Blue By Ninety - IS MICHIGAN THE MOST DOMINANT TEAM IN FOOTBALL RIGHT NOW?

Episode Date: October 16, 2023

YES. AFTER WHOOPING INDIANA 52-7, THEY HAVE NOW PUT UP BACK TO BACK 50 BURGERS. RANK US NUMBER 1 YOU COWARDS. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the University of Michigan. Touchdown, Michigan! The beat of Michigan football! And they've caught extra pass. And it goes to the win! The three-pointer by Jordan Poole! Down the sideline! Peebles-Jones!
Starting point is 00:00:21 Touchdown, Wolverines! All right, welcome back to Blue by 90. I'm Justin, joined by Jack and Tanner. Kalen says he's going to join us later. What do you guys think about just, like, ignoring him completely when he hops on? I think that'd be funny. Let's do it. All right. That'd be great. Let's do it. All right. That'd be,
Starting point is 00:00:46 that'd be great. Let's give him the silent treatment. Like, uh, like, you know, after like a rookie home run and MLB or something. Anytime he tries to talk, we just keep talking.
Starting point is 00:00:56 We just keep talking over him. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. All right. Sounds good. Perfect. Good plan.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Um, it is October 15th and your Michigan Wolverines are still undefeated. So, turns out we're pretty good. I did not expect 52-7. 50-burger. In a shitty fucking day. Back to that. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:01:20 I mean, I saw Patrick Barron tweet, who does a lot of photography at Michigan, at the stadium and stuff. He tweeted a screenshot of the game when it was 7-7, four minutes left in the half. And he's like, this is a 52-7 game. Like, absolute absurdity. I mean, I'm not going to lie, boys. I was clenching a little bit up there. I was like, I don't know what's going on here.
Starting point is 00:01:38 And then eight straight scoring drives. Fucking stupid. They, uh, yeah, it, it was weird that the, the score turned out to be that. Cause I think if you, as a Michigan fan, if you turn it off at halftime, you're like,
Starting point is 00:01:53 Oh my God, we're going to win 21, seven or something like 14 to seven. I don't know. Um, but, uh, yeah,
Starting point is 00:02:01 we're pretty good at halftime adjustments. Uh, like, I mean, just adjustments in general. We're very good at halftime adjustments. I mean, just adjustments in general we're very good at, I think, especially on the defensive side of the ball. But to go from one to go from one
Starting point is 00:02:16 we had punt, punt, and then just never turn the ball over again. Dude, it was fucking wild. JJ looked good. Blake looked good. Colston looked real fucking good. AJ Barner had a nice little catch on the sideline.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Tuttle. Tuttle. Revenge game. Jack Tuttle is up there. Yeah. With, like, Game 6 Jordan. It's, like, his moniker's up there for sure. Was he wearing a Revenge Tour yesterday i didn't i didn't see but you can't confirm or deny i just like i had a
Starting point is 00:02:52 i had a little image go through my head like today when i was reading some comments of people like how happy are aj barner and jack tuttle like i just imagined them in the locker room just like thank god got the fuck out of there dude like it was like dapping up like hey man could have been on the other side of that so yeah they played uh both played well against their former teams uh i think it's great that we have tunnel like he's good he's not some slouch like he'll be back next year right you think i don't think he has any more eligibility does he not have a covid i don't know i still don't understand like i i can't calculate my math doesn't do the my brain doesn't do the math i'm pretty sure he was high school teammates in the same class with chris alave so i don't think he has any more eligibility
Starting point is 00:03:36 like that's i think he was a 2018 so this is his fifth sixth year i don't think he has any more yeah all right unless there's a medical in there somewhere which i doubt but i feel like sometimes And so this is his sixth year. I don't think he has anymore. Yeah. Unless there's a medical in there somewhere, which I doubt. I feel like sometimes there's those situations where guys just have, like, unlimited eligibility, essentially. Yeah, it seems like it. Joel. Joel had, like, fucking eight years. Brad. Joel and Brad were there for literally six, seven years.
Starting point is 00:04:02 I don't know. Amazing. A while. And Brad was like, I'm thinking about coming back. Everyone's like, you know, we love you. We love you more than everything. Maybe time for the next step. School in the NFL, dude.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Yeah, man. And then it's worked out well for him. He's making a lot more money. Yeah. Him and Moody, dude. Moody's like the best kicker in the NFL right now. Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:24 No. I mean, I think that i'll ask you guys a question though were you i mean in the moment we were obviously concerned about the first half like it was i i was i was worried because like honestly it wasn't like they had the one fluke play that actually led to their touchdown but like we they were playing with us i'd say it wasn't like they had the one fluke play that actually led to their touchdown but like we they were playing with us i'd say it wasn't just like total flukes like that's usually what i gauge if a team is really being upset or not or something like that like they played pretty well with us for the first half i would say yeah i think their defense looked good um in the first half or first quarter up
Starting point is 00:05:06 until like four minutes left in the um the first half uh but i don't know man i feel like with the teams that we've been able to enjoy the last couple years i'm just like it's they're gonna fucking come back and win i'm not worried about it yeah that's definitely true yeah i'm i'm a very emotional football watcher in the sense that – not externally all the time. Like, for the big games, yeah. But, like, internally I'm just, like, biting my fingernails a lot. Like, I just get nervous no matter what, like, who they're playing
Starting point is 00:05:35 because I just – you know, I think about the – I think we've talked about this, but I just think about the season through the lens of looking at the two big games on the schedule and how do we see Michigan stack up against Penn State and Ohio State. So in that sense, I'm always looking for style points and just looking for dominance. But after the first quarter, I want to say Michigan outgained them like 400 and something to like 86.
