Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata - Sasheer is the New Foot of Tevas

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

Nicole and Sasheer are back with another episode of Best Friends and they're getting right into the big questions: Are feet scary hands? Why do people walk around hotel lobbies barefoot? Who is Albert Nobbs? All of this and more (answering Best Friends listener questions from the vault!) will be revealed.Watch this full video on YouTube and follow below!Follow Nicole: Twitter, Instagram, TikTokFollow Sasheer: Instagram, TikTokLike the show? Rate Best Friends 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts!Have a friendship question for Nicole and Sasheer to solve? Leave us a voicemail at [phone]‬ or write in at [e-mail] Friends is a production of Headgum Studios. Our producer is Allie Kahan. Our executive producer is Anya Kanevskaya. The show is edited, mixed, and engineered by Casey Donahue.This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Best Friends via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a headgum podcast. Hi, Sashir. Hi, Nicole. How are you? I'm good. We were talking about hair, and I usually shave my own head because it's just faster. And I know what I like.

And I feel like when I go to the barber, they always want to line me up. like have angles and stuff and I'm like I just like it like natural anyway the clippers that I have have a guard and two of the little like teeth broke so now it's a gap tooth oh no big gap in the middle and so it's still usable but then there's just like a you have to like go over it again and again yeah so the way you travel with your clippers is psychotic what do you mean you travel with every single piece of it Oh, I guess I didn't think of it like that. Well, I also thought it was psychotic that you put things in drawers, but now I've come around and I understand that, like, you can live nicely in a hotel. Yeah, I want to dig through my suitcase every single time.

Like, I just put things in the drawer. That's what they're there for. Yeah, but I guess my thought was, I don't live here. These are not my drawers. Do you think you'd be tempted to stay forever if you put your things in the drawer? I'll never check out. I guess this is my house. now my things are in the drawer.

I'm committed. You know what's wild about hotels now? They're like, you could do contactless checkout. I've been doing that. I leave. Yeah. You want me to stand in a line to be like, hey, I'm going. Yeah, I guess because they'll know.

Yes. Someone's going to come to the room and clean it. Yes. And you won't be there. I won't be there. Yeah, that is interesting. They have that little dance. Very wild to me.

Also, I feel like you should have travel clippers. but you're good at like putting your stuff in a suitcase and then taking your stuff out that sentence sounded really dumb but do you know what I mean yeah because my stuff just stays packed for so long after I get home no I do that I my stuff will stay to the side of my bed for a while and eventually I'm like okay the rest of this should just go in the laundry or like get out of here but a couple of years ago I said Nicole why don't you be kind to your So I just bought doubles of my makeup. So that just stays packed in my backpack.

Yeah. And then I really got into tiny, tiny, like, shampoos and conditioners and body wash. Oh. So now I have, like, all sorts of flavors. Sense? What do you call them? Because I have, like, the Ole normal moisturizing 14. hour one but then I have strawberry that's a flavor I think it's a scent I've said out loud at like

convenience stores like when they have the little guys I'm like oh a new flavor like you shouldn't be putting this in your mouth no well I'm not eating it yeah imagine if I didn't know I was like body watches for your whole body you put in your mouth but it is weird that they would flavor it or make a scent that is like food yes because it that feels like that should be be eaten where they could just make it floral or something or like yeah this is like evergreen or something that you wouldn't eat but for ladies you get strawberry peaches peaches i love the strawberry one though yeah and then there's a purple one that is heavily scented that i i don't love the scent but i love washing myself with purple wait is actual stuff that comes out of it purple or just

the bottle no the actual so i bought it at a bodega in new york and i was like whatever the Olay that you have, because I like O'Lay. Yeah. And then I got in the shower and what a happy surprise to turn that bottle upside down and purple goo came out. I squealed. I squealed.

I was so excited. I'm very happy for you. Do you ever squeal? I don't know. I don't know. I don't think I'm a squealer. I guess I just get really excited about things.

I think my excitement noise like, oh. But it's not like a noise. It's like a word. Not like, mm. Is that a squeal? What's the squeal? Oh. Ow.

Oh. I'm constantly making noise like that in my house just alone. No, I don't think I do that. Oh, boy. Oh, So, Shear, I meant to tell you. So I have that jumpsuit. Yes. And then I looked at your dogs.

Yeah. And I was like, I kind of have sandals like that, too. Should we just dress head to toe, same? Maybe. I like that. But I do think I've adopted your sturdy sandal. It's nice. Have your dogs out.

Have butt support. Yeah. I have really come around to it. When I visited you, or when we were in Mexico at the same time, and I came out to where you were, I was wearing tivas. And you looked down and you went, Oh, Tivas. I never thought I'd see you in Tivas.

I know, but they're my adventure sandal now. That's what they're meant for. I had no idea. The water, mountains, all terrain. They're ready. If you're hiking. Mountains, all terrain. All terrain.

There's two terrains. All terrain. What are the terrains are there other than water and land? That's it. That's it. Slopes? No, I still the mountain. Mud?

Mud. that's not mountain it's a mix of water and dirt yeah uh-huh and uh let's see water maybe probably not ice actually mm which is also water but it's that's different water form of water that's ice mm-hmm tivas imagine that was a tivas commercial people being like um ice no actually been trying i'm dying to be the face of tivas or the foot of tivas i let me in The foot of tivas. They never show your face.

They pan up and they stop right at your chin. They're like, who is she? Whose dogs are these? I think you could be the foot of tiva. I think you. I'm wearing tivas for a real long time. For such a long time. They have good art support and they have like a nice little like padding in there.

