Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata - Sasheer Jumps at Things That Are Normal (w/ Betsy Sodaro & Gilli Nissim)

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

This week, Nicole and Sasheer are joined by best friends Betsy Sodaro (A Funny Feeling, We Love Trash) and Gilli Nissim (The Other Two, Twisted Metal, AP Bio)! The group gets into the story b...ehind Betsy and Gilli's matching shirts, memories from their trip to Bulgaria where Betsy filmed a commercial playing an eye mite, and the absolute joy of living with a best friend!Watch this full video on YouTube and follow below!Follow Nicole: Twitter, Instagram, TikTokFollow Sasheer: Instagram, TikTokLike the show? Rate Best Friends 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts!Have a friendship question for Nicole and Sasheer to solve? Leave us a voicemail at (323) 238-6554‬ or write in at nicoleandsasheer@gmail.com.Best Friends is a production of Headgum Studios. Our producer is Allie Kahan. Our executive producer is Anya Kanevskaya. The show is edited, mixed, and engineered by Richelle Chen.This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Best Friends via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a headgum podcast. Your first great love story is free when you sign up for a free 30-day trial at audible.ca slash Wondery. That's audible.ca slash Wondery. Hello, this is shea. We have guests Does your little paper say that we have guests today? It does and it says it right on that first page And I was flipping
Starting point is 00:00:40 Yeah I said what's going on on this other page Should we introduce our guests? Yes, let's do it I think the entries are just on the first page It is. Do you want me to do it? Get it!
Starting point is 00:00:54 Why don't you leave a paper if you weren't even going to do it? Can you pronounce your last name for me? Nisim Nisim, okay But whatever comes out, it's fine Nisim Okay We have two of our very fun friends
Starting point is 00:01:06 Gilly Nisim Nisim Nisim I want to say Nisim I heard something different Nisim Nisim Wait, have I been
Starting point is 00:01:15 mispronouncing your last name This whole time? I'm very lucy-goosey on the last name but non-negotiable on the first name Well how would you How else would you pronounce Gilly Nisim
Starting point is 00:01:24 But I don't You saw my face I couldn't do it Don't worry about it Gilly. People say Nisim, but I like Nisim. Nisim.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Nisim. Nisim. We have Gilly Nisim. Who is a writer, who is a writer, performer known for her work on Twisted Metal. The other two.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Pretty smart. An AP bio. With Betsy Siddaro. A performer, writer, comedian known for a work on ghosts. Bob's Burger, Superstore, Puss and Boots, The Last Wish. Also co-hosts the podcast,
Starting point is 00:01:58 A Funny Feeling, And we love trash with Mono Agapion. Look at our friends! Good job. You did. That was good. Have you guys seen that Puss and Boots? No.
Starting point is 00:02:12 It's so good. It's so good. It's so cool. The character that Betsy voices is like, it's so fun seeing it. What's the character? I play one of the Serpent Sisters. One out of two. And we're kind of just like henchmen kind of.
Starting point is 00:02:28 hench women and I went in because they never gave me the full script or whatever and they're like you're the serpents come read for one of the serpent sisters and I was like okay serpent sisters so I go in and I'm all like
Starting point is 00:02:43 and like finally they stopped me they're like you don't have to do that I was like oh I thought they were like snakes or something and they're like no don't worry about it don't worry about it and I still thought that the characters were going to be like snakes fair because the lead is a cat
Starting point is 00:03:00 and then I saw the movie I was like they're humans and like they had me improvise a ton and so I was improvising like snake specifics and like let's slither
Starting point is 00:03:14 like all this stuff going off for like five minutes straight and they're like this is so good this is so good and then I saw the movie I was like
Starting point is 00:03:22 they're human they couldn't just say like it's a human that's really funny I think they were like, this is funny. They honestly probably still talk about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Remember when we let Betsy think that she was a snake? Honestly, that's on them. Yes. Serpents in the title. Yeah, Serpent sisters, yeah, cats the lead. You sound so normal in this, but then it's so unfair because you seem so crazy. It makes me crazy. It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Were there snakes like around them? Do they have snake pets? They had snake tattoos. Who doesn't? They're just like a gang. That's like a little gang that you were like, we'll do your dirty work. It's really funny.
Starting point is 00:04:05 It's a fun movie. I was blown away by how good and fun it was. It's beautiful. Antonio Banderas is the Puss and Boots. You better believe it. Yeah. Sexy cat. That's a sexy cat.
Starting point is 00:04:16 My goodness. What are they going to do? Puss and Boots is from Shrek, right? Yeah. When are they going to do a don't get a movie? Oh. Is there not a straight to do video? Yeah, that feels like a little.
Starting point is 00:04:27 I don't think we would have watched it if there was. Right. We love Shrek. I'm sure. I mean, Shrek is great. Yeah, Shrek's great. But I think I've only seen Trek 1 and Trek 2. Three is okay.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Yeah. We watched three and we're like, I can't believe how good this was, but I don't know if I trust. Yeah, I think we like, eat pot and then let's watch Shrek 3 and we're like, this is so good. I'm also in Austin Powers three apologists. I think that we were expecting it to be exactly. as good as one and two and it's like it's the third one it's not going to be and everyone said at the time how bad Beyonce
Starting point is 00:05:03 was she's pretty good she's like fine and that's a tall order to be in a big comedy she was so young and when you rewatch it she's fine she's fine people were like tearing her down for it I remember at least like the idiots in my tiny little world
Starting point is 00:05:20 it really the movie holds up I like kind of recently and Betsy thought This thought, right? That it was like, it sucks. It's so bad. And then we re-rash. I was like, pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah. It was a big mystery. It's pretty good. How do you choose the movies that you guys watch together? Ooh. Oh, that's a good. That's good. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Kind of, yeah. Let's just keep admiring the question. Yeah, really good. It's too good to even answer. Yeah. What's the next one going to be? How do, kind of if we're just in moods or something. Yeah, in moods or like, well, because the big reveals that we are roommates.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Yes, yeah. We would probably watch stuff together even if we weren't, but we have, like, a lot of opportunities. Yeah. I think, oh, wow, just sort of in the mood. Like, the categories are like prestige stuff that neither one of us thought we would like, but we waited a year. And now we're ready and we like it. Yes. Like Squid Game.
Starting point is 00:06:24 We waited so long after it came out. Yeah. This is really good. Did you guys hear? Yeah. I would absolutely bring it up. I was like, did you guys watch this or I guess two years ago? That's what I do.
Starting point is 00:06:33 It's really good. Yeah, we just watched the Alien Earth TV show. That wasn't too late, but we watched it really slow. And then like 90s rewatches. That's a big one. And then drag race is sort of like the baseline. Yeah, kind of went in down. Like, pop on some drag race.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Yeah. What's your favorite season? This year has not seen it. sorry to ask and talk about it. You don't want you to feel unincluded. Disincluded? Boxed out. Put in the corner.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Like a free. A free! That's good for you. You're allowed to not watch stuff that everyone's watching. It's not like on purpose. I just haven't got into it. It was on purpose. She came to my house and she said, I will not practice.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Yeah, she spit on me. No, thanks. Oh man I don't know what I don't know if I have I really love season four with Latrice Royale and Sharon Needles
Starting point is 00:07:36 um Biffy O'Hare because it felt like it was kind of the the show was really getting in the groove of what it's become but still sloppy in the sense of like social media wasn't as huge
Starting point is 00:07:52 so the queens didn't give a shit and we're like mean to each other but also really talent. Yeah, I really love season four. Yeah. I definitely like Bob, like the, with my favorite queens who win.
