Best Friends with Nicole Byer and Sasheer Zamata - Sasheer Still Has Her Tap Shoes

Episode Date: June 21, 2023

Good Afternoon. Here we are! Back with another episode of Best Friends. Nicole does a trampoline workout and boy does it stain her calves. Sasheer is looking forward to Janelle Ginestra’s dance work...out and it's all about that turkey twerking. Nicole took ballet and tap dance as a child. Sasheer took tap dance too and she still has her tap shoes. Sasheer concludes that a muffin is a naked cupcake. Nicole burnt a pizza the other day and Sasheer shares the time she accidentally burnt ramen noodles. They answer a listener's question about boundaries when dating your best friend's twin brother. Plus, a listener’s theory behind the reason for a woman having an orgasm in the L.A. Philharmonic orgasm begs the question: would we do that?   Janelle Ginestra and Willdabeast Adams Photo: https://premierbridewisconsin.com/tag/janelle-ginestra/ Email or call Nicole & Sasheer with your friendship questions and  “Is this weird” suggestion at:424-645-7003nicoleandsasheer@gmail.com Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link https://siriusxm.com/friends and code FRIENDS.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wow. Good afternoon, Sasheer. Wow. Look at this. Look at you. Look at you, my friend. Look at my friend. Here. On another day. On another day, another sleigh. Is this a new chair? Oh, I guess you haven't seen this.
Starting point is 00:00:34 It is a new chair. It is striped. Oh, I like. Good height. Thank you. Because you can put your elbow on it. Yeah. And there's room for me and Clyde.
Starting point is 00:00:48 That's nice. Yes, please. Move the computer down. There he is. Just snuggled up. Nice. That's nice. Have I talked to you about my trampoline?
Starting point is 00:01:02 No. Are you kidding? I bought a trampoline. You already have my trampoline? No. Are you kidding? A trampoline? You already have a trampoline. Yes. It is a small indoor tramp. Oh, okay. Not like a big outdoor one.
Starting point is 00:01:12 No, I don't have room anywhere for that. But I tried to do a trampoline fitness just for 30 minutes. Mm-hmm. It is wild on your calves. Oh, interesting. My God. it is wild on your calves oh interesting my god that lady she didn't warn me she wasn't like okay your calves are gonna hurt for three minutes i was able to do this and then i got right off and then i rolled it away and i said i to get rid of this trampoline. Did you stretch beforehand? Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:50 And after? Well, no, I was so upset I had to sit down. And what do you, you just jump up and down or is there like a routine that you're doing? It's, so she's like, all right, bend your legs. Now move them, fast feet. It's a lady who's telling me what to do. But I just really didn't anticipate the strain on your calves. How long is the workout supposed to be?
Starting point is 00:02:16 A half hour. Oh. Jumping up and down? Yes. That seems like it would hurt. Yes. Jumping up and down? Yes. That seems like it would hurt. Yes, jumping up and down. And then like, you know, those like squats where you get low and then you like jump. You're supposed to do that on the trampoline.
Starting point is 00:02:31 And I launched too high and got scared. That is scary. Because what if you land in a way that like flips you off the trampoline? Oh, my God. I got to get rid of this thing. It's a hazard it's gonna kill me you know i did a um a dance workout like at home thing uh with some online video subscription and i was like it was fun but it reminded me of that lady who like her TikToks were all over the place for a minute because she was like doing hip hop dancing.
Starting point is 00:03:13 But like she would have funny words, like and move that chicken wing or something like that. I don't know. I don't know why people were laughing at it. I thought it was awesome because I was like, she looks fun. I think it was because she was a white lady and she was doing hip-hop dancing oh yes yes yes and people were like this is crazy but also i was like i would do this this looks super fun but i don't know what to look for i don't know i don't know how to find her white lady hip-hop White lady hip hop. TikTok lady workout hip hop. Yeah, I think that might work. Who was the white lady?
Starting point is 00:03:53 Yeah, Google that. Who was the white lady who danced hip hop on TikTok that people were talking about? Google's going to be like, ma'am. Too many words. Ma'am. you too many words ma'am white hip girl workout uh it's not that lady no funny though yeah the like from the video from the 80s who's she's a choreographer so maybe white lady choreographer hip-hop tiktok it's not the ones where it's them on the stepper right no no she'll like be swinging her hips and she's like all right
Starting point is 00:04:34 uh yeah like get your booty low and move your chicken wings yeah um yeah i really feel like chicken wings was in in one of them In the zeitgeist of her dance. There is a lot of videos on white lady hip hop TikTok. Maybe white lady choreographer hip hop workout. I can't really do dance workouts because I don't have any rhythm and then I'll get frustrated. Oh, yeah, we don't want that. Mm-mm. Are you looking it up, too, Sasheer?