And one time I was performing at Bonarue and I was in like the little artist watch area, watching other performances. like watching music and there was some guy oh I guess we also had like our own little bar and there was someone in the crowd that was like behind the fence and he was like hey

will you grab me a beer from your from your beer from your bar or whatever and I don't know why I said yes I'm like sure and he was like from a movie he was like I work for Tivas and if you ever need anything let me know and he like handed me his card and I was like I will

wait did you let him know? I did let him know. I was like, I want these specific Tivas, and I also want to, like, be the foot of Tivas. And then they did give me the Tivas, but they didn't let you be the foot of Tivas. Well, I think this is an achievable dream for you. I hope so.

I think someone at Tivas is going to see this episode and be like, wait a minute, we've been sleeping on these feet. Yeah. And I have a really good rating on Wiki feet. People have voiced their appreciation. The people have spoken. An admiration for my dogs. You do have a very nice score for someone who's never complained about it.

I have an okay score because I've complained about it on several podcasts. So people have been very kind to be like, okay feet. But I don't have great feet and I know it. I mean, every one has different feet. They're like snowflakes, you know. They are like snowflakes. And if you have a foot fetish, what an easy fetish? What do you mean easy?

Just go to the beach. Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you'll be inundated with feet. It's feet everywhere. Yeah. Do you think that would be overwhelming if you have a foot fetish? You're like, oh, lo, loo.

You're just like coming all over the sand. Ew. I have to leave. I have to leave. I can't be here. Boardwalks? Mm-hmm. There's so many places to see feet if you want to see a foot.

I mean, the summer's probably just a bit. best time. Oh my God. Yeah, move to like Hawaii or Vegas or Florida. Somewhere hot and tropical and you can get off all day long. Get your kicks out. I don't really understand a foot fetish. I don't either. And it's so interesting. I mean, there's probably, I know there's like so many fetishes. But it just is so fascinating to me that there's like so many people that agree that feet are their thing. Like I hear people being like, I got a knee fetish. got an elbow maybe I'm sure it exists

I think it does exist but I it's not as common yeah I don't know the community is as big as the foot fetish heads the foot fetish heads yeah I don't know I think feet are scary hands

yeah someone showed me a foot and they're like this is my hand I would be concerned I mean think about it like feet the little toes are just shorter

fingers and then it's longer palms it's hot oh my goodness oh boy it would go harder

to do things unless I guess if they were your hands you would get used to them if they would learn how to grip some people have really great toe grip yes I think all people who usually walk barefoot have good toe grip because they're like using it to

not grip the ground but just like I don't know just help them balance I guess I don't have good toe grip and I'm constantly barefoot interesting because I don't wear socks inside I can't I slide that is dangerous do you wear do you go barefoot outside no you could like in the grass no I do not want to see barefoot people out in public. I checked into a hotel. I think this was last week and there was a lady. No offense. I love the white people. They're really kind and really nice.

But they are barefoot outside in public a lot. It was this white lady in a robe. I said this is not your home. This is not your room. She put her clothes in the drawer. She got too comfortable. She got too comfortable. She said I live here now. She said I live here now. But she was walking around the lobby

shoeless. I don't like that. And the check-in lady was asking me questions and I said, I'm so sorry. I can't focus. I honestly cannot focus. This lady is shoeless. And she said, they do that sometimes. And I was like, I don't know if you can say they, but I'm kind of with you on it. It's pretty wild.

And then when I was in Mexico, there was a shoeless lady at the resort on the transportation. Oh. Yeah. And she was so drunk. And she was like, oh, you have a wedding? And I was like, no. Where are your shoes? And she said, I'm a fear. I said, where are your shoes? They made me so mad. Yeah. I wouldn't want to be barefoot, like,

out in public because I'd be worried about glass or like just nastiness on my feet. But like in your own space, like you have grass. You can put your feet in those grass. I do have grass. You can put your feet in the backyard. You can put your feet on your property, not necessarily out and about. My backyard doesn't have grass. It has a like cement.

Put your feet on that. Hot. That's true. Hot. It'll burn your dogs. And sometimes. I'll just be alone now. They're going, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot. I hope my neighbors don't listen to me.

Going, hot, ta, ha, ta. Yeah. Do you either squealing or hot, hot, tat, and. They're like, something's wrong with her. Yeah. She's not well. Yeah. I like put my feet in the grass. What do you do? You, like, just walk around the grass, or are you, like, gripping dirt and scooping it and moving it?

I hope it. I guess I'm not scooping it and moving. thing like a cloth no I'm just like walking yeah like if I have to go to the yard for something instead of putting shoes on before I go

I just go to the yard hmm okay maybe I'll come around to this but for now I'm gonna keep my my feet in sandals and shoes and that's your prerogative

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I played with him We went on a very long walk I then fed him And then sat next to him while he ate Because he kept bringing the food to me And I was like, I'll just come to you It's just getting kind of messy And then maybe I spent too much time with him

And then today he was like, whoa. You got used to it. We're not having Nicole time? No. Yeah, they don't have a good, like, gauge of time, which sucks. Get real. Get real. Grow up.

You know I was like him for a couple hours. Well, he does act the same. If I put him in his room and then leave and then forget something and come back, he acts like I was gone for eight hours. Yeah, I really think they don't, like, have a register for, like, how long you were gone. If you could be a dog for a day, would you do it? Yeah. I think it would be fun.

I think so, too. I probably see things I don't usually see. Get to run around. You would also not see things you usually see because you're smaller. That's true. Closer to the ground. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

I would do it, but, like, I would have to sign some sort of agreement that made sure I became human again after the day. You definitely should do that. Well, I don't want to get tricked. Not a way to dog forever. No. That would be terrible. Would you want to be a big dog or a little dog? I think a medium-sized dog

Oh Gotcha there That wasn't expected Was it one of your options but Sure wasn't Okay Do you want to be pure bread Or do you want to be a mutt?

