Allie. Yes, thank you, Allie. Well, signing off from Los Angeles,

Gittlerburnia. Cityscapes. Cityscapes. Goodbye. Best Friends is a production of Headgum Studios. Our producer is Ali Khan. Our executive producers,

Anya Khan of Skaya. The show is edited, mixed, and engineered by Rochelle Chech. That was a HeadGum podcast.