Blue By Ninety - HAPPY THANKSGIVING, JUST BEAT OHIO STATE.

Episode Date: November 24, 2022

Happy Thanksgiving from the boys, lions are winning, just beat ohio state.

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I am Justin, joined by Jack and Kalen. All boys. It is Thanksgiving morning. We don't take days off here. We don't take days off. I mean, people think that this is just an easy life to sit here, podcast, and drink Tall Boys on Thanksgiving. But, you know, we got things to do. But we are, you know, you listeners are more important to us than us.

We don't put ourselves first. No, never. Selfless. Selfless podcast here. Yeah. Yeah. We're like, you know, there's the no star defense. We're the No Star Podcast.

I like that. Is that taken yet? We might have to change the name. Just change our entire brand. I say go for it. We're the No Star Podcast where nobody really knows who we are or what we do,

but we somehow kill it. Hey, we are or what we do but uh but we you know we somehow kill it so um but hey we are i'm not good at math somebody do the math it's 11 a.m we're 49 hours out yeah yeah good job 49 hours out i mean that mean, that was way easier after I realized that. Dirty birds. Your mic is not on now. I said something super funny. Damn.

Oh, my God. I forgot that I muted myself. So, we are 49 hours out from the game. It's literally all I've thought about all week long i have been so not productive when i absolutely needed to be productive oh yeah um but here we are how are you guys feeling dude i feel great positive vibes only positive vibes only kaylin's not so positive vibes only and i told him if you're gonna say anything negative keep it away from me because my vibe is too high going in that's yeah that's constructive vibes only that's that's where i'm at i like that yeah so constructive vibes only we're positive we only have good things

to say but if there's something we're worried about we've got a solution to the problem solution to the problem yeah that's what we need i like that i like that um i i'm trying to bring it up here i had a text exchange that would throw jack into an absolute tizzy well because everybody's fucking people i'm not even don't even get me started on basketball don't even get me started i i promise you i am not 11 no undefeated season i it blows my fuck off. People love to be miserable. I'm not allowing this basketball team to... I'll worry about them in a bit, but I will not allow this basketball team to take down

where we're at right now. I won't either, because they're not. They're 5-1. There's some things that would change. There's some things that would change for sure, but we're a 5-1 basketball team. We have things to learn. Lots to be happy about. Lots to be happy about.

Yeah, I mean, the one thing that I would change is maybe our schedule for the next, like, five games because we play, like, 100 ranked teams and play UNC, who's the number one team in the nation. I'm not sure it's going to go well. It's what they're doing, man. They're just helping us out with the money lines so we can take michigan money line when they play and we

get better odds and make some money i said this what did i say this against i say this before the illinois week probably um university of michigan wants their fans to make money right so they can spend money i like that more money more money you spent so they're just fucking raking it in doing all these you know i got all these conspiracy theories and i believe that's what's happening right now so we can make money the rest of the season keep doing what they're doing every day i know you become more of a tinfoil hat guy i feel like like the whole persona i think 100 dude yeah all these conspiracy theories they're making me like debate to grow my hair out so they can't get into my brain as easy with the with the long i

mean look can we talk about that the picture that i posted for your birthday like incredible well i mean the hair looked good but i like i was like god damn bags under my eyes we had must have been like drinking all day i was pretty dream for like 72 hours straight we hadn't i was like i gotta get my life together but the the hair the flow was hair did look good and i'll go to my bar are you going to back out i'm thinking about it i'm thinking wow i'll take credit for that when it happens that's fine that's fair um all right so back to my text exchange. Jack is going to like he might he might hang up the call here. I texted a couple of my buddies. I said, I have convinced myself that we're going to get our ass kicked on Saturday.

You said that. I said that. Why? I was I had done like three shows yesterday, like did did a whole YouTube live show with Ohio State people talking about it. I, you know, we're just, they're talking about all their strengths. And I just like, I went into a little bit of a rabbit hole, negative vibes only, to be honest with you. And I was just, I, the reason why I don't try to get myself too positive for this game because I don't I know I'm going to be in the stands and I am worried about my mental health. Really, it was where we're at.

That's you know, that's I'm going to say that's fair, but I need you to stop talking about Michigan football without me around. OK, I'm going to make sure your mental health game is like way up here for it. You're going to be feeling good. But also, I think this pot to spin this positively. You and I talked about this when I, when I actually picked these mics up and stuff this week, I think you need to be negative vibes that day, because if you're not,

I think you're going to die. You might get stabbed in Columbus. Well, I agree with you. I think if I start like spouting off in Columbus, like somebody is going to murder. So I'm okay with your negative vibes for that reason. Yeah.

I think I'm just going to stay quiet. I mean, if we win, that is going to be a tough task. I need you to have a muzzle on your mouth and mittens on your hands so you can't talk shit on Twitter. You can't say anything. What's the mittens for? He's throwing up gang signs or what? Well, no, so he can't like talk shit on twitter you can't say anything what's the mittens for he's like throwing up gang signs or what well no so you can't tweet i want to need to like you think i can't tweet uh from columbus i don't know maybe i think you're going to have to. I mean, I'm going to have to. But, okay, the point was that I texted that and I got some responses. Guys, we need to enjoy this.

11-0. We are elite. We're not some sacrificial fucking lamb. Let's go fuck this. Yes. Who said that? Derek. I don't think you know him. Derek Henry? Yeah, Derek Henry. He's a big Michigan guy. Yeah. Derek. I don't think you know him. Derek Henry? Derek Henry. He's a big Michigan guy.