Starting point is 00:06:00 And they also – look, Indiana stinks. We talked about it. But they didn't have a new offensive coordinator, had a bye week, so they probably installed some things that were trying to go against what Michigan does and obviously had success for two drives, and then it was completely shut down. I mean, it was – I mean, I'm assuming a majority of those yards probably came in the fourth quarter on their – you know,
Starting point is 00:06:20 where they tried to drive down and score as Tom Allen's trying to get a touchdown with 13 seconds left. Like, what did – Tom Allen's trying to get a touchdown with 13 seconds left. Like, Tom Allen's just a tool in general, so I'm not surprised. He's got – Tom Allen has Brady Hoke vibes of just clapping no matter what. He's just always clapping on the sidelines. His team is – like, you look at the scoreboard and it's 52-7, and he's out there just like, good job. You know, go get him.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Go get him. All right, good work. Like, come on, man. Yeah. Yeah.. Go get him. All right. Good work. Come on, man. Yeah. Yeah. I love Tom Allen. He's an interesting cat.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I fucking love him. That was so perfect. Me and Andrew just shitting on him. And Jack been like, I don't know. I kind of like him. Kind of like this guy's vibes. Yeah. Because, what, 2020, I thought Indiana was back, man.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Well, they had a good year in 19. You know, they went to a bowl. And I don't know if they got – they had eight or nine wins, and then, you know, 2020. 2020 there is 6-1. I don't remember 2020 at all, to be honest. The only reason I know that is because I heard it on the broadcast of the game yesterday. Well, they had Pettis. He was really good.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Now he's, like, lighting it up in Washington. That was an awesome game, by the way. It was an awesome game. Favored. I mean, like hiding it up in Washington. That was an awesome game, by the way. It was an awesome game. He's favored. I mean, essentially he's favored to a point where you can't even double your money if he wins the Heisman. Yeah, he's minus 140. JJ's tied for second in Heisman odds with Drake Mack. You know what?
Starting point is 00:07:38 That game was the mid-off. For the Oklahoma dude. I think it's maybe both of them, honestly. I think it's Dylan Gabriel. I don't know. I think Dylan Gabriel is plus 800 and then JJ is plus 1,000. I saw everybody behind Pennix was plus 1,000 today, but
Starting point is 00:07:53 it's different sportsbooks. You can probably get whatever number. You were right though. USC Notre Dame is and was the mid-off. Whoever in the comments was mad about that. Thank you. Notre Dame had 250 yards of total offense. That's indomitable. was the mid-off uh whoever in the comments was mad about that thank you us like notre dame had 250 yards of total offense i mean that's in really dominating yeah yeah because williams set him up with short field like three times one of them was that he was out at the two yard line williams
Starting point is 00:08:15 stunk it up that was an awful performance from him yeah yeah i mean i listen I said it, and I don't know who it was. I forget in the YouTube comments, but that wasn't me. I think USC stinks, and I think Notre Dame is not good either. I think they're both solid. But, like, dude, I mean, I don't think USC. I think USC and Notre Dame would not stand a chance in the top of the Big Ten right now with Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State. That's my opinion.
Starting point is 00:08:52 You know, Ohio State did beat Notre Dame, though. I know. Yeah, but Ohio State played the worst game ever against them. And I think Ohio State's kind of mid, too, if I'm being honest. Somebody screenshot this and come back to me in November, possibly. But, you know, whatever. It was Andrew Eldridge, 1236. Michigan fan here.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Can't listen to a college football podcast where guys refer to the games such as Notre Dame, USC as mid. It's so cringe. I love how that was the cringe moment and now that I was talking about shitting pants. People love that part of it. He was like, I was talking about shitting pants. I love that. He was like, I'm in.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And then he was all the way out. I've got a good, I've got a good new comment from yesterday. Uh, Dr. You die sing. What is the show about? I thought it was supposed to,
Starting point is 00:09:38 I think you meant to say Michigan football, which is why I turned tuned in horrible. There's not much to talk. Do you want us to break down Michigan demolishing poor Big Ten West teams in Indiana? I don't know what we're supposed to do. And you know what? We have an analytical football show.
Starting point is 00:09:56 If you'd like to tune in, talk to me by the numbers. That's what we do. Here we're going to talk about shitting our pants. There we're going to talk about PFF and analytics. Yeah. Absolutely. You know what? We've talked about a lot of football
Starting point is 00:10:11 on this podcast. It was simply we had seven straight weeks of bad football teams to talk about, and we were at our limit. We just couldn't. It was over. I'm sorry. If you like bad football teams, boy, do I have the team for you this Saturday night in East Lansing, Michigan.
Starting point is 00:10:31 That was perfect. I mean, fuck, what do you think the score is going to be? It's a 24-point spread. We called that, didn't we? We were walking out of the stadium and we were like, 24 and a half sounds right. And I think that, hey, nothing bad has ever happened when Michigan has been favored by over 20 against Michigan State.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I mean, I can't think of anything. I'm not smart enough to know what you're referring to, but I believe it must be something in recent history. Something that you blacked out in your memory like the entire year that's what i did yeah but that year didn't happen we got 2020 just yes that's a mickey mouse year let's just be yeah yeah very mickey mouse year can't count it um but uh no i mean i thought that michigan looked really really good really fucking half and like i mean these stats from jj and jack tunnel combined are insane they're combined they are 19 for 22
Starting point is 00:11:32 which also is hilarious that we scored 52 points again with jj not even throwing it 20 times yeah he was well he started 0 of 2 and then would have been what? He would have been 14 of 15 the rest of the way. And that was basically all just the second – it was like – all the damage he did yesterday was basically like the second quarter and then like half of the third quarter.
