Blue By Ninety - E70: Jay Toia & OSU takeover at the Big House

Episode Date: June 10, 2021

The boys briefly cover Jay Toia's decison on his transfer destination, the OSU takeover at the Big House that happens every year and more. Crack a cold one and enjoy the show.

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Touchdown, Wolverines! Alright, welcome back to Blue by 90. I am Justin, joined by Jack and Kalen. As always, it is, what is it, Wednesday? It's 6-9. Nice. June 9th. Happy sex day. Happy 6-9. I was thinking Tekashi 6-ashi 69 uh yeah i mean happy 69 guys it's it's a great day it's like fucking 90 degrees out it i sat outside for

literally 20 minutes today and i was dripping sweat so it's just been so fucking humid when it's been hot and i'm not a fan of that i've just been inside sitting my air conditioning doing nothing for the past three days jack is like he hates the sun i hate the sun i hate warm weather you're like the guy in uh in bench warmers that eats the sunscreen. Yes. Dude, I packed on this extra poundage for cold weather, not for the heat. I'm not prepared for this. It's funny. Heather and I are going to Saugatuck this weekend.

She's like, you better get on Amazon and prime some swim trunks because none of these ones that you have from last year fit you. So I was able to prime some this morning, and I've actually got them coming tonight amazon prime is incredible dude amazon prime is crazy like you can order stuff and it's there and i mean well there's a couple things too that like i i know i have buddies in chicago that they order stuff and it'll be there in two hours they have two two-hour delivery, not two-day delivery. Unbelievable. Really. Crime's taking over. Now, if they could, like, you know, deliver a couple five-stars to Michigan, that would be pretty

cool, because we need that shit on speed dial. I love that video that you made and put up on the socials today. That was incredible. I was like, did Rome make this? I know he's kind of clever with the socials today that was incredible i was like did rome make this like i know i know he's kind of clever with the social media but i'm like maybe he took it from somewhere but i i texted you and you're like yeah i think that's fucking awesome so if you

haven't seen it check out blue by 90 on twitter and instagram you'll be able to see what we're talking about it's pretty funny causing quite a stir in the comments too i know i know um yeah i well i've i find myself as a 29 year old watching tiktok way more than i should uh and so i got i got the part of the idea from tiktok but um the the slices part but uh yeah it was it's it was a solid one it was a incredible artwork there um but yeah i mean so to segue into that a little bit i thought that was a pretty good segue i had there too uh you know five stars galore at ohio state michigan a i think so here's the first thing I want to touch on is the I don't even know what star he was but Jay Toya the D tackle that was a lock according to every single Michigan beat writer out there to Michigan it was like oh he's coming this weekend you know coming straight from

from UCLA to Michigan he's gonna commit while he's here he leaves michigan uses the picture that he took in the michigan locker room and uses it to commit to ucla how about that he's like they get great photos over at michigan i'm just gonna get this ready send it over to ucla they'll edit it up and put it up and we'll come in i mean that's wild man that is incredible the day after right the day after he went the day after he literally took the pictures like 24 hours prior that's hilarious oh my gosh and i mean nua is like in some of the photos too and he just like cropped i thought they were boys or something yeah like it like, it was, I mean, and I get it. A lot of people are saying, yeah, you know, he's from California.

He's, like, trying to stay home, so his family. All right, I still, UCLA sucks at football. It's the fucking Pac-12, guys. Like, we really can't out-recruit a D-lineman over the Pac-12 at this point? Well, I was going to say, that's another guy that's transferring to a rival. I mean, he was at USC. He's going to UCLA. Like, really?

I just, I don't know. I'm starting, I mean, not starting, but I'm solidifying that I've lost my faith in Sean Nua. I mean, I don't know about you guys, but, like, where do you guys stand? I mean, we got to be better recruiting. Like, what's our pitch there? Drop a bag, give a good pitch, do something. We need D-tackle so badly.

I mean, I'm still on my roll from last week. I'm just, I don't care anymore. So I don't really give a shit. Oh, gosh. But I don't know. I'm like, whatever. Let's see what happens this fall. And, you know, I'm just so, I'm so numb to it all that I have no opinion. But I don't know. I'm like, whatever. Let's see what happens this fall. And, you know, I'm just so numb to it all that I have no opinion.

