Blue By Ninety - BB90 Episode 112: the basement pod

Episode Date: August 10, 2022

The boys had an incredible video performance and this episode should be watched on youtube if able. If not, the boys do preseason talk, recap 2021 season and do some what ifs, who should start at QB a...nd why plus more. crack a coldy and enjoy. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a presentation of Blue by 90. Find us on Twitter at Blue by 90 and shop the merchandise at Blueby90shop.com. This is the University of Michigan. Touchdown, Michigan! The beat of Michigan ball! And they caught extra pass. And it goes for the win!
Starting point is 00:00:23 The three-pointer by Jordan Poole! Down the sideline! All right. Welcome back to Blue by 90. I'm Justin, joined by Jack and Kalen, as always. Boys, this is our first basement pod. Basement pod. We're in Jack's basement. Dogcast with the dog. Dogcast.
Starting point is 00:00:50 We got Oakley down here. I got him on camera. Oak, breathe into it. He's focused on the tennis ball. Very focused on the tennis ball. But yeah, I don't really know why we haven't done this before. Very exciting. A little new mic setup, new camera setup.
Starting point is 00:01:07 So if you're watching, go to YouTube. If you're not watching, go to YouTube. But if you're watching, stay on YouTube. Stay on YouTube. If you're watching, I'm sorry. You have to look at us. I mean, I'm spread eagle here, but it is what it is. Can we zoom in on the crotch while going there?
Starting point is 00:01:24 Oh, no no just look at the door no just go straight to your face well that's way worse honestly um why did we give jack the fucking controls of this i i'll tell you what this is making my day it's pretty i'm sure it is um it is august 9th 9th? I don't know. Midweek of August 8th. It's the week of August 8th. We are into camp season. That's exciting. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Do you guys feel like it's like camp is here, like football is back a little bit? It's been nice to see videos and pictures of the boys back in the pads. Most definitely. It hasn't, like, quite hit me yet, just, like, how close football season is. Yeah. But I'm, like, starting to feel a little bit of the excitement where I'm, like, oh, okay, like, they're in pads,
Starting point is 00:02:19 like, they're putting some videos out there, like, okay, like, ease me into it here. Was today the first day of pads? It was. It was. Yes. We are, if you can do the math and figure out for us what day it is, we're 25 days out was the post today.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Okay. 25 days out from September 3rd, I believe. The only way I know how many days out we are 3rd, I believe. It's funny. The only way I know how many days out we are is just following Swanky. And he's got like one every day. That's true. He does have a good new edit every day. He does.
Starting point is 00:02:56 But, yeah, I did see the boys were putting on pads. I know. So they told us, the guys told us that they had meetings starting like, it was like last Thursday or something, and they had meetings all weekend and then starting practices like over the weekend, and then this was the first day in full pads. Let's start it off with JJ's throw that we saw on social media. Did anybody else get like just just a little bit aroused?
Starting point is 00:03:27 Or was that just me? Kaelin? Nothing? I mean, don't get me wrong. I saw it and I was like, all right, let the fights begin. You know what I mean? You knew what that was going to do. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Social media. The Instagram comments on that was just like, it was like, QB1, QB1, QB1. Do you think they knew exactly what they were doing? A hundred percent. Let's stir the pot a little bit. A hundred percent. Like, and I wonder if I'm, like, what is Cadecnamara thinking when he like opens up instagram that morning right is he pissed he seems like he's unfaisable but i'm also like nobody's that
Starting point is 00:04:12 unshakable you got to be like looking at social media like these motherfuckers exactly and you want to know the worst part of that was the follow-up post to that was him just handing the ball off that's fucking incredible yeah like that was the that was where i was like oh this is like i know they got a like new uh social media director but he better get on the fucking page like right now do you think he has no fucking clue he's like oh there's a qb battle i mean what's going on here he knows a little bit but like i i highly doubt unless you're super entrenched in michigan football that you like know how big of a deal this is right now for everybody of the qb battle he's just like i just took a couple pictures yeah oh great throw jj like let's post that you know that's all he knows really um yeah i like i feel like you know kade from when we've interviewed him uh through valiant and some other things and
Starting point is 00:05:15 just like i've been around him a lot have you been around him a lot yeah i mean i know him like you're a big deal he's like family to me do you think he would consider you a best friend i he's told me a couple times okay yeah um so i think we'll probably i'll be wearing the number 12 jersey hoodie for sure um so excited for that um and i but in all seriousness, like he really does not give a fuck what people say. Like it is like half of it is a little bit like he's got to say it so that like he, nobody like thinks that they can get to him. But he also like really doesn't care. At the same time that I say that, I do think it's like, it's pissed him off in a good way as well where he's like fuck everybody it's me versus the world at this point and i'm gonna go get it i think that's actually a great attitude to have right like you got to be a guy who's like fine nobody's with me everybody's
Starting point is 00:06:21 against me fine i'm just gonna like prove everyone wrong and like it kind of worked for him this far so like why not i honestly i would love to see kade come out and like beat jj because that means the team would be that much better so 100 i guess to me it's a win win well that that's what i'm thinking too i'm like imagine you're kade dude and you just hear all these people fucking like i want jj being quarterback and jj should be quarterback he's a more talented player like kade can make the simple throws but he can't make the throws that you need to beat ohio state or beat georgia or go to the college football playoff win a national title i mean you think kade's listening to that and like not working his ass off right like i mean that
Starting point is 00:07:02 that's the great thing about this qb battle. Obviously, it sucks for Cade. I wouldn't want to be in it either, but I think he's going to elevate his play to the best he can possibly be times two because he knows JJ's right on his ass. Right. Yeah. I mean, that's how you want your quarterback room to be. I think if you have Joe Burrow in your quarterback room to be you i think is like all right if you have joe burrow
Starting point is 00:07:26 in your quarterback room like senior joe burrow and you're like all right this is our guy we're um you know we're pretty comfortable with him he's coming back and like that's obviously a great position to be in because you know he's a starter you can give him the first team reps at all times but i think there is a sense of comfortability when you are like that where it's like okay i don't have to go all out every rep but right now it's like i i only imagine in practice i haven't been out of practice i'll say that right away but like i only imagine that it's like they feel like they can't fuck up one rep. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm sure they're their own worst critics at this point, right? And I mean, for Cade, he's always compared to a Drew Brees type, right?
