Blue By Ninety - BIG TEN CHAMPS... AGAIN

Episode Date: December 6, 2022

Michigan defends its big ten championship belt, playoff matchups are announced, what is a horned frog? ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a presentation of Blue by 90. Find us on Twitter at Blue by 90 and shop the merchandise at Blueby90shop.com. This is the University of Michigan. Touchdown, Michigan! That's the beat of Michigan ball! And they're going extra fast. And it goes to the wind!
Starting point is 00:00:23 The three-pointer by Jordan Poole! Down the sideline! Peebles-Jones! Touchdown, Wolverines! Alright, welcome back to Blue by 90. I'm Justin, joined by Jack and Kaitlin as always. It is the second week of December, and Michigan went back to back. Put up the Drake meme.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Let's go. We're going back to back. Do we even get excited about Big Ten championships anymore? I mean, it's just such a regular thing at this point. Yeah, right. It's our second home, Indy. I know. Indy Southwest.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I like Indy, man. Indy's a great city. I could get used to it. I could get used to going to Indy Southwest. I like Indy, man. Indy's a great city. I could get used to it. I could get used to going to Indy. Like, that's where, like, I know Ohio State fans probably got pretty comfortable there. I get it. I get it. It's a great town.
Starting point is 00:01:17 It's incredible. It is. Dude, the only thing that bothered me is I tried to get it back into Brothers, like, after the game and they wouldn't let me in because I wasn't wearing pants. I wasn't wearing pants that had a belt loop. It's a premium establishment.
Starting point is 00:01:32 I was wearing my classy sweats. They let me in earlier. Oh, God. That's just a rule I wish they would change. That's all I ask. The other places we went to, it was a great time. It was a game day, right? Right. What do you expect? Yeah, that's change. That's all I ask. But the other places we went to, it was a great time. Great people. It was a game day, right? Right. What do you expect?
Starting point is 00:01:48 Yeah, that's wild. But obviously, it's... A classic establishment. Way too classy for you, dude. But I liked it. I liked it when we went there before the game. That was great. Before the tailgate. I wish we were inside a little bit more, brothers.
Starting point is 00:02:05 So here's the thing. I don't know about how everyone. What? I just burned the shit out of my mouth. Okay, thanks. Yeah, we all needed to know that. Thank you for interrupting me on that. Really got to paint a picture, you know?
Starting point is 00:02:16 Yeah. The brothers last year was, like, even more bumping than it was this year. I think it was because Iowa fans showed out way more than Purdue fans did this year. Yeah, not a huge showing from Purdue fans. Like, I don't know. Kalen, what's up with that? Maybe just smaller alumni base.
Starting point is 00:02:38 I guess. And half the alumni is, like, actually fans of other schools, like yourself. Yeah, that's right. I'll take it. Yeah. Yeah, I feel that. They're a basketball school. They're a basketball school. like actually fans of other schools like yourself yeah that's that's right i'll take it yeah yeah i feel that um they're a basketball school they're basketball school that's right yeah um yeah i don't know i mean either way it wasn't it's not really a knock on them it just like i
Starting point is 00:02:56 was just was crazy last year and they i was like eight and five and they were like talking shit to us like when they were gonna like knock us off and i was like bro uh yeah they ain't gonna have corn and football dude that's what they live for love it so but i mean ultimately indy great city it is it is very fun you know what i this is so like i've turned like in reality into snobby michigan fan thousand percent like i would love to experience indy if it was like a top 10 matchup or something in the big 10 championship game because we haven't been able to do that when's the last time that happened what like 2017 wisconsin were they top 10 then yeah probably i don. I don't know. I don't know. It happened a few times, I feel like, with like – It's only been Wisconsin that's been a top 10 team
Starting point is 00:03:49 or even ranked team coming out of the West to go into the title game. I mean, Michigan State and Wisconsin went back-to-back. Big T, if you can look that up and find out who the last top 10 ranked team to come out of the West was for the Big Ten title game. Let me know. Definitely has to be Wisconsin that late in the season. I think it's got to be. Yeah. Well, I'm saying, like, back in the Leaders and Legends days,
Starting point is 00:04:14 like Michigan State and Wisconsin went, like, those were, like, top 10 teams going at it, I felt like. Yeah. Or Michigan State, Nebraska, Michigan State, Iowa. 2014, 15? Yeah. i thought it was just after that i don't know i i think the big 10 championship started in 14 i think michigan state was in the first one no because maybe i'm wrong this is a wild story and you probably don't want me to get into it right now but i know for a fact it was 2011.
Starting point is 00:04:48 They had the Big Ten title game. Okay, sounds good. I don't know if that was the first one or not. Wisconsin 2011, number 10. Is that it? There you go. Nice. That is impressive.
