Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata - Sasheer Jumps at Things That Are Normal (w/ Betsy Sodaro & Gilli Nissim)
Episode Date: November 12, 2025This week, Nicole and Sasheer are joined by best friends Betsy Sodaro (A Funny Feeling, We Love Trash) and Gilli Nissim (The Other Two, Twisted Metal, AP Bio)! The group gets into the story b...ehind Betsy and Gilli's matching shirts, memories from their trip to Bulgaria where Betsy filmed a commercial playing an eye mite, and the absolute joy of living with a best friend!Watch this full video on YouTube and follow below!Follow Nicole: Twitter, Instagram, TikTokFollow Sasheer: Instagram, TikTokLike the show? Rate Best Friends 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts!Have a friendship question for Nicole and Sasheer to solve? Leave us a voicemail at (323) 238-6554 or write in at nicoleandsasheer@gmail.com.Best Friends is a production of Headgum Studios. Our producer is Allie Kahan. Our executive producer is Anya Kanevskaya. The show is edited, mixed, and engineered by Richelle Chen.This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Best Friends via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hello, this is shea.
We have guests
Does your little paper say that we have guests today?
It does and it says it right on that first page
And I was flipping
Yeah
I said what's going on on this other page
Should we introduce our guests?
Yes, let's do it
I think the entries are just on the first page
It is.
Do you want me to do it?
Get it!
Why don't you leave a paper if you weren't even going to do it?
Can you pronounce your last name for me?
Nisim
Nisim, okay
But whatever comes out, it's fine
Nisim
Okay
We have two of our very fun friends
Gilly Nisim
Nisim
Nisim
I want to say Nisim
I heard something different
Nisim
Nisim
Wait, have I been
mispronouncing your last name
This whole time?
I'm very lucy-goosey on the last name
but non-negotiable
on the first name
Well how would you
How else would you pronounce
Gilly Nisim
But I don't
You saw my face
I couldn't do it
Don't worry about it
Gilly.
People say Nisim, but I like
Nisim.
Nisim.
Nisim.
Nisim.
We have Gilly Nisim.
Who is a writer,
who is a writer, performer
known for her work on
Twisted Metal.
The other two.
Pretty smart.
An AP bio.
With Betsy Siddaro.
A performer, writer, comedian
known for a work on ghosts.
Bob's Burger, Superstore,
Puss and Boots, The Last Wish.
Also co-hosts the podcast,
A Funny Feeling,
And we love trash with Mono Agapion.
Look at our friends!
Good job.
You did.
That was good.
Have you guys seen that Puss and Boots?
No.
It's so good.
It's so good.
It's so cool.
The character that Betsy voices is like, it's so fun seeing it.
What's the character?
I play one of the Serpent Sisters.
One out of two.
And we're kind of just like henchmen kind of.
hench women
and I went in
because they never gave me
the full script or whatever
and they're like you're the serpents
come read for one of the serpent sisters
and I was like okay serpent sisters
so I go in and I'm all like
and like finally they
stopped me they're like you don't have to do that
I was like oh I thought they were like snakes or something
and they're like no don't worry about it
don't worry about it and I still thought
that the characters were going to be like snakes
fair because the lead
is a cat
and then I saw the movie
I was like
they're humans
and like they had me
improvise a ton
and so I was improvising
like snake specifics
and like let's slither
like all this stuff
going off for like
five minutes straight
and they're like
this is so good
this is so good
and then I saw the movie
I was like
they're human
they couldn't just say
like
it's a human
that's really funny
I think they were like, this is funny.
They honestly probably still talk about it.
Yeah.
Remember when we let Betsy think that she was a snake?
Honestly, that's on them.
Yes.
Serpents in the title.
Yeah, Serpent sisters, yeah, cats the lead.
You sound so normal in this, but then it's so unfair because you seem so crazy.
It makes me crazy.
It's so funny.
Were there snakes like around them?
Do they have snake pets?
They had snake tattoos.
Who doesn't?
They're just like a gang.
That's like a little gang that you were like,
we'll do your dirty work.
It's really funny.
It's a fun movie.
I was blown away by how good and fun it was.
It's beautiful.
Antonio Banderas is the Puss and Boots.
You better believe it.
Yeah.
Sexy cat.
That's a sexy cat.
My goodness.
What are they going to do?
Puss and Boots is from Shrek, right?
Yeah.
When are they going to do a don't get a movie?
Oh.
Is there not a straight to do video?
Yeah, that feels like a little.
I don't think we would have watched it if there was.
Right.
We love Shrek.
I'm sure.
I mean, Shrek is great.
Yeah, Shrek's great.
But I think I've only seen Trek 1 and Trek 2.
Three is okay.
Yeah.
We watched three and we're like, I can't believe how good this was, but I don't know if I trust.
Yeah, I think we like, eat pot and then let's watch Shrek 3 and we're like, this is so good.
I'm also in Austin Powers three apologists.
I think that we were expecting it to be exactly.
as good as one and two and it's like it's
the third one it's not going to be
and everyone said at the time how bad Beyonce
was she's pretty good
she's like fine
and that's a tall order to be in a
big comedy she was so young and when you rewatch it
she's fine
she's fine people were like tearing her down for it
I remember at least like the idiots in my
tiny little world
it really the movie holds up
I like
kind of recently and Betsy thought
This thought, right?
That it was like, it sucks.
It's so bad.
And then we re-rash.
I was like, pretty funny.
Yeah.
It was a big mystery.
It's pretty good.
How do you choose the movies that you guys watch together?
Ooh.
Oh, that's a good.
That's good.
Wow.
Kind of, yeah.
Let's just keep admiring the question.
Yeah, really good.
It's too good to even answer.
Yeah.
What's the next one going to be?
How do, kind of if we're just in moods or something.
Yeah, in moods or like, well, because the big reveals that we are roommates.
Yes, yeah.
We would probably watch stuff together even if we weren't, but we have, like, a lot of opportunities.
Yeah.
I think, oh, wow, just sort of in the mood.
Like, the categories are like prestige stuff that neither one of us thought we would like, but we waited a year.
And now we're ready and we like it.
Yes.
Like Squid Game.
We waited so long after it came out.
Yeah.
This is really good.
Did you guys hear?
Yeah.
I would absolutely bring it up.
I was like, did you guys watch this or I guess two years ago?
That's what I do.
It's really good.
Yeah, we just watched the Alien Earth TV show.
That wasn't too late, but we watched it really slow.
And then like 90s rewatches.
That's a big one.
And then drag race is sort of like the baseline.
Yeah, kind of went in down.
Like, pop on some drag race.
Yeah.
What's your favorite season?
This year has not seen it.
sorry to ask and talk about it.
You don't want you to feel unincluded.
Disincluded?
Boxed out.
Put in the corner.
Like a free.
A free!
That's good for you.
You're allowed to not watch stuff that everyone's watching.
It's not like on purpose.
I just haven't got into it.
It was on purpose.
She came to my house and she said, I will not practice.
Yeah, she spit on me.
No, thanks.
