Blue By Ninety - E84: @redcupcfb

Episode Date: September 16, 2021

The boys welcome on Alex from @recbupcfb to cover a busy week in college football. James Franklin to USC? Is Iowa for real? Michigan a contender for the B1G title? 12 team playoff? We answer all those questions and more. Crack a cold one and enjoy the show.

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Touchdown, Wolverines! All right, welcome back to Blue by 90, presented by Truly. We are back this week. It is week two of college football, September 15th. I am Justin, joined by Jack and Kaitlin, as always. And And this week we have red cup college football joining us. Go follow his page, red cup CFB on Instagram. Check it out. I read the bio. It's the, what was it? The hottest. What was it? I just read it.

Hottest news on Instagram or something like that. I think I put like most entertaining most entertaining content so that's what we're riding with a little bit right now all right i like it i like it um yeah he's got you know everything out there from all over the country uh you know every team every every conference all that stuff. So they go follow him. That's red cup CFB on Instagram. So red cup, how you doing, man? I'm doing pretty well. I appreciate you guys having me on. Cool. Yeah. Thanks for coming. Glad you could come on and you're,

and you're thinking about starting a little podcast yourself, right? You're already kind of getting it going. Yeah. I'm trying to try to find my first guess right now I'm looking at a couple players so I'm trying to like have them go through the life of a d1 athlete type deal to start it off so we see what happens nice cool cool yeah um I mean let's start there I guess with your page when did you start your page actually uh i think it's like around september 20th ish like 2000 so three years from now so that'd be 2018 okay so we're coming up the on the anniversary then are we celebrating or what here uh i don't know we we just we just kind of have that date

we don't really take it too seriously gotcha um all right so three years i mean three years to get to 54,000 followers is pretty cool though so um congrats on that but um yeah i mean i'm i'm assuming because you're you know covering the entire country you've come across some some cool people players you know team accounts uh analysts things like that uh is there is there one that sticks out in your head that's like the coolest thing you've come across or interaction you've had uh i would say some of the bigger name guys i've talked to are sean oakman from baylor the really big dude uh dear that's like the meme of the century right john oakman on the uh on baylor and then dear king um i've talked to a few michigan guys aiden hutchinson

uh dax hill a little bit no i think who else jayden daniels from arizona state so there's been some there's been some pretty big ones but you know some of them don't even like check dm so yeah we we've noticed that as well there are some guys actually that are like you know text back dm back right away and they're like super cool and then there are other guys that they'll just never respond so um it's kind of hit or miss but um still it's fun to be kind of somewhat behind the scenes on all that i'm sure for you um so i mean we're in week two what are three week two week three week three week two shoot oh my god all right week three sorry it's going by so fast already shit um and that's

including a week zero as well so uh that's what fucks you up i know i know i think it's just because our brains aren't functioning for week two yeah right exactly i miss an entire day on saturdays because i have 17 coolies and then you know that takes out a couple of days. I'm technically at week one and a half, you know, so do the math there. But, you know, after after two weeks of college football, you know, what are your what are your biggest highlights that you've seen? Biggest surprises that have come out of these first first couple of weeks? Yeah, so I think I'll I'd probably start with the game I went to first week one, Georgia Clemson. I was kind of shocked.

That's a good one. I thought DJ was going to come in and do his thing like Trevor did, but I think we took him for granted. I think we took Justin Fields for granted. Not you guys, but, you know, like there's a significant step down from these guys. So that one was big with Georgia's defense. And I really like what UCLA is doing.

I'm not sure if LSU is any good, though. So that's another thing. And I have to say, Oregon, that's another one that's crazy. Florida State, that's not very shocking to me. Jesus, fuck Florida State, man. I never get used to those with them because my roommate was a florida state big florida state guy and oh i just have to do them crap when it's like year after year and same old i i think that i mean us as michigan fans i like to feel sorry

for us a lot of the time right because we are we you know haven't been at the top, but I still think we should be thankful for where we're at because there are a lot of programs, Florida State, Nebraska, you could go on down the list that we're once at that top. I mean, people forget Florida State, it was not that long ago that they were in the national title. Like, Jameis Winston was not that long ago. And so for them to be losing to Jacksonville state now is kind of crazy. So as bad as things may have seen may seem still in Ann Arbor, you know,

I feel like there are some programs that are, that are still going, going worse and worse. Yeah. I mean, let's talk to big 10 too. So, you know, Ohio state loses to to oregon uh last week i what was your prediction on that game beforehand and then what did you think about that game after you watched it so my prediction was was not great for this one i was just assuming ohio state was going to go in there and do their thing because thibodeau wasn't playing and however however you say flower flow flow yeah wasn't playing and however you say it, Flow or Flow. Flow, yeah, yeah.