Starting point is 00:05:09 I am. We're all looking it up. We're all on the case. And this is what people come here for. Dead silence as we Google. Let's see. I'll Google, too. Hip hop. Group workout is what i'm gonna look up group
Starting point is 00:05:30 because she's got two people behind her so that makes a group that is a group or is it a few no no group is good yeah this is tough i really thought this would be easier to find yeah i don't know this is what does she say specifically in the video i thought she said something about chicken wing and i don't know if that's right okay i'm gonna search chicken wing how about that chicken wing that's very funny i hope you find it by chicken wing hmm this is tough founder janelle gin Australia how you spell gin Australia janelle genus oh you know i closed the phone right up after i saw yeah yeah it's like so janelle j-a-n-e-l-l-e and then her last name g-i-n-e-s-t-r-a this is her right i think so and her spouse is wildebeest adams oh i gotta know who that is i actually think i know no i may not know him personally but i've seen his videos sometimes i think i know wildebeest i think i know wildebeest sometimes i go through phases
Starting point is 00:06:56 where i just watch a lot of dance videos and they're you know there's a whole community of them very funny is this her did i get it right i uh i think so i think if you put janelle janice strelda workout you might get her like tiktok workout yes this is her hell oh my god there's a video of her i guess she did say something about chickens no no wait this is her turkey there's like a video of her dancing and then there's a turkey like twerking in the video but i guess it was a thanksgiving sale that's pretty funny yay okay great i'll do her videos yay i'm glad we got to the bottom of that thank god thank you so much for your help thank you everybody welcome you're welcome we all got on the case wait i have got to see who wildebeest is and wildebeest is also a choreographer i think so yeah what a
Starting point is 00:08:00 funny name to choose for yourself you know know, I thought Wildebeest would be bigger. Your name is Wildebeest? Wow. They're a fun looking couple. I love how dancers really look like dancers. They do look fun. Oh, yeah. Like, these are the most dancerific pictures I've ever seen of people.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Yeah. She's, like, straddling his waist, and, like, they're using gravity to stay, to, like, to balance on each other. God, how fun. That's fun. Oh, they look like they really love each other. Just in love, dancing.
Starting point is 00:08:40 That's nice. Oh, that's what I want. I want to fall in love with a dancer and then become a dancer a dancer sounds exhausting it does this is sheer did you dance as a child not like no i think i like taking some dance classes but i wasn't really in like a i didn't do anything where i advanced it's not like i like took multiple like ballet classes or jazz classes maybe took like one class and then moved on oh i took several ballet classes um i wish i could remember the name i think it was like the kathy lee no that's a gifford i think
Starting point is 00:09:32 that's a lady the house katherine kathy something uh ballet academy um and they used to like push you down into the splits which was bad for some girls fine for me because i was pretty flexible and then i took a jazz class and then i took tap and i really tried to keep up with tap because i loved how much noise it made um but like that wasn't for me so then i got into gymnastics i did gymnastics too and i actually i did tap when i was older i did tap uh i guess i was in college and i liked it a lot and i still have tap shoes that's fun maybe i'll get some tap shoes let's tap dance let's tap dance um we have a mutual friend who had a tap recital that i went to and it was maybe the best
Starting point is 00:10:27 thing I've ever seen in my whole life. Why? Because it was people of all levels. And the teacher was in every number. And it was truly just magical and perfect. I cannot really explain more than that. It was just delightful. And the crowd was, they were so hyped to see their friends tap dance. It was just so supportive and wonderful. That's really cute. I love when people are supportive. It is nice.
