Blue By Ninety - HAMMER THE GOPHERS

Episode Date: October 23, 2020

Cam (@themichiganpage) make his second appearance with the boys to chat about his outlook for the 2020 Michigan Football szn, breakout players, Joe Milton expectations, score prediction, and more! Lis...ten to this at your tailgate and crack a cold one (or a few) and get ready for the Wolverines week 1 matchup with Minnesota.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the University of Michigan. Touchdown, Michigan! That's the mix of Michigan law! And they've caught extra pass. And it goes for the win! The three-pointer by Jordan Poole! Down the sideline! Peebles jumps!
Starting point is 00:00:21 Touchdown, Wolverines! Alright, welcome back to Blue by 90. We are here today with Cam again from the Michigan Page. Cam, how you doing today? I'm great, how are you guys? Doing well. Awesome. Repeat guest, love to see it.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Recurring guest, Cam from the Michigan michigan page killing it out there on instagram shout out valiant for his uh for his michigan suit uh jacket here um looking good looking good it's game week boys holy smokes we are so close to seeing Michigan football. And I don't know about you guys, but I've been waiting for this since January 1st. And it has been the longest offseason of all time. And we are so, so close now. How are we feeling? Are we feeling a little nervous?
Starting point is 00:01:22 Are we unsure about what's going to happen? Confident in Joe Milton? How are we all feeling out there? I'm feeling good, man. I'm nervous because I feel like we're not going to be able to see Joe let it loose like everybody was hoping for in game one. Just because of that weather. It looks like a fucking shit show. So, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:43 I guess we'll see a lot of running from the running backs. Maybe even Blake Corham will get in there. And I don't know, man. I'm excited, though. Like you said, it's game week. It's finally here. We never thought it was actually going to happen. But right now we're recording on Wednesday night. We're three days away from football.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Three days away from football. Probably by the time people are listening to this, we could be Friday, Saturday. So, yeah, we could be Friday, Saturday. So, yeah, we could be the game day. I mean, again, Kalen, you said it on our last episode with Craig. This is the longest week of all time, right? Dude, it's so long. It's Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I'm like, dude, hurry this shit up. Let's go. I'm trying to see this game on Saturday. Saturday's going to go even slower. We've got to wait all day. But here's what's going to help us. We have games to watch. That's true.
Starting point is 00:02:32 That's true. Around the country. We've got Big Ten games even Friday night, too. Wisconsin will play on Friday night. I believe Ohio State, Nebraska at noon on Saturday. I'm actually interested to see Wisconsin with this new quarterback because Jack Cohn is out. And then, of course, I'm interested but a little afraid to watch Ohio State
Starting point is 00:02:55 beat the shit out of Nebraska and see just how good Justin Fields is once again. Well, you can flip from that to uh michigan state rutgers right watch game of the week yeah you can say that again well i think we're all gonna take the under on that game yes so so you mentioned it already jack let's get right into what to expect come 7.30 Saturday night. The weather is going to be cold. I think the real feel high for Saturday night is like 21 degrees. So Minnesota, Cam, you're a Canadian boy.
Starting point is 00:03:42 How cold is it up there for you right now? Well, we go by Celsius. I mean, it's your typical fall weather, but we're at that point where it's toward that end of the fall season. The leaves are really, really falling. Actually, especially this week, guys, like we've had a lot of rain and wind. Same here. It's crappy weather. It's not very pleasant. Like I said, we're at a lot of rain so and wind so i'm here it's just it's crappy weather it's not
Starting point is 00:04:05 very pleasant um like i said we're at the end of fall uh approaching that winter season over here yeah well i saw minnesota got some snow yesterday today's wednesday so we're talking about tuesday uh they had i don't know two inches of snow, some wind, and pretty obviously cold temperatures. So something similar for Saturday night in the Joe Milton debut. Right, Roe? Yeah, yeah. I think it's calling for like a 60% chance of flurries or something like that. We'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:04:41 You know, obviously the weather changes daily. But by the time saturday comes it could be it's we know it's going to be cold you know it's there's no heat wave coming um the unpredictable part is the precipitation but i don't know jack you said it already do you think that favors michigan with how good of a running back room they have or is it crap we're really putting a lot on this new offensive line right from the get-go I I'm thinking more towards the offensive line so I think it'll really tell us where they're at you know are they going to be good or are they going to struggle a little bit we got four new starters obviously all veteran guys that have been around but not a whole lot of
Starting point is 00:05:23 experience I mean other than Jalen Mayfield so we'll find out kind of how the o-line is going to do i'm excited to see what the d-line is going to do with a lot of you know run expected from minnesota in that game and then i mean if the o-line can handle their blocks i'm excited to see what the running backs can do like you said we know they're a strong strong group but i think we're really going to find out a lot about the O-line for sure. And Cam I'll go to you on this one so obviously Tanner Morgan and Rashad Bateman are the the you know dual threat there for Minnesota they don't they haven't had a great success in the running game do you think that they'll still be able to throw the ball in that type of weather or do you think they'll have to kind of change their offensive game plan? I think Minnesota's running game is definitely vital for their performance against the Wolverines.
Starting point is 00:06:14 But I think it's more up to how Michigan's defensive backs, cornerbacks, handle a receiver like Rashad Bateman a quarterback like Tanner Morgan and that type of threat you know we lost our best returning cornerback in Ambry Thomas really really really unfortunate if we had him back I wouldn't be very nervous about this matchup at all yeah and so Brad Hawkins came out uh just the other day and said that Rashad Bateman is going to be Vincent Gray's responsibility solely so they're not going to try and go you know zone coverage on them it's going to be one-on-one with Vincent Gray are we feeling confident with that or is it like crap um maybe we should get a new game plan, Don Brown. Kalen, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:07:06 Yeah, I'm hoping that's just like talk, you know? That's just somebody saying something to the media, and then game time shows up and Don Brown has a real plan. Exactly. If anybody actually bought into that media hype, they'll be like, oh, shit, what is that? Okay. Right?
Starting point is 00:07:23 But I'm actually glad you said that about the weather because i was just thinking about it in terms of like oh no joe milton can't throw but you're right it should have a impact on tanner morgan and rashad bateman uh which would make it kind of a ground and pound kind of classic game we all know jim harbaugh eats that up so and exactly and we've seen our running back room and dude i'm dude i'm about to write j harbaugh on my ballot and send it so like dude if it's a running running battle like let's go yeah yeah i i do think that cold weather does favor michigan I can somewhat see it, not that it's going to be to the extent of Michigan-Notre Dame last year in the rain, but Michigan really came out and ran the ball well in
Starting point is 00:08:11 that game, and I can see that happening again. And as we all have said, we trust in Ed Warner to get these guys ready. I actually talked with Spath on Stadium and Maine podcast, and we were saying, we actually think this offensive line could come out and be a strong point for Michigan by the end of the season. So I truly do think that that could be the case. One other thing about the weather, too, I saw a stat just earlier today. Tanner Morgan, in all of Minnesota's games against ranked teams last year, and they won all of them was, or maybe close to all of them. He had over 300 yards
Starting point is 00:08:53 passing into each of them. So that's a real big part to their success there. And if they can't do that, then I think that causes problems for Minnesotanesota um so yeah we'll see how that goes obviously the secondary might be the weakest position group in uh for michigan this season but um yeah i don't know we'll see um let's see uh oh the other one other thing that i wanted to touch on too um right away here is rumors are swirling about the coronavirus in Minnesota. People are saying that Minnesota is not going to be at full strength with their roster. They are going to have multiple people out.