Starting point is 00:11:58 So like 23 minutes of game time puts up two 23 touchdowns. Also, where the hell did ben hall come from ben hall's the goat i love him what a beauty he's a stud i mean he should be fucking rb1 he seriously he looks like he's 28 and running back he's got the fucking turf tape on his arms yeah rb1 that's all it takes for me um he uh reminds me of who's the stewart guy that was on the panthers jonathan stewart i think he reminds me of jonathan stewart former oregon running back yeah yeah that's how he like his body build and how he runs that's how that's what he reminds me he showed really great vision and patience you know um so yesterday when i went to the game i was very high up at like
Starting point is 00:12:44 the 30 yard line. And then at halftime, it was miserable, by the way, it really did stink. Um, so I made my way down to where Justin was sitting and we were like 10 rows up. And so you could really see the field and like his, his long run where he like cut it to the left. Like you could just see the patience from him and just the vision and waiting for that hole to open up. And then he hit it, showed good bursts.
Starting point is 00:13:02 And, uh, you know, I think he's gonna be a player. I really do think he's gonna be a player i really do think he's gonna be really good um i think that i mean a lot of people are really excited about cole cabana in that class which i think cole cabana can fly he's probably not quite there yet physically though he's he's little um ben hall as a 19 yearold looks like he's 22. He looks like a vet, whether it be just from his body and, like you said, the vision and all that. So I think that Michigan's run game is going to continue. I mean, we're still going to just have the one-two punch of Cabana
Starting point is 00:13:38 and Ben Hall could be pretty damn good. And you've got? Kahlil Mullings. You've got Leon Franklin. You've got Dono next year. Maybe. Jordan Marshall. Jordan Marshall is the kid I'm going to say.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Like, you watch his film, it's like, oh, this kid's kind of like Blake. Like, his jump cut, very good vision, stays on his feet, really good balance. Like, he might be that dude coming in. And then Micah Capanna. How do you say his last name? The kid out of Bishop Norman in Vegas. He's a burner. Like – Joe Cabana? No. Micah,anna, how do you say his last name? The kid out of Bishop Norman in Vegas. He's a burner. No, Micah, I can't.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I couldn't tell you how to say his last name, but he's a three-ish star running back who committed second running back in the class next year. Kid's a burner, plays at one of the best schools in the country. They've got some dudes coming in. Yeah, we're in good shape. How about the run game too we had let's see one two three four guys that had over had nine rushes or more that's almost four guys in double digits
Starting point is 00:14:36 rushes um that's pretty good i mean we spread it evenly then i'll obviously played the whole fourth quarter. Ben Hall, Blake, Dono. Who was the fourth? Our man, JJ. Obviously. I was wondering if it was just running backs or not. No. I mean, JJ, I really love how we're using him in the running game. Except for
Starting point is 00:14:59 sometimes I'm like, sometimes I'm like, hey, man. I got a little nervous on a couple of those. I was like, don't, don't do that again. The team. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Yeah. I, I, you know, I like, I like teams having to account for it and he's so good at doing it. But I'm like, all right,
Starting point is 00:15:19 as soon as somebody comes near you slide, go down, do something. I know. Yeah. Yeah. The fake, the fake screen draw i think i stopped breathing for four seconds uh and then i was like watching him on the sideline because
Starting point is 00:15:32 again i moved up to be very close and like he was like jumping and celebrating i was like oh thank god but he was a little hobbly coming off he took a big hit also jj hey buddy you could slide it was like third 14 you're up 35 7 it's okay man you could you could slide. It was like third and 14. You're up 35-7. It's okay, man. You could slide. But he's a hockey player. He's a gamer, dude. Yeah. He is a gamer. He really, like, he is – no, he doesn't want to, like, go out, which I love that because there are some guys out there over the years
Starting point is 00:15:58 that are like, I'd much rather step out, you know what I mean? But he is not afraid. He's not CJ Stroud. CJ Stroud is killing it in the nfl right now incredible talent for sure but like in all serious there is a very real difference between jj mccarthy and cj stroud from a mental capacity i think where jj is totally fine with taking that extra hit and cj Child's like, I'm good. And I think that changes things.
Starting point is 00:16:28 I'm being serious. I'm not even trolling right now. I feel like you're trolling, but I'm not. I love it. I love it. I want to stir up some controversy in the comments again. I know. Am I wrong? Would you say CJ Child is mid?
Starting point is 00:16:45 No. I'll tell Stroud is mid? No. I'll tell you who is mid. Penn State's offense. They woke up on UMass, dude. They got a powerhouse over there. It might be the worst team in FBS, unfortunately, for Don Brown. Yeah. They also were going for it.
Starting point is 00:17:02 UMass had like 25 yards of total offense or 35-0. They went for it on Penn State's side of the field. I was like, all right, come on, James. He's been about it this year, like the style points. He's like, I'm going to run this shit up. I don't care. I think he's overcompensating. For what?