Starting point is 00:08:17 He's not super tall. Really? But he's like, that's what they say, right? I think that's a good comparison. They both got good arms. But don't do anything special. Not special, but I think they're not going to scramble and make this unbelievable play.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Nobody's expecting Drew Brees to be Pat Mahomes. Right, exactly. But he's a super hard worker, right? And took Purdue like a 10 win season 11 win season something he's literally one of the probably i don't know top 10 quarterbacks of all time yeah yeah so i mean like all fame that's a great comparison you know if you're you hear people saying that's what you're you know your type. That sounds pretty good to me. Seriously, like, I think that, like, let's take JJ out of the equation. I think that Cade, like, if I was a Michigan fan
Starting point is 00:09:14 and Cade was our only option, I'd be still pretty fucking confident going into this season. Do you think Cade is a – because that kind of takes me back to 2016, right? Like with Wilton Spate. I thought he was a solid quarterback. He was in the NFL. I think signed as a free agent with the Niners.
Starting point is 00:09:34 But he was solid. I think Cade is pretty similar to him, maybe an upgrade. Would you guys agree with that? Or do you think – I mean, I think it's hard not to say Cade's an upgrade from Wilton. Yeah, I mean, I think they're very different. Not really that different, though. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I mean, see – That's an interesting comparison. It is an interesting comparison. You know, when you think about it. Because I think that, like, if you – if Michigan has full-strength Wilton Spate, they win the conference. Well, they beat Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Yeah. 100% beat Ohio State in that game. The dude had one shoulder. Yeah. He had one wing. And even the following year, if Spate doesn't go out at Purdue, then who knows what that team does. I was 1,000% on that John O'Korn train.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Well, after the Purdue game, it was – After the Purdue game, how are you not? We were all shouting John O'Korn. What a bunch of idiots we are. Literally. I mean, so I remember texting back and forth with Troy. I was at the game at Purdue, and we're all like, oh, we're so fucked. Like, who is John O'Korn?
Starting point is 00:10:48 All of a sudden, he throws a touchdown, and he's texting me, O'Korn! O'Korn! And I'm like, holy shit. And I just remember after that game, we're all like, oh, my. This just, like, is the perfect situation. Pure Michigan fans of, like like just being morons and at that time for sure and we still are like just hoping for that one qb and like we're we i will hope it's romantics man we're still there even though kate won us the fucking big 10 right yeah right
Starting point is 00:11:20 but to flip it though i mean like nobody's gonna be pissed if jj wins the spot no like there's there's well there's one person well don shout out don shout out don love you buddy he he will be mad but other than that i think that like to me that just just means that JJ is very clearly better. I agree. I mean, I'm with you. And before we get too far off from when you first spoke, I've never heard somebody say comfortability before. That's the correct way to say it. I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Like, you nailed it. But I'm a comfortability kind of guy. Comfortability? Yeah. I think that might be my issue no i think i've said it like that before i think that's how people say well and then i like went from fourth grade to fifth grade and i've been saying it like the real one i need to put it to that whole is it comfortability or comfortability i don't know google answer our prayers don't know. I just want to shut you off for that. I was just kidding. I don't know shit, but I do think... I definitely have said comfortability before.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I feel like people just roll off people's tongues. Comfortability. And everybody knows what you mean. But you threw me off when you said it correctly. I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? Now that I think about that, though, why would we say it like that? That's not how it's spelled at all. Because the English language is fucked.
Starting point is 00:12:47 You're not wrong. I'm going to be honest. I don't think I've ever said comfortability. Shut the fuck up. You're lying. When would you say that? Well, if you were to say... Well, I'll say comfortable.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Right. Not comfortable. That's a good point. That's what I'm. Well, I'll say comfortable. Yeah. Right. Not comfortable. That's a good point. That's what I'm saying. I'd definitely say comfortable. That's weird. Right? I mean, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:13:13 That's what I'm saying. How do you say? Do you say comfortable? Comfortable. Comfortable. Comfortable. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Well, that's what I'm saying. If you're saying the word, you're saying it. Comfortability. Not spelled out like that. Oh. Comfortable. You know what I'm saying now? I see where you're going.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I think I have said comfortable before, but I think if I'm just talking normally, I'd definitely say comfortable. I'll need John Rota to chime in on this one. He is a teacher. He's a principal. He'll let us know. Smartest man alive. He'll let us know.
Starting point is 00:13:38 What were we talking about? I don't know. Cade and JJ. Cade and JJ. What about it? Because I was going to say something. We were kind of going about JJ. What if JJ wins that? Oh, yeah. Cade and JJ. What about it? Because I was going to say something. We were kind of going about JJ. What if JJ wins out?