Yeah. Immediately, I said, hell yes, this is the response I needed from that text. And then I went into a whole like, we're going to fucking win. You know, just I'm so mentally unstable.

Dude, you know what we fucking need is we need a hotline. This is definitely not. I want to take this as a good joke on mental health and like the 988 hotline with the hat that you're wearing. I am wearing. We need a hotline. Positive vibes only for Michigan fans over the next three days. Open that up. I will be at the call.

I will answer a text and I will give you positive notice. think that would be great actually it'd be incredible people can just call eric and i'll run it it'll be like in the morning i'm like hello i just don't think we're gonna win dude we kicked their ass last year over a thousand days we we leave the all-time rivalry it's really people are talking about it not even really being a rivalry anymore because Ohio State hasn't beaten Michigan in so long. Got to get that energy up, dude. Energy up. I like that.

AJ's going to have a great game. Best game of his life. It's going to be like 1155. It's going to be 1155, and I'm just like inside Ohio Stadium just shaking, and I'm like calling you in a bad spot right now maybe if you go in so positively unstable then people will stay away from you because you're like crazy guys crazy right and you're like, this guy's crazy. And you're like, we're going to fucking win.

Right. That's true. That's true. I gotta be so psychotic, so psychotic that people stay away from me, except for like, I, okay.

I think that was a good idea. I'll get in the stands. I think that's a good idea until I just realized that Ohio State fans are like actually playing people out there. Who are you going to the game with? Zach Cayley, Zach Daniel. We got a whole crew. We got a good crew. Okay, good.

So you've got some safety there. Yeah, yeah. People probably think Zach Leonard, or not Zach Leonard, Zach Johnson is a fucking former right guard or something. True. Somewhere. He's like six, eight to seven. The tall guys standing next to each other.

He's your, he's your bodyguard for the weekend. Dude, he needs to be. I said this, like I, I've been there. I've been actually, this is kind of a, this is like, there's a reason why I guess I have some struggles, maybe some negative vibes sometimes. I've been at every Michigan-Ohio State game since 2014. Yeah.

I mean, you've really seen the damage firsthand. Yeah. You got a lot of trauma. You got a lot of trauma. Yeah. That's okay. That's something we've worked through i i was there also in the only one i or sorry i was the only one i wasn't there for was 2014 i went to 2010 and 2012 as well

um there was a 48 24 game where we were just that 2014 team was really bad we were at that 2020 game yeah they made a sign on NDA we couldn't like say we were there but I just said it we won too we did win

we did win that game yeah three years haven't beaten your rival in three years that's me holy shit um all right i uh yeah i i'm i'm feeling all right i'm flying to columbus tomorrow so i'll be able to get like my feet on the ground to be able to yeah it won't be like uh you know get in saturday morning and i'm just like jitters from the, you know, never really get my get my head on straight.

I don't know if that's better that I have like thinking about me walking around Columbus like Friday night sounds like a terrible idea as well. Yeah. That's a good point there. Like, because I think about it like and i it's actually really funny i can go down a whole rabbit hole here but um and i'm kind of going to even when i played baseball like i was never a very good shortstop because i had like too much time to think right like too much time to kind of like see the ball where's it gonna go i was a better third baseman because i could just react kind of like to what was happening get Get my hand on the ball, stop it,

throw my cup in front of it or something. Jack makes a crazy diving play, and then instead of getting up to throw the ball, he just rolls over and tries to make the throw. Oh, yeah, never get him out. I can make the stop, never make the throw. Too much time to think there. It sounds like you...

That's where I'm trying to relate this to. Maybe it is better off just to get there Saturday morning. You're thrown right into the fire. You don't have too much time to react and you're just going to like go with it. Because I'm just going to be in a hotel room in Columbus Friday night, like not sleeping at all. Your vibes are going to be bad. You're going to have bad vibes. I need there to be a shit ton of Michigan fans around you to like –

Well, you've got to pump it up. You've got to pump it up. You've got to pump it up, dude. Get in that hotel room. Don't you know? Pump it up. You got to pump it up, dude. Get in that hotel room. Don't you know? Pump it up. Blast Mr. Brightside, right? Blast.

I think you just bring a Chromecast and just put – I just put the last year's game on repeat for 24 hours. Friday night, right? What's that? We're doing the rewatch tomorrow night? Yeah, we'll do it tomorrow night. I'll do it from the hotel so that'll be that'll be good vibes that'll be a great setting for good vibes that'll be really

we're here for you yeah thank you i need i just need your vibes to be high all right we're in good shape we're in i'm i'm great i i will say like i haven't been totally negative vibes all week it's i've been incredibly mentally unstable it's been back and forth i flip flop one one minute i'm like we're there's we have zero chance of winning this game and then the next minute i'm like i mean we're 11 and oh why wouldn't there's no chance i mean there's just i mean i just think about like the possibility if they lose this game like i'm becoming a fucking oregon fan or. I won't go that far. Already setting up your next team.

Yeah. But I do picture – I've pictured myself walking out of that stadium with a win and just how miserable 100,000 Ohio State fans will be. Yeah, what do you do? Which is the biggest – I think I sprint. I think you got to get out there as quickly as possible. And he is the biggest. I think I sprint. I think you got to get out there as quickly as possible. Like, get the fuck out.

Dude, storm the field. Oh, man. I don't know. We did it. Yeah. Oh. So they, it was 20. I can't remember which game it was that they stormed the field after this was back in like

2012 or something like that i think it was when they went uh 12 and 0 but they but they got vacated yeah yeah but they stormed the field and we were sitting there waiting for my cousin like right outside the locker room which is right outside the stadium, the entire stadium filed out through the exit of where we were standing. And it was just an hour's worth of berating people. Yeah, it was miserable. So I've thought about that every day since. That reminds me of when I think it was the 20, the trouble with the snap game was 2016, 2017?