Starting point is 00:17:16 Because his offense isn't that good, so he needs to overcompensate. Oh, I thought you were talking about something else. Well, I mean, maybe. Why does everything have to be sexual for you, Tanner? When has it ever been sexual? Okay're disgusting yeah come on somebody called i drive a ram truck so you think what does that mean sexual i guess talk about compensating no over compensation i don't know that i've ever made anything sexual but you know see this is why we need kaylin on here i wish he was fucking here man I don't know tone it down Tanner this is a family show
Starting point is 00:17:47 dude we talked about shit what do you think Kalen's doing right now Kalen I bet you he's probably working on the betting spread he's probably working on his model how'd the model do I wonder
Starting point is 00:18:03 if he were here he could tell us what do you think he wonder. If he were here, he could tell us. What do you think he would say if he was here? He would say... I feel like there's a voice in my ear telling me what he'd say. I'm just waiting for it. I'm all ears. I really want to know what you think. How was that impression
Starting point is 00:18:22 of Kalen? Did I sound just like him? Jesus, is that Frank Kalen? That was that was good jack i'm impressed by myself all right kaylin welcome we were i can't do this much longer yeah yeah what are we talking about here golden bachelor we're trying to give you the silent truth golden bachelor we're just like when kaylin comes on we're just gonna fucking pretend like he's not here. We missed you yesterday at the tailgate. Yeah, that was a tailgate. That's the real story. It was good. I had some beverages. Weather wasn't too bad.
Starting point is 00:18:51 The tents helped for sure. Still outdoors? Yep. The chelas takeout hit. Very much hit. Barbacoa and some pork carnitas. Fire.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I thought, okay, can I say something? The guy that was DJing, that he was like, at first he's an older guy. And I was on the tunes and he was like the owner of the house's guy. And he's like, all right, I'm going to hook it up, and I'll start playing music. And I was like, oh, man, I don't know about that. I don't know about that. And then he started playing. He was playing bangers.
Starting point is 00:19:33 He had some good tunes going. Oh, it's fucking awesome. I don't know what he had on his phone, but I was asking for a song. Yeah, he had like, I'd be like, hey, can we play X song? And he would click click it and then you could click from like apple music spotify soundcloud i'm like what is this he had it all in one place it was like a little it was like a virtual turntable on there he was like mixing like together i uh want to announce that i was undefeated at the beer bong again um i don't
Starting point is 00:20:02 know if anybody can take me off the throne thank this point. Thank God we didn't play flip cup for your sake though. Oh, I'm old. So flip cup, you know, you're literally the youngest person. Please stop. You know,
Starting point is 00:20:12 Hey, I want to just make a, I want to give a shout out to us, uh, for those that were at the game, because Justin, you were talking about how we're all old and soft and we didn't tailgate. We still tailgated,
Starting point is 00:20:21 just not a normal one. Right. We made it longer than any other student, any student at the game. They all were gone. We were walking out, and they had all left. So they're soft. And I did more fireball shots in the stadium than them.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Dude, it was funny. One of the girls at the State Liberty tailgate, one of my coworkers, she was like, I just want to make a point that somebody from your guys tailgate stole our firewall i watched that happen i will spend 12 for that firewall yeah i did i did go over there i was sure it was like give me that firewall i was like oh yeah we got some over here grab it i want to add this to justin your dad like when i came down and like every time that i saw him after being away for like three minutes was like hey aren't you the guy on bleacher report and i was like yeah dude he did it like 12 times it was unbelievable my dad usually once he finds one good joke he really hammers it all yeah yeah and then your
Starting point is 00:21:21 mom and then your mom was telling she was talking to me and claudia and she's like yeah you guys are so good on bleacher report and she's like, yeah, you guys are so good on Bleacher Report. And she's like, it's very funny to see the contrast between that and you guys talking about crapping your pants on the normal pod. And I was like, yeah, that's fair. We can do both. Maybe we can talk. I don't think we can talk about that on Bleacher Report.
Starting point is 00:21:35 I don't know if that's true. No, I don't think so. Find you a man that can do both, though. Come on. You got to start pushing it, Tanner. Get on Bleacher Report, you know. Oh, dude, you should see where you get the comments. We just start going after Buckeye and Penn State fans.
Starting point is 00:21:51 On Bleacher Report, we definitely get fans of other teams in there more, and it is very fun to troll because they can't possibly understand that we're trolling. That is the best part about like being up to oh in the last two games of the rivalry is like when you're on the end of when you're on the losing end of the rivalry you're just so angry all the time and like we on the winning end we can joke around we can like you know poke fun and do all this and at the of the day, you can't really talk shit if you're Ohio State because we just say 45.
