Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata - Sasheer Respects the Rules of the Road

Episode Date: August 20, 2025

We're back! Sasheer just returned from a gorgeous trip to Japan and is ready to fill us in on all of her fun travel stories. She also has a special souvenir for Nicole that (spoiler!) Nicole goes nuts for. Also discussed: the why? of wearing thongs, chicken breasts vs thighs, and the age old question of "Where's the beef?"Watch this full video on YouTube and follow below!Follow Nicole: Twitter, Instagram, TikTokFollow Sasheer: Instagram, TikTokLike the show? Rate Best Friends 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts!Have a friendship question for Nicole and Sasheer to solve? Leave us a voicemail at [phone]‬ or write in at [e-mail] Friends is a production of Headgum Studios. Our producer is Allie Kahan. Our executive producer is Anya Kanevskaya. The show is edited, mixed, and engineered by Casey Donahue.This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Best Friends via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a headgum podcast. Hi, Sashir. How are you? I'm good. I just got back from Japan. Oh, you do seem fresh from overseas. She had a trip. Did you eat a lot of sushi?

I ate so much sushi. Man, that's nice. Yeah, a lot of sushi, a lot of ramen, a lot of beef. Yeah, it was good. A lot of beef. It was a lot of beef. A lot of random beef. There was a lot of beef around.

Interesting. Yeah. Japan to me is not like, I don't think of Japan and then beef. Yeah, no, lots of beef, but mostly sushi, I think. Yeah, it was great. Do you remember when, like, big food had commercials, like big milk had got milk? And then it was like, beef, it's what's for dinner. Yes.

And then there was an old 80s commercial I was like, where's the beef? Yes! We were looking for the beef. That's how much we wanted the beef. But also it's like, were people not consuming enough beef? Oh, maybe that was for like Burger King or like some fast food restaurant where they were like, look. I have an image in my head of an older woman opening a sandwich, like lifting the bun, and the patty, beef patty was so tiny. And she was like, where's the beef?

you can't excuse me this is this is the beef like it wasn't enough beef and i guess maybe burger king or whoever was advertising was providing enough beef enough beef that is so funny imagine being called to set and then someone asking you to do that in earnest and they're like no there's no joke about it i want you to open up that button and go where's the beef i mean it was effective because i still remember it decades later i still remember it where's the beef where's the beef where's the beef That's, oh my God. How funny. Yeah.

And I wonder why it was, it's pretty cow forward. Got milk. Where's the beef? Oh, interesting. Yeah. How come it wasn't cluck, cluck? Where's the chicken? I don't know if people are begging for chicken like that.

Even Chick-fil-A has cows on their, on their posters. They sure do. They're like, yes, it's cows being like, go to Chick-fil-A. Don't eat us. Don't eat us. Get chicken. Get chicken. Can I tell you, I thought,

Chick-fil-A was called Chick-Flicka? Like a rapper? I don't know. But I was like, oh, wow, this new restaurant, Chick-Flicka. And then I just never set it out loud. And someone was like, oh, I'm going to go to Chick-fil-A. And I was like, that's what it's called. That happens to me a lot.

Yeah, I'm sorry. It's okay. It's just wild. The same thing happened with Beyonce's hair care line. I thought it was called Creed, Created, Creed. It's sacred. Sacred. But spelled with a C.

I actually, even in this moment, I wasn't confident in what it was actually, like how it was pronounced. I was like, I thought, because I was like, maybe it's secret? Sacred. Sacred. With a C. She's trying to make me look stupid. And why would Beyonce do that to me?

I spend so much money to see her every time she's in town. Don't do that to me. Yeah. Make it easy. Make it easy. Sacred with an S. Yeah. And a A.

Because isn't it like C-E-R-E-D? something like that it's pretty hard it's so tough who do you think came up with that probably Tina Miss Tina house of derion yeah I was calling that something too before

I think we talked about this before but I think they should actually re-release house of darion as is like what it was from the 2000s yes literally released that right now and it would crush yes because it's in right now yes can I tell you

I've saved some of my baby fat jeans and I was cleaning out my closet and I found my big fats and I put them on and I was like these were not made for a big butt I don't know how I was wearing them half my butt is out I think that was also the style back then

I think you have the truly like the waist around your butt like half like butt and thigh meat out of these jeans yeah what a wild time where we were just not covering ourselves fully thongs were showing thongs were showing

Yeah. Oh, I know we've talked about this, but I remember the first time I put on a thong, I was like, what? What? Why are these people walking around like this? I know. My butt eats a thong. Yeah. There's a hungry, hungry hippo back there.

I don't love a thong. I feel like it just like moves around too much. Yes. It rarely stays where I wanted to stay. Yes. I feel like thongs are for people who don't have enough going on in their lives. They're like, I need a problem. This is a secret problem.

Just my own little personal. problem. I'm so uncomfortable talking to this person. It's my little secret. But I talk to people who are like, they prefer thongs. Like it feels more comfortable to them. Maybe it's small butted people. Maybe. And the butt's not hungry. Maybe. So it just sits there? I have no idea. I don't know. Wait, tell me more about Japan. Oh, I got a gift. Oh my God. It's here. It's here. Oh, my God. Ooh, it looks like it's been through it. They had to make the travel. Oh, my goodness. I didn't want to open it for you. I just wanted you to have the opportunity to experience the whole thing. This is tough to get into. Do you want me to help you? No.

I've never feverishly tried to get into something that was so hard to get into. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Not as bubble wrap. This is wild. Sashir, what is it? Oh, it's a peanut Oh my god

Oh my god I love this I love It's a little peanut lady A little peanut lady And she's got green hair Oh my god And she doesn't have a mouth

But she looks so happy Oh my god And she's not a swing so you can hang her from somewhere I'm going to hang her on a window sill Oh, not a sill. On a window. Frame? Handle?

Yes. I love her so much. Yay, I'm glad. Her name's Cindy. Oh, great. I like her. Can you put that in my purse so I don't forget her? Sure thing.

And I'll clean up my trash. I can put the trash over here too. No, no, I'll do it. Okay. You have to clean up after yourself and you get gifts. That's the rule. That's really nice. Thank you.

