Betrayal Weekly - Torrah | Betrayal Weekly

Episode Date: September 5, 2024

Death brings an avalanche of discoveries about the man Torrah thought she knew. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow us on Instagram at @be...trayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. What's up, everyone? I'm Ago Vodam. My next guest, it's Will Ferrell. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. He goes, just give it a shot.
Starting point is 00:00:15 But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the, cat just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed, I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves.
Starting point is 00:00:58 We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe, on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd was accused of fathering twins. But the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax. You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Ellen's, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Lesbian. Michael Marantini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:53 How could this have happened in City Hall? Somebody tell me that. A shocking public murder. This was one of the most dramatic events that really ever happened in New York City politics. I scream, get down, get down, those are shots. A tragedy that's now forgotten and a mystery that may or may not have been political, that may have been about sex.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Listen to Rorschach, murder at City Hall, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an incredible story that sounds like it's made up. It sounds like a soap opera. It sounds like a drama movie. But it's so real and it's not the only one. There are things we might not know about somebody we live with.
Starting point is 00:02:45 And there's so many stories like this. I'm Andrea Gunning, and this is Betrayal, a show about the people we trust the most and the deceptions that change everything. About a year ago, we heard from a listener with a story that floored us. Tora Giles is a history professor in Colorado, but she grew up on the California coast with her seven siblings. And we grew up on a farm. So my life was kind of wild and crazy and great.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I grew up super religious in the Seventh-A Adventist Church. As a kid, the church was Torah's life. She went to a Christian school. Her friends and after-school activities were all through the church. And she assumed that her life would follow the same path that was modeled by the women around her. Graduate high school, get married, and start having kids. Funny enough, I thought as a kid that 20 years old,
Starting point is 00:03:56 was being a grown-up and 25-year-olds were old. And so I thought for sure that I would be married by 20, but I never really dated. After high school, Torah became a full-time nanny, and she tried to give dating a shot. I finally went on one date with a guy and gave him like the little peck at the end of the night and was just like, nope, that was not for,
Starting point is 00:04:28 me, I did not like that. I don't want to date. Tora started to realize that the traditional path wasn't for her. So instead of trying to find a husband, she started planning for a new career. I decided to go to college and I studied history, which was really fun. After undergrad, she moved to Colorado to pursue a PhD in history. I was living in this really cute tiny apartment in the older section of Colorado Springs, so cute and just loving my life. I felt like I had really kind of arrived.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I had a job. I was teaching. I had friends. I was very happy. She loved teaching, especially American history. It was so much fun. Keep this in my... It's January of 2017,
Starting point is 00:05:17 and I decided it would be a good time to teach conspiracy, culture, and elections in United States political history. By this time, Toro was in her mid-30s. She'd tried dating for years, but ultimately decided she didn't need romance. Her life was complete without it. Dating and romantic relationships were not going to be part of my life. And I was sort of settled into that in a very comfortable way where it didn't bother me.
Starting point is 00:05:47 It wasn't something I was thinking out. I wasn't on dating apps. I wasn't looking for it. And I certainly was not looking for him. In that class, she met a student named Aaron. Like her, he was also in his mid-30s. He had a service dog, this really cute English Mastiff named Osa, and she had the best underbite,
Starting point is 00:06:11 and she would be in the back of class chomping on a bone. So I was always very aware of his presence, partially because of her. He would come up after class, and we would pet the dog and chat a little bit. Aaron was a veteran, a former army medic who'd lost his foot in an explosion in Iraq. I knew that he had had an amputation to his leg. He talked about it fairly frequently. He had a handy cat parking pass. The disability was a big part of his life, but it didn't define him,
Starting point is 00:06:44 and it certainly didn't hold him back. He was finishing his bachelor's degree on his way to start nursing school. After each class, he would stay behind and chat with Torah. He had a very slow way of speaking. There was no rush for anything in life. I always had the vibe that he was one of those people that would talk forever if you let them. And so I would start to gather my things
Starting point is 00:07:06 and eventually he started walking me to my car because my class was from 7 to 10 p.m. And it was very surface-level chat. Throughout the whole time I was his teacher, usually about class, and usually about some interesting fact. He was like a sponge for me. information. Aaron shared that he was Native American, Chalk Tall, which was a big part of his
Starting point is 00:07:29 identity. And she noticed that he was always immaculately put together. He had kind of long hair that he kept tied back in this low knot on the back of his head, kind of slicked back low. I hesitate to call a man bun because I know that would hurt Aaron's feelings, but that's what it was. And he had a cowboy western vibe, though it's not like costuming, but he wore a lot of very nice buttonups and jeans and leather
Starting point is 00:07:59 boots. So that was pretty much his uniform. You just have this confident air about him that he knew he was smart, he knew he was good looking, but he was also kind and respectful and interesting and funny and talented.