Starting point is 00:22:28 We set the score. Scoreboard. Yeah, exactly. Dude, if we win this year, we're going to break their brain. When we win this year, their brain, they're going to be completely broken. I mean, it is going to be incredible when that moment happens because, I mean, they're going to be incredible when that moment happens because the, I mean,
Starting point is 00:22:46 they're going to be trying to get Ryan day. Like it's going to be a lane Kiffin, leave him on the tarmac situation in like Alabama. I hope that Jim Harbaugh pulls like an old one out of his hat and like shakes Ryan day's hand way too hard and like runs off the field. Yeah. Does the sports action. Yes,
Starting point is 00:23:05 please. What's your deal please oh my god that's a little smack on the back yeah oh my god um all right let's uh let's go around the uh the big 10 a little bit talk about some not so great teams um let's see which teams in which games because there were some not so great games that i was watching the whole time also i want to just make this point before you get to the the big stuff because i don't want to interrupt you but i don't know if you guys all do you guys all have youtube tv yeah yeah the multi-view is great but the more like that yes and it's great but dude yesterday i can't remember what games i had on but i had i had like washington oregon iowa wisconsin um and then like south carolina
Starting point is 00:23:53 florida or something i can't remember there's like three three solid games and then i had bethune cookman and texas southern and i was like and like i went to youtube tv's like support page and they're like we curate it and'm like, who the fuck curates it? Can you get a college football fan to do this, please? It's just wild. There was decent games on at that time, too, right? I know. Yeah, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:24:15 I don't know what. I think Bookman sounds like you just read a name out of the yellow pages or something. They're an HBCU in Miami. Yeah, Demetrius Sims, who played at Huron. Baseball out there. Shortstop went to BCU. Does that not sound like a law firm, though? Right.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Oh, absolutely. Bethune, Cookman, and Sons. Bethune, Cookman, and Cookman. Yeah. Well, first one I got here is Iowa-Wisconsin, which was the ugliest Big Ten West game of all time. The fact that Iowa has a legitimate chance to go 11-1 is the most sickening thing I've ever experienced in my life.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Just looking at the play-by-play is the most sickening thing I've ever experienced in my life. Just looking at the play, my play is hilarious. Just downs, punts, downs. 15-6. 37 passing yards. 6 of 14 for 37 yards. Oh, my God. With negative 18 rushing yards for the quarterback. So, he attributed 19 total positive yards of offense in a win.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Oh my god. Did you know that I can't remember if it was Cade's last game or if it was the last game but they had six completed passes and five of them were to Eric Hall. And he got hurt. And then he got hurt.
Starting point is 00:25:41 They don't have Luke Lachey. They don't have Eric Hall. Obviously Cade's out. It's crazy though. They're more than likely toachey. They don't have Eric Hall. Obviously, Cade's out. It's crazy, though. They're more than likely to at least win nine games. I mean, I'm sure they will trip up somewhere, I have a feeling. Against who? Those teams are – I know they're not good, so maybe they will trip up. But, like, Northwestern, Minnesota, Nebraska,
Starting point is 00:25:59 like all those teams that they play are so bad. Dude, the rest of their schedule is fucking Cade. That's what I'm saying. They could definitely go 11-11. What is it? What is it? List it off. Yeah, Minnesota, Northwestern, Rutgers, Illinois, Nebraska.
Starting point is 00:26:14 I mean, Rutgers is the best chance to win. Dude, this schedule might be the weakest they've won all of college football. Are they going to – they're nowhere near the – they can't be anywhere near the 25 points per game, right? No. No. They have a shutout. So that means he's fired, correct, if he doesn't get there?
Starting point is 00:26:35 Well, he went 11-1 though. Kirk's like, well, hey, I mean, results speak for themselves. That is – oh, my God. I hope that that's the case because that will be amazing if they try to, like, say, well, you know, they're in big – all these Big Ten West teams are in huge trouble next year with the conference realignment. Like, what are we going to?
Starting point is 00:27:03 Back to leaders and legends or what i don't know what i don't know if they've announced it yet no they haven't i don't know i don't even have a conference championship game at this point right with 18 teams do they just uh you almost have to have a playoff just for the big 10 that's what i'm saying like top four yeah i think though just into your point like not even just the big 10 but i think all of like the mid to low tier power five teams are just gonna become redundant yes and in the sec um the big 12 is interesting because there's like 47 teams in there now and i saw gonzaga's trying to get in there for basketball which basketball big 12 is gonna be unbelievable with like arizona kansas but like yeah i don't know
Starting point is 00:27:45 man like it's um feel bad for you know obviously like the oregon state washington state fans but then i think a lot of teams that even are coming over or uh existing in the big 10s like like northwestern like come on yeah i feel it's it's weird it's very weird. Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be interesting. By the way, upset alert, Illinois over Maryland. After Maryland had five straight really good weeks and then played tough against Ohio State, they outplayed Ohio State in the first half for real and then obviously just shot themselves in the foot quite a few times
Starting point is 00:28:24 and Ohio State turned it on but illinois is really bad that is a bad loss for maryland and they were right there too they took it down to the wire and then they ended up kicking the field goal to win the game so it was like yeah altmeyer had a big time drive had a nice run um but like i told you earlier i look at everything through the lens of like ohio state and again we don't do the transitive property but like i look at uh look at maryland ohio state put up 380 total yardage on them and then maryland put or iowa illinois jesus puts up uh 340 on maryland so you know it's not like some team names and i have no i did that's how my grandmother calls me me and my my cousins like she just goes
Starting point is 00:29:05 through eight names to get to the one she really means and so it must mean i'm getting older um cognitive isn't cognitive issues are showing up left and right but yeah i mean maryland is a uh this is maryland dude they go five and oh and then it's like oh they have done this like every year for the past like four years where you're like could could maryland be you know for real this year and then they just shit the bed um our friends down the road in east lansing um who we're going to travel to this upcoming weekend speaking of shitting the bed oh my god 20 up 24 6 at the end of the third quarter and just completely fall apart special themes fumbles all this stuff like i mean after honestly and i was like oh shit kate and hauser like looking pretty good maybe maybe this is you know a turning point for them and then it's like No no it's not At least they had
Starting point is 00:30:05 Colorado to blow even more Of a lead than they did True god damn Yeah I mean you look at MSU has 245 yards Hauser goes 18 and 29 for 133 two touchdowns but And no picks but I mean that's
Starting point is 00:30:22 Not very efficient Yeah that's we were Walking. Yeah, that's, we were walking out and I had no idea that it had even gotten close because we had just seen like 24 six, they were looking pretty dominant from the scores in the big house on the, on the big screen, come out, look at YouTube TV. And I'm like, Oh, Rutgers has the ball up like at the 50 yard line. No idea how it happened until we got home and watched the highlights,
Starting point is 00:30:42 but just, just a collapse. And now it's not even fun They don't want to engage They just Yeah But it was fun going through my 4U page on Twitter And just seeing daily MSU Just like If Caden Houser was a starter this team would be 5-1
Starting point is 00:31:00 It's like Gotta win the game he starts first Before we start talking like that. Yeah. He does seem like a much better option than Noah Kim. But I mean, I just think that's swaggy though.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Noah Kim is pretty swaggy. Yeah, for sure. Noah Kim still looks like a high school quarterback. He's so thin. Do they not have strength and conditioning? I don't understand. Somebody said this on Twitter and I agree with it, but they just look small. They don't look like a college football team.