Starting point is 00:08:08 So like Bianca's season, Bob's season. Yeah. And then like Alaska's season and that all-star season is pretty. It's so fucked up. What happened? Like the like Ralaska Talk stuff is very juicy. Juicy.
Starting point is 00:08:22 And embarrassing in a good way. That is my favorite challenge. It's the Can I get it? Amen? I think it's the funniest challenge in the history of the show. So it's like, we are the world but with drag queens
Starting point is 00:08:34 and they have to sing and Roxie Andrews has a line where she goes, my sequins gown because she didn't know that a Sequin was one. She thought it was called a Seekwins. But my favorite season is season seven.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Yes. Everyone thinks it's the worst one. But every challenge is an acting challenge and nobody there is an actor. Give me some people in that season. That is Ginger Minge, Violet Chotchky. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Jasmine Masters. Katia. Yes. Oh, yeah, that's a great one. Kennedy. Yeah, sometimes it's like, how did you decide? Like, did you see this crop? And you just said, like, let's just throw a bunch of acting challenges at them.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I think they come up with all the challenges beforehand and then do not adapt it to who they actually cast. Fun me. And they go, we're just doing it. Great. Um, what do you watch? Thanks for including me. Do you guys watch stuff together as non-rumate friends? We've watched you together.
Starting point is 00:09:35 I love that. Okay. Because, Gary. I was like, when did we watch New? I was like, when did we watch Gilly? All the time. Through the window. We watched, yeah, we started you here and then went to Italy.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Spent like a day in Italy in bed watching you. Now, that's a good vacation. It was good. Lovely. Yeah. Very romantic. That's really nice. Oh, we also watched 13 reasons why.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Oh, boy. Yeah. I like that one. You really just gasped the whole way through. Well, that show was funny because season two was terrible. Awful. And then they did season three. And then you didn't have to watch season two to understand season three.
Starting point is 00:10:13 They did like a recap with the lines in like the first 10 minutes. So you had no questions. And I was like, oh, that's nice. Thank you for that. Yeah. That's so funny. We really liked cruel summer. This is a funny thing about, like, being late 30s is like, I love a teen stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:29 I do, too. But now I'm like, that boy is hot. Is that bad? I feel comfortable. They're old. They're old. They're old. They're old.
Starting point is 00:10:39 If they're in their 30s, let them be in their early 30s. I have no qualms about that. Let every actor playing high school be in their 30s. And if they're in college, they can be 40. Yeah. Because I watch the karate kids. Those weren't kids. Those bullies were so old.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Beating the Ralph Machu-Bichib-Jib-J-B-J-B-J-B-J-Has-Name. You nailed it. Machiato? What is it? Machiato? I think I said it. Machio. Machio.
Starting point is 00:11:10 It's a great name. It's such a great name. It is a good name. I watched the Casper with Christina Ricci. Oh, yeah. Yes, Devin Chaventzawa. And when he pops up, I was like, I'm such a little cutie and I'm like wait
Starting point is 00:11:24 I think he's like 10 in this movie Yeah that's a child I think it's okay to go That's a little cutie because you saw that as a kid Yeah my kid self And you've got a crush on it I have justified it to myself In the same way
Starting point is 00:11:37 I have also decided that that is true Yeah It's my inner child speaking Not my adult self Yeah yeah He's in a movie called Phenetic Has anyone seen it? Have you seen it?
Starting point is 00:11:49 With John Javolda Yeah directed by frienders Did we watch it Together, maybe? Did we? With mono? Maybe. Did we want?
Starting point is 00:11:57 Directed by Fred Durst and where Devin Sawas character is always listening to Limp Biscuit, right? Like, I feel every time his car pulls up, it's like, all about the dooky, did it? It's just like, this is so silly. Yes, and John Travolta makes every choice you would never expect. Huge. Just huge swings. This is wild.
Starting point is 00:12:16 It's insane wig. Wild swings. The wig is just like that on his head. That's fine. He rides a bike a lot. A bicycle? Yeah. It's a very interesting movie.
Starting point is 00:12:26 It's weird. Is it like someone's obsessed with somebody else? Yes, John Travolta is obsessed with Devin Sawa. Oh. Yeah. Someone's standing him. What? I said someone's standing him because Devin Sallow was the stand for M&M.
Starting point is 00:12:42 That was a deep glared. Deep, deep, deep. That was good. Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you so much. Great. I have a query about friendship. Yay.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Okay. When did you decide to be best friends? That question is not on here. And I love that. Wow. You still refer to it. Decide. Decide.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I'm not even sure exactly how we met. Do you know? No. It's very clearly through the UCB stuff. Yeah. And I think we were like part of a group, right? Like a larger friend group. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:19 And you were never on teams together? No. I don't think we even took a class together. Betsy might have already been on Harold Knight when I was a student at Skewer. And then I think of it this way a lot. And I literally talked about this yesterday. I'm like, it feels like when we all started doing comedy, we met like a hundred people. And I was like, all of you are cool and mentally well.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And we're going to be friends forever. And I'm so excited about holding on to this, like, group of hundred people. And then, like, five years in, it's. It's like, oh, some of you people turned out to be mentally unwell, mean, just sort of liars or you, like, find a new best friend every year and it's always the other person's fault. And after a while I'm starting to think maybe it's you, like, so the like group, like squid game style like does kind of whittle down. And we still have this big lovely friend group of which I think we're all part of. Of course we are. yeah like I think it was just maybe maybe that I got to move into the house with Betsy and Mono and we discovered already you guys must have agreed that I could join such an intimate thing of like living together and then it was like oh me and Betsy both we like the things we like and we like to do them and we don't we'll do the like the vegetable of life of like the things we like have to do
Starting point is 00:14:47 and we like have it together we're not like total lunatics but then like when we have the opportunity to have fun we have as much fun as we can so it was like I think it was a slow thing because I feel once you when you got on Winslow
Starting point is 00:15:02 a team at UCB a team at UCB with Mono and Mary who I was living with at the time it was that thing where it's just like oh yeah we now all party together nonstop and hang out nonstop and so that kind of did it and then yeah and then mary moved out and gilly moved it i slid right in
Starting point is 00:15:25 and it was immediately like this is really fun yeah and chill yeah hell yeah and we have now lived together for a long time yeah because how long was it before but there's been great yeah there was a year break i'm not totally i'm bad with that stuff but i too like eight seven eight years and then a year break and then now I've been back for five years or something we're coming on. Yeah. Yeah. So over 10 years, I think. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a choice we get to continue to make and it's like, it's so fun. It's really nice. I love you so much. I love you, dude. I love that. It's so nice. Yeah, but it wasn't like, oh, we met on this day and I, yeah, it was definitely like a long, a nice long slide into best friendship for sure. And Mono, the person that we're
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Starting point is 00:18:13 as roommates. Like maybe you have experience with other roommates that you've had. Ooh. Whoa. I've only been friends in L.A.