Starting point is 00:08:15 And I was a fan very quickly, just of his entire aura. Aaron and Tora kept talking every week after class for the rest of the semester. At some point in those conversations, I brought up the fact that I had been a nanny. And a few months later, he came to me after class one day and said, we need to switch where my son is going to daycare. What do you know about maybe hiring a nanny?
Starting point is 00:08:47 So we chatted a little bit about that, and that's how I found out he had a child. I didn't know that before. He wore a ring, so I knew he was married, but I didn't know that he had a kid who was a baby at the time, maybe four or five months old. So that was sort of our first foray into anything personal was just that bit of advice he was seeking about finding good child care.
Starting point is 00:09:08 After the class ended in May, Tora got a Facebook friend request. It was from Aaron. He was already Facebook friends with other teachers, so she accepted the request. And then about a week later, he sent me a message. about nine, 10 o'clock at night. I was already in bed and I thought, well, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:09:25 What the heck? And so rolled over and checked the message it was from him. And he just said, you know, something very casual. How are you? And I said, oh, I'm good. The whole time thinking, like, what does this guy want? Keep in mind, I am very single, very happy to be single, not looking for anything.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I think he's great. Hadn't really given any thought. The man's married with a baby, right? They chatted for a few minutes before Aaron revealed why he had reached out. He said, do you know that I'm going through a pretty bad divorce? And I said, oh, no, I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:10:01 So we chat a little bit about it. He said, yeah, actually, she was arrested last night. We got into an argument and she got physical. And I said, oh, that's terrible. I'm so sorry to hear that. And then I did the nice thing, which I've since learned not to do, which is I said,
Starting point is 00:10:20 Is there anything I do to help? And he said, well, I might need some help with my son. Tora read between the lines. Aaron was desperate. He was about to start in an intensive two-year nursing program. And now, he would likely have full custody of his infant son. She felt for his situation. And the next day, while Aaron was on campus,
Starting point is 00:10:45 he swung by Tora's office with his baby in tow. He wanted to thank Tora for the semester. and for offering to help. When I sat and listened to him and I held the baby and oh my gosh, he was the cutest little thing. And then as we sort of wrapped up that conversation, it was the end of my day. And he said, okay, well, if you need anything,
Starting point is 00:11:04 let me know. And he said, well, actually, I have a paper I have to work on tonight. Would you be able to come over and just hang out with him while I do my homework for an hour or two and then I'll make dinner? Almost reflexively, she said yes. It was more this like, Christian sense of duty that I had been trained into.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Someone needs help. You show up even if it's inconvenient or you don't really want to. And that was my first thought is I don't really want to. I don't really want someone who's going to rely on me. I don't really want to be involved in someone else's drama. And I have a full-time job. I'm teaching. I'm busy.
Starting point is 00:11:42 In addition to that, she didn't want Erin to mistake her kindness for something else. I'm worried all the time that men are, going to take my presence as some sort of an invitation, and I was so anti-dating in relationships that it was just something I never wanted to foster. So I'm thinking about all this as I'm driving the 20 minutes to his house. Like, okay, I'm going to have to think of boundaries. I'm going to have to be careful with saying yes. When she got to his house, her anxiety dissipated. He was just Aaron, and that made her feel comfortable. He was himself, the way he always was with me after class, just very warm and friendly and kind and thoughtful.
Starting point is 00:12:25 So I stayed, had dinner, and then, you know, stay and we'll have an adult beverage is what he used to call them. Stay and we'll have an adult beverage after the boy goes to bed. And I didn't really have anything going on. So why not? So I stayed and we had a beer, sat out on the back patio. And he told me a little bit more about what was going on. And it was pretty bad. There were holes in the wall going up the stairs.