Starting point is 00:04:59 He's our Jamie. Jamie? That's the Joe Rogan reference for those of you. Okay. He's our Hank. He's our Hank. okay my my he's our hank my point he's our jake marsh there he's our marsh yeah he's he's jake billy and hank all in one person incredible that's a lot of talent a lot of talent a lot of talent um the i what my point is i would love to go there for like a top tier game i think if michigan was like in like a crazy game and it's you know it's for like both teams have a spot in the playoff or even just like a top 10 top 15 like a respectable west team like that's all i want so what you're gonna do realigning in the big 10 championship is not a big game it is but i want it to be a competitive more hype around it yeah like the sec title game
Starting point is 00:05:51 or something we're not hype about winning big 10 championships i know that's why i said that's why i said i'm i'm i'm a thousand percent becoming the snobby michigan fan already like for real um disgust me i'm just like two years ago i would be like i would love to see the spot of somebody who walked in lucas oil i mean five wisconsin yeah like and now i'm like i'm like oh you know just it's just a big 10 title can you make it more difficult please so so quickly it turns so quickly it turns we are such assholes i i understand why people hate us like the fan base in general i think for sure i get it but you know what the game wasn't like one no i agree i thought purd Purdue played probably their best game of the year.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Yeah. I mean, Michigan played a classic Michigan game, right? Up by one at half. And then in the fourth quarter, just ran away with it. First half is practice. If we're within three points at half of any of these playoff games, I'm just chalking it up as a win. You just have
Starting point is 00:07:02 to assume what's going to happen. I mean, that's what's so fascinating to me about this TCU matchup because they're similar in a way where they're like a big-time second-half team. Yeah. And so I'm like, is this just going to be like cardiac arrest for me? Oh, God. I hope they are like that. First half is pretty pretty like low level moderate
Starting point is 00:07:28 scoring whatever and then second half is just a fucking explosion of excitement left and right oh my god i produce a purdue game obviously the ohio state game was exciting because it was ohio state and because donovan's too. I mean, because of the big plays, I guess. But like that – It wasn't back and forth. Especially in the first half, it was like that was back and forth. That was one of the more exciting games Michigan's played all year. I mean, it was similar to a lot of the other games they played, right,
Starting point is 00:08:01 where it's like, oh, they're down by three at half or like – Actually, it kind of reminded me of ohio state a little bit like it was back and forth they scored we scored they got to stop that we kicked a field goal like that kind of thing and then you're gonna just keep slurping your coffee well that's why like i didn't really realize it until like it was so close i tried to move the mic away when I did it. I mean, my God. My mom is going to be so mad at you. I'm sorry, Sue. You got rid of the burping. Sue just followed me on Instagram
Starting point is 00:08:32 the other day. She unfollowed you? She just followed me. I would have died if she unfollowed you. I've officially passed the vibe check with Sue. Like four years in. I know. I'm proud of you. I Like four years in. I know. I'm proud of you.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I'm proud of you. Thank you. You're just graduating. We're slowly curing your idiosyncrasies here. Yes. Okay, so I thought let's break down the game some more. I did think Purdue played well. I think they're a pretty solid team.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Like that team shouldn't be 7-5 in the West. I don't think. The defense ultimately was bad in the end, but I thought the defense... I don't think our offense played awesome. I thought they played well. They made enough plays, obviously,
Starting point is 00:09:20 to pull away at the end, but it wasn't a flawless game by any means. No, not a flawless game at all. I mean, I think we saw some nice throws out of JJ that we wanted to see just to make Michigan fans feel a little bit more comfortable about his passing game. And Dono just reinstated the fact that he's a fucking baller. And if he was a starter this year, he'd be the Heisman.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Certified baller. Dude, he is the best running back in the country. He runs so hard. There were a couple of those times. Get him an OV fans. I know. There were a couple of those times in the first half. It was actually before we started running the ball well.
Starting point is 00:10:01 But Purdue was smacking. And he would just run head first. And it would just be like. Oh, dude. And that one guy he juked oh my god yeah oh my god that was beautiful he showed that he's not just this like we're i was we were listening to either a uh pre-game show or something and like some of the guys that were talking were just like you they've clearly never seen donovan edwards run a football before yeah like oh yeah he's more of like the uh the speed guy like he he's not as physical and um he's not he doesn't read the whole he's not as like patient as blake core he's not like yeah like this guy's never seen donovan edwards run
Starting point is 00:10:42 the ball ever in his entire fucking life dude remember remember when we said that people said that about Corum when it was Haskins and then Corum proved to be the physical guy too oh yeah thunder and lightning yeah yeah yeah and then not but but Blake that fucking what was it 30-yard touchdown he's just pinballing around on fucking people and running people over dragging them into the end zone yeah i i think i think um it's pretty fucking sick that we just had donovan edwards to put in there like that is that is some true like sec type stuff where it's like it's like, we have our Heisman finalists out? Let us put in our five-star backup.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Let me put in Derrick Henry. It felt like Alabama a little bit, right? When they just had that stable running backs. Except our backup to Donovan Edwards is linebacker Kalel Mullings. Who's crushing it. I love it. But why is J. Stokes not running i don't know he must be hurt
Starting point is 00:11:49 or something gotta be i don't know short yardage man but i could love it dude it's great you did have two who who would have predicted like if you could have had the end of september been like in the big 10 championship game colal mulling's going to have two PD. That's like plus a million in the, in the futures bet. What a prop bet. Yeah. That's yeah. That's pretty awesome.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I mean, I will say like, we kind of talk about it, but it truly is next man up. Like nobody gives a shit who's doing it. And like, I'm like, It truly is next man up. Nobody gives a shit who's doing it. And there are a lot of young guys that showed out on Saturday that stepped right up and felt like they belonged
Starting point is 00:12:32 without any hesitation. Oh, yeah. And what? Will Johnston, two picks? Two picks. He had a nice little diving catch for one of them. Colston with a touchdown. Colston Loveland.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Probably the best touchdown. Making guys transfer. You heard Dono talk about that. Dono in the interview after, he's like, Colston Loveland, awesome people. Yeesh. Oh, yeah. I could see that.
Starting point is 00:12:59 There's nothing better than Donovan Edwards on the mic, man. Nothing better. He's an electric factory. It's just so funny, too, because, like, him and JJ are best friends and live together, but there couldn't be more polar opposite, like, on the mic. Like, JJ is this, like, little guy that's just like, I'm going to be so proper and like a schoolboy.
Starting point is 00:13:19 The Donovan's like, what up? Just happy to be here. Oh, man. I was talking to Kalen about it. I feel bad. Obviously, we love having J.J. quarterback, but I'm like, fuck, man. I want to see Davis play. I know.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I want to see our guy. I wish they would have put him in for a series at the end. They did? I wish they would have. You wish they would have? Yeah. Dude, because he's nasty, too. He's just as athletic as J as jj and he can kind of
Starting point is 00:13:45 sling it around a little bit yeah i don't see him getting a game qb competition next year who knows i'll start it we'll start that let's start some drama i'll write one article every four years and that is the one that i choose for uh for next year the the uh Twitter fear doesn't have enough drama as in what happened today. Jesus fucking Christ, man. I almost had to delete Twitter for a fucking day. It's brutal. I will say
Starting point is 00:14:15 you can't just drop, if you're Eric Hall, you can't just drop that grenade and walk out and not expect people to be like that. Oh, dude, I hate when people do that or they'll like say something like oh yeah i know this is gonna happen but i can't say what it is or who told me i'm like okay you're fishing for fucking people to ask you exactly that but you're putting that shit out anyway like fuck off but eric oh yeah that was interesting it was interesting
Starting point is 00:14:42 he did it the way he did it. There's some drama there for something. I don't know what it is, but, like, there's something. And also, wish him the best. I mean, he's going to be a star wherever. I thought he was just going to choose to go to the NFL. That's what I thought. So, I don't know. I mean, it sounds like he's going to Iowa.
