Blue By Ninety - E72: Name, Image & Likeness
Episode Date: July 2, 2021It is finally July and the NIL laws are now in effect for athletes to make some money. The boys talk about what this looks like so far and wonder if any changes will be made for past athletes. Crack a... cold one and enjoy the show.
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All right, welcome back to Blue by 90.
I am Justin, joined by Jack and Kalen, as always.
It is, holy shit, it's July.
Oh my God, July 1st.
I don't, I mean, I am really looking forward to football season, like want it to be fall.
But also, guys, I'm not ready for summer to just like fly by like it does every single year.
Dude, I'm actually totally opposite of you.
I'm kind of like KFC put that video up on Instagram.
And he's like, dude, summer is just not the same when you're adult. It's the same as like every other part of the year you're just sweating and like that's me i just
fucking sweat all the time heather thought it was a great idea to have the ac off today and have the
windows open so it's only supposed to be a high of 75 and i'm getting to 82 i'm in my house sweating
my balls off i got a cranked ac on it's uh i don't know man i'm ready for fall not only for
cooler weather but we're another month closer to tailgating.
And football, like you said.
That's the real story, right?
I mean, there's really only one season that matters.
Tailgating season.
That's right, baby.
I agree.
I will say this.
Like, we've kind of talked about it before.
I am 150% excited for tailgating. I'm about 20 percent excited for the actual football season
so yeah either one i mean i'm excited either way yeah the math that math definitely adds up
um but i just i want to enjoy like some beaches and some boats and some stuff i want to enjoy some beaches and some boats and some stuff. I want to enjoy 80-degree weather in the summer.
Unlike Jack, I actually enjoy being outside and being in warm weather.
Too hot.
Yeah.
I mean, 82 is not too hot.
I feel like that's pretty normal.
I will say the humidity lately has been fucked.
It's been ridiculous.
It's been ridiculous. It's been ridiculous.
So, Kalen, which side of that are you on?
Are you pro-heat or are you anti-heat?
Oh, dude, don't ask me.
I'm like, if it's hotter, like, the hotter, the better.
Like, it could be, like, 100, and I would be like, this is a little warm.
Fuck you. Liar. Too hot. could be like a hundred and i would be like this is a little warm like fuck you liar too hot i uh
you know jacklyn is the same like her dad's from florida too and so like they're like they want it
to be like 95 and her mom is is went to school down there too she plays softball at florida
and they're like she'll like put a jacket on if it's like 84 it's like jesus you're i'm not quite there that that's like almost a psychopath
can't live with those kind of people tell me about it she's sitting there with a jacket on
i'm like pitting out you know that's usually how it goes so all right so july 1st it means that we're like a third of the way through the summer
and one month closer to uh to football season it also means which was probably the biggest
college news all time maybe it's up there pretty up. But name image likeness is now into effect officially from the NCAA,
and college athletes can now make money.
And my first reaction was this.
We tweeted this out from BlueEye90.
Did it not seem like, okay, everyone's been, like,
fighting over this for, like, 10 years,
and NCAA football went away because of it and all this stuff.
And then all of a sudden, the NCAA is like, so do you guys want it July 1st?
Does that sound good?
How about tomorrow?
And then it just all happened.
And now everything's just going haywire.
Well, that's just one thing.
I was kind of confused.
Wasn't it always the plan for July 1st?
Yeah, but didn't it – I mean, since when?
I thought it was three months ago.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I thought it was going to happen.
I wasn't going to follow it closely enough for, like, you know,
for that to be, like, factual.
Like, I was like, oh, it's going to be, like, over the summer.
I don't know.
