Blue By Ninety - Michigan and BB90 Head to Chicago

Episode Date: November 13, 2025

Justin and Tanner discuss Michigan’s upcoming trip to Wrigley Field. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right. Welcome back to Blue By 90 presented by Feldman Chevrolet of Highland. I'm Justin joined by Tanner today. And we are back after a little bi-week action. Much needed buy-week with, you know, some injuries. And just I think a good like little reset. I feel like you've got a big time three-game stretch here towards the end of the season where we're in a must-win situation, right? So I think it came, you know, first of all, I love the two buys. I don't like, I don't like having buys in general because I love watching Michigan football. I'd love if we played every Saturday. But I think it just helps with everybody to take a little breather, fans, players, coaches, whatever. So, but I'm pumped to be back, especially, I mean, huge weekend. We're going to freaking Wrigley Field. This is awesome.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Yeah, I definitely love watching Michigan football too. uh sometimes the biweek's nice to reset you know watch some other games as you know when we tailgate like it's an all day endeavor it's not everyone can do what we do you know even doing games you're you're missing the first part of the slate of the games so it was just nice to watch some other teams and uh i'm excited for this weekend man it's going to be awesome got to figure out parking valet is a little pricey at the hotel we're at so i got to figure out what that looks like Chicago, Chicago turns out not a cheap place to be. Well, fun fact, I'm pretty sure that the city of Chicago sold its rights to
Starting point is 00:01:35 parking to Saudi Arabia, so they just can charge whatever. I don't know if you do that or not. If there's anybody that wants to correct me, that's fine. I just have seen that. Not a great business deal. Yeah. Yeah, that's a wild thing to do. Not sure on the terms of that one.
Starting point is 00:01:52 But either way, I'm excited. I mean, I think that it's, A, is just like a cool thing. Like, I'd rather do this. I mean, one, obviously, I am a proponent of play college football games on college campuses. No doubt about that. Like, we don't need everything, including the Wolverine Deacon Challenge, to be a challenge. You know, I'd love to see that played at Chrysler and at Wake Forest. But it was the second game of the class.
Starting point is 00:02:21 I mean, it's a long, longstanding 12-month tradition of the, the Wolverine Deacon Challenge. So which shout out to the boys, you know, and Dusty for getting a dub. It wasn't always pretty, but we got a basketball squad. So shout out to them. We'll talk about them in a minute here. But I think this is like if you are going to play not at a,
Starting point is 00:02:47 at a super historic place that is like a super cool venue, not the Mercedes-Benz dome in Atlanta for every, you know, every non-conference game. Yeah, this is one of those off-campus games that actually just makes a ton of sense. It's the most logical option for Northwestern football. But can I just say, did you watch the Oregon Northwestern game by chance or any Northwestern home game this year? I mean, it would have been an election. Wouldn't it be awesome? There's like 1,200 seats, but right on the shores of Lake Michigan, can you imagine that game in November?
Starting point is 00:03:23 I mean, that would be unbelievable. First of all, the weather is supposed to be like mid-60s for Saturday, which is crazy for Chicago in mid-November. But when they play at that, like, at their practice facility, it looks like a backyard baseball game. Like, that's what it looks like. If you could fit like 20,000 people, though, that would have been an awesome venue for Michigan to be at.
Starting point is 00:03:51 But Wrigley's going to be pretty sweet. I mean, I think just in general, like Chicago being such a Big Ten hub and a Michigan alum and fan hub, like, I just think this weekend's going to be awesome. It's going to be so much fun to be, I love going to away games no matter what, because it's like, you know, you're on the road. You're friends with every single person who's wearing the same colors as you are. But I mean, this one, like, it's a no doubter that it's just going to be majority Michigan fans. Yeah, I think it's always that way, you know, whether it's against Northwestern, whether it's, you know, like basketball when they're in Los Angeles for the NCAA tournament, right? Like all these different hubs of the United States.
Starting point is 00:04:34 I just have a ton of Michigan alums. So, yeah, I'm super excited. This will be my second time at Wrigley still have yet to see a baseball game at the friendly confines. Wow. I mean, that's going to be some sort of like. That's a football guy right there. That's a football guy. First one's a concert.