Wasn't playing. Apparently they had five starters out on defense. So, yeah, I thought they were going to come in and win by like 17, I think I predicted. And then they came in and it was halftime and I was like, Ohio State, they do this. You know what they do. They'll mess around with you a little bit and then they'll take over like

they did against Minnesota. But, no, I think they really have problems on defense and they don't make changes that they're in trouble I'm not sure if Oregon's legit or if Ohio State just took that big of a jump down so I mean either way as a Michigan fan they lost and if Ohio State took that big of a jump down I'm fucking pumped man to give Michigan a chance this year. Yeah, I mean, the whole thing with Kerry Coombs as well, Ryan Day comes out and is like – basically like I don't know if Kerry Coombs is going to call the shots on defense going forward. So, for them in – you know, after just two weeks of football

to maybe make some changes on the defensive side of the ball is kind of crazy to me. You know, of course, with all this being said and all of us hurt hearing in all this that we're hearing as a Michigan fan, I'm 100% expecting them to turn it around by November 27th. I'm expecting them to get it together and, and all that. But as it stands right now they have gave have given up an incredible amount of yardage on on the run Michigan has ran the

shit out of the ball so I I want to play them next week I'd be great oh my god yeah I feel like that's how it goes a lot with with Ohio State they start out even when they're really good they start out a little rocky and then by the time they beat Michigan they're they're at their prime like there was one year I think Michigan came in favored in like 2018 yeah and they just went crossing route after crossing route and it's just like they're more prepared for that game I guess it was an Urban Meyer thing. But it's like they put everything into that one game. Like, they hold all their tricks in for one game, even at Michigan's 0-11 going in.

It's crazy. Are you buying the hype with all the kind of, like, Harbaugh-Michigan focus on Ohio State this year? Or are you just like, ah, it's just Michigan fucking talking? I mean, we need an outsider's perspective here. I'm definitely one of those people that needs to like see it happen. I'm sure you guys are too, before you get your hopes back up. But I think it's definitely easy to jump back on the Harbaugh train after he

has all these new assistants that are all energetic and the crowds all into it again. It seems like there's a new energy and then Ohio state losing all of a sudden, everyone's like, I think I ran a poll and it was like 60 40 ohio state instead of 100 zero and i was like wow that's huge man that is huge people are buying back into michigan a little bit or they're just falling off with ohio state i don't know well dude the michigan crowd's getting some love recently i mean all over social media i mean we haven't seen that in a long time oh yeah with

mr brightside it's fucking incredible it's cool to see all those videos out there sports center i I mean, all over social media. I mean, we haven't seen that in a long time. Oh, yeah, with Mr. Brightside. It's fucking incredible. It's cool to see all those videos out there, SportsCenter. I mean, everybody's putting it up. Just giving love to the Michigan fans. So it's well-deserved this year. I mean, people are showing up and doing their thing. Well, the unfortunate part about being a Michigan fan is that we've just had our hearts broken so many times that any like shred of like

oh they might do something we just like latch on to it and we instantly get our hopes up so I think you know for us you know myself Jack and Justin we've seen a little shred of like oh they're doing something right and we've grasped onto that we're like oh and Ohio State lost so now we have our hopes this is our year yeah this is how it goes though every single time right it's a couple things happen everyone overreacts and then what's gonna happen is over the next six seven weeks people you know it'll all even out. Michigan will probably lose a couple on the road. Ohio State will dominate for the next seven weeks in a row. And then, you know, then we're in November and it all happens again. I can't get myself up for that.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, I mean, I can see why. Yeah. All right. So, I mean, going more, you know, around the Big Ten, James Franklin, Penn State. So, they've got a big one this weekend, obviously, against Auburn. Whiteout, you know, they're going to – it's kind of fun to see Mays out for Michigan

getting a bunch of notoriety. The Penn State Whiteout this week is going to get a bunch of notoriety, which is really cool. But the big question mark there is, is James Franklin with Penn State, or does he have a foot out the door thinking about heading to Southern Cal? So what are your thoughts on the whole Clay Helton being fired, USC trying to possibly poach James Franklin and how that may affect them into probably, you know,

maybe their biggest week of the entire season here. Yeah, so with USC, I think everyone thinks that was a long time coming, and he was on a hotter seat than Harbaugh has been for years now. Him, Tom Herman, we were just kind of waiting for that to happen and then Herman happened and then you got Helton but yeah with that loss to Stanford that's tough that's tough for them I don't really I'm not sure I really feel

for them because they'll they get all that money they're fine but uh yeah I don't I've never even I haven't even heard the Franklin hype to USC. I've heard a couple of names. I've heard Urban Meyer. Pickle. I've heard Pickle a lot. Pickle, yeah. And people have said – talked against it. But when the money's thrown in your face, I don't know. And with Franklin, I'm not sure – I'm not sure how big of a pay increase

that would be. I'm sure it would be some. But with what he has going on, I don't know if he'd want to step into that, honestly. I like his culture going on at Penn State. They started 0-5 last year, and I think it's the same thing with Michigan. COVID year, opt-outs, no crowds, hurts teams with big stadiums a lot. I don't think they should overreact to him maybe even putting his foot in that door a little bit to USC,

testing the waters. I don't think he's going to go. So I think they'll be fine. I kind of liked what you said there too. I mean, with Franklin, do you want to step into a shit show at USC or kind of keep the solid thing you got going at Penn State where there's, you know, people aren't trying to rip your head off? I mean, that'd be a selling point to me, man. I mean,

you can see what's going on in Texas and kind of what was going on before Harbaugh at Michigan and a little bit last year with Harbaugh at Michigan. I mean, if I like what you said there, I think Franklin, why would you leave Penn state for USC, especially if it's not going to be that big of a pay bomb? Yeah. And he's like their savior right now too, because they're coming off all those allegations they love him oh yeah i mean he doesn't even have the hardball or like the pressure hardball has he

can just go in and go for and they're like whatever we'll hype him up next year and they had saquon barkley yeah exactly on barkley they they blocked the kick they won the big 10 they beat ohio state nobody realizes that that's what five years ago now but um but still I mean that I I agree I think that he he's got a really good gig that it seems like he can't get fired from right now you know as long as like you said he goes nine and four you know and and then wins a couple bowl games um even go you know if you have a 10 and three year every once every three four years then you're good and if you can compete with Ohio State you know it's almost like he's able to have the the Midwest and the Big Ten

rip on Harbaugh so much they forget about James Franklin, right? So it's like he almost goes under the radar a lot. Honestly, if I was James Franklin, I'd want Harbaugh to stay at Michigan forever and ever, right? Yeah, I agree with that. And I think it's crazy how Harbaugh gets all the crap. And you know how it is. We went to three straight NFC championships.