Starting point is 00:13:48 Oh, yeah. Nobody's even mad. Yeah. And then also, you know you have a fucking dynamite backup. I mean, that's the thing, right? Honestly, I don't really care who plays quarterback because look at your offensive line and look at your running back. Oh. No matter who's a quarterback is gonna they're gonna thrive that's where i get concerned a little bit at how far this offense can really go and it's not because
Starting point is 00:14:13 they have they don't have the talent or the you know the ability to do it but will they say well we know we can run for 300 yards a game, so we're just going to do that? I mean. I mean, I hope not. That's one-dimensional. But, dude, but then I can totally see Jim sitting there and being like, we fucking beat Ohio State by doing it last year. We'll do it again.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Oh, gosh. But, I mean, also it's like I think you can rely on the run game, right? Like maybe that's your first option. But I think if it's not working, you'd think they'd move away from it. I've also remembered myself being very upset most games because they keep trying to run the ball and they can't fucking do it. But I don't know, man. They've got the nation's best offensive line and arguably the best running back room in the country. So, I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I'd like to see them lean on it. And I'm normally like a pass-first guy. Like, first down, you should be passing the ball. But here's where I'll go back. Like, I'll push back on you a little bit. Is, like, dude, even Ohio State and Alabama in the past five, ten years have had unbelievable running back rooms and offensive lines, they still throw the ball.
Starting point is 00:15:29 And that's how they get their running game so good because they open things up. Because you have to, like, play back. You can't just stack ten in the box. You know what I mean? Well, I mean, I'm also not saying they shouldn't throw the ball. I'm saying, like, shouldn't throw the ball. I'm saying they should throw the ball. But if you're running the ball dominantly, fucking run the ball.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Why would you need to throw it? They have so many weapons, too, on the outside and at running back, for that matter, that they can use. I'm just like, you have to throw the ball to some degree. You have too many weapons not to. Yeah, to focus focus on one aspect of the game which is what makes the offense so dangerous but also what i'm thinking too is if it's not broke don't fix it yeah i feel you you know i that's what i think jim is saying that's what he's probably like yelling that right now right as when there's like when fucking jj goes out and throws a pick or something he's gonna be like why are we fucking running the damn ball i'll be like put your shirt on coach
Starting point is 00:16:30 i don't know dude he's been working out a little bit he looks he looks you know take that bad boy off what you got coach he just the problem is is that he he'll never be tan ever i know he's like me he's like 40 polish 20 german like but even like even on grace harbaugh's tiktoks he's just wearing his like sun shirt at all times white as can be yeah like as pale as could be how about but yeah i mean dude jay's a fucking he's a redhead ginger yeah you know i. I feel like Grace holds herself to a higher standard, got a little bit of tan there. What about James? I think they're all pretty white.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Pretty white? We have some fortunate side effect of being white. Sometimes you're just really white. Well, bringing it back to the offense. What a fucking tangent. Oh, man. Bringing it back to the offense uh both coordinators were talking this week right and i think it was matt weiss who said like um the offense is gonna have like jim's vision or something like that i don't know if you guys saw that quote fill me in um that
Starting point is 00:17:40 was what he said oh that's it's all you That's all you got. He was like, yeah, we got two coordinators now, right, and we're going to work together. But the offense is definitely going to have Jim's vision first. Now, do you think that under Gattis, do you think that was Jim's vision? I think to some degree. I think to a lot of degree, to be honest. I don't think we'll know until this year. Right?
Starting point is 00:18:08 Yeah. How much of it was Gattis? Yeah, that's a good point. Right? I'm scared about that. I'll be just honest. Really? You're negative vibes right now?
Starting point is 00:18:17 I'm not negative vibes. I'm hesitant vibes. Hesitant vibes? I respect hesitant vibes. I'm keeping expectations low so that they can exceed them smart smart i mean listen that's the highest points per game that michigan has put up in like ever except for like denard robinson days which we were giving up 75 points a game, so it didn't fucking matter.
Starting point is 00:18:52 But, like, in an actual successful football season, like, they scored 40 points a game. For us to lose our offensive coordinator, I'm sorry, that scares me. That's a good point. I'm doing, like, four things at once right now. This is fucking awesome. Look at me. Look at me thrive. Look at me thrive. Look at me thrive.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Wow. Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. Producer Jack. Ro, you keep talking because I got the camera on you, but I'm going to look up the point differential from all these games to see if it was more the offense doing well or the defense doing really well. Yeah, I mean, you can look up what our offense scored and like under the like just points per game under the other six seasons of hardball but i just think that like dude scoring
Starting point is 00:19:33 40 points per game is pretty damn good i know college football nowadays is is different you know and like that's not as impressive as it would have been 10 years ago. Although I don't know the last Michigan game I can think of that they won because of their offense. I'm thinking even this past year, Nebraska was almost that game, but they won with a strip from the defense. And I think that's probably the most important component, is being able to win because your offense can score more points than the other team,
Starting point is 00:20:09 not because your defense stopped them. I'll be honest. Think about the Ohio State game. It wasn't the defense. Look at Ohio State's stats. They had 300-yard receivers. They ran the ball for like 39 total yards. They still had 400-some yards, though.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And they still scored 27 points. Yeah, the defense. You know, like you're not winning a game because your defense is letting up 27 points, right? They scored 42. Yeah. So I think that game would be the best example. Well, I felt like that game was more a demonstration of how good the defense was at stopping a really good offense than how good the offense was at like blowing the barn doors off
Starting point is 00:20:50 their defense i agree with that because i think i've looked this up before and i can't pull the stats out of my head right now but like if you'll look at what ohio state averaged in points like it was way more than 27 so that they were they held them under their average by like at least 15 points like two touchdowns yeah but also when you talk about their average i mean look at their playing too right not all the i mean dude they beat michigan state it was 49 nothing at halftime and that's like i've had the worst secondary of all college football i know but like either way like what do you mean we play the same fucking teams dude i know we lost to them i mean i mean i guess you have a point i don't know you make me think too much you make me look
Starting point is 00:21:37 stupid i don't like i'm sorry i'll try to stop making you think drink while you think man yeah i i don't know i mean isn't it crazy that fucking nebraska i think nebraska has held ohio state to the low score of the year yeah wow they really did greatest three and nine team of all time wasn't it like 23 to 26 to 17 wow it's honestly unbelievable did you have you seen their so their points four versus points against exactly the same it's fucking incredible it went three and nine i mean at the very least you gotta go six and six right oh my gosh dude like what do you say if you're scott frost going into camp you know into camp? We're breaking even, baby. Keep doing the same thing, guys.