Starting point is 00:12:53 There was a hole in the wall in the dining room. And we just talked and talked and talked and talked. He shared a little bit of the emotions that came up with him. Oh, I feel bad and she is my son's mother, but also we can't keep doing this and I need to get out of this marriage. That night, they ended up talking until 1 a.m. I have work at 8 a.m. And he said, just fresh in my guest room. Here's some clean pajamas.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Here's a toothbrush. just crashed downstairs. And I did, which is so out of character for me. I felt a little weird, but I was very happy to be around him and just wanted to stay there and be helpful. I love to be helpful. I love to be needed. So I stayed the night, got up in the morning, trucked off to work.
Starting point is 00:13:39 And then the next day he said, hey, I've got a test coming up. If you're free later on, I went back over there. Soon she was going over to errands every few days to help out with his son. It felt like the right thing to do. I was always sleeping in the guest room. I made it very clear to him. I don't let people touch me. I'm not interested in a romantic relationship.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I am just here to help. I want to be your friend. I want you to feel supported. But that's as far as this is going to go. And I just kept telling him like, we're just friends. I don't let people touch me. The fact that I give you hugs is kind of exceptional. You have to respect that.
Starting point is 00:14:17 And he really did. After Aaron would put his son to bed, the two of them would stay up and have a drink on the back patio and just talk about life. It became their little ritual. He was a very guarded person. So a lot of what he would talk about was things that were very present right now. If he brought up the past, it always felt like kind of an honor that he trusted me with that story. and he would point that out in a very subtle way of, oh, I don't really tell people this story, but you're different.
Starting point is 00:14:54 We just never ran out of things to say. After about two months of this, Torah went back home to visit her family in California. The whole time I'm with my family, I'm bringing him up, and I'm talking with him on the phone, and they're seeing that this person is making me kind of giddy and smiley and those kinds of things. She had never talked about a friend like this before.
Starting point is 00:15:18 When she got home from that trip, she went straight to Aaron's house. He had cleaned the whole house. He had some of my favorite music on. Baby was in bed. He had, you know, a bouquet of flowers and a card welcoming me home and thanking me for being his friend. And that was my first sort of inkling like, hmm, I'm going to have to keep an eye on this because here I was at home kind of being giddy about this person. and here he is bringing me flowers.
Starting point is 00:15:47 So there was this undercurrent starting where I'm repeatedly saying him, like, we're just friends, but we're friends who are snuggling on the couch watching a movie, not touching each other, just leaning like my head on his shoulder or something. So benign, so middle school. But it was perfect for me because I wasn't ready to do that. One night, while they were up late,
Starting point is 00:16:13 talking on the patio, Aaron finally said what they had both been thinking. He said something to me, like, I think you're in love with me. And I said, I think you're in love with me. And that was it. We were in a relationship after that. That day became their anniversary. I leaned in, and it was the most fulfilling time of my whole entire existence. I'm getting emotional just talking about.
Starting point is 00:16:43 about it because that part is perfect in my mind. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man.
Starting point is 00:17:26 A group of women discover they've all dated. the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Wode.
Starting point is 00:18:03 My next guest, you know from Stepbrothers, Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place they come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much. luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of,
Starting point is 00:18:53 you know, the cat, just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to thanks dad on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. In 2003, former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story.
Starting point is 00:19:22 This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in someone, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. sunlight's the greatest disinfected. They would uncover a disturbing pattern.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Gregalespian and Michael Marantini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until Justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:20:13 or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back. I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. Every episode's a little different, but it all involves music and conversation
Starting point is 00:20:30 with some of my favorite musicians. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Lave, Davis Staples, Remy Wolf, Jeff Tweedy, really too many to name. And this season, I've sat down with Alessia Cara, Sarah McLaughlin, John Legend, and more. Check out my new episode with Josh Grobin. You related to the Phantom at that point.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that. That's so funny. Share each day with me each night, each morning. Say you love me. You know I... So come hang out with us in the studio and listen to Playing Along on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:21:20 After writing off romance, Torah found a man who defied all expectations. Aaron was strikingly handsome, determined, respectful, and he was an incredible father. Torah moved into his house and their relationship deepened. That's when Aaron opened up about his traumatic childhood. He said that both of his parents, were abusive.
Starting point is 00:21:41 His family was incredibly complicated, incredibly damaged, incredibly dysfunctional, and these were the reasons that he's so guarded. These are the reasons that he doesn't have a relationship with them or see them or go to visit them. When he was 18, he ran away from home and joined the military. At the time, the war in Iraq was just beginning. He worked his way up to become a special forces medic. But his military career ended in tragedy.