Oh man
I don't know what
I don't know if I have
I really love season four
with Latrice Royale
and Sharon Needles
um
Biffy O'Hare
because it felt like it was kind of
the
the show was really getting in the
groove of what it's become
but still sloppy in the sense of
like social media wasn't as huge
so the queens didn't give a shit
and we're like mean to each other
but also really talent.
Yeah, I really love season four.
Yeah.
I definitely like
Bob, like the,
with my favorite queens who win.
So like Bianca's season, Bob's season.
Yeah.
And then like Alaska's season
and that all-star season is pretty.
It's so fucked up.
What happened?
Like the like Ralaska Talk stuff is very juicy.
Juicy.
And embarrassing in a good way.
That is my favorite challenge.
It's the
Can I get it? Amen?
I think it's the funniest challenge
in the history of the show.
So it's like, we are the world
but with drag queens
and they have to sing
and Roxie Andrews has a line
where she goes,
my sequins gown
because she didn't know
that a Sequin was one.
She thought it was called a Seekwins.
But my favorite season is season seven.
Yes.
Everyone thinks it's the worst one.
But every challenge
is an acting challenge
and nobody there is an actor.
Give me some people in that season.
That is Ginger Minge, Violet Chotchky.
Yes.
Jasmine Masters.
Katia.
Yes.
Oh, yeah, that's a great one.
Kennedy.
Yeah, sometimes it's like, how did you decide?
Like, did you see this crop?
And you just said, like, let's just throw a bunch of acting challenges at them.
I think they come up with all the challenges beforehand and then do not adapt it to who they actually cast.
Fun me.
And they go, we're just doing it.
Great.
Um, what do you watch?
Thanks for including me.
Do you guys watch stuff together as non-rumate friends?
We've watched you together.
I love that.
Okay.
Because, Gary.
I was like, when did we watch New?
I was like, when did we watch Gilly?
All the time.
Through the window.
We watched, yeah, we started you here and then went to Italy.
Spent like a day in Italy in bed watching you.
Now, that's a good vacation.
It was good.
Lovely.
Yeah.
Very romantic.
That's really nice.
Oh, we also watched 13 reasons why.
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
I like that one.
You really just gasped the whole way through.
Well, that show was funny because season two was terrible.
Awful.
And then they did season three.
And then you didn't have to watch season two to understand season three.
They did like a recap with the lines in like the first 10 minutes.
So you had no questions.
And I was like, oh, that's nice.
Thank you for that.
Yeah.
That's so funny.
We really liked cruel summer.
This is a funny thing about, like, being late 30s is like, I love a teen stuff.
I do, too.
But now I'm like, that boy is hot.
Is that bad?
I feel comfortable.
They're old.
They're old.
They're old.
They're old.
If they're in their 30s, let them be in their early 30s.
I have no qualms about that.
Let every actor playing high school be in their 30s.
And if they're in college, they can be 40.
Yeah.
Because I watch the karate kids.
Those weren't kids.
Those bullies were so old.
Beating the Ralph Machu-Bichib-Jib-J-B-J-B-J-B-J-Has-Name.
You nailed it.
Machiato?
What is it?
Machiato?
I think I said it.
Machio.
Machio.
It's a great name.
It's such a great name.
It is a good name.
I watched the Casper with Christina Ricci.
Oh, yeah.
Yes, Devin Chaventzawa.
And when he pops up, I was like,
I'm such a little cutie and I'm like wait
I think he's like 10 in this movie
Yeah that's a child
I think it's okay to go
That's a little cutie because you saw that as a kid
Yeah my kid self
And you've got a crush on it
I have justified it to myself
In the same way
I have also decided that that is true
Yeah
It's my inner child speaking
Not my adult self
Yeah yeah
He's in a movie called Phenetic
Has anyone seen it?
Have you seen it?
With John Javolda
Yeah directed by frienders
Did we watch it
Together, maybe?
Did we?
With mono?
Maybe.
Did we want?
Directed by Fred Durst
and where Devin Sawas character is always listening to Limp Biscuit, right?
Like, I feel every time his car pulls up, it's like, all about the dooky, did it?
It's just like, this is so silly.
Yes, and John Travolta makes every choice you would never expect.
Huge.
Just huge swings.
This is wild.
It's insane wig.
Wild swings.
The wig is just like that on his head.
That's fine.
He rides a bike a lot.
A bicycle?
Yeah.
It's a very interesting movie.
It's weird.
Is it like someone's obsessed with somebody else?
Yes, John Travolta is obsessed with Devin Sawa.
Oh.
Yeah.
Someone's standing him.
What?
I said someone's standing him because Devin Sallow was the stand for M&M.
That was a deep glared.
Deep, deep, deep.
That was good.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, thank you so much.
Great.
I have a query about friendship.
Yay.
Okay.
When did you decide to be best friends?
That question is not on here.
And I love that.
Wow.
You still refer to it.
Decide.
Decide.
I'm not even sure exactly how we met.
Do you know?
No.
It's very clearly through the UCB stuff.
Yeah.
And I think we were like part of a group, right?
Like a larger friend group.
Yes.
And you were never on teams together?
No.
I don't think we even took a class together.
Betsy might have already been on Harold Knight when I was a student at Skewer.
And then I think of it this way a lot.
And I literally talked about this yesterday.
I'm like, it feels like when we all started doing comedy, we met like a hundred people.
And I was like, all of you are cool and mentally well.
And we're going to be friends forever.
And I'm so excited about holding on to this, like, group of hundred people.
And then, like, five years in, it's.
It's like, oh, some of you people turned out to be mentally unwell, mean, just sort of liars or you, like, find a new best friend every year and it's always the other person's fault.
And after a while I'm starting to think maybe it's you, like, so the like group, like squid game style like does kind of whittle down.
And we still have this big lovely friend group of which I think we're all part of.
Of course we are.
yeah like I think it was just maybe maybe that I got to move into the house with Betsy and Mono and we discovered already you guys must have agreed that I could join such an intimate thing of like living together and then it was like oh me and Betsy both we like the things we like and we like to do them and we don't we'll do the like the vegetable of life of like the things we like have to do
and we like have it together
we're not like total lunatics
but then like when we have the opportunity to have fun
we have as much fun as we can
so it was like I think it was a slow
thing
because I feel once you
when you got on Winslow
a team at UCB
a team at UCB with Mono
and Mary who I was living with at the time
it was that thing where it's just like
oh yeah we now all party
together nonstop and hang out
nonstop and so
that kind of did it and then yeah and then mary moved out and gilly moved it i slid right in
and it was immediately like this is really fun yeah and chill yeah hell yeah and we have now lived
together for a long time yeah because how long was it before but there's been great yeah there was a
year break i'm not totally i'm bad with that stuff but i too like eight seven eight years and then a year
break and then now I've been back for five years or something we're coming on. Yeah. Yeah. So
over 10 years, I think. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a choice we get to continue to make and it's
like, it's so fun. It's really nice. I love you so much. I love you, dude. I love that. It's so nice.
Yeah, but it wasn't like, oh, we met on this day and I, yeah, it was definitely like a long,
a nice long slide into best friendship for sure. And Mono, the person that we're
we're talking about is we're all still like I think we're sort of like we're a duo but we're
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What's something that you like about each other?
as roommates.