Starting point is 00:04:50 This one's a football game. so yeah but I can't wait it's obviously a historic venue one of the one of the coolest sporting stadiums in the world in the country you know Wrigleyville is awesome we'll talk about that a little in a little bit but yeah man I'm just really excited to get to Chicago you know took some PTO on Friday going to head on over you know get some food check out the city a little bit I love Chicago is one of my favorite places there's just so much to do um like I think our hotel is like at a really good spot in downtown and so maybe not for Saturday morning getting there but we'll figure it out and I just I'm excited for
Starting point is 00:05:29 this weekend yeah 100% so so yeah I want to talk about what we're doing this weekend before we get into like actually talking about the game so Friday night we are at sluggers it's a Rick's takeover we're partnering up with Champion Circle our good friends over there so we've got an NIL of event. All the proceeds are going to Champion Circle of everything that, you know, ticket sales, all that stuff. We've got a silent auction going. We're going to be doing a live podcast. We're going to have a ton of people join. I know Jared Wengler is going to join us to talk about NIL. Ian Bunting is going to talk a little bit of, you know, former football, talk about fam. We'll just have a
Starting point is 00:06:14 bunch of people. They're possibly press, possibly Dave Portnoy. I'm not guaranteeing anything, but he did post about it. So, you know, set it on FS1. I mean, that's got to be the first time, I think, that one of, like, an event that we're involved in has been mentioned on live TV, like cable TV. Yeah, you're probably right. I don't think unless you just, you're generous and include the broader athletic events that we go to.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Yeah. Then you're stretching it a little bit. Yeah. So you're probably right. Either way. Pretty cool. But it's going to be awesome. And I know they're working on like having Rick's fish bowls there. They've got their recipes come in. And we're going to have Woods and Whiskey there as well, which is huge. So we'll have the Heisman available, which I've seen you have a few Heismans, Tanner. And I know those get dangerous. I'm going to be honest. Look, man, I've had whatever, whatever Woods and Whiskey options are at the bar. I just, you know, I sample them throughout the day, whether that's the Heisman, you know, whether that's some of the other options. Sometimes I'll have them put the maize and blitz in, right? You know, sometimes I want a cinnamon, old-fashioned. Sometimes I want a cinnamon, whiskey sour.
Starting point is 00:07:32 So it just depends on the day and time. They're all good. Could be, you know, at noon if it's a night game, like, against Purdue. Like, you know what? I'm going to sip this a little bit. And then at 430, I've been drinking for six hours. And you know what? Maybe let's make it a double.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Who knows? that's when the possible bad decisions come into play. Yeah, they start going to the DJ, show to my Spotify, like, hey, can you play this Sabrina Carpenter for me, you know, whatever. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. But, no, Friday night at Sluggers is going to be awesome.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Six to 10. Our podcast is going to be seven to eight there, but we'll be there all night hanging, so come hang out with us. It's got to be our biggest live audience ever, right? I would have to. I'm a little nervous already. Yeah, I mean, well, come on. We had Charles Woodson on.
Starting point is 00:08:19 We did live with him. It was, I mean. It was like seven minutes. Yeah, right? Like, we fill 60 minutes. 60 minutes. I can, I can like, I can talk for a while. But we'll be right.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Well, we will probably, spoiler alert, we don't really like plan for any of these podcasts. We just kind of get on here and babble. We might have to plan for that one. As you know, working with Jordan Stratt, Chris Wormwood, a couple of pros, pros. Yes. When I produced one of the episodes,
Starting point is 00:08:53 Jordan's like, hey, I just emailed you the PDF I use. And it's just like a bunch of notes. I'm like, what is this? What are you doing, man? You got to shoot from the hip like us. That's why he's, you know, in the profession and we're just a couple of guys. What is a run of show? I've never heard of that before.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I've no idea. And then I just used it. I ended up using it for a blue by the numbers. This is great. Like, you just send me years every week. We'll just use it because it's all the stats, everything. This is great. I will say I got to give Jordan a shout out, and Caleb, I think helped her with some graphic design.