He turned Stanford around. People don't realize how bad they were. And if you look at him and Franklin's careers, they're night and day. I mean, one Big Ten championship, but I think I remember that year. Was that the year Michigan beat Penn State by like 40? And they just happened to lose on the JT spot? Yep. So it's like that's what you're bragging about, a block kick.

And like you said, it's like that's your best year. Michigan was better than you that year. I don't know. And you still have Harbaugh getting all the hate, like you said. I mean, he has a pretty good gig then. Can't do any wrong. Yep. Agreed.

Agreed. So, I mean, going, continuing around the Big Ten, then I think from an in-state perspective, but just I think from a country perspective be on, you know, national, you know, landscape quite yet. But they head down to Miami, who is still ranked somehow, even though they got trounced by Bama, which I don't blame any anybody for getting trounced by Bama. Let's get that straight. But then in the next game, you only beat App State by two. Twenty five. Twenty three. I think the Spartans have a decent chance to win that game even though they're not even favored what do you think about Mel Tucker and the Spartans in year two here and this week is this I mean this could be a pretty big statement game for them winning down in Miami yeah like you said they're definitely not back on like

to where they were at 11-1 a couple years ago. But I'm not so sure that's even their standard anyways. I think that was just an anomaly. So I would say they're on track right now for him. I think he's on track to be around for a while if he can go in and win that one, which I think I might predict them to win that game just because I like what they're doing and I don't like Miami when De'Ara King's not super healthy because it takes away his legs and he's like 5'10".

So it's just tough when he's inside the pocket. But, yeah, I think, like you said, they're going to – they have a little bit of a new energy and they should be fine. I don't see them going in and winning a bunch of games, but I think they could make a bowl game. All they want to do is beat Michigan anyways, so that's pretty much their Super Bowl. We'll see when that time comes. I think that could be a close game in East Lansing. I think I'm with you, though, for this weekend. I like Sparty over Miami. I don't trust any team that wears Adidas

football uniforms, so I will gladly pick against Miami this weekend. So I don't know. I might – I don't know if I'll take them to win straight up, but I might take that plus eight. I kind of like that for Sparty's momentum. I mean, if they can ride that wave and go down to Miami and win. I'd love to see undefeated Michigan go against undefeated Michigan State at the end of October.

I mean, it's always a possibility. Some good things are going to have to go the right way, but that just makes that game even more exciting. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, I think that it'll be interesting. I think that it'll – they'll be all of a sudden pretty legit, you know, for to not, like you said, I think to, to make a bowl game, they're not going to be contenders in the big 10 East. But I know that there are going to be a lot of Michigan fans. If they go out and beat Miami

and they're three and Oh, Michigan fans, myself included are going to be like, shit, here we go again. You know, that game that we all thought, okay, there's, you know, we're going to go into Sparty and be able to dominate that game. All of a sudden, that is going to be a packed house in October, you know, Halloween weekend, and I think a lot of people are going to be shaken. So we'll see how that goes. On the west side of the division, though, in the Big in the big 10 you know Wisconsin who we all thought

would be super dominant I I mean I I did that's what I thought at least with Graham Mertz coming back I thought we all knew that defense was going to be legit and they seemed to be very very legit but I thought that offense was going to be very good too Graham Mertz you know in the first games before they had COVID last year, looked so good. And now that some of those picks that he has thrown were just horrible. So I don't know what to think about Wisconsin going in because I thought, okay, they've got now finally got a quarterback that is not, you know, Chad Henney or John Navar mobile. Like, you know, that's what they've had in the past. It's been a guy who can't run at all.

Graham Mertz comes in, he can move, he can sling it. I thought that offense would take a step forward, but they seem to be taking a step back. What are your thoughts on Wisconsin? Yeah, I agree with what you're saying there. I think I had them winning the West pretty handily. I mean, I knew Iowa would be pretty good but I didn't I didn't see this coming at all with them but um yeah I'm not sure but I bought

into the Graham Mertz hype just like you did he's a five-star going to Wisconsin at quarterback so it's like the best thing that's happened since one year of Russell Wilson and yeah Mertz can move and he just hasn't really got found it yet. I mean, he's still young. Who knows? Maybe he'll have a career like Spencer Rattler where it takes him a little bit, but I don't know. As of right now, I don't see it. I could see them losing three games for sure. And you mentioned Iowa as well. Is Iowa really the fifth best team in the nation? I know going into Ames and winning is a big deal, for sure. And still, by the way, we have a lot of fans here at Michigan that want Matt Campbell to come to Ann Arbor, right? He has yet to beat Iowa State. So the whole, you know, I just, whether he's a great coach or not, that narrative, if Matt Campbell does end up coming to Ann Arbor, the narrative of can't beat your rivals is still there, you know?

