Blue By Ninety - JAWJA DAWGS, CORUM BACK, HARBAUGH, AND NEW MEMBERS OF THE BAND

Episode Date: January 11, 2023

The boys welcome on Brandon Justice and tanner Wooten as they join the Blue By 90 squad, we all recap the natty blowout of TCU, discuss Corum coming back to Mich and more.

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The three-pointer by Jordan Poole! Down the sideline! Peebles Jones! Touchdown, Wolverines! All right, welcome back to Blue by 90. I am Justin, joined by Jack and Kaitlin as always. And we have two very special guests that are joining us today. And they aren't going to be guests very much longer, if they are at all.

We've got Brandon Justice and Tanner Rutan with us. What? I feel at home already. It was just perfectly worded. I'm already moving in. I've already got my bed in there. We're here. I love it.

I love it. I'm in your basement, dog. I like it a lot. Yeah, you guys are – I mean, you definitely are just – you just texted us and you're like, hey, we're going to do a podcast and we're going to come on and you're going to announce us. That's pretty much how this came. Yeah, we did.

I mean, that's the only way to announce it, though's true that's ruthless aggression ruthless aggression i love it the uh the boys are are joining blue by 90 tanner boot and and brandon justice you guys have been um i feel like in the michigan media in and around like for quite some time now uh bouncing around doing different things writing podcasting streaminging, streaming, whatever it is. And now you're joining the boys here at BB90. We're pumped, man. We're very pumped. These are exciting times.

I don't know. I just think everything culturally fits. It's a really good mesh for everybody involved. And I feel like I can loosen up and and talk about it the way I want to talk about it Michigan that is yeah no I was lucky to have an opportunity to work in the media for a while but like super happy with everything that's going on right now and just thankful for the time I had doing it not like no animosity about not doing it anymore but like I still love doing it which is why I'm here so excited with you know you guys

are great guys and worked out and all right he one's got to carry the show uh rose getting a little too busy so you know let's go bags and mcdonald's uh brown jug sorry actually totally yeah too soon we've uh being relish i plan on being relish there's already a nice dog ketchup mustard we need a little relish that's who i plan on being and i'm sure my fellow to my right here tanner uh we can i'll take an onion man there's a lot of layers maybe you're the pickle slice we'll go i got a lot of layers bro like you know brandon and i came up in this in this space together and he kind of went traditional media route we were at amazing brew together i was doing like videos of Jabril Peppers and recruits

and, you know, just like helping Brandon get interviews. Like he would use my recruiting videos as like a little carrot for a recruit to like dangle it out. Like, hey, let me interview you. I'll get you a cool video. And they were not cool because I made them on my MacBook in like 10 minutes. But we came up and, you know, we kind up and he kind of went the traditional media route.

I work in the private sector in finance, but have always been around and I podcasted. Yeah, I made that sound really good. I plan on getting reprimanded on my job at some point from something I say. So let's just get it over with. But him and I came up together and we podcasted together. So this feels kind of natural for us to join together and announce it together. You know, Brandon

was at my wedding. Him and I have become really good friends over the last seven, eight years that we've been doing this. So it's really cool to kind of see it all come full circle and be able to still cover Michigan, but in definitely more of the, like you said, the cultural aspect where we're fans first and really just enjoy Michigan athletics, but being able to bring a nice unique spin to it with,

with our media professional history, whatever you want to call it. So yeah, I'm fired up, man. It's gonna be awesome. He he's such good friends with you that he left as soon as you started talking.

I know I started showering him in compliments and he went to go get chicken cordon bleu. I'm back though. I'm back right on time. I mean, if this doesn't scream – this is the kind of professionalism that you guys are going to bring to the table is two and a half minutes into the first podcast

we're going to eat a meal. I love it. I love it. Also, we somehow have them fooled that we are good guys. I don't know who told you that or what happened there, but I love that compliment. I don't know if you said good guys or good guys. I don't know who told you that or what happened there, but I love that compliment. I don't know if you said good guys or a good time. One of the two.

I'm not really sure what I said. Most of the time. I don't think before I speak though. So I feel like I'm one or the other. I'm never really both at the same time. I'm one of the other though. It's fair. So some might say neither.

Also some, a lot of people would actually say neither like actually i don't enjoy your presence at all to be honest um also i i want to apologize to the listeners because i cannot imagine that like our five male voices are easy to to distinguish between um as we're all talking over each other too. And we're all from Metro Detroit. So we have like the most vanilla voice. Well, I guess Tanner, you're not. You're up two hours south of Detroit.

So it's still the same dialect. Still the same. Like there's like no accent, bro. It's like the perfect English. It's kind of like King of the Hill. Like if it came back. Yeah. Wow.

That's true. That's true. Like a Midwest King of the hill um all right so i guess i mean should we talk let's talk some football real quick i i we're coming off of you know one of the the best uh michigan football seasons that we in this room have ever experienced, that's for sure. You know, none of us are over, what, 30? 30, I think? Yeah.

I'm the old man in the room. I'm 27. I'm the youngest by far. I'm definitely the old man in the room at 30. And so definitely, like, one of the best seasons that we've ever endured, especially, you know, since Blue by 90. I will say, people don't give us enough credit. Since we made Blue by 90, Michigan football is on the up and up. That's a good point.

That's true. I mean, take away 2020 because that season doesn't count. Well, it doesn't count. No, that's for sure. Nobody was there. No. Yeah. But Michigan's only lost, what, three games since we've been rolling,

not counting 2020? Exactly. Since we've had, like, a Twitter follower, like, we've been rolling not counting 2020 exactly since we've had like a twitter follower like we've been nothing but up more than like three twitter followers yes correct yeah we did have good vibes man that's what's what's happening we did have like three listeners to our podcast for a good chunk of time and it was just us three um It was me pressing listen on Spotify, Apple, Google, Podcasts, Anchor, every single thing. But, no, I mean, this season, obviously disappointing. We all watched the national championship last night too.

All right, I want to get your guys takes on this because i put it out there on twitter that how i was feeling of like at first i was like holy shit we should have beat this tcu team by a hundred and then after a little bit i was like that that could have been us that was getting walloped and i'm okay with not getting embarrassed on national TV too. Now, I think that we would have given them a much better game, but I do think Georgia decided to let the world know that they're still Georgia last night too. I'll tell you what, by the time I – so I fell asleep during the game. I took a little nap.

And a little positive vibes nap. I was hoping when I woke up to see what came back. I think I fell asleep after Duggan scored that touchdown. I woke up and I swear to God, you know when you wake up and you can't really see and it's blurry and you're just like

you can't really tell what's going on. I was like five at night. I couldn't even hear you said. You can't really tell what's going on. I'm at night. Oh, I'm what? I can't even hear you said. This is like, I mean, if you score, if you woke up when he scored that touchdown, that was in like the first five. No, no, no, no, no, no. I fell asleep.

I took my nap after that. All right. So when I woke up, when I woke up, I was expecting a closer game. And I think it was 58-7 at that point. And I was just like, holy shit. What the fuck did I miss? So I'm glad that I missed a lot of that game. Jack time-traveled.

Yeah, I guess fast-forward. I was just like, this game sucks. I'm just going to fast-forward, and I'll wake up and just see what happens at the end. Great way to watch a game. That was wild. I made a face just when you said we all watched it. I way to watch your game. That was wild. I made a face just when you said we all watched it. I didn't watch a single moment. I saw highlights on Twitter.