Starting point is 00:09:25 They're even printing us up some cue cards for this weekend. So different Jordan. We have too many Jordans. True. Sorry. Not Jordan's track. Not Jordan. No, Jordan and Caleb, they do so much behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:09:38 And if you guys see him at tailgates, give him a drink. Yeah. Give him a shot. Give us some love. Give him a hug. talk to Caleb about the Cups or which big weekend for Caleb big week of big week of big weekend for Caleb um but anyways uh so Friday night at sluggers here's where this is where it could get a little dicey for us is we've got that event at sluggers on Friday night and then we got
Starting point is 00:10:04 to be at Duffy's by like 730 a.m. at the latest on Saturday morning uh do you know what's going on Friday night at nine o'clock Eastern time? What's that? Michigan basketball plays TCU. That's, I mean, that's. So we're going to have to figure it out. We are going to have to figure that out. I think that's going to be, it's going to be a hair of the dog morning for sure,
Starting point is 00:10:29 where I'm going to get to Duffy's, order another Heisman of What's in Whiskey the next morning, and we just start ripping from right there. And it's also central time. So we basically get an hour. So that game is actually 8 o'clock, right? So when we get up. We've got to be there at, you know, 7.7.30. It's actually 8.8.30 and then we're around. We're basically time traveling at this point. Pretty much.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Yeah. I love it. So, but it's going to be a hell of a weekend. I want to give shout out to FAM to the football alumni of Michigan. If you can't make it to Duffies, they've got an event going on at Mo's Cantina as well. So, you know, supporting FAM is also something we love to do here at Blue by 90 as well. So check them out. mo's is definitely if you're trying to stick right around the stadium that's that's the spot to go um duffies is a little farther out but um where it's like a it's like a 10 minute drive we're gonna take ubers and get as far as we can and you know what if it's 65 and sunny i i don't really give a shit that's it's gonna be fucking awesome so um so yeah um all right let's talk about the game a little bit um sneaky i think all of a sudden like kind of good game Are you nervous?
Starting point is 00:11:47 No. All right. They're five and four. You know, we haven't had a, you and I haven't talked really since the post-MSU pod with the bye week and, you know, I had work travel and all these sorts of things. So when I talked to Brian, I actually looked it up. I don't know if you knew this. And obviously yards don't equate the points. And Ohio State beat Purdue by 24, Michigan beat by five.
Starting point is 00:12:11 But Michigan actually held Purdue to the same yards. play defensively and had more yards for play on offense or maybe it was the other way around either way they were about equal with with Purdue so you know for Michigan it's really more so where I'm nervous is just make the right decisions right I'm hoping after another buy week that Bryce is going to come back and we're going to see some improvement because we saw a big jump after the first buy week in his play and it kind of regressed a little bit so that's where I'm a little bit nervous, right? Like, I think defensively, Michigan is really kind of coming into its own.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And I just think that with this team, the offensive line, the run game, I think, it's been really good. It's just the past game, right? And you have a true freshman quarterback who's extremely talented. You can have to figure that out. That's the only area that I'm, like, a little nervous about. But I think Michigan is going to win by two or three scores. Yeah, I mean, I will say, though, their losses are not.
Starting point is 00:13:13 bad losses like Tulane is a good good ball club uh that they lost to in the opener lost to Oregon who was obviously very good lost to Nebraska who has played some good ball um also some not so good ball and then lost to USC and I know I mean they don't really have they did beat Penn State um you know basically during their collapse um which is probably their like one good win um but i i mean they don't really have a good win but every loss is not like a bad loss you know what i mean so it's an interesting it's interesting to um see i just i don't think here's what i'm going to say i'm also not like sitting here like oh man i'm super worried um but i would say that i'm like i don't want to just write this off as like it's you know to be
Starting point is 00:14:06 honest i felt like we rode off peru and then you look at it it's a five point game and you're like shit you know so i really i i'm trying to and i know i have no effect on the game but i'm trying to treat this as like a solid opponent which i think that they are are decent uh and let's go kick some ass let's go play at a hundred percent you know at a hundred miles an hour let's go win a fucking ball game yeah i mean i think northwestern i think it's interesting because you know obviously it's hard to know you know two months ago completely team right but they got beat up by Tulane and Tulane's not a bad team but Tulane did
Starting point is 00:14:44 just get smoked by UTSA the week after them Tulane Northwestern game Tulane beat South Alabama 31 or 33 31 so like you know they basically lost to every good team on their schedule and then found a way to win some games you know that Penn State game was pretty ugly but they found a way to win it so yeah I don't know I think it's going to be