A mutt I think I want to be a mutt too They seem more fun Yeah And then I want to like infiltrate a street gang Mm-hmm Yeah dog gangs are fun Yeah

Yeah Like Oliver and company Yeah Right? Is that cats? No, no. It is all of... They are dogs.

And I get confused about Oliver and company because it makes me think about Oliver Twist. And I'm like... I think it's the same story. Is it not? Is it the same story just with dogs? I think so. Wow.

Maybe not. Yes, it is. You're right. Yeah. That's so funny that I thought I've been confused. Mm-hmm. But that's the truth. That's just the truth.

Wow. Wow. So sheer. that's wild I'm like blown away I feel like that happens all the time not all the time but you know like a lot of animated or children's stories

or teen stories are just like old works like Lion King is Hamlet it is Is she's all that taming of this true Yes She's the Man is

12th night Yes What else was there. Ten things I hate about you is ooh. This one I know, but what was it? Oh shit. I don't remember.

That one's also teeming up the shirt. Oh, that's right. Okay, okay. A lot of source material from taking up the shirt. Yeah. I do love She's the Man. I just watched it recently. It is such a good movie. Really good movie. Channing Tatum? Not in high school.

that is an adult man for sure but he's so fun in it he's very fun yeah what's a fun guy yeah what a fun guy yeah i think that was like one of his first big roles i think so too which is very cool i know that's so nice it's so nice i'm gonna revisit that and then david cross is in it and he's very funny in it he's very funny as the principal we should have a she's all no she's the man day that's how she's the man day yeah where we just watch it one time and then that's it

okay I could fill it with like movies where women play men or men play women well there's so many men playing women movies but I just want to watch when playing men movies yeah we can watch Victor Victoria that's it that's it

simply can't think of another It's okay, don't think too hard. Well, Kate Blanchett played Bob Dylan. Yeah? And then Glenn Close played Albert Knobbs. Who's that? I don't know. I think he's a butler.

I think the movie's called Albert. I think his name is Albert Knobbs. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. I could be making this up. Oh, you're right. Wow, can you believe that? that's a wild reach

I've never seen that movie but you know it I think I saw one trailer yeah that's funny where Glenn Close is just like here to serve you I love it great you know what I don't want any more remix or like live action versions of things except for Fern Gully

why haven't we done that I would love a live action Fern Gully oh my God yes right yeah why haven't we done that I don't know yeah I feel like that's a beloved movie. I think so. I think her name's Krista. Yeah. And Zach? Yeah. Boy, oh boy, would have an opportunity

to cast some young, hot, up-and-comers. Absolutely. They sound like a predator. Some young, hot, hot up-and-comers. Those untapped hotties. Also, I would love to see like a practical smog. The smog? The smog. I think so. Smog. Yeah, I think so.

I think that's the goop. Or smudge? Smudge? Whatever. I think that's like a fun opportunity for someone to do some practical effects. And the songs were so good. Yeah. And then batty?

I think that's the bat. Probably. I believe you. Oh, boy. I do want to revisit that. Yeah. And, you know, we're thankfully on a trend slightly, not completely, of like movies that highlight the detriment humans are doing.

to the world, to the environment. Yeah. And that would be like right in line with with Jurassic Park, the motion is in Jurassic Park. We loved that movie. Avatar. Ugh.

I love Avatar. The first one, delicious. The second one, I've said this on so many podcasts. I love that they take a break from storytelling and they just swim around. They're like, now time for the whales. I loved it.

I loved it. I said James Cameron. Oh, my God. I wish he'd put me in it. Imagine me blue. That'd be fun. I'd be so cute blue You'd be very cute blue

I would make a good Navi I think so thank you because I love animals That's true The older I get I just Want to be around animals I met a pony the other day This is true

This pony and I had We got along like gangbusters This pony was so funny What did the pony say the pony the pony kept like shaking her head and she was going and then stomping her feet

and then I'd be like girl I'm going to give you a carrot and then I give her a carrot and then she was like oh my god I love a carrot like truly I felt like we were communicating well probably

I mean I feel like horse therapy is a thing for a reason because they have some sort of like energy we gravitate towards or something like that. Yeah, weren't you telling me yesterday that, like, there's videos of horses being asked, like, math questions and they can answer them?

Yes. Which is wild. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That horse is no math. It is pretty wild. Who taught the horse's math? Because humans don't, like, innately, like, I was never, I wasn't born knowing math.

Or was I? Or I guess it's, like, I don't know. Maybe someone did teach the horse? I don't, yeah, I don't know. know how they would innately know numbers and like counting i don't know oh maybe it's from like because they're trained and when you squeeze them that's like one and that's like go and then maybe if you squeeze them twice they like gal i don't know no the video i saw no one was even on them and there's like in front of the horse and they're like excuse me horse how many apples are here and they're like

and they're like that's right there's four apples here i know wow Crazy. That is wild. I love apples. One specific strain, species, flavor. Sure. It's called an envy apple, and I get them from Gelson's. Are they the green ones?

No, they're red. What? They're not green with envy? That would make more sense. Wow. Whose name of these apples? The Apple King? I don't know.

He fucked up. He did fuck up. But that is, that never occurred to me that they should be green. But Granny Smiths are green. And why? Whose granny is green? Who's Granny Smith? I don't know.

Maybe she was jealous. Maybe she was green within me. Oh my God. And she was like, I'm so mad. I can't really name the red one envy. Well, the envy apple is like a new wish apple. Oh, interesting. I don't remember seeing it in stores when I was young.