I can't really read, so it's not – like, I didn't know any news
that came from it
so yeah i thought literally your illiteracy has fucked us once again i thought there was like some
like like a bunch of states passed a number of laws saying they could have name image likeness
by july 1 that might be where it was from that might be where i saw that number and then the
ncaa was trying to like battle that and they took it like all the way up to some iop court and then very recently
they lost in court or something like that and then like within the last week or two and so
that's why it kind of was just like boom july maybe that's what it was then maybe i wasn't
paying attention to the fact that the ncaa could have just like shut it down dude the ncaa rules all and they're the worst people in the world and so i'm sure that
ncaa president mark emmer is just like crying in his office today like oh my god i make a billion
dollars a year god forbid one of these athletes makes 10 grand off of an autograph i will say i i can't
stand the people that are like oh my god this is gonna ruin all of college sports all everything
is you know it's just a pro that's gonna ruin these kids blah blah blah is it gonna change
everything yes it's 100 going to change everything? Yes.
It's 100% going to change everything.
Is some of it maybe going to change for the worse?
And there's going to be some things that come out of this that are like, ah, damn, there's some issue with a feud between this offensive lineman
and the quarterback.
Yeah, there will be some of that.
But guess what?
These kids have been not making money for decades upon decades where they could
have and it's probably a good thing and especially if you're a michigan fan this is a really good
thing you got top five brand in the nation that kids will want to come to and it's going to help
recruiting absolutely no doubt i was going to say too i saw something on uh twitter it's hardly
unnecessary roughness or
something like that but i mean you gotta think kids are gonna be fighting for playing time
even more than they already are now it's like oh shit i could make a bug or two you know more time
more often i'm on the field more often i'm making plays more often i'm doing this more if i'm doing
that not not saying that you know college athletes ever had an issue with that before um but you know there's an
actual monetary incentivation or an incentive i'm sorry word incentivization that they can get
you know in real time instead of having to you know technically wait till they get signed by a
team from the nfl you know i don't know. Might see something there.
Might not.
Talking out of my ass right now.
I have no idea.
No, I think you're right in a way.
Like, I think where it becomes difficult is that for Michigan fans, at least,
like, they're going to have to prove it on the field for a lot of us, right?
Like, yeah, there's name, name image likeness out there now but like it's hard for me to pick anybody besides maybe like an Aiden Hutchinson who I would say like yeah I would be interested in
their brand because I haven't really seen a whole lot from any of these guys on the team to justify
me going and spending like 50 on a shirt you know what i mean
yeah right yes the timing like yeah it would come to like the fall time right like somebody has a
big game all right i'm gonna go spend some money on their shit right so it would be more so down
the road not necessarily right now as far as what i'm saying but um i agree with you 100 i think it
would be really cool.
Let's say Aiden Hutchinson has a game-winning sack against, you know,
Michigan State or something like that,
and then, like, puts a picture on a T-shirt or something and then sells it on the next Sunday.
Like, that's pretty sick, right?
I'd probably go buy a couple things like that.
But I think, you know, where it gets hairy is, like, all right think you know when it gets where it gets hairy is like all right you know this car
dealership all of a sudden just gives them a car for signing one autograph you know it's like i
don't i don't care i don't give a shit but i think that like that's where things get weird right
isn't that not an issue now though i thought that like they could do that shit now right i'm i know but it's i i think
yes you're right like they can do whatever i i don't know maybe there's gonna be some stipulations
on like there's maybe there's gonna be a cap but like a a cap on how much you can make for a certain
amount of signed items or certain things i don't know i could see the ncaa definitely trying to to like handle that right
where do you really see this becoming like a problem though like i'm kind of like hey man
if the kid wants to drive some challenger to practice cool you know like i guess i don't
really see where it becomes i could see i could see some locker room issues i could see that the quarterback you know is just
just drowning in money and he's driving six camaros to to the to the practice facility
and his center like isn't making anything or is making a fraction of that even though his center