Starting point is 00:22:09 He got hurt in Iraq. They were on a drive through a city of some kind and hit an IED, and the Humvee in front of them blew up. There's didn't, but the impact knocked theirs off. It's balanced. He got hurt. His foot was amputated because of that injury, and he was medically retired and then came home. Aaron spent weeks in the hospital recovering from his injury. And even in this time of crisis, his family turmoil continued.
Starting point is 00:22:39 His dad showed up to the hospital and tried to get medical power of attorney so that he could sell Aaron's portion of land that he had been left by his grandparents on the Choctaw Reservation in Oklahoma. So Aaron fought tooth and nail to get better, to get stronger, and kicked his dad out of his life. This is one of the reasons he needed Torres help because he didn't have anyone. His family and his ex-wife, they weren't safe people. Tora realized he'd spent his entire life moving from one traumatic situation to another. The man was covered in enormous scars. Everything about him screams, I have had a hard life. I have had a physically hard life.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I've been injured. I've had surgeries. Even though it had been years since Aaron was injured in the war, it was part of his everyday life. He walked with a very slight limp and kept that leg pretty stiff, but he always kept a sock on that foot. And I just figured he wanted to protect it. He had a couple of different doctors who were working on maybe a better prosthetic because he ended up injuring his knee on that same leg, and we thought maybe he needed a little bit more support from that prosthetic.
Starting point is 00:24:05 And that wasn't his only injury from the war. He'd also injured his back, his shoulder, and his arm. They were constantly getting re-injured, causing Aaron to go to the doctor in pain. But despite all this, he still fought for full custody. Especially because of his childhood, Aaron was determined to show up for his son. He was an incredible father. He was so attentive and so loving and so affectionate and just lit up when it came time to, go get the boy out of bed
Starting point is 00:24:40 or read the boy his bedtime story. We called him the boy, I'm going to call him the boy because I'm not going to say his name. The boy was only a few months old when Tora met him and she was there for all of his big firsts. The boy and I were just absolutely connected at the hip from day one.
Starting point is 00:25:02 When it was time for him to start eating solids, I was the one who decided how that should go because I have 20 years of child care experience. And this is his first child. He and I would just light up to be around each other. The boy took his first steps to Torah. The three of them fell into a kind of domestic bliss based on a foundation of love for each other
Starting point is 00:25:22 and love for Aaron's son. After a year together, Torah felt like this was her family now. She didn't want to go through the formalities of a wedding and marriage. So instead, they lived as common law spouses. They just started calling each other husband and wife. With Aaron in school, Tora took on more financial responsibility. He's a retired veteran, so he gets some money, but, you know, life is expensive. So we were always a little bit stressed on money.
Starting point is 00:25:56 He really liked being a provider and making sure that the baby had everything he needed. But that usually meant that there was no food in the refrigerator for adults. So I started doing things like pitching it on groceries, and I took over the the Wi-Fi and the trash bills. Erin had to make a monthly home equity payments was ex-wife, and the expenses just kept coming. Oh, gosh, it was just never-ending. We needed a new roof, but we didn't have any money.
Starting point is 00:26:24 We needed to pay off $5,000 in credit cards in order to get a refinance on the mortgage so we didn't lose the house. Despite the stress of living paycheck to paycheck, Torah was filled with love for her family. Everything was precariously perfectly balanced. That was until Aaron got sick. One day, he woke up in excruciating pain with a very high fever.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Tura had to go to work, so Aaron went to see their family doctor by himself. And when he got there, his fever was so high, he needed to go to the ER right away. One of the things that they thought might be going on when he was in the ER was that he was having some kind of an infection from his amputation. He called Torah from the hospital and she rushed over. But when she got there, he wasn't in a hospital room. Aaron was just sitting by the hospital entrance in a wheelchair. He said that they ended up accusing him of being pain med-seeking. And he said that was racist.
Starting point is 00:27:25 That was because he was brown. He literally ripped the IV out of his arm and stormed out of the hospital. And I kind of yelled at him all the way home. Like, what were you thinking? You obviously need help. Something is going on. He had a very high fever. He was in a lot of pain. I could see that he was miserable. It had been a long, awful day sitting in the yard, getting tests done on him and all of them coming back negative.