2015. That was so long ago. I remember just walking home from that tailgate just being like, this is an awful feeling. Fucking terrible feeling. Fifth place rival and you're lose on a fumbled snap. It's tough.

I remember I have had some really terrible walks to the car from ohio stadium where you just you just put your head down you just walk i have and then they just like shit talk you all the way back you can you just have to wear it you just have to wear it that's why we got to win the game right so i agree thank you for bringing us back there's some key guys that we need in the game and i want to hear from you like you're you're my insider so what's the injury report let's uh uh sure yeah what do we got there anything whatever you can say i think yeah i can't share some things, but I'll share as much as I can here.

I think that – I think Corham will play. I think that – He said he was going to play, didn't he? Yeah, he said it, yeah. Well, he's like implied it and like – I don't know, there's been some weird things I guess that have gone on. I think he would have to be like – like his leg would have to be non-functional for him not to play. So I think even if he's at 80%, I think he's going to go.

The player I'm worried about is Donovan Edwards. Do you have anything on that that you can say? I don't even know. Is he hurt? He is hurt. He is hurt. I think he's going to try to go, but I don't think – if I had to say something, like,

Blake Corum is in better shape than Donovan Edwards. I'll say that. Fuck. Well, I mean, great. I hope that means Blake is fucking good. Yeah. Not having Donovan hurts, man. Scooney?

Anything on Scooney? Scooney, I believe, will play as well. I believe A.J. Henning will play, too. um so i haven't done on hertz man schoony anything on schoony schoony i i believe we'll play as well um i believe aj henning will play uh to he was out with a you think he might get um some snaps at running back caleb was talking about this the other day he's like dude i don't hate that why not why not if we're like i'm making a d-ball sand rule i mean if we're struggling to run the ball like let's say c CJ Stokes is the backup, right? And we're like, man, we just can't go anywhere. Just, you know, let's see.

I would love to see CJ have a big game. Oh, that'd be awesome. God, this reminds me of Chris Perry. Chris Perry is my life. Yeah, he does very much. A lot of it is the number 23, but he does. Like 100% of it is the number 23, but like I just love seeing that number in the backfield for Michigan.

What about our guy, Keegs? Oh, yeah. Fuck. Our guy who? Trevor Keegan. Oh, Keegs. I think Keegs will be good to go. Trenta is good to go. If Keegs is good to go, that's huge,

huge moves. I don't think people realize how good he is who's been playing in his place el hadid yeah i think geo's been great but he's just right right there yeah um he's still young you know it's it's only sophomore right yeah he's a sophomore i believe yeah because he was in jj's class i'm pretty sure yeah um the one i'm worried about honestly is junior colson junior colson went out in the second half of that of that illinois game um fuck so i don't know i honestly have no idea if he's in or out or if he was just like about the guys the guy out this season the guy hasn't played at all He's had a hammy that just has been nagging like crazy

every time he tries to come back. Man, dude, if Junior's not playing, that's tough. That's what I'm saying. Corum's obviously gigantic, but I think Junior might be the next up in terms of most impactful. Because he's an athletic linebacker. Not that Barrett or anybody else isn't but like junior's just like he he's just a freak of nature and and the bigger deal is like we would

replace him with jimmy rolder who's a freshman and i just i i see a scenario where jimmy rolder freshman jimmy rolder is going up against like marvin harrison jr across the uh right i have no idea i don't even i don't i've never heard this name before in my life going up against Marvin Harrison Jr. across the span. I have no idea. I've never heard this name before in my life, and that's nothing against Jimmy. I just don't follow recruiting or anything. Is he like a big-time freshman talent or something? Jimmy Roller is.

So, actually, Ohio State wanted him back, and he chose Michigan. Ohio State naturally got the number one. He was the number two linebacker. Naturally, He was the number two linebacker. Naturally, they got the number one linebacker. But he's very good. But he's just – he's a freshman. Positive vibes only. Jimmy Roller breakout game.

Hey, remember last year? Andrew broke out versus MSU. Jimmy Roller, Ohio State. You know what I mean? Shit happens. Hometown. Hey, I'm excited. All right. Let's talk about let's

talk about the offense a little bit can we i mean let's speak an angel breakout game into existence oh my god dude jj's thrown for 450 all right he's running for 200 i'm fucking like so like so locked in on that i i have this weird feeling this is like the one time i'm agreeing with you oh i i do think jj will have a pretty good game because i think that there's there's a reason here's the reason he he thrives i think on like pressure and like being in the big stage and like all that stuff and i think that basically same person we also will like jim's gonna just let him do his thing for the first time like in a long time since like the hawaii game it feels like it feels like why i'll let you finish but then i'll go back to that wow thank you that's very nice of you um the he i feel like

those like first couple games that he was a starter he had those like really bad like you know scramble throw it and like almost picked off or fumble or whatever else since then they've really tried to limit him but i think now it's like you got nothing to lose right you got absolutely nothing to lose so i think for the first time it's going to be like hey jj go do your fucking thing and that so this is the tie into my conspiracy theory here so everybody's saying like you know back beginning of the season we saw jj making big plays and against hawaii and all this and then when he once he won the starting role you said he's kind of been like what do you

say tamed or like on a leash or something along those lines and again back to my conspiracy theory i think harbaugh kept him on a leash because he knew that we wouldn't we don't want to show our hand to ohio state about what this kid can actually do this like i'm i'm so fucking bought in on this they are just like we know we can run the ball and that's how we win games and when we need jj to make a throw here or there like we'll have them do it but they've kept them on a leash all season because they knew they wouldn't need them and it's better to hide your hand and bring it out when you need it against ohio state and then they don't they don't know what's going to hit them i think jj's gonna have a huge fucking

game and somebody said something about Illinois. Like, why wouldn't he try to, like, you know, get them going then so we can win that game? Because that game didn't fucking matter. All you need to do is beat Ohio State. I still disagree with you so much with that. No, dude. I am so fucking, like, I'm so bought in on this.