Starting point is 00:10:59 It's very nice. Oh my God, I'm going to get tap shoes. I haven't tapped in forever. I haven't either. I think I still I'm going to get tap shoes. I haven't tapped in forever. I haven't either. I think I still remember how to do a time step. Ooh, time steps were tough for me. Yeah. But I can shuffle off a buffalo.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Oh. Shuffle off a buffalo. After dance class, we would go to this place called my favorite muffin and they had this chocolate cheesecake muffin which was oh it was so good it sounds very good and also sounds like a cupcake um it was a muffin okay it was from a place called my favorite muffin okay but you know those are cake flavors that you listed so i see i see where you're coming from and yeah i guess cupcakes do even come in i was about to be like it was a muffin it was in one of those muffin wrappers but cupcakes come in those wrappers about to be like, it was a muffin. It was in one of those muffin wrappers. But cupcakes come in those wrappers.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Yeah. What is a muffin if not a icingless cupcake? Oh, my God. A muffin is a naked cupcake. How embarrassing. I'm sure there's a difference. I have no idea what it is. Embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Okay. My favorite muffin. Ooh. They got cinnamon. Cinnamon crumb cake is the muffin of the month their crumb cake is the muffin of the month this is a this is a bakery that makes cakes and they call them muffins okay they have banana nut blueberry blueberry cheesecake boston cream pie cherry cheesecake chocolate cheesecake they still got it oh my god they're so good i wonder if my favorite muffin will send me muffins probably where are they located jersey i think shrewsbury new jersey let's see those locations uh i don't think there's one here in California I think you gotta put in New Jersey well
Starting point is 00:13:06 there's a whole thing they probably have more than just Jersey if they have a whole map situation it's worth a try alright let's see is there a My Favorite Muffin here there's a location there are zero locations
Starting point is 00:13:22 near Los Angeles California that map was deceiving location where there are zero locations near oh los angeles california i think that's just that map was deceiving someone lives here and we don't have a location uh okay let's see their jersey locations do they not have any in jersey either what the heck why don't they just tell us where they're located why don't they just have a list of where they're located it seems much easier it does seem easier than like trying to figure this out my favorite muffin oh there we go locations oh no locations nearest to you why don't they have a list? How upsetting.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Can we, like, zoom out and just see all of America? Would it just show us? Ooh. No, no, no. They said absolutely not. We will not show you anything. My favorite muffin. What's going on? Where are you? Where's my favorite muffin?
Starting point is 00:14:23 Where is it? We're zooming out, and there is no my favorite. What? We're in the United Kingdom. Also, they started. Why does the map start in the United Kingdom? That was really funny. What a twist. What a huge twist.
Starting point is 00:14:44 What a plot twist. What a plot twist. Oh, my God. Just zooming out and being like, oh, that's why I don't recognize anything. We're not in America. Wow. Okay, put in this zip code 07739. Oh, okay, so not there either. Maybe this is broken.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Maybe. My favorite muffin, what did you figure at your website? Yeah, can you figure it out? Maybe they're not in business anymore. Maybe they're just an online thing?
Starting point is 00:15:12 Maybe. Is there a way, is there a buying purchase power? Is there a purchase power? You can order online. Okay. At participating locations,
Starting point is 00:15:23 but they won't tell us what the locations are the location where the locations coffee the cinnamon swirl they are really pushing cinnamon in the summer me that's what's leading me to believe that maybe this is a defunct company cinnamon's not a summer treat it's not but they're still paying for a website oh you're right interesting we figured it out they got them in colorado in yeah oh okay a lot in colorado oregon again texas wow they have three in corpus christi that's where selena's from nevada ohio virginia And that is it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Wow. I guess the one I went to as a child is gone. I'm so sorry. It's okay. We all have to mourn some things. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Have you been to Levon Bakery? No. They have really good cookies. What kind of cookies? They have chocolate chip cookies. They have uh i almost just said black cookies but i just mean like a chocolate chocolate chip double chocolate chip yes and they have chocolate chip walnut chocolate peanut butter and they also sell them in the grocery store in the frozen section and they say do not microwave these and i bought them and guess what i microwaved them and they were not good
Starting point is 00:16:49 where are you supposed to put them in the oven yes you are they're like it's specific they're like please do not microwave these and i said you don't know what you're talking about and turns out they do it's like the movie so like like please don't microwave them like like microwave them at your own risk but they won't be good but it sounds like something awful is gonna happen if you microwave them like please for everyone's safety they weren't good they were really bad like i was like oh yuck and i told a friend that i microwave them they're like did you read the directions i was like oh yuck and i told a friend that i microwaved them like did you read the directions i was like no i chose the own my own time that i microwaved them for and they were very bad i also have never seen microwavable cookies have you like the fact that you thought that was an option i've never ever seen
Starting point is 00:17:47 anyone try or or succeed in microwaving cookies i've only seen them in the oven touche friend i think you're right i have also never seen a single human being microwave a cookie well i came in the frozen section so i was like clearly this can be microwaved what can't you microwave everything in the frozen oh i guess i wouldn't put a pizza in the microwave no i think most things i wouldn't put in my interesting listen life is a learning curve and we're all here to learn yeah well I'm glad you learned that lesson
Starting point is 00:18:32 thank you me too it was wild I burnt a pizza the other day I'm sorry because I again didn't follow the directions it said to cook it they were like either put it on the grill. And I was like, a grill?