Starting point is 00:09:36 It even came out on some message boards today that they could have multiple offensive linemen that have to sit out for this game so in and on the other hand Michigan came out and said they had zero guys out no new positives so they'll be at full strength what do you guys think Cam Cam what do you think about about that if if they've got a couple people out how big of an impact does that have on this game that's a great point roe i think it's massive massive and my confidence starts to go through the roof if i hear that they're out of two two out of their starting offensive linemen um or any key players we have no idea who could come back with a positive test result this season is going to be wild unprecedented unprecedented. It's going to be one that we've never seen before.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I've already seen it in the NFL. I'm a Patriots fan. We didn't have Cam Newton for a couple weeks against the Kansas City Chiefs. I mean, we didn't have Gilmore. So it's just what's going to come with this season in a pandemic. Yeah, we saw it with Nick Saban, right? I mean, just testing right before the game. I mean, I read an article that they had his like covid sample on a private jet and like flew it back to Mobile, Alabama to test it real quick and get the results. So, I mean, these, like, the money on the line for these teams to play is, like, so absurd that they'll just make it rain to play these games.
Starting point is 00:11:13 But in terms of who's going to test positive when, like, we have no idea. Go for it. Did you have something to say, Jack? Well, I might be changing the subject here a little bit but i don't know if you guys saw the u of m students that are on campus at least i don't think i don't know if it factors into any students off campus but they're they have a stay-at-home order now through november 3rd so they'll be home for the next two weeks i'm shocked they didn't do it a little bit sooner just because of football
Starting point is 00:11:45 season just to make sure that the players aren't interacting with any other athletes or whatever it may be to keep that uh opening game safe um just my little fun fact that's all i've got i hope i hope that was good for you guys you enjoyed it i we appreciate that fun fact of the day from jack shield at shield suites um Sweets. At Shields Sweets. Yeah, but that is something to think about. And the one good thing about that is that he came out and said, this does not affect Michigan athletics. Student athletes are exempt from the stay-at-home order, which I just think is kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Once again, it's like all the time in the ncaa and michigan and the big 10 and all these organizations preach oh they're students first and athletes second they're you know they're definitely that and then when when push comes to shove they're a tier above everyone else and they get special special treatment and they're the only ones that can be out and about in a pandemic that are putting their lives on the line so that we can watch football in the university and can make money so exactly i'm just gonna say and bring the revenue yeah that's what matters the most it's just comical at this point like any commercial that they put out at this point and saying like oh look at these uh student athletes getting their degrees it's like
Starting point is 00:13:05 dude you guys couldn't give two shit about those kids getting their degrees i'm sorry but yeah it's about though it's about how much money you can make off them um so yeah so anyways they are going forward with the game this weekend in minneapolis they still are planning to have the game in ann arbor uh next weekend on halloween that'll be a nooner big nooner big nooner big nooner um so uh let's see what else can we talk about here before uh before game time comes on saturday so um one thing that i have we've been hearing all about from you know the SEC the NFL and everything is pumped in crowd noise what is this stadium gonna be like on game day um so what have you guys heard out there
Starting point is 00:13:55 and what's your opinion should they pump in some game noise or crowd noise I'm sorry or should they do music should they just have it be nothing? What's your opinion on that? I'd like to see them use everything, every element possible. To be honest, just use any type of strategy to just make the atmosphere close to what it would be. You know, like I I don't want to hear absolutely nothing. I don't want to I don't want to hear absolutely nothing i don't want to i don't want to hear freaking pin drop you know what i'm saying right um kind of like how the nba did it they got better as the nba went on too and uh and now the nfl is doing it too so that's what i think
Starting point is 00:14:35 i know we talked about this go ahead kill well i i was gonna say i've just been you know wasting my time watching the lions and so i mean, you hear what the NFL is doing. And honestly, I kind of enjoy it where I'm like, oh, okay. Like there's been a couple times where I'm like, are there people in the stands here? And then they show the stands. There's no one there. I'm like, oh, okay. It's hard to tell from TV.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Really hard to tell. Yeah. It sounds like a real game sometimes. So, if they pump in some crowd noise like honestly i would not be mad at all um i know we talked about this kind of when it first came out that we heard there was any crowd noise i think it's first started with baseball and we're curious about if it's gonna happen with football or not and initially i was kind of thinking i was like i'd love to be able to just hear the the game being played and hear all those hips and hear those guys talking to each other exactly so like you can hear like
Starting point is 00:15:30 bones cracking oh be amazing i couldn't give two ships about crowd noise i would love if if they could make that work where we can hear all of that play on the field and shit talking and whatnot that i would much prefer that. But, I mean, whatever they got to do. Whatever makes most people happy. Yeah, and I'll give you a little inside scoop from the girlfriend over here, who's my inside source as always. Drink.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Everyone drink because I mentioned my girlfriend. Ah, that's good beer. So the Big Ten has come out and said they can only keep it at like 70 decibels, which is nothing. It's not much at all. They can only play it like three seconds after the snap or something like that it's the restrictions are crazy there's there's only certain times that the pa and the pa announcer can say things um nothing during play nothing it's like music has to be in certain times and not it's crazy to me because in my head, okay, we don't have crowds.
Starting point is 00:16:45 That sucks. The way you can make up for that is to pump in all this stuff or let, let these DJs, let the, you know, the media people loose a little bit and say, all right, you guys kind of do your thing to create your own little home field advantage, you know, obviously within some constraints, but create that home field advantage they're trying so hard to keep it level across all big 10 schools and now it's like they can barely do anything which I think it's gonna suck honestly I think it's gonna be really
Starting point is 00:17:18 frustrating to watch especially in week one well how do you guys feel like what if they did it like the NBA instead of pumping in crowd noise they just had music playing throughout the game i don't mind that i don't mind that at all it could be kind of cool i'm surprised they haven't looked at that option yet or maybe they have i don't i don't know i feel like they looked at all options and but i i do think it crowd noise as i as I have watched the Lions and the NBA and everything else, sometimes it sounds so fake that you're like, all right, that didn't sound good when that play happened. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah. We'll see how it goes. I do know, too, like I'm very certain that there's going to be so many of these schools and teams that push the button on these. They're going to be like trying to push it as far as they can until they get a penalty on them or something like that. Ohio State in particular. Oh, definitely. Ohio State. Just for reference here, I looked up a chart about decibels and about 70 decibels is like traffic
Starting point is 00:18:26 like you're standing on the corner and cars are driving by uh 100 decibels would be like putting your ear next to like a handheld drill or something like that so it could have been nice if they could put up could have put it in like the 85 range like a fine nice happy medium there that could have been nice dude they could have put it in like the 85 range. Like a nice happy medium there. That could have been nice. Dude, I say put it up here 150 like a fighter jet or something. Let's go. Let's blow eardrums out.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Maybe Oregon. Maybe Oregon will do that. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see how that goes. I mean, 70 decibels is like nothing, dude. Your car's going by? Come on. I mean, that's going to affect nobody.
Starting point is 00:19:11 What do you think about the players? Cam, you've kind of, you know, you talk to the players more than any of us, that's for sure. What do you think the players are going to think about this with it being quiet in the stadium? It's obviously not nearly as fun. We all know that for sure. But honestly, I have not talked to any players about the lack of an atmosphere.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I really haven't. So I know it's a very disappointing answer, guys. Get out. Get off. They're focused on one thing, and that's to get the win well that's a good thing then i mean they're they're focused and you know they don't care who's in the stands or what's playing on the speakers they're the game's the game so honestly that that kind of makes me feel a little better maybe the tv people will play sounds for everyone watching on TV.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Cam, we'll keep going with that. Have you talked to any guys about the upcoming season? And what have you heard from anybody about how they're feeling about this team? Well, I mean, I just saw Josh Ross, one of our linebackers yesterday, claim that this has got to be the most tight knit team he's he's been a part of in his time at Michigan. So that's very exciting to hear. A lot of players I have spoken to in the past seem to be in favor of Joe Milton starting over Dylan McCaffrey. You know, this was months ago. This was before Joe was announced a starter. And then Dylan decided to head elsewhere.