may be like a first round draft pick and the quarterback's not even that good and then there's like i don't know there's some friction there could you see that i mean i feel
like they could kind of be that already in a way like a kid who comes from a high class background
got a lot of coaching came to school and a kid who maybe worked really hard from a lower class
background and so they come from you know different socioeconomic kind of backgrounds and they're in the same uh locker room i guess it's different if
like it's personally your money right like and you're yeah you know you're a 19 year old kid
you're getting flashy with it right you got 10 rings on or something like i don't know yeah i
can see it i mean i think these kids are coming from different
socioeconomic backgrounds anyway like some kids are already pulling up to practice and fucking
chargers and some kids are riding fucking scooters right like i i see where you guys are coming from
if they're coming around flashing and all around talking about it to their teammates like all that
kind of shit like maybe it could cause some issues but i mean i'm sure that kind of shit happens in
the nfl or you know you got the superstar guy making a shit ton of money you're also probably making a
shit ton of money but they're making like a shit ton way more and they're upset about it i mean
i could see it i'm gonna assume it's not gonna be an issue what i'm almost thinking is it's
gonna level the playing field for recruiting among the power you know the power five teams um just because
that way let's say you're going to bama you've got a hundred fucking five stars you know going
there and like different you know fans buying maybe just let's just go back to a couple years
ago um fucking jalen waddle stuff and then you know maybe davante
smith but maybe not at the time where if he went to you know michigan everybody buying his shit at
michigan it's like a larger you know if not as large um fan base and you know you're you're
getting all that money instead of just like a little portion of that money like maybe that
that could play into it where i think it could level the playing field among you know different
teams and only focusing on this fan base instead of like having
your stuff divided between 20 guys in this fan base i mean depends what your goal is right like
you want to win national championship do you want to make money do you want to get a bunch of playing
time like i think it's just an additional thing that will go into recruiting pitches and yeah
maybe it'll work out for some teams maybe it won't i don't know
that's a good point do you guys think that this will help maybe some like smaller more under the
radar teams kind of like maybe grab a you know a five star or a high four star that might be able
to transform their team that's what i'm thinking i think you might see more of that yeah just because of that right
like they'd be the big name on that team so everybody wants to buy stuff that relates to them
you know yeah i mean i definitely think you know let's say let's talk about like maybe a boise state
for example lower level team that probably only has like probably not zero five stars and maybe a couple four stars.
If you're the one five star that goes to Boise, everyone's buying only your gear.
Right. Right. Right. Jack's point. It's like you're a five star that goes to Bama.
You're one of 20 on the team and you're you may you know, the fan base is obviously way bigger at Bama.
So maybe equals out a bit.
But like, you're not that one guy.
Right.
So I agree with that.
That's going to be interesting.
One thing I thought about, too, is like, all right, I don't know what these contracts or whatever with, let's say, a car dealership or something.
So let's say a car dealership gives some kid a deal, right?
And they're going to do five commercials or something for him.
Well, let's say they get to three commercials, the season ends,
the kid wants to transfer out.
Is he, like, bound to that contract?
Or can the car dealership say, hey, we had you in contract
because of your name at Michigan, because of the brand at Michigan.
You can't transfer and go to Akron.
These car dealerships or these commercials don't mean as much to us anymore.
Like, I don't know.
I'm sure that would be written in the contract somewhere.
I think you're saying, though, yeah.
I mean, they'd have to be smart about getting these contracts written up and it's like, you know, written up and all that stuff.
I mean, it's like, you know, they're literally a professional at this point.
It's been admitted now that they are professional athletes to a degree.
And, you know, there's got to be professional contracts.
But, yeah, like, I mean, that could nullify the contract.
Maybe you have to give the money back at that point. Right.
Like, yeah, that's where it gets like kind of shady. Yeah.
And the other thing is, you know, these are, like we're saying, younger 19, 20, 21-year-old kids.
We see it all the time, right?
Baker Mayfield getting drunk on the corner.
You know that kind of stuff is going to come up.
What do you guys think?
Like, how is that going to be handled?
I mean, they're going to get some good bar promotions.
They're not allowed to.