Starting point is 00:27:48 In addition to the fever, Aaron was in excruciating pain, debilitating chronic pain from his old combat injuries. But this time, his doctors weren't able to figure out what was going on. So Tora stepped in to take care of him. This whole time, I'm icing his back. I'm getting the ice packs for his knee. he had special equipment for icing his shoulder. I'm driving him around to doctor's appointments because he's in too much pain to drive. I can see the pain on his face. I can see him changing and drawing into this pain in his life of being in chronic pain.
Starting point is 00:28:24 He stopped going to the gym and then he stopped working out in the garage and then he stopped moving eventually. He just sat around all day and the house stopped getting cleaned. and this is all because he's in excruciating pain and he's miserable. He spent weeks on the couch unable to function. To keep his spirits up, he showed Torah his favorite YouTube videos. He mentioned, have you ever heard of Stolen Valor? And he pulled up YouTube. And we spent, I would say probably an hour watching YouTube videos
Starting point is 00:28:59 of people being exposed for Stolen Valor. Stolen Valor is the term for people who impersonate military service. members and veterans. And so there's lots of videos on YouTube of people going up to a person wearing a uniform in, say, a mall and saying your bars are on the wrong side of your collar, your patches upside down. You are not supposed to be in this uniform, you know, shaming them for this act of stolen valor.
Starting point is 00:29:30 And this was something that he was very amused by, that these people are getting caught and shamed publicly. He loved it. He thought it was so entertaining. It was a welcome distraction from his pain, especially considering the price he was paying for his military service. She understood why he liked the Stolen Valor video so much. So as he withdraws into this chronic pain,
Starting point is 00:29:56 I'm pushing harder and harder to make sure that bills are paid, to make sure that the house is taking care, make sure the baby has everything he needs, to make sure the baby got to go to the park today and play outside. I just started picking up more and more of the slack as he withdrew into being miserable. It was awful to watch the person that you're so in love with, falling apart in front of me.
Starting point is 00:30:34 There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriend. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the Girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Trust me, babe. on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Wodom. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:31:51 and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit.
Starting point is 00:32:18 If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, former Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal.
Starting point is 00:32:47 The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in so-ins, correct? I doctored the test ones. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfected. They would uncover a disturbing pattern.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Gregalespian and Michael Marantini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, news, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at
Starting point is 00:33:30 Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to a love-trapped podcast on the I-Heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back. I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. Every episode's a little different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Leveh, Mavis Staples,
Starting point is 00:34:08 Remy Wolfe, Jeff Tweedy, really too many to name. And this season, I've sat down with Alessia Cara, Sarah McLaughlin, John Legend, and more. Check out my new episode with Josh Grobin. You related to the Phantom at that point. Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that. It's so funny. Share each day with me, each night, each morning. Say you love me.
Starting point is 00:34:38 You know I... So come hang out with us in the studio and listen to Playing Along on the Iheart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Tora's new life with Aaron was thrown off balance when his chronic pain took a sharp turn for the worst. Aaron eventually started pain management therapy. and Torah felt helpless. He was taking oxycodone, I believe, Perkinset.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Anyway, he was taking one of those. And he was supposed to take, like, one a day. He was taking, like, two or three, because he was in so much pain. He said he knew what he was doing. He was in nursing school, and had years of training as an army medic. One night, before he came to bed.
Starting point is 00:35:18 He went to a shower. He came back into the room, and he had a patch on his shoulder. I said, what's that? And he said, oh, it's fentanyl. it's great, I'm not in any pain. It's amazing. And I said, but you took your beds today?
Starting point is 00:35:34 He said, yeah? And I said, isn't that how people overdose? And he kind of poopoed me. Like, I know what I'm doing. I'm not an idiot. It's fine. I'm going to bed. Good night.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I've had a bad day. We're not going to have a fight about this. I was so uncomfortable. And I just sat there staring at his back, wanting to rip them off, but trusting him at the same time. In the morning, Aaron was unresponsive. So I grabbed my phone and I called 911, hysterical, said,
Starting point is 00:36:13 my husband's not breathing. He was asleep and he's not waking up. The 911 operator instructed her to begin chest compressions until the paramedics arrived. And the whole time I'm doing chest compressions, I'm like, he's cold. He's gone. This man is not alive. The whole time in the background, the boy is just screaming my name. The paramedics arrived and confirmed what she already knew.