Starting point is 00:20:48 So I could totally understand why this would be a very tight-knit group, especially if they go through a lot of adversity with a pandemic and unprecedented times. You know what? It can bring a squad together. I'm really excited to see the impact it has. Love it. love it. And I'll keep it going here.
Starting point is 00:21:08 We'll keep hounding you for answers here for a second. Everyone, while we're at it, go follow Michigan, the Michigan page on Instagram. Cam runs that account and is killing it. Are we at 60,000 now? Right around 63. Oh oh humble brag over there and you forgot my twitter and yeah come on twitter too as well i suck at twitter but i'm on there you've been you've been more active than normal on there i've seen you on there a little bit
Starting point is 00:21:42 i'm not working as much man yeah and and you know what um i realized i was like why am i posting all this stuff to instagram and just like forgetting about twitter i i am i am seeing zero growth on my twitter over the last year or so whatever it is and i realized well yeah probably because i'm i hardly post all i do is retweet important news but like you know the best follows on twitter have their own original content. So what I'm just going to try to do moving forward is just post everything I do to my Instagram onto my Twitter as well. Love it. Good. All right, cool. Well, we'll be happy to have you on back on Twitter a little bit more too. Um, but my, my question for you for you is you know in the social media world with
Starting point is 00:22:26 those 60,000 followers what are you seeing or hearing from this Michigan fan base as far as you know hype confidence levels what they're most excited for what what what is it that everyone's looking forward to most for this 2020 football season? Well, like usual, Joe Milton, any Michigan quarterback that's announced a starter heading into the season, carries so much hype. You can call it pressure as well. There's a lot of uncertainty. A lot of people are nervous.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I completely understand that. At the same time, the real fans that really know their roster, there's a lot to be excited for, but there's also a little bit to be nervous for. For example, our running back room is loaded. I am so excited to watch this running back room. Brand new O-line minus one returning starter, almost a whole brand new O-line if Jalen Mayfield wasn't able to come back.
Starting point is 00:23:23 That is major in how the first game plays out. There have been a lot of followers that have been calling Joe Milton's name for two to three years now. It was the same for Dylan as well when we had Dylan McCaffrey. Wide receivers, we lack a big body, 50 ball red zone possession kind of receiver you know nico collins i'm looking at you um i love call him out i love who we have a wide receiver but we lack size we have a lot of the shorter but speedy guys that's the quote-unquote speed and space right um d-line we have a lot of depth, and it's improved depth,
Starting point is 00:24:06 it's improved experience. We need constant pressure out of these two defensive ends, Quiddie Paye and Aiden Hutchinson, as well as that interior at the defensive tackle is Carlo Kemp, Chris Hinton, Mazzy Smith. We need them on their A-game all season
Starting point is 00:24:22 to help out these inexperienced cornerbacks. I feel completely confident in safety. I truly do. It's the cornerbacks that I'm a little bit concerned about. I am curious to see if the Dax Hill, the cornerback was a legitimate thought or, you know, is he just going to play at safety all season? And we're going to act like that was never any talk in the offseason um what do you guys think would you like to see him move to cornerback
Starting point is 00:24:50 do you think we're okay at safety i mean i'd be interested to see what he looks like at cornerback and see if he like he can be that lockdown guy i i think he can totally i think he's fit for press man 100 percent i what why wouldn't he be as good or even better than lavert hill or or you know any of our lockdown corners he's just as fast i i'm assuming he's put on some poundage so he can be just as physical too but i also think that the way we've lost games in the past is deep balls down the middle. And I'm thinking that maybe he can be the guy that helps that out. You know, I'm thinking of him diving at Jerry Judy's ankles last year in the bowl game. But I'm assuming, I bet you he's watched that same film a thousand times and said,
Starting point is 00:25:42 I'm never letting that happen to me again. Exactly. I'm wondering, would he make more plays at corner versus safety? Never really know until we see it. Yeah, I think so. I think he would. Right. I mean, especially I don't know if we can assume he would be the number one DB at that point, just because he's got a little more size than Vincent gray. And, but if he, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:09 And speed definitely speed for sure. So, I mean, he might, I mean, if he would end up being that number one guy, I think he would get more, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:16 more play time as far as like ability to make plays coming at him. Right. Yeah. If you're a lockdown corner wouldn't you be locked down because nobody throws at you so would you really have that many opportunities to get make plays but but that's what a good corner does right they they throw away from you right and so um if they if we have say we have him at him and dax hill and vincent gray at the corners well now you don't have anywhere to throw you know but across the middle i guess and try and get a
Starting point is 00:26:53 match up against you know brad hawkins or whoever would be the backup safety but i believe you know they're gonna try in minnesota, and then every team for the rest of the season is going to go, let's get Rashad Bateman on the opposite side of Vincent Gray, right, and figure out how to get that mismatch. Yeah, I don't think it's a bad idea, but I also don't know who would fill in his spot at safety, and I think that's got a lot to do with it. But let's go back to last uh our
Starting point is 00:27:26 last podcast with craig rowe and what did he say does it really come down to i didn't even say he was my cousin i that doesn't deserve a drink, I'll drink. All right, perfect. Fine, fine. But seriously, though, what he said was that what it comes down to is 11 different one-on-one matchups every single play, right? So if Rashad Bateman is the number one guy on the offensive side of the ball and Dax Hill is the number one guy on the defensive side of the ball and Dax Hill is the number one guy on the defensive side of the ball. Don't you want him covering that guy?
Starting point is 00:28:09 A hundred percent, 100%, especially when it comes to guys like Rashad Bateman, Rondale Moore, Chris Olave at Ohio state, KJ Hamler. I know he's gone now, but last year it would have been great to have Dax Hill covering him one-on-one.
Starting point is 00:28:23 So, I mean, for guys like that, Dax Hill's got the size. He's got speed he's got the athleticism he's like you said he's probably put on some muscle so he's got more a little bit more um physicality to him I mean I think he's got everything that it takes to be a lockdown corner but if that means we're sacrificing safety which I feel like either way would be sacrificing i don't know it's just up to the coaches who obviously i think they know best of where he would be most needed i have an idea
Starting point is 00:28:51 it's on the other side of the ball i want i want to hear what you guys think i just heard this in my group chat it was mentioned today hadn't thought of it before what do you guys think of maybe lining up tight end eric all on the outside for a little size mismatch yes i was just gonna say that because he really built he was he's almost built like a receiver like he's a taller guy a little bit a little bit leaner not like the typical like yeah built tight end almost like um kyle pips out of florida but not as strong not as strong unless like he put on a shit ton of muscle over the boss I really I really like Eric Hall I really dude great hands I mean he's got the athleticism of a wide receiver maybe not as fast but I do like that I love taking Ohio guys away it's great but he could be that guy right and that guy though I like. That kind of mismatch reminds me of, like, Texas last year. Remember Colin Johnson?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Wide receiver, 6'7". That's an absurd mismatch, right? When you have that type of height over, you know, maybe a 6'1 corner, you don't have to be the faster guy. You don't even have to be a good route runner. They just have to get you 15 20 yards down the field and throw it up to the outside where the cornerback can't get it dude who better throw it up than jay millie hey that's right damn right there you know i i do i like that at least it
Starting point is 00:30:17 doesn't have to be all the time but let's do that sometimes in the red zone um throw a fade every every once in a while i like that i was to go around with our breakout players of the year. Cam, are you going Eric Hall for your breakout player of the year, or do you have somebody else in mind? I'm going to go on the defensive side of the ball. Okay. I'm going to go with big old 44, Cam McGrone. I love this guy.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I think he's a great replacer for devin bush i'm not saying he's in his category but he just might be i love him his sideline to sideline speed his aggression his football iq his love for the game give me all the linebackers like cam mcgroan yeah we mentioned that on the podcast i think last week with uh justin's cousin craig bro never heard him and um and uh you know he he plays a lot like devin bush does he's got the speed he's got the physicality sideline to sideline like you're like you said um so if he that would be awesome to see him kind of have a breakout year like Bush did in his second or third season. I can't remember what it was. But I'll go back to the tight ends, man.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I think Eubanks, I thought he should have been the number one tight end last year. I'm excited to see what he can do this year being the legit number one tight end. Also, he's such a trusted receiver at this point. Yeah. He's solid, man. No, he's not. Looking at you, McKeon. He's solid, man. No, he's not. Looking at you, McKeown. Looking at you, Sean.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Don't mention McKeown. Dude, he was playing for the Cowboys. I know he was. He was in the game, so good for him. They must have taught him how to catch the ball. They're hurting for depth over there in Dallas. That's true.