Starting point is 00:18:47 Okay. Or put it in the oven for, I think it was like five to ten minutes. So I put it in for 20. I said five to ten, so I said 20. I was like, I want it a little crispy. And then my smoke alarm went off, and I opened the oven, and it was fully on fire. I'm having a great time. I living i'm live laugh loving one time uh i was making ramen in my apartment in new york and i came home drunk started but like
Starting point is 00:19:20 put the put the noodles in the water fell asleep And then my roommate walked in and was like, what'd you do tonight? And I was like, Oh, you know, I went out, came home, made some,
Starting point is 00:19:33 and I ran to the kitchen and it was like, smoke was everywhere. I also don't know how my roommate didn't notice the smoke when she walked in. She just like knocked on my door. I was like, Hey girl, what, what'd you get into tonight? door i was like hey girl what what'd you get into tonight i was like oh hey and then uh the pot was like black on the bottom the noodles
Starting point is 00:19:54 were like burnt to a crisp oh no yeah i think i should came home i think i guess i don't know what the worst case scenario would have been i think the pod just would have just been destroyed but also maybe something else could have happened uh i think maybe that's the worst case but also maybe your apartment might have burned down it was also a really rickety building so probably boy oh boy i would be highly embarrassed if we were all outside and they were like, cause you needed noodles. I was like, I was hungry. We're all out here because you,
Starting point is 00:20:28 you needed noodles. Yeah. I'm so sorry. Oh, my old roommate used to leave the oven on all the time. We would come home. Cause we, it was like,
Starting point is 00:20:42 I don't know, four or five of us that lived in this like three or four bedroom and we would like go to dinner and come home and be like god it's hot in here and then we'd be like the oven's fucking on and then she'd be like sorry or she wouldn't be there scary it is scary and now i'm like uh, what's your majiggy? What's it called? Cautious? Uh, I guess.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Before bed, I kind of have to touch the knobs to make sure everything is off. Mm-hmm. Because I'm scared. I'm scared. What if I leave the oven on all night? Yeah. I want to cook in the air. You don't want to cook air.
Starting point is 00:21:23 No, I just want to cook things. Yeah. I guess I've had experiences where I just want to cook things. Yeah. I guess I've had experiences where I've locked myself out of my house. So maybe this is why I do it, but I consistently check doorknobs and check if it's locked, check my keys. I'd check more than usual. But I think also because I've locked myself out of my house and I didn't like it. locked myself in my house and I didn't like it. So I got to say,
Starting point is 00:21:50 locking yourself out of your own home is so like, not embarrassing, but it's just like, well, fuck, how do I get in here? It's, it makes me angry.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And it's like, I own this thing. I should be able to get in. I lost a piece of metal and I can't get back in. That sucks. That is funny. I lost a piece of metal and I can't get back in. That sucks. That is funny. I lost this little thing that's like almost the size of a coin and I can't get in. That's it.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Keys should be bigger. Yes. Or, I don't know, use my thumbprint. I can't just. Why do I have to carry anything? I'm sure you could do that now yeah probably in in 2023 in the year of our lord just thumbprint yourself inside or like scan your face that seems expensive but i'm sure it is possible yes gotta pay for convenience i once went home with a friend we were very very drunk
Starting point is 00:22:47 her roommate was sleeping on the couch and we could see her and my friend didn't have her keys and we were banging on the window and her roommate just wouldn't wake up so she or i climbed through the window and scared her awake. Oh, we laughed and laughed. Oh, youth. Also, like, scary that it's that easy to get into your that, or get into that apartment. I mean, it took us
Starting point is 00:23:16 a while, but we figured out how to open the window from the outside. Damn. It's funny the things you'll do in your, like, early to mid to late 20s that you wouldn't do now if i was locked out of a house now i'm not climbing through a window i'm gonna phone a friend and say can i come over yeah i'm gonna call a locksmith oh yeah that too a 24-hour locksmith that never occurred to me i was just gonna go to a friend friends i got uh my locks changed because your key and my key don't work for
Starting point is 00:23:49 my house anymore and uh he replaced the the deadbolt and he was like oh also i'm gonna like do an upgrade on this lock because i also i guess the lock just like needed oil and you're supposed to oil your locks like every six months or something and i was like how would i have known this it was he like said it like as if it like as a known like you know when you get your oil changed for your car you gotta like oil up your lock and i was like i've literally never heard of that never seen anyone do that and the person who installed this first lock didn't tell me that and and i guess it was like the rain or i don't know what like made it like funky inside of the lock so he replaced it and then there was no plate on the side where the lock goes into on the doorframe and he was like kind of like
Starting point is 00:24:48 shitting on the person who installed it and i was like i called the same company like the person who installed this lock is from your company god that's really funny i was like i don't know talk to each other you need to train your people also how are you oiling a lock a lock is so small what like a syringe of oil um he told me what it was i don't know what it is but there's like i think like a thing that you can spray in there like a long oh wild wild doors. Doors are crazy. Doors are crazy. So, Shira, I went to the Pasadena Architectural Salvage Store.