You're welcome. I went to this little market. It was like, we went to this like ski town, but like there's no snow there right now. But there was like, oh, they're cute stuff. And we saw a bunch of flower fields and stuff. And there was this like little kind of like fairy like market where you go to different shops and they had different crafts and stuff like that. And this lady made like stuff out of peanuts. Wait, that's a real peanut?

I think it's a real peanut. I mean, I guess it's a real peanut. I mean, I guess I didn't test it. Oh my goodness. You didn't crack her open? But I assumed, yeah, I think that she like made little people out of peanuts. I love that because I love nuts. I love nuts so much. Have we talked about this on the podcast? I don't know if we have. This is actually a new fact for me.

I didn't realize how much you loved nuts until we went to, took that train ride in South Africa. And every time I turned around, you were just sitting on the bed eating nuts. At one point, you were like, do you want to go to dinner? Do you want to sit on that bed and eat your nuts? And I was like, wow, coming from my nuts hard. But I love nuts. I love peanuts. I love the, I was calling them hot nuts for a while. And then I was calling them nuts for you.

But I think they're just nuts for nuts in New York. Oh, yeah. The like the little carts in Times Square. Oh, my God. I went and saw a show and maybe we did talk about this. Or maybe I've told enough people that it feels like I said it on the podcast. But I was with my friend Jen, and I was like, Jen, I think I can find a nut man. And she was like, okay.

And I was like, come on, let's just walk down the street. So we were like, we're walking in Times Square, which is hellish. But I found the Nutman. And she was like, Nicole, I have never seen you so elated and excited. And the Nutman was like, how many do you want? I was like, just one bag. He was like, I could do three for five. And I said, three for five, what a deal?

And I was like, do you take cards? He was like, no. not for five dollars and i was like oh and jen was like it's fine i have five dollars and then i met up with my friend evan in bryant park and i was you know trudging up the subway stairs and i looked up and there was another nutman and i went oh no man he we made eye contact and he went okay and i was like sir he's like he's not even that excited for his own business no and boy oh boy i love nuts yeah and then I had an epiphany that I'm going to get a tattoo of a sexy peanut that says I love nuts and I found so many references online for my tattoo artist and by references I mean I sent her

pin up people yeah and then the planter's peanut man and I say mix him make him make him sexy Making a sexy lady. I'm so excited. I want her to have lashes. I want her to be hot. Is she going to have a top hat or just no hat? No hat. Maybe some hair.

Okay. And I want her to be in like a bikini. Yeah. I want her big lips. I want her to be a nut slut. Oh wait. Should I say nuts let's say nuts let? Ooh, interesting.

Maybe you'll say nutslet here and then I love nuts. Or a nut slut, colon. We're turned to net mouth. Maybe I should do that. And then when people are back, they're looking, what's wrong with you? You have so much to read on your body. Yes, in case anyone gets bored. They're like, oh, look at this.

I once dated a man who said the backside of me looked like a race car. And at first I was like, ha, ha, ha. But the more I thought about it, I was like, that's not something you say to somebody. That's not nice at all. you're sponsored you're highly sponsored but I'm not getting a lot of money I'm not getting any of the money

interesting yeah I guess I should see if planters will sponsor you to pay for this tattoo maybe maybe I could be the planters peanut girl and then they can dress me up like a sexy peanut in Times Square in Times Square I don't know where would you send me Union Square No I don't think

I don't think they have to send it to any Like you do a commercial for them. I don't think they need to put you in a costume and send you to a square. I think you're right. Think bigger, girl. Yeah, I'm going to do national spots. There you go. Yeah.

And I'm going to say, I love nuts. That's are so good. Yeah. I went to a Dodgers game. I saw baseball in person for the first time. Oh, yeah. And, well, I mean, I've seen it in, like, school, but that's not. A professional, yeah.

And they have nuts. And I was having a nice time. Just, and you could just, it's like a longhorn steakhouse. You just put them on the floor. Is that what happens? That longhorn? Yeah. Oh, I had no idea.

You've never been to a longhorn steakhouse? I don't think I have. Oh, they got a basket of nuts. And just put it on the floor? You put it on the floor. I guess someone's drop at night is to sweep. Yeah. I feel like the places I know of where you can get nuts,

that's a feature where you just throw the shells. on the floor. Yeah. But like five guys. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, five guys. I know everywhere you could get nuts. Dodgers games, five guys.

But it's just so freeing. You don't get to throw trash on the ground often. No. But when you eat nuts, you can. Yeah, you can be a little messy. Yeah. Grimlin. Yes.

Okay. It's a nice time. What else did you do in Japan? It was mostly flat. It was my anniversary with my girlfriend. It was very cute. And we went to all these, like, flower fields and flower farms. I went to Hokkaido.

And, like, there was a random farm that had, like, an ATV where you can go around the land and look at the flowers. And then we went up, like, a, like, a chairlift to see flowers. We just saw flowers in different ways. And then we ended up in Tokyo. And I was so overwhelmed. It was like, it was like New York on steroids. It was so crazy. And I felt like everyone was like zipping around.

Somebody like ran into me and the lady, it's like just like, oh, let's get that out. My girlfriend was just like zipping through. And then we like landed at this conveyor belt sushi place. And she was like, you know, what do you want to eat? And I was like, I need a minute. Like I just like was staring off. I was like, I can't think. I'm like rattled.

I can't even process was happening. And there was a family behind me. And the little girl was like, there's too many people. I want to go back to the hotel. The mom's like, it's okay. It is a lot. And I was like, I feel you, girl. Wait, did you say this out loud to her?

I did it. You should have. You should have. You should have been like, I'm an adult and I feel the same way. It's okay. You're not alone. We're all going through it right now. It was a lot.

Yeah. I wonder where they were from, though, because you're from city life. Yeah. City living. You've lived in cities. Yeah. But like, what if she was from Idaho? Yeah.