Like, this is going to happen. And if I'm an idiot and it doesn't happen, I'll wear that because that's whatever. But I have convinced myself that this is a real thing. I have convinced myself that this is very fucking real and it's going to happen. I think the thing with Ohio State is I don't want to get in a shootout kind of mode against them. And so I think the whole reason we run the ball is that's how you beat ohio state you control the clock you run the ball um and you use play action pass so i think we'll see more play action pass from jj you might see him do more like rollout passes and things like that

but i don't think you're going to see him have you know 58 passing attempts or something like that god i hope not we will well you might name 100 to 150 or something like that. I hope not. We will name 100 to 50 or something like that. I mean, you remember how Ohio State played Dwayne Haskins? Literally every snap was a passing play. We're not going to do that with JJ, even though I think he has that skill set. Also, conspiracy theory, maybe we do. Especially what if Blake and Dono are out and we can't run the ball. Maybe you have to pass the ball.

I just think Jim's so stubborn he'll be like, this is our DNA. I'm telling you, man. I just think like – He doesn't want that against Ohio State, not this year. Even – okay, if we have to throw it 40 times, I promise you we'll lose. Ohio State throws 40 times every – We don't want to do that. We don't do that.

So they haven't proven to me that, like, that's what our team does. You know what I'm saying? It's all part of the plan, man. Our team runs the ball. They want you thinking like this, dude. They're directing the narrative. Too much fake news. Dude, man.

You see what they want you to see. You really are wearing a tinfoil hat right now. I'm all in on this. This is what's getting me through the week. This is what's getting me through the week. I am fully in on this. That is what's happening. It's a genius.

I'm going to tell you that the Illinois game 1,000% mattered. 1,000% mattered yes and if i'm gonna go back and i'll i'm gonna tell you that the illinois game 1 000 percent mattered 1 000 percent mattered because why because if we even if we lose we still have a chance at making the college football playoff now with one loss because we won that they've already got two loss lsu up at number five. I'm just telling you, if we lose that game, then you're completely out of there. Then you got USC who's going to win the Pac-12. I mean – You're being dumb.

This is like I'm putting my foot down at you being dumb right now. I'm just saying, man. Go big or go home. Games matter. Winning games matter. Winning games do matter. But what I'm saying is the reason the Illinois game would not matter is if you lose that and you beat Ohio State,

go Big Ten championship game, you're going to the college football playoff. It's just a fact. I agree with you, but then you have to win that Ohio State game. Exactly. It shouldn't be an option. I mean, I think you still do have to win that Ohio State game to make it to the playoff. Otherwise, they're going to talk about the strength of schedule.

Yeah, they already have it in for us. The non-conference sucked. Yeah, every time they put a good team. Except for the fact, here's the thing, is you have a lot of variables. You've got TCU, who still has to win both their next two games. Who do they have? Don't they have a cake schedule the rest of the way? Yes, they're in the middle.

Exactly, yeah. But you've got a lot of teams that still need to to win games so anyways whatever that game is over i'm i just wanted to point out how dumb you are so um saturday really hoping for a big game from jj i'm not saying, I'm talking about just the Illinois game. I agree with you to the fact that I think J.J. will have, like, one of his bigger games because you do – like, no matter what, you do have to score points. Yeah. Like, let's think about last year's game.

Like, they still threw for, like, almost 400 yards and scored 27, right? Which like 27 was like one of their season lows last year, you know? So you're still going to have to score. Like even if, if Michigan plays defensively as well as they did last year, you got to put up with score 40. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, but also it's interesting. I don't know what, if it's PFF or what stat site it's like michigan

or like one and two in defensive efficiency efficiency or something oh we're very nice yeah i know michigan's good but i didn't realize ohio state was that good oh defensively yeah they have uh so they jim knowles got hired as their new D coordinator, and they have tremendously improved. Their pass game is still not unbelievable, but their run game has tremendously improved. I heard that the Ohio State secondary is probably the weakest unit in their defense, but their linebacker core has improved a lot. I can't think of the guys' names.

I think like Steel Chambers is some guy, another guy. Well, they have a JT dude that's unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah. So they got some guys. I mean, listen, it's not like they don't have talent. It was just last year. Honestly, our offensive scheme put their linebackers in a freaking hurt.

Like, they had no idea what to do. So, if we can do that type of thing again, you know, I think our O-line just opened up giant holes. And then it was one-on-one for Haskins and Corum, and that's all it took between them and the linebackers. So if we can do that again, like, that's huge. But I just, you know, I think that you're going to have to – think about what we did last year. Like, you had to have an unbelievable game from Aidan Hutchinson

and David Ajabo, especially in the red zone. We somehow stopped them. You want to know what they're – right now, let me pull it up because the guy that runs PFF just texted it to me yesterday. Oh. What a flex. Humble brag. Oh, yeah, you know the guy that runs actually pro football focus?