Starting point is 00:15:04 to your point potentially a game where you're a little clenched like you were against Purdue and But you, here's, I'm going to say this right now, like, you can't be. If you, if you want to get momentum going into these last three weeks, going into Ohio State, Maryland, like, you need to have the pedal on the freaking metal. That's just where I'm at right now. Like, I am looking for everything to be, like, in sync.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I, you know, listen, I'm not trying to be this guy that's like, all right, we, you know, it's time, like, you know, it's Bryce's time or whatever, but like, it had, we can only say, oh, he's a freshman quarterback for so long, you know, I think it's like you've had a significant portion of the season, and this is not all on Bryce. So I just want to make that very clear. But like, the offense as a whole, and you're like, all right, it's time to let this passing game click. And you can't just like milk the run game forever and ever, although we have in the past. But I wanted to start. start clicking. That's what I'm based. That's where I'm at. Well, I would just like to say, you know, blowing out Northwestern two weeks before the Ohio State Michigan game does always work out.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Last year, two weeks to the day before Michigan played Ohio State of Columbus. Ohio State beat Northwestern 31-7. A week later, Michigan beat Northwestern 50 to 6. So maybe the secret is to not beat them two weeks before. It's to beat them a week before. Oh, you know what I mean? So I don't know if we can. Can we move this game? I feel like it's a lot. I feel like we're a lot. did with Wrigley. I don't know what they're going on. I don't know what to fly over, but... We'd have to really pull some stuff here. I'm going to be honest, I started to, like, troll, and I was like, oh, wait, Michigan played them the week after Ohio State played them.
Starting point is 00:16:54 So, but to your point, though, like, remember after the Northwestern game, we were not necessarily confident, but it was like, hey, Michigan found something, right? So you have this game, and then you go to Maryland, and then you come back home for senior your day and the most important game on the schedule every single year so to your point can you find some things offensively because i think the i mean the run game's what 250 and 270 the last two games and jordan marshall looks to be an absolute dog like he's got some of that blake quorum ability that we've talked about and now he's got the again it's Purdue and michigan state but he's got some of that breakaway ability um so i think the run game the offensive line man these kids
Starting point is 00:17:34 they're all like red shirt soft or freshman like they're coming they're not only are they coming but they're here i like i mean you if you look at the data like i'm not a big like analytical guy to be honest with you but like there are some some there's some data out there about our offensive line that they're really freaking good and our run game is unbelievable and it's not i think jordan marshall is amazing i think justice haines was amazing but it's it starts up front obviously so I think that like here's what I mean we've talked about this in the past like I'm really really excited about the future of our offensive line and our offense in general but like right now like let's let's put it together and I think you know let's be honest I think I want to get this mixed up because I don't want to say like oh we need to go throw for 350 yards and four touchdowns right but I would like to throw for like 200 some yards and two touchdowns while we run for two touchdowns and 200 as well. You know, so that's kind of what I'm looking for is just like a little more,
Starting point is 00:18:39 a little bit more balance so that we aren't just sitting here after this game, like the same way that we were after both MSU and Purdue. And we're like, okay, well, I guess we're going to have to run the shit out of the ball forever and ever and ever. You know, I want to have some momentum. I want Bryce to get in a rhythm and feel good coming out of this game. we've seen it though like we've seen momentum we've seen him get into rhythm and then it just kind of fell off a cliff against michigan state because the Washington game was his best game of the year.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And then it just kind of took a nosedive against Michigan State. So I don't know. I think you're just going to see that from your, I know you hate hearing it, but you're true freshman quarterback because, yeah, like I agree. And I said this on one of our other shows this week. But, you know, by the time he plays Ohio State, he's going to have played 11 games. Right. But so he's a freshman, but he's not necessarily a freshman,
Starting point is 00:19:33 but also he doesn't have that, you know, nine months of an off season to grow, to work on his game, to learn, and get better. So, like, yeah, he's played a lot of games, experiences and valuable, but he's still going to have some growing pains to go through. But, man, I'll tell you what, I think with this, with his running offense, you can finish a year, 3 and 0, right? Like, you've got to play really well, but you can do it. So, yeah, it's going to be interesting.