So I apologize. Go ahead, Kaelin. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to just totally 100% discount Sean Noah because he has brought in some, you know, some decent-looking four-star recruits, Braden McGregor, Rayshawn Benny, some of those guys. He's been out there, you know. So, yeah, he missed onhawn Benny, some of those guys he's been out there. So, yeah, he missed on this guy and a number of other guys, but pumped the brakes a little bit.

I guess. I know. I just find it, and maybe that's on the Michigan beat writers too, but it just feels like Ohio State just got four-star Caleb Brown, a wide receiver who was choosing between Ohio State just got four-star Caleb Brown, a wide receiver, who was choosing between Ohio State and Michigan. And he's like a top 100 player. I think he's like a top 10 wide receiver.

And then Michigan misses out on this lock that is like, oh, it's obvious that he's going. And it's at a position that we desperately need. You know, it just seems to be kicking the nuts after kicking the nuts right now uh just poor timing poor timing i'm moving more towards having jack's dance i'll say that you should it's great over here it's a great time just enjoying a cold beer and the sunshine and not going to let it ruin his boat time this weekend. It's all good. That's right, dude. Post nap beers, post post nap.

Everything is pretty great. Love it. Love it. So recruiting aside, you know, there was more news about Michigan and Ohio State out there. A couple of things that I so there were a a couple things that I wanted to talk about. This might be just a Michigan and Ohio State podcast today. Love it. Another thing that we posted on the social was the view of Michigan Stadium after, I think it was the 2019 Michigan-Ohio State game,

and it's like a sea of red. And we put out there, you know, don't sell your Ohio State tickets to Ohio State fans, all this stuff. We got a lot of play on it. A lot of people agreed, for sure. I'd say a vast majority agreed. But then there's like a decently significant amount of fans out that there that are like you know what they need to win if they don't want you know if they don't win then uh

you know just win just win and then i'll i'll keep my tickets i won't sell them here's my opinion and then i want to get your guys's my opinion is that sounds to me like my little league coach telling me just throw throw strikes. Just throw strikes. Like, it's that easy, right? Like, no shit. They're trying to win. No shit. I'm trying to throw strikes, dude.

Like, come on. So I'm just like, oh, oh, they should win? I hadn't thought of that. No fucking shit. Let's try that next time around. Yeah, right? Like, oh, okay. I think we should tell jim that

that he should try to win so i don't know i want your guys thoughts like you know is it an obligation for season ticket holders to like try to keep either keep those tickets or give them to a michigan fan or is it you know what if it if they can get $200 for the ticket, then, oh, well, you know, more power to them. You know, I mean, if you're a Michigan fan, be a Michigan fan. Do whatever you can to help out the team. And if you have tickets to the game, go to the game. You know, if you want them to win, I mean, having a home field advantage in most cases certainly helps. So, I mean, the last few Ohio State games I've been to, I think I've been to two mean i've the last few ohio state games i've been to i think

i've been to two or three in the last 10 years and every single time even when the stadium is full like you hear the ohio it's not just at the end of the game like we saw that picture like it was a sea of red i mean it's the entire game you're hearing ohio in the big house like it it's embarrassing man it's got to be at least half of the entire stadium is full of Ohio State fans. It's sad. And there's no, you know, there's no home field advantage there. I get that people are just like, all right, just win and then I'll go. Like, I understand that point.

But if you're the person that's selling that ticket to an Ohio State fan and giving up that home field advantage for the team you're a fan of, you're a sucker, dude. You don't deserve to have tickets. I agree. Kalen, what do you think? Yeah. I mean, in my world, people who are season ticket holders are as passionate about the team as I am. And to me, that means that you either go to the game or maybe I'm just a psychopath, and if I'm going to sell my tickets,

I'm going to vet who I'm selling them to and be like, okay, this is a Michigan fan. Good. This is my auntie bringing her kid to her first Michigan game. Something like that. I'm not selling my tickets to, you know, Joe Snaggletooth from Ohio. Like, that goes against everything I stand for.