Starting point is 00:15:01 So, I wonder if they were just kind of like, let's buddy up. Josh Gaddis to Iowa. Josh Gaddis to Iowa. He might be on a fire. Like, actually. Like, he's not doing well. Oh, man. I guarantee you, actually, if they have the same –
Starting point is 00:15:20 if Miami has the same type of year next year that they did this year. Oh, he's's gonna be gone oh for sure because the head coach will have to say you're fired so that i don't get fired right gotta gotta throw somebody under the bus exactly um but ultimately i i think we're gonna end up in good shape in the portal um i think they're a guy like if you're an offensive lineman you're calling michigan right now if you're in the portal oh yeah there's a spot for you like 100 that's what i think it's the guy that uh just entered in who's like a big big name chris it's chris hinton's brother i think there was another one today that came out though too really yeah not just miles hinton right
Starting point is 00:16:03 he's at stanford i think that half somebody else half of college football is in the portal right dude i read that there were a thousand kids in the portal in 24 hours because what that was like the first day you could do it so everybody like that number is obviously gonna be the day is gonna be had that biggest number that's a ton of people that day we'll have the biggest number that's a ton of people that day will have the biggest number that's remember when there was like 12 transfers yeah like a transfer you had to sit out you had to like get legal someone's better now to do it now you just like tweet you're just like all right i'm in the portal come drop some buzz dude garners of attention do you think some people even like officially
Starting point is 00:16:45 enter the portal or do they just tweet it yeah there's somebody out there that has to like submit it yeah like god damn it just like fuck i gotta make a graphic for this now too you're just like a coach text me to tell me it western michigan or something just like all right who's available? You're just like scrolling Twitter. That's awesome. I mean, I will say it's got to be just like a complete like shit show of recruiting and trying to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:17:17 How do you know who's on your big board? It's not like in high school recruiting, you can like see them come up and you watch their progression it's over four years or whatever and this it's just like one day you just know who's all available and it's a race to go get them oh dude this would be so fun okay so i'm proposing this i can't wait to hear what it's going to be. So I feel like it would be perfect for me. So, like, basically I'd be a recruiter, but I'm only, like, watching the college football, like, realm. Like, it's not high school.
Starting point is 00:17:54 It's only college football. And I'm just, like, watching games, seeing guys that aren't really playing. Maybe they're, you know, scouting them a little bit, add them to my list, and, you know, create a whole database. Somebody's going to create a database for me. I'll give them the paper. We'll type it all in, you know, just go down to all the games, as many as I can hit, you know, in college football, like I'll follow college game day around or something like that. And, uh, then I'll basically have the list of people like, you know, you narrow it down, you call your leads, right? We'll sales call and say, Hey man, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:18:27 I see you're not getting a bunch of, you know, a ton of playing time. I don't know if you thought about going to the portal, but you know, we've got some spots available next year and we really like what we see. Boom. You know, you're, you're calling these guys and you're keeping them on and you're still recruiting them like you would a high school guy. And then when they do get in the portal, they just go straight to you.
Starting point is 00:18:44 You've already got that relationship made. I'm a vibes guy, dude. I could do that. I could totally, totally do that. Am I wrong that everyone already has a portal guy that's called a recruiter? Yeah, but I would strictly be like transfer portal guys. I think that everyone has a portal guy now too because it's like a big deal. Well, you know, if they don't, I'm just putting my name in the hat all right i don't know if that's legal tyler but maybe it does
Starting point is 00:19:10 definitely feel legal um it feels like everything's legal now it feels like you're just poaching kids why is it illegal you're just you're this is what jack just pitched i'm a big vibes guy i just want to go to every college football game and just like yeah i'll be dana beers i'm just checking the vibes man seeing what's going on well oh and also while i'm recruiting these kids i would love to just have a couple beers while i watch this game do you think that'd be possible you know you want to go around here so i mean yeah i'm working but like you can't keep the vibes up without a couple of beers. He's basically like a pharmacy rep.
Starting point is 00:19:50 He's got a huge 50 grand stipend account. Wine and dine these kids. That's all he's doing all the time. Oh, my God. You're just tailgating. Take it to Chipotle. Yeah double meat i got it i got it rip this bong out here first yeah then you eat beer bong you'll be hungry oh beer sorry you might want to throw up i don't know oh god yeah this got real illegal real quick.
Starting point is 00:20:25 There you go. I don't feel like that's illegal. I feel like while people are still enrolled somewhere else, you're not allowed to contact them. Okay. I don't know if that's true. I mean, I'm pretty sure it's true, although it seemed as if Cade McNamara was talking to Iowa,
Starting point is 00:20:44 seeing as he went into the portal and was at Iowa like four hours later. Right. I feel like it's got to be legal. It's not legal, but it happens everywhere. There's loopholes. Yeah. There's loopholes. I feel like it's like the kid can reach out.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Maybe that's it. Yeah. Maybe I'll call mom. Hey, tell your son to reach out to me. Yeah, there you go. Loophole. Loophole. Fixed.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Loophole fixed. Loophole fixed. The NCO is such a joke. We just found a loophole that quickly. That's how smart we are. I mean, that's true. That's true. All right. So what, that's true. That's true. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:26 So what else do we want to break down from this game? We've went on 40 tangents. Vibes were high. My breakdown, vibes were high. Saw some throws from JJ we wanted to see. Dono killed it again. Second half team, more consistent with being a second half team. Vibes are high going into TCU.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I'm nervous about Max Duggan, but vibes are high. Vibes are high going into the TCU. I'm nervous about Max Duggan, but vibes are high. Vibes are very, very high. His stats are pretty freaking good. He's got like, is it 40? He's going to win the Heisman. 40 touchdowns and four picks or something like that? Caleb Williams handed him the Heisman.