And all she knows is potatoes. And then all of a sudden she's in Japan. like that's wild I know yeah this is true yeah I usually can handle a city but I was like quite overwhelmed and maybe also because we just came from like really slow farm life and then we just you know riding around a nice little ATV being like a pink one yeah a yellow flower a green flower and they were like in the Shibuya crossing and I was like ah and then a man ran into me and I and I fought him yes I never fight people in public but I did yes go to a foreign country fight what did you do so we were like waiting at the crosswalk because that's what you do i i hadn't

noticed anyone jaywalking so i was like well i won't jaywalk i don't be the one well you don't jaywalk i also don't jaywalk you love following the rules of the road i do and this man i don't know where he was from europe or somewhere like was grumbling behind me he's like what are we waiting for and then like shoulder checked me and kept walking and I was like oh my gosh this man just fully ran into me and I was like I want to fight him and my girlfriend was like yeah let's go find him and I was like

okay and we like hurried up to him and I was like excuse me do you know you ran into me and he was like ugh sorry and I was like are you and he was like I mean I wasn't talking to you and I was like I don't care who you were talking to

your body hit my body and he was like holding hands with some lady who looked really embarrassed. She should be. Yeah. I hope they broke up. I hope so too. And I was like, I was like looking at her like, what?

This is your man. This is your man? And yeah, he was like kind of acting like a child, but he looked like he was like at least 60 something. 60 something. Yeah. True. Like stomping his feet being like, oh, I wasn't trying to do anything.

And I was like, I don't need much from you. I just need an apology. And he was like, have a good night. And I was like, you too, man. And then we, like, left and, like, went about our night. But I was like, that's crazy. That is crazy. People are wild.

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walked in, there was just like just stairs. And I was like, and I looked around and there was no way around it. You had to grab your bags and go up the stairs and I was like, strike one. Get to the counter checking in the lady's like, IG credit card, you know, normal check-in procedure. I hand it to her. she then throws them on the counter hands me a piece of paper and she goes fill that out and I was like fill that out you just you have all the information you need and I'm filling it out and she was like did you get an email and I said no I'm no I'm talking to you no no checking right now yeah I was like how how could I look at my do you see a phone in my hand ma'am do you see me checking Gmail so then I was like okay I guess I will fill this out and then you she was like, well, our systems are down. And I said, okay, those are your systems. That has nothing

to do with me. Yeah. So then I'm like writing it and I'm like with a little bit of sass, a latitude. And then she was like, well, I've, and then picks up a piece of paper. She's like, I've been handwriting these all day. And I said, okay, again, that's not my problem. And she's like, why upgraded your room? And I was like, okay, I don't know. I haven't been in the room yet. So everything you're saying to me is wild. And she's like, well, you see me. upset and I was like I mean I'm doing your job and she's like but our systems are down and I was like I would just like to check into the room please yeah she could have said that first she'd be like so sorry our systems are down things are a little hectic right now yes do you mind filling this out

or I can do it make me feel like I'm doing you a solid at your job that just hand you a paper I didn't clock in I don't work here so then we get to the room the room's nasty and I hate it and the air conditioning was off and it was 100 degrees in DC. Oh my God. And I looked around and I was like, well, I hate it here. I don't like it.

And then my boyfriend was like, do you want coffee? And I was like, sure, yeah, I'll drink their coffee. So then he made me coffee. And then I was like, would you be mad if we switched hotels? And he was like, nope, whatever you need to do? I was like, great. Yeah.

So then we were leaving, getting the Uber. And then the manager runs downstairs and he's like, is everything okay? And I said, no, we're leaving. And he goes, what was wrong? And I said, everything. And then the Uber driver laughed real hard. And I was like,

And then he closes the door and we start moving. And then he opens a door again and goes, the property? And I was like, yeah. The manager opened your car door. Yes. And I was like, yeah, the property. He goes, the service. And I was like, yeah, all of it was bad and we're leaving.

It was nasty and I hated it. Oh, I don't like that. And then I looked at the Yelp reviews and this man had found cockroaches in there. So I was glad I didn't stay there. You dodged a bullet. I sure did. Because if I saw a roach in my room, ooh, we, I'd lose my dang mind. Yeah, disgusting.

Mm-hmm. I hated it. I'm glad he switched. Thank you. But I was ready to fight that lady. I was ready to throw her down the stairs and say, figure out how to get back up. Your systems are down. Here's a form for you to fill out.

Also, the man who rushed over to help us with our bags was 110 years old. It was Matthew's love being like, you can't do that yourself. And I was like, and you can't help me. I don't want you to help me. You're so old. It'd be worse if you help me. Oh, my goodness. I love fighting.

You really do. Well, everyone should act right. It would be nice. Don't act bad. We really do. Yeah. It's nuts to me. I did.

I feel like the universe like, uh, gave me a redemption apology because on the, on the plane leaving, this woman like accidentally bumped me, like was backing up and bumped my back. And she turned around. She goes, oh my God, I'm so sorry. And I was like, oh, it's, it's fine. Like, we're all putting our stuff in there. We, we don't, you know, you didn't see me. And she's like, no, I am so sorry.

Oh, God. Can't believe I bumped into it. And then, like, time passed. And then, like, I was, like, trying to put something back up into the overhead bend. And she was like, oh, let me get out your way. Because I bumped into you earlier. I don't want to do it again. And I was like, this is really fine.

This is a lady with trauma. She once bumped into someone and then got punched or something. Maybe. Yeah. She was like, not again. I was like, it really is okay. But I also feel like women leaning people, I don't know, tend to over-apologize for things. Yes, definitely. So.

Yeah. And then men walk through the world being like, oh, L. whoever I want. I know, and not apologize. Yeah. You know what I noticed? What? Okay, so while I was in Japan, but this also happens other times when traveling too,

do you notice, like, sometimes you'll see a black person in a space that's not majority black and will smile? Yes. Or, like, wave or something? Yes. I like it. It happens here. Yeah. And it happens overseas, but only with Americans.

Yes, exactly. Because I, it's a very interesting thing. I was in an air and I think leaving the Tokyo airport and there was these two older black women I think they were American and they were like hot like really like hi I was like oh hi and then like you know we ate separately and then as I was sleeping I was like have a safe flight and they're like you too yeah when I was in Greece I kept smiling and nodding like just being like and then the black people I did it too didn't do it back and I was like oh my God what's happening and then I was like pretty far

out in the ocean and then I saw a black couple and I was like oh they look like they're having a nice time and then the wife nodded at me and I almost drowned trying to be like hello but yeah it's only Americans and I don't know why the European

black people don't have the solidarity about things yeah there was like a museum I was going through and there was a group of black women who I don't know where they're from but they didn't look American and no smiles and I was like the hell yes give me my smile Skimmy my smile. I deserve it.