Starting point is 00:22:28 It's going to happen. I mean, you have to. One of these days we'll tip. One of these days. How do you not, like, I mean, it's like suicide almost. Like, I would be suicidal if I was him because it's just like, oh, my God. I cannot imagine how frustrating. I actually saw Don posted it, actually. There's the video of him at the end of the Michigan game.
Starting point is 00:22:50 And the score is 32-29 with, like, 40 seconds left. And they had just turned it over. And he is just, like, head in his hands, like, rubbing his head beside himself. And I can't imagine. Because he's probably like like we did enough to win that game and that's the 10th time we've done that this year we've lost every fucking game well the unfortunate thing for them obviously not michigan they won the game but that i mean the atmosphere that night in the breath i mean that was an awesome fucking game that was an awesome game can you win that game i mean that's a program 100 victory for them that's like
Starting point is 00:23:32 it's probably not to this extent but that is 2016 michigan ohio state a little bit question for you do um do you think michigan wins out if they lose that game? When? What? What point of the year was that? Let me look this up. Relatively middle. Was that before Michigan State?
Starting point is 00:23:57 Yeah, I think so. Yeah. It was game one, two, three, four, five, six. Six. Okay. Do they then cash it in? Nebraska or Michigan? four, five. Six. Six, okay. Do they then cash it in? Nebraska or Michigan? No, Michigan. Not cash it in, but like if they lose that game.
Starting point is 00:24:15 If Michigan loses that game, you think they cash it in? I'm not going to say cash it in, but do they go? Would they? No, because I think they'd play. Nine and two. Or nine and three i mean i mean they'd play northwestern they would be home against northwestern after a bye week so they win that by 100 you think so and then they go into sparty that would have been interesting
Starting point is 00:24:38 i really do because here's my take on that i think that losing a game in the big 10 that early is really tough because then you're you're just thinking like gotta be perfect for like a six game stretch here right after msu it was like a three game stretch four game stretch maybe and that's huge from last year because they had like an Aiden Hutchinson like ultra team leader but like with those kind of guys gone now like what do you guys think is somebody's you know taking that spot is it like an approach by committee what do you think I think somebody has to man yeah I think that's where we got to talk to these guys and see who they you know thinks gonna take it because I, look at the defense, right?
Starting point is 00:25:26 Like, who's going to be that guy? Maybe Junior Colson? Yeah, but, like, I mean, as a sophomore, that's really tough. He's such a goofball. I can't see it. Mike? He's not, like, a passionate. I think Barrett, maybe?
Starting point is 00:25:38 Yeah, but he's a fifth-year guy, but he's also not a starter. No offense to our guy, Mike, but he's but he's like not like the the guy on the defense i feel like we're gonna feel real stupid in a second because we're gonna be like fuck could be that oh what about uh it's gonna be turner i think it's gonna be like turner in the back or like a mike mo in the front oh fuck Moe. I forgot he was returning before I came back. Or fucking Upshaw. Taylor Upshaw. Or... Mozzie Smith.
Starting point is 00:26:10 No, not Mozzie. Who's the other end? Walsh off? No. Fuck. Taylor Upshaw, I thought, was the other end. Oh, who's the other one? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Chris Jenkins. Jenkins. Oh, Jenkins, yeah. So we interviewed him on TNT, and he definitely seemed like he was the leader. He's a goofball, too. Huge personality. Really? Yes, very funny dude.
Starting point is 00:26:39 But I think when it comes down to it, he's great. Means business, right? But I think having a big personality is part of it. What about Mike Saner still, like both ways kind of guy? I'll be honest, dude. We talked to him in the Kaiho Green. He could be a guy. Oh, there you go.
Starting point is 00:26:54 The guy could be. But, dude, Mike, he's pretty soft-spoken. Really? He's a quiet dude. Respects his privacy, likes his privacy, and that kind of stuff. Okay. I don't know. Maybe he's a silent. He could be like a lead-by-example kind of stuff. I don't know. Maybe he's a silent.