Starting point is 00:22:00 He's winning it. Also, you want to talk about the Heisman? Blake got snubbed. Stetson Bennett with 20 TDs and six picks talk about the heisman blake got snubbed stetson bennett with 20 tds and six picks is in the heisman race get the fuck out of here bro was he picked to go to new york yeah oh yeah that's who you get for being the best the quarterback of the best team in the country i mean don't get me wrong i fucking love steps Stetson Bennett. He's – I do too, but he's not a Heisman quarterback. I don't think he is either, but – He was second team all big, all SEC.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Behind who? I'm assuming Bryce Young. Right. So you're telling me you're not even the best quarterback in your conference, but you're going to be up for the best quarterback in the country? It's not even... Yeah, their award's not... I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Bro, Hendon Hooker, like, went nuts this year. He got hurt. I know. The fucking injury thing is bullshit. You get hurt, you're out. They got no sympathy for the Hytham ceremony. Duggan didn't start the year, though. That's kind of crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Who do you think the fourth Michigan player next year to be on stage with the other three is going to be? So it'll be J.J., Donovan, Mikey Sanders, though. Of course. Yeah. And the defensive, the Woodson Award. Fuck yeah. Who's fourth?
Starting point is 00:23:25 Probably. The defensive, the Woodson Award? Fuck yeah. Who's for it? Probably, it's either going to be Andrew L. Anthony or Peyton O'Leary. Ooh, give me Peyton O'Leary, baby. Maybe, Jake. If Brad Robbins comes back, then it's definitely him. But I'm just going to say no. It's going to be Davis Warren. Maybe Davis Warren. Davis.
Starting point is 00:23:43 We're going to have both of our quarterbacks in the Heisman running. Two QB system. That would be Davis Warren. Maybe Davis Warren. Davis. We're going to have two. We're going to have both of our quarterbacks. Two QB system. That would be pretty sick. Two QB system and they both put up stats enough for the Heisman. Dude, I legit, I'm like so bought in on this that JJ, Dono, and Mikey will all be up there. I'm 100% bought in on it. I would be JJ and Donovan both could. Like JJ and Blake –
Starting point is 00:24:07 I'm 100% on JJ and Dono and then like 99.9 with Mikey. Just because he's a defensive guy. A little bit lower. Yeah, just a little bit lower. Yeah, I mean, honestly, if JJ starts the year and has like a few better games where he doesn't – like he produces some more touchdowns and hits those deep balls, then it's J.J. and Blake up there for sure.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Who? J.J. and Dono? This year. Oh, this year. If Blake doesn't get injured as well. Oh, gotcha. Okay. That's true.
Starting point is 00:24:45 True statement. I mean, I. That's true. True statement. I mean, I don't think JJ was that far off also, but I will say... He didn't have very many big games. Yeah. The people that... I will say this. The people that said it on Twitter right after their Ohio State game, they're like, JJ needs to be in the Heisman conversation. No.
Starting point is 00:25:01 No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't. Not this year. Not yet. He's literally just turning the corner here. Yeah. He didn't have to do anything special. No, that's the best part. Although, I will say, the last two games,
Starting point is 00:25:17 I mean, he has turned the corner. And I think there was a lot of time against Purdue where he scrambled and made plays that wouldn't have been there without him making a play. Yeah. He did have that one from Cade to him. That one pick. What was going on? That was a terrible throw.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Yeah. That was not a good decision. What was he doing? That bad behind? Did I miss something? You know, he really took some steps forward. You know, he did this, did that. Yeah, remember that pick?
Starting point is 00:25:48 That was terrible. Terrible throw. I mean, that was the one really bad decision of the whole game, I thought. But it was, like, perplexing. He was, like, there was nobody in the vicinity. Oh, my God. Yeah. And he doesn't have those.
Starting point is 00:26:06 It's not like Jameis Winston where it's like he's going to have unreal plays and then also have some really bad plays. J.J. doesn't have, like, really bad plays very often. No. It's great. I'll take that. That's all you need when you can run the ball like that. Might as well get it out there.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Yeah. How do we feel about the college football playoff selection? Love it. Great. I think it was perfect. Ohio State can suck one. Yeah, they can suck a big fat dick, but I want them to beat Georgia, and I want Michigan to beat TCU,
Starting point is 00:26:39 and I want to see a Michigan-Ohio State national championship. That will be the most watched football game of all time i read a tweet today it was like i don't think america has the infrastructure for a michigan ohio state national championship no dude not at all all these midwesterners out in la just getting rowdy. Oh, fuck. It is. The people in LA would be like, who the fuck are these creatures? It's going to be like some guy from Ohio with a huge beard, just cigarettes sitting on the side of his mouth. 30 rack of Bush light walking into SoFi stadium where they have like a spot
Starting point is 00:27:30 just for influencers. Oh my God. That's a picture I want to see. I agree. I agree. Oh man. Incredible. Incredible.
Starting point is 00:27:42 I, I went back and forth on it in my head. I'm not scared by any means. I just don't want – I would like to avoid the possibility of us losing the momentum in that game. Right now we have all the momentum, and it's really hard to beat a team twice. We can do it, though. What do you think about jj's
Starting point is 00:28:07 comments of him just being like i want him i want him love it dude dude's a dog maybe my pants that was like that was fucking cool i'm nervous about it because though you know that's playing in the locker what do What did he say? Because it panned away from him. And it went to Dono. And you can kind of hear what he whispered. It's like, bring it on. Bring it on.