Starting point is 00:32:09 My question They must have taught him how to catch the ball. They're hurting for depth over there in Dallas. So my question about Eubanks is, are we going to see a leaner Eubanks that can move a little bit better? Because he put out a little mixtape. This was early quarantine. I think it was like in the summer. And he caught a sweep like from the backfield he was moving pretty well yeah i i mean i think we could see a different nick eubanks where he can move pretty well and um instead of he he was he didn't move that well last year he i mean he was good but like i felt like he was pretty slow across the middle and then when he caught the ball it was he was never making anybody miss he he moved like a tight end that's for sure yeah
Starting point is 00:32:50 but yeah i mean if he added some speed fuck yeah let's go he always finds himself open somehow i feel like anytime he got the ball thrown to him he's open wide like wide open over the middle i don't know how it ever happened but always seemed seemed to find himself open. So if he had some speed to that, that would be fun to watch. Plus he was rocking, like, Gronk's elbow pad, right? Yeah, dude. Got that Terminator arm. Yeah, that's right. I do think in this offense,
Starting point is 00:33:18 sometimes the tight end can get lost in the secondary in the secondary because you got so many, think about it. If you have, well, obviously we don't have Nico, but if you have, you know, Ronnie bell,
Starting point is 00:33:30 Giles Jackson, Mike Sander, still all these guys through there. And you're worried about all those guys. And then Nick Eubanks or Eric all are kind of lined up inside. You almost forget about them. And then it's like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:33:43 He's wide open over there. Some beat some linebacker or something yeah dude what if you even went like empty backfield right then you could have five wide outs grace evans yeah that's that's scary that's that's a whole chris evans is a whole different talking talking point today uh i think we should all touch on having chris evans back i think that's huge go for it go for it right now well just for you fans followers uh listeners he switched to number nine this year uh just so you know and um i'm very curious to see how he's used we haven't seen running back chris evans under josh gaddis the offensive. So, and we have a loaded stable at running back and a lot of receivers.
Starting point is 00:34:31 So are we going to line him up in the slot? Are we going to use him for third downs and throw to him like a James White type of pass-catching running back on screens? I think he'd be great for that. Because, like, in 2017, we were using him in between the tackles because we made him beef up his freshman year in 2016 he was awesome like i he was so exciting to watch for a true freshman like we don't we rarely have seen that these last couple years at michigan where a true freshman just comes in and just dominates every game and
Starting point is 00:35:05 2017 we had it like it seemed to be a different goal for him we made him beef up a little bit add some muscle eat a little more and he was running in between the tackles and I think he uh his production decreased a little bit so with Zach Charbonnet, Hassan Haskins, true freshman Blake Corham, Christian Turner how are we going to use Mr. Kid and Play? I know. We've kind of talked about that and possibly, like, some two back sets. So maybe Evans is out there with Charbonnet or Evans and Haskins or Charbonnet and Haskins, whatever it may be. But, dude, like you said, I mean, if we got Chris Evans from his freshman year, I'd say he's the number one back and just fucking fill those guys in after to give him a break.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I mean, Evans was a fucking stud. A stud his freshman year. That Hawaii game? Dude, I mean, Purdue, the Purdue game, fucking, I mean, countless games. He was making 30, 40- yard runs for the end zone not something we see a lot florida especially that game yes yeah dude making plays just everywhere making plays everywhere so it's like he's been back i mean i'm glad he has i mean he's been around the block he's experienced he's a veteran he's gone through adversity and now he's coming
Starting point is 00:36:20 back dude i think he's gonna have a huge fucking season. Worked his ass off. See, one thing. Real blue collar guy. Yeah. One thing that concerns me, though, is I always felt like that his freshman season, he was like super agile. And then he put that weight on and it slowed him down. That's what I'm saying. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:39 And when you think about guys who take a year off, what do they do? They hit the weight room really hard. So I don't want him to come back in and have, you know, just be like a linebacker now and be like too slow. The only way I could see that benefiting him is if he's somehow like adjusted to, you know, having a heavier weight. And then he becomes a little bit more of like you know a legit running back who can like plow through a guy maybe here or there hit a couple holes and he maybe gets away from becoming an agile guy and becomes more of like a bruiser type back i don't know just a theory that would be interesting he like his best trait was elusiveness oh yeah and um another uh question
Starting point is 00:37:23 i have is like i noticed when i was looking up the 2020 roster before this podcast they have uh bench mason ben mason listed as a tight end now i know we don't really have a fullback we don't use a fullback under gaddis so i assume ben mason's role will strictly be goal line situations i think we were we're gonna forget about trying him at uh d tackle don't think that was a good idea from the start. I'm getting off topic here with Ben Mason. But yeah, like back to Chris Evans, Ben Mason. I'm curious to see how we use them. I was going to mention Ben Mason, too, because nobody's mentioned his name. And I mean, there's so many offensive weapons. But two years ago,
Starting point is 00:38:02 last year, he kind of played both sides so he didn't get much love on the offensive side two years ago he was like unbelievable right and he hurtled the guy he literally hurtled the guy at like uh Darnell Savage a current Green Bay Packers safety that's insane yeah and and what Ben Mason's what like six 6'4", 280? Like, come on. Is he that tall? No, I don't know. I don't think he is, but still. Still. Regardless.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Either way. What did I say earlier? Didn't I say Mike McRae was like 6'8", 290 or something? I was like, dude, he's not that big. You know what? I was looking at my old post from 2016 i looking back i had this i i loved mike mccray and i love tyree cannell i don't looking back now in 2020 i don't really know why i had this like love for mike mccray and tyree cannell
Starting point is 00:38:58 dude i remember the spring game for michigan footballs zero 2015 or 2016 and uh there was there was a throw over the middle and this linebacker just fucking laid whoever it was out and it was like mike mccray with a tackle and i was like this guy's a fucking baller and i loved him ever since then but he was just i feel like he never really did maybe like crazy wild plays in games, but he was just solid. He was just a solid linebacker. Did he? Mike McCray? And also, we – Don Brown thought, oh, it's a good idea to have him cover
Starting point is 00:39:34 Dalvin Cook against Florida State in the Orange Bowl. Yeah, exactly. That was the thing is Mike McCray – That was such a good game, though. Oh, that was a great game. We should have freaking won that game, too. Yeah. That was such a good game, though. Oh, that was a great game. We should have freaking won that game, too. Mike McCray, great linebacker, but you can't ask him to cover a speedy guy, which is not his fault, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:39:55 He's not built for that. You know, Devin Bush even struggled to cover guys like that. Like, you can't ask a guy that's 200 and – 3,000 pounds. like that like you can't ask a guy that's 200 and 3 000 pounds he's up to 390 right now which is nuts but but in all seriousness yeah but i will like back to ben mason you know i do think that he's gonna be a part of this offense where he's a key guy when we need some you know short yardage you still have this guy that we he was on the uh uh the live stream for you mish hail the other day him and chris evans i missed that yeah yeah yeah he he was dude he's so funny because he has literally great guy he has zero personality outside of just being a football player yeah
Starting point is 00:40:46 literally he just knows football and that's it it was so funny that bolino was on there asking him questions and he was just like yeah i like football i like i really like eating food no wonder harbaugh loves him oh yeah 100 yeah. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. He actually follows my page. He sees every story. I love that guy. Yeah. He's the man.