I think my favorite moment from last night was I saw the TCU-Barshall Twitter. It was like, we've been here before. And I'm like, dude, you're down 31 points to Georgia at halftime. This ain't the Alamo Bowl against Oregon, bro. You actually have not been there before. No, no.

In fact, you have not. I was with you, Justin, like I was like, damn, man, like I don't know how Michigan lost to this team. But I kind of did the same thing as Jack. Like I didn't take a nap. Like I just went to bed because it was late. But I woke up at like 5.30 and just like – I was like wondering what the score ended up being.

I saw 65-7. I was like, I the score would have been i saw 65 to 7 i was like i i didn't win that much on ncaa man like it was it was kind of nauseating um and also to see like ap voters putting ohio state number two is hilarious like did we just not watch that game like i saw it with my own eyes it was just you were there like i saw the game um so that's been the most annoying thing i think is like the the Ohio State fans and media being like, oh, look, that was the national championship. And it's like, yeah, Michigan lost to TCU, but they literally played. Ohio State's lost two games in a row.

Like, I don't understand that narrative at all. I mean, Michigan had a better record. They beat the shit out of Ohio State in the shoe, and they both lost at the same spot. Now, Georgia lost by one to the team that won the natty by 100. I understand

why, I guess, or how they're getting to that answer, but you can't just eliminate what happened for the entire season or what happened a month ago. It's comical especially like the thing is that you also have to look at how Michigan lost to TCU it wasn't like Michigan got like overpowered it was very obvious that Michigan was making

mistakes that they had never made all year long. So you look at two pick sixes. You look at being on the one-yard line twice and not scoring. That's 28 points right there. And so you're not going to tell me that Michigan was a – I mean, I actually still think that Michigan was probably the better team in that Michigan TCU game. They just shot themselves in the foot way too many times. So if you're going to tell me after all that that, oh, yeah,

Ohio State's a better team, get out of here, dude, just because of one game that they played with Georgia. And guess what? They shot themselves in the foot too because they absolutely blew it in the fourth quarter by multiple scores. I think Georgia – I think my number one takeaway from that game was that georgia was a lot better than we were giving them credit for like from start to finish it's got some bennett's money we can i like i think every angle that isn't georgia was the

best team this year is the wrong angle like if you can't admit that then there's no point in arguing like what does it what is ohio state can argue about because they came within a point i mean like games have a million different outcomes from a million different ways that can happen it's not just that transitive it's not just oh well marvin harrison got hurt so that's it and it's like he didn't catch the ball that he got hurt from it's like who's to say that he was going to catch every ball thrown at him the rest of the way he dropped a big pass against michigan too late in the game and he had an insane start to the game. So I just don't get, like, what that proves. I think at the end of the day, we can all, like, cohesively agree that Georgia was undoubtedly the best team in college football this year.

And Ohio State played a really good game against them. But they got their asses beat by Michigan a week prior, and it means nothing. Or two weeks, whatever it was, a month prior, even though it means nothing or two weeks, whatever it was a month prior, even though it means nothing because. To me, it's the same thing as Alabama fans screaming that they would have given Georgia a better game. I don't disagree with you. Yes, you would have given Georgia a better game, but guess what? I have an idea for how you get into the college football playoff is you

don't lose twice. Like that, that is pretty plain and simple. So my, in my opinion, don't lose twice. And then you get plain and simple to my in my opinion don't lose twice and then you get your chance to play georgia in the natty right and so i i um i will say like stetson bennett are you you know what you can talk your shit about stetson bennett about how he's not that good but he can point to everything to say like yeah i'm pretty fucking good i feel like nobody's saying that anymore right i people were up until that game for sure though right i felt like that was last year like i was definitely like stetson bennett he's a walk-on

like i've never heard of him whatever and then And then the one last year, I was like, okay, he was pretty fucking good. He destroyed us. And then he just kept doing it all year this year. And then in that game last night, I was like, he kind of looked like a better version of, like, sorry to say, like JJ in a way. 100% better. Well, he's also, I mean, this guy is about to start taking distributions

out of his IRA with no penalty. I think that's where the hate probably comes from is, like, he's also, I mean, this guy is about to start taking distributions out of his IRA with no penalty. Like, I think that's where the hate probably comes from is like, he's 25. Like he's, he's the same age as my wife. Who's got a master's degree and been out of school for two years. So like, I understand to a point where the hate comes from, but he did ball out this year. And also I keep seeing this meme go around where it's like a picture of him flexing. And it's like Stetson Bennett flexing on, you know, with a bunch of five stars dominating 19 to 20 year old kids.

And it was from Ohio state fans. Like you guys also have five stars. Like, right. Like quit trying to quit trying to be like, Oh, we're the, we're the victim here. But I also just, yeah. Stetson Bennett is an interesting case. Like I don't know what his NFL prospects are. Like I feel like he's probably going to work for Merrill Lynch soon, but he is a baller, man. Two natties.

You can't – when's the last team to win two in a row? It was probably Bama. I mean, Stetson is – he was phenomenal all season. Dude, when you look at a guy like Brock Purdy and what he's doing with the Niners, it makes me think Stetson Bennett can do whatever the fuck he wants in the NFL. Dude, Bill Belichick is salivating somewhere. Replace Mac Jones with him.

I mean, they really – they should just – he should just become a staffer at Georgia immediately. He should be director of recruiting or whatever it is. Why? He'll be sick in the NFL. I'm not sick, but – Why is everybody sleeping on Stetson Bennett? I'm not going to buy that one Why is everybody sleeping on Stetson Bennett?

I'm not going to buy that one I just want to point out that This argument about quarterbacks will always End up being pointed towards Brady And Brady's college tape and everything that Brady's done Since then, always, it'll always end up there Because it happened And guys like this continue to Pop up and turn into what they turn into

And most of the time it's a dud But a few times it's Tom Brady And if you an nfl front office and you're in the sixth round and you're looking at stetson bennett you're like you know what this is worth the risk of the potential upside so he'll 100 be in the league for at least like drew locks in the league everyone has a chance david blouse have a chance you have a chance david blouse started last week did he not i mean dude everyone has a chance to show up if you last week, did he not? I mean, dude, everyone has a chance. If you show up to tryouts, you have a chance. Here's my thought, though, is like, I don't know.

I equate him to like an A.J. McCarron a little bit, right? He's so athletic. A.J. McCarron was not even close. I know. He's a playmaker. Okay. He can run around. He can spend plays. He can throw money. I know. He's a playmaker. Okay. He can run around. He can spend plays.

He can throw up money. I mean, I agree with you. You're not giving him credit. Okay. Well, you have to let me finish my sentence. You'll quit him to A.J. McCarron. I don't know how I can. I can't let that slide.

Here's my take on it is that a lot of those like Bama quarterbacks that like a Mac Jones as well, right, where it's like you're really good when you have almost the best player at every position on your offense on the field at all times. And that's what you are at Bama and Georgia. It's like if you have Brock Bowers and then you go to the Cleveland Browns or, you know, the Jacksonville Jaguars or like insert you know the Chicago Bears right next year and it's like all of a sudden you have uh

um fucking Chase Claypool as your number one receiver and it's like oh wait he's not that good anymore you know like so I do I agree with Stetson Bennett, like outperformed what anybody thought he would do at Georgia, a thousand percent. And I think he's got athleticism that will surprise people at the next level. But I just think it, it looks so much easier than it is when you have the talent on the offensive line at tight end at wide receiver, when you have five stars at almost every position i mean here's a hot take do you really think that georgia's starting offense

is that much better than michigan's starting offense talent i think it's just better designed really like position by position not, not any of that. I mean, yeah, you've got these top guys, but Stetson Bennett is still putting the ball in the money. He's hitting guys in stride. He's putting balls where only his receivers can get it. I mean, it's not like he's just chucking it up there and those guys are making plays.