Starting point is 00:28:33 That's what it was. That's what it was. Bring it on. But then he said it in a different interview, too. He's like, I want him. I want to see him in there. I love how that part of it, though. When you were describing Dono and JJ earlier, you're like you know dono's comes in like he's having a good time and then jj's up there trying
Starting point is 00:28:49 to be all like and that it was like totally opposite it was flipped yeah one moment out of it was like you know we're just focused on the opponent you know in front of us and you know we no matter what we're gonna do this and work hard and all this it was like such a political answer and then jj's like bring it home baby it was totally you're right it was totally like that one second i was like you can see it each come out of uh each other um yeah that was i don't know man i it's it remains to be seen but if i had to I had to put it on it right now, JJ and Donovan, you have that dog in them. They do. Big dogs.
Starting point is 00:29:30 You know, puppy dogs. I want some big dogs. You want no cat? You want no cat, man? Who's the coach? Who said that? You haven't seen that speech? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:44 No, who was that? I don't know. I'm trying to figure it out. Big T, look that up. See if you can find that video. If you don't know what I'm talking about. The one other one is my favorite one. The guy's describing his whole team.
Starting point is 00:29:56 He's like, so-and-so? Duh. So-and-so? Oh, yeah. You guys like Coach Prime today? Yeah. I'm bringing my luggage with me. That was Louis.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I'm going to be transparent. He was basically like, get the fuck out of here because I don't want any of your sorry-ass players. I mean, oh, that's Coastal Carolina. That's a good call. That's a good call. Wait, what happened? Coastal Carolina?
Starting point is 00:30:22 Coastal Carolina was the dog. No cat. No cats. Oh what happened? Coastal Carolina? Coastal Carolina was the dog. No cat. No cats. Oh, yeah. Coastal Carolina. I don't know. Prime. I didn't realize it that Colorado was 1-11 this year.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I did not know that. They were bad, bad. Yeah. I saw Joel Klatt just so happy cheesing. Yeah. Who did they beat? That's a great question. They won their, like, first game of the year.
Starting point is 00:30:51 I want to say it was, like, Marshall or something like that. They won their first game of the year, I want to say. They haven't won since. So, but, like, I don't know. I would have thought that Deion Sanders would have held out for one or two more years and gone to an Auburn or, like – Dude, hey, Kalen and I were talking about this on the way back from Indy. And we were talking about Denver.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And, like, I've never been, but, like, talking to Kalen about it, he's been there. I'm like, it sounds like ann arbor planted in the mountains yeah it is i've been on their campus incredible and isn't their campus like fucking amazing it's really cool i mean why not i love it you can make it's not about me now but he can he can make it a big name and i'm excited to see his son play quarterback and maybe your son the quarterback in the in the opening press conference fully transparent they have a good quarterback too actually they have like a solid better one now yeah do we know if uh that recruit he got last year the number one overall guy was following
Starting point is 00:31:57 him to colorado or if he's like everybody it felt like everyone was following him okay i do feel bad for jackson state like they're gonna be left with nothing like seriously you see like um you know a lot of these high school these basketball players are like hey like i want to go to like an hbcu and yeah you know give them a good representation and jackson state was an hbcu right yep so like then they would have had football to like to grow that game out there and get bigger it would have been cool if he would have now it's like kind of like all right well fuck that yeah it would have been cool but but he did a lot to bring more attention while he was there you keep trying to talk but I'm not done talking. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:32:48 All right. Are you done? I'm done. I'm waiting for you now. I was going to say, it would have been cool if you would have built something for more than, like, a few years there. Like, if you would have actually stayed for five or something like that. Like, like you can hand it off you know to someone like if you could have brought in like a big name or something yeah yeah but anyways um all right so i mean back to back big 10 champs back to back ohio state back to back college football playoff
Starting point is 00:33:20 were we three or two last year we were actually actually two, weren't we? Three, four, three, two. We were two. Wait, one? It wasn't Georgia? No, because Georgia had just lost at Bama in the championship game. Yeah, so we were two. Were we? We passed them.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I think. Tyler says two. Wow. All right. Whatever Big T says two. Wow. All right. Whatever Big T says goes. Yeah. I thought we were three. Because Cincinnati was four.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Cincinnati was four. Yeah. Oh, yeah, and they got rocked, didn't they? Yeah. I was also telling Kaelin, I think this might be the first college football playoff year that there won't be a blowout in the semi.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Except for us blowing TCU out. I mean, realistically. No, it's definitely the closest games, I think, because I think Ohio State will keep up with Georgia. I mean, you assume so. There's always a chance. If they don mean, you assume so. I mean, what if they don't?
Starting point is 00:34:26 There's always a chance, right? What if they don't? They'll let me down again. I mean, were you surprised that the line was like nine for us? Yeah. That's a big line. It's a fucking huge line. I thought it moved to seven or something.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Did it move? Good. Keep fucking moving that fucker down. I don't like that it was that big. Yeah. Makes me nervous. something good keep fucking moving that fucker down i don't like that it was that big yeah i would have thought they both would have been at like six and a half or something yeah seven that was what uh georgia ohio state was so um yeah i don't know i mean oh listen the thing is that ohio state for sure can come out in this like They had one bad game because we own their asses and they don't know what to do against a good Michigan team.
Starting point is 00:35:11 But it's not like they're bad. I mean, they're still pretty damn good. I'll tell you what. I don't care what the over is. Do we know? Big T, can you find the over under for that game? I don't know what. It could be 120, and I'm betting the fucking over. Like that game? I don't know. It could be 120 and I'm betting
Starting point is 00:35:26 the fucking over. That game will be a shootout. It's 7.5 now. No. Ohio State, Georgia. Yeah. Let it be known that I placed my bet for Michigan Big Ten Conference winner
Starting point is 00:35:47 on August 11th. Fuck yes. Love that. That's positive vibes. That's right, baby. What did that cash out as? I only put a dollar in, but it paid me nine bucks. 60 and a half for the over-under for Georgia, Ohio State?