Starting point is 00:31:31 No, just the whole team. They just look small and undersized. They look like Colorado. Yeah, kind of. I mean, honestly, Rutgers in that fourth quarter, I know there's the fumble returns, but they bullied them to win the that game in the end of it like just running the ball out stopping them on the fourth downs like it was
Starting point is 00:31:51 they truly did outmatch them so you're saying that we're just gonna absolutely manhandle them i mean i'd i'd be shocked at it i'd be shocked if we didn't i'd be shocked if we didn't what's the uh is there a prop bet on the first score of the game? Because I'm going to put my life savings on Michigan State scoring a touchdown first. Because they always do. Every year it seems like they do. And then Michigan will just roll the rest of the way. First touchdown score, Blake, parlay that with JJ two touchdowns
Starting point is 00:32:22 and a Kal-El Mullings anytime touchdown. Wow. Your goal. That's a goodil Mullings anytime touchdown. Wow. Your goal. That's a good. I'm retiring on that one. Ohio State beat up on Purdue. Purdue stinks. I mean.
Starting point is 00:32:35 So bad. They're really bad. Ohio State. This was one of the games this year for Ohio State. Outside of like Western Kentucky, this was the first time in a while that they looked like they could do whatever they want. I know it's Purdue, but they looked like what we think Ohio State should be. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:01 Yeah. I haven't seen any of it but statistically looked much better than any other recent games yeah um record pedigree game so we'll see they they have to uh they have to host penn state uh this week so that's the big game at noon uh this week perfect that'll be fun to watch during during the day i will be drinking ios ohio state's hosting penn state you said correct yep penn state goes to ohio state i like it um yeah let's see what else we got here penn state you're playing umass in the middle of the season i don't even want to talk talk about you yeah that's the best you SEC stuff right there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Talked about Iowa, Wisconsin. Let's see. I think that might be it for Big Ten games. Can I make one comment on Penn State, UMass, real quick, just to push my narrative further? Yeah. Drew Allard, 16-23, 162 yards, three touchdowns. So, not that great.
Starting point is 00:34:10 As I continue to push that narrative mid. Right now. Next year I think he'll be good. But right now, I don't see it. I think he's got incredible talent, but he is young. They don't push the ball downfield. Like, they just throw five. That's why I can't wait to watch.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Obviously, it's going to be an awesome game, but I can't wait to watch, and I'll be proven right or wrong, at least right now, with Penn State's offense because I just don't think their line is up to snuff. And I don't think Ohio State's D-line is dominant, but I think it's pretty good. So that's going to be a fun one to watch, man. I can't wait. The box score in that game was not crazy, which is very strange for 63-0. Yeah, they probably had a lot of short fields. Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:45 They only had one turnover for UMass, but it was, you know, Penn State put up 408 yards, 6.8 yards per play. Like, it's a good performance, but UMass is atrocious. They started the game with a fumble. It's like, Penn State, fraud team? I don't know. I've been saying it. I've been saying it since September.
Starting point is 00:35:06 James Franklin absolutely is a fraud. So, yes, they're a product of him. Georgia only beats Vandy 37-20, and they scored with like two minutes left to make that 37-20. Should Michigan be the number one team in the country? Yes. Absolutely. I think they are the one team in the country. Yes, absolutely. I think they are the best team at the moment.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I truly, again, not trolling, but I do think that Georgia is not quite as dominant as they were the past two years. Still an incredible football team. Don't get me wrong. They haven't lost a game in a long time. But I think that they're just not quite the same caliber as the last couple years.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I think if Michigan played them right now, Michigan would win that game. I think it would be close. I think, didn't Brock Bowers get hurt in this game too? Yeah. Did he? That was tough. I heard that.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Is he going to be out for a while? Yeah. Oh, no. He had an ankle sprain. Damn. So we definitely win. He had an ankle sprain. Damn. So we definitely win. We definitely win. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:09 No Brock Bowers. Well, if they don't have Brock Bowers, they'll probably lose Auburn. I think that they – Is he going to make a difference maker? There was quite a few people who voted – and eight people who voted for Michigan at number one instead of Georgia. I think Georgia lost quite a few votes and Michigan gained some. I think Michigan ended up with 12 AP number one votes.