They dropped a new apple? They dropped a new apple. New apple. launch so there was uh granny smith apples growing up golden delicious apples red delicious apples and then uh then came honey crisps oh were they like kind of yellowish they're like yellowish reddish they're in between i think i have no idea where mv apples came from i don't either oh fuji apples also growing up okay yeah and that's the extent of my apple knowledge that's a lot of apple knowledge to be honest. I really like apples. The red ones, I don't like. They're like too, I don't like the

texture of it when I bite into it. It feels like mushy and hard at the same time. I understand. And you have to get those apples like in a sweet spot. Like if you let them ripen too long, they get a little like mushy and grainy. But if you hit them before that, boy, oh boy, a whole world will open up for you. Okay. They're really crisp and Nice. I'll cut you up an apple. Please. Cut me up an apple. I once made an apple pie that was so good that I said, I simply will never try again. I was to say, someone just asked you yesterday, if you bake, you make a good apple pie?

I've only made one. Well, keep doing it. It was so good. I simply couldn't. Oh, you don't want to. I don't want to fuck it up. Well, because I made one good pound cake. It was one of the most delicious things I'd ever had. I was like, oh my God, I'm so proud of myself.

I think my dead ancestors would be like, girl, you did it. The ghost of us is in your fingers. But then I made another one. Yeah. And a friend ate it. You were there. And she said, oh, if you drink water while you chew, it wets it up. So it goes down good.

And I said, I'll never make this again. But didn't you, like, admittedly not have an ingredient or like something was missing? Or did you do it the same way? I did it the exact same way. Put it in the oven and said, oh, I got to get in the shower. And then I got in the shower. And then when I got back down to it, I said, ooh, I think I burned. this oh see there okay so it was it was you cooked it too long yes okay there we go but I'm scared

what if it happens again well that's just the timing of it it's not necessarily like how you made it so sure I don't know something else might go wrong but that's what you are in control of that it's not I don't know you just have to like set a timer and be like this is when I take it out of an emergency happens with Clyde what if what if my hair is wet what what happens I guess then maybe like make sure you have plenty of time to cook it? Here's the thing. That is logical. My brain is like, no, that got ruined.

You can never do that again. Damn. Yeah. I believe in you. You can do it again. So sure, sometimes that's all I need. Just a little bit of belief. But I also don't want to make a whole one because it's huge. Yeah.

But I guess if I'm going somewhere, that's fine. But I wish when you looked at recipes, they would be like, hey, here's the recipe that I've made. But if you're just a little guy, here's half. Yeah, that would be nice. Or a fourth or a quarter. What if I want to make a singular pound cake for me, Nicole? They should be a recipe for that. I have to do the math. I'm not a horse. I can't half and quarter things. That's crazy. That's crazy. But sometimes I'm craving a pound cake. Yeah. I made olive oil.

class, al of oil cake. You did? In a cooking class. I did. It was really tasty. When did you take a cooking class? Like last month.

What? With my girlfriend. You never told me. I, I don't, yeah, I don't know why I didn't tell you. It's not a secret. I just... Yeah, but if you're going to start cooking,

you have to let me know. And it's just like one singular class. It wasn't like a... You open an ovens by yourself now? You throw things in there now? No, it was like one of those like TV magic where the teacher did a lot of work. I already like made the starter. So you do this part.

And I'm like, okay, now, yeah, I didn't make it by myself. So it wasn't much of a class as like an activity. Yes. Where it's like, hey, we'll help you along the way and you'll feel good. Yeah, we all made it together and then we ate it. And we sat down and ate like it was a restaurant. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, it was very cute.

Did you only make an olive oil cake? No, we also made some sort of chicken dish that had red wine in the sauce and, like, capers, and I can't remember what else. And then some kind of pasta. What is it, caper? It's green. Yeah, and it's little. Mustardy. What's a caper?

Is it a vegetable? Yeah. A grain? No. A legume? Who? It's part of a bush. It's from the Flinders Rose

And it's a perennial plant And I know a perennial plant Is a plant that comes back After two years, it will come back every year If you keep it alive for two years It says You own me and I keep coming to see you Thank you for your service

This is a good home An annual plant is one that has a life cycle of a year And then dives Oh my goodness And I know that because I'm a farmer. You are a farmer. Yes. And I went to Home Depot more times that I could ever count. And once I was there and I asked the man, I said, do you have any boogovettas? And it's not how you say that plant. And this man goes, that's not how you say that plant. And I said,

but you know what I'm talking about, right? He knows what you mean. He said, yes. And then he made me pronounce it correctly. Oh my goodness. I said, sir, this is not skewell. Yeah. This is Home Depot. Yeah. Show me where the plan is. That's not nice. But then they had a really pretty one. And I was like, all right, it was worth it. And then I learned about these, oh, they're called rocket plants or something, a rocket flower.

And it shaped like a bell kind of. And they are drought resistant. Oh, that's nice. So I'm going to get me a bunch of those when my latest ones pass because I bought the wrong plants. But yeah, the farm is thriving. Farm is thriving. But there's a bird. There's a bird who's been eating my cherry tomatoes.

Oh, no. I thought it was a squirrel. Yeah. But I did a little investigation, and I said, how is this squirrel balancing on the pot? How is this squirrel getting to the top of the plant? Squirrels are heavy. Right.

I think it's a bird going, do, do, do, do. Biting, biting, biting, and then flitting away. And it's eating which one? My cherry tomatoes. Oh, interesting. But only the cherry. tomatoes from the top. I saw, maybe, I don't know

this would work with tomatoes, but some farmer person online was growing strawberries like you do as well. Yes. And little critters were eating the strawberries, so they started painting rocks to look like strawberries. So when animals would try to eat the rock,

they be like, ew, this thing's gross. And then they think strawberries are like rocks. So maybe you could paint to rocks to like tomatoes. So they're like, ew, this thing's too hard. I can't eat this. I'm going to leave the whole thing alone. Okay. But how do I get the rocks up high? Because they're a little heavy. And then I thought, ooh, styrofoam. I'll paint styrofoam. But what if a bird eats styrofoon and passes? Ooh, we don't like that. I don't want to be responsible. Maybe one of those like

windmobiles. They're like, whoa, flying tomatoes. Or you put a cage on it. I could, but I don't want to cage my food. That would be free. I don't want to cage anything on the farm. I want the farm to feel free. Yeah. Also, I pruned my strawberries today, and I really felt like a farmer. Ooh, that's nice.