Starting point is 00:27:05 He could be like a lead by example kind of guy. Oh, okay. Because, I mean, he's working both sides of the ball, and he was a beast on offense last year. And now he's going to play DB? I don't know. He's on both sides of the glass. I think that's kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Older guy, both sides. Might be a good example guy. You're right. I'll be honest with you. So he told me, like, I hope so. When I asked him, will we see you on the offensive side of the ball, he said, I hope so with you so he told me like i hope so when i asked him will we see you on the offensive side of the ball he said i hope so that's his answer mild to me i thought he was one of the best receivers on the team but i i think that it's if there was a need for him at
Starting point is 00:27:39 receiver they would play him both ways there's not need. I think that room is already too crowded, and the secondary has a need. So I think that's why they made the move. He's just so athletic. He's athletic to a fault. Yeah. Like, literally. They don't know what to do with him. Yeah, they don't know what to do with him.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Fuck it. You're too good. You're too athletic that we need you more in defense than we need you on offense. Yeah. It's a good problem to have, I guess. Did you guys see, who was it? I think DJ Turnerer they were talking about he might be the fastest guy on the team was that something was that him or somebody else i thought it was harbaugh harbaugh in the trenches
Starting point is 00:28:15 rod moore said he himself yeah maybe it was rod who am i thinking of clayton safe he was tweeting out like every single fucking quote from in the trenches podcast yes shout out to him he must listen to every podcast ever because even when we put stuff out, he'll put it straight out. He listens to us too. So shout out, Clayton. Shout out, Clayton. Love you, dude. He put something. I can't remember who they said was the fastest guy on the team, but it wasn't Roman Wilson
Starting point is 00:28:37 because I remember them saying that Roman was right there with the guy. I think it was DJ Turner. Might be. I've heard that Roman pretty much blows everybody out of the water. Yeah. Well, who was the other guy that I think Rob was telling us, so it was pretty quick. I think it was other than DJ Turner.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Keon? Sab? Oh, really? Was that it? Or maybe somebody else? I'm blanking on the name right now. That's who Bryce said that he thinks Keon Sab might start by the end of the year oh right i keep seeing like good things about uh will johnson as well i think will johnson's gonna start day one yeah and that's expected yeah i mean
Starting point is 00:29:15 five star dude imagine him just being like a fucking dog i'm pretty sure he's going to be and dax hill 2.0 well that's what i'm thinking is like because like dax was like pretty i feel like pretty chill dude again like kind of like mikey you know it's kind of like likes his privacy kind of does his own thing chills out um but i feel like will johnson kind of has a little bit of attitude to him not like too much he's got a little bit of swag to him he does i mean super nice dude though like. Right, yeah. Very respectful and nice. But I asked him and Amarion Walker, freshman wide receiver. What do you got on him? He weighs about 120 pounds, soaking wet.
Starting point is 00:29:58 How tall is he? He's very tall. I was going to say, he looks pretty big in those fucking pictures. I don't think he's going to crack much playing time right now. He will be a star at Michigan. I promise you that. He's a big dude. I think that if you give it 2023 or 2024,
Starting point is 00:30:15 it's going to be Amarian Walker and Darius Clements, and we're going to have two big dudes on each side. And it's going to be, if J.J. is still there, or even a Davis Warren is going to be, if JJ's still there or even a Davis Warren, is going to be fucking awesome. Or a Jaden Davis if he comes. Maybe. Might need to get some money bags for that one.
Starting point is 00:30:34 We'll see. We'll work on that. Yeah, Blue by 90 NIL deals. Let's go. We got to hook up with Jaden. Absolutely. Right now, including the freshmen, who do you think are the top five receivers on the team?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Because for me, I've got Darius Cummins on my top five. No question. Big physical dude. He showed out at the spring game. Obviously, I'm a hype guy. You and the rest of the entire Michigan fan base. He could be the worst player of all time.
Starting point is 00:31:01 I'm like, no, he should be the fucking best. Dub chart coming soon on blueby90.com. Yeah, I saw that. Yep. Waiting for that. There's too many guys now that I'm just like, oh, that guy could be good. That guy could be good. I'm just like losing track.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I'm going to give you my... Should we start at five and go to one? Should it be a snake draft? I like a snake draft. Let's do it. Do you guys know what that is? I still don't understand it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Let me draw you a snake. Snake. Snake. I'm a slithery snake. Oh, my God. Kale, remember when I laughed in your face when you said Ronnie Bell was going to be a top five wide receiver? Remember that? Fucking COVID, dude.
Starting point is 00:31:47 We had two listeners then. Oh, man. I forgot all about that. AG was out there clicking play. No, no, no, no. We had three because you were there, too. I think it was us. I don't know if Nate was still on the pod at that point.
Starting point is 00:32:01 We were talking like top five receivers or something. Oh, I remember that. And I was like, oh, I remember when he dropped the pass to Penn State like a fucking idiot. Because I'm a fucking idiot, clearly. If you've listened to this long enough, you know that. If you've tried to read anything that I've tried to write, you would know that. I don't know, dude. I feel like blueby90.com has put me in the spotlight of being an idiot.
Starting point is 00:32:23 And now I'm just talking to myself. That's a good one. Maybe out there is listening. and I appreciate you listening. Oh, I forgot about this. And I don't even know if the guys are here. All right, you ready? Oh, yeah, I'm ready. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:32:34 There's so many guys, honestly. All right, at number five for me. Wait, are we doing snake draft? Yeah. Top five. Top five. Well, there's only so many. How many guys?
Starting point is 00:32:48 Let's do top three. I don't think we can do a snake draft. Just do your top five, and then we'll do our top five. All right. Sounds good. I'm just listing all five right now? Yeah. Let's go with it.