Starting point is 00:20:02 I mean, it's going to be, like you said, a nice day, mild, actually probably warm, maybe you know 65 i mean i don't know but for in november that's t-shirt rather brother well 65 degrees regardless you know you go somewhere like that's normally warm and it's a little colder you see the locals with with coach you see people midwest they're just flip-flop yeah but it's going to be you know 10 to 20 degrees uh or 10 to 20 mile an hour winds so just looking at the weather channel also uh sunset at 430 that sounds depressing is that what like central I know we're right on the edge. Yeah, I, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:42 So same if you're out of east like Boston. I think the sun sets at like that time, you know what I mean? So yeah, it's going to be, you know, more nighttime, I guess, to go do whatever after the game. Hey, well, the darkness will be upon us. But no, I think, I mean, that is crazy that like it's a, well, it's an 11 a.m. game and only an hour after the game, it's going to, the sunset. The sun's going to set. Yeah, it's just starting to be dark at, you know, fourth quarter. Like, it's a 3.30 game at the best.
Starting point is 00:21:12 That's crazy. Let's talk about the defense for a second. I think that this is where, like, I mean, I'm just, I am still looking, you know, it's kind of funny because after the USC game, everybody is just like, you know, all right, it's time. Wink's got to go, blah, blah, blah. And then you're sitting here, you know, in week 10. And they're like, oh, shit, actually, our defense is still really good.
Starting point is 00:21:41 And Wink has a pretty damn good track record here at Michigan. So where are you at with what you want to see from the defense, not only in this game, but in the last three? Yeah, I think I want to see a tighter rotation, especially up front. I think the drop off when you go from a guy like Derek Moore. And obviously, Jay Sean Barham is kind of a chess piece that you can maneuver around the defense. so I don't necessarily consider him a true edge.
Starting point is 00:22:08 But the dropout from Derek Moore and T.J. Guy, really, to anybody else is pretty substantial at this point. And it's not even just like they're bad players, but they just are not as consistent. There's more mistakes. There's a lot of times that you'll see, you know, a play that should be a sack or, you know, a short gain and there's just bad pursuit angles or we're getting up field and allowing the quarterback to get outside the pocket from some of the younger players. Yeah, I mean, at linebacker, obviously, there's no choice against Purdue because you have all the injuries. But even in the secondary sometimes, I'm like, you know, I would like to see Zeke and Jair get,
Starting point is 00:22:50 they're getting the majority of the snaps, but like I don't necessarily need some of these other guys that are playing at the moment. Especially when you just think about Ohio State, you know what I mean? Yeah, right. If we're talking Ohio State for sure, I wanted to ask you, like, do you think that, he has done that to for the future do you think he's done that for depth so that like if we do have injuries you know at some point throughout the season which you're you're 10 weeks in obviously so you know at this point but um do you think that does like when you get to an Ohio state type game that he just like completely tightens that up and it's like all right we're going to
Starting point is 00:23:28 get our rotation in yeah I mean the only thing I can really think is like just development because yeah you want to see what guys have but to your point like we're 10 weeks in or 12 weeks in have 10 data points of football games to be able to see what guys are and obviously players are going to improve but maybe not in two weeks right so yeah I just like just thinking about the rest of the season through the lens of the Ohio State game like I really again if Michigan's up 31 nothing okay that's fine but like against Purdue you're up you're up four right like in the second half what if yeah yeah Yeah, I agree with that, holy, for sure.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Like, if you, if Michigan doesn't go get a first down, you know, by running the ball and that last possession, all of a sudden, you have to punt and a touchdown beats you, right? So I agree with you there. You played with the food a little too much in that game. Yeah, for sure. I think that, like, let me, I'll say this point in a second, but going back to just wink and those guys,
Starting point is 00:24:35 like what do you think what do you think about Ryan Day uh like he came out and was like yeah we're like you know we haven't really put our our foot on the gas completely but we're ready to ramp it up like I have two questions one is there like is Michigan doing that a little bit too with with both sides of the ball or and the second question is just your thoughts on Ryan Day saying that it's a little bit easier to say that when you've been pretty dominant throughout the year right um but also like i don't know man you kind of want to practice that like oh we're gonna like what does that even mean like i don't understand what that actually entails like are you going to try to score more points like you aren't score you're like not