I'm black. But I guess, I don't know, maybe it's just like a, like a, hey, I see you. Or I don't know, like, isn't it crazy we're here together? I kind of think so. Yeah. But yeah, maybe the European black people are like, who cares that we're all together? I'm good. Who gives a shit?

Yeah. I don't know. It's wild. Yeah. But I did. I liked every smile I got. I was like. Yes.

Got another one? I liked every smile I got. I mean, I love smiles. I also really like when I compliment someone on their outfit, and they're like, thank you, girl. Or they're like, I got it from so-and-so. I think it was in the airport. There was a lady with a purple away bag. That's the same color as mine, and I had mine.

I was like, oh, my God, suitcase twins. And this lady frowned, kept walking. And I was like, oh, my God. And the person I was with was like, damn, are you okay? I was like, I don't know. I don't know if I'll recover. And I thought about it for so long because it really hurt my feeling. Oh, no.

Why couldn't she just go, yeah, twin, or like, cool. Yeah. Like, oh. But it was inactive, like, and then, like, she walked faster. Maybe she, I don't know, I was going to say, maybe she, like, thought she, was original, but if it's an option on the website, you're not the only one who has it. It is limited edition. Oh, interesting. So maybe she was, she was like, not as limited as I thought. Yeah, she was mad about it. Yeah. But I was like, we're purple people. We picked out purple

suitcases. Purple people, we're special people. We're different from the rest. We are. Like, I like purple. I'm head to toe in purple. This is true. I love purple. Yeah, it is funny. People who love purple are just like purple everything. Yes. I can be head to show in purple or leopard print at any moment. Any moment. You don't know.

You don't know how I'm going to show up. Coming at you. And that's a threat. It is kind of a threat. And I feel like not enough people wear purple. I have purple in the shirt. Not really. I guess this is blue.

Yeah, that's blue. But what do you think this little one is? I think that's a magenta or a fuchsia. And that's in the pink. family? I think it's in the purpley pink. Okay. But I wouldn't call it purple. Yeah. I think that's stolen valor if you say that's purple.

I definitely don't want to steal any valor. Well, I won't say it's purple. Here's a question. You know at the airport when we're boarding and they go, active duty military. Do they check cards? I feel like they do.

I feel like I've seen people pull out ID or something like that. And the military gives you an ID? I would guess so. Oh, I guess maybe to clock in? Clock in? Do you clock in the military? It's wild how little I understand about other jobs.

When my dad was active duty in the Air Force, even I had a military ID card to go onto the military base. So maybe, yeah, maybe you do. Yeah, your card gets you into the base, probably gets you discounts at different things. The commissary. Yeah, you have reasons to show it. Here's a question. When you were in Japan, did you see anything you remembered from when you lived there? No. Wow. Wow. I was why I was a baby. Wow. Wow. Wait to not. Hold that in your heart. That's your, that's, you lived there. I did. I was born in Okinawa. We left when I was 10 months old. And you're right. I didn't have any long-lasting. Did you go to Okinawa?

No, it's so far. I can't believe you didn't visit where you used to live. But I want to go there next year. how do you get no that's a dumb way to ask that how far away is okinawa from tokyo i think it's kind of far it's like way south and it's an island oh see you can't we probably can't take a train there unless there's a bridge i don't even think it's that close to take a train yeah did you get on the trains yeah i did i want to get on a bullet train so bad yeah i you know i don't know who we talked to We were talking about this earlier. Planes that have never fallen out of the sky or fallen out of the sky.

Yeah. And we need big train to, like, Amtrak needs to step up and be like, we'll do it. We will make a high-speed train from, like, New York to Boston or L.A. to Vegas. What do they need? I guess money. But I'm like, people still take Amtrak. Do you not have enough? Can you merge with somebody?

Yeah. Merge with somebody or do it GoFund me. Like, I would contribute to Amtrak's GoFund me. Yeah, definitely. Because we have plenty of railway. Like we have, it's already done. Like, it's just, just sitting there. Just make a high speed train.

Yes. It'd be so nice. And then when you drive through the country, there's so much of this country that's not paved or anything. Put some trucks down. Level it. Level it. Look it. I think it's just so wild that I can't go from, like, here to Portland on a, like, on a high speed train.

I know. It's crazy. And I feel like they keep. Like the conversation keeps coming up and then it gets killed for some reason. Because big airplane says we want to kill off people. Yeah. That's wild. Would you eat on the plane?

Yum, yum, yum. What did I eat? I think I had some sort of like beef, rice, like dish on the way back. And on the way there, it was breakfast. And I don't know, some egg something or other. Fair. But it wasn't like Japanese specifically. It was just...

On the way back, it wasn't Japanese specific? No. They were like, you're leaving. We don't care anymore. I know. But I feel like on most flights on the way back from somewhere, they're like, we're going to give you one last taste of the local cuisine now. That's so rude.

I said, welcome back to the States. Even the airport, even the terminal I was in, I was like, you can't even get any, like, cool treats anymore. They're like, you're done. Wait, really? Yeah. I mean, there was, like, some places that had, like, cool Japanese candy or, like, sweets, but as far as like souvenirs, they were like,

oh, bye. You should have done that already. Interesting. Because in like the Amsterdam airport, I feel like it's pretty Amsterdam-y. Yeah. I got that big teapot. I don't know if it's Amsterdam,

but I love sitting in it. That was a really big teapot. It's so fun. Yeah. Sometimes when I buy flights, I will route myself through Amsterdam. Just find that teapot? Yeah.

I love that teapot. I just like that airport. And you get to fly KLM. Yeah. Oh, I love KLM. That's where I discovered I like soup. That's true. You try the soup.

I did, and it was so good. Is that also where we got those, like, houses? Yes. It's full of liquor. It's full of liquor. That's what it's full. I was like, what's it full of? Yeah.

But I can't figure out how to open it, so I just have the houses are just displayed. I've never even tried to open it. Yeah, they're just displayed. Yeah, I don't know how to open it. I'm not going to. Mm-mm. That was a gift. It stays in there.