Starting point is 00:33:00 It'll be too confusing. Yeah, we don't need to do five to one. We're already confusing ourselves. Yeah, I know. I'm going to go at five. I've had two confusing. Yeah, we don't need to find one. We're already confusing ourselves. Yeah, I know. I'm going to go at five. I've had two beers. I don't know if I can fucking. This is going to be interesting, but senior Cornelius Johnson at five.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Is he senior? Yep. Senior. Fuck. He might be the most underappreciated receiver in that wide receiver. But here's my, this is going to be negative vibes take. I think he gets passed up by some younger guys this year. I'll be honest.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I would say that's a positive vibe spin. Because that means our younger guys are good. Youngers are good. Yeah. I'll take that. I'm going to go at four. I'm going to go at four. I'm going to go Roman Wilson. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I think Roman is fast as shit, but I just don't like, I don't know. It's hard to see that he's like that impact guy. You know what I mean? So we'll see. He's competing with some of those Georgia DBs. He's super fast. I mean, like, so so he can if he can get open but right um i just don't like unless he's gotten i want to see him more physical this year i'd love to i'm with you at three i've got aj henning okay i think he's versatile i think he can play kind of all over the
Starting point is 00:34:22 place maybe even get into that wide back. At two, I think this is Andrell Anthony's year. I think it's going to be they throw it out to him a lot, and it's going to be exciting. And then I think at one, it's that one dude, Ronnie Bell. Got to be. Okay. Kalen, what do you got?
Starting point is 00:34:42 I like it. Anybody heard of Zach Petersonerson is he a football player or golfer i'm just kidding shout out zach peterson i'm just reading off the roster um if you want an ild i'll just hit us up oh hell yeah um yeah i'm kind of right there with you kind of at the start of your list. Number five, Cornelius Johnson. For me, number four would be like A.J. Henning. Then Roman Wilson. Then I would go Andrell and then Ronnie. It's pretty close.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Yeah. He just had what, A what, AJ and Roman switched. Say that top five ago. What did I say? Cornelius Johnson and then, what did I say? AJ Henning, Roman, Andrel, and Ronnie. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I'm definitely going to have a different list from you guys. Okay. All right. Oh, you just did top five. We didn't do it in order. I forgot. So, top five. Okay. All right. So, oh, you just did top five. We didn't do it in order. I forgot. So, top five. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah. Do you guys have Darius Cummins in there? Both of you? Neither of you? No. Okay. Darius Cummins, obviously. He's five.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Clemens, Ronnie. Is this in no particular order? Yeah. Okay. Got it. Darius Cummins, Ronnie Bell, Cornelius Johnson. We did ours in order. Yeah. I thought we were not doing it five to one oh um okay well um let's do i'm gonna go roman at five okay um aj at four Cornelius Johnson at three Darius Clemens at two
Starting point is 00:36:31 Ronnie Bell at one No Andrel Fuck! Let me start over We're gonna go AJ Henning at five Cornelius Johnson at four Andrel at three EJ Henning at five. Cornelius Johnson at four. Andrele at three.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Darius Cummins at three. Andrele at two. Ronnie Bell at one. No Roman. No Roman. Okay. No Roman. I mean, think about it.
Starting point is 00:37:00 No Roman. That's crazy. I mean, he probably had the least amount of touches last year, right? All I'm saying. Really? I'm not saying he's not good. I'm just saying this room is stacked. I would love to have Mike Stammer still in there. I know.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yeah. You literally moved Mike Stammer still to the other side of the ball because of this. Right. That's wild. Think about this. We can barely name our top five because they're all right there and so talented. If we're going five wide every play right like right what how would you how insane is that so i i actually i was thinking
Starting point is 00:37:33 about this the other day and this is like an a stupid thought and this is like if this got out sounds like you have a lot if this got out out on a headline or something, we'd probably get torn apart on Twitter. So this will be my article that I write tomorrow? Yeah. But is too much talent at one position group a problem? No. Kind of. That means you over-recruited it, right?
Starting point is 00:37:56 You should have spent time getting other areas of your team that are weak, right? I think it's all conditional, right? Let's say your privacy room is stacked and your dbs are ass then yeah you over recruited it michigan state what is that yeah transfer you can you say it again i i the spartans of uh east lansing yeah although it should be noted that um roman Roman Wilson had three touchdowns last year. That's not a lot. That's what I'm saying. It's not a lot.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Yeah, but I'll say this. We didn't throw a lot of touchdowns either. He also had 420 yards. Does this get us back into the QB competition? You think if JJ is the quarterback? There is one clip that I love that somebody picked out of just fucking. Yeah. Did you see that on Twitter?
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah. Let's break it down right now you can pull it up me trying to fucking we'll see yeah we'll see how your producer skills are to see if you can throw like 45 things if you can throw this into the end i hope you're watching this where the fuck are you i need your help he's probably got faster horses still yeah he's like dude it's fucking ended but i'm still fucking there i haven't heard from him in a while i told him it's a shotgun video of him and doug oh geez yeah he's on vacay still i don't know probably um what am i pulling up the cade um oh that was a throw from the ohio state game i can't pull or no from. I'll try to find it before.
Starting point is 00:39:26 From the Big Ten Championship. But yeah, what? It was like three guys wide open deep. I think it was more so two guys were wide open deep that he could have thrown to and he dumped it down to Eric Hall or some shit. Also, Eric Hall. Imagine going five
Starting point is 00:39:41 wide. You have him at tight end. Empty backfield. Him and Schoonmaker. According to, I really do believe, Jim. So, all right. We got a lot to talk about here. So much. This is great.