Starting point is 00:25:47 And it's people who are like redoing their homes and like don't like old shit. So they just like, I guess, sell it to them or donate it to them. I don't really know. But they had rows and rows of doors. Whoa. Big ones. That's pretty cool. Small ones.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Stained glass ones. French ones, stained glass ones, French ones, ornate ones, ones that needed to be refinished. Wow. I touched almost all of the doors. I had a fabulous time.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Did you get a door? I took measurements to maybe get a door. That's fun. Just a glass door. Oh, that'd be so nice. Right? Oh, I love a door. We love a door.
Starting point is 00:26:37 I really do. Doors are fun. You never know what's on the other side. Do we have anything else other than doors? Everything you want. K want knobs for the doors oh knobs like uh stained glass windows um medicine cabinets uh toilets sinks oh wow i'm go there. It was really fun. And you better believe I bought myself a toilet. You bought a toilet? In Ming Green.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Mmm. That sounds cute. Fabulous. And this is a toilet that someone else has had in their home? Or someone bought it and didn't use it? No, people have shitted on it or in it through the years. Probably on it. I hope not.
Starting point is 00:27:33 But yeah, it's a used toilet. Do you not like that? Do you have a problem with used toilets? I do not have a problem with used toilets. I do have a friend who really has a problem with used toilets. And he's like, every home I've moved into, I replace the toilet. And I was like, that seems excessive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Wait, is this friend bringing their own toilet or just purchasing a new toilet each time? Ooh, that's a really good question. I don't know if they're bringing their toilet from home to home or if they're getting it. I'm guessing they get a new toilet each time, but I also don't know. I'll ask. Wild. How much is a new toilet? I, in my mind, don't think it's that expensive, but I probably would be surprised at how much they cost a couple hundred i have no idea yeah i guess it's not that much 500 max i don't know yeah toilets were like i guess you want a super fancy toilet a thousand dollars this gold one seven hundred dollars oh a gold toilet yikes oh my god A wooden throne toilet?
Starting point is 00:28:46 For $4,000. It's from beautifultoilets.com. We got to hit up beautifultoilets.com. Some of these are shaped like eggs. Yeah. Oh, you can get one for like $100. Toilets are not that expensive. A royal gold toilet for $2,000?
Starting point is 00:29:03 Yeah. Yeah, I think a normal toilet's like a couple hundred bucks. Did I tell you about a restaurant that I went to that had big bones and meat? Yes. Did I tell you about the toilet situation there? No.
Starting point is 00:29:21 They had a toilet where you walk in and it greets you. The lid is like, hello. and then the seat was heated and then there was all sorts of accoutrements like you could i guess uh there was like a i think it said fragrance so i think it was like if you are shitting you get hit fragrance and a fragrance would appear and then there was a bidet and you could choose the temperature and it was wall mounted and i spent a lot of time in there i had a great time that's at a restaurant this is at a restaurant i believe it's david chang's restaurant oh nice is that he's Momofuku, I think? Yes. Is it like a one-person room or like stalls? Three, three toilet rooms.
Starting point is 00:30:14 I guess you call them stalls, but they weren't stalls. I couldn't see anything from underneath. Nor above. There was a wall. Oh, okay. And a door that went from floor to ceiling. I just feel like that would make people stay in there longer because they're just enjoying themselves i did but this is a great time don't you want people to get in and out of the bathroom i guess but then i guess you're paying that much
Starting point is 00:30:39 money yeah you want a full experience in and out yeah oh god it was nice we have to go and maybe they'll have the bones and meat and you can get on the toilet i can't wait i can't wait to get on this toilet that's a date should we do a quiz or something? I want to answer questions. Okay, let's answer questions. Hi there, Nicole, Shashir, Kimmy, and Jordan. I hope you guys are having a good day. So I'm going to try and make this as quick as possible. But my best friend.
Starting point is 00:31:24 We've been friends for I think five or six years now um love at her death she's been pretty solid in my life for that amount of time um her brother so her brother um has been I don't want to sound conceited but her brother has been in love with me since like middle school I didn't find him attractive or interested really till like the end of high school and then a couple years after that, we started dating about three years ago. I asked for her permission. That's her best, I mean, that's my best friend. So I just want to make sure it was cool with her. She said it was cool. Unfortunately, we are that couple that broken up, got back together, broken up, got
Starting point is 00:31:57 back together. And this is like our second time like doing this again. Not my doing though, all his doing. But this time around, it's a little bit different. Our very last breakup was pretty messy. My best friend did have to get in the middle of it, which not what I prefer, of course, but it did happen. My issue is that so when the first time we broke up, my best friend had set the boundary. I don't want to be in the middle. Please don't talk to me about him. And I understood that.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Like, I get it. It's difficult because that is my best friend. And, like, I'm sure Nicole and I'm sure you two, Sashir and then Kim and Jordanordan like you you go to your best friends like to talk about like your relationships um so i kind of had to like refrain from that because i'm trying to respect your boundary um but at some points like that that boundary kind of faded and she would actively talk to me about her brother um and she would join in on I don't want to say me talking shit but when we break up like that I was talking shit um and she would join in on that and it just really seemed like that boundary was not there anymore so I was
Starting point is 00:33:16 like okay like is she fine with this now because she never reinforced it um but um so this last time let's uh breaking up it was it was pretty bad and i really didn't think we were getting back together but i just i just i love this man and i can't give him up very easily even though i really should after all the shit he's done um and yeah and I just that that's a whole bucket of worms I'm trying to work out in therapy but but here we are okay these past few times I went over to her house um I've just felt very unwanted I can tell she's annoyed but I just don't know why. So after yesterday, I had asked her, I said, are we good? Like, it seems like you're just annoyed with me every time I come over.