Starting point is 00:36:03 Yeah. Way. Bump that up. Take the winnings you just made and put it on that. I don't know about that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Wait, so it was plus $900? Is that what you said? Plus $9,000? It was plus $800. $800? $8 eight bucks baby that's right we rich you have the drive-thru let's go i love just putting a dollar on it too just just to you know oh yeah that's just that's just like it was one good for me yeah i can place more bets that way because i'm not super rich exactly right. Right. Exactly. I got that. Well, now. Now that, I mean, now that we go to the Big Ten Championship every year, you can kind of just book it, you know?
Starting point is 00:36:52 Honestly, that should be our thing. Every year we put $90 on Michigan to win the Big Ten Championship. Or the Natty. Or the Natty. Both of them. If we just go to the Natty this year we'll bet on the natty next year how about that bet yeah yeah um this is the first time uh the playoff has not had bama right in like a long time i feel like there's been another year i'm sure tyler will
Starting point is 00:37:22 find it for us no clemson no bama i think that's a way love that clemson's just out oh yeah no they weren't even in the conversation no it makes me so happy yeah i'm sick clemson's getting too much love of dab i don't like that how about uh how about obama being ranked higher than uh tennessee well penn and hooker's out so i that shouldn't be... That shouldn't have to do with your... They have Joe Milton, the quarterback. No, they do not. He's not their backup.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Yes, he is. No, he's not. I'm 94% sure. Bro, that's wild. That's what I'm saying. 2019, 2020. So, Bama wasn't in it. 2019, 2020. No Bama. So Bama wasn't in it in 2019 or 2020.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Uh-uh. Can you confirm if Joe Milton's the backup quarterback? We can look up something ourselves, too. You've just been having him. I like referring to T. Yeah, he said backup. Holy shit. Told you, dude.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Joe Milton's playing in a college, or not a college football playoff a new year six ball fuck yeah that's wild watch that shit what if he balls out oh i hope he does that's what i see him throw like 30 deep balls so much orange in that game at the orange bowl i know it is in the orange level yeah Yeah. What if he balls out all of a sudden? Like Michigan has JJ balling out in Ann Arbor, Cade possibly balling out next year in Iowa, and Joe Milton balling out at Tennessee. We're basically like Georgia from what, three years ago?
Starting point is 00:38:58 Yeah, basically. Or Bama from three years ago. Yeah. Yeah, Bama from – Bama when they had Tua, Jalen Hurts, and – Mack Jones. Mack Jones. That's wild. Wild.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Or basically them. Yeah. Also, Dylan McCaffrey threw for like 24 touchdowns and 24 picks this year. Really? At North Dakota State. God. Woof. Yeah. Tough. Playing for At North Dakota State. God. Yeah, tough. Playing for his dad.
Starting point is 00:39:29 That's tough. I liked the kid. I think he's a good kid, but like, that's tough. Tyler, not a fan. Not a fan. So, what do we think about TCU, though? You're scared of Max scared of max duggan yeah he's got a little swag to him dude he's swaggy little dude dude i watched a little bit and when they played defense they
Starting point is 00:39:56 played with three down linemen no way they're gonna do that against michigan so then it frees up jj to just ball i i feel like there's no way that they're built to stop that against Michigan. So then it frees up JJ to just ball. I feel like there's no way that they're built to stop a Michigan offense. Your eyes are killing me. They're not even open. They're fucking open. Fuck off. I thought you were falling asleep.
Starting point is 00:40:20 It was bad. It's the glare. I think the glare is messing with you guys. Yeah, for sure, dude. Must's the glare i think the glare is like messing with you guys yeah for sure dude i thought you were just hacklock coma chill out oh my god oh jesus um yeah as i was saying there's no way that their defense is built to stop Michigan. Like, they don't know how to play against a good run. They played Texas.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Yeah, well, how'd they do against Texas? They beat them. Texas is also not back. I think the Big 12 is better than the ACC. You think that's a fair take? Whoa. ACC is the worst. Who do they have?
Starting point is 00:41:11 I think ACC is soft. Florida State's down. UMC, do they have a good year? Wait, did you say ACC or FTC? I'm sorry. B. John Robinson ran for 29 yards versus PCU. Uh-oh. Interesting. I mean, I'm still. B. John Robinson ran for 29 yards versus TCU. Uh-oh. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:41:27 I mean, I'm still not worried, but interesting. Oof. Well, he wasn't invited to the Heisman. That's a good point. Wait, you said ACC? Sorry, Kalen? Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a fair take for sure.
Starting point is 00:41:42 The ACC stinks. Yeah. They're trending up. They're trending up, but they do stink. Florida State, they'll's a fair take for sure. The ACC stinks. Yeah. They're trending up. They're trending up, but they do stink. Florida State, they'll make a comeback at some time. Yeah, like they have their time, right? Florida State, Miami, Clemson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Right. I mean, if they're all at their best, then yeah. Fuck yeah. But right now, I'm like, hey, man. TCU, Kansas State. Yeah. But, like, also tell me who's good in the SEC outside of Bama and Georgia and then Tennessee snuck in there this year for the first time.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I'll be honest. I have no clue. I mean, like, Ole Miss, solid, right? Yeah, but solid's like eight and four, right? Yeah. Is that where their record was? I don't know. I think so.
Starting point is 00:42:23 I think they trailed off at the end. Lane train was hot in the beginning and then cooled down. Yeah. Is that where their record was? I don't know. I think so. I think they trailed off at the end. Okay. Lane train was hot in the beginning and then cooled down. LSU, yeah, but they got like three, four losses now. Yeah, but they had some good wins, I guess. Some good wins. I mean, I don't know. The SEC overall, I think, was still the strongest conference this year.