Starting point is 00:39:54 We're only 40 minutes in. And this is a great video. I think we can just fucking roll with it. I mean, PMT has like two hours. Who fucking cares? I'm down. We're basically PMT. I mean, our views are the same
Starting point is 00:40:06 well the rumor is that they get paid like you know a hundred thousand dollars an episode we're right there dude we're pretty close i mean we get paid like a hundred thousand like one hundred thousandths of a penny every time we record if that yeah it's pretty pretty i do need to re-record that ad on oh we can do that tonight yeah let's do that um all right wide receivers no seriously though is it like well i'm just saying how like okay how do you get all those guys into the game and get everybody happy. Not only just keep the culture good, but also... I could redo my whole top five right now. Also... You don't have Donovan Ebert's top five?
Starting point is 00:40:51 Oh my god. Fuck. Think about that. I seriously think there's an argument for too much talent. This isn't even like basketball where you have like... I can't wait for us to write an article about this and just get fucking roasted. I hope so.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I believe in it. I will defend it. I'll defend it to the death. We got Kaelin. You're working hard over there. You look swole. Your form looks swole in the camera right now. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:41:21 You're jerking off a lot. I'm paying attention. All right. Here's another topic since we'll we'll go back to the wide receivers in another episode or something yeah i mean we'll have plenty of plenty of time to talk about that can we talk about jim harbaugh's comments on in the trenches and he literally zach shaw put that put it out there he named he name dropped over 60 players in one episode. That's fucking incredible.
Starting point is 00:41:47 He's got to just have the depth chart. You think it's in his contract? You got to name drop these guys on this podcast and you get a bonus. I don't know. It's like fucking super troopers. Can you get away with saying meow? How many times do you have to say meow, right? We'll give you a thousand dollars for every
Starting point is 00:42:05 name you can right without making it sound weird how many like nil deals do you think are like now associated with player names where he's like yeah giving the ball to uh blake quorum brought to you by arby's that would be incredible i would fucking love that oh Blake Corum has like, he changes his name to Corum by Arby's. So, Corum by Arby's with the carry. I bet there's, I mean. There's going to be some stupid shit like that. You know what I do love is the coldest Crawford. He's not at Bama anymore.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Where is he? No, I think he's at Tennessee or something like that. He's at a smaller school, but he teamed up with the air conditioning system. Yep, we did that out. That's not at Bama anymore. Where is he? No, I think he's at Tennessee or something like that. He's at a smaller school, but he teamed up with the air conditioning system. That's fucking genius. The best NIL deal I've ever seen. These kids nowadays are going to be the best entrepreneurs because they're forced to be.
Starting point is 00:42:56 They're like, oh, I can... They have an opportunity. They're business owners because they own their name, image, likeness. And they can be creative. I think this is great for development of young men and women that's a spin zone because everyone else thinks that like you're corrupting a kid at 16 is that the on their bright side is that the on the bright side that i'm gonna have i like that a lot i do also i was thinking about it you know how hot um big cat pft do like
Starting point is 00:43:23 the fastest two minutes pft yeah yeah you're right sorry i was thinking like fastest 90 seconds oh we did have somebody on twitter that wasn't very happy we did have somebody on twitter wasn't very happy about uh the maze wall they said you got to be original can't copy other people yeah fuck twitter i didn't say to to root for barusha dortman at the michigan game you idiot no no they were saying like we can't do the maze wall because they already do it you know what hey we should stop playing uh football because everyone else plays football yeah like shut up we can't play in the seven nation army then sure yeah everybody else does it
Starting point is 00:44:00 you know a guy who did that and the other guy who liked it fuck you here's what i'll say too um very passionate about the maze wall the i'm all about it pump it up now is played at the tigers at the everywhere like we're i mean did we do that i hope people know we're running it back i just can't wait for people to hear the first kickoff song oh my god it's gonna be sexy incredible this if you're listening to this right now this is we're not gonna give you what it is but we've been talking to the specialists as you know we're we're good friends with the the kickers big special teams guys and the new kickoff song it's probably not gonna be every kickoff but there's gonna be at least one kickoff in every game that has this song before it absolute fire it's gonna it's gonna be fucking insane yeah it's gonna be ridiculous
Starting point is 00:44:51 and then when when it happens you gotta come back and tell us you gotta credit us oh have to it'll make the pump it up videos when people like tagged us in it and sent it we have a whole highlight i mean we have like we need to run like, 50 videos or something from that. Like, it's pretty incredible. Like, that's pretty fucking cool. That was probably the coolest moment of my life. I mean, that was fucking incredible. Single-handedly.
Starting point is 00:45:16 I mean, dude, fucking shout-out Joel. Shout-out all the guys that claim they fucking brought it, you know? Shout-out Ryan. It's very controversial about who brought pump it up to ann arbor that's a good point but i said we credit us and ryan like players you know i think joel joel would be the one but like mike barrett says that it was him i know you know i don't know man i don't know either. Are you team Joel or team Mike? Wait. All right.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Going back to Harbaugh's comment. Let me get another beer, too. This one or the other one? I'll try that one. Voodoo Ranger? I'll try that one. We should do some taste tests. We should. I was doing those over COVID.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Oh, hey, buddy. Here's the crack. I remember that. Oh, yeah. You got to do the crack, dude. It's not fair. Oh, my God. That is my dog, rose asshole say what's up dude that's hopefully you want to say go blue
Starting point is 00:46:12 dude you're just fucking crazy um all right hard boss comments comments. Here's my thing. I love Jim, right? If Jim could stay out of the news again, that would be fucking fantastic. That'd be nice. But anyways, can he just give a direct answer? I don't know if you guys listen to the In the Trenches. Make me fucking laugh. I don't know if you guys listen to the love the in the trenches fucking laugh i don't he's just like so john jansen who is the man by the way like really i really wish you'd get rid
Starting point is 00:46:51 of the goatee and just do a straight mustache yes 100 he'd have incredible mustache oh he would be a motherfucker yeah and i do dirty things to that guy well what what pause all right i'm moving on um i think that uh like i'm just so jansen would be like so you know who have you seen that stood out on the offensive line and he just names the whole the entire fucking roster and i'm like and then like every backup as well who's like vying for a spot on the starting offense i love that though that's like him like trying to hide his depth chart. He's just like, oh yeah, everybody's fucking good. And also, it gives
Starting point is 00:47:30 your players, you know, it might be a false sense of confidence, but it gives them confidence. That's huge. I get it. Why do you hate that Jim is trying to pump his players up? That's not what I said. You might be the most negative person I've ever met. I'm just asking for him to say...