Starting point is 00:34:10 And she let me know that I just don't know how I feel about you getting back with my brother. I really don't want to be put in the middle of this anymore. And I would rather hang out with you guys separately. I don't want to hang out with you guys together. This family is very, very tight knit, like very tight knit. And me, my boyfriend, which is the brother, mind you, they're twins. Okay. friend, which is the brother, mind you, they're twins, okay? I don't know if that matters, but context. So, we would all just go over to my best friend's house, because she lives with her sister, and that's, like, the hangout spot, and now she's telling me that I can't do that anymore, because she doesn't want to hang out with us together. And that's just very sad. Yeah, it's just very upsetting.
Starting point is 00:35:12 And now coming over for, like, family events and things like that, I just don't feel comfortable anymore because I don't feel wanted. And I also know now she really doesn't want us to be together. And also my family doesn't enjoy him particularly. But again, that's a whole other can of worms. It just feels like everyone is against us being together. And it's very sad. But also I've kind of put myself in this position because I'm very much an oversharer. I get a lot of support from my family, from my mom, from my
Starting point is 00:35:46 sister. But of course, they hear someone who messes with their sister and now it's like, fuck him. But totally understandable. I don't fault anybody for feeling that way. But it's just really hard. And I'm not upset at my best friend for setting those boundaries. But now it's just made me very uncomfortable because I feel like I'm not wanted at family events. And she said, I'm not saying I don't want to hang out with you. Of course, I want you to come to family events. It's going to be hard for me to see you there and be around you guys together. And just by her saying that, I'm like, okay, so then I'm just really not going to come around because why am I going to make myself uncomfortable um I just want your guys opinion I just need to
Starting point is 00:36:30 vent and talk to somebody because can't talk to my best friend about it um so yeah so just kind of what you guys think um any input is greatly appreciated thanks guys have a good day. That's tough. And I hate to say this, but I do think it's a cause and effect where this best friend had put up a boundary and said, I don't want to get into the relationship that you have with my brother. And then you broke up and then the boundary was broken. And I'm not saying it was our caller's fault
Starting point is 00:37:07 or the best friend's fault, but somehow that boundary was broken and the effect of that boundary broken is, oh, I have to put up an even stronger boundary so I don't get caught in the middle again. Mm-hmm. And it is tough because my advice is get a DeLorean,
Starting point is 00:37:24 go back in time and don't talk to her about it. And that's hard. That's pretty tough. Yeah, there's very few in the world and they do have a concept one, but that's not available to the public. And who knows if that time travels? um yeah because it seems like maybe the friend slash sister ended up get like doing the thing she was trying to avoid which is get in the middle of her brother and her best friend and yeah so i understand her her perspective being like not again like i did this once.
Starting point is 00:38:05 It didn't feel good. This is exactly what I didn't want. Please don't. I don't even want to hang out with you two together. It's also possible your best friend is against you and her brother being together because you guys were not good together. I don't want to label anyone as toxic. We don't know what the situations were. But if his own family doesn't like him,
Starting point is 00:38:33 that's a red flag. You know, people, especially men, people love their baby boys. People love the people in their family. If they're like, I don't know, and then they see how tumultuous your relationship is, they may not be saying,
Starting point is 00:38:50 we don't want you together because they don't want you to be a part of the family. They may not think he is good for you or you guys aren't good together. And so your friend also... I thought she said her family doesn't like him. She said that his family doesn't like him? His own family doesn't like him. Isn't that what she doesn't like him. His own family doesn't like him.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Isn't that what she said? Am I wrong? Did I mishear that? Any Judith or Jordan or Kimmy? From what I remember, she said that her family isn't into him like that, but also her best friend, when she would vent to her,
Starting point is 00:39:18 was talking shit about her own brother in their relationship. Oh, okay. I thought she was saying his own family doesn't like him and i was like what are we doing yeah get rid of him throw him red flags all over the place yeah i think it's her family doesn't like him and then his family feels funky about her coming over because they had such a bad breakup, but now they're back together. Yeah, it's like a us against the world type deal.