That's some of it. But Stetson Bennett is still putting the ball where it needs to be. If anything, you know who's doing that? It's Max Duggan. Duggan's throwing it up, chucking it up. Prayer to Quentin Johnson. Yeah. I mean, Duggan had that one pick that he had to that big receiver

that torched Michigan. He had him wide open over the middle, and he threw it, like, behind him, and that's why it ended up in a pick. But he had plenty of room to the left side. I mean, Bennett makes that throw, and he throws it on a dot, and it's why it ended up in a pick but he had plenty of room to left side i mean bennett and he throws it on a dot and it's and it's a touchdown i will say for the like i tcu played last night like i thought they would against michigan which was like that the spot the moment was too big for them i thought that they would come into the Michigan game where the moment was too big for them. And I mean, obviously the way that the game went right away, momentum went on their side immediately and that helped. And then in the Georgia game in the national championship,

momentum was never on their side. I mean, the one touchdown, I guess you could say, but like they, you know, it was a false start immediately. It was a fumble immediately. That I thought that last night Duggan was like, oh shit. Like, I'm not sure if we can be on this field. And it was very similar to how Michigan played against Georgia last year too. You know, it was like, we're a top dog in the big 10, but we're not on the, on Georgia's level. You know? So that was like the first time that I – I don't know.

I thought that TCU played last night like I envisioned them playing against Michigan. We shot ourselves in the foot early, and it changed the play out of that game, I thought. Yeah, I think – go ahead, Brandon. I think Michigan's offense, like if you compare them to Georgia's, for instance, I think the number one takeaway you can take from it is that like Michigan is power until it isn't.

And when it isn't, it has no clue what to do. Like it just doesn't have a counter for what doesn't work. It's like plan A, that's it. And for them, plan A worked all year except against illinois where we all know they got some you know accepted luck which at the end of the day like they end up beating ohio state anyway and so it's fine but that illinois game was you know they got outplayed that day like and we all watched it you know so when i just think that their power until they're not and so you know there's obviously rumors about you know what's going to happen with the staff and who's going to stay intact.

I mean, obviously, that starts from the top and that's the number one thing right now. But even with like Matt Weiss, like is Matt Weiss coming back? Is he not coming back? And if he isn't, does that mean Michigan's offense is going to lose its inventiveness and like lean too much on power again? Or is it the opposite? I don't know. I just know that when they get to those games where we didn't even – they didn't even get to Georgia.

We didn't even get to see what that was going to look like against Georgia. But if they didn't win the power matchup against Georgia, what was going to happen? The counter was really good against TCU. I thought the offense was designed really well against TCU. Obviously, 48 points kind of speaks for itself, right? But I just think that when it came to that Georgia game, hypothetically, just thinking about what TCU did, I think Michigan ran into some problems

because those two offenses are pretty similar, as much as we don't like to admit it. Because what is Michigan's offense? Is it the 55-carry offense, or is it what we saw against TCU and what we saw against Purdue? Well, let's talk about that and what it's going to look like in 2023 because Blake Horne just announced that he's coming back, which is gigantic in my opinion. Why don't we start off here? Jack texted us that he hates Blake Horne and doesn't want him on our team next year.

I've seen that take a lot that people are concerned that Blake coming back is going to take carries away from Donovan, but I think it's the opposite. I think both guys are going to benefit from being able to split carries and not have to carry the ball 30 times against Nebraska, like Blake Corham did last year, which is still almost malpractice. You know, as I'm thinking about it. And I think not needing to lean on Cole Cabana so much coming in. I know he's going to be in early this year as an early enrollee, And I think not needing to lean on Cole Cabana so much coming in.

I know he's going to be in early this year as an early enrollee. But just being able to have two of the top five backs in the country on your team is always a good thing. I think the thing that I'm most excited about is the potential to have both on the field at the same time and be able to create mismatches. And I was texting with Jack about this, but creating mismatches with Donovan out of the backfield or motioning him out to be in the slot and get him lined up on a linebacker or safety and it's going to be even a corner i mean he is so good at being a receiver that i

think he could be a first round pick as a receiver so i mean it opens a lot of things up but again it's got to come down to the design. There were a lot of things that Michigan did this year that were kind of head-scratching. They really ran a lot of screens week one and two and then kind of went away from them. They tried to do, like, a fake pass off of a sweep that they – they never ran a sweep before, so it didn't fool the defense.

So, like, there's a lot of things that there was no cohesion to, and I don't know how much of that i put on the you know the um coaches having two ocs i don't know but like there's a lot of talent again there needs to be some cohesion to the game plan throughout the year to be able to build off of things i thought they did a good job in the ohio state game but i mean they were just you know look you know, look, there were some busts that Ohio State just, you know, didn't have a guy in the right gap. And a lot of that was created by the run game with the quarterback, and that's another thing that needs to be implemented.

So there's a lot that I'm excited about. Didn't mean to hijack this, but, yeah, I think it's a good thing that Blake Corham is back. All right, that is – wow, hot take that Heisman contender before he got hurt is back. Let me, I'm going to go ahead and read the text messages I received from Jordan, Jack shield yesterday. When we sent lovely, we said that I myself, we said that Blake quorum is returning.

We sent the news in our group chat and Jack shield. I'm so pissed. He better be RB twowards is better than quorum and it's not particularly close facts he i just really want dono to not lose snaps but also quorum is super overrated and short so he can't be trusted also facts dude short king plan so what we're gonna do here is we're gonna get uh blake quorum and jack in a room lock the door and read these aloud and see what happens and blake's just going to go home with drake blake blake's too nice he wouldn't do anything he would laugh at you in your face and it would just like i feel like he could probably like take you down to the with like

100 he could take me down just by looking at you like just he wouldn't even have to touch oh dude i'd be shaking yes for sure just to fucking me it would be it'd be like he'd like do one of these to make you flinch and then you'd just be like, ah, cowering in the corner. I'd just shit my pants. Yeah. I 100% believe that Donovan Edwards is better all around than Blake Corham, and it's a valid concern that I have that Dono's not going to get as many snaps as maybe I think he should because Blake's coming back.

Now, after talking to Tanner and Kalen, you know, if Dono's still getting snaps and he's, you know, playing out wide at receiver and maybe doing like a wide back Debo Samuel type role, then I'm okay with it. Like, as long as he's getting utilized in the pass game and the run game, then I'm fine with it. But, you know, if it's legitimate Blake's RB1 and Dono's only getting in there on third down or whatever, then I'm going to be a little, you know, annoyed. Because, you know, we saw what he did against Ohio State. We saw what he did against Purdue. I mean, he's a big-time playmaker. Not saying Blake's not, but Dono's better at catching the ball.

He's a threat out wide, and he can run the ball and he's physical the one thing i'll i'll agree with you on is i think it needs to be a 1a 1b situation where they split carries pretty evenly i don't i don't think it'll be good and donovan i mean honestly he'll probably be in the portal halfway through the year if he's getting, you know, six snaps, six carries a game. And nobody would be like, oh, why are you in the portal, right? Like nobody would question that. So I do agree with you that I hope that it's a 1A, 1B situation. But, like, here's my take. I was talking on the phone with Jake Budd about this for a long time.