Wait, so you saw flowers. What was the best meal that you ate? Ooh, interesting. The best meal that I ate, I had really good ramen. Ramen was great. I love ramen. And then there was a place that had these, like, chicken skewers.

It was, like, all skewers, like, beef skewers, chicken skewers. They also had, like, some, like, stuff I was like, I'm not going to try that. Like, chicken gizzard or, like, uh, beef heart and I was like no I'm getting on that thank you I tried chicken heart once it is so chewy yeah in a way that I simply did not like it's not it's not for me I um wait a minute you remember we were talking about big foods yes I feel like big chicken had a hold on us for a little bit because I feel like I only ate chicken breast for a very long time and I feel like They were like, everyone was like, eat chicken breast.

It's healthier. And then I had a chicken thigh. They're great. And they're so good. Everyone seemed to know about it except for me. But like, colorically, it's basically the same. Yeah. So why are they, why were breast pushed so hard?

Was it, was it whitewashing? Like, oh my God, you heard it here first. They're like, got to have white meat, not dark meat. Dark meat's bad. Dark means criminals. It's criminal. Yeah, dark week will break into your house. White meat has a good credit score.

Maybe. Maybe the propaganda of chicken breast is anti-black. Yeah? We should take a break. Oh boy, and we're back. And we're back. Yeah. I wonder, I don't know who started the chicken propaganda.

I don't know either. Mm. Mm. I'm not falling for it. Not anymore. Not anymore. Not anymore because chicken thighs are just so juicy. They're just so good.

Mm-mm. Mm-hmm. I made nachos last night. They were pretty bad. What did you put on it? I put ground beef. but I didn't season it well. And then the avocados weren't ripe enough,

so they were loose. We ever had loose quackamoli? No. It was so sad. Yeah. It was just so hard. So I did chips, my unseasoned or my poorly seasoned ground beef,

some Mexican blend cheese, my loose guacamole, and then some sour cream. And it just like, it wasn't good. I'm sorry. Hey, it's okay. You put the effort in. Thank you.

And this is the second time this week. I think I've made bad nachos. Damn. I think I have to give up. Maybe nachos aren't your thing. No. But then I'm like, what is my thing? Simple sandwiches, that's it.

Hey, sandwiches are great. They are really good. But I wish... I wish I was a better cook. Oh, I wish one day I could be a good cook. I wish I'd wake up with a ratatooey on my head who could help me cook. That would be nice. I haven't watched Ratatooey in.

a minute. I haven't either. I did go on the Ratatouille ride at Disney and you're little like a little rat and then you're kind of like going through the kitchen and there's like huge food around you and like shoes and stuff

and you're like ah! It's fun. Here? No, this is at Disney World. Bitch, I don't know the difference is the world's in Florida and the land is here. Correct. Oh my God. Why would they do that? I don't know.

They should just say Disney, L.A., Disney Others. Disney Others? They don't deserve their own name? Well, what is like Disney Paris? Is it like Disney Prairie? Like, I don't know. Land, world. I think it's, it might be just Disney Paris?

I don't know. What is this? Then why isn't it Disney California and why isn't it Disney Florida? What's Tokyo Disney? Is it Tokyo Disney? Yeah, you're right. you're right I'm mad

I don't understand land world and people look at you dumb the way you just did it's not my fault they named it stupid you're right I guess maybe

because I think land was first so they were like well it's Disneyland and then maybe when they realize they can expand they're like we're going to make a Disney world and then when they went overseas they're like oh well now we need

to be specific short-sighted Did L.A. come, or Anaheim, the people will probably come from me. They're like, it's not in L.A. It's an Anaheim. Disney adults are sick. Did the Anaheim one come first and then the Florida one? I do believe it was Anaheim first and then Florida, I think. Mm-hmm. And then here only has the two parks, and then the world has a bunch of it. They have Epcot, Epcot, Animal Kingdom, Magic Kingdom.

Spish flash. They have a splash splash splash. They do have a Typhoon Lagoon. And... Wild that you know all this. You're a secret Disney adult. I used to work there. I know. Oh, I know. I know you walked on stilts there. Never showed a picture. I never knew this part about you.

Had to learn on a podcast. Yeah. But yeah, I'm kind of a Disney adult. All right. I guess you're not sick. Thank you. You're welcome. Yeah, I don't know. I like it. I've been itching to go to a water park.

Oh, okay. Yeah, I want to get in that nasty water. Yeah. I want to get on a slide. They just seem nasty. They are nasty. Yeah. But, you know, you could wear swim armor.

Like a night? Like a chain link? No, my cousin's baby wears long-sleeved things. Okay, yeah. Like a guard. swim guard. Honestly, armor and guard are kind of similar words. Hey, thank you.

It's really kind. That's really kind. But yeah, we're like swim guards. And then that should kind of protect you. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's true. I'm not selling you on this, am I?

I'm not a water person in general. So I'm not really dying to be in other forms of water. But remember in Hawaii when we got on that slide and you said it was fun? That was a fun slide. And then you made me walk through a waterfall and I was like, huh. I know. I don't like water coming. Atop my head.

You don't like droplets dancing on your head? I don't. Huh. Mm-mm. Like maybe if it's raining? And I'm like, okay, there's no option. I guess I'll walk through this rain. Fair.

I don't love when rain falls on me. Let the rain fall down and in your heart and everybody goes for. Because the rain is either too cold or too hot. This is true. That's never refreshing like you think it's going to. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's either like, ew, too warm or like, ooh, too cold. Yeah.

There was, I went to the D.C. zoo. I haven't been to a zoo in a really long time. It was so hot. It was like 100 degrees. It was so humid. Also, some of the ugliest people I've ever seen were at this zoo. I was like, y'all don't belong behind this cage. But they had misters there.

And I was like, I can't imagine getting misted with maybe lukewarm water and then walking around the rest of the day. Yeah. That's wild. And then, like, where's the water coming from? Mm-hmm. I don't know. I didn't see a water supply that wasn't attached to an animal. You think he's coming straight from the animals?

Yeah, maybe they're spraying people with seal water. No. I don't know. Have you seen the videos of all these performances happening at SeaWorld? Yes. It's so funny. It's very, very funny. Why are their rap performances happening at SeaWorld?