Starting point is 00:18:23 with other friends. Yeah, that's a good one. Ooh. There's a lot. One thing to start is that Gilly always will get fun, weird snacks and we'll always be like,
Starting point is 00:18:36 you got to try this thing. And it's just like, okay, what is it? And like, it'll be something last night it was like these fun, peas that were covered in what? Like masala peas?
Starting point is 00:18:46 Masala peas and they were really good. They were really good. It was in the like ethnic aisle at Albertsons and it couldn't have been a more narrow section of the grocery store because it was like, I love groceries just in general. And so it was like the Indian stuff, the Greek stuff and the Mexican stuff was all in an aisle like as wide as I am. Like, you know, wider. And it was, they're crunchy peas. so it's definitely a snack food and they have just the best evening sounds good they're really good
Starting point is 00:19:19 that's so nice thank you i'm glad you like it what did you have you had cucumber cucumber cucumber melons yeah Nicole came over for cucumber melons and gillie made she made me a salad it was so nice it was so fun that you came we got to like hang out i think you came for like a clean two hours no more and less yeah she like ate a salad and then we all like hung out We played that weird game. We played that weird game. And then it was just kind of like, okay. And I was like, got to go.
Starting point is 00:19:45 It was delightful. It was like a little drive-by of friendship. That was really nice. Yeah. And I took some home. They were. They're awesome. They're little cucumbers, but they're also watermelons or something.
Starting point is 00:19:56 They look exactly like a watermelon the size of a cherry tomato that they're like shrunken down with the pattern of like green and dark green. And then the flavor is like a lemony melon, I think is only in the visual. Like, yeah, if it was cucka lemon, I think it would be more accurate. Right. It was nice. But getting to say cucka? Cucca melon.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Have you seen, I just saw this yesterday, a Buddha's hand? No. It's like this, it's a citrus, but it's like little fingers coming out of like a little ball and it looks strange. It gave me a chill when I saw it. I was like, excuse me? It looks like a little like witch is putting. a spell on you. It's like, like, food and vegetables are wacky. Wacky. The farmer's market where every time we go, I go pretty regularly and Betsy will come a lot and it's just
Starting point is 00:20:47 sort of like, I've never seen that in my life. Yeah, like, what the hell is that? Like, it's so it's like, how did we figure out to eat this stuff? Yeah. I feel if I was a cave person, I'd be like, that's scary. Yeah, mostly poisonous. We got to smash it with a rock. Like, that's too freaky. That, like, that sounds so freaky. We're all so hungry that night, but we're like, we're glad we got rid of that free. That was the right call. That was the right call. We have a lemon tree in the backyard that sometimes the lemons that grow are like,
Starting point is 00:21:15 ugly. They're weird. They're weird. I would like to find a Buddha's hand. You got it. I'll report back. I want to find a custard apple. Yes, I've had. Are they good? Also known as a sita fall. They are good. And Cheramoya, like they're native to L.A, but then they're also in India.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Cheramoya, like the elementary school by UCB. They like grow somewhere. They're really good They're really aggressively sweet But it's kind of this like You know how I think of avocados As like you're crazy It's like creamy
Starting point is 00:21:48 Yes it is crazy And kind of like not smoky per se But it's like a really sexy flavor It's sunny silky like It's fucking It's fucking fantastic A Cheramoia is the sweet version of that Where it's like
Starting point is 00:22:03 People say it's like nature's ice cream I don't think that's You shouldn't tell someone going in that this is going to taste like ice cream. Don't ever do that. Yeah, that's a bad idea. But it has sort of a like interesting element that is more than just sort of like the citrusy sweetness of a fruit. And where did you get it from? The farmer's market.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I'll get you one. I don't know when they're in season. I bought seeds for them and I planted them. And I also planted Japanese persimmons that I've been stealing from my neighbor. Yes. Amazing. Yeah. Fun.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Because I couldn't figure out where the seeds were. So I just put the whole thing in dirt. But that works sometimes. That works. Yeah, it can work, I think. I don't know. Boy, I hope. But my, one of my favorite things, because there really are a lot, is that Betsy is really good at, like, any time of the year, we could be hanging out.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Like, we could do it low key where it's just her and I watching TV, but also friends can come over and we can watch a movie. And I am, like, an active person, but I think I'm doing more informal hangs thanks to living with Betsy. I'm just like, you'll be like, is it cool if these two friends come over? and we'll all watch a movie, and it's like, yeah, we can do that. Like, we go out on weeknights and stuff, but it's like, it can also be just as fun that we're, like, drinking beers watching a movie at home. Like, you're really good at organizing that, and I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I do like trying weird beers. Yeah. What's the weirdest beer you've tried? Have you had Donna's pickle beer? Yes, and I loved it. Really? I thought it was so good. I'm a big picklehead.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Oh. We love pickles. You got to get to Jimmy John's. I know. We got to do the pickle sandwiches. Oh, I think it's awesome. Yeah. It seems wet.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Like, it seems hard to eat. Like, everything is going to shoot out. Yeah, did they put, like, a bunch of sinks all around Jimmy John so everyone at their table can eat in a trough? I don't want to eat that unless I have a drain nearby. I think I was trying to think of some of the Bud Light came out with these, I think, seltzers a couple of falls ago where it was like pumpkin spice. Oh, no. Some more flavored.
Starting point is 00:24:13 No. Oh, God. And like two other things. And I remember having friends over. I think you were not home. But we watched a spooky and we're like, let's have like a tasting of this. And they were so gross. I'm already not a big seltzer head.
Starting point is 00:24:31 But then to add like some more flavoring and pumpkin. Spice. That was pretty nearly. As a beer those had a chance. Potentially, yeah. A pumpkin spice beer sounds like it could. We've had a, we every fall we'll get a bunch of pumpkin beers. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Oh, yummy. I wish I liked
Starting point is 00:24:49 beer. Everyone looks like they're having such a kicking back a beer. Looking so full and uncomfortable. I do like beer. And I think I need to like remember to drink more beers because I love martini.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Gilly's got me into martinis. Gilly and Tony, it's been a big, like, I love a martini. I'm going to make, I made an artichoke last night, and did, I feel like I've actually said this in this room before, but on another podcast, artichoke liquid is a natural diuretic. Like, if you boil an artichoke, the, like, water that's left over is, like, brilliant blue-green, and it is tasty because it tastes like lightly vegetal and salty. and it, you just are like,
Starting point is 00:25:39 like, you are like, scatting. You are scatting. And as long as I am near a toilet, occasionally I like to drink it, but I was like, I bet you I could make a martini out of this. Whoa. And I looked it up and you can and I'm going to make us martinis. Maybe tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And then you'll be. We got to clear it out. I think just a little bit would be okay because I am planning on going to like a fun lesbian thing and I'm going to be looking for love. so now that I say it I don't think you should drink in my mom I mean I will say the place that has it they have like kind of individual bathrooms
Starting point is 00:26:13 you know where it's like every place I go I'm like how is the toilet situation okay I could diary in there just the like relaxing feeling of like I'm good I'll be fine if I have to I'll shit anywhere
Starting point is 00:26:29 Hey man I have no qualms about it people are like I can't shoot in public I can't shoot on vacation Get real. Grow up. I'll shit any old place. I can't stop shitting in public. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:41 It's so easy. Once you just have, like, once you hit that point of where it's like, well, I have to. No matter what, then you're the game on and just be like, I can poop anywhere. Anywhere. Have you pooped in the ocean? That I haven't done. I know you have. Why?