That was like they came out and said, like, you can't get any NCAA banned substance, no tobacco.
I think it said no alcohol, no gambling. I saw BYU said you can't do coffee.
Yeah, BYU said you can't do coffee because you're not allowed to have coffee as a Mormon.
Wait, what?
Yeah, Mormons can't have coffee because you're not allowed to have coffee as a mormon wait what yeah mormons can't have coffee they see it as a drug wow i mean i can't disagree i mean it's the drug i take it's definitely i mean it's the
it's the biggest drug that i indulge in oh fuck it i interesting all right today i don't know that
yeah they also can soaking and
you gotta be crazy to go to byu man
either that or you it's like a complete lie man i just don't don't get it. I'm sorry. I know I live maybe a different life than them, but wow.
Oh, my goodness.
I don't know.
Oh, God.
So, I mean, I think if you're a lawyer, though, like getting back to it,
if you're a lawyer, you're calling every single one of these kids because.
Fuck yeah.
I mean, I feel like that maybe, Kalen, you asked like the negatives.
There's going to be some kids that get into legal trouble with this because they just kind of just say yes.
They aren't reading through it.
They get bad advice from somebody.
And then all of a sudden, there are going to be some people that probably like get into debt or something because of this.
Like in the bottom, like last, like like fine print it says like you have to pay
all this back plus some or some i don't know there's gonna be some shit people scamming people
right yeah dude when i was 18 if you said like hey you know sell these gummy worms and i'll give
you 15 grand i would have been like hell yeah i would have not even thought twice. And then I would have, you know, soaked them in vodka and ate them for TikTok.
And then, you know, now it's a problem.
I would like to assume that the universities are ahead of this, right?
And they like gave seminars or fucking whatever to these kids, like saying like, hey, if you're you're gonna do this go about it the right way get a lawyer read the contracts do all this stuff where if it was like
us like the fuck kids care about us why are we getting offered shit like we wouldn't know what
the fuck's going on we'd be like oh sweet 15 grand like kaylen said right like sure i'll do it
yeah the i if michigan was really on top of, they would have like a whole department that's like, oh, you want to set your business up?
OK, like we're going to help you. I feel like one of you guys brought this up on another podcast before.
Because you're right. You should do that. Should be a thing like we have this department now to set you up for success.
Yeah. And you can run your business once you get here boom 100 100 like rashaun gary when he
he like created the uh his like agency right or whatever like i would do that shit right away
or i would i i mean obviously a lot of these guys are doing merch but like whatever i would become
a businessman you know essentially and even if i'm not like actually running it it's just my name on it i have my buddy or my you know consultant or whoever running it and i would get that shit
like because you i i think that what people don't realize i think people realize it but this is the
point is like there are so many people that are i think of a nick stauskas just an absolute stud you know all big 10 all american
all this stuff in in uh in college he went to the nba for a little bit now he's overseas i think
might be back in the nba but like it's not like he's making like billions of dollars so you want
guys like that to or like a xavier simpson for example you want guys like that to be able
to make some money off of what they're doing now instead of like thinking about oh well they'll all
make it at some point in the nfl or in the nba or in the mlb they don't you know and so like
i even think i think the big thing that we haven't even touched on yet is women's sports
a lot of these women's sports
don't have really good professional leagues out there you know even softball the the national
what is the mpf national pro fast pitch they get paid like 10 grand for a summer and so they have
to make their money off of doing camps all year round they get a few endorsements they play a
couple other things but it's like you know for for girls that are playing in the college world series the
softball college world series like make your money then because that's probably going to be the height
of you on espn right yeah yeah the women's league just don't get enough recognition, right? Like, yeah, you're right, 100%. Yeah, I mean, I would love to see this kind of elevate a lot of those lesser sports that – I don't want to say lesser sports.
Lesser recognized.
Lesser recognized.
Yeah.
That don't get recognized, right?
Like, that's, I think, where this could really shine.