And so that is a whole different conversation. But Iowa going into Ames and beating Iowa State, that Iowa State team is, you know, super old. They're veterans. You know, they have a ton of guys back, including the QB. But is Iowa legitimately a top-five team, or is that just kind of where they're at right now because it's week three? I mean, I guess it could change any week.

But as of now, I'd say they deserve it. Do I think talent wise they're there no probably not close but their defense is legit I think they lead the country in like active streaks score giving up less than 24 points or something like that some crazy stat like a long time coming but yeah I still think Ohio State's got to be the team to beat in the Big Ten. So if that answers your question, I think Iowa just – I don't see it with the skill positions. I like them in the trenches. I'm not sure if their quarterback's good enough.

I'm not really sure about their receivers. They're good at running back. They're good in the trenches. They're going to hold teams down. But it's like if they're playing in Alabama, are they're going to hold teams down, but it's like when the, if they're playing in Alabama, are they really going to, are they going to score at all with their offense? They're still a pro style offense. They haven't adapted just like Wisconsin.

So a lot of those big 10 West teams are the same to me because they just haven't, they're not very modernized. Even Michigan you've seen with bringing in Gattis, they've kind of modernized their offense a little bit till last week, but it's, it's just crazy to me how their top five, they're always this eight and four team. Yeah. I just, I can't buy into the top five hype yet. I think they're definitely a top 10 team right now with their defense though.

That's crazy. I'm looking at their schedule. They might win out. They got Kent state next weekend, Colorado State following that, at Maryland, Penn State at home. We'll see how Penn State looks at that time. Against Purdue at home, at Wisconsin, at Northwestern, Minnesota at home, Illinois at home, at Nebraska. They might have the easiest Big Ten schedule of all time. Oh, my gosh.

The thing with them is they still got to go. They're not a team that can get into the playoffs with a loss. I think the teams on the east side have a better shot to do that. They're not winning a Big Ten title. I still think they got to get to 13-0 to make the playoffs. They have a long road ahead still. Those west teams seem to slip up a lot with each other they just beat up on each other that's why it's hard for me to trust the team like iowa that's a wild stat though that you shared about them like having the longest streak

uh keeping teams under 24 points because i do not think of iowa as like a massive defensive school i think of them as tight end you right right? Like nobody is like, oh, Iowa, amazing defense, right? Fucking hate Iowa. I don't know what it is. I just don't like Iowa. That's how I feel. Well, there were people that came out and were like, is Iowa now the team to beat in the Big Ten?

You know, Ohio State takes the loss, obviously. I still think at the end of the year it's going to be like, okay, let's say Ohio State wins out in the Big Ten and Iowa wins out and they're the contender in the West. So those teams meet up in the Big Ten championship. My bet is Ohio State minus like 10 still, nine and a half maybe, right? So I still think Ohio State's going to be the team to beat for sure. Yeah, I agree with that.

I definitely still have them. If they lose another one, though, I would definitely change my thoughts a little bit. I just – I don't see it happening. When's the last time they went 10-2 in a regular season? Sad. Don't even – I don't want to think about it. Ricky Stanziera?

Yeah, shit. Oh, maybe luke fickles here luke fickles here they went like six and six right and that was the only time ohio state yeah they still put up a good fight against michigan that year didn't they too close for comfort i was like i'm like when is michigan gonna blow them out i don't know i don't know uh it'll be a great day when it happens yeah this is the year this year I believe all right so I mean the the only team in the big 10 we really haven't talked about yet is Michigan and so um your thoughts on on the Wolverines I mean we we talked about Harbaugh a little bit we talked about the energy um but this team running for 300 plus yards passing for 50

first of all have you ever seen a stat like that have you ever seen a box score like that oh i mean only in the military schools oh my god that was that was crazy but um do you think this team is – are they a contender at all in the Big Ten yet? Or do they need to win a few more games? I mean, maybe even like going on the road to Wisconsin in order to solidify that they could be legit. I think it's a little early to tell just because we don't know if Washington's going to go 2-10 or if they're going to bounce back and go nine and

three, because I could see it either way. But as you said, the thing that scares me a little bit, which I don't know if I should be scared for you is the passing game, but I think it's just Harbaugh's went away from it. Cause why, why pass it when you don't have to, when you just run it down their throat run after run. But I think they have the best running back core in the big 10. why pass it when you don't have to when you just run it down their throat run after run but um I think they have the best running back core in the big 10 so that helps and it seems like the

o-line's still good after losing some guys I really like the defense honestly with the new coordinators I think they always had the talent it's just Don Brown just you know he is he doesn't adapt he's he's good man to man on a team with lesser talent and then plays in Ohio State or Penn State with weapons and it's good luck but uh yeah I think they're still they're looking at right now I think they're looking at at least like a one of those nine and three teams like they've been but if they can have the quarterback play step up to that next level which you guys have been waiting for for what how long uh too long that's when we start talking like maybe they'll win the big 10 so I think I need to see that out of

McNamara or whether it's going to be McCarthy filling in I really doubt that this year but I'm just not so sure with McNamara if it's without Ronnie Bell it's going to be tough or if it's he doesn't want to take any chances or if he's just like another Ian Book, which that could be good enough. But there's a lot of question marks for me. I'm not sold on the contender yet, but I think they're definitely in that narrative now.