So I personally believe that if you're a season ticket holder, you owe it not just to the team but to yourself to, like, be protective of that. Because there's plenty of other people who are probably more wildly passionate than you are who would love that season ticket. So it's your duty. And probably would pay the same, right? Like, there are probably Michigan fans out there, haven't been to a Michigan-Ohio State game, would love to, you know. And I get it. It's hard. You put it on Craigslist, you put it on Stuff Hub, whatever, you don't know who's buying it. You know, I get it. But there's got to be a little bit of pride there,

right? Like you said, Kalen, like that goes against everything. And I, you know, look at it a little bit like Ohio State-Penn State. I know that's not the game, but Penn State and Ohio State, Penn State's only beat them once in the last 10 years. They fill Happy Valley every fucking year, and it's a night game. It's crazy. Incredible sight. A true home team advantage. And they've beat them almost just know just as much as we have

which is barely ever in the last 10 years and so why you know tell me why ohio state fans aren't like piling into happy valley you know why do penn state fans keep their tickets so i i just think it's a little bit of a pride thing like i i don't know i i get it you know get your money whatever but you know what if you're not going to go to the ohio state game then don't buy a season ticket somebody else will and you know what then then we can at least see maize and blue in there and get somewhat of a home field advantage yeah yeah so i i mean kaylen i'm with you if you're gonna sell your tickets sell them to a michigan fan if you vet them and and you know they are you know they're a michigan fan i'm totally fine with that don't tell them don't sell them to a Michigan fan. If you vet them and, you know, they're a Michigan fan, I'm totally fine with that.

Don't sell them to an Ohio State fan. Yeah, and even though this sounds bad, I'll say it. I would rather you just don't sell your ticket and you just go like, eh, I'm not going, and the stadium's empty than a bunch of Ohio State fans. I would rather that. Love it. I agree. I get it that. Love it. I agree. I get it that people want to get their money back because you can, like,

you can almost get your entire season's money back by selling maybe the Ohio State game and one other game. I get it. Maybe it's a financial thing. Whatever. I don't know. It's just, I get it, too, that, like, you know, you realize that we haven't beat them in fucking two decades and you want it, you know, you don't want to go and watch them get beat 62 to 39 again.

But it's like, I think that if we fill that stadium and give a good home field advantage, maybe that helps the talent gap. A little bit at least. It's got to help some. So, I don't know. We just got a DM on Twitter. And he said, OSU fan here, but just wanted to say your account cracks me up. So, hey. Maybe we like the Ohio State people.

We're building friendships over here. Rose, the man of the people. Building bridges. I love to see it. Maybe they'll be nicer to me when i go to columbus next time oh no they won't i i was gonna say too like i've been to every single ohio state game home and away since 2016 and you know what i'm i'm not like over it i'm still gonna go this year like It's not like I've given up. I definitely don't feel the same way that I did in 2016.

But I think that that's where people are like, oh, fuck Michigan. I'm not going to that game until they win one. I've literally seen it with my own two eyes every single year. Maybe I'm a moron for continuing to go i am you know gotta support your team no there's something to be said for like a passionate fan base right i think your penn state example was actually a really good example but like look at those teams down south right sec teams they can be having a terrible season and the stadium's still full crowd you know is still doing some crazy cheer or whatever and like that environment really makes the program and so the

fact that we haven't like really developed that fan culture i feel like and have that like devoted fan culture does kind of hurt the program in some ways. Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, what? We see Penn State, they've got a devoted fan culture. A&M, BAM, I mean, basically every SEC school, Big 12 school, but you don't see it at Michigan. Even a bunch of Big Ten schools.

I mean, Michigan just doesn't have it. The Blue Hairs, man, that's what I'm going to blame it on. Blue Hairs and the fucking people that are old as shit running things and it's they're they're just it's a no fun zone it is a no fun zone it is i mean but i think to you guys point you know auburn's probably beat alabama the same number of times that we've beaten ohio state or close to it it's like that lopsided i think auburn's better off than we are. At least I can remember the last few. Everybody is better off than we are.

But, I mean, it's like – it's kind of similar. I feel like since the kick six they haven't won, have they? Yeah, they did. They won two or three years ago. Did they? Yeah. I feel like Auburn wins every three or four years. Yeah, Michigan's more like Texas.