Starting point is 00:47:47 It was a great beer, I guess. It's pretty good. I like it a lot. I'm going to get pretty drunk tonight. Hard Knocks, 10 p.m. 10 p.m., Hard Knocks. I'm pretty excited about that. I just want him to say something interesting.
Starting point is 00:48:03 I know that's his whole MO, is that he's not going to give anything away but like right give me something you know i don't know be more specific i mean he's the guy who was like we're going in the submarine so like i don't expect him to to say anything yeah you know what real you know i've decided you're like that that girlfriend right it's like oh let's go out to dinner it's like where do you want to go i don't know they You know what, Ro? You know what I've decided? You're like that girlfriend, right? It's like, oh, let's go out to dinner. It's like, where do you want to go? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:30 You want to go to Applebee's? No. You want to go to Outback? No. You got to be specific. You got to tell me what you want. You got to tell Harbaugh what you want him to say. I got to tell him what I want? I mean, you're the voice of Michigan football now.
Starting point is 00:48:44 That's not quite true. Dude, you have like three to four to 12 podcasts that you talk about Michigan football. It's true. Shout out to A-Row. It's funny. All right, what else we got here? I mean, camp's continuing on.
Starting point is 00:49:00 I'm excited for what's to come here. We've got more content coming out on blueby90.com as well. More merch coming out possibly soon, too. So I'm excited for that. There's some stuff going on behind the scenes here. Do we want to tease the tailgate a little bit? Ooh, we have teased it a little bit, I think. Have we?
Starting point is 00:49:19 Very slightly. Might as well do it every episode. Yeah, I mean, we've got a lot going on with the tailgate. Turf is going in right now. So we'll have a turfed lot. We will have... The teaser for this week is Slow's Barbecue. We're going to have some Slow's Barbecue.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Is that a teaser or announcement? I didn't know that. That sounds awesome. Sweet. Yeah. We're going to have Slow's Barbecue as the food truck there. I'm the crowd standing right here. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Dude, you know what I fucked around with? I'm going to do this. All right. You guys won't be able to hear it, but the listeners will. We have an applause track. No. Applause track? I got a fucking smooth jazz. be able to hear but the listeners will there's like a we have like an applause track no applause track i got like a fucking smooth jazz oh i like that can you hear this and then a laugh track like a oh we can like add that in there we can have four things that i can add in and just like play
Starting point is 00:50:21 throughout the fuck so one of them should definitely be a classic of Ro going, Jim Hawbaugh. Oh, fuck. I forgot about that. That is a classic. That was from 2020, honestly. That's like, yeah, when we first started. Fucking COVID, dude. COVID season.
Starting point is 00:50:37 All right. Yeah, I don't really have anything else besides camp. Yeah, I mean, we'll have a lot more content coming out for camp here. I'm excited for what's going on um it's it's almost fucking football season we're at this point where summer's almost done but we're almost a football it's like a bittersweet moment yeah it is i don't know i'm a i'm a big fall guy man yeah because you don't like the heat. You don't like to take your shirt off.
Starting point is 00:51:07 It's hot. Yeah, that's true. But next year, dude, we're shooting for 2022. You're 100% A. 2023. 2023. We're shooting for 2023. I just want to be fit by the time I'm 30.
Starting point is 00:51:17 I got time. You got time. I got two birthdays to go. I'll be honest with you. Not to be negative vibes here. Really? Shocking. It's all downhill.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Both his knees are broke. Like, his back hurts. He woke up 30. I'm 30 and married now. And it's like, I mean, it gets tougher every day. I'll tell you that. And then you bring in. You tell me this guy's like, oh, I'm married now.
Starting point is 00:51:43 He's been married for a fucking, like, a month. I've been married for two years. This guy's trying to tell me how what marriage is like. She's going to fucking ask you to do the dishes now. It's fucking awful. You're talking about the dishwasher. Oh, here she comes. H-Town, make an appearance.
Starting point is 00:51:58 You're talking about when you possibly throw kids into the mix and everything. It's tough. You do have fucking calves. Like, you know, I mean, when you possibly throw kids into the mix and everything, like, it's tough. There's just like... I mean, you do have fucking calves. So, yeah, you're basically a pro at being fucking married and being a parent right now. Tell me more. Tell me more about what I need to know. Tell me more about what I need to know.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Yeah. I mean, after you get married, you just like, you just don't understand. It's just like... Oh, shit. Jesus Christ. I mean, that got me. I, shit. Jesus Christ. I mean, that got me. I mean, that got me. This ring just weighs you down.
Starting point is 00:52:31 It does. That's why I don't wear it at home. Ball and chain. Don't wear it at home. Man. Must be terrible. All right, well, if you're a fucking idiot, if you're listening to this, don't listen to anything he fucking says ever. Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, at Blue by 90 Podcast on YouTube.
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