Starting point is 00:36:32 So the gap is tightening. Here's an interesting matchup. What about Michigan versus Florida State? How do you think that would go? Michigan wins. I think Michigan is all around better than most of these other teams, if not all of them. Like Florida State, Jordan Travis is really, really good. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Keon Coleman is a freak show. Fucking monster. And thank God that he's not at Michigan State, honestly. But they can go to him four times a game, but Michigan, I think just at every position outside of those two, they're just all around better. So I think that for a lot of those teams, like a Florida State, Michigan, they wear them down and probably beat them in the end
Starting point is 00:37:23 because I think that they're a better coached, in my opinion, strength and conditioning. I think that they have better discipline, all that stuff. That's my opinion. I think it's just interesting because if they play a team that has a really efficient offense, and I feel like Michigan tends to not play super well on defense in the first
Starting point is 00:37:45 possession right so if you get down let's say 14 nothing how do you respond we just haven't seen michigan in that situation this year yeah i mean honestly let's be let's be real that was michigan's like their kryptonite the you know pre-2021 was once you get down, they have no way to like hurry up and come back. Now, even the last two years, Michigan hasn't been down ever that much really, so they haven't had to. I do think that like this offense seems like it has the ability way more than past years.
Starting point is 00:38:24 If they want to turn it on they can because jj can push the ball downfield roman super fast like i you know blake is good um i i think that that there is a bit of a difference in this offense compared to you know pre-2021 well i think you have the quarterback to go hurry up too if you need to right like he's probably able to call plays at the line. I have to assume they have that trust in him. I mean, they let him do so many things. And he's making a lot of checks with pressures, changing the protection, you know, hot routes.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Like, you see him pre-snap doing a lot of things that you don't always see Michigan quarterbacks and just college quarterbacks in general doing. But, Kalen, to your point, like, one of the things that I i had thought this season one of the things that they're not really tested on was just facing adversity like you mentioned and i will say look it's indiana but that first quarter man they were getting punched in the mouth and not great i have some there's there's some things that i'm a little bit concerned about when it comes to some of the o-line stuff like there was some really easy pressure from iu um but really like Michigan's ability to just – like JJ didn't try to play hero ball, didn't try to get it all back in one throw.
Starting point is 00:39:30 He continued to play really smart football. So I thought that was a really good sign that they were down and getting dominated, quite frankly. It was like 160 yards to negative eight or whatever the hell it was. But they responded to adversity. I think that's kind of on the checklist for me. I'm like, okay, if something goes wrong, they're not going to fold up. We know they're not, but it was just nice to to adversity like i think that's kind of on the checklist for me like okay like if something goes wrong they're not gonna fold up we know they're not but it was just nice to see them actually do it and then just beat the shit out of indiana like that poor those poor
Starting point is 00:39:52 hoosiers poor hoosiers poor hoosiers um i talked to junior colson today and he said that uh this was from a defensive standpoint their their best game all put together. They didn't have many missed assignments. The one-trick play, obviously. But from a defensive standpoint, they thought that this was their best game. So love that. I mean, I do think this defense is freaking good, man. I know we're not playing great competition,
Starting point is 00:40:24 but, man, they fly to the not playing great competition, but man, they fly to the ball. It is fun to watch. What are they giving up right now? They're giving up 6.7 points a game. They're born in the country. Top three are all in the Big Ten East. Ohio State's giving up 9.67.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Yeah. I think them and Penn State probably have the best defenses in the country. Iowa's up there. Ohio State's up there.67 so yeah um yeah i mean yeah i think them and ben state probably the best defenses in the country i was up there ohio state's up there i mean big 10 football baby big 10 football i love it i i do wonder like you know to your point caitlin on the offensive side of the ball you know if we look at it from the defensive side um you know what happens if they do give up two scores in the first quarter or something like that like how do they respond can they you know, what happens if they do give up two scores in the first quarter or something like that? Like, how do they respond? Can they, you know, sometimes when those teams are so good, when things go wrong, if, you know, let's say Penn State does it or Ohio State does it.
Starting point is 00:41:14 And then it's like, oh shit. Like, are, you know, you start kind of blaming each other. There's, you can easily go to that for teams that are not used to it. And when your mentality is we wear down the other team, like, you know, there has to be time for them to wear down. So in the first quarter, if for whatever reason they're just, you know, flying and all of a sudden it's 21-0 and it's only been like seven minutes, you go like, wait, what? So it takes, you know, we just got to see it.
Starting point is 00:41:42 We do got to see it. The game that we talked about right away, Oregon-Washington, that's one of the best games of the year so far. That was an awesome game. I can't wait to go sailgating next year. That's going to be so much fun. But I don't know. Did Pennix versus Bo Nix, did that, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:05 hold up to the like Heisman game that everyone's talking about I think it probably did to be honest I didn't get a chance to watch it I just saw the end of it but it's hard to think that anybody but Michael Penix is going to win the Heisman right now especially with Caleb Williams
Starting point is 00:42:21 just fucking fumble in the bag. Yeah. And, I mean, well, we'll see. Really, the big game for Washington left on the schedule is at USC. I still think, though, if they win that game, USC's defense is not good, so he's going to go out and put up stupid numbers. Oh, he'll have to put up video
Starting point is 00:42:45 game numbers yes for sure i mean home versus utah a week later is good than at oregon state oregon state's playing pretty well as well um they got a difficult stretch there um but i mean they definitely have a chance to go go undefeated for sure um they you know if we're that game was kind of for the conference. I think that they have a really good shot at being in the college football playoff. Also, shout out Jed Fish. Oregon smoked Washington State.