What was that? Michigan's more like a Texasxas yeah you're like they always talk about how great they are at the beginning of the season and then you know big turd and then oklahoma comes in and puts up 78 points on them what i heard something with uh paul feinbaum earlier this week or uh some other ESPN reporter was like, Texas, you know, they look great. They got Coach Sark. Like, they're going to really be a force

and all this stuff. And then they go to Feinbaum and he goes like, yeah, Texas is irrelevant. I don't even know what we're talking about. See that? We talked about this a long time ago, but that's why I'm glad that Michigan didn't get Matt Campbell.

There's no expectations for Michigan to do well this year. I'm glad we didn't go through an offseason with that. That's true. Yeah, but I would love to have a little bit of optimism. I know. But you just get crushed.

You know? It's a nice break from the norm. I agree with that. I agree with that. We needed it after a 2-4 season, too. Jesus Christ. I still forget we went fucking 2-4. I agree with that. We needed it after a two and four season too. Like Jesus Christ. Like I still forget. We went fucking two and four.

I know. Let's say like we went two and four, we get Matt Campbell in the off season and it's just like, everyone's like all of a sudden back on the hype train and train all over again. Like, even though the talent is still the same as it's going to be where we are now.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, all right. So the, uh, the other thing for oh ohio state and i apologize because it's it is june 9th and we've talked about ohio state the entire podcast but it's it's like all over social right now too so michigan finally puts up something in the locker room they haven't had the clock going since brady hoke they haven't had a whole lot up that is about ohio state in quite some time now and they put up you know it

went all over social media when you know barstool did a whole uh story on it as well but it said what did it say what are you doing to beat oh Ohio state today? Yeah. And so what do you guys think? Is this like, all right, finally we're actually prioritizing this game. We're making it meaningful. We, uh, Jim's, you know, making it seem that this is more important than every other game. Um, or is it like too little too late? Like really you're doing this, you know, when they, after they've beaten you six times in a row, like really you're doing this you know when they after they've beaten you six times in a row like you know what do you i've got i've got two things on it so i i i mean we've talked

about this forever i'm glad they have some sort of motivation up in the weight room to to signify that this is an important game and this is what Michigan football is all about. Right? Like you're supposed to be at Ohio state. That's how you succeed. The fact that what is said is the only thing up there is the only thing that we've seen that is up there is not my favorite. I wish it could be something else. You know, again, I'm glad it's up there, you know, better, better late than never. I'm glad it's up there you know better better late than never i'm glad it's something second thing that ohio's taint article from barstool sports that fucking idiot does he not know that ohio state has michigan shit covering their walls in their weight room

that i mean what a fucking dickhead that guy he's a loser a loser. And, like, I'm a Barstool fan. Like, I'm a fan of, like, a lot of their content and a lot of their guys. Oh, yeah, 100%. You know, but, like, and it's, I mean, if Barstool, what is it, Barstool Tate, that's what it is? Ohio's Tate. Ohio's Tate. Might as well be Ohio's Taint. Yeah, yeah, I like that.

I mean, obviously I'm going to hate him just because he's an ohio state guy but like that's a fucking loser article that's a loser article for the where you could like it's the winningest team and you can almost not go wrong with it and he still made it into a loser article where it was like very obvious like you said they have an actual shrine to the game in their own locker room and they talk about it all day every day and then he mocks michigan for putting one thing up i mean if anything the route he should have taken was this is the only thing you have up in the weight room that's why we kill you guys every year you know you should see what ohio state hits on michigan yeah but he's like oh they have something

in in the uh in their weight room about ohio state it's likeigan yeah but he's like oh they have something in in the uh in their weight room about ohio state it's like yeah it's like dude what are you talking about do you even know your program how do i know your program better than you know your program exactly that that was what pissed me off the most was like people being like oh my god ohio state lives rent free in michigan's head first of all they have that shrine second of all it's a rivalry that's what rivalries are you live rent free in each other's head that's a michigan michigan state it's michigan ohio state it's michigan notre dame a lot of times like that's the point of college athletics and that's the point of rivalries that you play over and over again is that's why it

makes it fun caitlin what do you got yeah mean, I'm kind of on Jack's team there. I mean, I'm glad they have something. What they do have is not my favorite. But, like, I can't complain too much, right? Right. You're just like, okay, like, it's better than what you had before. It's a step in the right direction. Yeah.