Starting point is 00:41:11 He's the man. Shout out Ben Mason. Shout out Ben Mason. But my prediction for Chris Evans, he might not get a ton of carries inside the tackles but whenever we're in a third and i don't know seven situation josh gaddis is going to try and get him matched up with a linebacker out there and make imagine chris evans against most big 10 linebackers they got no chance right if he makes one move it's gone they might just get him on a little slip screen or a little like quick slant or something let him try and make one move and then he's gone so i can see him like being a big x factor when josh gaddis ever gets into a pinch here um it's kind of crazy how many weapons this
Starting point is 00:41:59 offense has even losing their best player right yeah dude think about it right even if you had you know chris evans and eric all lined up out there along with you know a ronnie bell a giles jackson someone like that and you're doing it regularly so many things you can do uh and so if you're the other team and and if i was playing db i would just look at who's lined up and just be like, God, come on. God damn it. Honestly, like we have so much more athleticism on this roster. Every year we get more and more. And I'm thinking back to like the 2015 and 16 squad.
Starting point is 00:42:35 And like especially like, guys, think about our linebacking core. Like we have nothing but athletes that linebacker now, like which is what Ohio State's been doing for years. We just need to catch up. And that's what really excites me like i give me all the athleticism possible if i'm if i'm in charge of a roster personally dude i'm so annoyed at myself right now because i've had a couple beers and we're three days from the season starting i've officially convinced myself that this is the year like there's no there's nothing stopping i mean would it be a season if ro called it yeah i mean i've literally like been just talking myself into this it's slowly slowly slowly and now we're here and i'm like i mean what where's our
Starting point is 00:43:27 weakness like there's no way we can be stopped we're getting fucking blown out of minnesota now i'll tell you guys i'll tell you guys for the people that are listening if we do come out flat week one it's not the end of the world notre dame 2018 yeah perfect so don't don't panic don't hit my dms save it please i love that people come to you like you're like i love it you have access i'm just i'm kidding canada man what do i know people come to you like you can go and think like go to practice and fix these things oh my god dude what are you what are you telling ronnie man oh god that's good oh ronnie's my guy we both love the joker yeah dude fucking love ronnie bell
Starting point is 00:44:21 fucking who's your favorite joker who's your favorite Joker? Heath Ledger? Yeah. Hard to beat. Joaquin Phoenix, though. He's a close second. I didn't mess with his costume nearly like I did with Heath Ledger and just like his type of Joker, his character.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I mean, he perfected it. Great acting job. Nothing againstenix at all great movie but one of a kind i really i really like the joker from batman beyond did you guys watch that oh that was a great show was it nicholson oh man oh never mind no there's a cartoon yeah yeah um i i thought it was uh i can't remember his name right now dude played uh yeah mark hamill i thought it was him until the other day when my friend I think proved that wrong is it not I don't believe it is I can't remember who it is but I don't know correct me if I'm wrong I thought it was for years
Starting point is 00:45:19 I love that we like we're three days from Michigan game and we just went down a rabbit hole of the joke i take the blame for that one no it's all good it's all good i've i loved it i love because we got so many scars from getting walloped by ohio state no shit um so let's talk about what everyone's plans are on saturday it has been so i i talked with spath about this too it has been 41 weeks since we have had a michigan football game day 41 weeks since we've had a saturday morning where you can wake up and flip the TV on knowing that the Wolverines are taking the field. How are we feeling? What are your plans? How are you going to feel when you wake up Saturday morning
Starting point is 00:46:11 and knowing that you see the Maize and Blue take that field? I know, bro, you and Kalen know. I just moved into a new house. I'm ready for game day. I already looked at getting a new TV to celebrate Saturday as big as possible. I found out how big my TV stand can hold. So I think I'm going to buy a new TV to celebrate this season finally happening. There's no better impulse decision than to buy a giant TV just because football season is about to start.
Starting point is 00:46:45 I've got an addiction. I've got to feed it. Football season, man, I'm going to wake up. I've got the day off now. I was able to get a little bit of coverage. I'm going to crack a beer, maybe have a mimosa, turn on college game day, listen to Kirk Herbstreet talk a little bit.
Starting point is 00:46:59 You've got to pace it, though. I'll be drinking Bud Light, so I'll be alright. How many beers are you thinking? Like, until 7.30pm, how many beers deep? I put this out on our Twitter the other day, and I'm like, oh man. Like, in reality, I'm embarrassed to tweet that out. I'm thinking a lot of day drinking between morning, early afternoon. Nap before the game.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Wake up. keep it rolling. Yeah. Like drunk nap. Like I'm like, shit, I need to take a nap. I'm fucked up. And then wake up later. You see, like – And watch the game. I'd be like that too, but it's not the best idea for me to run my page just hammered.
Starting point is 00:47:40 True. Just live stream the whole time. Yeah, but also to like – I'd be so emotional and just, oh, man, I'd regret saying some things, you know, no filter. This thing would be like the Michigan Wolverines. Spelling errors throughout every single post. Oh, man. spelling errors throughout every single post yeah man do you guys think like i don't know if you saw my uh penn state post the other day it was like a year ago since that game last season and i you
Starting point is 00:48:14 know i saw this video uh come up on my snapchat memories i like recorded on myself i was just like talk i sent this a couple of my friends who watched the game too it's just like talking about the team and how i felt about that loss even though even though it was a loss I still felt really good about the team and the fight we showed and stuff I'm wondering do you guys think I should like put more of myself on my page and more of my input and what I think pre-game post games I think I mean I'd say hell yeah for sure i mean it's your page you built it i mean i think i think that would be interesting too because we've we've kind of talked about doing like post-game reactions and whatnot like throwing that up there it's like i i mean i think just
Starting point is 00:48:57 throwing up a post-game reaction like right after the game's over that'd be awesome content yeah like use it more as like a youtube channel right but yeah i have i have one negative thing about that and that's all the players that see my posts see what i have to say like i've already like just by speaking online i've had players calling me out so yeah i feel like that could be even worse when i'm speaking as just more of a person and not some anonymous character. But no, but I definitely agree with you guys. I think I will be doing more of it. Also, too, there's just there's more room for negativity and haters. But like you got to just develop thick skin doing something like this.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Yeah. I mean, especially for you with as many followers as you have. But also it's a thing, too. You can put a positive spin on it. You don't have to. I mean, you can put a positive spin on it you don't have to i mean you can put whatever you want exactly right so i mean you control exactly what you're saying which is great so i mean you could i mean it could be a shit game and you could be out there saying like
Starting point is 00:49:55 guys it's not the end of the world yada yada yada i think it'd be awesome content people love it and yeah people will love that because listen listen, Michigan fans, myself included, we're always looking for that positive, you know, something to some excuse or reason or like, you know what, this sucks, but everything will be better in the future. So, listen, I'll be watching you being like, damn it, Cam's right. We're still winning the national championship. All right, let's go. I like it.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I like it. I like it. So, with that being said, and we'll give both pages, maybe we'll give some post-game reactions on Saturday or Sunday or something. Let's give our pre-game prediction. So, let's go around the room here and give our score predictions. Give a little, you know, maybe a little something to it. What is going to happen on Saturday night against the Golden Gophers?