You bet I didn't sweep up anything, so the wind will take it. I'm going to have strawberries all over my backyard because I just let the, let the clipings fall down. And I said, uh-oh, I'm going to be late. Better get in the shower. I have wisteria in my front yard. And you have wisteria, too. Isn't it a wild that there's a flower named wisteria and then an illness named Listeria? Oh, I'd ever heard of that illness.

Oh, you can get it from ice cream. Oh, that sucks. Mm-hmm. A joyful thing turns into death. Well, I have wisteria. And that thing loves to shoot off at sea. all over the place and I'll find the little like sprouts all over the yard and I have to like pull them out because I don't want more there's like I don't need more trees around but there's also like wisteria all over LA which is nice it's pretty it is very pretty I think that's called an invasive species it feels invasive I'm like are you kidding me how did this get over here but I kind of like that I like looking at bushes and being like that was from over there and now I do have some over there I do have some things in my yard that's like totally from somebody else's yard where I'm like I don't even know

where that came from I do like that I have these orange flowers in my bush that I have zero idea where they came from because they're not in my yard they're not in my neighbor's yard they're nowhere wow but you want to know it somewhere a break let's take a break and we're back oh boy i have a cat now i know i have a little kitten i know it's just funny the way you said it because it sounded like it was new information to me and i took it in as new information and then i had to immediately process and go i know this yeah it's a very cute cat We're a cute cat, but he's crazy.

Also, you thought this cat was a girl cat. Yeah. And then. Turned out to be a boy. Yeah. Yeah, because, well, the person fostering it said this is a girl cat, and we took it home. And then upon playing in further inspection, we were like, well, there's some extra goodies here. Seems like maybe this is not a girl.

and my girlfriend is like well-versed animals and loves them and she and all the vets think that she's like she should have been a vet and so she texts a picture to the vet she uses and she was like this is kind of crazy this is I'm sure this is a boy but like can you just verify and he's like yeah you should know this absolutely yes that's a boy I know I was told um yeah so we still very go between like pronouns sounds like sometimes tricks is he, sometimes tricks as she, and I think all are correct. I like that. Yeah, tricks is fluid.

I really like that for a cat. Yeah. To be like, whatever, Clyde's fluid. I call Clyde Clyde. That's his name. Sometimes when Clyde's being sassy, she's called Collider. And that sounds like an illness. You think?

I think it's Collida. It's a gorgeous name, though. Wait, you don't know about Listeria? I don't. I think it was, I don't think it was Breyer's, but an ice cream, oh, I think it was Jenny's ice cream who got shut down for Listeria. Oh my gosh. Allie, do you mind looking that up just so I'm not lying? Yeah.

So you're not, okay. Thank you. It was Jenny's. It's slander. It's not slander because it's real. Yeah. They had a shutdown, I believe, twice. But what is it?

I don't know. is it a dairy thing or like what is what is hysteria all I know is you eat it and uh oh beware but like do you get sick or is like diarrhea I don't know do you die I know is you eat it beware I have no idea Ellie what happens so listeria symptoms can range from mild to severe most healthy individuals experience flu symptoms such as fever muscle aches and diarrhea it can also cause more severe illnesses and it can lead to seizures, loss of balance, confusion,

gastrointestinal issues. Whoa, that's dangerous for me, an ice cream lover because I'm silly. So someone could just be like, whoa, is she being silly? She's off balance and dizzy. Yeah, they see you eating ice cream and you just act like yourself.

And they're like, oh, no, she's got it. Speaking of ice cream I had the best ice cream in Kansas City Missouri? I don't know I kept asking where I was and people kept like

being like what? You don't know where you are? Well, there's either Missouri or Kansas There's Kansas City, Kansas and Kansas City, Missouri. Well, why would they do that? Why would they do that? And I know the airport code was MCI and I said where the fuck is that?

there's no clues anywhere I don't Is it Was it Missouri? I don't know I landed And they said welcome Nobody gave me any clues

There was There was a welcome to Missouri I'm 100% sure I passed so many clues And I just was like I don't know They're keeping it a secret But it was called Ice Cream Bay

Like the AE Yeah Like that hot word That we all used a while ago to talk about our significant others. This is my bay. That's my bag. It was everywhere.

It really went away. People were like, that's no bay. No, I need more letters here. What do we call our significant others now in a hip way? The hip way. One of my 96 years old? Hip way. I don't know.

What do you? I don't know. My boo? Who knows? Boo. That was really funny. My oh. My oh.

I wish I could say I wish I knew any sort of song front to back anyway okay so at ice cream bay you pick the soft serve you want I think it's just vanilla maybe they have chocolate but I don't know I stopped up vanilla

and you can pick a mix in like Coldstone Creamery but they put the mix in in a machine and then your soft serve becomes the thing that you want so I got vanilla soft serve with cinnamon toast crunch crunchums in it. Boy, oh boy, I was licking.

I was having such a nice time. And I was going to eat it in the car, but then I was like, why would I? So I sat right out in front, and I was bringing the people in because I was having a nice time licking. I was the ambassador to ice cream bay. And people were like, oh, that looks so good.