Like maybe you have experience
with other roommates
that you've had.
Ooh.
Whoa.
I've only been friends
in L.A.
with other friends.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Ooh.
There's a lot.
One thing to start is that
Gilly always will get
fun, weird snacks
and we'll always be like,
you got to try this thing.
And it's just like, okay,
what is it?
And like, it'll be something
last night it was like
these fun,
peas that were covered in what?
Like masala peas?
Masala peas and they were really good.
They were really good.
It was in the like ethnic aisle at Albertsons and it couldn't have been a more narrow
section of the grocery store because it was like, I love groceries just in general.
And so it was like the Indian stuff, the Greek stuff and the Mexican stuff was all in an aisle like as wide as I am.
Like, you know, wider.
And it was, they're crunchy peas.
so it's definitely a snack food and they have just the best evening sounds good they're really good
that's so nice thank you i'm glad you like it what did you have you had cucumber cucumber
cucumber melons yeah Nicole came over for cucumber melons and gillie made she made me a salad
it was so nice it was so fun that you came we got to like hang out i think you came for like
a clean two hours no more and less yeah she like ate a salad and then we all like hung out
We played that weird game.
We played that weird game.
And then it was just kind of like, okay.
And I was like, got to go.
It was delightful.
It was like a little drive-by of friendship.
That was really nice.
Yeah.
And I took some home.
They were.
They're awesome.
They're little cucumbers, but they're also watermelons or something.
They look exactly like a watermelon the size of a cherry tomato that they're like
shrunken down with the pattern of like green and dark green.
And then the flavor is like a lemony melon, I think is only in the visual.
Like, yeah, if it was cucka lemon, I think it would be more accurate.
Right.
It was nice.
But getting to say cucka?
Cucca melon.
Have you seen, I just saw this yesterday, a Buddha's hand?
No.
It's like this, it's a citrus, but it's like little fingers coming out of like a little ball and it looks strange.
It gave me a chill when I saw it.
I was like, excuse me?
It looks like a little like witch is putting.
a spell on you. It's like, like, food and vegetables are wacky. Wacky. The farmer's market
where every time we go, I go pretty regularly and Betsy will come a lot and it's just
sort of like, I've never seen that in my life. Yeah, like, what the hell is that? Like, it's so
it's like, how did we figure out to eat this stuff? Yeah. I feel if I was a cave person,
I'd be like, that's scary. Yeah, mostly poisonous. We got to smash it with a rock.
Like, that's too freaky. That, like, that sounds so freaky. We're all so hungry that
night, but we're like, we're glad we got rid of that
free. That was the right call.
That was the right call. We have a lemon tree
in the backyard that sometimes the lemons that grow are like,
ugly. They're weird. They're weird.
I would like to find a Buddha's hand.
You got it. I'll report back. I want to find a custard
apple. Yes, I've had.
Are they good? Also known as a sita fall.
They are good. And
Cheramoya, like they're native to L.A,
but then they're also in India.
Cheramoya, like the elementary
school by UCB. They like grow somewhere.
They're really good
They're really aggressively sweet
But it's kind of this like
You know how I think of avocados
As like you're crazy
It's like creamy
Yes it is crazy
And kind of like not smoky per se
But it's like a really sexy flavor
It's sunny silky like
It's fucking
It's fucking fantastic
A Cheramoia is the sweet version of that
Where it's like
People say it's like nature's ice cream
I don't think that's
You shouldn't tell someone going in that this is going to taste like ice cream.
Don't ever do that.
Yeah, that's a bad idea.
But it has sort of a like interesting element that is more than just sort of like the citrusy sweetness of a fruit.
And where did you get it from?
The farmer's market.
I'll get you one.
I don't know when they're in season.
I bought seeds for them and I planted them.
And I also planted Japanese persimmons that I've been stealing from my neighbor.
Yes.
Amazing.
Yeah.
Fun.
Because I couldn't figure out where the seeds were.
So I just put the whole thing in dirt.
But that works sometimes.
That works.
Yeah, it can work, I think.
I don't know.
Boy, I hope.
But my, one of my favorite things, because there really are a lot, is that Betsy is really good at, like, any time of the year, we could be hanging out.
Like, we could do it low key where it's just her and I watching TV, but also friends can come over and we can watch a movie.
And I am, like, an active person, but I think I'm doing more informal hangs thanks to living with Betsy.
I'm just like, you'll be like, is it cool if these two friends come over?
and we'll all watch a movie, and it's like, yeah, we can do that.
Like, we go out on weeknights and stuff, but it's like, it can also be just as fun that we're, like, drinking beers watching a movie at home.
Like, you're really good at organizing that, and I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I do like trying weird beers.
Yeah.
What's the weirdest beer you've tried?
Have you had Donna's pickle beer?
Yes, and I loved it.
Really?
I thought it was so good.
I'm a big picklehead.
Oh.
We love pickles.
You got to get to Jimmy John's.
I know.
We got to do the pickle sandwiches.
Oh, I think it's awesome.
Yeah.
It seems wet.
Like, it seems hard to eat.
Like, everything is going to shoot out.
Yeah, did they put, like, a bunch of sinks all around Jimmy John so everyone at their table can eat in a trough?
I don't want to eat that unless I have a drain nearby.
I think I was trying to think of some of the Bud Light came out with these, I think,
seltzers a couple of falls ago where it was like pumpkin spice.
Oh, no.
Some more flavored.
No.
Oh, God.
And like two other things.
And I remember having friends over.
I think you were not home.
But we watched a spooky and we're like, let's have like a tasting of this.
And they were so gross.
I'm already not a big seltzer head.
But then to add like some more flavoring and pumpkin.
Spice. That was pretty nearly. As a beer
those had a chance.
Potentially, yeah. A pumpkin spice beer sounds like it
could. We've had a, we
every fall we'll get a bunch
of pumpkin beers. Oh, that's good.
Yeah. Oh, yummy. I wish I liked
beer. Everyone looks like they're having
such a
kicking back a beer.
Looking so full and
uncomfortable.
I do like beer. And I think I
need to like remember to drink more beers because I
love martini.
Gilly's got me into martinis.
Gilly and Tony, it's been a big, like, I love a martini.
I'm going to make, I made an artichoke last night, and did, I feel like I've actually
said this in this room before, but on another podcast, artichoke liquid is a natural
diuretic.
Like, if you boil an artichoke, the, like, water that's left over is, like, brilliant
blue-green, and it is tasty because it tastes like lightly vegetal and salty.
and it, you just are like,
like, you are like, scatting.
You are scatting.
And as long as I am near a toilet,
occasionally I like to drink it,
but I was like, I bet you I could make a martini out of this.
Whoa.
And I looked it up and you can and I'm going to make us martinis.
Maybe tomorrow.
And then you'll be.
We got to clear it out.