He said, Ohio State is ranked number one in the country in red zone scoring percentage. 50 out of 52 times they score. Oh, my gosh. Including field goals. Including field goals. 42 out of 52 of those are TDs. Yeah, sounds about right.

So, that's – I mean, that's the key. Last year, that was the key is they got to the red zone and we still – we held them to field goals. And then it's a completely different game. So, I mean, if they get inside the red zone, we're going to be – Got to lock up. Got to lock up. Dude, I mean, Jesse Venter, I fucking love him.

I love him. Illinois scored points last week but their their qb was throwing dots and they're running back is fucking insane that is one thing too i don't want to be down at half versus high like i want to and if we are like positive vibes only we're a second half team second half team i only want to be down by a field goal. I don't want to be 28-7 at halftime. That's just difficult. I'd be down to be down 35-32 at half. Yeah. That would be a wild score at halftime.

That would be a fun game. I don't think we do not want that track race, dude. No, we don't. I'm saying it could be fun for the first half. Well, it'd be a very exciting game, that's for sure. But I don't i'm saying it could be fun for the first half well it'd be a very exciting game that's for sure but i don't think we feel like i want to win like 14-7 dude if that was because like if it's 35-32 at halftime like i don't think my heart can handle another half all that adrenaline you're feeling you're like oh shit dude oh my gosh let's go so i i okay let's talk about this for just a second then i'm gonna go back to some stats

they sell beer there i'm i might as well take out another loan for the beer i'm gonna buy yeah might need to it's gonna be four at a time i don't even know if they're allowing that oh are you gonna get um yingling oh i might have to get it probably have it down there i'm sure they do it's it's like yingling is like bigger than bud light in ohio right they should just ship all that uh budweiser from the world cup to columbus oh my god yeah um all right so that going to be an issue probably. Also, we need to figure out how to freaking cover Marvin Harrison. So this is the stat. Marvin Harrison versus single coverage this year is first in catches,

first in yards, first in touchdowns, first in catches for a first down, and first in catches for 15-plus yards. Yeah. I think we should double him. I think we should double him. I think we should double him. Is Juman back? Has he been back? Yeah. He's good?

He's ready? Yeah. Him and Will split time in that Illinois game. We'll just put Rod on set. Hell, yeah. Yeah, put a spot on him or something. It's over. What?

Dude, I mean, I like our secondary. I feel, you know – Oh, hell, yeah. If anybody's going to stop – i like our secondary i feel you know hell yeah if anybody's like our secondary i mean the big deal like we played incredible last year against their uh receivers we just gotta you gotta keep them in front of you you you like you just can't get burnt like well that's where so kayla and i were having a conversation yeah i think earlier this morning yeah um how did it get brought up well we were watching a little bit of that Illinois game.

Oh, yeah, yeah. And we were just watching, and I was pointing out, like, I thought there was a little bit of softer coverage. And my thing, you know, I was talking to someone who used to play DB, and he was saying, like, you know, when you're playing some of these Ohio State guys, you probably want to be a little closer to the line, jam them at the line of scrimmage.

Yeah, yeah. Because if you leave that much room, guys at Ohio State have a lot of speed. They're really athletic. They're just going to run a slant on you, short pass. Now you're in space. And this is where I disagreed with Caelan on this. Because if you're pressing those receivers, they're also really good at creating separation off the line.

And then all of a sudden, you you try to jam them and they're behind you that's where it worries me like i'd rather play softer coverage keep in front of you and yeah but i think what they're what they're so good at scheme wise with ryan day and brian heartline is yak and like getting guys into space across the middle where then like they can run for days after they get the ball yeah what were you thinking of yak i was like like smack yakking what about smack we're talking about um yeah um okay yeah i hear you the other piece to our defense this is so obvious obviously but like obviously i mean it's it's so obvious obviously that was

the dumbest thing i've ever said um we have to be able to get to the quarterback and get to cj stroud like we the last thing we can do is allow him to stay out there forever mike mo any update on mike mo is he playing is he hurt going on? Mike Moe will be playing. Fuck yeah. That's big news. That was the other thing we were talking about this morning. We've got to run some stunts. Defensive line to get to the quarterback. I feel like we don't see that a lot.

What we absolutely need to do is put pressure on C.J. Stroud. I agree with you, but it needs to be stunts with just down linemen. We can't be second-year linebackers because that's what they infiltrate. No, no, no. Yeah, it's just the down linemen. Maybe get a stunt on the interior guys and then mix something. Just mix it up a little bit. Get their guards and tackles just off balance.

What I am excited for is – I think that they're obviously going to score. Like, we need to be able to come back from that. But I'm excited to see what Minter is able to do in adjustments. That's Jesse Minter. I think he'll be able to adjust so that we're containing, you know, the guys that they're doing. So I think, Kal Kalen to go back to

your like halftime thing I think there's two really big moments in this game that'll determine what happens it's the first two drives when you know each team has the ball once right like if they go down and score and if we get stopped that that's going to be tough. But if like, if we go yard for yard with them and go, then, you know, that's different. And then also like last year we stopped them coming out of the, the second half and, and then we went down and Blake scored. And it was just like, I mean, it changes everything in terms of momentum. All right.

Last question. You go. Bets. Any bets that we should be taking on this game? I got to look those up. I'm taking over on J.J. everything. J.J. everything over Michigan money line. Okay. Hammer Michigan money line. And then J.J. over everything. First everything over Michigan Moneyline. Okay, hammer Michigan Moneyline.

And then JJ over everything. First touchdown scorer, JJ. Is it still at 7.5? Yes. 7.5. Over under is 56.5. Over. Ooh, okay.