Go ahead, Kalen. It's like, it's a step in the right direction yeah but i would go ahead kill it's like it's like no i i really have nothing to say it's it's good and it's bad that's pretty much it what i what i would love is constant like low lights of the game like past the last 10 years this is what's happened last 10 years you've been you've been killed you've been mocked you've been all of this have the countdown clock right above it you know something that's like really motivational like i don't i don't mind what have you done to you know today to beat ohio state like maybe put that on like a little plaque above the entrance to the weight room you, you see it every day before you go in. And then when you go in, you've got that little whatever. But again, I can't complain too much. It's better than nothing. It's a step in the right direction. But I would just love a little bit more, you know? Yeah, I think like

you can have that. What have you done to beat Ohio State today? But then like below that should be the score of the game for the past 10 years yeah i what i would do is i'd put like a play of each each of the guys that are in the weight room when they're coming in to lift it's a constant loop of them getting absolutely burnt by an ohio state guy hey yeah you want you want us to stop playing this don't get fucking burnt and that's pretty simple we're gonna keep playing this until you do that. It's negative reinforcement. I'd play it on a loop of 2016 when what's-his-nuts, the running back, like, jumped into the end zone.

Curtis Samuel. Curtis Samuel. That left Brent free in my head, I'll tell you that. I know. I see that come on on Twitter, and I scroll as quickly as possible past it. So, I mean, I'm just saying I would hope that the players care as much as we care about that and it lives there. Because, like, that would piss me off every day. And I think I would be able to put on 10 more pounds on the squat rack that day if I would, like, went over and watched that shit, you know? And again, for us, like, not to say that we don't think the players do.

Yeah. We don't care enough right like it's like it's just this michigan culture that it seems like the university won't you know they won't accept it and they don't like you know they don't fight for this to be like a big thing and like you know say that we really do care about beating ohio state it's like oh we're above it all kind of thing you know, like embrace that culture of like they're kicking your ass and like, you know, get these kids motivated any way you can. Right. And I think I think it was a couple of years ago now. Urban Meyer had that like, how do you respect a rivalry speech he gave to his team?

And part of that is like engaging in the rivalry, but not in like a not in a way where I feel like we were doing it for a while, guaranteeing wins, things like that. It's more like, you know, the day in, day out grind. And that was kind of what he was preaching to his team. And you can tell they obviously have embraced that. And we are barely scratching the surface. There were actually a former,

a couple of formerio state players that that went on twitter and they both said like one of them said i had no idea what this rivalry was before i came to ohio state like he was from you know somewhere else not from michigan ohio state or whatever and he said within a few months i already i hadn't even played Michigan yet. I already hated them. And then he also said, but it felt like when we played them, he was like, it felt like I hated them and they didn't hate me back for some reason. And so, like, you know, whether you want to say, yeah, Michigan players, I'm sure they care.

Like, we're not, like you said, Jack, it's not like we're, like, saying that they don't give a shit about the game. But, I mean, when the opposing team, like, says that they can feel the difference, then that's saying something, right? Yeah. You know what this reminds me of? Ro, I don't know if you can relate to this, but, Jack, this reminds me of when we were, like, playing baseball at Pioneer. And, like, one of the coaches was like, Huron's your big rival. And we were like,

Huron's ass, dude. Maybe inner city, but I don't care. Yeah, Huron was like our, I'm saying this like how Michigan and Michigan State are supposed to be. Huron was like our Michigan State where Michigan should be dominating them.

And Salim was our Ohio State. That was the big big game we got up for that was what we were excited for um but yeah fucking here on that's funny yeah i mean that but it just it just seems like i don't know what do you because i i do say we were talking about it last night too like you kind of are in a no-win situation when you put this stuff up you put it up and some people are going to say finally but other people are going to be like are you kidding me you can't even beat them why are you putting that up there you know so it's like you're always going to get shit on there's always going to be comments for every michigan football post on instagram in the comments, please beat Ohio state. You suck.

Just don't care. You know, don't care about your facilities, beat Ohio state, blah, blah, blah. Like until you do beat them,

you are in a no win situation. Right. So it's a little bit tough there, but like, you know, like you guys said, at least it's something I'll take anything at this point. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. So, all right. Well, right? Yeah. All right. Well, I don't know. Do you guys got anything else you want to touch on? We got a tweet while we were on here as well. It said, I would never sell my tickets to a Bucknut. I'd burn them instead.