Jake was fired up today. Name drop. Name drop. Name drop. Humble brag. Humble brag. If you guys aren't aware, I do that quite a bit, like way too often on this show. Why do you think I'm joining, Doug? I'm just trying to be able to be like, yo, insert Michigan athlete,

and I were just texting. We were just using emojis all day, bro. Sending GIFs back and forth. We were was sick um no but he uh he said it we we both said it really was that tcu was the first time that i thought that michigan really missed blake quorum since the injury because Dono is incredible at putting his head down, running as hard as he can and getting yards there. And I know he's explosive in a lot of different ways, but I felt like there was a linebacker in that hole every single time. And Blake usually you he's shifty and bounces it or, you know, makes the guy miss. I go back to that, the All-American linebacker for Iowa, right?

He's in the hole on that one play, and Blake makes one move, and the dude is gone, right? And so that's where, like, I thought that Blake, we missed Blake, and Donovan may get to that point in 2023, right? He may develop a shiftiness to himself, but I just think that he is the downhill runner. And that's why I think Blake was able to grow from 2021 to 2022 to become this like all purpose, all down back that's that's why i think blake is so

incredibly important to this team i mean obviously you can have that take when blake didn't play in the game but it's hard to put all that on dono i mean the old line i'm not saying it's donald's fault no i but i think we i think like i think it goes a little bit differently. There are some of those that aren't just stopped at the line if Blake's carrying the ball instead of Dono just like 100 miles an hour with his head down trying to overpower an All-American linebacker. Yeah, because if you look at Blake's vision, it's elite for a college running back. Donovan has very good vision, but there are some holes that were missed.

And there were a couple times where I thought he really tried to bounce it and just wasn't able to hit the edge and maybe would have been better suited with a jump cut. But that's not really his game. So I think just having both guys is a really tough thing for defenses to handle. And when they did have split carries, it was a Penn State game. Right? If that's the game plan for both,

obviously you're not going to have 40 yards, four touchdowns each game. But if that's the game plan to be able to have both of those guys in and out, keep them fresh, that's got to be the game plan all year. How do we feel about the wing tee with A.J. Donovan? I honestly wouldn't hate it. I would not hate it. I think Donovan's getting there with his vision, but I thought he missed a lot when he had to carry it. At the goal line. It's funny with that goal. At the goal line, it'd be sweet. I think Donovan's, like, getting there with his vision, but I thought he missed a lot when he had to carry it.

Like, he has all the makings of a lead back, and I'm positive he could be one if Blake wasn't returning or anything, but I think Blake is unequivocally better than him, like, right now. Like, as a runner, as a running back. Donovan does a lot of things on the field that Blake can't do, like, in the air and as a wide out and, wideout and this, that, and the other thing. I don't know who's the better blocker, but you can probably pick and choose there. I think they're both good.

But I think the better true runner, the better guy to get the ball and trust on third and one is still Blake. But that's not like discrediting what Donovan does. I think Tanner said it best. Those two are the perfect complement to each other. I don't see any of this being an issue I think that they're both all in on each other being you know the spell and being that 1a and the 1b situation I think they're all about that together so also it's gonna be a problem the I mean let's think about it both of them were injured this year you know so like nice insurance to have I mean I

mean we don't with without donovan edwards that we don't win we don't beat ohio state we don't win the big 10 right like um that is dj stokes and isaiah gash versus yeah you're not having your third and fourth string running backs you know have to carry a game on on their shoulders which i think that kalel mullings should start wearing a neck roll. That would be a fullback. Cowboy collar. That only makes sense to me. I think the unspoken thing about Blake and Dono, though, is

we also want to make sure we have a competent backup to JJ so we feel confident allowing him to run on some of these. Come on now. Davis Warren. I'm just saying. The slander on this podcast is ridiculous.

We were kind of. Davis Warren slander. Davis Warren is no worse than Cade McNamara. Davis Warren can actually run and I think fits the offense a lot better. If the worst comes to worst, he is able to run that offense. I like what I saw from him.

He could be back there. He's probably got seven years of eligibility still with COVID. Are we not allowed to talk about this? What's up with that guy? Who? Cade. What's up with that guy? Cade.

What's up with that guy? Yeah, what's up with that guy? He's going to be the weirdest transfer of all time. He's the weirdest Big Ten West player of the year. He's the weirdest transfer of all time. That's wrestling school in the Big Ten. What do you want from him? Okay, if I was Cade, I would transfer too,

and I was not a bad place for him to shine. Oh, I have no problem with the decision. It's just like I don't even have a problem at all. I just think it's been weird. And, like, the way he's gone about the move has just been odd. It's like not to, like, shine any animosity. It's just been like he does that interview where he's like, Oh, please tell us how bad we are. Please tell us how bad we are. I'm just like, all to, like, shine any animosity. It's just been, like – I mean, he just – He does that interview where he's like, oh, please tell us how bad we are.

Please tell us how bad we are. I'm just like, all right, man. Like, we get it. You have a chip on your shoulder. Like, we need to – Brian Farris is your OC. Like, that – I don't know.

I feel like he's going to – Just digging a new hole. If I'm a player on that team, like, I wouldn't like that. No. And I feel like he's going to realize really quickly what being in an Iowa offense is like once he gets there. He's going to be like, oh, shit, I don't have Sherrell Moore as my old coordinator.

And I, like, we're going to, like, their whole thing is punting is winning. Like, that's the offense that he's going into. They're playing the field position game. Yes. And so it's going to be really interesting. What about Drell to Oklahoma? Good for him, man. That's awesome.

Huge W. Perfect fit. He could have like 1,000 receiving yards next year, honestly. Yeah. They're going to be a lot better. Bill and Gabriel, right? I assume he'd be gone. No, he's back.

I think he's still a year left You have to remember we're in post-COVID So like everyone Everyone's going to be Stetson Bennett Everyone's going to be Stetson Bennett It's fine Dylan Gabriel will like him If he's still around

He'll be perfect in a vertical offense That's like practically an air raid I mean there was plenty of times Andro was wide open down the field And we just couldn't connect with him i mean he great receiver ran some shitty routes though i i mean but i will say like i watched that fourth quarter of the tcu game and i was like if we needed to sling it all year we probably could have right and like jj's on the money, man. I know you had the issues with the picks, right?

Those are two glaring issues. But, you know, it's tough when you're watching it in person as you and I were humble brag again. But I was in the TCU section, dude. Let me just real quick. The fucking worst, bro. Like the first play, I start waving to the TCU fans behind me like this. And then he gets caught because Ronnieonnie bell doesn't get his block and i'm just losing it and anyways jj was uh was on the

money man some of those throws like the throw to roman was perfect like he could have let him a little bit more but like then you run the risk of overthrowing him um the touchdown to – I think maybe it wasn't the touchdown. Maybe it was Ronnie Bell got down to the one, was on the money on that post, and then the flea flicker was easy. But that kid was slinging it, man, and I was really impressed with his game outside the picks, which are obviously huge, but he was playing hard. And I do know, as much as I love Davis Warren,

I do know that they utilized J.J. running in that fourth quarter more than they ever have before. And they'd been hesitant to do that because they didn't feel that Davis Warren was like 100% ready to lead that game. It's the last game of the year, though. So, yes, i'm saying i'm saying they ended up doing it in that game because it was like potentially they need to do it in the first quarter they didn't do it till the 41 22 and then he breaks off the two big runs and that

was one of my gripes of like georgia did it right away and that was the way to beat them was to get to the outside was to put their linebackers in conflict michigan never did that that's what's so frustrating about that game. Well, especially even you saw how fast JJ is and athletic he was. I think it was the first drive where he escaped out to the right, came all the way back around the field. That play was nasty. That play was ridiculous.