Starting point is 00:51:00 I'll go ahead. I mean, obviously, we've mentioned the weather we know it's gonna be cold it'll be fucking cold like high of what you said 29 real feel high um possibly snow 21 yes i'm even colder so it'll be a low scoring game i mean i gotta be a homer and and root for michigan so i'm going to say 21-17 Wolverines. Okay. I can deal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:31 That's my prediction. So I think this is going to be a game all about T.O.P., time of possession. It's the same way you have to beat the Kansas City Chiefs. Not only do you need D-line pressure, you need to keep the ball out of their hands. I'm thinking, and it's funny too, because our quarterbacks from Florida and our starting running backs from Cali, with this weather, these elements, I mean, though, like, Joe's been waiting. He didn't just get to Ann Arbor.
Starting point is 00:51:58 He knows what these winners are like. This is nothing. I'm not worried about it. I'm thinking 28-20verines but like we're gonna pound the rock man i think a little some fans are going to be disappointed we didn't see joe aired out aired out that much but games will come for that like we will prep for for schools teams differently than other teams that's just how football is that's how the game works you know attack their their weaknesses use your strength you see who's a mismatch who isn't so that's what i'm thinking just keep the ball out of minnesota's hands pound the rock trust the defense
Starting point is 00:52:36 yeah i think that's a good prediction because i mean obviously we're all a bunch of homers right uh i mean due to the weather and everything like that, I'm going relatively low scoring game, right? I'm thinking, I don't know, 24, 21, something like that. And I'm looking at a pretty close game, mostly just kind of ground and pound runs. Are you going Michigan? Yes, sir, of course, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Obviously. All right, here is my prediction. Joe Milton is going to come out, and he's not going to look great in the first quarter. They're going to try and throw the ball. It's going to be shitty weather. He's going to make some mistakes, and it may be weather-related.
Starting point is 00:53:26 It may not be. But they're going to come back, and he's actually going to get comfortable. He's going to get some game experience, feel the game speed and everything, and they're going to start running the ball better to give him some more confidence. Josh Gaddis is probably going to start with some dink and ducks to get him going. Right. Right. Make sure that. But I really do think they're going to take a couple shots deep right away. Show off that arm. See what happens. Maybe not right right away, but probably in the second quarter once he feels more comfortable. Get number one. Yeah. Going deep. Yeah. Yeah. yeah going in deep yeah yeah so they'll they'll get it going i think that honestly i think this game goes to michigan in a in a pretty heavy way i think that i think that they're gonna um
Starting point is 00:54:15 end up just beating the crap out of this team they're fired up honestly i know that i know pj fleck and the gophers are too too, but they's a great coach. He's a great coach. You cannot. Great, great motivator, too. Yeah. Yeah. They're they're going to be ready to go as well. But they did not practice while Michigan was here practicing. They sent the Golden Gophers home. So they were home while we were practicing. So I think that it's going to have a big big difference in in what happens in this football game and i'm going to go ahead and say it's going to actually be a shootout i don't
Starting point is 00:54:50 believe in this defense okay i don't i don't think they're going to shut it down i think even in the cold weather unless it's like some snow rain game great like if it's pouring obviously or snowing you know six inches or something then that could be different but if it's pouring, obviously, or snowing six inches or something, then that could be different. But if it's dry or decently dry, it's going to be a shootout. I think that the Wolverines score at least 40 points in this football game. Wow. 100%.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Holy moly. You know what? I'll tell you. I was torn. I had two scores, 35-24 or 28-20. I think they get to 40. I think that Cade McNamara comes in at the end of the game and throws a touchdown of his own.
Starting point is 00:55:35 I think it goes 42-34. I just don't see it with the weather. I mean, like you said, if it's dry and, like, I you said if it's dry and like i mean if it's cold whatever but if it's like fucking snowing well no way yeah yeah yeah that's what i said so if it's snowing yeah that's what you said yeah if it's if it's like but like flurries i don't know it's not it's not gonna snow six inches hey we gotta we gotta play till mid-december like this is nothing guys exactly if they're gonna like it's gonna be a shit show if they're ever gonna throw it it's gonna be now this is a home opener and it's already
Starting point is 00:56:15 right right usually that first game's nice and warm. Yeah. I'll actually, I'll go No, no, no, no. Don't change it. Don't change it. Leave it. If you end up stealing it, you'll be pissed. I'm only, I'm lessening it. I'm lessening the Gophers side. 42-28. Okay, even better. Okay, I'll take that.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Double-digit wins. Call me crazy. I'm not a hater, trust me, but do you guys think that Joe Milton's going to have a pick six? No. No, because he's thrown a couple picks.
Starting point is 00:56:53 He has a cannon, but he has not... It's garbage time, though. Can't count garbage time. That's even worse, dude. I mean, he could. It's garbage time when he's behind, trying to make plays. It's not like it couldn't happen. I mean, he could. No, because it's garbage time when he's behind trying to make plays. It's not like it couldn't happen. I mean, it could happen.
Starting point is 00:57:09 I'm not even going to put that in my head. I'm just not going to put it in my head. I don't think he'll throw a pick six. I do think he has an interception probably early in this game because it's game speed. He hasn't seen that before. He's been killing it in practice. Since is at an all time high.
Starting point is 00:57:28 He's going to go out there and try and force some things. Cause he's like, yeah, I got to make all the plays. I can make this throw guy. Yeah. Yeah. He thinks he can make every throw.
Starting point is 00:57:38 So I think that he's going to force something and it's not going to work out in his favor. How many yards rushing do you think Joe Milton will have? have that's a big question i'd say 50 plus 50 plus really 50 plus yeah i mean if they're calling me i'm thinking 25 25 so i'm okay yeah it's probably more realistic but i'm saying 50 plus if he can actually pull a read accurately, unlike Shea Patterson, I think it's an easy 50 he can get. Yeah, that's right. I have a bold take about Shea.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Oh, we're going back to Shea Patterson. The backlash might be rough, but I think that we didn't need to go for Shea Patterson. We didn't need to recruit him. We didn't need to take him into Ann Arbor. We should have just developed Joe and Dylan because we probably wouldn't have lost Dylan. I am ticked about that.
Starting point is 00:58:33 And Shea was great. Shea was pretty consistent. But hey, his first season, 2018, was actually better than 2019. And I'd rather just have Joe and Dylan for longer and they'd have a lot more experience by now like joe could have been so much more proven at this point yeah i was so worried we're gonna lose him because he waited and waited and waited like thank god he did yeah thank god he did that's for sure but i know i mean you think about like shay patterson was the number one recruit in his class quarterback recruit in his class, right?
Starting point is 00:59:05 I don't know how. Coming out of Ole Miss. I mean, he plays at Ole Miss. We can't deny that. So, I mean, I think everybody was pretty excited to see what he can do at Michigan because we didn't really know exactly what – 100% different type of offense. He looked like Manziel for Ole Miss. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:20 I mean, I think if Michigan would have – I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. know yeah i mean i like looking looking hindsight 2020 i'm with you i think if we could have had like mcafree take over at that point and then eventually milton would have got in there i think we would have been a better place but i think at the time we were all pretty excited for shay we were absolutely and i trust me i remember that height but i feel like in 2019, we really pressured him to be mostly a pocket passer. But the guy – oh, you know what, too? You know what, too?