Starting point is 00:26:57 Yes, I have. Interesting. Oh, my God. I totally forgot. And, like, yeah. Yeah. Thank you for reminding me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Do you be shitting in public? I do you be shit in public, yeah, yeah. When needed, yeah. You don't save it up to the day. No, I never think I'm going out. I'm going out. But also I've never been like, I have to leave this establishment because I need to go shit at home. I'm like, I can sit here and then stay here.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I did that one time at a UCB New Year's Eve party. I was like, I have to run home and shit. And I pooped my pants. in our alley I was running, running and we have like our living room windows are exposed
Starting point is 00:27:41 and I look in and I see the toilet and I just didn't go I think I texted only Tony I was like I poop my pants I'm going to bed
Starting point is 00:27:50 and I wasn't even like drunk or anything it was just kind of like too much okay I got to like just take a shower and go to bed it was like
Starting point is 00:28:00 my favorite pair of pants that I just threw away I was just like you know what self out my night's done well that's the wrap on me and then I was like you know what I can I could probably poop at UCB and be fine like yeah especially well we don't live all that far but when it's an emergency you were you tempted it really pushed it one time leaving our house we we usually walk to UCB because it is a eight minute walk I've timed it and um uh
Starting point is 00:28:29 mono and I are on the same team I don't think he lived with us anymore but he was just over so we could go together. And as we were walking down our driveway, I wanted to make Mono laugh. So I went, hey, and I stopped in place and, like, really, like, ripped what I thought was a fart. And we were, like, kind of cutting it close on time. And we didn't have enough people. So I was like, I shit myself. I pushed too hard.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I had to run in. And there wasn't time. So I really just did an underwear switch and then did go and perform. And it was good. I like said goodbye to them and then I just hear right outside like a bunch of laughing and I see Gilly come sprinting back
Starting point is 00:29:11 and be like I shit my pants and just then come and leave and I was like whoa I did like a Fiona have you seen Shrek the musical it's really good you should I did a quick change is my point
Starting point is 00:29:25 I did a Broadway quick change of like you wouldn't believe how quickly she was Did you go out after or did you go home and watch that? I think I felt great. I did get in the shower. Oh, oh, sorry, I should say.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I chucked the underwear, put it under water while I have like a bath shower. So I was able to like get just my ass under the water, wipe it up. Underwear was going to be dealt with later. But it did get a nice like rinse. And then I put on new underwear, same pants and was out the door again. Same pants. That's the outfit I decided on. Nothing will stop me today.
Starting point is 00:30:01 I have to come up with two outfits in one night. No. I don't think. That is very efficient. Yeah. I mean, I hate to be late. I'm actually remembering I did actually live an event because I had to shit. And I, because beforehand, I had just bought dried apricots.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Because I was like, yes. I'll be an apricot girl, I guess. And didn't know that that's like what a lot of people use two shit. And so I was like popping them I was just like snacking on them before I left And I was like do too too, had a great time And then at some point I was like I'm gonna die I felt like I was going to explode
Starting point is 00:30:42 And like I had this like tight-waisted skirt And I was like ha and I was getting a headache And then I went to the bathroom and I was like dizzy I was like I think I have to leave completely And then I remember being in the car And I had my head out the window trying to get air And then like was crawling to the bathroom by the time I got home
Starting point is 00:31:01 and then it was just like on the toilet the rest of the night I'm so sorry Did you look it up then and we're like oh well then my boyfriend at the time was like
Starting point is 00:31:10 oh this is my granddad eats to me the prunes cousin oh is it I mean you basically ate a bunch of prunes it's fibrous and I had no idea
Starting point is 00:31:20 oh boy that that is not you so much I mean the yes you had to leave to shit but like you were sick I was ill I was so trapped to hurt your head it took my
Starting point is 00:31:30 whole body. I'm sweating. Whoa. That's like, I tell you, that's the, you know, trying to be healthy. It'll get you. It will get you. It's not nice. That's a fruit that we should smash.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Yeah. Get rid of that. Yeah. Let's get it. I don't like prunes. They're weirdly too sweet for me. Right. They are too sweet for being the like, is a prune a date's friend?
Starting point is 00:31:59 A dates friend? It's a plum. Oh, it's a plum? Yeah. And I feel like plums and apricots are a little closer, but I don't know. Like almonds and peaches are related. What? Get out.
Starting point is 00:32:14 You get out. How dare you. You're a witch. You're a witch. It's crazy out there. Have you had a blue banana? What? I would love to.
Starting point is 00:32:28 No. Where are they? A blue banana. I don't know. It's also called like the ice cream of bananas. Stop doing it. Have you had a gross Michelle banana? Gross Michelle.
Starting point is 00:32:39 It's a seeded banana. And apparently it's the strain of bananas we used to eat before a bacteria. It's called a gross Michelle? Yeah. A strain of bacteria came and cleaned them all out. I know a little about the. Yeah, cavendish. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Like dead. Sean Diston was telling me all about bananas the other day. That's funny. Blue gross Michelle, what did Michelle do? She was nasty. Gross. Yeah, how did that name come about? That's a mean name.
Starting point is 00:33:08 I don't know. I also might be saying it wrong because I called it a cadaver, but I think it's Cavendish. I think you're right. According to distend that like the, you know, runts, the banana flavor. That's, yes, it's based on the gross Michelle banana. Michelle, come on. Funny. And I love a run.
Starting point is 00:33:24 What if you finally got, like, invented something, you finally get to put your name on it and they're like, yeah. Grossman. They're like, which Michelle made this? The Rose-M-Same. Oh, dang it, you guys. I said I wanted my name in it, but not like this. One thing, and this is leading, Gilly has gotten me to really try stuff I never thought I would.
Starting point is 00:33:47 A ton. Whether it's an experience or a lot of food. And so I've been on a seafood journey that Gilly has helped me. And we went to Kinn Khan, which is this awesome restaurant right by Courage Bagels. And a man, we were lapped, there was a man there who, how did he, he described, what was it, uni, which was, it's one of my favorites, which it's sea urchin. And at that point, it was still sort of like a hair too far. Yes, where I'm like, I don't know if I can, I will eat that.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And he called it savory sea bun. Yes. And Gilly immediately was like, don't call it that. Like to this dude who was just like, he was from a like caviar farm or something. Yeah, his like family owns like salmon row farm. Don't call it that. It's a, it's like the most fantastic restaurant. I've been a bunch and it's great. Every time the menu's different and the chef is cool and we are like kind of friendly with her now and I've gotten drunk with her a bunch. And it's a little social. So it's not so weird that he was chatting with us. Yeah, we were all at the bar and it was kind of. just like whoa yeah the chef will sort of purposely be like like making connections of like oh you you said this that person thinks that like she wants it to be so this man was not like I wasn't rejecting him speaking to us completely how dare you in this very like delicate journey of like I want this to be positive all the way through and he called it sea butter which is like that's a dairy product I didn't know if that was going to gross you out and I just was like no it's not it's not see butter it's not see better like no get out of here
Starting point is 00:35:27 man and then I had it and I was like it's kind of like sea butter it's totally a fair description I just was like worried that he was like you were sleeping beauty about to prick the spindle and I'm the witch like yes and then he was coming up being like don't do that
Starting point is 00:35:46 I was worried you were going to like see the run away right right um yeah that's fun I do have um I like to be I hope people think of me as like a generous person or like fun or whatever, but it is a compulsion that comes deep within that if I have said like, will you have a bite and someone says no thanks?