Like they're in that group with Iowa, Penn State, Ohio State, maybe even Michigan State, Wisconsin. Which you, it's funny because you named a bunch of schools right there right and so that was uh looking at your Instagram page after week two that was one of your big takeaways was that the Big Ten has parody um for the first time in what seems like a long time now it's it's still week three there may be no parody at all come week 12, but that part is kind of interesting right now

where it does seem like there is no jump-ahead team that you're like, they're 100% going to win the Big Ten this year. Yeah, I agree with that, and I think that's what we all want. That's why a lot of us want expansion and we want, you know, the Alabamas, the Clemsons, the Ohio States to, to lose every once in a while. And it was nice to see Clemson go down, even though it was Georgia, but, you know, you have this same teams over and over.

And I think people just probably, they just get sick of it and it doesn't help the sport if anything, but yeah, I think the parody, like you said, could be really cool to watch. I think we could see a very different Ohio State team, especially because I don't know if you look at their schedule, the next few weeks are like borderline division three opponents like for them. But I think they're going to take it out on a lot of those teams for sure. But I mean, there's parity for sure yeah and um I mean the the thing is what's gonna annoy me and a lot of fans I assume is us

talking about parity in the big 10 here in week three and then if if, you know, if, or just parodying college football, if Ohio state does win out, then there's, you know, we're still back to whatever. And then if Clemson wins out in the ACC, it's like, all right, these non-conference games still don't mean anything. Right. You know, which I think is the, that's what sucks about like the playoff, I guess, is that, you know, normally that game would be it, right? You'd be out of the out of the title contention. But now you can get back into it. So that kind of stinks where it's like, all right, in my head, I'm pretty sure Clemson still going to run the ACC. In my head, Ohio State, I'm pretty sure could still run the Big Ten so what

does that parody really mean if if in the end we're still to where we were you know yeah I think I agree with that and I think a lot of it might all of a sudden go to on the Pac-12 like they always beat up on each other they're never in the playoffs but if Oregon can stick it out maybe that helps the parody a little bit at stick it out maybe that helps the parody a little bit at least it's a new team it takes a spot away from a one loss Ohio State or one loss Clemson maybe when they already beat Ohio State head-to-heads you can't they don't lose their end right but yeah I think it it's weird because it always depends on all these different teams you have like Cincinnati then you have your Oregon then you have now you have Iowa and then

Iowa State's lost and but what if they you have Iowa and then Iowa state's lost. And, but what if they go beat Oklahoma and then they split with Oklahoma. So it just, it's all these different variables. And then at the end of the day, we always see Alabama, Clemson, Ohio state, and then either Oklahoma or Notre Dame and which Notre Dame, that's a different discussion. They're not a playoff team right now, but yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. We, I mean, let's talk about Notre Dame. So they, I,

I didn't see the game. I saw the score. I saw some highlights against Toledo, but Toledo is not a good football program right now either. That's the thing is like they were under, I believe it was, well, they had Matt Campbell, right. When they were, you know, really good at Toledo, they have Jason candle, I believe now as their head coach. But that's not like a top of the Mac program. That's, you know, that's fighting with Notre Dame. And so Notre Dame, I mean,

what are your thoughts on what Notre Dame should do right now in this college football expansion, the realignments in the in the, you know, conferences and all that stuff? So let alone what Notre Dame is doing right now. Where do you see Notre Dame ending up in the next five or so years in all college football? I mean, I think with all this craziness in the SEC, then I think that is going to trigger, that's going to pull the trigger on the ACC for them, even though they get a little bit more money from the NBC deal.

Eventually you've got to pick and choose, do I want to have a better shot at the playoff if it expands, or do I want to have that little extra couple million dollars each year for NBC and listen to Drew Brees talk a little bit but uh I don't know I think they're going to end up in the ACC eventually and they don't want to admit it and they're not going to admit it until it really happens and yeah like you said right now they're they're 2-0 but there's people who want them out of the top 25 like it's been rough because Florida State's very not good.

And like you said, Toledo's not a top-max school either. I think, if anything, that Western Michigan win isn't bad either. I think they go and play someone this week. I think it's Pitt. So that'll tell a lot. Who did Pitt just play? They beat Tennessee. Okay, yeah. Yeah, Milton Milton got pulled I think I heard

on that one that tells you a little bit more about Michigan too even though it's Pitt's not amazing they're still a solid eight and four ACC team for sure for sure and so with the layout of college football you know there's always a lot of talk of expand the playoff um go back some people are go back to the bcs i don't think they're more more people are on expand the playoff yeah there's a couple maybe the old heads gives us the rightful champion, but it makes it entertaining and involves, you know, enough teams there? So originally I said eight was the good number. And then they threw out 12. And I was like, this is stupid.