Dave, countdown Dave on Twitter. We need more of you, man. We need more of you. I love it. Maybe that's what we need to do. We just need to have some sort of powwow in front of the big house on Ohio State Day and just be like, if you sold your tickets to a Buckeye fan, you're not allowed in. We'll get those signs out there jesus hates the buckeyes

we got the horns that's like the speakers oh man geez all right well that is enough that's enough ohio state talk for june will you we'll try and keep away for the next two months or something. I'm sure we won't be able to, but we'll try. There's no way. There's no way. I will say, so another very, very interesting, I don't even know what you want to call it, wild story, obviously,

not a great story for Michigan, is this whole Schembechler-Dr. Anderson thing with, you know, back when Dr. Anderson was treating football players and other athletes, he was sexually harassing them. Apparently, you know, these athletes are coming forward saying that Bo knew about it. And now the biggest thing that came out earlier today was that Bo's adopted son was also sexually harassed by Dr. Anderson. And Bo even covered that up is is what he's saying. And so apparently, you know, what's going to come out tomorrow is this.

I think his name is Matt. Matt Schembechler. He's going to come out publicly and talk about it. And wow, this could be a very wild ride you know i don't know maybe there's like a tearing down of the statue like you know i don't even know i mean in the next week there could be um i was told by somebody that like the the changing of a building name for anything is all at the university level, not the athletic department level. So in the process takes a really long time.

So they won't be able to do that right away, but they may be able to take the statue down or do some of that stuff. But it's just kind of weird because it's been the team, the team, the team for a really long time now. And it's been all about Bo and all that stuff and we've tried to get back to that blah blah blah it's gonna be weird guys yeah I mean you know it's a it's a Joe Paterno type scandal that's a lot of information is coming out I mean you look at you know their careers at each university I mean Joe Paterno and Bo Schembechler are pretty much kind

of down the same road and I mean going along this line too I mean, Joe Paterno and Bo Schembechler were pretty much kind of down the same road. And, I mean, going along this line, too, I mean, obviously, just feel awful for these kids that went through that and that got covered up. And, I mean, shit. Schembechler's adopted son, like, that's, I mean, poor kid, man. I mean, I just hope these kids

are getting taken care of and, you know, we'll see what happens, I guess. I mean i mean yeah like you said i mean it's been the team the team of team for a while that's a that's a whole rebrand at that point yeah that's that's a great yeah i never looked at it from that perspective so we'll have to uh you know just hold on and see where this goes yeah i mean the weirdest part, too, is that it was only, I think, less than a week ago that Harbaugh came out himself and somewhat defended Bowe. He gave his personal experience and said, the Bowe I knew didn't let, you know, didn't sweep anything under the rug. He didn't give any specifics or anything like that.

It was a bit of a non-answer from Harbaugh, but only gave his own experience. But a lot of people took it in the way that he was defending Bo and all this stuff. And then this comes out right after. So I think everyone's in a really weird spot right now. And it'll be really interesting to see how it all plays out. None of it's going to be good. I'll say that. It's not good for anyone.

So and I think you have to think about, you know, you want to defend Michigan, of course, and you're, you know, as a fan, as alumni out there, as former players, all that stuff. But you got to think about the survivors and all that stuff, too. It's, you know, I think take it all into perspective and think that there are actual people out there as well. So it'll be interesting. But that is not a an off-season topic we were expecting to cover this year i don't think we're not at all quarterback situation harbaugh new coaches weren't expecting that so um we'll see how that plays out all right you guys

got anything you want to touch on before we take off here i am golden all right nothing for me all right well we'll probably have a lot more to talk about there uh by by next week and probably a lot more recruiting uh i know basketball recruiting is starting to hype up a lot too i mean amazing difference between like every time i see something about basketball recruiting it's completely positive and every time i see something about football recruiting it's completely positive and every time i see something about football recruiting it's negative and so it's like wild where those two different programs are at but we'll have an update there and we'll have an update on a lot of the other stuff that's going on so um you can follow us at blue by 90 on twitter instagram facebook at blue by 90 podcast on youtube as well uh and we will see you guys next week go blue go blue go blue