I think just a little bit would be okay because I am planning on going to like a fun
lesbian thing and I'm going to be looking for love.
so now that I say it
I don't think you should drink in my mom
I mean I will say the place that has it
they have like kind of individual bathrooms
you know where it's like
every place I go I'm like
how is the toilet situation
okay I could diary in there
just the like
relaxing feeling of like
I'm good I'll be fine if I have to
I'll shit anywhere
Hey man I have no qualms about it
people are like I can't shoot in public
I can't shoot on vacation
Get real.
Grow up.
I'll shit any old place.
I can't stop shitting in public.
Yeah.
It's so easy.
Once you just have, like, once you hit that point of where it's like, well, I have to.
No matter what, then you're the game on and just be like, I can poop anywhere.
Anywhere.
Have you pooped in the ocean?
That I haven't done.
I know you have.
Why?
Yes, I have.
Interesting.
Oh, my God.
I totally forgot.
And, like, yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you for reminding me.
Yeah.
Do you be shitting in public?
I do you be shit in public, yeah, yeah.
When needed, yeah.
You don't save it up to the day.
No, I never think I'm going out.
I'm going out.
But also I've never been like, I have to leave this establishment because I need to go shit at home.
I'm like, I can sit here and then stay here.
I did that one time at a UCB New Year's Eve party.
I was like, I have to run home and shit.
And I pooped my pants.
in our alley
I was running, running
and we have
like our living room windows
are exposed
and I look in
and I see the toilet
and I just didn't go
I think I texted
only Tony
I was like
I poop my pants
I'm going to bed
and I wasn't even
like drunk or anything
it was just kind of like
too much
okay I got to like
just take a shower
and go to bed
it was like
my favorite pair of pants
that I just threw away
I was just like
you know what
self out my night's done well that's the wrap on me and then I was like you know what I can I
could probably poop at UCB and be fine like yeah especially well we don't live all that far
but when it's an emergency you were you tempted it really pushed it one time leaving our house
we we usually walk to UCB because it is a eight minute walk I've timed it and um uh
mono and I are on the same team I don't think he lived with us anymore but he was just over
so we could go together.
And as we were walking down our driveway, I wanted to make Mono laugh.
So I went, hey, and I stopped in place and, like, really, like, ripped what I thought was a fart.
And we were, like, kind of cutting it close on time.
And we didn't have enough people.
So I was like, I shit myself.
I pushed too hard.
I had to run in.
And there wasn't time.
So I really just did an underwear switch and then did go and perform.
And it was good.
I like said goodbye to them
and then I just hear right
outside like a bunch of laughing
and I see Gilly come sprinting back
and be like I shit my pants
and just then
come and leave and I was like
whoa
I did like a Fiona
have you seen Shrek the musical
it's really good you should
I did a quick change is my point
I did a Broadway quick change
of like you wouldn't believe
how quickly she was
Did you go out after
or did you go home and watch that?
I think I felt great.
I did get in the shower.
Oh, oh, sorry, I should say.
I chucked the underwear, put it under water while I have like a bath shower.
So I was able to like get just my ass under the water, wipe it up.
Underwear was going to be dealt with later.
But it did get a nice like rinse.
And then I put on new underwear, same pants and was out the door again.
Same pants.
That's the outfit I decided on.
Nothing will stop me today.
I have to come up with two outfits in one night.
No.
I don't think.
That is very efficient.
Yeah.
I mean, I hate to be late.
I'm actually remembering I did actually live an event because I had to shit.
And I, because beforehand, I had just bought dried apricots.
Because I was like, yes.
I'll be an apricot girl, I guess.
And didn't know that that's like what a lot of people use two shit.
And so I was like popping them
I was just like snacking on them before I left
And I was like do too too, had a great time
And then at some point I was like I'm gonna die
I felt like I was going to explode
And like I had this like tight-waisted skirt
And I was like ha and I was getting a headache
And then I went to the bathroom and I was like dizzy
I was like I think I have to leave completely
And then I remember being in the car
And I had my head out the window trying to get air
And then like was crawling to the bathroom
by the time I got home
and then it was just like
on the toilet
the rest of the night
I'm so sorry
Did you look it up then
and we're like oh
well then my boyfriend
at the time was like
oh this is my granddad
eats to me
the prunes cousin
oh is it
I mean you basically ate
a bunch of prunes
it's fibrous
and I had no idea
oh boy
that that is not you so much
I mean the yes
you had to leave to shit
but like you were sick
I was ill
I was so trapped to hurt your head
it took my
whole body.
I'm sweating.
Whoa.
That's like, I tell you, that's the, you know, trying to be healthy.
It'll get you.
It will get you.
It's not nice.
That's a fruit that we should smash.
Yeah.
Get rid of that.
Yeah.
Let's get it.
I don't like prunes.
They're weirdly too sweet for me.
Right.
They are too sweet for being the like, is a prune a date's friend?
A dates friend?
It's a plum.
Oh, it's a plum?
Yeah.
And I feel like plums and apricots are a little closer, but I don't know.
Like almonds and peaches are related.
What?
Get out.
You get out.
How dare you.
You're a witch.
You're a witch.
It's crazy out there.
Have you had a blue banana?
What?
I would love to.
No.
Where are they?
A blue banana.
I don't know.
It's also called like the ice cream of bananas.
Stop doing it.
Have you had a gross Michelle banana?
Gross Michelle.
It's a seeded banana.
And apparently it's the strain of bananas we used to eat before a bacteria.
It's called a gross Michelle?
Yeah.
A strain of bacteria came and cleaned them all out.
I know a little about the.
Yeah, cavendish.
Okay.
Like dead.
Sean Diston was telling me all about bananas the other day.
That's funny.
Blue gross Michelle, what did Michelle do?
She was nasty.
Gross.
Yeah, how did that name come about?
That's a mean name.
I don't know.
I also might be saying it wrong because I called it a cadaver, but I think it's Cavendish.
I think you're right.
According to distend that like the, you know, runts, the banana flavor.
That's, yes, it's based on the gross Michelle banana.
Michelle, come on.
Funny.
And I love a run.
What if you finally got, like, invented something, you finally get to put your name on it and they're like, yeah.
Grossman.
They're like, which Michelle made this?
The Rose-M-Same.
Oh, dang it, you guys.
I said I wanted my name in it, but not like this.
One thing, and this is leading,
Gilly has gotten me to really try stuff I never thought I would.
A ton.
Whether it's an experience or a lot of food.
And so I've been on a seafood journey that Gilly has helped me.
And we went to Kinn Khan, which is this awesome restaurant right by Courage Bagels.
And a man, we were lapped, there was a man there who, how did he, he described, what was it,
uni, which was, it's one of my favorites, which it's sea urchin.
And at that point, it was still sort of like a hair too far.
Yes, where I'm like, I don't know if I can, I will eat that.
And he called it savory sea bun.