Starting point is 00:43:16 They're putting it together, I feel like. They played USC close. You're saying team names that you don't mean to be saying. Arizona. You said Oregon. Hey, man. Got that COVID brain, I think. team names that you don't mean to be saying? Arizona. You said Oregon. Oregon. Hey, man. What happened to Washington State? They were playing
Starting point is 00:43:31 really good football all year long. Chad Fish happened. Arizona is like... I know he has got Arizona moving in the right direction. They are a lot better. Two years ago, they were one of the worst teams in all of America, and now they're pretty solid.
Starting point is 00:43:50 I know they're still 4-3 in the Pac-12. That's pretty good, though, right? I mean, they played USC close last week. They should have beat USC. Should have, yeah. Should have beat USC. Their other losses at Mississippi State, that's not a bad loss at all, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:44:07 And then versus Washington. So, yeah, man. I mean, interesting. Interesting. I do think that Arizona will be back here pretty soon. What's – oh, wait. Are they Big 12 now? Yeah, them and Arizona State.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Utah, Colorado? I think they can compete in Big 12 now? Yeah, them and Arizona State. Utah, Colorado? I think they could compete in Big 12. That conference is going to be weird. They'll get a playoff spot, but I don't know how recruiting is going to go for those schools now that Texas and Oklahoma aren't in the Big 12. That's going to be interesting. Yeah, it will be.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Let's see. Last big game of the weekend is Notre Dame-USC. We talked about USC's defense just not being good. I don't know. They played well, though. I mean, they gave up 48 points, but they only gave up 250 yards. So a lot of that's on the offense and turnovers. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:45:00 I mean, dude, I know Caleb Williams is looked at as this generational quarterback, and i'm not the guy that's gonna like say that i know so much about football but like when i watch him his foot works weird like he throws off his back foot a lot like i just i don't know man and he just sails balls like i know he put up crazy stats last year crazy stats before last night and he still does but like i don't know man it just like he has he doesn't have good footwork like his drops are just like he seems flat-footed i don't know if you guys notice that when you're watching him but i don't know man everyone thinks he's a sure thing and i just i don't know sometimes i see it sometimes i don't it's i i agree with you i just think his arm is insanely good like he he at weird angles and off his back foot can throw it like a cannon.
Starting point is 00:45:49 I mean, I mean, it's just, he's really, really talented. I do think he still makes dumb mistakes as a, as somewhat of a veteran college football player. You know, he went in and I know, you know, going to Notre Dame at night is absolutely not a, an easy thing to do. So, you know, it's's tough. Yeah, man. Tanner to roll us through his QB camp. Yeah. I'll be slinging that thing at the tailgates.
Starting point is 00:46:13 I like it. Taylor Williams is a shitty football player. Didn't say that. By the way, shout out to North Peak Brewing, of course. Enjoyed a lot of Hale IPAs and Blue by 90 beers yesterday. And owner of North Peak came through, which was awesome.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Good to see him. And then shout out State and Liberty as well. Pairing up. I've got my State and Liberty hat on right now. Love it. I need one of those so bad. Those are sick. This is one of my favorite well. Pairing up. I've got my State and Liberty hat on right now. Love it. I need one of those so bad. Those are sick. This is one of my favorite hats.
Starting point is 00:46:49 I do love it. It's a nice hat. It's a good tailgate. I like it. Great tailgate. Great tailgate. It was a lot of fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I low-key love rain games because it's just like chaos. And everyone's just like in a happy, like happy stupid mood you know what i mean like it you know especially if we're winning it and it's not like super miserable which it did get there at the end of the game um but like people are just it's just like chaos and i love it i just want to mention that at the tailgate claudia looked at me and she's like how's it going and i was i just like looked at her and like, I've had some beverages. Then I just kept walking to wherever I was going next. Had a lot of free beverages.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Enjoyed myself. I went up to Jacqueline and she was like, I'm getting salami. I was like, I've never heard that, but I like it. That's going to be my vocabulary moving forward. I do like that. I like that. She said it a couple times this week. Maybe she was salami. I don't know. That like that. She said it a couple times this week. Yeah, maybe she was slumming.
Starting point is 00:47:45 I don't know. That's awesome. No, no way. No way. Oh, man. All right, well, we'll have another pod for you guys later this week. And, yeah, it's hate week. It's state week.
Starting point is 00:47:58 It's hate state week. It is. It's going to be fun talking shit all week on Twitter, especially because they have nothing to talk about. Maybe it's not going to be fun talking shit all week on Twitter, especially because they have nothing to talk about. Maybe it's not going to be funny. No, they will talk about our diplomas. It's show me your diplomas week. Setting the over-under on that in East Lansing to about 23.5,
Starting point is 00:48:16 just below the game line. Yeah, that is true. Yeah, we'll be in East Lansing tailgating this weekend, so that will be a good time. But we'll have another pod before that. Are we mazing out the woodshed? Last question. Last time we did that, it really burned us.
Starting point is 00:48:34 I'm wearing blue. Don Thomas texted me about it, saying that we should start raid the woodshed again, and I was like, it didn't work out well for us. Those ticket prices are falling fast. Pretty solid. That might be some opportunity for some maize and blue to get into Spartan Stadium. All right.
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