And I looked a little bit and I was like, so if it if it's eight we're taking away a lot of the bowl games anyways right so why don't we just make it 12 and just make bowl games a little bit less meaningful at this point make those games even more meaningful but no matter what they do there's going to be people complaining and it's just nobody's ever satisfied it's just like with the president of the united states like they're never going to be satisfied no matter who it is you know so you always have your split sides but i think more people are in favor of an expansion and i like expansion i'm not going to complain with anywhere from six to twelve teams i think when you get 16, 32, it becomes a little different, which some people like that too, because every other D1 sport is like that. But I like eight to 12. I'm kind of

back and forth on it. So I like 12. And here's why. Because let's say you give the top four teams a bye. So they already get into the second round, let the bottom eight play it out through that first round. And the top four spots still mean something, mean something at that point. And you've got guys that still want to teams that still want to be undefeated and all that good stuff. Um, and, and there's still upsets. I mean, I get, it's not like college basketball, right. Where, you know, uh, a 12 is beating a five seed, but, you know, maybe if you give it

that opportunity and, you know, there's some teams that are always borderline that you think, you know, should be in the playoff that could compete, but they never make it in. So I think the more the merrier, I think 12 is kind of that sweet spot. So then it's not drug out too long. It would be what a three week period, maybe longer if you gave extra weight for the championship game or however they would want to do it. But I would love to see more teams in there. Selfishly because Michigan's been out of it forever because Ohio State fucking beats us and we lose our spot.

But I like the more the merrier, man. I would love to see 12. I think if they're going to go, they'll make a bigger jump than eight, and I think they would go to that 12th format, or at least I hope so. Yeah, I think the the argument is good too because like for more teams oh i'm sorry no you can go ahead the i was gonna say the argument for more teams is just that it gives you the opportunity to see uh see more matchups that you would never see otherwise right uh you might get to see um i don't know some sec team play some pack 12 team

you might see some group of five team upset a really good sec team so i think that's the argument for more teams you know 16 32 but i i know i know what you guys mean you know it takes away from the importance so i like that no it doesn't it doesn't takes away from the importance. I like that. No, it doesn't. It doesn't take away from the importance. It makes it more exciting. You get what? December madness now.

Yeah, you have to find the happy medium between the importance of the tradition of the regular season games and rivalries, because that's why we watch college football, in my opinion, because the regular season is so great, and then's why we watch college football in my opinion it's the regular season so great and then balance that with like a great playoff too where it's important and it's all leading up to it like the NFL like it leads up to it everything matters but you lose one week it's not do or die you lose a couple in college football obviously you're done but oh yeah at this point maybe if it's 12 teams maybe you have a two or three lost sec team that makes it in who knows yeah it'll it'll be interesting i i think you know although i i want games early in the season and throughout the

season to be important i i do think it is a little bit more fair to a group of 18 to 22 year old kids that you don't have to perform you know maybe this is me being soft but if you have an off day your whole season isn't over with you know that's where like let's's imagine that Notre Dame loses to app or to, um, who did they just play Toledo? If they just, if they lose to Toledo, their season's done. Right. And so then it's like, to me, all right, I'm not paying attention to Notre Dame for the rest of the year.

Notre Dame fans are out on the rest of the year, you know? So that just all kind of stinks I think for for college for the fandom of college football I would rather especially because I enjoy right now there is no other than money for these universities if you're a fan you should probably want to play four cupcakes at the beginning of the year and get into your conference there's no you know there's no positive coming out of playing a great uh other than the atmosphere or something like that but if you lose a great to a great team even if it's a top 10 team like Georgia Clemson you know you then have to win out in order to go in, in order to get into the college football playoff.

I'd rather it be okay to trip up and that would, and that would encourage people. Okay. I'm okay with playing a higher, higher tier opponent in the early season, because I know I can still make it into the college football later college football playoff later on. So we'll see how it all pans out, but I, I, I think it's gotta happen here. I think the contracts through 2023. So I think we would be looking at 2024, I believe. And which is still three

years out, but we'll see. All right. So back into it here. Predictions for Saturday. You put out predictions like on your page, right? Mm-hmm. Cool. What days for people that are checking it out? So Red Cup CFB on Instagram. What days do you put out your predictions?

What days do you have your recaps? What's going on for all that? so we usually do Fridays is the predictions so it's not like Saturday morning right before but um so we do Friday predictions and then usually we'll post all day Saturday for games and then Sunday we'll do like some awards I usually put out, like best team, best atmosphere, best jerseys, best coaching, offense, defense, that kind of thing. And then I'll do takeaways. They're either Sunday or Monday. I usually go into depth.

Not too much, but, like, you saw the Big Ten parody post. Yeah. And then throughout the week, I think we have it coming up today, is the training up, trending down type of thing. So we do that and then that's pretty much it for takeaways. And then I'll usually go on Instagram live on game day morning, like 30 minutes before, right before they make the picks on game day is usually when I'll talk about things a little bit with some fans. Nice. Cool. Okay, cool. All right. So, um, let's get a little sneak break into a sneak break, sneak, sneak break. I'm not even drinking right now. I don't even know what's going on with me.

Um, your body doesn't ought to function sober. Exactly. I need it. I need it truly in me. Um, so, uh, can you give us a little sneak peek into, into what sneak peek into what your picks are going to be this week? Yeah, we actually haven't even formed them yet, but I can go ahead and go through and probably tell you what I'll pick. Go for it. I'd say go through the Big Ten and then go through, like, any other – if there are big games that are on the country this week as well.

So Big Ten, like, any other – if there are big games around the country this week as well. So, Big Ten, Maryland-Illinois. I'm not sure we'll even post this one because it's not too big. Big game. Big game. Illinois is at home. I could see them winning it, but I think I would pick them to cover at Illinois' plus seven and a half. I think they might cover, but they'll lose to maryland i

kind of like what to his brother does however you say his name uh northern illinois michigan i have michigan by a lot nebraska oklahoma that's a cool one old rivalry but yeah nebraska stinks um honestly oklahoma by probably by 30 oh my god God. That's going to be, yeah. The line is only 22 on that. I think I'm going to be at a hammer Oklahoma on that one. I would too. Yeah. Cincinnati, Indiana.