Starting point is 00:36:44 There was no bringing Aaron back. She called friends to come over and together they waited for the coroner. Not knowing what else to do, she fixated on the boy. He was three. Torah tried to distract him, play with him, but he wanted to know what was going on. He loved with the little prince, and we started saying, you know, Daddy went to hang out in the stars with the little prince and the fox.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Before the coroner came, Torah and their friends took turns saying goodbye. We all went up and sat with Aaron and I sat down and I told him, I will miss you every day for the rest of my life. and then he was gone. But his death would reveal an avalanche of discoveries. It began on that very day when his ex-wife showed up at the front door. The police had notified her of Aaron's death. And his ex-wife called his family, his estranged family.
Starting point is 00:37:49 About 10 o'clock to knock on my door, and the boy's mom showed up and insisted on sitting down and talking to me. I don't know this person at all other than the reputation that I have been very carefully spoon fed for three years, which is that she is awful and a horrible person. And she came in like a blast of cold air, sat down in my living room and said, if you want to be in my son's life,
Starting point is 00:38:14 there's some things you need to know. First of all, Aaron's not chalkedaw. Aaron's black. And I kind of laughed at her. I'm like, okay, lady. Like, really, we're going to do this right now. Given the circumstances, this comment seemed absurd and irrelevant. But his ex-wife insisted that there were truths about Erin that Torah needed to know.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Before she could share more, Aaron's biological family arrived. They were surprised to meet Torah. They didn't know she existed. It was Aaron's mom and Aaron's brother, who was very much a black man. They came in, they sat down in my living room, and I told them, about me and my life with Aaron, how long we've been together. And she said, he wasn't a good person. And I thought, well, that's a really weird thing to say to a grieving widow.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Tora had seen pictures of Aaron's mother, father, and brother. But these people in her house, they weren't the same ones she'd seen photos of. Nothing made sense. From Aaron's sudden death to the arrival of this family she didn't recognize. But they were his family. and now they wanted the house back right away. I gave it a lot of thought, and I called my family on a Zoom call,
Starting point is 00:39:34 and I said, okay, I'm going to vacate the house. I don't own it. I mean, it's not on it. I don't have any right to it. And my friend, the lawyer, said, take what's yours, what you bought together, and nothing else. Tora packed her car with a few boxes and prepared to leave. She'd also be leaving the boys she'd raised.
Starting point is 00:39:55 raised from infancy to nearly age four. But she knew she wasn't part of his biological family. It was clear that with Aaron gone, Torah just didn't have a place in the boy's life. I reached down and I picked him up and I held him really close. And I said, never forget I love you. And I'm your alma and that would never change. And she'd go out of the road, your boy, I never saw the kids.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Before walking out of the house for the last time, she decided to take Aaron's laptop with her. Her brother came to meet her, and together they drove back to their parents' house in California. I fell apart. I fell apart. I wasn't getting out of bed. I wasn't taking care of myself.
Starting point is 00:40:43 I was eating. I was a disaster. At first, she fixated on his death, how and why it happened. She got a copy of his autopsy report. When I got his autopsy, It was very much an overdose. He had on double the dose,
Starting point is 00:41:03 and he had taken double the dose of oxycodone at the same time to go to bed. And there was something else on his autopsy that stood out. On his autopsy, he had a brace on his leg. He said brace on his left leg. And I thought, well, that's a really weird way to say prosthetic. and that was the last I thought of it.
Starting point is 00:41:28 The questions that came up right after his death about his family, his race, she just didn't have the capacity to think about all of that at the time. I stayed very much in grieving widow mode for two months, and it wasn't until after the second month that I opened my eyes finally. So I just let a lot of this stuff slide and thought, like, either I'll deal with it later or it's not true or it's a misunderstanding. And then after two months, I opened his computer and everything changed instantly. So I opened the computer, got right in on the first try, knew the password.
Starting point is 00:42:09 And I opened his pictures and I started looking through and there were some screenshots in there that sent me to his text messages. All of his text messages are on his computer. And immediately within 20 seconds, realized that he was a lot of. in a relationship with somebody long distance. I spent an hour coming through their text messages, which were graphic and filthy. And the worst part of all of it,
Starting point is 00:42:42 there were two things that were just devastating. The first was that the things he said to her while they were having this fantasy relationship is the same stuff he would say to me when we were intimate verbatim. And he would tell her, well, I have time and I won't have the boy on these dates because I was going to be gone for a conference on those dates. So that was a lot to realize that, like, he was manipulating her and mean to keep us both on the hook back and forth. But then the worst thing I found in everything I found was him saying, nobody has ever loved me.