Starting point is 00:42:43 This was just one of those years where there's no, like, the team that's just, like, blowing people away. Every conference still kind of, I think. Yeah, I think Georgia still, until somebody beats them, Georgia still has that. But I still think the Georgia team from this year isn't as good as the Georgia team from last year. Oh, yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Their defense was fucking just ridiculous last year. It was insane. It was one of the craziest defenses from last year. Oh, yeah, I agree. Their defense was fucking just ridiculous last year. It was insane. It was one of the craziest defenses of all time. And that's what I mean. It is kind of at large, right? Kind of anyone can win this year in a way with the right circumstances. Every conference kind of has their top two teams, it feels like.
Starting point is 00:43:21 And then it's like a pretty big drop-off. Yeah. SEC, Georgia, it feels like. And then it's like a pretty big drop-off. Yeah. SEC, Georgia Bantam. Yeah. ACC is probably just Clemson, actually. There really isn't a second one. It was here a minute
Starting point is 00:43:35 until they didn't play Dan Valari. Dude, just put Danny Dimes in. How's the running back at TCU? I don't know anything about him. I don't know a dick about anything, dude. I think his name's Kavante, though, which is a good name. That is a good name.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Let's see here. Let's all do our research now. Yeah. Live. Fuck it, we'll do it who we playing kendray miller 1300 yards rushing thank you t that's not bad it's not bad 17 touchdowns fuck dude so he's kind of on what's max duggan like What's Max Duggan? Like, what are his stats?
Starting point is 00:44:26 I know he can kind of do everything, right? 65% completion percentage. 30 touchdowns, four interceptions. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah, dude. He's winning the Heisman. Heisman.
Starting point is 00:44:37 He's not winning the Heisman. He's winning the Heisman. Why would he not win the Heisman? If he, I mean, if they. Who's beating him? If they beat us, then he would for sure Well, it's already, the voting's
Starting point is 00:44:50 done. Is it? Yeah. The results are, I think the vote, yeah, because the top four came out today, and then the results are read on Saturday. Gotcha. I mean, it's not Caleb Williams. I know it's not Caleb Williams. I know. It's not Caleb Williams.
Starting point is 00:45:05 CJ Stroud. I guess he is going to win the Heisman. Jesus. It's not Stetson Bennett. No. Max Duggan, dude. Was his name even in it, though? Like, until Corham was out?
Starting point is 00:45:18 That's where I'd, like. I don't know. Because I felt like it was. It was always, like, CJ Stroud, Caleb Williams, and then Corum. And Hooker. Oh, and Hooker, yeah. So, yeah, he kind of came in late. A lot of, like, Hooker, Stetson Bennett both came in really late.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I mean, it'll be a crime if Max Duggan doesn't win the Heisman. His stats show it. Yeah. He's a gamer. Dude, I'm just so sad for Blake. Like, it would have been so obvious that it was Blake. Oh, yeah. If he ever got hurt, that's Heisman season locked in.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Literally. It still is obvious. A runaway Heisman. Yeah. Because if he even has one of those Donovan runs against Ohio State, and then he carries the ball 25 times like Donovan did in the Big Ten Championship. He goes for 200.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Highest moment. Yeah. People did. I do think writers wrote him off, wrote Blake off a little bit because they're like, well, Donovan was able to do the same thing behind that line, so it's just the line. And I'm like, yeah. Donovan's literally going to win the Heisman next year.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Donovan is just as good yeah yeah i mean out in space you you see it right on display blake just shifty like he makes guys miss yeah he's legit i mean blake's unbelievable i did i got a little like tear in my eye when donovan was talking about Blake on the podium I don't know if you guys saw that oh shit no I didn't watch that yeah yeah he was just like Blake for Heisman he deserves it like he's the best running back in college football blah blah blah that was pretty cool for him to say definitely um yeah so what what was the uh what was the environment like inside Lucas Oil were you you singing mr brightside like we were singing the bright side same uh they played pump it up once as well towards the end after a touchdown um i mean it was back and forth in the beginning so it was exciting um and then
Starting point is 00:47:17 you pulled away late um i i it wasn't the it was not the environment that it was last year. Last year was just like insane because of two things. Obviously, the first time we've ever been there in 17 years or whatever. And then secondly, we had those two big touchdowns right away and it just like made the place erupt. And this time it was like a little bit more back and forth and stuff like that. It wasn't quite this electric atmosphere. Still, though, again, Indy, great city.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Love Indy. Great city. It was awesome. Where did you guys watch at? Brothers? Kilroy's. Remember, Brothers wouldn't let me in because I didn't have belt loops. I was wearing my classy sweats, dude. Dude was not having it. not having it he was like nah dude you can't get in here okay back to kill roy's we go kill roy's was legit though they had a lot of cool people
Starting point is 00:48:17 you know there was some mission like kill rise is definitely the number one bar there we went to we got served pretty quick i mean service was great and it was a packed bar like it was very very good experience kill roy's 10 out of 10 thank you oh yeah awesome awesome that's good to know good to know um i'm i'm thinking about going to phoenix so we'll see dude If you can, do it. Can you buy a bus and maybe you'll drive the bus and me and Jack will sit in the back and we'll just live stream the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:48:55 You've got a driver's headset on, there's a camera, a dash cam on you talking, and then we're in the back. Big T's back there with us. I'm just imagining this like an episode of Jackass and he's just like... He's wearing a helmet for some
Starting point is 00:49:12 reason. We're like, why is he wearing a helmet? This definitely does seem like a scene out of a movie. Dude, yeah. Jackass what? 2.0? Or it's like RV where everything goes wrong the entire trip. Oh, don't your parents have an RV? They do.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Should we just do it? Yes. I got to convince my dad. Absolutely. Come on. Oh, dad, do you want to go to the semifinal game? I know it sounds pretty boring. John would be like, I already got our tickets.