Yeah.
Totally.
Fucking hockey.
A sport that does kind of get recognized, but, like, you know, this could really up it for them.
Because there's some diehard fucking hockey fans.
Like, Michigan softball fans are just fucking diehards for that.
I know that's for sure.
Holy shit.
I'm thinking of, like, just cameos alone.
Right?
Yeah.
Like, I think every – i thought about it yesterday like we should have all been
buying stock in cameo last night because there are gonna be a hundred thousand new accounts made
today you know and so like i i don't know i i'd probably pay 10 bucks for isaiah livers to give
a shout out or something just for fun to my buddy like yeah i don't know little shit like that
like it's kind of fun and it's not going to break the bank but it's like fuck i gotta go go out
tonight go to dinner let me do a couple cameos real quick exactly like you know 10 of those that
he does it's 100 bucks right and maybe he's charging 25 i have no idea but either way i
think it's good um did you see i i saw a lot of the football guys they what
was it yoke gaming yeah yeah so is that i i'm not a gamer really is that like they're they're on
twitch or whatever they're essentially what it sounds like is they're a brand that allows you to play famous people in sports.
So like,
I think you saw on there,
it's like, uh,
AJ Henning.
Um,
it might've been Mike Samuels still to you.
It could be a way I could have,
I could have that wrong,
but I think AJ Henning,
uh,
he's on there.
He's like,
yeah,
play me in fucking Madden or two K or something like that.
And then people can,
I believe pay to go on there.
I don't even know if you have to pay to be honest,
but you can go on there
and you can play them like fucking 2k that's right and then i i think you can also like watch as well
and i'm sure there's like ads in there and everything right yeah i saw i saw brandon
tweeted out that he said he said since uh michigan doesn't have their players available for the media
can i try and get an interview with them on Yolk Gaming?
That's awesome.
Can I play them and interview them while I'm playing
since they won't let me talk to them normally?
That's hilarious.
Classic.
I would love hearing those ad libs
while he just gets dunked on in 2K or something.
Fucking A, man. Good days. well he just gets dunked on in 2k or something fucking a man good days um i so also the other
thing with it is dave portnoy just man of the people you know i mean it's so funny he tweeted
it out too he's like the barstool what does he call it barstool athletes inc he's like it's the
most barstool thing.
He's like, I didn't know what to do about this two hours ago and just started tweeting it out.
Now we can't handle things that are going on.
It's like we've got more capacity than what we can handle.
So I don't know.
Maybe Hunter Dickinson.
He's been on some Barstool podcasts.
Yeah.
Maybe Hunter Dickinson is going to be a Barstool athlete.
Never know. Fucking I would love it that'd be amazing i get some barstool hunter dickinson gear dude that's sick think about all the merch that they're i mean barstool throws out a shit ton of
merch already like they're just gonna keep going through it i mean i am gonna be a little upset if
there's a barstool big dickinson energy probably probably will be probably there will be for sure yeah and then we're gonna get a seasoned assist letter
yeah i know quick copyright it yeah oh my god i can't wait to get a seasoned assist from
dave portnoy and erica we'll frame that shit oh yeah yeah by the way um so last weekend i was out in detroit jack you were
too uh soaking wet soaking wet but we ended up we got trapped in the city of detroit for like 24
hours it was insanity but that's a that's a story for another day i went to greektown at three in
the morning because there was nowhere else to go and I was homeless.
That Barstool
sportsbook in Greektown is
sick.
We gotta go there.
There's like, I mean, obviously there's a bar.
It's really cool. Dave and Big Cat's
faces are all over the place.
It's kind of crazy. I was thinking
when we were down there, I was like, why the fuck did we not go to Greektown?
I know.
On the way out, I saw the fucking sign from Barstool It's kind of crazy. I was thinking we were down there. I was like, why the fuck did we not go to Greektown? I know. I know.