Starting point is 00:25:22 trying to score every play like i mean not that you're trying to throw a hail mary every play but like i i mean if every coach out there is not trying to score as many points and give up as few points as possible, then what are you doing? Yeah, so I don't necessarily understand that, you know, and I don't know if that's maybe referring to saying, continuing to learn the play, but I don't know, man. Because I think it's one thing with like some of the things that have come out about Michigan from Biff or whoever of like, oh, we got to, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:53 can't take the air out of blah, blah, blah, blah. But it's like, that's by necessity, right? Like, so I don't necessarily understand what they mean or what he means by that. I just saw it and was like, again, I don't know what that means. Yeah, it's just like a weird thing. I mean, unless you are going, like you said, like unless you're prepping to put up, you know, go back to 62 points on Michigan or something, you know, if you're actually going to hang 100, you know, whatever, like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:26:25 it just feels weird of you like holding back, you know, anything. I mean, a lot of people have talked about, like, I think just in general, I think the dumb thing that this is like a myth in college football that you like hold things back for your rival, like later in the year. And you do. Obviously. Like trick stuff. Yeah, but it's not like you're like not trying to win games every game. Like you're not like, hey, we actually scored 20. We could have scored 35, but we didn't want to let Ohio State know that we could score 35.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Like, yes, you are setting things up throughout the year with different plays or you're waiting to show something until that game for sure. But I think it's like if you asked a college football coach, like, hey, are you like, are you like, you know, not showing stuff? Are you saving stuff for that game? They'd be like, no, we're running our offense. We're running our defense. Like this is how this works and you progress through the year or throughout the season, right? like that's that's my take on that i think it's kind of a dumb like myth thing yeah i think more so what happens is you have things that you show on film and then you have things that kind of
Starting point is 00:27:36 counter off of that right of different not even just trick plays but like different you know just different ways the play can shape out on the same personnel right and and it's a it's a it's a trap play for example out of the run run fits or whatever so or like i mean this is a this is like a very basic example but it's like okay we ran sweep out of this you know 50 times well we're going run sweep reverse you break tendencies right it's a game where you break tendencies more than like you just have things like yeah of course like michigan had the has had multiple uh passes from donovan edwards against ohio state right and they had the thing last year to Kendrick, was it Kendrick Bell that threw it? I think it had a PI. So you had
Starting point is 00:28:25 Kelle Mullings throwing the ball in 2022. Like you just, you had the Alex Orgy Pack into 23. So like you have, and Donovan Edwards threw a pass in that game as well to, so I think it was Loveland that, you know, was late in that game and got them a fuel goal. So you, you have all these smaller things that kind of come up in there, you know, maybe a huge play, but they're a very small part of what you're actually hiding, right? But, and we've seen Michigan kind of come out with some things like against Nebraska. They've had the bubble screens. And that's, I'm sure that Matt Patricia's, when he's coming into this week, like, hey, just
Starting point is 00:29:03 know that on this bubble, they did throw it against Nebraska, right? Like, you have all those sorts of things. So, but it's just a, it's a chess match is what it's going to be. And Wink won last year. That was one of the best defensive performances I've ever seen at Michigan. By far. Wink like outsmarted literally everybody in that whole stadium that day. I think, well, I think it was more so that he was just very basic. And so that's one thing that I didn't mention earlier.
Starting point is 00:29:34 What I want to see from Wink is a continued, just basic defense. Like you don't need to be exotic. You don't need to come up with the blitzes. Now, I do think Ryan Day has learned his lesson. And I don't know if he's just going to run into a five or six man box again. But here's the thing, Justin, Ohio State can't really run the football. I know, I know. They average 4.5 yards in a tent, which is not, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:29:57 It's not great. I know. I think that if they, I don't know. That to me is like, I think a conundrum where, first of all, I think Ryan Day just puckers up no matter what because it is the game, right? And I think last year he tried to like out, he tried to like outsmart himself a little bit right where he's like you know all right we got to get back to running the ball we got to establish it blah blah blah and then we just had mason graham and kenneth grant eat everything right there and he was
Starting point is 00:30:30 like well what's happening so if they try to do that again to try to establish it like we're going to take it but there's no way that he does that right like there's no way that he does that um unfortunately i think they did have a coming to jesus moment which has worked out for them um but again who knows maybe in those big moments you revert to what what you've done in the past, right? So I don't know because it's weird. Like they throw the ball over the place. And then the last couple of years, like they've come in
Starting point is 00:30:59 and they just, I don't know. They just haven't been able. You know, with Stroud, they still wanted to throw the ball, but Michigan was just able to come up with some big stops. But in 23 and 24, like, they really wanted to set the tone and run the ball. And they've had like one drive in the last two games where they were actually able to run the ball.