Yeah, oh, I see. To score three touchdowns. Over. Wait, I see. To score three touchdowns. Over. Wait, who? Michigan? JJ. I don't even think you can pick JJ. Hammer it.

Blake Corum. Ronnie Bell. Plus 10,000. Wow. I'm not taking it. There's only like three Michigan. I would love for Ronnie to have a day. Me too, man.

Fuck. It's his last game. Regular season game at least, right? Yeah. There's a lot of guys that I would love to know. Over. Over. Oh, yeah.

Love that. JJ, over everything. Clear passing yards. Over. I don't like this because Jack has literally never won bets in his life so we talk about i have sometimes i win no i'm bad i never all the time that gets in the hall of fame talking baseball i've never heard you all right let's see. Hit it. Let's see these odds. If I hit this bet. Put a dollar on it just for fun.

I do have a dollar free bet. There you go. JJ over Michigan Moneyline. JJ. Okay, JJ over. Everything. Everything you can fucking hit it. Michigan Moneyline. Three TDs. It's not that good. It's only nine bucks. I bet a dollar. Because they know.

They know something that I know. That's what that good. It's only nine bucks. I bet a dollar because they know they know something that I know. That's what it is. I'm telling you. You flip me back to being nervous again, because you're so confident and you're just usually not correct about like anything. Hey, I remember the game last year i was saying it this is the year shout out tnd you and you're like shut the fuck up and i'm like dude this is the year this is the year like shut up well because you were sitting there so much better you were literally about to jinx it sitting beside me in this game. I don't jinx. Knock on wood.

I'm going to kill you. So what do we got? A dollar? What's the payout if you win? 13 bucks now. Hey, okay. Real quick, let's talk about the weather. It's supposed to be like 50 and sunny. I thought it was supposed to rain. No.

No more rain? It's looking as clear as day. I love it. You know what the for the game money line and over all right perfect yeah we're golden we're straight sounds like a great day to run the ball then yeah run the ball make some money easy to see for an interception it's supposed to rain it's supposed to rain like friday a bit. Okay. Saturday, it's 0% precipitation all day long. Hey, and as far as injuries for Michigan, I'm cool with that. I'm cool with no rain. All right.

Yeah, what happened? It was showing like rain. It was showing snow. We got too excited. 10-day forecast is never accurate. We should have known. We should have known. Next day.

Probably going to fucking sell and be 30. Spin zone here. I'm actually, we're probably going to need to throw the ball some because they're going to sell out on the run. I think it helps us. Let's go. Oh, I love this. I wish

you could move the line. For JJ Rushing, I'd say over 50. I mean, you could just bet $20,000 on that. I don't have that, though. Nate, if you're listening and you want to donate to the bet, you're my Pepsi man. Yeah. Oh, gosh.

All right. Should we just do predictions predictions what should we do here um blue by 90 that's what i'm saying that's what i'm staying with positive vibes only if i have to give an actual prediction that i think the final score of the game will be i'd say similar to the 06 game 42 39 we39, we're going to flip it. Michigan's going to win. That would be wild. I do want to, like, obviously I want to win the game,

but I want it to be an all-timer, like, competitive game. Dial the hotline. Dial the hotline. I want it to be an all-timer competitive game. I want it to be, all-timer competitive game. I want it to be like – I think that what I want is like I want us in Ohio State to show the world that like we're both like right there elite, you know, because otherwise I think if it doesn't happen,

then all of a sudden everyone's like, you know, oh, it's still the Big Ten. They still stink. They're not the SEC, blah, blah, blah. Like I want this to be like two huge, you know, Goliaths battling it out. All right, I'm going to have to tell Tyler to pull that clip and put some Rocky theme music over it, maybe get some like Rocky training montages in the back. I see like a bloodbath. put some rocky theme music over it maybe get some like rocky training montages in the back like i

see like a bloodbath like i want to see cj stroud get sacked like 15 times you know guys getting cracked in the backfield i wish they had like an all grass field at ohio state as once like turf in the helmet just like people bleeding everywhere that that'd be a nice little montage googling for some you know pump up hype up videos or something for this watch rocky dude oh i'm rocky five training montage you know what i was watching rocky three training montage that made me hype for the two was uh jamis winston's florida state halftime speech where he's like we some dogs we got receivers we got a qb he's like, we some dogs. We got receivers. We got a QB. He's going to toss that thing. I'm like, can we just give him that? My favorite one is with Ethan W.

Oh, my God. I'm not going to do it. That's my favorite JML speech. Dude. Speaking of JWs, is Jamison Williams playing today for the Lions? Do we know? I know he's practicing, right? Yeah, I think he was cleared to play today.

Wow. I saw that today was going to be like a Ford Field record for attendance. Yeah. I heard that. It's like best since I think it was like Monday night 2015 or something, 2012. When we were like 7-0 or 5 – when we started 5-0, I think it was. Yeah. Yeah.

I was there on Sunday for Bill think it was. I was there on Sunday for Bills-Browns. It was rocking. Bills fans are just insane. Did you see Brett there? I did see Brett. Was he wearing the chicken nugget hat?