Starting point is 00:43:24 nobody except for you and that is the biggest lie he ever told and just the most infuriating devastating cruel thing he could have said was that nobody had ever loved him and here i had just spent eight weeks bottomed out devastated flatlined because this man had died and i had given him everything. She kept looking through his texts and found more women. He was texting four other girls. A couple from Tinder, couple from school. One of my favorites was a girl he had been in school with who had been to our house and knew me. And they were talking about how she could move in and her teenager could live in the basement bedroom. It's a three-bedroom house. And his son lives in one of those bedrooms. So presumably I'm not living there as she's moving in. So
Starting point is 00:44:27 that was like, what the heck is he just going to kick me out? Like, this is recent. Aaron was talking to these women up until the week he died, making plans with them and inviting them over. And he was saying, well, you know, I don't ever have anything going on a Tuesday night. We could come over for dinner. We could watch a movie. But then I have to go to bed around 10 because I was teaching.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I was at class 7 to 10 on Tuesdays. So he knew I would stay at work. and go to club. So that was like, I guess, kind of opening that box. Like, okay, so he's been doing stuff behind my back. I don't know what. I still don't. I don't need to.
Starting point is 00:45:08 It doesn't matter. He offered it. In the two months since Aaron died, these women had been trying to get in touch with him. So Torah messaged them back to let them know he was gone. The girlfriend messaged me back. What? No, this isn't real. what's going on? Who are you really? Did you steal his phone? Just total disbelief, which is fair.
Starting point is 00:45:32 It was completely fair. And I said, yeah, no, real. Here's some pictures of us. We've been together for this amount of time, three years. And she said, we've been together for longer than that. They've been together when he was married to his other wife. Torah kept digging through his laptop. And that's when she saw the photo that changed everything. On his computer were all these pictures of his honeymoon, including his two fully attacked feet on the beach. Much, much after he was supposedly injured. I just stared at these feet. Like, these are his feet.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I recognized one of them, but I'd seen one of them without a sock on. The entire time they were together, Aaron kept a sock and a brace on his prosthetic foot. she had never actually seen his amputation site. He didn't ever like pop off a prosthetic or anything like that in front of me. And he needed to shower downstairs because it was really hard for him to step into the shower upstairs. So it was a tub shower combo. So he basically had his own bathroom in the downstairs part of the house. So I never saw him fully unclosed.
Starting point is 00:46:56 because he kept a sock on it when we were, you know, sleeping. So I never questioned it. It was his private business. That's his medical history. And there was nothing for me to say, well, that seems off. She saw the monthly checks coming in from the military. She heard the hard prosthetic foot hitting the ground when he walked. Plus, he was self-conscious about his injury.
Starting point is 00:47:23 She never pressed him further. Why would I question that? Who would that make me? But after she saw the photo of Aaron's two feet in the sand on his honeymoon, Tora called their family doctor, the doctor who'd done physical exams on her and Aaron in the past year. I said, did you ever look at his prosthetic or looked at his amputation site? And she said, oh, I'm sure I did.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Well, maybe not actually. Let me think. Maybe I didn't. And I just sat there flabbergasted. And at that point, that was what was finally, like, yeah, this man did not have an amputated foot. I don't know what he was wearing. I don't know why he was wearing it. But it wasn't a prosthetic foot.
Starting point is 00:48:16 This shocking revelation caused her to question the whole story she'd been told about his military career. Found his DD214, which is like his exit paperwork from the military. and it didn't add up with what he told me. On his discharge papers, it said he did join the military at 18, and he did go to combat once, not four times like he'd said. He wasn't a special forces medic like he'd claimed. She doesn't know why he left the army, but it wasn't because of an injury.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Her entire understanding of Aaron changed. And I went out into the kitchen. And I poured myself, I am not joking, eight ounces of tequila, downed that. My dad lives in the country, thank goodness, walked out way out into the hills and just screamed and screamed and screamed until I lost my voice. The person I had just spent three years loving and caring for and two months devastated over his loss didn't exist. and I came to this point that day where I said at the end of the day he took everything from me and when there was nothing left to take
Starting point is 00:49:39 he took himself from me the person I had loved and been in a relationship with disappeared and with him went three years of my life into a black hole who was Aaron and what was his real life story I was Googling everything I could I'm a historian I can research like nobody's business.