Starting point is 00:36:07 I act like it's fine, but I'm so upset for a long time. I feel there have been a couple of times that I've had to be like, but don't, it's nothing personal. I just do not want this or right now. I just don't want it right now. I'm trying to get better at like, roll away you'll offer and you just move it on because for me I'm like you're going to like it
Starting point is 00:36:30 it's so good I don't want you to miss out on this experience like yeah so I I hope I've gotten better as well of like be cool if they say no like it's not a real offer if you're forcing it it's not a nice thing but like so funny I do I do know certain things like you don't like getting fruit when we're at the farmer's market it's too early And I worry it'll make me poop. You know, because I'll have an empty stomach and I'm like, I can't pop peaches and stuff because that will make me poop. It's fibrous.
Starting point is 00:37:04 It's very fibrous. Betsy, do you do sushi? I've started to, yeah. I'm on a sushi journey because I didn't like the texture. Okay. But then once I got past the texture, I was like, oh, I like the taste. Yes. And also it's very foreign looking to me because I didn't grow up with it.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Right. But I think it's called salmon roe. Is it the orange globe? Yeah. Yes. I call them pop-ums because they pop in your mouth. They make me laugh really hard, yes. They are nature's gushers.
Starting point is 00:37:34 For some reason, that word. The nature's ice cream, fuck off. Fuck off. Nature's gushers. And you also like soup now? Man, soup's great. Yay! I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Growing! I discovered the love of soup with you. That's true. We were on an air plane. Well, we were flying. to Africa. And I think you were sleeping. Or maybe you were eating.
Starting point is 00:37:57 I don't remember. When they gave me this curried soup. And I was like sipping on it and I was like, oh, well, well, what? And then when we got to Africa, I kept having soup. I love that. Fun. No, I like ramen? That's soup with chumcums.
Starting point is 00:38:12 That's like Gilly's number one. Yeah, I love ramen. Where do you get ramen from? There's a lot of places. I had like a document for a while where I was trying to like try all of, not only all of L.A.'s. but everything on the menu. That's daunting.
Starting point is 00:38:27 And yeah, I stopped because they keep opening new places. It was like a treadmill. I couldn't keep up, never ending. But I really like Silver Lake Ramen, just straight up, Tatsu Ramen. My mouth is flooded. I would love to eat ramen. My favorite place that I've gone to multiple times is Toto Ramen in New York. So every time I go, they do.
Starting point is 00:38:53 say tan so I think it's like a chicken based broth but it's still so like heavy meaty creamy and then they put pork choshu which is the like sliced and ground pork it is so good I go by myself I keep my glasses on because they protect my eyeballs I put so many napkins from the steam and also the the soup splash yeah eating ramen alone is like my dream is to go to that place in Japan where you can do it alone. I did go to a place in New York where you're in a little stall and they just open up a flap, put your bowl
Starting point is 00:39:31 in and I think I must have like a goblin because I like to raise the noodle high and stop it in, which at a restaurant I know I shouldn't do. Here's the thing. I think you should. I think more people should have fun eating. I'm a plate liquor and I stop.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Yeah, Galey likes plates. I think the first time I went like Like where I was aware Betsy was going to see it I was like I'm going to lick my plate You're like that's okay Where were you that you were in our At home?
Starting point is 00:40:07 Because I think maybe I like wasn't doing it In front of you and you know That's a cartoon trait It's a very funny My mom's a plate liquor too We're plate liquors They come from the family of plate liquor My mother's mother was a plate
Starting point is 00:40:21 Yes, we are proud. Plate liquors. After Elis Island, we're the plate liqueurs. We are. It's so funny. It's easier to wash your dish. That's not why I do it. That's not why I do it.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I like what I'm eating. That's not why I do it. I like what I'm eating. But now I don't even, I don't have to like preface it anymore. I feel if there's like if we're ever talking like, well, Gilly's eating or something and then it just goes silent. I'm like, she's like it. She'll be done in a second
Starting point is 00:40:52 She'll answer the question She just needs a moment Wilma does it too Wilma is a dog You know what she does Yes she's a dog so This time of year can be tough The holidays are near
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Starting point is 00:42:48 Oh, yes, you got to talk about these shirts that you have. This was Betsy. I wanted us to make shirts for Wilma, the Golden Retriever, her birthday two years ago. And I made one that said, my girl is young, dumb, and loves balls in her mouth. And then Betsy made that one that says, this birthday girl has six tidings that's a picture of Wilma with three bikini tops on which we did try to make which she was a puppy
Starting point is 00:43:18 we had done in real life I like cut up a shirt and it was really funny it was so cute. She looked like a little whore she looked like what like gypsy or like it was so funny and I got jealous because Betsy's was better and I was like I hate I like would I will do
Starting point is 00:43:36 anything to avoid copy or, like, being seen, like, or anyone even thinking that I've copied. But I was like, can I copy yours? I like, or is better? And you were like, no problem. You're like, I made this one. But every time someone's like, that's cute, I'm like, it was Betsy's idea. It was.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Put credit worse. Yeah. I'm about to steal it. But then we went to Jumbo's clown room. We've been going every year for Wilma's birthday. Yeah. Is Wilma coming too? Wilma cannot enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:44:06 She's not allowed. She's not allowed. We'll be, like, wearing hats and stuff, and they're like, whose birthday is it? And then it'll be like, Wilma, and show a picture. And they're like, happy birthday, Wilma. It's the best vibes. It's like, we always have fun when we're there.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Everyone's always really nice and friendly. But, like, saying you're there to celebrate a dog's birthday, we have learned all about their cats. Yes. They all have cats. Not a single dog owner on the pole. But it's the best time. It's so much fun.