He should have been running like that the entire game. I want him to Superman dive, like float across the goal line like Mike Vick back in the day. I needed that so bad. Because, again, just like you said, the momentum, that could have... If Dono scores or JJ scores, there's something, and we don't run the stupid Philly special. Different game, yeah. I think there was a point to the TCU player being like,

oh yeah, I think we had them once they started running trick plays. We felt like the desperate team, which was stupid. You have the best line, run it down their throat from the two-yard line. I don't understand that. Or just kick a field goal. Like, I mean – Yeah, take your points.

Take your points. It's so early, so early. Like, I don't know. It's like watching a good movie, right? You got to have a setup and then a payoff. But when there's no setup, there's no payoff. Right, exactly. So, we're running these trick plays and they're like, okay.

Like, I see you're trying to trick me like yeah it's stupid i will say though i not that i didn't have respect or for jj or thought that he was great but like holy shit in that second half against tcu i was like this dude is him like legitimately this is the dude i want, I really think that going into 2023, I'm like, man, the sky, like that, that dude should be, I'll be mad if we don't get him to be a Heisman contender by the end of the year of 2023. Like you have to utilize the shit out of him in the run game and throwing

the ball. Like we can't go through the year i know we've got two of the best running backs in the nation right in in our backfield but like i think you have to have a big balance of utilizing jj mccarthy and the talent that he has otherwise i'll be really frustrated if he's like ready to go to the uh to the draft and we you know he's got 20 touchdowns to to three picks again like we need to get to get him to like 30 touchdowns and and throw the ball a lot more we should have 3 000 yard rushers we should and i think i i agree with you guys like jj needs to be a playmaker and I feel like you guys are a little – I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something.

But I feel like you guys are hyping him up to be the passer that he's not there yet. Because, I mean – and, again, he was hurt a lot of the season apparently. Were you sleeping during that game too? No, but, I mean, you've seen J.J. throw the ball all season. It's not like he's throwing docks. Yeah, but they never really let him get into a rhythm. Like, I've seen him make NFL-level throws, and then they'll run the ball 10 straight times. And it's, you know, it's let him get into a rhythm. Like I've seen him make NFL level throws and then they'll run the ball 10 straight times.

And it's, you know, it's hard to get into a rhythm. If he can throw the ball like crazy well next year, I mean, he's got the Heisman locked up. But I think he's just so athletic that you've got to kind of, you've got to run some read options with him and Dono or him and Blake or whoever. You need to get him outside of the pocket. I think the point more was like when we saw – when we had to rely on JJ and it was like, all right, JJ, you're going to be the guy in this fourth quarter and you're going to sling it all over the place. He was on the money 99% of the time.

That last touchdown, like he created that. He created that. Like he was running around and found was it roman in the back of the end zone i mean ridiculous and that's the potential and that's why you go with him over a safe pick and kate mckinley like that's the reason why everyone was so excited was because he makes plays like that now it's year two as a starter year three in the program healthy off season please god like that's the that that's the recipe for Heisman top 10. You do have to remember you just made a good point, Tanner.

Like he didn't throw with any of our receivers until fall camp. Any of them. You missed the entire spring ball, right? You missed the entire spring ball. And he also did not throw very much if at all through the summer he was he was still rehabbing and so that i like i think a healthy offseason with some of these younger guys if i was a michigan fan i would be very very excited about a marion walker gonna be an absolute stud darius clemens darius clemens is gonna be an absolute beast. Darius Clemens. Darius Clemens is going to be an absolute beast.

Mario Walker might play corner, to be honest, because I don't know what's going to go on at that position right now. But, like, I want to see – I'm sorry. I love Blake and I love Donovan, but, like, I need to see J.J. connect with Darius Clemens a lot next year. Like, I need to see JJ connect with Darius Clemens a lot next year. Like, I need to see that. Otherwise, to be honest, like, our recruiting at the quarterback and the wide receiver position is going to plummet more, you know,

than it already has. Any last words, Justice, before you go to practice? I was just about to say I have to go. Let's see. Well, A, I'm sorry that on the first episode i have to go to ball b ball is life so i have no other option um outside of that i have some clothes i you know what i do have a closing sentiment all right how about this so the 2022 michigan season very successful very good right but everyone has a sour taste in their mouth because they lost in the semi-final

right okay had michigan beaten tcu which they did not let's let's not dive into hypotheticals but had they had they everyone would be talking about michigan as the preseason number one or two which you know depending on what georgia returns i don't know but they would be like the number two or the number one like undoubtedly there would be no second guessing it but because they lost a game where if you're a human being you had eyes on and you watched it michigan made a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes whereas in 13 games they did not make them okay everyone's opinion on michigan next year just completely shifted because of that game and that's normal human behavior i don't i'm not surprised by it i just want to explain that it is wrong because had that had that not happened this would be a

totally different opinion because of why because michigan returns everything they use the transfer portal to plug every hole they have outside of maybe like corner but but either way will johnson comes back and there's all these rumors about this usc guy well and i don't want to say his name it's like voldemort i don't want jinx it or anything all these things are happening right they have every hole plugged they get jj back blake back donovan back most of the receiving the i think we're going to see better receivers next year as everyone knows i am a wr hater um whatever and bulk of their own line coming back zach zinner might come back trevor keegan might come back. It's like had they beaten TCU, the conversation on Michigan would be an unequivocal number two, second only to Georgia, and it would be marginal.

But because they lost that game to TCU, which they did, no one is denying that or making excuses for that. But because of that, it changed the narrative on a team next year that has no effect on the team from last year, which was the same conversation we had before last year where everyone said, because Michigan lost to Georgia, that'll be one good year and it'll be over. But then Michigan did it again and they went 13-0. And now the same thing is happening.

They're saying the same things because the same thing happened, but the same thing is going to happen. Michigan's going to have just as good as a team. They'll probably beat Ohio State at home, and they'll probably manhandle everybody else, and they'll probably go 13-0. All right. I love it. I'm fired up, dude. Is it September yet? Are we at a tailgate yet?

Holy shit. I need warm weather and a tailgate, spending $6 on beer, talking to John Teske right now. It'll be my first time going to a game without having to go to the press box and actually being able to hang out with people I enjoy. No offense, there's a lot of writers I do enjoy, but it's just it'll be more fun and you're gonna have so much fun man i'm looking

forward to it i still gotta behave myself you know public figure and all i work for a public company all right i gotta control myself out there so seltzers only i'll see you guys later all right hit some rockets appreciate it all right i've got my response to him on i think he makes a really good point. Like if, if things go differently there, then all of a sudden, you know,

it's no doubt for a number two, right? If not possibly preseason number one, I love it. I love it. It's, it's another, anytime that we are slighted and I love it.