Because they said, how do we get people to SeaWorld? we'll just have a little bow welcome. Yeah, and Fat Joe, Soldier Boy, it's funny. It is very funny. We should go to SeaWorld for a performance. I would love to go to SeaWorld for a performance. I think that would be really nice. Yeah.

Yeah, I think Seaworld got a bad rap, you know? For sure. Yeah. I think for good reason. I think it's also for good reason. And I do feel bad about animals in captivity. Yeah. Did they change anything?

Did they change their ways? I actually haven't looked up to see if SeaWorld has actually amended anything. Maybe that's why they're having performances, so they're like, come see the performance and see how we've changed. I hope. I hope so, too. Yeah. And I wonder if the animals were happy at the zoo. I kept wondering.

But I was like, I'm going to be quiet about it because I don't want to ruin anybody else's zoo experience. Yeah. But I saw Mirkats and I was like, are you guys happy? Yeah. And then they had guinea pigs. And I was like, at the zoo? Give that pet smart. Yes.

That's at the zoo. That's very funny. And then they had like little houses. and jungle gyms for them. And I was like, that's not natural to their habitat. What are we doing? You know, and they're like out in the wilderness, climbing on their house.

And then the gorillas, they looked so sad. I feel probably the worst for gorillas because they are so close to humans. Their eyes look like they have emotions. Their hands look like our hands. It's just like, it's just a person walking around back there. Yeah. And I wouldn't want to be in a cage, the same cage, every day.

Yeah. I feel like if you have animals like it's got to be like very big. It has to be like a section, like a huge section for them. And then all like, like around the zoo they had like placards or like signage to be like,

oh, what you're looking at. And for the gorillas, they had this like sturdy male gorilla and then like a slutty lady gorilla. Like her legs were kind of open. And I was like, oh my God. I was like, DC Zoo, you're being wild.

What else did I say? that I liked. I just, I like the little monkeys. Yeah. Oh, they're so cute. And then they had a skunk.

I also was like, what are we doing? Did you run out of animals to have here? Did you just catch a skunk here and be like, you live here now? Or maybe like, are there some animals that are not allowed to have anymore? So maybe they're like trying to fill space.

Maybe. Some also just went extinct. Yeah. A lot of the birds, they were like, oh, this is very close to being extinct. or this is endangered. So I guess zoos are good in that aspect

because they're keeping some species alive. And they had so many flamingos. Oh, that's fun. I cried. You love flamingos. I love a flamingo. They're so incredible. Yeah.

They're so fun. They're wild to look at. Those long necks? Long legs? Big beaks? They're crazy. Short torso? Short.

And then they got the booties? Yeah. My goodness. They're pretty wild. A caboose on a flamingo is fun to look at. they are nuts. I love them. Yeah.

And then I got to see them getting fed, and that was, they were so polite. They like let people go one, or people, they let some of the flamingos go like one at a time. And I was like, oh my goodness, I love this. There's rules here. Well, you know, at Animal Kingdom in Disney World, they have a huge section for the animals, and they do so much research there. And I learned, well, I was there recently, that some study that they did help them figure out that elephants are scared of bees and then they're going to try to like implement that knowledge and

like putting bee holders be like hives around crops because there's some places where elephants like step into the crops and that would inspire farmers to like hurt the elephants or like maybe kill the elephants so they put bees surrounding the property the elephants was just like not go over there interesting isn't that nice that's also unhidden that something so big is scared of something that is so small. I'm scared of bees. I like bees.

I'm glad they're here. I want to be around a bee. I guess you're right. I was stung once, and I truly acted like I was dying because I was an adult and I'd never been stung before. Yeah.

But I was in my pool and I got stung and I went, ah! Somebody bit me! I was like, oh! It was really thrashed. trigger around until my friend was like, let me see, where were you, where did somebody bite you?

And I was like, on the back. Someone made me on the back. It was like, you were stung and I'm just going to pull the stinger out. And I was like, okay. And then I was fine. Oh, good. I got stung by something in Japan as well. And it was like on my wrist, we were like walking through a grocery store. And I felt like a pinch. And I was like, oh. And then it like kept growing, like the little bumps are growing. And I was like, what is it? And then we like started going to different pharmacies. I just kept pointing at my wrist being like, ouch! And they were like, oh, we don't have that thing. Go over there. And then I was like trying for ointment. Ouch! Because like we were trying to translate on Google Translate. And they were like finding like bug repellent. And I was like, it already happened. And they're like, oh, we don't have anything for that. And then eventually it went down. And I was like, well, does that mean the poison just went into my system? I don't know. I think it's fine. It was days ago.

I hope you're okay. I hope I'm okay. What if you're patient zero? Oh, no. I brought it over. What is it? What if you did? I don't know what it is. I'm sure it's fine because they don't ask you questions like that. Like, were you bit by something? Yeah. I didn't have to take any vaccines.

No. They don't really ask you questions like that at all. No. Huh. Hmm. How does disease spread? Like that. Yeah.

From gun to the country. It feels like after COVID, we should be like, were you bit by anything? Yeah. Should I run the CDC? Should I get in charge? Right? That would be a smart thing to be like, oh, I was bit by. something and I don't know what it was. Oh, let's test you for something. Yeah, I would love a test

to be run. Interesting. I wonder why we don't, I guess maybe the percentage is so small. Maybe. But then COVID happened. It really did. That's my 9-11. I'll never forget. How can we? It rocked us. It really did. Should we do a game? Or maybe questions. Yeah, let's do questions. Should we do a game? You want to keep talking about COVID? No. No, I get that. It's a real downer. It is. Yeah. Okay, this is a question from Ninty, and it's called Vegas trip medical emergency. Okay.

I went to Vegas with my girl group, my sister, my best friend of 20 years, let's call her Monique, and my sister's best friend, Ariana. Let's cut to the chase. The last day we were there, Monique asked me to smoke her vape. I said, no, I have asthma, to which Monique responded, Do it for my birthday. and I decided to do the weed. Do the weed. That's funny. I took a huge drag of it, not knowing you weren't supposed to take much, and she said, okay, that's enough. I couldn't breathe.