That's a, that's a good one. It's not as cool now that Indiana lost to Iowa, but Indiana's at home. They're going to, they're going to be into that for sure. That's a tough one. I would go Cincinnati, though. Miami, Michigan State. Probably go Michigan State. Probably an unpopular opinion to most.

That line is going down a little bit, too. It was at eight. It looks like it's at six. Looking at it now for Miami. Miami minus six. I think people think Miami is sus. They're always fucking sus, man. They had one good year.

I can't remember who the quarterback. I think it was fucking – I can't remember his fucking name. They had one good year like three or four years ago. I know. Fucking shit. All right. Sorry. Keep going. No, you're good. Minnesota Fucking shit. All right, sorry. Keep going.

No, you're good. Minnesota, Colorado. That one's interesting. Both teams are solid. You saw what Colorado did a little bit last week against Texas A&M. They have a decent defense. Minnesota lost Mo. Is that Colorado?

I guess I'll just go Colorado most likely in that one, just because Ibrahim's out. Purdue, Notre Dame, that's a tough one too. It's in South Bend though, so I'm going to give Notre Dame. They're going to get down and they're going to win late by a couple points. David Bell's going to go for like 300 yards. That line is – yeah, probably. That line is intriguing to me, though.

I don't know. I – Notre Dame usually does well at home. Obviously, they didn't the other day. Not the other day, yeah. I don't – I just – I mean, I haven't watched Purdue play, but I don't think Purdue is any good. So, I don't know I just – I mean, I haven't watched Purdue play, but I don't think Purdue's any good. So, I don't know. I mean, I see three pretty big games on Saturday, right?

You got Alabama-Florida, the top 11 matchup, and it's in Gainesville. Yeah. Alabama minus 14.5. You taking those points for Florida to cover? That's tough because I can see them pulling out the best game of their life and only losing by 14. Right? You know, I'll take it.

But I can also see Alabama going in and, you know, Bryce Young doesn't play in the second half. So, like, they just look that good at times. But I don't know. Who knows? Miami could be really bad and we just don't know it yet and that alabama win maybe wasn't as impressive as we thought but it's still alabama and bryce young he's already like a millionaire i mean dude's got it made for a first round pick already

oh yeah it just it is what it is at this point and i kind of think alabama's gonna cover that okay all right what do you got penn state auburn another top 25 matchup penn state's favored by and I kind of think Alabama's going to cover that. Okay. All right. What do you got? Penn State-Auburn, another top 25 matchup. Penn State's favored by five. That's another interesting one. But it's a wide out, so it's really hard for me to dig into some. I think Bo Nix will come out and do his normal thing,

throw a couple interceptions, and that'll be that. Low scoring, maybe. What was the other one Arizona State BYU another top 25 matchup in Utah I mean who's uh Herm Edwards that are fighting Herm Edwards are they for real JT or who's the who's that quarterback out there Daniels it's not JT Daniels Jaden Daniels I don't like the line there at minus four. I wouldn't spread either way. I don't – I like what BYU did last week, but did they put everything into their rival?

That's my question is, like, did they just beat Utah because I haven't beat them in ten years? It's kind of like the Michigan-Ohio State thing. It's everything to them. I don't know. I definitely would – I'd probably go Arizona State by a few points on the road. And then another interesting one is Tulane-Ole Miss.

I don't know if you paid attention to Tulane put up like 35 on Oklahoma. They both have some beautiful uniforms. I'll be watching that game just for that alone. It's a lot of baby blue. Tulane may be the best uniforms in all of college football. They both had some beautiful uniforms. I'll be watching that game just for that alone. That's true. It's a lot of baby blue. Tulane may be the best uniforms in all of college football.

Yeah, I love those, honestly. I think – who do you guys have on that one? I mean, I would assume Ole Miss wins, but I don't know if they cover at minus 14. I mean, I love Matt Corral, man, so I'm picking Ole Miss and the baby blue, fighting Lane Kiffin's. That's true. Yeah, I don't mind. I think you take the points there.

That's a lot of points no matter what there. I don't think anybody wins by two touchdowns in that game. Yeah, I agree with that. That's a lot. Yeah, 76, isn't it? I mean, I don't know, man. It's a lot. 76? I mean, I don't know, man. Makes me nervous.

I think Virginia could beat North Carolina, honestly. Dude, I was looking at that one, too. I know. That kind of, I mean, we don't know what's coming out of UNC this year. I don't know why they're ranked, to be honest. I think it's just that recency bias we always see. Sam Howell? howell yeah yeah but he just doesn't have any weapons anymore and he's i don't know he can't really move yeah

or just george is gonna pummel south carolina hey man cox by 90 i'm betting on the game cox let's go boys that's how we lose money he jeff literally told us that he loses money by betting on south carolina every week are they gonna cover you think 31 and a half it says that's a big ass line that's huge how how did i'm sorry how did south carolina i we've got a we've got a friend that's come on the pod. He's a big Gamecocks guy. But how did South Carolina go from – I mean, they were beating Michigan in the Outback Bowl a couple years ago. Now they're 31-and-a-half-point dogs and playing GAs at quarterback.