Starting point is 00:44:35 But, yeah, Wilma looks at her place. decide to get a dog was it a mutual thing or did you just get a dog i definitely asked yes um i had like i was living somewhere else not that far for a year when like covid all happened and then i broke up with the person i was living with and i had been trying to get a dog the whole time and it just sort of didn't happen when the pandemic hit i was like now's the time and the shelters were cleaned out yeah um and which is lovely but they did also tell me like you could get a dog in a few months because oh so sad people bring a lot of the dogs will end up back and I that then the like breakup happened and I knew that I would be able to get back
Starting point is 00:45:21 into the place where I was living where I was so happy and like didn't necessarily want to leave like it just felt like I should because you're supposed to do that in a relationship I don't know. And so I was like, is it okay? I'm really, really ready to get a dog. And you were cool with it. And I was, the shelters were literally empty and I didn't want to wait. I was too scared that we would go back to work and like this window of getting to like raise a dog. Because you wanted a puppy. I was pretty committed to wanting to raise a puppy. And then I found this lady who like seemed you know the it is a breeder there's no qualm i i can't lie but she only like it's a bummer it's a bummer but um yeah i could have you could have found her on the street are you sure
Starting point is 00:46:10 i found a purebed golden retriever just under a leaf and she uh was in phoenix oh yeah you drove to phoenix i had i had moved back in i think in like early like december first or something like that. I had to go live in a sublet while Mono like arranged his next move and that was a really dark time. And then I moved and we immediately were having so much fun.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Yes. And I knew that I was going to go get the dog on December 30th. Yeah. And just drove back home with like she was the size of a shoe. She was so tiny. She was so tiny and our lives were changed forever. Forever. Truly forever.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Like the days before we were Betsy had a Christmas tree. I had drawn, like, cartoon eyes and a mouth on it. And we were getting drunk during the day and riding on her long board, skateboard in the living room on our stomachs. Yeah, we were, like, making, like, gingerbread house. We were having. So nice. And Gilly was, like, a puppy is going to be in our life.
Starting point is 00:47:15 So we got to kind of party now. Yeah. And, like, the first thing that happened bringing her home was she shit on the rug. And we threw out the rug. And our house is all hardwood floors, but we did have a rug in the living room at the time. And she just goes right on over, takes the biggest shit. I was like, I don't even know puppies could do that big. And so, I was like, we're tossing the rug.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I'm not even trying to clean this. But it was a really hard time. It was like we were all the world was, it was like the second kind of wave of a lockdown, like a true. We were not allowed to do. stuff and so the and puppies are really hard yeah like people should not get puppies it was crazy crazy and they like wake you up at night like babies right uh i had to every half hour go take her outside if if you're trying to potty train them and like do it in a short of time as possible you have to every half hour to show them and like cheer them on yeah yes good potty like it's wild yeah we were
Starting point is 00:48:21 standing outside going like kid potty and she was so cute but it was it was like I was so happy to be back I was like oh god it's like such a our house is such a like haven I still feel so like oh this is so good but that was such a hard time and then bringing a puppy into it was it was rocky and then she got to be like five six months and we then became like completely obsessed with the stock, but not before them. It was, she was biting, like we were covered in bites, in scratches,
Starting point is 00:49:00 and constantly bleeding. Constantly, like, holes. I still have, like, my favorite sweat suits that I was wearing every fucking day have, like, holes all over the legs because she would run and do a flying leap and latch on with her teeth. And just, like, hold on to your calf,
Starting point is 00:49:15 and you're like, what? And there's still some pieces of furniture where they're just, like, Little bite mom. Because she would just kind of like every single thing just be like, I got to spray for it. But like the spray was like, it's like pepper spraying your own home. So you would just be in the house and be like, oh, but that'll stop her. It all like all the like shitty raising a puppy stuff paid off.
Starting point is 00:49:41 But it's so delayed. She's such a good dog. Yeah. It's a lot of work. Yeah. And you killed it, Gilly. That's so nice. You killed it.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I also comically got a job two months in. I didn't think Zoom, we didn't know Zoom was an option that our whole lives would turn to that. So I was fully like, and Betsy would like take her for a couple hours, which was so nice. And I would hide in my room and like cry in the shower. Just sort of like, this is so hard. Someone, Taylor Orsey, I don't know if you know them, but very nice person was like, I wanted to throw my puppy out the window. And that gave me like the strength. that I need.
Starting point is 00:50:20 I'm making it sound like something awful happened to us. And it was just that I got a puppy. It's hard. It's like a baby. It feels like it's a baby. Yeah. And it is a little baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:31 But now I'll like be in my room and just hear like, I love you so much. Same. I'll just hear like, oh. We don't know. It makes me so happy. Like I could cry. It makes me so happy that like you are friends with her. We're good friends.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Betsy's her best friends. Oh, my goodness. We're good friends. I'm definitely the alpha. Yeah, she listens to Gilly. She does not listen to me. I send Gilly videos of like, well, me and Wilma will be on the opposite sides of the couch and she'll be like just kind of either laying down or even just sitting and I'll
Starting point is 00:51:06 just be like, Wilma, filming, Wilma, like 10 minutes long. Wilma won't look at me. Sometimes we'll even turn her head like farther away like Wilma. And then I'll send them to Gilly and just be like. It's really funny. She does love you, but yeah, I don't think she respects you. Now I'm that. That's very funny.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I think, like, they're, like, equals in Wilma's eyes. It's really cute. My sister. Yeah, that's my big sister. I don't like when Clyde looks at me when I eat because it makes me feel like I starve him. But I don't. I feed him. They'll just, like, stare at me.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Well, food's really nice. So I go, Clyde. Don't look at me, and he'll always just go. Oh, God. And then, like, look back and I go, no. Stop it, Clyde. A little drama boy with his tongue out now. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Very good. With his tongue permanently out. He doesn't have teeth. He's got very few teeth. Are you a dog part? Like, how do you feel? She's got a cat. I have a cat.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Oh, beautiful. Who is, I guess, a kitten still. And crazy. Congratulations. Thanks. Yeah. Little black cat. Oh, cute.
Starting point is 00:52:18 And, um, spooky. Spooky. Yeah. It's like, you know, I guess he's growing up. So sometimes he's crazy and he'll scratch me to high hell. And sometimes he's the sweetest little boy ever and he'll like curl up on your chest and just per like crazy. Oh, that's cute. And so I'm like, okay, well, this is nice.
Starting point is 00:52:39 And then he starts scratching me. And I'm like, okay, well, now you have to get off me. What is your relationship like with Clyde and what is your, what is your cat's name? Tricks. Trick. Yeah. And what is your relationship with Tricks? I haven't met Tricks one time.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Yeah. And Tricks ran away from me. He was skittish. Okay. But it's okay. I'm deeply allergic to cats. Oh, okay. Isn't it weird that it's one, not the other?
Starting point is 00:53:01 No, I'm allergic to dogs. Okay? But not as allergic. Dogs don't bother me, but cats, if I'm in a house that doesn't get swept or dusted often, my eyes will start burning and welling up. That happened to me yesterday, and then I'll start sniffling. And then I'll start getting itchy. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:53:20 And if I pick up a cat and I have a cut, that cut will get really. So, like, it's raised a little bit because a cat brushed against me yesterday. Oh, my God. So, yeah, it's fun. Histamine. Whoa. I've been watching a lot of horror movies because right now I'm like, whoa, what a, like, what a wild, like, way to kill you. I'm like bringing in a bunch of, like, cat stuff and, like, putting it in a wound.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Sorry, I've been watching a lot of. horror movies and reading horror and living it. What is the scariest movie you've ever seen? You like scary movies too, right? No. Oh. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:59 We saw that the scary movie where people were on fire. The monkey! Yes, thank you. Oh, I didn't like the monkey. I can't believe you didn't. I was upset. Gilly's going to like this movie so much. Mono and I loved it.