I think JJ and Blake take that to heart. I truly do believe that. And also, like, talking to a lot of these guys, you know, the whole, like, oh, they're standing out on the field again and watching the celebration. You know, it didn't work last year. Like, they're actually really hurt that they lost that game they feel like they lost on one of the best opportunities ever to win a national title and i really truly think that they're going to be thinking about that all year long so as much as obviously you want to win a

national title you want to do it all like i think that ultimately for this 2023 team them losing that game is going to be all they think about all offseason and it's going to make them fight and empower everything so that they go back and do exactly what justice says um which is you know go out hopefully beat everybody and and get your next shot at a title yeah i mean i think the thing that we're realizing is this is big boy football. This shit's hard, man. I was in a Twitter space with an Ohio State fan who I go back and forth with, but he's a pretty smart guy for the most part. But, like, that's what he was saying.

Like, this shit is hard. Like, there's only four teams that come to this dance every single year. I know it's going to increase. But, like, to even get to the playoffs is awesome. And not to take any moral victories or anything, because I know the guys want to win it all, and obviously we want to win it all and go 15-0. But I think it's just so hard, and the narrative always changes, like Brandon said.

But I think as we get into the spring and into the summer, that will kind of change, and I think people will see Michigan as a top- three team with everything that they have coming back and everything they've added. I'm very fired up for this team. I don't know if you guys want to make any comments. I know there's a huge lingering cloud over everything right now that's kind of annoying.

I haven't seen any preseason polls where they don't have Michigan as a top three team. Yeah, I saw Joe Klatt had Michigan two behind Georgia. I've seen some people have Michigan like four. I haven't seen anything that people are not having Michigan up there. Yeah, I've seen three, four, but I've seen two as well. Any top four is – top five preseason is fine.

Dude, okay, I have a couple things in response is response is a yes like go look at how many teams have gone 13 and 0 and 13 and 1 right like it's not that many you know there are so many there's 120 teams that would kill that to do what michigan did this year right and and there's 130 however many teams of mich Michigan football history that would kill to do what Michigan did. You know, if you go back and talk to Taylor LeJuan, talk to Devin Gardner, talk to Jake Butt, and these dudes would absolutely kill to have that season that they did.

So, like, for us, the fan, you know, it's easy to overreact and be disappointed and say they underachieved and blah, blah, blah. But, like, this team was really incredible and did things that a lot of other teams never did. So I agree with you in that, Tanner. Like, people have to realize, like, I know we can, you know, it's not like I want to set our expectations low or something,

but, like, you need to realize what, what it is, how difficult it is and what it was to for them to accomplish that. The second piece, like, yeah, you're right. The Harbaugh thing is the elephant in the room and it's getting to be annoying. Like we're, we're really to the point where like, all right, he's interviewing with the, with the Broncos for two hours. And I was told by someone today that the Broncos like legitimately are ready to offer $20 million a year.

Like that's probably going to happen. That offer is going to come out here soon. And like, okay, I thought that this year what Jim Harbaugh is doing is the first time that he is actually going back on his word and lying to us. Every other time, when he says something, he sticks by it. This time, it's pissing me off because he didn't. I felt like he lied to us and he lied to the administration. And you know what?

It's hurting everything again. It's hurting all the momentum. So two years in a row, you have two of the best seasons of Michigan football. And two years in a row, that momentum is stunted almost immediately with this stuff. I feel like he's going very hardball. It's Ward Manuel and the athletic department that he's pissed off at. It's got to be something behind closed doors. I don't know.

All the players talk about how much you love them and everything like that. It's got to be something behind closed doors. I don't know. All the players talk about how much you love him and everything like that. It's got to be something else going on. I do think he's a very ego, petty man. And I think he felt slighted in 2020 when he got his pay cut and all that whole thing. And he's been on a mission to throw up his middle finger to everybody everybody who doubted him since then and i think that ward manual is probably one of those guys that's on his list but it's also but it's also interesting because everybody that wanted him fired ward was the one that wanted that said he was going to keep him around i mean he could have fired him the whole

situation i don't know what's going on he he could have fired him and it would have been justified after 2020. Right. So I do agree with that. Like, you know, he's probably like an F you to them and wants to like, you know, say like you didn't believe in me. Well, look at me now. But also like to your point, Jack, that's a good point. Like Ward can be like, I was the only guy who believed in you, dude. Plus, I have to assume, like, guys like Blake said, they talked to Harbaugh.

I have to assume there was like, hey, coach, are you coming back? If you're back, I'm back. So. I do agree with that. Like, that whole move seemed crazy to me of Blake to do that without knowing that his coach is back. Because if Blake makes that decision and then Harbaugh decides to take a job, I mean, everything changes. Obviously, there's no doubt that Blake would still be like RB1 here, right? Like, it's not like that's changing.

But, like, all of a a sudden probably some guys on the offensive line uh leave and the portal guys probably don't end up coming here and like the whole roster the whole schembechler hall changes if harbaugh doesn't come back so i agree with you there caitlin yeah i'm i'm very frustrated at this point with everything that's going on and everything that i've read from the you you know, different, different message boards. I think the thing that is so frustrating is that last year he signed a new contract and said, I will be here as long as you'll have me, this will not be a reoccurring thing.

And then to have it literally like three days after the season ends to start seeing these rumors pop up is very frustrating as a fan. And, you know, it's tough for me because, you know, and I think when it comes to money, somebody like Jim Harbaugh who's made so much in his career as a coach and as a player is probably invested. He's probably worth, you know, eight figures plus, right? I think the thing that I always try to think about is it's not about the money.

It's about the respect and, you know, maybe the admiration of like hey we gotta have you but the thing that I keep thinking about because like I've seen stuff where it's like oh he feels he felt slighted or he feels slighted because he's not paid as much as Mel Tucker or Ryan Day or whatever but it's like it just you kind of alluded to this like dude you you struggled the first six years like that's that's unequivocally a fact and you were paid as a top five coach in college football going yeah you had some 10 win seasons but you went nine to four eight and five in the two and four seasons so my thing is like michigan did keep you stood by you and maybe you felt slighted i don't know like i'm not like anybody who's at this level of their profession is probably a huge fucking weirdo.

Right. Like you have to have like some sort of weird way. Jim Harbaugh. Right. No. Yeah. But I mean, just anybody else, like anybody at this level, like even if you're like an accountant and you're like the top G, like you are, you know, you're probably a weirdo. Right.

So I don't have that mindset. I'm cool with just being above average. That's not what I was referencing, but the top dog. But I keep – you know, he comes up on my TikTok all the time. I'm like, dude, get out of here. But, yeah, it's just – I don't know, man. It's just been really weird, and it's really frustrating. And I feel for the guys.

And, you know, the guys that have NFL decisions that's coming up it's January 10th that's coming up on Monday in six days end of the week I mean like what are we doing here so it's just really frustrating to kind of see Michigan be second fiddle to be his fallback plan um especially all the you know the coach he played for all the things that he preached about as far as the team the team the, no man's bigger than the team. Now he's kind of making himself a little bit bigger than the team. Right, yeah. Whatever your thoughts on Bo, those things still do ring true, and he's completely going against that and not calling a liar, but he did go back on his word.

He said this would never happen again, and here we are again. To be fair, he did say there's no telling what the future holds. He gave himself an out. That's right. But, like, that's even more annoying, you know? Like, I don't know. It's even more annoying. So good at covering his chest. Don't say anything.