Yes. Was he? Was he? The Bills was he it's uh yeah it's the bills the bills are like it's just built different there it's fun dude it was I know so I was

telling obviously I told you guys but when I went there I like what incredible atmosphere even just for like tailgate scouting like learning to really hone in on our craft here but like those people are just like fucking built different out in buffalo they're just a different breed a different it's only like five hours away like we should 100 do a trip out to buffalo

and like just like have an experience we need to for sure. I, like, I think I should live in, like, I should have been born in Buffalo. Like, I was born to be the jailer. Dude, literally, Buffalo, like, where their stadium is in Orchard Park, is like you're driving through downtown Milan. You're just getting out of downtown, and it looks like it's about to be just, like, nothing, and there's a football field and like two bars in the corner i'm like this is the most football city i've ever seen in my entire life built for built for football they just love football i'm on my fifth cinnamon roll right now started thanksgiving strong fuck dude

i'm gonna bust out that pumpkin pie. Oh, crush that. My boss's wife brought in like Costco pumpkin pies for me and our other guy that shares the office with us. And I was like, this is fucking Costco. I mean, it's the size of this table. It's huge. Shout out Costco for your big pies.

It's the size of a table. It's big. I mean, it's the size of my torso, at least. Bigger than that. You're too small. You're too ripped. More like the size of my torso. That big? That big.

Sorry, that was mean. I was waiting for it. There's no fat shaving here. As we're talking about food, let's do a quick just like top like what's your number one what's your number one let's do a snake draft should we do a snake draft we can do a full one right now i'd love to do a full one all right we'll do top five three rounds oh top five let's do top yeah let's do top five we can end after three if we start running Justin as the host, start us off.

We're doing Turkey Day Foods? Yep. I'm going to go against the grain here. My number one is ham. Honey baked ham. Correct. Yeah, ham is such an elite holiday food. It's so much more elite than turkey it's not oh so much better i'm i like that a lot actually that's a great pick you want to say something

she said ham's a good call okay uh for me i mean stuffing i can't go wrong with something man stuffing also a great option those are actually my top two um but a side that you have to have on thanksgiving thanksgiving day i don't this might not be a popular opinion canned cranberry sauce the best it's pretty good yeah dude. Why canned versus something else? I don't know. It's just the way it slides out of that can nice and slow. It's like a little gelatin piece. It's an aesthetic thing.

Yeah. If I know that it's real, it's not going to taste as good. I need that synthetic cranberry, and then it just plops on there. You're just kind of a disgusting human being all around. But, dude, no. You need something to moisten like the dry ass turkey that's why I'm a ham guy something to moisten the turkey

the stuffing give a little moistness to the stuffing um oh wait turkey sucks turkey's awful if it's not dark meat like a turkey leg is good but the white meat on a turkey is the driest

fucking thing in the world my mouth is the sahara desert when i eat white meat off turkey yeah white meat in general i'm just a dark meat guy give me some legs guys wings dark meat's good dark meat's the only way are you one of those people though that just like kind of mash their plate all together like you're just combining every what's that dry ass turkey yes if it's like good turkey like i'll eat them separate but if it's like dry i'm like all right where's the cranberry can just throw it on top get all mashed potatoes stuffing green bean casserole dry turkey i just imagine mash it all up it's like a famous bowl jack's like sitting at the kids table he's like got his hands out, like, mushing it all together.

Dude, I'll tell you what. My Uncle Jim used to have his own restaurant. Fucking fire chef. He used to make the most money Thanksgivings. He's, like, way up north now. But, dude, like, we'd always have the Lions game on Thanksgiving Day. Like, he'd just have everything fucking prepared, and it was just incredible. All right, i'm going

next all right sorry jack you got to go next because you're so cranberry sauce stuffing ham um gotta have some good mashed potatoes yeah like mashed potatoes that's what i want like authentic like i want the fucking skins in there throw a bunch of salt butter skins in never had some like homemade mashed potatoes you you skin the potatoes no dude if you don't skin them then you you boil them first you boil the potatoes first right so you get them nice and soft homemade mashed potatoes homemade mashed potatoes my he has I don't think he has no you boil the potatoes to soften them up and then you put them in a bowl

then you get your masher you mash them but you skin them first no dude you need the skin in there that skin is just going to be like you'll have mashed potatoes it's like a wrapper yeah

they're like croutons in a salad except they're mashed potatoes. It's like a wrapper. Yeah. That's what you want. They're like croutons in a salad. Except they're wet and plasticky. No, no, no, no, no. We have had subpar mashed potatoes compared to what you're talking about. So what you do... Okay, I might be saying this wrong. Maybe you do skin them.

And you might throw skins in the oven or something to dry them up. Okay, different mode. I think you probably have like... I'm going to figure out a famous...

I want Jack's famous mashed potatoes. Hey, I'm all for it. I'm going to create the greatest mashed potato recipe and then I'll have it ready by January 1 and we'll all do a taste test. Okay.

Still in the realm of potatoes, I always love the candied sweet potatoes. Candy yams? Next level. Sweet potatoes. Not yams. They're different. They're not the same. Are they not? Really?

No. I always thought they were the same. Maybe not. You kind of just unvalidated your entire mashed potato take with that. How? You just sound unknowledgeable

about Thanksgiving Day foods. Jack just shows up and eats. take with that. How? Well, you just sound unknowledgeable about Thanksgiving Day foods. Jack just shows up and eats. It's fine. I'm going to have a little potato. We'll be ready. Alright, here's mine. My second one.

Just a nice roll. Nice warm roll with butter on it. I mean, I could eat a thousand rolls yeah hawaiian rolls oh gotta be hawaiian rolls we do um we do they're not hawaiian they're hawaiian rolls of the way he's gotta go get one it's probably some white people shit oh no those aren't them. I don't know. My mom usually gets some very specific rolls from the bakery that are just incredible.