It felt worse than any asthma attack I've ever had, and I have severe asthma. Monique kept repeating, you're okay. I wouldn't have told you to do it if you didn't have your inhaler on you. When my coughing died down to a few coughs per minute, I started sobbing. She began to rub my back, but I could feel her getting annoyed or irritated. I told her I think I need to go to the ER, so she found an ER and called an Uber, and we walked to the Uber. Ariana showed up and held me as we walked to the Uber. On the way there, I decided to call my mom just in case it was my last day.

My mom told me an ambulance would be safer to call in an Uber, so I canceled the Uber and asked Monique and Ariana to call the ambulance. Monique was outright irritated and said, you're doing too much, I ain't going to call an ambulance. Ariana and I sat on a bench, and she told me that I was having a bad trip and feeling like I was going to going to die, and that she had asthma too as a kid, so she knew that the vaping wouldn't hurt me. Monique also called my sister and told her what was happening, so my sister rushed to the scene. I felt like I was going to faint. Finally, my sister arrived and stated she would not call an ambulance as well. Oh, my God.

I told my sister that I didn't like that they didn't trust that I know what to do for my body, and I asked if an ambulance, or if I asked for an ambulance, it shouldn't be a debate. Ariana tried to comfort me and touch my arm, and I said, don't touch my arm. and I said, don't touch me. My sister understood what I was saying and decided to support me and call an ambulance. The EMTs determined my breathing was fine, and I was having a panic attack

and told me to go to my room and rest. Go to your room. When they came to my room, Monique decided to lay in my sister's bed. I told Monique she couldn't stay there, and Monique said, say less. Ariana stated she wouldn't be kicked out because she would just have to leave on her own,

And that meant that she was going to leave before saying anything mean. And then Monique left too. I was stating a boundary when I decided to tell them to leave. Now they're mad at me and talked about how I mistreated them to my sister. Does what happen in Vegas really stay in Vegas? Should I still be friends with Monique? Should I reach out to Ariana or wait for her to reach out? Wow.

That was a saga. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. I mean, Monique crossed a boundary. If someone doesn't want to hit your vape, don't make them hit your vape.

Yeah. Yeah. Don't peer pressure someone into doing drugs. Yeah, especially someone who says, do weed. Yeah, that person clearly doesn't need to do weed. They don't do weed. Yeah. I think maybe reaching out to both of them and being like, hey, can we get dinner or something?

and be like, hey, this is not a judgment on you as a person, but I really didn't love that you kind of pressured me into hitting your vape. And I'm not saying that like you caused what happened next, but it really caused me to have a panic attack. And I thought I was having an asthma attack. And I think if I just say no, it's not me trying to not have fun. It's just me being like, I don't think that's a good idea for me. But also I'm not mad.

And I just want to like move past this. I think that's great. Right? Yeah. Yeah. It's like saying I wish you would have respected my first boundary, which was me saying no. And yeah, even though she didn't have an asthma attack, maybe this was her first panic attack. Yes.

And that also needs like care and concern and time and patience. And it doesn't sound like her friends had the patience to do that. So, yeah. maybe vocalizing like I didn't really feel cared for in that moment and that does make me feel good especially because I thought I was in an emergency situation and nobody else did. Also I wonder if there was alcohol involved. Maybe it feels like a lot of people might have been like not sober. Yeah.

Not in their clear minds. And also like what's the worst about calling for an ambulance? Like, there's going to be a charge, but she could pay for it if it's, if she really wants it. If she wants an ambulance, if she wants one of them big, big cars to come with the sirens, woo-woo, then that's on her. Yeah. Don't say no. Yeah. But I like what you said.

Yeah. I think she can just be like, I'd like to move past this voice, how she feels, and then, like, give them space to say how they feel. I don't know. We don't know why they feel wronged, but they do for something. some reason. Yeah, maybe this isn't a one-time incident. Maybe this has happened before where our friend had a panic attack over something else. Yeah.

Or I really wonder why Monique was so insistent on her hitting the vape for her birthday. Yeah. There's more, you can ask other things. I think also some people, they also sound young, but I think it takes maturity to realize not everybody has to be high to have fun. I've been in plenty of spaces where I'm not high by everybody else is and I'm still having fun. Yeah.

And they are too. So it's like you don't have to all be on the same level for you to have a good time. And I've been in plenty of spaces where I'm high as a kite, nobody else is. Yeah. And it's my little secret. Exactly. Yeah. Solved.

Solved. Can you another? Yes. Does your hat say spaghetti? It does. I like that. Thank you. My girlfriend got it for me.

Oh. Oh, this one isn't a question, but it says peanuts. Nicole, I bought the big bag of peanuts at Costco, and you were right, X OXO. Validation. Kirkland brand crunchy peanuts are a superior peanut to all peanuts. Wow. They are so good. Yeah.

Just delightful for snacking. Yeah. It's a perfect portion size. Okay. I like them. But I also really love planters peanuts. The honey nut peanuts, something else. Sounds good.

And they make a version of the hot for you nuts. I don't think that's what the nuts are called. Nut. Hot for nut? Hot for nuts? I hope not. I don't know. But you know what I'm talking about?

The bags that are like, it's something for nut. Nut? I don't know. Oh, maybe it's nut for nut. I think I've seen net for nut. Yeah. Maybe not hot for nut. Well, they make, they make a planters makes a version of nut for nut and they only sell it

at Rite Aid. That's so funny. Isn't that wild? And the Rite aids are closing left and right. Oh, get them while you can. I don't know. Oh, the internet. Let's get another one.

Okay, amazing. This is called Adult Friendships from Ashley. I'm a little introverted and have a hard time initiating hangouts. with people I don't know very well. My partner and I really want to make friends that we can regularly hang out with and make real connections with. But making friends, especially couple friends,

can be challenging. Any tips on how to make meaningful friendships as adults and with other couples are there ways to not feel so jealous when I see my boyfriend just being included and not me? Should I try to initiate more hangouts with my colleagues? Thanks so much. Any advice is appreciated.

Love the podcast. That's tough. Yeah. Because I know how you meet people individually. Yeah, but as a couple. Where do couples go? I think sometimes you can, if you like one person, you can be like, can you invite your partner and I'll invite my partner and we can see if this is a good vibe. You can audition, couple hangs.

Yeah, I think it's rare to actually meet a couple at the same time and be like, you're now our couple friend. I think usually it is like, I like this one person. fully I like their partner too. Yeah. That sounds better than what I was, right off the bat, I was like, go to an onclusive resort because that's full of couples. Make a friend with a couple. Yeah.