Yes. And Gilly immediately was like, don't call it that. Like to this dude who was just like, he was from a like caviar farm or something. Yeah, his like family owns like salmon row farm. Don't call it that. It's a, it's like the most fantastic restaurant. I've been a bunch and it's great. Every time the menu's different and the chef is cool and we are like kind of friendly with her now and I've gotten drunk with her a bunch. And it's a little social. So it's not so weird that he was chatting with us. Yeah, we were all at the bar and it was kind of.
just like whoa yeah the chef will sort of purposely be like like making connections of like oh you
you said this that person thinks that like she wants it to be so this man was not like I wasn't
rejecting him speaking to us completely how dare you in this very like delicate journey of like I want
this to be positive all the way through and he called it sea butter which is like that's a dairy
product I didn't know if that was going to gross you out and I just was like no it's not it's not
see butter it's not see better like no get out of here
man and then I had it and I was like
it's kind of like sea butter it's
totally a fair description I just
was like worried that he was like
you were sleeping beauty
about to prick the spindle and I'm the witch
like yes
and then he was coming up being like don't do that
I was worried you were going to like
see the run away right
right um yeah that's fun
I do have um
I like to be
I hope people think of me as like a generous person or like fun or whatever,
but it is a compulsion that comes deep within that if I have said like,
will you have a bite and someone says no thanks?
I act like it's fine,
but I'm so upset for a long time.
I feel there have been a couple of times that I've had to be like,
but don't, it's nothing personal.
I just do not want this or right now.
I just don't want it right now.
I'm trying to get better at like,
roll away you'll offer and you just move it on because for me I'm like you're going to like it
it's so good I don't want you to miss out on this experience like yeah so I I hope I've gotten
better as well of like be cool if they say no like it's not a real offer if you're forcing it
it's not a nice thing but like so funny I do I do know certain things like you don't like
getting fruit when we're at the farmer's market it's too early
And I worry it'll make me poop.
You know, because I'll have an empty stomach and I'm like,
I can't pop peaches and stuff because that will make me poop.
It's fibrous.
It's very fibrous.
Betsy, do you do sushi?
I've started to, yeah.
I'm on a sushi journey because I didn't like the texture.
Okay.
But then once I got past the texture, I was like, oh, I like the taste.
Yes.
And also it's very foreign looking to me because I didn't grow up with it.
Right.
But I think it's called salmon roe.
Is it the orange globe?
Yeah.
Yes.
I call them pop-ums because they pop in your mouth.
They make me laugh really hard, yes.
They are nature's gushers.
For some reason, that word.
The nature's ice cream, fuck off.
Fuck off.
Nature's gushers.
And you also like soup now?
Man, soup's great.
Yay!
I had no idea.
Growing!
I discovered the love of soup with you.
That's true.
We were on an air plane.
Well, we were flying.
to Africa.
And I think you were sleeping.
Or maybe you were eating.
I don't remember.
When they gave me this curried soup.
And I was like sipping on it and I was like, oh, well, well, what?
And then when we got to Africa, I kept having soup.
I love that.
Fun.
No, I like ramen?
That's soup with chumcums.
That's like Gilly's number one.
Yeah, I love ramen.
Where do you get ramen from?
There's a lot of places.
I had like a document for a while where I was trying to like try all of, not only all
of L.A.'s.
but everything on the menu.
That's daunting.
And yeah, I stopped because they keep opening new places.
It was like a treadmill.
I couldn't keep up, never ending.
But I really like Silver Lake Ramen, just straight up, Tatsu Ramen.
My mouth is flooded.
I would love to eat ramen.
My favorite place that I've gone to multiple times is Toto Ramen in New York.
So every time I go, they do.
say tan so I think it's like a chicken based broth but it's still so like heavy meaty creamy
and then they put pork choshu which is the like sliced and ground pork it is so good I go
by myself I keep my glasses on because they protect my eyeballs I put so many napkins
from the steam and also the the soup splash yeah eating ramen
alone is like my dream is to go to that place
in Japan where you can do it alone. I did go to a place in New York
where you're in a little stall and
they just open up a flap, put your bowl
in and I think
I must have like a goblin
because I like to raise the noodle high
and stop it in, which at a restaurant I know
I shouldn't do.
Here's the thing. I think you should.
I think more people should have fun eating.
I'm a plate liquor and I stop.
Yeah, Galey likes plates.
I think the first time I went like
Like where I was aware
Betsy was going to see it
I was like I'm going to lick my plate
You're like that's okay
Where were you that you were in our
At home?
Because I think maybe I like wasn't doing it
In front of you and you know
That's a cartoon trait
It's a very funny
My mom's a plate liquor too
We're plate liquors
They come from the family of plate liquor
My mother's mother was a plate
Yes, we are proud.
Plate liquors.
After Elis Island, we're the plate liqueurs.
We are.
It's so funny.
It's easier to wash your dish.
That's not why I do it.
That's not why I do it.
I like what I'm eating.
That's not why I do it.
I like what I'm eating.
But now I don't even, I don't have to like preface it anymore.
I feel if there's like if we're ever talking like, well,
Gilly's eating or something and then it just goes silent.
I'm like, she's like it.
She'll be done in a second
She'll answer the question
She just needs a moment
Wilma does it too
Wilma is a dog
You know what she does
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Oh, yes, you got to talk about these shirts that you have.
This was Betsy.
I wanted us to make shirts for Wilma, the Golden Retriever, her birthday two years ago.
And I made one that said, my girl is young, dumb, and loves balls in her mouth.
And then Betsy made that one that says,
this birthday girl has six tidings
that's a picture of Wilma with three bikini tops on
which we did try to make which she was a puppy
we had done in real life I like cut up a shirt
and it was really funny
it was so cute. She looked like a little whore
she looked like what like gypsy or like
it was so funny
and I got jealous because Betsy's was better
and I was like I hate
I like would I will do
anything to avoid copy
or, like, being seen, like, or anyone even thinking that I've copied.
But I was like, can I copy yours?
I like, or is better?
And you were like, no problem.
You're like, I made this one.
But every time someone's like, that's cute, I'm like, it was Betsy's idea.
It was.
Put credit worse.
Yeah.
I'm about to steal it.
But then we went to Jumbo's clown room.
We've been going every year for Wilma's birthday.
Yeah.
Is Wilma coming too?
Wilma cannot enjoy it.
She's not allowed.
She's not allowed.
We'll be, like, wearing hats and stuff, and they're like,
whose birthday is it?
And then it'll be like, Wilma, and show a picture.
And they're like, happy birthday, Wilma.
It's the best vibes.
It's like, we always have fun when we're there.
Everyone's always really nice and friendly.
But, like, saying you're there to celebrate a dog's birthday,
we have learned all about their cats.
Yes.
They all have cats.
Not a single dog owner on the pole.
But it's the best time.
It's so much fun.