Because I felt like on the way out, I saw the fucking sign from Barstool Sportsbook.
I was like, huh, interesting.
I totally forgot about this.
It turns out when you have like 15 beers and a few shots that your brain doesn't work.
You can't like think about it.
But we should do that for the finals.
Let's go to Bar barstool sportsbook boys
hopefully it makes it to game seven we can bet on game seven lose all our money love it
love it love it um all right what else what else do we got to talk about i know that was
the nil was like it's just dominating the i mean this i don't know how far this conversation will
get us but Fab Five
oh yeah right what happens with the
Fab Five what happens to everybody that got like
kinda you know fucked over in the
past because they're making money
or not making money you know who knows whatever's
going on did you see Chris Webber's
tweet I did
I was kind of surprised
because Chris was like
he's like not with it for Michigan a little bit, you know?
I wish he was in that documentary.
I know.
Did I ever tell you guys that like, so apparently back when Beeline was here,
Beeline had reached out over and over and over again to try and get him to come back.
Really?
Yeah, and he like didn't respond, nothing, nothing.
And then Harbaugh did, and he went and was a captain,
honorary captain for football.
Maybe he just didn't want to be around the basketball stuff?
I don't know.
I mean, that's weird.
He picked up beeline, right?
Right, that is strange.
I thought it was anything against beeline,
but it was, like, this super weird situation internally
that, like, he, he like didn't want to be
i guess associated like you said but would do it for would do it for harbaugh so who knows i don't
know but um i i don't know he seems like he wants the the banners back and this could be the time
that he comes back to chrysler with juwan and they do a whole thing that seems kind of like
the perfect time to do it right it would be fucking awesome it would be awesome if that
happens like put the banners back up i saw they've got um some of the they didn't have this in chrysler
before in their practice uh practice arena or practice courts whatever you want to call it
they've got like all the like um I think it's the Final Four appearances,
like national titles and stuff up there.
I noticed they didn't have the Fab Five era,
but they had
all the ones before that,
2013, the picture cut off
before the 2018 or whatever that was.
But I thought
that was cool.
To derail the conversation, I'm just going to blurt that out right now.
Anyway.
I thought that was cool.
Okay, cool.
Thank you.
Thanks for your input, Jack.
You know, I just want to say thank you to everybody that listens to this podcast because I don't know why you do it.
You guys are troopers.
I'll tell you that right now.
Shout out David Mays and uh caleb barn thank you yeah shout out shout out oh god um yeah i mean the banners coming back would be sweet i think you know like it was kind of
interesting all of it all the people coming out obviously chris weber like we just said
but also like reggie bush coming out you know he
got the the heisman taken away and he's like he i i didn't read it but he put out some statement
about it too he said he never cheated and like he got framed or some shit like that i don't know
but i think it's like it's a little weird because yes this coming out now means that like they're recognizing college athletes as pros
but the people that got that violated this in the past still you know broke the rules right so it's
like they got them i don't know i feel like that's like a little bit it is and i feel like it's
similar to you know like weed being legalized right like there's pretty a little bit it is and i feel like it's similar to you know like weed being
legalized right like there's pretty sure there's a law or something was passed saying you know you
can either review or something along those lines anybody who was sent to prison on like weed
charges right like possession of like anything less than a certain amount or something like that
i feel like this is similar to that,
or maybe something like that could get passed and then, you know,
Reggie Bush or whoever, you know, could, you know,
bring it to court or wherever they need to go to get it reviewed to see if it
can be overturned. You know, I don't,
I feel like that's kind of where this will head.
I hope we see, I hope we see a Reggie.
I hope we see the Heisman Trophy in the Supreme Court.
They have it on the stand and it's like Reggie versus the NCAA.
Oh, I fucking love it.
John Roberts just holding it up like he won it.
Oh, man.