Starting point is 00:54:13 And we're like, Nicole, Gilly, come on. You're going to love this movie. I've seen it already. A second watch. Like within days, like a second one, within like two days, we're like, let's go see it again. And Gilly like halfway through was like, why did you think I liked this movie? And I was like, I'm sorry. I'm not, I wasn't mad at you.
Starting point is 00:54:33 It was more just sort of like, I hate this movie so much. Betsy loves Halloween. She loves horror. It is a year-round pursuit for you. So, like, midway through September, she was like, can I decorate? And you love it And you got to do it I put out a couple
Starting point is 00:54:51 And then Gillies like Can you wait till October? That's fair enough That's fair enough If I could I would start after my birthday In June I think he's not decorating
Starting point is 00:55:00 I thought about it Next year I'm gonna Right after your birthday I'm gonna say No Get the ghosts out Betsy I don't want to be a Halloween
Starting point is 00:55:08 Grinch Get the haunted dolls Let's just have Fourth quarter is just Halloween and Christmas Why not I genuinely mean this I don't want to stand in the way
Starting point is 00:55:16 of any of your joy Let's do it But I also don't want, no, it's fine. It's fine. But what is the scariest movie you've seen? That's hard. Okay. There's this movie called The Changeling.
Starting point is 00:55:30 From I think 1980 or 1984, I can't remember, starring George C. Scott. That is terrifying. I saw it as a kid way too young. But it's like so good. It's straight up a like haunted house ghost story. And it is so scary. and awesome. I watched it recently
Starting point is 00:55:49 with my dad when I was with him a couple of weeks ago. He was like, do you want to watch the Changeling? I was like, yes. Yes, I do.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Because it's like in the Cedaro family of like, ew, we, like it's so scary but we love it. And there's like this really
Starting point is 00:56:06 spooky scene where there's like an old-timey kids wheelchair that like starts moving on its own. and like hunts a woman down
Starting point is 00:56:20 and it is so it's so good it's so good if y'all ever want to watch it we should watch it i have i will watch it i love scary things you don't like scary things you know spooky uki no i jump at things that are just like normal me too we went to burbank uh mono and some other i'm mark and mary to look at like burbank has like known big decoration houses oh yeah and there was one called clown alley and we were uh there was it was like a ticket booth like a like it was like a circus with scary clowns and a thing had slid open so we had like just missed whatever it does clearly and a woman was standing there filming and we're all standing back waiting for it to happen again
Starting point is 00:57:03 it's not happening and i was like to help this lady mostly i was like oh i maybe it's a sensor we have to get closer and i walk up and get so scared like fully trying to make it do the thing it doesn't like my brain cannot compute but like you're safe you're sitting in an AMC it doesn't matter I'm so but but much like seafood Betsy has like drawn I've enjoyed some horror movies yeah you have yeah when they're old it's really fun yeah like B movies and you you know so many of them and then like if they're they're all the original cool ideas right now so it's like I better get on board right it was too scary
Starting point is 00:57:49 remember troll two never seen troll two we watched it we did we us in mono at your house the name doesn't signify what the movie is where they have goblins and they like leak green Nilbog
Starting point is 00:58:04 troll too as a name is like not what it is because there aren't trolls in the movie Milbog it's oblin backwards no I don't remember this it was so afternoon like kind of recently when was it? I was going to pull up
Starting point is 00:58:19 a picture but I don't have the internet on or anything well it's really bad if I considered one like I vaguely remember this. Bad but fun yes like kind of bad acting like the room where it's like celebrated for how the room is really wild
Starting point is 00:58:35 I don't think I've watched it full front to back but Mono was showing me bits and pieces and I was like well this is what? You would like it if you like Madam Webb we went to a screening of the room that was like Rocky Horror style where people like throw spoons at a certain time and like
Starting point is 00:58:51 spoons. There's something in the, I can't even remember. There's like a lot of spoon art in the movie. Like there'll be like little framed spoon pictures and stuff so anytime you see a spoon you huck like plastic spoons. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:59:09 It's really cute. It was really fun. Like people trying to have fun in the world that we're in today like just We get to do, like, pursue our dumb little interests. And I feel so lucky all the time. It is nice. Yeah. It's really nice.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Because some people are sad. I know. Yeah. I mean, I think we're all all so sad. Yeah. But we're trying to be happy. Yeah, I think the world's in like a collective psychosis slash sadness. Anywho. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:59:38 That was good. What's a core memory that comes to mind for you? Like, what's your favorite time you've? had together. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah, so many. That first Christmas back in the house is a big one.
Starting point is 00:59:53 That was real, where it was the lockdown and they're like, don't you, don't you even go outside or whatever. We had, we ordered from Fogo to Chow for Christmas, not even for Christmas Eve and Christmas, just for Christmas. And we got trays upon trays of food. It was like catering for a party. It was truly for like 12 people. And we were just like, yeah, dude, it was so fun.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I love that. San Diego was a big one. That was the very beginning of your seafood journey. A year long, this was years ago. I got hired to do, remember how UCB would send, like, gig opportunities? I would respond to those. And I found out a lot of our friends were not doing that. But I fully was and did a lot of them.
Starting point is 01:00:36 And I was playing a financial fortune teller at a finance convention. I've done it multiple times in multiple cities. Since then, for Ally Bank, and it was in, like, a big convention in San Diego, and I had a hotel room, and then they gave me drink tickets to the, like, big party at the end. And so Betsy, just for fun, drove down. He was like, come down, I have a hotel room. It was so fun. And I was like, okay, and we had so much fun. We rode bikes, like city bikes around San Diego, which, like, I've never done before, so that was exciting.
Starting point is 01:01:12 And then we went to this party where people were like, hey, you like, the financial fortune dollar. Like, thanks for telling me I was going to get rich in 10 years. Like, really excited. I'm going to make some investments. And I was like, no. Because it's you. No, no, no. It's you.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I'll count on you. Yeah. And people coming up to me being like, so what do you do in finance? I'm like, social media. Like, ooh. Because we also were like, let's try to, like, fit in. Yeah, yeah. Let's like be finance.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Really, but we went to the Whaley House, which is considered one of like the most haunted houses, legit, actually a haunted, not a like jump out and scare you house in the United States in San Diego. And we went to that and we like took a bunch of shots before going in it. We had a blast. It was so much. And I remember at dinner, you got us a seafood baked potato. And it was like a really big deal because that was like the first step. What's the seafood big? potato. I think it was lobster.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Yeah, yeah. Like a baked potato like with lobster. And the like twice baked situation where it's like the stuff has been, the inside has been taken out mashed up and then baked again. Oh, delicious. Yeah. That was really good. That was a really fun hang.
Starting point is 01:02:28 And I feel it was when was it? Was it? No, we'd been living together for a while in the house. Yeah, yeah. But still, that was a long time ago. Yeah, it was a long time ago. It was so fun. Try I think of, we've had so many fun. We get to do a lot of fun stuff.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Oh, hi. We just went to Ohio. We just went to Ohio and had the best time. Have you been? Mm-hmm. It's so cool. You got to go to Ohio. I've been a couple times.