But I think in general, the key to a good roll is having it hot. Yeah, it's got to be warm. Warm, soft. And then the butter just melts onto it. Oh, man. There's nothing better. Warm, soft. And then the butter just melts. Oh, man. There's nothing better. Nothing better. Okay.

All right. Me again. Yep. Mine is going to be beer. Fuck. How did that make it to the third round? I mean, yeah. There's no way you're not having a beer

with your Thanksgiving dinner. It's fucking 10 a.m. We're already drinking. Thanksgiving is one of those all-day drinking days. We already worked out today, too. We were big fitness guys today. I love that. I didn't work out.

I've had six cinnamon rolls now. Hey, it's a workout for the adjustment system. Yeah, you're working out our mouth. It's going to be a workout for that toilet. Cinnamon roll curls. All right. Caleb, you're next. I'm surprised.

Making it to the third round. Mac and cheese, man. Buy your mac and cheese. I don't know. I don't like it soupy. I'm a Kraft mac and cheese, man. Buy your mac and cheese. I don't know. I don't like it soupy, right? I'm a Kraft mac and cheese guy. Oh, man. Like the Spongebob ones? The best. We gotta cut a

square out. Oh, man. The baked mac and cheese, that is a good move. Okay, I'm gonna say it. Turkey leg. Big old turkey leg. Like medieval style? Yeah. The ones that you get it like

we haven't said turkey yet and it's dark meat so turkey leg big old like uh festival style medieval type turkey leg that'd be money i feel like they used to maybe they still do it for the thanksgiving game they give them to like the mvp of the game i swear to god at least they used to i'll just find a clip of that. I'll have to tell Tyler to cut that up and find a clip. I think you got another one. Okay. Turkey leg. Let's go back into the drinking

realm. I'm going to say a nice little sip on, a little bourbon. Okay. I know. We talked about this last night. A nice little bourbon sip on. Maybe give me like a Traverse. A little bourbon. Okay. I know. We talked about this last night. A nice little bourbon to sip on. Maybe give me like a Traverse City XXX bourbon. Might have to go pick that up today. See if Total Wine's open.

Alright. Kaelin, back to you. Yeah, it's getting tough. The heavy hitters are out now. Kinda. It's like we're missing something still. I mean, you could go like Green Bean casserole. That's what I was thinking. I do like a good green bean casserole.

It's not my favorite. It's a good fourth rounder. Yeah. I'll take that one. Yeah. All right. Let's take the last pick of the draft. Last pick of the draft.

We're fading off. Right here? Right here? Yep. All right. Last pick of the draft is just going to be pie. Fuck. Good pick.

Great pick. I mean, I dominated this draft absolutely dominant you really did you absolutely crushed it wait okay what was your one two three four my one was ham yeah my two was rolls my three was beer and my four was pie that's literally a great plate that is a good plate fuck you're playing fucking chess while we're playing checkers over here, dude. You're seeing moves before they fucking happen. Here's my question. Here's my question for you guys is what pie are you going for?

Apple, pumpkin. What else we got? I mean, you could go like cherry. You could go a pecan is it is it pecan or pecan pecan no no i say pecan but i that's one of those things where i like feel like i'm gonna upset somebody like some people are named like uh um andrea or andrea i feel like that's like pecan, pecan. You know? But if you say it wrong, it's always the Andreas too.

It's Andrea. Yeah. Jesus Christ. I'm jingling. Imagine saying that. Here's a response to that. A good apple pie. I have a hard on oh yeah

that's a great thanksgiving day show yeah great thanksgiving day show yeah thanksgiving all right well um i'm glad that we could just like we could take my mind off of the game for you know a good 15 minutes welcome there um but yeah when you do start drinking what are you going to drink today my first drink today is a good that's a good question um it probably will just be like a a light beer like a mcultra mcultra lime you know what i would i can't get away with it. Bloody Mary. That's always a great first drink of the day,

like holiday drink. I might keep it classy with some wine, too. You never know. A little red wine? Make sure you drink a Bordeaux. We got shits in a wine here. Pinky out. Kaelin has how many wine bottles do you have here?

Nine. Kaelin's got about 20 bottles of wine in his house. I mean, big wine guy. Love that. I'm only bringing one to Thanksgiving. Well, there may only be one left by the time you get back. That's also such an adult

thing to do is you just bring a bottle of wine wherever you go like yeah whether it's your like thanksgiving or you're just going over to a friend's house like i i think i need a great welcome yeah well i need to start i need to graduate to that because usually i like bring over a 24 pack of fun light like oh yeah but everybody loves you know everybody wants a beer. Right, exactly. You got to fill the beer fridge. It has to be open. So I feel like with the open 24-pack, one in your hand.

Exactly. It's an Alex Kinch move right there. Yeah. We got to invite him over today and see what he comes over with. He'll have 18 beers in an open 24-pack. Which also, I think that's a kitsch move because it's a college kid move and he just really hasn't grown up since then he's a man of efficiency that guy gotta give him his props he'll come fix it yeah dude fix plenty of my shit for free that's true all

right well let's uh let's get to saturday let's get a w let's go to freaking indie come on we need it i know i'm ready i need it more than i need air to breathe inches well place stay down there oh yeah we go down sure oh hell yeah i'm in i'm in all right for us you can follow us at blue by 90 oh my god i kind of fucked that up i did it i blanked that's okay try it again for us you can follow us at blue by 90 on twitter instagram facebook i blue by 90 podcast on youtube and blue by 90.com we appreciate you go blue beat ohio let's fucking go go blue baby go lions go kitty let's go happy thanksgiving happy thanksgiving happy thanksgiving