Starting point is 00:39:50 But also, Friend seems sick of this man. Friend, who called in, was like, we've broken up. It's his fault. He's done things. He's, so, maybe this relationship that you're fighting so much for isn't in the cards.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Yeah. Or at least take some space to think about it because it doesn't, the coming back together doesn't seem to give you enough time to process maybe what has been happening. Because, yeah, your friend probably doesn't want to be in the middle of it again but she also might just be like i don't think this is good and healthy and i just really don't want to see it because that would be the case even if that wasn't her brother even if you had just been on and off with somebody that she didn't think that you should be with she would be like probably be like i don't really want to see this or be privy to it because it hurts it hurts to see your friend make like the same mistake over and over again and you were there for it and she had to get intervene
Starting point is 00:40:50 with her own brother and then for you to go back to him again i think she's kind of like okay like i don't even want to my hands up in the air i don't want to be part of this yeah also is there's no other friends we can vent to i yeah it doesn't have to be this friend personally if i was dating your brother i would not come to you about my issues with your brother because that is you have a different relationship with your brother then you do you know do you know yeah it's like you all have your relationship i have my relationship i don't really find it helpful to be like he did so what are you gonna do go to him and be like you did that like do you know it's like it's a
Starting point is 00:41:37 bit close yeah um i would vent to a different friend maybe maybe a therapist. But yeah, I hate to say that I'm on the side of the sister and drawing a boundary because that is her brother. That's blood. That's especially if they're close. I don't want to hear someone talk shit about someone I'm close to. people do behave differently in romantic relationships than any other relationship in their life so i don't think i would want to know my brother's like i don't know i don't know his fights i don't i don't want to know the ins and outs of like the person he's with because it's yeah it's a different relationship and it's weird yeah please don't date my brother uh how do i say this it's already begun what do you remember the last time he was here yeah well we decided to start a relationship that was long distance and just not tell you i've actually been flying him out every other weekend since you've been gone. Oh, my God. And the reason why your key doesn't work is because it's filled with my secretions. Ew.
Starting point is 00:42:53 You guys are hooking up on my door? What has happened? Right on your door. Ew, no. We're vertical every time we hook up. Oh, no. See? That was terrible.
Starting point is 00:43:05 No sister wants to hear that. No. Oh, no. See, that was terrible. No sister wants to hear that. No. Oh, God. It was terrible. Yes. Yeah. I wouldn't want to hear about you, like, dating my sister. That would be terrible.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Yeah, and that's why I'm not going to tell you about it. No. Terrible. Yeah, and that's why I'm not going to tell you about it. No! Okay, I think that was helpful. I hope. I hope so, too. I also, I felt a little like, I'm like, hey, caller, like wagging my finger at the caller a little bit. But I do understand not being able to talk to the person you want to talk to about something. But I think you have to respect those boundaries.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Yeah. I think there's time for another one. Yeah. Oh, Jordan's going to go to two emails. So go for it, Jordan. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:59 So this is a callback to a past episode about something that happened at the symphony or the orchestra. Oh, yes. Okay. Hi, ladies.
Starting point is 00:44:13 So I have a theory in the orgasm at the symphony. I really think this couple had one of those remote control vibrators. My ex and I had one called a Wee Vibe. And it fits in your underwear with a magnet. And then your partner can control it with a remote. It's very fun and can be a fun way to spice up an otherwise boring outing. Wow. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:37 That's possible. It is possible. I do know that some people get a feel like they get a full body experience from hearing music or even like touching things I want to believe that this lady was a full sensory person that's what I want to believe I want to believe that a note was hit
Starting point is 00:44:56 and she was like oh no that's what I want to believe this feels too good oh no like i want her in her own house being like her partner comes home and is like are you listening to orchestras again and she's like sorry i wasted it on the music music that's yeah that's what i choose to believe yeah can we have another one yes and this is another year oh sorry real quick i have a question okay i know i asked for another and then immediately started talking i want to know if any of you guys would wear a wee vibe that's controlled by your partner at a public outing. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Ooh. Oh. That was a real heat mess. Yes. I mean, like, why not? It's just like, like, wasn't there a time that people were putting those, whatever those balls were in their vaginas to help with their, like, Kegel? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Kegel balls. Yeah. Yeah, but those don't give you orgasms no that's just strengthening your pelvic floor yeah this is true this is true but as far as i know i believe there are some that vibrate oh i'm with jordan yeah i'd do it it seems like fun kimmy she's shaking that head. You know what? I have a hard time focusing normally.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I can't even imagine trying to like, I don't know, too serial. And then you're suddenly having an orgasm. So Matt, Matt, respect to anyone who's into that. For me, I think,
Starting point is 00:46:40 I think it's a, it's a no bueno. Actually, this is a full lie. Kimmy's wearing one right now. I think it's a no bueno. Actually, this is a full lie. Kimmy's wearing one right now.