Just don't say anything at that point or something. It is frustrating. It just feels like that kick in the dick, right? Every time we're like, all right, we're like – for me as a lifelong Michigan fan, and I know Jim Harbaugh doesn't owe me anything as a lifelong Michigan fan, right? I think we have to – there are people on social media that, like, think that just because they, you know,

go to one game a year or something that they're, like, owed something by Jim Harbaugh. Let's take that out of the equation. But I think that he, like, it feels like, all right, we have this chance to be, like, a true top three program in the country for five plus years on a run here right and it feels like we are like we're we're just really putting that in jeopardy by what's been going on um i mean we're doing it in despite some recruiting struggles, that's for sure.

And you're putting the Jaden Davis stuff in jeopardy right now and a lot of other things. And so I like it just feels like we have this opportunity lying ahead of us. And this is doing the opposite of what you what you want as a michigan fan and i i we have strived like we've waited for 20 years to get to this fucking point like 20 years man and even like i love lloyd carr but even lloyd carr really never got to this point of having it go back to back years and build it into something like a dynasty right like we're too good at it though he did win an ad you know for sure but like if i again this is not i'm i'm a gigantic lloyd car fan but like if you look at what else he did it was like 10 and 3 9 and 3 9 and 4 and you know back then that was good enough to win the Big Ten because the Big Ten was that good. And it was more like level instead of just Ohio State and Michigan.

But I just feel that, you know, I'm talking in circles now, but we have this opportunity and we're not taking advantage of it because of a lot of things. And from a Michigan fans perspective that have watched the struggles of this program for 20 years, up until 2021, it hurts my soul. It hurts my soul that this opportunity is there and we're not like, just like taking it and running with it. Speaking of head coaches and struggling, maybe we can segue into Mel Tucker. Oh, that's not where i was going but i love it love the energy go ahead go ahead sorry matt lafleur talking nfl i'm still

you wanted to touch on some of the uh ncaa stuff the hoops oh i meant like the violations and stuff oh the violations gotcha i thought we were leaning towards juan howard for a second yeah i could have seen that um which i think i to touch on basketball real quick i think that michigan still has a chance to like get it right here this year the big 10 is still wide open there even purdue has lost some games in the big 10 so like you know they're although obviously the for a tournament resume the non-conference is not good for michigan's resume but they still have a chance to turn it around you know you would have loved to win in uh in the breslin and hey you might need to like not go 10 minutes without scoring to win a basketball game on the road in the big 10 but there's a chance that they can get it right um i'm not i'm definitely not on like a fire juan howard train quite yet it's there's

there's a lot of opportunity there um the violations uh kaylin the ncaa can suck it can 1000 suck it like do we know what the other violations were because i know the burger class one violation right and there was a couple class two violations were? Because I know the Berger was a class one violation, right? And there was a couple class two violations. I think the class one is like Jim not necessarily. Well, I think the level one is him not necessarily being 100%

truthful because everything else was like if he if that if the level one is not there like this is a non story because these things happen all the time and team self report all the time. So I it was jim maybe saying screw you or was not 100% truthful with the incident blades investigation i feel like there's shades of and maybe i'm just not remembering this quite right shades of uh jim trestle in a way guys where the NCAA asked Jim Trestle are your guys like selling their stuff or like you know what was it tattoos and stuff like that and he kind of like gave a non-answer like

nebulous you know I'm not gonna on them little did he know the NCAA had already talked to them and already caught them right the one the one post you sent i think caitlin where it was like this was probably just jim harbaugh giving the weirdest answer ever as he does it in every press conference like that's probably what happened oh my gosh what did that guy say find that find that and read it because that was so funny and it's probably exactly true like jim harbaugh they were like you know hey what happened here he's like well they were like, hey, what happened here? He's like, well, do we really know what happened?

He starts talking like Matthew McConaughey. Did you buy two recruits a burger? What is savory in the mouth of a recruit doesn't shine bright at the bottom of the Nile River. That's exactly how I'm going to read a quote. Fruit loops on a toasted bun won't make you the valedictorian that was so funny because it was just like that's exactly how i see this playing out and or is either that or like jim harbaugh 1000 like, you Why are you even spending your time investigating this when there's obvious tampering going on at every other school ever? So like, go spend your time

elsewhere. He I that's how I see it happening where he was just like, I'm not even gonna spend the time to talk to you today because this is so ridiculous. And my understanding was this was from two years ago? This was 2020. How deep was this audit? I think they just moved that slow. They're like the sloth in Zootopia. That's how slow they move. It's such a ridiculous organization and i don't know how they keep getting away with these things because it's like name it i mean it's it's

essentially the government right like they move they operate very similarly to the government but like they truly we're gonna get to a point where all these head coaches and ad's are going to say screw you we're going to go all it takes is like five of of the big time football programs to say we're going to go do our own thing and that's it and i feel like we're really close to that but i mean even if they go like like if you're harbaugh or even ward right why wouldn't you just go like ncaa like guess what we don't care and the ncaa says like well fine your punishment is you can't coach the first three games jim harbaugh should go fine whatever what do you what's that's gonna do nothing to us and i actually i think i tweeted this out back when they came out as well. Like I would love that actually.

Like Jim Arbaugh coming back from that fourth one to just the biggest ovation in the big house ever. And like he's just like on a mission for a middle finger to be able to like receive the national championship trophy. And they just do this to Mark Emmert or whoever hands him the trophy. Like, oh my God, that would be incredible. The shirts make themselves at that point. Yeah, a thousand percent. Like, he's wearing a shirt that just says, like, fuck you, NCAA on it.

It's wearing the Brian Bosworth national something against – is it National Communists against Athletes was the Brian Bosworth T-shirt that he wore when he was suspended? Yeah. The fourth game, by the way, is against Rutgers. So, Shiano and the boys might be in for a rough three hours. All school. Rutgers.

Nice. Actually, so can we talk about Georgia's schedule too? That was going around today. If anybody talks about Michigan's schedule this year That was going around today. If anybody talks about Michigan's schedule this year, then screw you. Georgia's is just as bad, if not worse.

But they play Georgia Tech in the non-conference. Even though they only play eight conference games, it's fine. Georgia Tech is got to be in the same level as Hawaii. Georgia Tech is certainly a football team. They do play football. Actually, it's like weird football because they kind of play

like Army. That's why they've been so bad. It's really hard to switch from that system to a spread. They did it with Paul Johnson for a decade and then to switch from that system. For 100 years. To like a spread. Yeah, because they did it with Paul Johnson for a decade. And then to switch to like a spread, you just don't have the guys up front. So that's why they've been getting their ass kicked. Isn't Georgia Tech – wasn't it Georgia Tech versus Cumberland

that was like the 222-0 game? Yep. They've been playing football like that for like literally 200 years and then decided, nope, no longer going to no no longer they're also in atlanta like how can you like why are you bad you're a great school you're in atlanta you're in the biggest recruiting hotbed like i don't understand how they're not better which that stat came out the other night too that like every national champion uh qb over the last five years has come from georgia crazy crazy crazy oh man this is i i don't know i i will say to uh to go back to what you said tanner like i don't want to go nine months without football i really don't

i'm really looking forward to this weekend though because we have saturday sunday monday and i don't know about you guys but i i'm off on monday the market's closed. So, three-day weekend for your boy. A little football. Yeah, you know, just chilling. Some sweatpants, just vibing in the house. I will say, this feels like, for the first time in a long time, it's like both Michigan and the Lions, you're like on the up and up, looking forward to next year instead of talking shit about them

like all year long and how – like what could have been. There is a little bit of that with Michigan, but like usually it's like next year is the year that the Lions are going to find a quarterback and make the playoffs. Next year is the year that Michigan is going to finally beat ohio state like for the first time in a long time it's like oh like we we actually have some things to really look forward i mean dude depending how free agency goes for the lions and how the draft goes they gotta be favored in the nfc north well their roster should be good if if rogers uh gone he. He's so gone.