Starting point is 01:02:56 The food was incredible. We like parked the car and never got in and again for like three days. And we stayed at this fun like air stream place. Oh. And we brought Wilma. It was so much fun And we just ate and drank And wandering around
Starting point is 01:03:17 It was so much fun That sounds nice Yeah Just eating and drinking and wandering Yeah I love eating Have you ever been to Slovakia It's three hours away
Starting point is 01:03:27 And it's not called that It's like a Dutch town Solving So my God I was like Travel to Eastern Europe In a wormhole Three hours away
Starting point is 01:03:37 We have been to Bulgaria Together We got to go to Bulgaria. Oh, yeah, because you shot a commercial. Yeah, yeah, that I meet one. It's the funniest thing. It's still going, baby. No.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Betsy plays a little eye bug or an I might. I might, yeah. It's really fun. Partying on an island. Oh, God. But then there's a medicine that kills all my friends. It's pretty devastating. But yeah, it's shot in Bulgaria.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Are there fun puns in the commercial? Like, I might. We're, oh, my God, if they make a second one. I got to hit them up. We need a sequel. We need a sequel. Wait, there aren't any puns. But that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:04:24 No. You're right. Yeah, I don't know. I had to get out a lot of information. Yeah. It is a far. Like, yeah, with ex-pleveritis, like, shit like that. We did it great.
Starting point is 01:04:36 But it was fun, and I got to bring Gilly. That's fun. Which was just a dream. Everyone's like, who are you? And I was like, I'm a friend. Social media? I don't know why I'm here either. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:46 You guys said I could. We just wanted to come to Bulgaria and we had an absolute blast in Bulgaria. What do you do in Bulgaria? What's fun in it? You had a lot of fun food. Yeah, we both, we got like the most round about, like, this is something we get to do at home too, but we like to go to a restaurant and order like it's for catering. And we got recommendations like through a friend, through a friend through like Aubrey Plaza or something.
Starting point is 01:05:11 because she'd shot there. She had just shot a movie there or something and gave us a list and we went through. Under the Linden Tree, we went to that place twice. It was, it's a lot, like, J-O-S-B-B-C-E-R-E-R is what they call. Like, J-O-S-P-E-R is their, like, wood-fired, smoky meats. Every menu had a huge J-Sper barbecue option, too. So they have all this other stuff and then just meat.
Starting point is 01:05:41 delicious meat. I think I thought it would be like hard scrabble unseasoned kind of food which honestly, sometimes it's fun like eating like hard times food like it becomes a cuisine. Right. There's a lot of hard times food.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Like Armenian food has like it's like a beef that's like a salted beef wrapped in ghee and it exists because of like in hard times you would need to like find a way to like preserve the meat better and you could like put it in butter and it would last long lure and it's like and also it's delicious and it's really good I've never had it but we
Starting point is 01:06:18 because Betsy was working but then we extended it and we got a guy from the hotel to take us on a day and we went to see bat caves yeah and like a cool waterfall we were like in the mountains it's gorgeous it was really cool yeah the Rila mountains outside of
Starting point is 01:06:35 Sophia Bulgaria yeah we had a good time it sounds amazing it was really fun Yeah, we get to, like, go places, post up, get drunk, wander around, and then eat really big meals. It's so great. It's really nice. It's nice. It's really fun.
Starting point is 01:06:52 We have to wrap up soon, but I want to ask one last question. Wow, fun killer. Just kidding. I know. I looked at the clock, too. I'm having a great time. But, yeah, we have to end the episode eventually. No, we know.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Talk forever! But we ask all of our friends who come, where do you see you both 20 years from now? Whoa. Yeah. So it's 2045. Holy shit. And there's still a society? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:25 And we're still kicking. I see us midway through building the early retirement community that I would like to build for a bunch of our friends all of us um you're invited thank you um and we've made a bunch of shows at that point um we like just started kind of working together in the last like couple of years like developing something and it's really fun and i and i as a writer would just love to write silly things that then betsy has to go do and everyone would love watching her yeah we've made like Our third show and our retirement community, like we've got like wooden frames in the beautiful location
Starting point is 01:08:15 that we bought land for this endeavor. And we're like going on some other trip. Cool. I was going to say we all like a bunch of friends just run a cul-de-sac. Yeah. Like a whole street somewhere where we all own our own homes. And then just, like, party in the middle of the street because there's no rules.
Starting point is 01:08:39 I would love to have a, like, a retirement community with all friends. There's no rules. In the one in building, we have individual abodes. Don't worry. It's not like a commune. Everyone has private space. But there is, like, a clubhouse of, like,
Starting point is 01:08:53 you can play pool and games. And then I do think there should be a stage. Everyone laughs when I said this, but, like, you think we're not going to want to do improv when we're in our 60s. We're going to want to do improv. We're going to want to do improv. There should be a stage.
Starting point is 01:09:04 I have a character bit I want to work at That's just going to stop Nope let's do improv till we die What are you guys Yeah what's your dream Would you like to join our commune? Yeah I would I would like to live
Starting point is 01:09:23 In a retirement community with people I know Because I feel like A lot of old people are just dying alone in their homes Or they're like withering away because nobody talks to them or they're in a nursing home or nobody likes them or cares about them. So I want to be with friends. Or they're tagging in on a group game on the stage in my community. Why die by yourself when you could get a word and do the pattern game.
Starting point is 01:09:51 That is like. I haven't thought about a pattern game in years. Oh, my God, let's do it right now. Okay, can we get a suggestion of anything at all? Beef. Beef. I heard beef. I vaguely remember how to do this. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Is this like word, word, word? It's like A to C. They're like, glows, remember the Glover. A to C, but we're coming back to the original one. And I find that so hard. What was the suggestion? Beef. Okay, thank you.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Chewy. Dog toy. Vest. Marine. Whale. Oh. Hardy? Bees!
Starting point is 01:10:38 Uh, ooh, oh, uh, I hate you. Okay, okay, okay. And this is what, uh, you can expect at the recovery. That was a commercial for the retirement community. And people were like, whoa, wait, what? You know what? They all need to die alone in the nursing house. They deserve to be there.
Starting point is 01:10:58 I wouldn't ask an audience to watch us do that ever again. I remember my first. Harris Harold and I was like, what is this? Anyway, I mean, yes, we could do a show off of that. In 20 years, I would like to, we've worked together a bunch, I've worked with other friends a bunch,
Starting point is 01:11:14 and then I do want to live near my friends. Yes. I don't like that sometimes friends go far away. Yeah, that's crazy. I, like, we gotta stick together. Yeah. We have to. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I want to grow old with my friends, and we all raise our pets together.
Starting point is 01:11:31 and yeah we create a bunch of stuff together and um and then we get to like travel and garden together and eat cool foods yeah that kind of stuff we can do more of the same because we're kind of doing it and now it's just like more of the same it's nice more of the same i'd be happy do you divas have anything you want to promote no hell yeah you can listen to my podcast a funny feeling and we love trash if you're nasty. Yeah, only if you're nasty. Well, that's it for this episode.
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