Starting point is 00:59:52 You got to think about this. He hurt his ribs against Middle Tennessee State week one. Yeah. He was not healthy. No. Like that Army game? No. He was not healthy.
Starting point is 01:00:02 You know who else wasn't healthy majority of last year was that yeah that's true really really not still a beast i always still did well he had 11 touchdowns almost 800 yards he's a freshman record one of my uh biggest surprises was hassan haskins and that notre dame performance yeah like this guy was a former converted linebacker. Yeah. He took over the starting job at that point for sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Do you guys think Blake Horne is going to get significant time this season as a true freshman in a loaded room? We talked about this a little bit on our last pod and i don't we don't see it no do would you guys compare him to someone compared him to uh clyde edwards alair yeah i would 100 compared to that i mean dude's a freaking stud right like we know he's super talented he would have been a four or five star if he was taller straight up yeah. 100%. 100%. I think the Clyde Edwards-Hilaire is a great comparison. You know who else was very short? Mike Hart.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Incredibly short. Yeah. About the same height. Corum's, I think, more athletic and probably a little bit quicker. Yeah. Corum will have his day. He'll have his day. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:22 It's not 2020. He'll have his day. It's not 2020. He'll have his day. It might not even be 2021, honestly. But I don't know. People are saying – I've heard that Charbonnet is like a different human being this year. Healthy Charbonnet is very different. He also said he really hit the weights in quarantine, but the guy was already huge. He was already jacked.
Starting point is 01:01:45 His legs are mammoth. Sort of come out looking like Saquon Barkley. And you know what? He would have been a five-star if he didn't tear his ACL senior year. I've been very, very excited for Zach since he committed. Yeah. I even, like, when he was here on visits, you know, the people that were down on the field with him were telling me he was just as big as a lot of the offensive line recruits that were coming in.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Like, yeah, that he's that big. His legs. He's just a thick boy. Thick with like multiple seeds. Yeah, I will say this. So i'm a little skeptical about the depth you know knock on some wood guys right now but um after joe you know like we would have had dylan oh yeah ready to go i would have been thrilled like two starting quarterbacks mind you if you have two starting quarterbacks you have none there's always a saying i'd ideally like them to choose one roll with it but kade mcnamara and dan valari the true freshman ah the goat whoa whoa whoa hold on about dan he's a second round draft pick second round we move him down oh he's first round draft he's the first rounder top 10 baby he's wearing that gym hardball number four for a reason. We,
Starting point is 01:03:07 we talked to us a few weeks ago. We talked ourselves into Dan Valari being a first round draft pick, like really quickly. So I want to let you guys know some insider information here.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I talked to, I, uh, talk to some people around the program and what I heard, what I heard was that, was that drink to that.'m all out boys i heard
Starting point is 01:03:29 i heard nico collins went up to dan valari and said i only feel safe taking the number one if i give you my number four uh i don't know who told you that right now who told you that is my guy i may have just made that up oh okay i may have just made that up on the spot but i love dan valari that hype that one video he's got on his instagram got me hyped man yeah yeah that was that was nice he's the goat dude speaking of number four um just so you guys know i'm pretty sure Vince and Grace switched to number four from 31. So yeah, I like that a lot better for him. 31 is a nice corner number,
Starting point is 01:04:12 but I like those single digits. I do too. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, guys. So we, we have two players wearing the new number zero.
Starting point is 01:04:22 I'm sure you guys all know who they are. Tell the people. Tell the people. So Giles Jackson, is wearing the new number zero i'm sure you guys all know who they are um so giles jackson from so giles jackson he ideally wants to wear number five but joe won't give it up um joe and seven look great by the way but anyways he did yeah i loved him in seven he also wore three for a couple games um anyway so giles jackson is wearing zero as well as true freshman corner andre selden who is a very short guy but like a dog complete dog instinct good football iq loves the game i think he'll be covering the slot i don't really know exactly yet we'll see i mean usually slot guys are a little bit bigger um but yeah those are the two guys wearing the new number zero the
Starting point is 01:05:05 only problem with this number zero guys is that it looks exactly like a blocko did you see ohio state made like a blocko jersey so they're giving the zero to like it's basically they're like number one that's that's pretty cool that's pretty cool it is i got a lot of respect that makes sense i think they do a lot of things that are really cool with college football i'm sure i'm gonna get a lot of respect. That makes sense. I think they do a lot of things that are really cool with college football. I'm sure I'm gonna get a lot of hate for that, but I love the way that they do shit. They're doing everything right.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Especially in terms of social media. Um, another thing that they do is like a true freshman comes in and he, I think he starts with the black stripe and then he has to earn the scarlet stripe. Or maybe he even starts with no stripe. I'm not exactly sure, but I find that really cool yeah it's unfortunate how cool they do things honestly
Starting point is 01:05:51 it really really is man um all right well but i feel like we could just i mean we could talk until the sun rises now um about this but let's go to our zero to 90s i've got nothing prepared i know that jack and kaylin probably have nothing prepared but it sounds like i'm just taking it sounds like i'm just gonna act like i'm not prepared either i don't study boys sounds like cam has something prepared so we'll we'll we'll go to those who wants to start here anybody yeah cam to go last or cam to go i don't study i'm not prepared but i'll start i feel we got to have cam go last save the best for last okay i'm just gonna repeat a take i had from earlier but i'm ready good i'm all the listeners
Starting point is 01:06:37 are really you know waiting to hear another thing that you said once more. Yeah, thanks, guys. Jesus. Are you going to start me off? You can drink your beer. What are you doing? I'm drinking the whole time that you talk. Jack, yours, 0-90 starts now. Okay, so not only did Nico Collins hand gift, wrapped, tied a bow on top of the number four jersey, Dan Valari,
Starting point is 01:07:07 but Michigan is going to ground and pound, I'm going to say 250 plus rushing yards against minnesota and i'm going to double down and say 21 17 for my prediction for the game michigan's want to know after the first after the first game we're going to roll into sparty uh preparing for a beat down uh of theans in Ann Arbor. Again. Again. And you got to remember that run game that we threw mini in 2017. Chris Evans, MVP, along with Klee Hudson on the D. That game was nuts. But, I mean, it was a little bit rainy. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Yeah. Beautiful. Nice. All right, Kalen, you ready? Yes, sir. All right, Kalen, your 0 to 90 starts now all right i know my score prediction was low and i don't think joe's gonna have that many yards passing but i think joe milton will have over 100 rushing yards wow he will be running read option and he will know exactly what he's doing he's had all summer into the fall to prepare dude he's gonna get out in the field in space against some
Starting point is 01:08:14 db boom mac truck on him so joe milton let's go love it love. Absolutely love that take. Love that take. That one felt good, didn't it? It did. It felt really good. Thank God everyone listening has just stopped listening so far. They're probably drunk with us at this point. Who's fucking out and keeps burping? All right, somebody get me here. You ready, Justin, Mr. Gold Mike?
Starting point is 01:08:42 I am. Did you use a blow dryer on your hair today? It looks very nice. I like it. He's feeling himself. Oh. Oh, that's true. That's why I wear a hat. Is that what you were going to say?
Starting point is 01:09:00 That was a low blow. Anyways, I'm going to go cry in my closet now. You look a lot better than when you tried to shave your head. That's all I'll say now. That's true. At least you can grow a beard, man. That's true. He's got a great beard.
Starting point is 01:09:13 At least when I'm bald, I'll be able to have a beard. I can't grow shit. All right, go for it. Justin, you're zero to 90 stars now, buddy. I don't know why I felt like doing that. So unnecessary. So unnecessary. All right, I'll go for it. Kalen, I'm going to piggyback on yours a little bit.