Well, his post-game presser is crying. I'm holding on to this one. Do you hear that? That one that – He was like already talking. He's like, I'm going to miss the guys. I'm going to miss the fans. Yeah, dude, he's gone.

The game ended two minutes ago. And if he comes back, it doesn't matter. He's washed. Yeah, he's not very good. He was 0-2 against the Lions this year. And they have nobody. Like, Lazard's going to be gone. He was –

He's not that good. CJ Stroud to the Lions? No, dude. We got Jared Goff. I think CJ Stroud's, like, not floor, but, like, I think what he'll be is, like, Goff. Like, very accurate. I don't know if he's going to go win you a game,

but I will say CJ against Ohio State was an absolute dog. Like, where was that dog like i'm not i'm not mad because i think if he plays like that against michigan yeah if he plays like that against michigan they probably convert some more third downs where it's like where was that like if he plays like that i'm i'm fine with the team that takes him in the first round after seeing him play against georgia but i don't think the lion should or that's all that uh that defensive tackle from Georgia. What's that guy's name?

He's probably going to be gone. He's so good. Maybe Will Anderson. But, like, you have Hutch and you have James Houston. So, like, you have edge rushers. You need a corner for sure. He's a combo. He's an edge guy.

But him and Hutch off the edge with James Houston is like a – I mean, dude, their eye for talent is crazy. Can we talk about how Hutch just proved literally every hater wrong? Well, okay, it was all Michigan State fans. It was all Michigan State fans. That's true. It was only Michigan State fans. Honestly, though.

The blue wall. He was so good. Like, you could really see, like, the first few weeks, like, he would get sacks, but it was just, like, hustle plays. But, like, later in the season, like, he's legitimately beating NFL starting tackles pretty regularly. And he's always around the ball. Interceptions.

Yeah. He's got two follow-up covers. The one play where he just, like, stands next to the sideline. Where did that come from? What was that? I think it was like end of the game or something. It was end of the half. So like they were just in a prevent.

But, yeah, he was just like standing by the sideline and Justin Fields never saw him. That was incredible. He jumped the route, dude. That was incredible. Yeah, no, I loved it. I loved it. And I think they're like, dude,

I'm excited to watch some of these other guys at the next level for Michigan. Mike Moe, going to be a stud in my opinion. Mozzie, going to be a stud in my opinion. Oh, yeah. DJ. DJ, going to be a stud. I like what, you know, Olu, going to be a stud.

Oh, yeah. I really like what I – Ronnie, I hope Ronnie does really well at the next level. I saw somebody had Schoon as a second rounder. I don't know if that was legit. I think Rapoport, when he tweeted, was like he's a projected second rounder. That's awesome. Yeah.

I don't know if I'm supposed to say this, but Schoon he's like screwed up his shoulder and he got a concussion all in one play. It looked like it. That sounds awful. Yeah. I'm hoping that he's going to be good, but I think Schooney is a –

I think he can be a really, really solid option for somebody at tight end. He's really good at blocking, and he is just so reliable. That was another one we missed in that TCU game. He's just got the perfect last name for a tight end, Schoonmaker. Do we have anybody that has a hard O sound that we can like, ooh, in the big house? Because that was fun. Soul train. like a hard oh sound that we can like in the big house that was fun so pray joel he sounds like joel's gone joel yeah he's he's out of coveted years unfortunately yeah going to the nfl right

he signed with an agent um talked to him for a little bit he's like i think he could be a great there there are opportunities for blocking tight ends in the NFL too. Yeah, and this isn't a slide or anything, but Sean McEwen's been with the Cowboys his whole career after signing from the practice swats. Somebody like Joel who may not even – he's probably not going to get drafted, but is probably going to get a call to be an undrafted free agent, has an opportunity to make a football team.

But I think Schoon like – I think Schoon's a little bit better than McEwen when it's coming out. I think both really good tight ends. I think Schoon's going to have a really good career in the NFL. Just got an engineering degree. Talk about a fallback plan, dude. That's insane. It's amazing. Absolutely. All right.

Well, let's wrap it up here. Tanner, appreciate you joining. Shout out to Brandon Justice as well. We're excited about everything that you guys are going to do to bring to Blue by 90. It's going to be so much fun having you guys join us here, whether it's a little bit of writing, some podcasting, some video, whatever it is, you guys are pros, pros, pros. That's for sure.

I love that. Yeah, I'm excited. Appreciate you guys are are are pros pros pros that's for sure oh i love that yeah i'm i'm excited uh appreciate you guys having me on uh i almost feel like i'm like hopping on something that's like sacred so uh you know i'll share a little story when i met my wife she wasn't my wife at the time i was like wow i'm gonna marry that girl when i met you guys like damn i'm gonna pod i'm gonna pod with the boys you know like that was the vibe um but no it's been so great you know i moved to ann arbor for those that don't know um this past spring and so got to know these guys really well and was like man this is this is what i want to do to be able to do it on the side in addition to you know my day job and be able to have some some good and bad takes on michigan football and other

sports like it's gonna be awesome so i'm really looking forward to it. Do some writing, some videos, some pods, whatever you, you know, what you said, Justin, and we're going to get after, we have some good ideas and you know, we've got to brainstorm some more, but it's going to be a lot of fun. Keep growing this thing, man. Absolutely. As Tyler, as my man, Tyler says, BB 90 to the moon, to the moon. Oh, I miss that guy. I'm going to need that guy to just come out like the same way

he would for a tailgate like leave at five in the morning and like drive out to east michigan from from west michigan and just party it up absolutely i was with him uh my brother got married on saturday so we were there and just we were just raging uh all night saturday night on the dance floor it was i mean we we were shirtless by the end of the night. How did the speech go? Speech went well. Got a lot of good feedback. Made people cry.

Is that a, you know? It's a W. It's a W. Any good jokes? Any good jokes in there? I did have some good jokes. Had some good digs at them. But I think people were people were

expecting the jokes but not expecting the tears you know so um that's where you the one crying i did cry what during it i did cry during it but other people cried with me okay okay other people cried with me um i'm one of those people where if I see somebody else cry, I start crying. Yeah, for sure. So that's definitely most of it. Cheat code. Yeah. But I think it is.

So did I cheat by just starting to cry? You got everybody who's like, check. I think that's a smart move. I think that's a good move. You brought the emotion. You brought the emotion. Yeah, it worked. smart move. I think that's a good move. You brought the emotion. Yeah, it worked. I know.

I think everyone was expecting me to just joke the whole time. And I did joke like 90% of the time. But the final 10% was some tears flowing. And I think I caught everybody off guard. So it was good. But not that anybody's gonna like tell me to my face that my speech was bad but i i did get good feedback on it so uh speech sucks yeah like i don't know if like nobody's actually said that to somebody i didn't

cry once yeah i think uh i didn't feel every emotion on the spectrum. But it was good. I mean, we raged all night, which was awesome. Listen, there are a lot of places that Blue by 90 are going to go. One of them is to the moon. One of them absolutely is to the moon. Beautiful. Cool. Appreciate you, boys.

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