Starting point is 00:49:41 What do you mean? We're taking the RV. Just got off the phone with Jack. We're good to go. You know, if my brother listens to this, his wedding is the 7th, and the night he is the 9th in L.A. That's tough. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:49:59 The wedding is also in L.A.? Is that what you're saying? No, no. His wedding is in Pmouth michigan oh and so like that means i would have to leave if i went to the natty i would have to like leave first thing in the morning on sunday morning from his wedding for la that's true i think i'll just say fuck it do it live You even gain a couple hours when you get to LA. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:27 A few to be exact. Yeah, it's true. I can just go red-eye, like go straight drunk from the wedding, just straight onto the airplane. Dude, just never stop. Just keep it rolling. Keep that drunk going. Till Monday.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Can't lose momentum. Can't lose momentum, dude. There's no way that they have a home game on Sunday, right? No, no way. I feel like, I mean, don't two teams play there? They might. What do you mean? Like two NFL teams?
Starting point is 00:51:01 Rams, Chargers? It's not like one's playing at 1 o'clock and the other's playing at 8. No, but usually if you have two teams, it's tough to get both of them away is what I'm saying. Oh, gotcha. That's a good point. Maybe there's a bye week or something? Los Angeles Rams schedule.
Starting point is 00:51:19 On the 8th, they play at the Seahawks. The... Regular season's over by then. The Chargers. Oh, wait. Never mind. It's like the last week, actually. The Chargers play at the Broncos, so they're both away.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Okay. There you go. Perfect. Scheduling. Could have been a massive disaster. Could have. You know, maybe they didn't think about that. I was going to help.
Starting point is 00:51:46 We did at. So if I say, I gotta, I gotta say something before I forget. Your hair looks incredible right now. I don't know what you did, but like he's got, it looks like he just left the barber and they just like fucking did his
Starting point is 00:52:03 shit. I said, I said that maybe a big T can get a, get a zoom in close. Stop it right now. Don't do it. I haven't done anything to it. I just, I literally just like, this is what I did this morning. I don't know. It looks good. Thanks dude. I appreciate that. I don't know, dude. It looks good.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Thanks, dude. I appreciate that. Coming from you, that means a lot. Thank you. You're a guy that knows hair. I am. JD's Barbershop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Are you still growing out the hair? What are you doing? I am. I am growing it out. Let's go. Forehead looks really big. I'm going to go to the barber i'll be like what do you think it's growing right that's the whole point i'm gonna be like give me your
Starting point is 00:52:50 honest opinion it's like is it worth it or should you give me give me your honest opinion but also my feelings are gonna be really hurt if you say the wrong thing no not at all dude not at all like i would want to know i talked to zach the tailgate he's like dude yeah they're all saying like grow your hair back out but they're not bald it makes you look better bald i was like okay good point good point coming from a bald guy that is a good point he's got a tough argument, I'll tell you that. You're not bald. They just don't have that experience. Savage.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I was like, yeah, you got a point. I mean, it's true. But I saw that one picture of you from, what was that? That was 20 years ago. That was 2020. Yeah, been through a lot of stress since then. You know, a lot of hair has fallen out. I feel like there's not that much hair that's fallen out.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I say just grow it out and, like, grow it out with some length and just give it a look. And if you're like, you know what, I don't like it. There has to be a long in-between stage, man. That's a lot. You know what? I don't mind wearing a beanie and a hat all the time. Like, that's not a problem for me.
Starting point is 00:54:05 But that's just a long process. You are. It's a lot of hats. You've got to get in front of a lot of people. If you're watching this on YouTube, look at the views on there. Big time. It's millions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of millions we have what I'll say is it's at least 10 at least 10 people I can guarantee you if you're watching this at this point there's at least 10 views on there if you're watching this please stop
Starting point is 00:54:39 if you're watching this thank you if you want to donate to our GoFundMe to keep the podcast going that would be great if you want to donate to our GoFundMe to keep the podcast going, that would be great. If you want to donate to Jack's Hair Plugs, we are starting to go. If we can get me someone to get some hair plugs, fix up the hairline a little bit, get the bald spot
Starting point is 00:54:56 in the back, I'd throw it out for sure. It's a lot of work, man. Those kind of funds. You need to get that whatever, what did Nate get? The beard on his head or whatever? I had a lot of neck hair I can get rid of. Dude, yeah, get that, the transplant thing.
Starting point is 00:55:13 It'd just be like different hair. It'd be so gross. You ever see the blondes that have like different colored or different types of grass in it? Like it just looks bad. Like when they do it, like when they, they do is like like when they would be looking like or something but it's very clear that they like just put down sod in one area yeah oh yeah it'd look awful wait is that true that the hair if you take it from your beard and put it on top of your
Starting point is 00:55:41 head that it is like stubble it's not like i don't think so like the same thickness and everything i mean maybe not i don't know there's no way you just have like guys look at stuff like that done are desperate man maybe they'll take that over being bald i don't know i'm just saying That's what I would assume. No way. It's just like some scraggly beard haired. I don't know, man. I have no clue. That's just what I assume.
Starting point is 00:56:14 You just have a beard on top of your head. I mean, fuck, dude. That would give me a lot more fucking hair. I'll tell you that. Alright, we can try it. Alright, this has officially gone off the rails. All right, good. Hey, we're college football playoff bound.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Back to back, baby. A lot to learn. First time Michigan football has been 13-0. Ever. Ever. Ever. Ever. Pretty fucking cool.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Oh, my God. It was awesome. I mean, it is wild. I want to go back to it. I was being snobby and half-joking, but it truly is wild that we are – all of a sudden it's like, yeah, Big Ten champs is the norm. 13-0, no big deal. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:57:01 Where did this come from, dude? I mean, I'm just loving it, dude. We're living in this moment. This is probably the best stage of Michigan football that we'll ever see in our lifetime. Like, this stretch of what's happening right now. Not many people get these stretches, dude. Like, this is going to be the best Michigan football that's going to be in our lifetime. For us to, like, really enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Taking it all in. Yeah. Enjoying every second of it. And the fact that we are like i mean we're the favorite by almost double digits to go to the national title i do hate that that scares the shit out of me but i know but like that's how good we are like that's how our chances are unbelievable knock on wood but holy shit like very exciting time just an unbelievable feeling so feels good all right we'll keep it rolling here um but for us you can follow us at blue by 90 on twitter instagram
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