Starting point is 00:46:50 You have been moving silently. I'm sorry, Kimmy. Damn, they're on to me. Yeah, I think I would be so embarrassed if I moaned or screamed. Yeah, I don't think I could be silent silent i guess it'd be like a fun thing between you and your partner like he he he like let's see if i can be quiet but like i think i'd get angry if i actually got loud and be like you did this to me that's funny what would be the best and the worst outing like clearly being at a like have an orgasm right when the music stops at a symphony it's not the best and the worst outing? Like, clearly, being at a, like, have an orgasm right when the music stops at a symphony is not the best time.
Starting point is 00:47:27 But, like, what if your partner was like, we're going to go on a roller coaster and you're going to wear this? And you're like, I feel like that's a lot of things at once. That's a lot. I might have a heart attack. That might be, yeah, you might die. Might pass right away. and then i like if i was the partner who killed my partner on a roller coaster with a vibrator in them i don't think i could come back from that no maybe a concert like a edm no not a symphony maybe like a loud one like everyone's everyone's dancing and jumping around he's a mosh pit or
Starting point is 00:48:02 something coming in a mosh pit everyone's screaming oh god that'd be so awful you're just coming i think she likes it i'm punching her but i think she likes it everyone just hits you harder because they're like she wants it i think i would try it and if it was too overwhelming i would remove it yeah but i can't i'm not gonna just say no like flat out no i would yeah try it maybe at a walmart you know them people are wild you know you could try it at home right you could oh shit like home, right? Oh, shit. Like, put on Sonic and just be with your partner and have that go. That's how you could do it.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Okay, sorry. Is that too much? Is that a heart attack? Sonic is not sexual. Sonic is not sexual. Sonic is a child. Sorry. Sonic is a little boy. A little blue alien boy. You love Sonic. I'm. Sorry. Sonic is a little boy. A little blue alien boy.
Starting point is 00:49:06 You love Sonic. I'm not coming to Sonic. He's a child. He's an alien child. Looking for friends and family. And a dad. So what would be a better movie? You want me to come to a family film oh lord jordan wow
Starting point is 00:49:29 wow it's you and your partner what are you picking i don't know a sexy movie for adults the second movie that was literally i talk about all it was me and a 10 year old having the time of our lives forrest gump forrest gump it is an adult movie it is i mean but it starts off with a special needs kid breaking his braces and you want me to come while he's running free of his braces i'm only writing movies that you really like. Okay. Here's maybe, okay.
Starting point is 00:50:14 The sexiest movie I've seen in a very long time is one. Well, it wasn't very sexy, but Sylvester Stallone's naked in it. The specialist. Two, what is it? It's called Unchained Desire. No, that's not it. Imperfect Proposal that's a very sexy movie robert redford oh i'd wear it for those two movies okay great so sheer what movie would you wear it for jordan i cannot believe you said sonic it's like wearing it during winnie the pooh like what the what
Starting point is 00:50:47 just because sonic doesn't wear clothes doesn't mean he needs to be sexualized but i thought the point was like to do it or i guess there's no point but i guess the challenge is to do it in a place that or in an environment where it wouldn't be sexual yes it wouldn't be sexual because there's children at sonic it's children in the movie yeah in the first one he watches kids play baseball and then plays at night because he can't be friends with them because he's a blue child alien. I didn't know this. I'm sorry. I guess I didn't know Sonic was a kid. I thought he was,
Starting point is 00:51:29 I don't know, 40 years old. He's old. He's been around for a while. He literally sounds like this. Like he's a child. Well, he didn't have a voice during the game. I guess not. I just want everyone to know I don't condone this. Yeah? Well, he didn't have a voice during the game. I guess not. I just want everyone to know I don't condone this.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Yeah? Well, Jordan, now I know what you think is on it. I'm so sorry. I didn't know. I haven't seen the movies. Well, why not? I have talked about these movies for years. What is everyone doing?
Starting point is 00:52:02 If everyone talked passionately about a movie, I would watch it hmm okay that's that's fair i'm sorry yeah what is everyone sorry that they have forsaken me wow i'm shocking i think we can wrap up the episode oh my god as she slips out of her sonic wow if you have something to say to
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Starting point is 00:53:31 somehow gave a view to the sonic movie on paramount plus they're like wow a lot of people are watching this movie okay goodbye bye i was just I truly was just naming movies that you enjoy I didn't know there was I didn't realize it was children in a movie no that was so good it's the hardest I've laughed since this year I did a British accent that was wonderful.

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