And then those are your new friends. But onclusive resorts, you don't know where people are coming from. Yeah, they might never be from your town. They might be in a different state. Yeah. A different country even. A long distance friendship immediately? That's hard.

Yeah, that's too hard. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, I haven't heard of too many things that facilitate couples meeting other couples. Unless it's like a swing or swing or like a key party. Yeah. A bunch of freaks on a cruise with pineapples on their doors.

Did you know that's a thing? I do know that's a thing. Isn't that wild? Like why pineapple? I don't know. Because it's sweet. Or because it's horny? Yeah.

Oh! Yes! So sure, I think that's what it is. Right? Yeah. Could you call those things horns? I think so. Like, yeah, a little warning.

Wow. Wait, you a swinger? I may have worn a pineapple shirt in Japan. I did it. And nobody knew what it meant there. They're like cool shirt, I guess. But I think you're right. I think it's like, yeah, hang out with colleagues and then, you know, hopefully your

colleague will talk about their life and be like, oh, my partner. And then you can be like, oh, we should do like a double date. Yeah. Or maybe your boyfriend has a friend. and who has a partner that might be cool? Yeah, and I feel like they said that their partner is included in things and they're not. Yeah. So maybe ask your partner like, hey, if there are some events that I can come to,

would you mind asking, like, oh, can my partner come? And then you can just be included. Yeah. Or there's a thing that your boyfriend knows people are bringing their girlfriends to. Maybe, like, make sure to bring you along. And maybe you can facilitate talking to the girls and seeing like, oh, I click with this person. Maybe you didn't have a group hang. Yeah.

I think that's good. I know this isn't the case, but I saw on, I don't know, I think it was an Instagram post. It was this lady lamenting about how her boyfriend got an all expenses paid trip to Italy. And he was staying in a castle. And it was through work. And there was like butlers, maids, cooks. And they were going to be sightseeing and being on yachts and stuff. And he was like, oh, man, it's just a bummer that you can't.

come and then she found out through one of his friends that all of everyone else's girlfriends were coming and then she brought it up to him and he was like well I just have to babysit you the whole time or like you'd be in a room by yourself da da da da and then and then when he got there she was like but then it made me feel better when he got there he was like oh I made a mistake babe wish you were here and then she was like should I forgive him for this and all the comments were like no bitch he don't want you there I'm not saying the same thing but why doesn't the invite this friend out yeah maybe it's maybe it's just short-sighted that's what I think yeah I don't know guys yeah have that much thought as to like oh my girlfriend would love this hang because he's like

oh I'm going to hang out my boys but like maybe isn't asking are you guys bringing your girlfriend yeah because then if he knew that maybe he would bring his girlfriend but if he's thinking I'm going to hang out with my friends he's not necessarily thinking I should bring my girl yeah and then Maybe the girls, like the guys who bring their girlfriends, like that's an established group. So he doesn't even clock that there's like women there because he's like, those are my friends. Yeah. So yeah. Ask your boyfriend to be like, oh, when you hang out with your friends, ask if you could bring your girlfriend.

Yeah. Solved. All right. I think that should that be it? Should we wrap it up? Or should we do another one. We could do one more. Yeah.

Let's do one most. One more. Okay. This is called former roommate question. I have a sticky situation with a former roommate of mine that I'd love to get your opinion on. To make a long story short, we had a bad fight about finances and our living situation, ending in no contact with her and the breakdown of other friendships as a result, even though those people were not involved.

We tried to talk about it with her, but nothing was ever resolved, and I'm okay with that aspect of it. The problem is how to deal with her in the future. We all attend a relatively large college here in the U.S., however, you always end up running into people you have beef with. We will probably end up running into her at some point on campus or in our hometown, and I'm not sure how to handle that. So my question is, how do you handle a run-in with someone you're on bad terms with?

My first guess would be to simply ignore the situation or avoid, but it sucks feeling like I have to be on my toes all the time waiting for her to appear in front of me. Anyway, I don't think the relationship can be repaired as some harsh words were said and fault can be put on both sides. I'd love to hear your opinion, and thank you for making such an entertainment. podcast. Lots of love. Beat her up on site. When you see her, be like, bitch, remember what you said to me?

No, I think you should just go, oh, hey, how are you? Yeah. And leave it at that. Yeah, keep it cordial. Yeah. Like, don't be weird. Just like, oh, hi, great to see you. Yeah.

I hope you're well. And then I'm going to be on my way. Yeah. I think I've seen people who, like, I don't know, we don't talk as much as we used to or something weird happened. But like, unless they're trying to talk about it, there's no need for me to bring up so you just be like it oh hey you know keep it simple keep moving yeah yeah it doesn't have to be weird or awkward and also like you might not see them yeah you might never ever see them again

and you know that would be you know best case i have a one-sided fight with somebody meaning they don't know we're in a fight um and every time i see her i'm like oh hi how are it's nice to see you and it's not nice to see her um but i just like i keep it you know casual and nice yeah yeah so solved well that's it that's it another one right in that can yes can her up put her in the supermarket get you a nice can of best friends get you a can of best friends where's the best friends where is it which aisle uh if you were food what would you be hmm maybe maybe an orange because they're sweet but they have a bit of a tough exterior

that you have to go past to get to the juicy goodness in the middle that was really thoughtful I was going to say eggplant because I might go on a trip before I get cooked so I might put me in their butt so we have a phone number that you can call if you have a question or a query

three two three Three, two, three, two, three, two, three, eight, six, five, five, four. And we have an email that you can email questions to. It's Nicole and Sashir at gmail.com. And I didn't say cucumber because they're green, but my favorite color is what? Purple. And eggplants are purple. And it's challenging if I go on a trip.

I didn't know people were going on trips with eggplants. Eggplants. Anything cylindrical. Squash. A squash? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, if it's like long.

But they're also wide. Yeah, that's why I'm saying it's a challenge. All right, bye. Best Friends is a production of HeadGum Studios. Our producer is Ali Khan. Our executive producer is Anya Khan of Skya. The show is edited, mix, and engineered by the great KC Donahue. That was a HeadGum podcast.