Going back to it, though, did we about johnny manziel and what he said
on mike studs podcast uh or not no busting with the boys said it on the bar so busting with the
boys about yeah the dude gave him like 30k or something for the signatures yeah yeah he's like
dude you made three dollars a signature he's like yeah it's one fucking money
like dude that's so many signatures for i know 30 grand's a lot of money too but like yeah
donnie manziel was the king back then i feel like he got a bed oh yeah oh terrible deal yeah
uh i i there's definitely other guys doing that right like that's fucking hilarious when he came
out with it i love it i i want i want all those stories to start coming out of like fuck yeah
like zion's got to come out and be like yeah every single school paid me a billion dollars
to try and get there right finally paid me a billion and one and I went there. Fucking A. All those Adidas, like the FBI stuff of Adidas agents paying and Nike agents paying.
Like, I want all that to come out now and the NCAA to just get flipped on their head.
Like, oh, we didn't know any of this was going on.
No way.
Oh, the 30 for 30 on this is going to be incredible.
It is.
It is. It is.
It will be.
Well, there were rumors out there that Rashaun said that Clemson offered 300K, right?
So that means Michigan offered him 350, right?
Hey, maybe.
Maybe he just wanted a really good education you know yeah i don't know
man i don't know that jim harbaugh just whispering in his ear right yeah i'll tell you what i'd take
the fucking 350 i'd take percent i i i would never be down 300 that's for sure yeah i wouldn't turn down $300,000. Not for zero. $5,000. All right, I'll go over here. Fine.
So, I don't know.
That would be really funny, and it'll be really interesting if guys like Johnny Manziel go on different podcasts and start, like, telling their stories.
Because what are they going to do now?
You know?
It's like now it's like.
They're not going to go back and, you know, do anything. Yeah, they're not starting to punish people you know it's like now it's not going to go back and you know do
anything they're not starting to punish people for that and stuff like that so that that'll be
interesting to see what happens there um but all right was there i know we that was like all nil
we're going to talk a little bit about recruiting but recruiting is also like all over the place
man i i don't know there have been a million different people that have signed, committed,
offered, visited, that type of stuff.
Just because like June was that crazy month,
there was a dead period up until June 1st.
So I don't even know who's like, who's hot on.
I know there's Clayton put out something that they're going to be a
bunch of recruits coming very soon so hopefully we'll see some um yeah i mean the one thing i
would say about recruiting is that like the michigan fan base just needs to like kind of
shut up about like stars right like i saw some caring i saw some people well i saw some people
like saying some kind of like nasty stuff to some
kids who were like three stars and i was just like dude like come on man these are kids they're doing
really well they're getting recruited which is exactly why they're what they're out there playing
for so like and we picked them up so what's there to be displeased about? Like, shut up, Twitter, you know?
So that would be my one message on recruiting.
Yeah, I mean, in general, I think, yeah.
I don't know.
There's a couple things there.
Like, some people are like, stars don't matter, right?
And I think that is not quite true but i think you don't have to read
completely into stars the same way that like people were pissed about uh us getting that cj
stokes kid who's a three-star running back while meanwhile our current starting running back was a
three-star you know so to your point kaylin it's like
guys can pan out and guys cannot pan out so joshu jay and jace winovich right like both those guys
fucking stubs for michigan three stars like yeah i'm all calmed down i'm all for like legit
criticism you know like on that but when you're like saying stuff directly that kid yeah that's where i go
like i go like that's like toxic level fans yeah and you just need to get slapped in the head
it's true we should i wish you could like punch people in the face for bad tweets
that'd be incredible i would i mean i'd be knocked out a few times for sure but 100
still but then i'd like then i'd think about it every time I hit send, you know?
True.
I did see Jalen Duran.
Jalen Duran.
Assume Duran.
Duran.
Duran.
Duran.
D-U-R-A-N.
D-U-R-A-N, right?
D-U-R-E-N. Oh? D-U-R-E-N.
Oh, Durant.
Why were you saying Durant?
Kevin Durant.