But, yeah, Wilma looks at her place.
decide to get a dog was it a mutual thing or did you just get a dog i definitely asked yes um i had
like i was living somewhere else not that far for a year when like covid all happened and then i
broke up with the person i was living with and i had been trying to get a dog the whole time and it
just sort of didn't happen when the pandemic hit i was like now's the time and the shelters were
cleaned out yeah um and which is lovely but they did also tell me like you could
get a dog in a few months because oh so sad people bring a lot of the dogs will end up
back and I that then the like breakup happened and I knew that I would be able to get back
into the place where I was living where I was so happy and like didn't necessarily want to
leave like it just felt like I should because you're supposed to do that in a relationship I don't
know. And so I was like, is it okay? I'm really, really ready to get a dog. And you were cool
with it. And I was, the shelters were literally empty and I didn't want to wait. I was too scared
that we would go back to work and like this window of getting to like raise a dog. Because you
wanted a puppy. I was pretty committed to wanting to raise a puppy. And then I found this lady who
like seemed you know the it is a breeder there's no qualm i i can't lie but she only like it's a bummer
it's a bummer but um yeah i could have you could have found her on the street are you sure
i found a purebed golden retriever just under a leaf and she uh was in phoenix oh yeah you drove
to phoenix i had i had moved back in i think in like early like december first or something
like that. I had to go live in a sublet
while Mono like arranged his
next move and
that was a really dark time.
And then I moved and we immediately
were having so much fun.
Yes. And I knew that I was going to
go get the dog on December 30th.
Yeah. And just
drove back home with like
she was the size of a shoe.
She was so tiny. She was so tiny
and our lives were changed forever.
Forever. Truly forever.
Like the days before we were
Betsy had a Christmas tree.
I had drawn, like, cartoon eyes and a mouth on it.
And we were getting drunk during the day and riding on her long board, skateboard in the living room on our stomachs.
Yeah, we were, like, making, like, gingerbread house.
We were having.
So nice.
And Gilly was, like, a puppy is going to be in our life.
So we got to kind of party now.
Yeah.
And, like, the first thing that happened bringing her home was she shit on the rug.
And we threw out the rug.
And our house is all hardwood floors, but we did have a rug in the living room at the time.
And she just goes right on over, takes the biggest shit.
I was like, I don't even know puppies could do that big.
And so, I was like, we're tossing the rug.
I'm not even trying to clean this.
But it was a really hard time.
It was like we were all the world was, it was like the second kind of wave of a lockdown, like a true.
We were not allowed to do.
stuff and so the and puppies are really hard yeah like people should not get puppies it was crazy
crazy and they like wake you up at night like babies right uh i had to every half hour go take her outside
if if you're trying to potty train them and like do it in a short of time as possible you have to
every half hour to show them and like cheer them on yeah yes good potty like it's wild yeah we were
standing outside going like kid potty and she was so cute but it was it was like I was so
happy to be back I was like oh god it's like such a our house is such a like haven I still feel so
like oh this is so good but that was such a hard time and then bringing a puppy into it was it was rocky
and then she got to be like five six months and we then became like completely obsessed with
the stock, but not before them.
It was, she was biting,
like we were covered
in bites, in scratches,
and constantly bleeding.
Constantly, like, holes.
I still have, like, my favorite sweat suits
that I was wearing every fucking day
have, like, holes all over the legs
because she would run and do a flying leap
and latch on with her teeth.
And just, like, hold on to your calf,
and you're like, what?
And there's still some pieces of furniture
where they're just, like,
Little bite mom.
Because she would just kind of like every single thing just be like,
I got to spray for it. But like the spray was like, it's like pepper spraying your own home.
So you would just be in the house and be like, oh, but that'll stop her.
It all like all the like shitty raising a puppy stuff paid off.
But it's so delayed.
She's such a good dog.
Yeah.
It's a lot of work.
Yeah.
And you killed it, Gilly.
That's so nice.
You killed it.
I also comically got a job two months in.
I didn't think Zoom, we didn't know Zoom was an option that our whole lives would turn to that.
So I was fully like, and Betsy would like take her for a couple hours, which was so nice.
And I would hide in my room and like cry in the shower.
Just sort of like, this is so hard.
Someone, Taylor Orsey, I don't know if you know them, but very nice person was like, I wanted to throw my puppy out the window.
And that gave me like the strength.
that I need.
I'm making it sound like something awful happened to us.
And it was just that I got a puppy.
It's hard.
It's like a baby.
It feels like it's a baby.
Yeah.
And it is a little baby.
Yeah.
But now I'll like be in my room and just hear like, I love you so much.
Same.
I'll just hear like, oh.
We don't know.
It makes me so happy.
Like I could cry.
It makes me so happy that like you are friends with her.
We're good friends.
Betsy's her best friends.
Oh, my goodness.
We're good friends.
I'm definitely the alpha.
Yeah, she listens to Gilly.
She does not listen to me.
I send Gilly videos of like, well, me and Wilma will be on the opposite sides of the
couch and she'll be like just kind of either laying down or even just sitting and I'll
just be like, Wilma, filming, Wilma, like 10 minutes long.
Wilma won't look at me.
Sometimes we'll even turn her head like farther away like Wilma.
And then I'll send them to Gilly and just be like.
It's really funny.
She does love you, but yeah, I don't think she respects you.
Now I'm that.
That's very funny.
I think, like, they're, like, equals in Wilma's eyes.
It's really cute.
My sister.
Yeah, that's my big sister.
I don't like when Clyde looks at me when I eat because it makes me feel like I starve him.
But I don't.
I feed him.
They'll just, like, stare at me.
Well, food's really nice.
So I go, Clyde.
Don't look at me, and he'll always just go.
Oh, God.
And then, like, look back and I go, no.
Stop it, Clyde.
A little drama boy with his tongue out now.
Uh-huh.
Very good.
With his tongue permanently out.
He doesn't have teeth.
He's got very few teeth.
Are you a dog part?
Like, how do you feel?
She's got a cat.
I have a cat.
Oh, beautiful.
Who is, I guess, a kitten still.
And crazy.
Congratulations.
Thanks.
Yeah.
Little black cat.
Oh, cute.
And, um, spooky.
Spooky.
Yeah.
It's like, you know, I guess he's growing up.
So sometimes he's crazy and he'll scratch me to high hell.
And sometimes he's the sweetest little boy ever and he'll like curl up on your chest and just per like crazy.
Oh, that's cute.
And so I'm like, okay, well, this is nice.
And then he starts scratching me.
And I'm like, okay, well, now you have to get off me.
What is your relationship like with Clyde and what is your, what is your cat's name?
Tricks.
Trick.
Yeah.
And what is your relationship with Tricks?
I haven't met Tricks one time.
Yeah.
And Tricks ran away from me.
He was skittish.
Okay.
But it's okay.
I'm deeply allergic to cats.
Oh, okay.
Isn't it weird that it's one, not the other?
No, I'm allergic to dogs.
Okay?
But not as allergic.
Dogs don't bother me, but cats, if I'm in a house that doesn't get swept or dusted often,
my eyes will start burning and welling up.
That happened to me yesterday, and then I'll start sniffling.
And then I'll start getting itchy.
Oh, no.
And if I pick up a cat and I have a cut, that cut will get really.
So, like, it's raised a little bit because a cat brushed against me yesterday.
Oh, my God.
So, yeah, it's fun.
Histamine.
Whoa.
I've been watching a lot of horror movies because right now I'm like, whoa, what a, like, what a wild, like, way to kill you.
I'm like bringing in a bunch of, like, cat stuff and, like, putting it in a wound.
Sorry, I've been watching a lot of.
horror movies and reading horror
and living it.
What is the scariest movie you've ever seen?
You like scary movies too, right?