Starting point is 01:09:39 I think mine last week was that Joe Milton is going to have more rushing touchdowns than he will passing touchdowns in game one i like that take i like your take even better i am going to do a little something very similar we are going to have over a hundred yards rushing from a non from non running back position players here so it's going to be quarterbacks wide receivers combined they're all going to have over 100 yards rushing here with reverses some little you know sweeps or something like that qb loads qb sweeps things like that i think they're going to be very, very, you know, unique in how they run the football in this bad weather.
Starting point is 01:10:30 I like it. Okay. A little Giles Jackson jet sweep out there. Maybe a little Roman Wilson. Ooh. I don't know. Cornelius Johnson. They said Roman Wilson's faster than.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Fast. A.J. Henning's fast, too. Right? Yeah. We Fast. A.J. Henning's fast too, right? Yeah. Weapons. Yep. All right. Cam, you got to do better than us.
Starting point is 01:10:55 You have to one-up us, all right? You told us before we got on that you've got a couple hot takes. I'm ready for a steaming hot take. Cameron, mocked. Is it mocked or mocked? Mocked? I'm ready for a steaming hot take. Cameron Mott. Is it Mott or Mott? Mott, like M-O-T-T. Okay. Ooh, like the children's hospital. We'll cut that out.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Yeah, exactly, exactly. Cameron Mott, the Michigan page. Your 0-90 starts now. Okay, well, I have a lot of things here. I first wanted to say, not only on the last pod did I say Giles Jackson will be the Big Ten Returner of the Year. I wanted to say that Cam McGrone will be the Big Ten Linebacker of the Year. But I thought, oh, you know what? That's for the overall season.
Starting point is 01:11:41 I got to talk about this matchup. For the season, though, Quidipe, Aiden Hutchinson, best defensive end combo in the country. Not the big time. The country. The whole country. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:55 And my hot take for this game specifically is that Zach Charbonnet, Chris Evans, Hassan Haskins, all three have a touchdown. I thought you were going to say they're going to combine for like 300 yards or something, but I'm cool with a touchdown. I thought he was going to say everyone has 1,000 yards rushing for the year. I wanted to zoom in and just have a couple hot takes for this specific game that we're having this pod over. Love it.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Save the good ones for a little bit later. Yeah. That's a great take. So what do you think about that, all three running backs with a touchdown? I don't hate that at all. I don't hate it. I think they'll probably give all of them an opportunity to, right? Do you think they're all rushing touchdowns?
Starting point is 01:12:44 Yes. of them an opportunity to right do you think they're all rushing touchdowns or yes all i mean zach and uh zach and hassan could have rushing touchdowns and then evans with the receiving but just for this i'm gonna go with all three rushing yeah i like it you know what i my prediction is if that's the case, how are you going to defend that if you're Minnesota or anybody else on the schedule? There's three different guys that can get in there and score on you or at least get some yardage. That's tough to defend.
Starting point is 01:13:19 I love it. I love it. All right. Anybody else got any final thoughts before Saturday, before this season opener? I want to hear you guys. Let's hear a little positive talk here before we go into it. A little pregame speech or something. Kalen, chocolatey voice here.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Let's go. Well, this will be where I devise all of my pregame rituals for the rest of football season, right? Whatever I do on this game dictates whether what I don't or do do for the rest of this eight weeks, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:55 So I'm going to get up in the morning, right? I'm going to put game day on. I might even make myself a pancake or something like that. Right. But the moment those games start, it begins. I am going to crack a beer, probably with my key and shotgun it on my porch like a savage, right? Throw it.
Starting point is 01:14:15 I don't care. Dude, I am so ready for football season at this point. Like, laws mean nothing to me anymore. I am going to just walk down to the stadium, take out my Comcast remote, turn the game on in the big house. I'm ready to play. So let's go. Oh, I love it. That was incredible.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Oh, my God. Anybody else? Go for it, Jeff. I'm sure I'm with you guys. My guy, Jeff, at Cox by 90, I hope you're listening. We're hammering the wolverines this weekend we're betting on the wolverines this weekend gonna make a little bit of money here and uh you know let's come back with a w kaylin i'm a little disappointed that
Starting point is 01:14:57 you're waiting until game until the games start to start drinking i hope you i hope you come over a little bit earlier you misunderstood after game day ends at noon start noon so you're waiting until noon once game day comes on you got to crack that beer a little bourbon in your coffee maybe well that's where you're drinking your mimosa try that'm going to try that. A little Bailey's in your coffee, something like that. Either way, we're hammering the Wolverines. Blue by 90. I'm doing my best Jeff impression that I can. And I'm rooting for the Cocks against LSU.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Hell yeah. Hell yeah. All right, Cam, what do you got? What's going on on Saturday? All right, guys. All right, guys. So our back's against the wall there are a lot of michigan fans out there that claim oh this team's going four and four that's the absolute ceiling we have every single guy in this room needed to win this game and not just this
Starting point is 01:15:59 game every other game on the schedule look at everyone you. Look at them dead in the eye and know that you have your brothers back and you're about to go to war for them. Let's go. I'm ready to run through a brick wall. Holy shit. I can't believe we're still days away
Starting point is 01:16:19 from this football game happening. Are we really? We should have recorded this podcast on Saturday at 6pm or something. We did this for you guys so you can listen to it before the game. If we recorded that Saturday at 6pm
Starting point is 01:16:36 it would be totally incoherent. I'm feeling the same way that you boys are. I already told you. I'm convinced. I convinced myself that this is the year. I don't see why it wouldn't be. We've got all the weapons.
Starting point is 01:16:53 We've got everything we need. Joe Milton is going to – this is the time that we are going to be pleasantly surprised. When was the last time as a Michigan Wolverine fan were you pleasantly surprised by anything? So we are going to be surprised by even with the hype we're going to be surprised at how good this team is how efficient that offense is and they're gonna my my prediction is that they're going to have some heart they're going to have mental toughness that they've never had before on the road in Minnesota they haven't done well we went we went over the last time that they've won on the road as a ranked team but I think that
Starting point is 01:17:31 this team is different this team has mental toughness this team has heart this team is going to surprise not only us but the national media and you know what they're gonna go into week eight and surprise some people as well so we'll give a little uh you know prediction for later in the season too we'll get over the golden gophers but no problem first of all though i love it i love it i love the week eight prediction already i like that get me hyped up for the end hey an empty an empty shoe stadium i'll take it hey right we'll never look cleaner we've got ohio state on on the mind at all times right we have to have to yeah it takes all of us it takes all of us to beat ohio state yeah so all right well All right. Well, that was Blue by 90. That was a great podcast. Thank you to Cam for coming on. Cam, plug yourself here.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Give us a little rundown of where we should follow you. My full name, Cameron Mott. Last name, M-A-C-H-T. It's German. I'm The Michigan Wave on Instagram and Twitter. The Michigan Page. Sorry. Twitter. The Michigan page. Sorry. Jesus. Oh, a couple of beers deep, but, um, I'm always, I'm always wave to you guys. Whatever you want to call me, cam wave hail to mish page, Michigan page.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Um, him, my DMS, if you want to talk about anything i'm pretty active in the dms and um this podcast right here inspired me to make some posts so i'm gonna get to that right after this hell yeah dude hell yeah can't wait everybody go follow cam at the michigan page on instagram on twitter he's getting up on his twitter game so make sure to tweet at him as well we will see you guys next week after a Michigan W let's hope and we'll have some great feedback some great analysis we'll have some people on with us to to give us some analysis on what happened in the game and what's going on in the future. So thank you for listening. This is blue by 90. You can follow us at blue by 90 on Twitter
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