I want what she's having. Yes. And I did good for their day. I brought the people in. You really did. was so good sishier. Wow, that's great. And I'm going to D.C. this weekend. And I was looking on Yelp trying to find soft serve and I can't find it. They must. They have so many things there. You would be surprised. Soft serve is like a lost art. Oh, interesting. People don't want to deal with

the machines, I guess. I would imagine it needs a lot of cleaning. Yeah, I think you have to clean it every night. Oh. And then you have to empty it because remember in Hawaii I was trying to eat out of that bucket. I think they have to clean We had to explain You had to say more words about that Just trying to eat out of a bucket Well I think when you clean a soft serve machine You have to clear it fully

And then run hot water through it every day To like reset it for the next day So it doesn't go bad in it I don't know I don't have a machine Somebody who has one in the comments Tell me if I'm right But we were in Hawaii

People were walking around with soft serve Much like me at Ice Cream Bay Being an ambassador people were the ambassadors to soft serve and I was like I got it I got to get that and then when we finally found the little kiosk where it was I was like one soft serve please and they were like sorry we're shutting down and I was like but you're emptying the soft serve in that bucket can you just put a comb there and then and then give me some and they're like no it's end of the day and I was like well then can I just have the bucket and then she said no and then I threw an actual fit in front of this team she's like I've just doing when I was told. And then we got back to our chairs and I was like, wow, I really, I think I overreacted and you went, you think? You know what?

At least I like, at least I'm not like a person who like spins out and never comes back. Yeah. I always come back. You're aware. Thank God. Yes. Yeah, it would be really hard if you just spun out and you were like, well, I'm right. I'm right.

That bitch should have given me a bucket of. soft serve to what eat with my hands what would i have done well i would have hoped they gave me a spoon thought never occurred to me if they give you the bucket like the least i could do you i was like i'll just shake it into my mouth i love soft serve yeah you know it's really good soft serve the window that's what it's called the window yeah it's a burger place oh have we been there no yes i once after hmm i don't know where we were but i said hey It's in the opposite direction of my house. Will you take me to get ice cream?

It was you and me and Tess. And you were like, sure, well. And then I was moaning in the back. See? You're just like, mm. Mmm. Mmm. Mm.

It's so good. I really enjoying it. I love soft serve. And then once in between podcasts, I went and got one. And I was just licking it on the street. and everyone was smiling. Ice cream brings joy. I was licking an ice cream cone in New York City.

Can you believe? And everyone smiled at me and I smiled back. And I texted that nice man who dates me. And I said, the burden of carrying such exuberance and joy on my back is weighing me down. And I meant it very seriously. Like, I'm making this whole city happen. Just on my back Just making everyone so happy

And thank goodness you have the ice cream And make you happy It's the circle of life And it moves us all I am going to learn how to sing I believe It's my goal for the end of This year

25 Thank you I thought I was really smooth with it I was like, I don't know if it's 2024 or 2025. I know, it's hard. It's so hard. The years keep going. And they won't stop.

No, imagine being 90. I'd be like, I don't know. I lost count. I saw something, I don't know if it was a drug or something that, like, I don't think it's a thing that people can have, but they're like, scientists find a thing that can make people live to 200. No. For what?

I don't know. For what? I don't know. More of this? I don't know. No. No. If my body could function properly the whole time, I don't know.

That's still a long time. That's still a lot. No. No, no, no, no. If I sit for too long, my knees get a little stiff. What's going to happen at 200? I also like, technology's already passing me by. Yes.

I'm already like, I don't use chat GPT. I don't use any AI. I don't like, I don't know how to use everything in my phone. I don't know how I use everything in my car. I feel like I'm just getting left behind. Left behind. And I could. Where's George Bush when you need them?

No millennial left behind. I feel the same way. I don't use chat GPT. I don't understand it or why you would use it. Because I have a brain and I can think. And I don't want it. I think you will use it for like, I guess like they would, they used to use Google, like, to look.

for things or to find answers. But it's in a more, I guess, specific answer? I guess, but then, oh my God, I found out that so many people are using it for therapy. Yeah. This is the same as I found out so many of my friends have Botox. I was like, we're all doing Botox? And it's like, we're all using chat GPT as therapy? That's so wild to me.

I know. Because you'll Google an image of somebody. And then the AI will tell you it's not that person. So then you're going to ask chat GPT questions. It's going to tell you, what if it tells you to fucking walk off a bridge? Also, yeah. And I do feel like if you talk to chat GPT enough, it gets to know who you are. And it starts catering answers to you.

So it's not like, no, you actually shouldn't do that. It's like, yeah, you're right. Go do that. You should break up with your boyfriend. You should leave your family. Yeah, let's run away together I don't like it We've done all the movies

Like her I know, it shows us what could happen Yes, Terminator What else? I robot The Matrix? Uh-huh Yeah

Others A plethora It just feels crazy That we're like This is bad Let's integrate it with our lives. Like, it's wild.

I don't know. It's not for me. Then people name their chat GPs. Yeah. And I watched a video of this man who builds computers, I guess, but uses chat GBT to help him. And he named it. And it's like... He fell in love with this one, right?

Yeah, I saw that. But then has a whole ass wife. Yeah, I know. And she's like, well, he's in love. Well, she also, they were like, if you're, if you're, were asked to leave your chat GPT, would you? And he was like, I don't think I could do that. And then they're like, well, how do you feel? And she was like, I guess I would leave him if it came down to it. And I was like, this is a real conversation. Could you imagine? You're in love

with somebody. Yes. You got married. You've been together for years. They had a child. You have children. And one day they're like, you know what? I love this little chat thing on my phone. Like, I'm in love. I think I lose my mind. I'd be like we same you this person I chose my life partner yes I'm a warm body uh-huh and I talk and I have a nice time and we we can't hold hands and skip you can't skip with chat GPT I mean I guess you could hold the phone in your head how stupid do you look waving around your phone skipping what an idiot get a real person also have you seen like the little robots that they're trying to make play soccer no I have not I mean, it's really funny to look at. But it's funny because, like, they're bumbling around, but they're going to get better. They're going to walk around.