Starting point is 00:50:04 So I'm just Googling everything I can think of to try to find out who this person is. I'm looking on Facebook. I'm looking on Instagram, social media. She started reaching out to people who were connected to Erin. You know, now I'm asking questions, right? What about these people? It's not real. Grandparents were not those people that didn't exist at all.
Starting point is 00:50:23 I mean, it was an entirely crafted life. His family is fake. His military experience was not his. And I don't know how he kept it all straight. She found out that the family who showed up at Aaron's house, those people she didn't recognize, they were his biological family. And they were very different from what Aaron described. So I didn't know about his real mom, even though she's a real person who lives in a real place.
Starting point is 00:50:52 I knew about some other version of someone that he could completely control that narrative. And I'm never going to look her up and say, is this the truth? I was the perfect person for him because I chose to trust him. And he practiced different things. He tried out different things to test me to see if I would trust him. And I did. I always did. He very carefully curated my life. When she started looking back on it,
Starting point is 00:51:19 she realized that Aaron had slowly isolated her from anyone who'd known him for more than four years, anyone who would contradict the narrative he was telling her. When I finally learned everything and could sort of lay out a life timeline for him, there is about a three to five year capacity on the stories he was telling people. And then he would move on in some way. He would leave town. He would start a new school program, something like that. He'd get married.
Starting point is 00:51:48 So he was coming to the end of that. And his stories were getting a little thin. The amputation, the chronic pain from combat wounds, even his Native American ancestry. It was all a lie. The one thing that was real is that he was sick. He had an opioid addiction.
Starting point is 00:52:09 She sees that clearly now. And she sees that as a part of a larger pattern of behavior. He's an addict. So he's always looking for kind of that next better hit of whatever it was. And sometimes it was a partner and sometimes it was becoming a parent.
Starting point is 00:52:25 And sometimes it was a new degree in school. But he's tying things together, trying to make himself a life that he would have been happy with. So he just kept shifting it into this story that he liked a little better and a little better, a little better. And it still didn't satisfy him. He still needed narcotics. I feel very strongly that he wanted to stay in our life, but wasn't sure how to do that. Do I think that he put the patches on and hoped he would fall asleep and never wake up? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:53:08 You can probably tell that Torah's been through years of therapy to understand and heal from what happened to her. My doctor had me talk to the therapist in her office, and I owe everything to his methods. He gave me terminology, and that terminology completely changed how I was. was going through this. He was the first person to say, you have PTSD. And I thought, no, no, no, PTSD is for soldiers, which is a really common thought. That PTSD is for people who've been to war, but through war. He was really good about, this is what I think might be going on, read it, let's talk about it next time.
Starting point is 00:53:56 He was providing me information to heal myself. It's been four years since Aaron died, and she discovered. that the man she was building a life with was a fraud. I'll still be driving down the road and have a random memory and go, oh, yeah, that's probably what happened. I'm still less and less and less and less putting things together and making the pieces fit. But I'll never know everything and I'll never have closure.
Starting point is 00:54:25 And I think that's probably the most important thing. It's like closure isn't necessary for you to move on and heal. It's really not. help, but it's not necessary. Instead, she's tried to find understanding for the real person Aaron was. With him gone, she's been able to access a kind of empathy, not to excuse his behavior, but to make peace with it. He was broken.
Starting point is 00:54:52 He was broken by a world that breaks people and spits them out. I think he grew up feeling inadequate. He grew up feeling unloved. And he wanted to write himself a better story than that. And instead of becoming someone who would be loved, loved, he became someone who he thought was lovable and adjusted it for each person as he met them. Toro moved back to Colorado where she still teaches history, but she says that this time around, she's a different person. She's forever changed by the love she had with Aaron and the pain
Starting point is 00:55:29 he put her through. We end every episode with the same question. Why did you want to tell story. This is an incredible story that sounds like it's made up. It sounds like a soap opera, sounds like a drama movie. But it's so real and it's not the only one. And there's so many stories like this. The more we talk about it, the more out in the open, we bring these people who exist in the shadows and want to operate from the shadows. We have to understand them. We have to assign terminology to the disorders that cause them to act in these ways. And we have to support people who've been through it. And my mission through all of this became sort of explaining to more and more people that you can heal.
Starting point is 00:56:26 You will heal. What you're experiencing is valid. Something that I say so often to this day is my story was true and my experiences were valid. My story was true. Even if his wasn't, mine was. On the next episode of betrayal. I went out into the garage area. The car was gone.
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