No.
Oh.
I don't know.
We saw that the scary movie where people were on fire.
The monkey!
Yes, thank you.
Oh, I didn't like the monkey.
I can't believe you didn't.
I was upset.
Gilly's going to like this movie so much.
Mono and I loved it.
And we're like, Nicole, Gilly, come on.
You're going to love this movie.
I've seen it already.
A second watch.
Like within days, like a second one, within like two days, we're like, let's go see it again.
And Gilly like halfway through was like, why did you think I liked this movie?
And I was like, I'm sorry.
I'm not, I wasn't mad at you.
It was more just sort of like, I hate this movie so much.
Betsy loves Halloween.
She loves horror.
It is a year-round pursuit for you.
So, like, midway through September, she was like, can I decorate?
And you love it
And you got to do it
I put out a couple
And then Gillies like
Can you wait till October?
That's fair enough
That's fair enough
If I could
I would start after my birthday
In June
I think he's not decorating
I thought about it
Next year
I'm gonna
Right after your birthday
I'm gonna say
No
Get the ghosts out Betsy
I don't want to be a Halloween
Grinch
Get the haunted dolls
Let's just have
Fourth quarter is just
Halloween and Christmas
Why not
I genuinely mean this
I don't want to stand in the way
of any of your joy
Let's do it
But I also don't want, no, it's fine.
It's fine.
But what is the scariest movie you've seen?
That's hard.
Okay.
There's this movie called The Changeling.
From I think 1980 or 1984, I can't remember, starring George C. Scott.
That is terrifying.
I saw it as a kid way too young.
But it's like so good.
It's straight up a like haunted house ghost story.
And it is so scary.
and awesome.
I watched it recently
with my dad
when I was with him
a couple of weeks ago.
He was like,
do you want to watch
the Changeling?
I was like, yes.
Yes, I do.
Because it's like
in the Cedaro family
of like,
ew, we,
like it's so scary
but we love it.
And there's like
this really
spooky scene
where there's like
an old-timey
kids wheelchair
that like
starts moving
on its own.
and like hunts a woman down
and it is so it's so good
it's so good if y'all ever want to watch it we should watch it i have i will watch it
i love scary things you don't like scary things you know spooky uki no i jump at things
that are just like normal me too we went to burbank uh mono and some other i'm mark
and mary to look at like burbank has like known big decoration houses oh yeah and there was one
called clown alley and we were uh there was it was like a ticket booth like a like it was like a
circus with scary clowns and a thing had slid open so we had like just missed whatever it does clearly
and a woman was standing there filming and we're all standing back waiting for it to happen again
it's not happening and i was like to help this lady mostly i was like oh i maybe it's a sensor
we have to get closer and i walk up and get so scared like fully trying to make it do the
thing it doesn't like my brain cannot compute but like you're safe you're sitting in an AMC
it doesn't matter I'm so but but much like seafood Betsy has like drawn I've enjoyed some
horror movies yeah you have yeah when they're old it's really fun yeah like B movies
and you you know so many of them and then like if they're they're all the original cool ideas
right now so it's like I better get on board
right it was too scary
remember troll two
never seen troll two
we watched it we did we
us in mono at your house
the name doesn't signify what the movie is
where they have goblins and they like
leak green
Nilbog
troll too as a name is like
not what it is because there aren't trolls in the movie
Milbog
it's oblin backwards
no
I don't remember this it was so
afternoon like kind of recently
when was it? I was going to pull up
a picture but I don't have the internet on or anything
well it's really
bad if I considered one
like I vaguely remember
this. Bad but fun yes like kind of
bad acting like the room
where it's like celebrated for how
the room is really wild
I don't think I've watched it full
front to back but Mono was showing me
bits and pieces and I was like well this is
what? You would like it if you like
Madam Webb we went to a
screening of the room that was like Rocky Horror
style where people like throw spoons
at a certain time and like
spoons. There's something
in the, I can't even remember. There's like a lot of spoon
art in the
movie. Like there'll be like little
framed spoon pictures and stuff
so anytime you see a spoon
you huck like plastic
spoons. That's fun.
It's really cute. It was really fun.
Like people trying to have fun
in the world that we're in today like just
We get to do, like, pursue our dumb little interests.
And I feel so lucky all the time.
It is nice.
Yeah.
It's really nice.
Because some people are sad.
I know.
Yeah. I mean, I think we're all all so sad.
Yeah.
But we're trying to be happy.
Yeah, I think the world's in like a collective psychosis slash sadness.
Anywho.
Whoa.
That was good.
What's a core memory that comes to mind for you?
Like, what's your favorite time you've?
had together.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Yeah, so many.
That first Christmas back in the house is a big one.
That was real, where it was the lockdown and they're like, don't you, don't you even
go outside or whatever.
We had, we ordered from Fogo to Chow for Christmas, not even for Christmas Eve and
Christmas, just for Christmas.
And we got trays upon trays of food.
It was like catering for a party.
It was truly for like 12 people.
And we were just like, yeah, dude, it was so fun.
I love that.
San Diego was a big one.
That was the very beginning of your seafood journey.
A year long, this was years ago.
I got hired to do, remember how UCB would send, like, gig opportunities?
I would respond to those.
And I found out a lot of our friends were not doing that.
But I fully was and did a lot of them.
And I was playing a financial fortune teller at a finance convention.
I've done it multiple times in multiple cities.
Since then, for Ally Bank, and it was in, like, a big convention in San Diego, and I had a hotel room, and then they gave me drink tickets to the, like, big party at the end.
And so Betsy, just for fun, drove down.
He was like, come down, I have a hotel room.
It was so fun.
And I was like, okay, and we had so much fun.
We rode bikes, like city bikes around San Diego, which, like, I've never done before, so that was exciting.
And then we went to this party where people were like, hey, you like, the financial fortune dollar.
Like, thanks for telling me I was going to get rich in 10 years.
Like, really excited.
I'm going to make some investments.
And I was like, no.
Because it's you.
No, no, no.
It's you.
I'll count on you.
Yeah.
And people coming up to me being like, so what do you do in finance?
I'm like, social media.
Like, ooh.
Because we also were like, let's try to, like, fit in.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's like be finance.
Really, but we went to the Whaley House, which is considered one of like the most haunted houses, legit, actually a haunted, not a like jump out and scare you house in the United States in San Diego.
And we went to that and we like took a bunch of shots before going in it.
We had a blast.
It was so much.
And I remember at dinner, you got us a seafood baked potato.
And it was like a really big deal because that was like the first step.
What's the seafood big?
potato. I think it was lobster.
Yeah, yeah.
Like a baked potato like
with lobster. And the like twice
baked situation where it's like the stuff has
been, the inside has been taken out
mashed up and then baked again.
Oh, delicious. Yeah. That was really good.
That was a really fun hang.
And I feel it was
when was it?
Was it? No, we'd been living together for a while
in the house. Yeah, yeah. But still, that was
a long time ago. Yeah, it was a long time ago.
It was so fun.
Try I think of, we've had so many fun.
We get to do a lot of fun stuff.
Oh, hi.
We just went to Ohio.