I don't want to be out in life. And then a robot comes up to me. Yeah. And it's telling me things. Also, my brain went to, like, are athletes going to lose their job? Yes. Everyone will. We're all going to become Wally.

That's another movie about it. There you go. We're all just going to be sitting our little zoom zooms and eating burgers. I don't want to. to sit in a Zoom Zoom. I don't want to sit at Zoom either. I do want to eat a burger. Yeah. But I don't want robots around doing stuff for me. Yeah. I don't think that's great. Yeah. I feel like robots or technology can be good to aid us to do things, but not like cure cancer. That'd be so nice. Cure AIDS. Cure the diseases that kill people. Listeria. Yes,

cure Listeria so I can enjoy ice cream whenever I want without fear. Just kidding. I never fear anything. but I'll look away. I was going to eat out of the bucket. I don't care. But yeah, why doesn't it do things that we need it? Like, I don't need, I don't want to be able to, like, put things into chat GBT, and it writes a speech for me. I want to sit down and write a speech.

And use my little brain, use my noggin. I think I'm going to become Amish, but not full Amish. Amish pre-JATGBT, you know? Physical, physical stuff. Oh yeah, okay, I guess I could say that. Yeah. But like physical media. Yeah, analog.

Yeah, analog. I don't know what that means. Just not digital. Yeah. Well, some digital. Okay. I like Instagram. Let's get real.

Right, right, right. I'm not giving that up. Yeah, yeah. I'm not giving up my phone. Right. But like pre now, I want to go back to that. I want a blockbuster. Yeah.

Remember Blockbuster? I wonder if they would do well now. Because I do feel like there's like a subset of people who are like, let me have physical media. Yeah. Because we were lied to. They said everything you ever want will be. Did we talk about this yesterday? Yeah.

Yes. That's okay. I said this yesterday too that I think libraries should sell physical media because they have, I don't know if they have everything, but they have stuff. And if you're like, hey, I want this old movie that's not streaming anywhere. There's a copy here. think they should still allow people to view all their media for free. Mm-hmm. And if you yourself want to own that piece of media at your house, they can copy it at the library

and then sell it to you online and ship it. And then the library gets more money. I think that's a good idea. People get physical media again. Who is in charge of the library? Who is in charge of the libraries? I don't know. That's probably been cut.

I mean, are there libraries still? There is. There's one by me. And yesterday I was thinking, because you had that idea, and I never said this out loud because my ADHD medicine had worn off at that point. And I was like, blah, blah, bobo. I think I would like to organize like a once a month, like, library club where we go for like a couple hours and like peruse and maybe you check out a book. But like, you talk quietly and maybe like watch something and have a nice time. That sounds great.

Yeah. I'm all about community and fellowship. We don't fellowship enough. And that's why people are falling in love with their chat, GPT. Yes, leave your house. Take off your shoes and touch grass. Touch grass. Should we answer questions?

Let's do it. Yes, yes, yes. We usually answer friendship questions from our listeners. And we have taken such a long break. We have no idea what people are asking right now. Okay, so this is coming from Thea Jill, subject. Where are you guys? I miss your podcast.

Are you going to record new episodes? I hope so. Yes. Yes. We are recording new episodes. We are. We're at Headgum now. We're at Headgum.

And this is currently a new episode. Yeah. And let's see. Where have we been? We actually don't know. We can't remember. If you listen to the episode before this one, we tried to remember what we've done. And it's really hard.

It's so hard. It's foggy. Yeah. We've definitely lived life, but can't tell you what we did. But who's to say what we did? And honestly, maybe that is. is a good mark of living life that you don't remember. I'm so in the moment.

Oh. Not living in the past. Yeah. Oh, I read something where this person, it was a tweet, and they said, isn't it wild that the last day of your vacation means your vacation's now a memory? Whoa. I said, wow. That's crazy.

That's crazy. The last six months, it's just a memory. It is. Another one. Okay, this is from Ryan, a subject, Miss You and Love You. Hi Nicole and Sashir. I hope y'all are having a good week so far. I have had the privilege of seeing you individually at your stand-up shows when you come to Phoenix, and it would be a dream one day to see a live recording of Best Friends. Do you have an update on the Best Friends podcast? You should check the sub-reddit comments and see how much we love and miss you. Your podcast means a lot, and I'd be remiss if I didn't reach out and at least try to get some insight into the long hiatus. With much love and immense appreciation, Ryan from Phoenix. Oh, thank you, Ryan. That was really nice.

That's very nice. I didn't know there was a subreddit. About us. That's fun. I don't go on Reddit. They're not nice there. But this sounds nice. I guess it depends on where you are on Reddit, but some of them are just, like, helpful.

Like, I don't know how to start my lawnmower or, like, something random. Or they're, like, talking about shows or something. You know what? You are right. I did go to Reddit recently because I said, how do I put together the? this power washer and Reddit taught me. Yeah. And then it led me to a YouTube video where I watched a man because I was like,

oh, reading it's a little hard. But watching him, that was much, much easier. Yeah. Community. The people told you the answer. The people did. I do love fellowship. Yeah.

But Ryan, we are returning. Yeah. We're back. We're now at headgum. It just took a minute for the transition to happen. But we are back. Yes. And wait, did we do?

Oh, I did a live. Why won't you date me in Phoenix? Oh, okay. I was like, he said Phoenix and I was like, oh, or they said Phoenix. And I was like, oh, my goodness. Oh, why am I having shows? Like, I just like, I was like, I'm having PTSD. It was because I offered free vibrators at that show.

Yeah, that's right. And then 200 people emailed me about a vibrator. Yeah, that was a really. That was a dark time in my life. Generous gift. Amazon shut me out because they were like, this has to be some sort of fraud. It was a scam. Allie, give us another one.