Oh, Jesus, guys.
John Morant.
He was supposed to announce his top five schools at 6 p.m.,
but it's 6.17 right now.
6 p.m. Pacific time's 6.17 right now. 6 p.m. Pacific time?
No, it says Eastern.
Joe Tipton, Tipton Edits out there.
Oh, shit.
The GOAT is late.
He's, you know.
Probably means he's coming to Michigan.
That's what I'd assume.
Yeah.
How about, wait, actually, this is one big last thing we'll leave on
because we're talking about basketball. Kofi Cockburn, Illinois Center. Yeah. How about, wait, actually, this is one big last thing we'll leave on because we're talking about basketball.
Kofi Cockburn, Illinois center.
Yeah.
In the transfer portal.
What?
Did that just happen?
He still has his name in the NBA draft,
so he has to, like, withdraw that in the next week.
But he, like, just today, one week before the uh withdrawal deadline put his name in the transfer
portal too interesting wait it really just happened i haven't seen anything it happened
to earlier like probably uh like four o'clock holy fuck dude that's huge illinois Just a poverty program. Not the Big Ten champions, that's for sure.
Falling apart.
Doesn't it just have to suck to be any fan except for a Michigan basketball fan?
I'm glad you clarified the basketball.
Yeah, definitely.
Ohio State losing Dwayne Washington.
That's huge, too.
We'll see. Ohio State losing Dwayne Washington. That brought a smile to my face. That's huge, too. That actually is huge, too.
Yeah, we'll see.
All right.
I'll end it on this.
We worked on our merch a little bit today.
Holy smokes.
We're just going to keep plugging it and get you guys fired up because it's coming out soon.
I'd say in the next few weeks, maybe.
Maybe we'll drop something. I like that. Drop one at a time. I like say in the next few weeks, maybe. Maybe we'll drop something.
I like that. Drop one at a time.
I like that.
We'll see.
I especially love the one that you did today.
You know what?
We'll wait.
We'll wait.
We'll wait until we can show everybody.
I won't tease you too much.
Good tease.
Good tease.
Good tease.
Give him a little hint.
Give him a hint.
Which one?
The lyrics really get me going.
Oh, I like that one.
I like that.
All right.
Maybe like a Michigan National Anthem, some may say.
So I was going to say a little bit Taylor Swift, but, you know, either or.
They both work.
Wait, what?
Yeah, I'm so confused. I don't know, know dude i'm on a whole other planet right now
i have no idea what's going on i thought we were going on a joke here and i'm and i i didn't i
didn't it didn't work i was with you on the joke until t swift came in so i'm not gonna tell him
i'm not gonna tell that if i say the artist it'll give it away all right yeah i think they're only
hit all right that i'm aware It's like their only hit.
All right.
That I'm aware of. Not their only hit.
Holy shit.
That I'm aware of.
I got to listen to more of it.
That was, I mean, oh my God.
That was, I, you'll never be forgiven.
That was a stupid take.
Yeah.
That's okay.
All right.
Well, we'll end it on that, but we're excited for it.
The next couple of weeks we'll have merch.
We'll probably do another pod this weekend or next week uh happy july 4th weekend boys uh enjoy yeah happy fourth
to everyone on the beach out there if you're on a lake if you're on the boat if you're chilling at
home if you're doing whatever going to the bar who knows enjoy some uh some beverages if you if
you feel like it.
It's supposed to be – I think it's supposed to get like to 90 on Sunday.
So, thankfully – hopefully this rain is gone.
My God, it's been a nightmare.
Dude, it's supposed to be nice.
Yeah, I think it will be nice here in Michigan.
So, wherever you're listening from, though, hopefully it's nice
and hopefully you guys get to enjoy some family and friends.
And we will see you all next week.
Go Blue. Go week. Go blue.
Go blue.
Go blue.
Yeah.
I had no idea that the killers had like so many other fucking sweet songs.