We just went to Ohio and had the best time.
Have you been?
Mm-hmm.
It's so cool.
You got to go to Ohio.
I've been a couple times.
The food was incredible.
We like parked the car and never got in and again for like three days.
And we stayed at this fun like air stream place.
Oh.
And we brought Wilma.
It was so much fun
And we just ate and drank
And wandering around
It was so much fun
That sounds nice
Yeah
Just eating and drinking and wandering
Yeah
I love eating
Have you ever been to Slovakia
It's three hours away
And it's not called that
It's like a Dutch town
Solving
So my God
I was like
Travel to Eastern Europe
In a wormhole
Three hours away
We have been to Bulgaria
Together
We got to go to Bulgaria.
Oh, yeah, because you shot a commercial.
Yeah, yeah, that I meet one.
It's the funniest thing.
It's still going, baby.
No.
Betsy plays a little eye bug or an I might.
I might, yeah.
It's really fun.
Partying on an island.
Oh, God.
But then there's a medicine that kills all my friends.
It's pretty devastating.
But yeah, it's shot in Bulgaria.
Are there fun puns in the commercial?
Like, I might.
We're, oh, my God, if they make a second one.
I got to hit them up.
We need a sequel.
We need a sequel.
Wait, there aren't any puns.
But that's crazy.
No.
You're right.
Yeah, I don't know.
I had to get out a lot of information.
Yeah.
It is a far.
Like, yeah, with ex-pleveritis, like, shit like that.
We did it great.
But it was fun, and I got to bring Gilly.
That's fun.
Which was just a dream.
Everyone's like, who are you?
And I was like, I'm a friend.
Social media?
I don't know why I'm here either.
I don't know.
You guys said I could.
We just wanted to come to Bulgaria and we had an absolute blast in Bulgaria.
What do you do in Bulgaria?
What's fun in it?
You had a lot of fun food.
Yeah, we both, we got like the most round about, like, this is something we get to do at home too,
but we like to go to a restaurant and order like it's for catering.
And we got recommendations like through a friend, through a friend through like Aubrey Plaza or something.
because she'd shot there.
She had just shot a movie there or something
and gave us a list and we went through.
Under the Linden Tree, we went to that place twice.
It was, it's a lot, like, J-O-S-B-B-C-E-R-E-R is what they call.
Like, J-O-S-P-E-R is their, like, wood-fired, smoky meats.
Every menu had a huge J-Sper barbecue option, too.
So they have all this other stuff and then just meat.
delicious meat.
I think I thought it would be like hard scrabble
unseasoned kind of food
which honestly, sometimes it's fun
like eating like hard times food
like it becomes a cuisine.
Right.
There's a lot of hard times food.
Like Armenian food has like it's like a beef
that's like a salted beef wrapped in ghee
and it exists because of like in hard times
you would need to like find a way to like preserve the meat better
and you could like put it in butter
and it would last long lure and it's like
and also it's delicious and it's really good
I've never had it but we
because Betsy was working
but then we extended it and we
got a guy from the hotel to take
us on a day and we went to see
bat caves yeah and like a cool
waterfall we were like in the mountains
it's gorgeous it was really cool
yeah the Rila mountains outside of
Sophia Bulgaria
yeah we had a good time it sounds
amazing it was really fun
Yeah, we get to, like, go places, post up, get drunk, wander around, and then eat really big meals.
It's so great.
It's really nice.
It's nice.
It's really fun.
We have to wrap up soon, but I want to ask one last question.
Wow, fun killer.
Just kidding.
I know.
I looked at the clock, too.
I'm having a great time.
But, yeah, we have to end the episode eventually.
No, we know.
Talk forever!
But we ask all of our friends who come, where do you see you both 20 years from now?
Whoa.
Yeah.
So it's 2045.
Holy shit.
And there's still a society?
Yeah.
And we're still kicking.
I see us midway through building the early retirement community that I would like to build for
a bunch of our friends all of us um you're invited thank you um and we've made a bunch of shows at that
point um we like just started kind of working together in the last like couple of years like developing
something and it's really fun and i and i as a writer would just love to write silly things that then
betsy has to go do and everyone would love watching her yeah we've made like
Our third show and our retirement community,
like we've got like wooden frames in the beautiful location
that we bought land for this endeavor.
And we're like going on some other trip.
Cool.
I was going to say we all like a bunch of friends just run a cul-de-sac.
Yeah.
Like a whole street somewhere where we all own our own homes.
And then just, like, party in the middle of the street
because there's no rules.
I would love to have a, like, a retirement community
with all friends.
There's no rules.
In the one in building, we have individual abodes.
Don't worry.
It's not like a commune.
Everyone has private space.
But there is, like, a clubhouse of, like,
you can play pool and games.
And then I do think there should be a stage.
Everyone laughs when I said this,
but, like, you think we're not going to want to do improv
when we're in our 60s.
We're going to want to do improv.
We're going to want to do improv.
There should be a stage.
I have a character bit I want to work at
That's just going to stop
Nope let's do improv till we die
What are you guys
Yeah what's your dream
Would you like to join our commune?
Yeah I would
I would like to live
In a retirement community with people I know
Because I feel like
A lot of old people are just dying alone in their homes
Or they're like withering away because nobody talks to them
or they're in a nursing home or nobody likes them or cares about them.
So I want to be with friends.
Or they're tagging in on a group game on the stage in my community.
Why die by yourself when you could get a word and do the pattern game.
That is like.
I haven't thought about a pattern game in years.
Oh, my God, let's do it right now.
Okay, can we get a suggestion of anything at all?
Beef.
Beef.
I heard beef.
I vaguely remember how to do this. Let's go.
Is this like word, word, word?
It's like A to C.
They're like, glows, remember the Glover.
A to C, but we're coming back to the original one.
And I find that so hard.
What was the suggestion?
Beef.
Okay, thank you.
Chewy.
Dog toy.
Vest.
Marine.
Whale.
Oh.
Hardy?
Bees!
Uh, ooh, oh, uh, I hate you.
Okay, okay, okay.
And this is what, uh, you can expect at the recovery.
That was a commercial for the retirement community.
And people were like, whoa, wait, what?
You know what?
They all need to die alone in the nursing house.
They deserve to be there.
I wouldn't ask an audience to watch us do that ever again.
I remember my first.
Harris Harold and I was like, what is this?
Anyway, I mean, yes, we could do
a show off of that. In 20 years,
I would like to,
we've worked together a bunch,
I've worked with other friends a bunch,
and then I do want to live near
my friends. Yes. I don't
like that sometimes friends go far away.
Yeah, that's crazy. I, like, we gotta
stick together. Yeah. We have
to. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, I want to grow old with my friends,
and we all raise our pets together.
and yeah we create a bunch of stuff together and um and then we get to like travel and garden together
and eat cool foods yeah that kind of stuff we can do more of the same because we're kind of doing it
and now it's just like more of the same it's nice more of the same i'd be happy do you divas have
anything you want to promote no hell yeah you can listen to my podcast
a funny feeling and we love trash
if you're nasty.
Yeah, only if you're nasty.
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