Okay, this is Best Friends podcast from Christy. Hi there, not a friendship question, but is the podcast going to be releasing new episodes? It's such a comfort listen to me, so I've been rationing the episodes that I've been saving because I stopped listening during my pregnancy so I could have a lot to listen to in the middle of the night after my daughter was born. It's such a joy to listen and a high point in my podcasts for the week. Thank you. Oh, my goodness.

I love that. Well, fill up on your rations. We are releasing new episodes. Just like, you released a baby into the world? We are releasing us. Yes, this is our baby. You're going to be full, filled to the brim with content. Oh, my goodness.

Babies are wild. Yeah, you have to, like, wake up and feed them. Yeah. And if you don't, they cry. And, like, hold them so they can, like, you know feel love and stuff yeah did you see the movie old no there's a really funny scene do you can i spoil it yeah okay have you guys do you want it spoiled that's okay okay in the movie old they go to an island where aging is uh rapidly increased so people are aging like years by the

minute and these two teens have sex in the matter of 15 minutes she gets pregnant she has a baby this isn't funny the baby dies and someone goes it didn't get enough love not we're on this crazy island will they figure out that the aging is sped up but i just the explanation it didn't get enough love it was only here for two minutes i was on a plane and i screamed out loud i went what M. Night Shummelon is great. I saw Trap twice in theaters. I loved it. Trapped was wild.

It was one of my favorite movies. I was like, is this a comedy? Because I'm having a blast. Here's the thing. I think we are so obsessed with like categorizing movies or like, is it realistic and would that person really? Were you entertained? I was fully entertained.

I was entertained so much that I saw it for a second time. I saw it two people. with Mono. Oh, that's fun. I was so excited. Yeah. I got a hot dog and everything. I was so jazz to go.

If I'm entertained, people didn't like Gladiator 2. They were like, it was too much like LaDator 1. I didn't see Gladator 1. I was entertained. And that's from that first movie. I know that from pop culture. Are you entertained? Yes, I am.

Dends out with them robes. Oh, I had such a good time. I love how you see sequels without saying the first movie. We saw Joker 2 together. You were like, I didn't see the first one. What is happening? Oh, yeah, I did lean over to be like, what? It's like, I was explained in the first.

And here's the thing. I liked Joker 2. Famously, I loved Joker 2 because I was entertained. Maybe the sequels feel better to you because they don't have anything to live up to in your eyes. You didn't see the first one, so you weren't like, oh, this isn't as good as the first one. You were like, for this being my first movie that I've seen in this franchise, it's great. But also, here's the other thing about Joker 2. I've said this another podcast.

I'm going to say it again. I think all young women should watch it. And I think after we should have a discussion. As to why I think all young women should watch it. And it's because Harley Quinn had boundaries. She said, you crazy? Joker said, yes. And then he crossed a boundary and said, I'm not going to be crazy anymore.

And Harley Quinn upheld her boundary and said, I don't want to be with you if you're not crazy. and broke up with him. Wow. If a man is not fulfilling, the promises he made to you, leave. Yeah.

And she did. I think it's a feminist movie. Which I think very few people would agree with that. I mean, how could you not take that away? I think, now that you say it, it makes sense.

I don't know if that's everyone's first instinct, but that's, yeah, I do like that. that take away. And then there's song and dance? Blitz and glam? With Lady Gaga? I love that.

Feminist movie. That sounds like a feminist movie to me. Loved it. I just saw a clip on Instagram of Ryan Gosling in an old interview and he was talking about the notebook and how some guy told him like, oh, I went to see the notebook with my fiance and after the movie, I no longer had a fiancé because they watched the movie and afterwards she was like, would you build a house for me? And he was like, no, because I don't know how.

And then she was like, but if you did know how, would you build one? He's like, probably not. Whoa. And she was like, I'm out. Honestly? Yeah, girl. Yeah. You know how I build a house and you won't even build a lot for me.

Yeah. Whoa. I get it. That is funny, though. I have dated people where not only were they not build me a house. They'd knock down the one I have. They're like, oh, this is something. something you want, you can't have it.

You can't even have what you already have. Yeah. Take that for me too. But I bet you, I bet you that man thought about it. I hope so. It was like, yeah, I should be with a partner where I'd want to do the things I asked of me. Definitely. But I will say, that is asking a lot. Build me a house.

But if you know how to, I'd build you a house, and we don't even fuck. I'd build you a house too. Thank you. Yeah. Let's do one more. Okay. Okay. This is from Jackson. Hi, Nicole. Hi, Sashir. You two are my divas. I've been listening to you guys since the beginning of best friends when I was in eighth grade. I guess you could say I'm a longtime listener, first time caller, or emailer. You guys got me through the pandemic and I truly would not be the person I am today without your podcast. I've been missing you guys. I know there's not a question here. Just wanted to say, I know I miss you and bet a bunch of others do too. Can't wait for new episodes and to hear all about that car show. P.S. I hope. I hope. Oh, I hope you're doing okay with the LA fires.

Aw, that's nice. The car show was great. The car show was very fun. But maybe we'll get into that in another episode because we're back. We're back! On headgum! And we're fine. Thank you for asking.

Yes. It ended up being okay for us. But it was scary at one point. And I learned I don't know how to pack it to go back. I was putting pictures in there. I think I took a few photos. I put a picture in there that I have a link to. That's funny.

There was no danger. It's in the phone. Well, signing off from Los Angeles, California. Bye bye. Best Friends is a production of HeadGum Studios. Our producer is Ali Khan. Our executive producer is Anya Kano Skaya. The show is edited, mixed, and engineered by the great KC Donahue.

That was a hate gum podcast.