What is that? That's got to be the wildest story of all time. Yeah, I don't know what's going on with them honestly they just had a coaching change right i think they did yeah they fired their coach so they it's a first year coach but holy shit i mean even in a rebuild like that's pretty crazy yeah i mean do you think they're in in a better state than nebraska is right now oh that's a good question. Yeah. Well, they've got a chance to – I mean, they're only in year one. You know, Scott Frost is in year four and has 12 total wins.

So, yeah, I'd say they're still in better shape. To come back to this Virginia-UNC matchup. Dude, I kind of like Virginia. I was just looking at their quarterback. He's already thrown for over 700 yards. They've blown out both teams they've played. I mean, it was fucking William and Mary and then Illinois. But, man, I might take Virginia outright in that game. Yeah, I could see that too, honestly.

I kind of like it. don't like north carolina this year at all from what i what i saw against virginia tech yeah i don't even care how good yeah it's a mix of not liking fucking the tar heels and just what we've seen so far like you're telling me they're gonna lose by more by more than a touchdown. I think they'll cover maybe. It's not betting advice, by the way. Yeah, nothing you hear on here is solid betting advice. Well, it's advice.

It's just not good advice. Yeah, it's just not good. Speaking of betting, after that game, the Rams game last weekend, I bet on Rams Super Bowl champions and Matt Stafford MVP. The odds are probably pretty good. The odds are great. I bet a dollar on each. I'm like, whatever, I'll get 15 bucks out of it. It's hard for me to bet against Mahomes or Brady not to win this year.

Yeah. I know Brady. They are. Even Mahomes, it's just like they could be down by 30 with five minutes left. And I'm like, they got a shot. Somehow they just like that Mahomes magic. He chucks it 80 yards and they, you know, it's the fuck it Tyreek down there somewhere meme, right? Like, God dang, it's crazy.

How about the Lions and Packers being on monday night football that how after goth put up some points i know but they got the packers got stomped that's got to be like one of the it's going to be one of the least watched monday night football games all year i can i would love to see aaron rogers just get run out of the least watched Monday night football games all year. I would love to see Aaron Rodgers just get run out of the fucking stadium after sitting out for however long with the whole Packers deal. I'm all for it. I'll be fucking watching it. It might be just ugly enough that it's

entertaining. Does Aaron Rodgers even care is the real question? I don't know. No, there's no way there's no way um all right so that was a ton of predictions we went through we ended up going through every game i think and even went into the nfl um but uh but let's uh all right so do you have anything – so what's coming up for you? Is there anything you want to give a preview to?

Any content that's coming out that people should check out on your page? I think one that a lot of people like is the awards, which they've been getting a good amount of likes every week. People like just the category section. Like each week – I think I had Michigan this week for best atmosphere, which people actually argued they said Arkansas was. I was like, that's not what I watch. Woo pig suey.

Whatever. But, yeah, those are usually good. And then I would say tuning into Instagram Live every Saturday morning for game days. I'm always excited on game days. I'm always excited on game days. I'm always revved up. Always. But, yeah, I think I'm going to have to start a podcast here soon.

I'm trying to find some player guests that will come on. I know they're kind of busy right now. But just to – it'd be nice to hear, like, what they do on a day-to-day basis because I know it's a grind for them. And podcasts are kind of turning into a thing why not for sure i mean just beware you know we it's a grind you have to be a premier top athlete like we are to do this okay you can't not just anybody can sit here and drink four trulies and talk you, gibberish for an hour. Yeah. The real warning is, you know, watch out your bank account will just be huge.

Yeah. I got to get that truly sponsor. There you go. There you go. Yeah. I mean, we've now, we started this, you know, not too long ago. We're already all millionaires. So, you know, I mean, now we started this, you know, not too long ago. We're already all millionaires. So, you know, it's just been kind of crazy how famous we are. You got Denard Robinson coming on next week, right? Yeah, exactly, exactly.

You never know. There's a lot of guys like that that'll come on. I know Devin Gardner does a lot of that stuff. Yeah, Devin's big time in TV now, for sure. Denard's down with the Jags. He's a scout. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see.

My fiance's dad is actually going down to the Gators-Bama game. He's a Gator. He's originally from Florida. So, that'll be a good one. It'll be a fun – I mean, I feel like unfortunately for Michigan fans, this is kind of a hangover week, you know, huge atmosphere last week, night game maze out. And now you have a nooner against Northern Illinois.

So I'm hoping that doesn't translate into the, the players as well. But I think the whole Rocky lombardi uh playing for northern illinois thing helps with this defense wanting to rip his head off so hoping that that way yeah they're pretty solid so it's not like you know anything to snip at but you know sometimes just with an atmosphere you can if you're a player you can it's contagious both ways the maze out in that atmosphere was contagious uh a nooner after that can seem like a walk in the park kind of thing and you can you can you know uh kind of dive into that too or get get drug into that so we'll see how it goes but hey we appreciate you coming on. Red Cup CFB on Instagram. Go follow him.

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A lot of debates in the dms a lot of they would you would think they're hateful comments but you know i don't think people calling you this the stupidest man on earth or something like that oh yeah you have no idea like these people you would think they want to kill my family the way they talk to me it's just a game you're just covering it putting out a take it's uh it's not that deep it's not that deep so all right well be nice to him if you're gonna send uh if you're gonna send him a dm but uh go follow him either way he's got uh some of the best contents out there we follow all of it and and uh and check it out each week too so thanks for coming out man we appreciate

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