Starting point is 00:31:17 and have success and get a touchdown. Otherwise, they got shut down completely. Well, and I think then they just like, here's what I would say. I think Ryan Day is to passing the ball, as Shero Moore is to running the ball. And it's just like, when nothing's working, all right, we're going to run power.
Starting point is 00:31:34 That's Jerome Moore. And then when Ryan Day is like nothing's working, all right, we're going to run a crossing route. Or I'm just going to throw it to Jeremiah. I'm also against Michigan. I don't understand. So that's the thing. like they did he learn his lesson because i think you replay that game last year and if they just
Starting point is 00:31:51 like throw the ball every time like they probably have a much better shot of winning than trying to run into mason graham and kenneth grant i mean yeah also by the way uh ohio state is 69th in the country in rushing offense michigan is 11th like 60 9th with an offensive line that is unbelievable in a passing game that is insane to set it up like and with good running backs. Like, I don't think they have bad, I think that, I don't think they're, Freshman's good, Bo Jackson. Yeah. The other guys don't do anything for me. I know, but they're good enough. Like, they, I'm telling you, like, they would be good enough behind that offensive line. Like, that's an elite offensive line. That's what I'm saying. Hey, Bryson Cousdall is average
Starting point is 00:32:34 a 5.3 yards and a 10, you know what I mean? So. Throw him in. Throw him in. Shout out Bryson Cuzzol, too, because he runs the ball for him. Dude, I, I love that for him. But, I mean, that was like very reassuring for me because you just don't know when you get down to your third and fourth string guys. I think both him and Parker is serviceable. You know, Parker's a true freshman. I thought he had some decent runs against Purdue. Cousdall had two really nice runs that led to a first down on that. I believe it was that last drive to help milk the clock, which is, I don't know what's going on with justice. I mean, there's been a lot of message board stuff and we've heard things and other people have heard
Starting point is 00:33:17 things I can't imagine he's going to be back in Michigan uniform unless Michigan makes a playoff so I I would agree with I don't know I don't know anything um I don't know anything but I mean there's just how how many foot surgeries can you have broken foot surgeries essentially that can you have with, you know, and then be back three weeks later, four weeks later. Like, they're just- They have more than one? No, I'm saying- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm saying how many of those injuries out there exist where you are back in a month, you know?
Starting point is 00:33:54 I mean, I don't know. I don't know either. But Jordan Marshall, man, is looking apart. So to your point, obviously the run game, I think, is really hitting its stride. You want to see the past game because obviously being complimentary and being able to hit on play action open up the middle of the field for bryce make things easier on him um i think would be huge so and they could just play off one another right the run game in the past game like you obviously have have to play action but also like if you're getting beat through the air the thing you do is you
Starting point is 00:34:23 spread out a little bit you bring in a nickel or dime package so you have more corners on the field and then you can have your uh you know your your road graders get out and get to the second level and have an easier block so um yeah obviously that's football no shit but but But it would be nice to see. It would be nice to see. I also want to see, like, and we, this is like, feel like we're banging our head against the wall, to be honest here. But I want to see Bryce pull it, you know.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I think we're sitting here, obviously, like, number one goal is have Bryce healthy for Ohio State, right? That gives us the best chance to win. There's no doubt about that. But you have to have him be, you know, involved in the run game. for this Michigan offense to be at its peak. And so that's what I'm looking for too. And I think there's a way
Starting point is 00:35:15 to do that and still be safe. Right. Like obviously, you're prone to getting hurt on every play in football. That's just the reality. You know? And so if he can pull it and then just like if we just have a rule for him, it's like, hey man,
Starting point is 00:35:31 like you just got to get down. Like don't try to get an extra yard. Don't try to jump over anybody don't try to take you know i love i loved it when he did it the first game or whatever that i can't remember what game it was where he lowered lowered his shoulder but like don't do that you know like we need you so i i'd love to see him get involved in that um while still being super safe yeah i mean i think you know just a couple of runs over the next two games uh each is fine with me um yeah i'm with you keeping him healthy i mean the alternative is not great
Starting point is 00:36:05 a quarterback in terms of whoever it is because Davis is still hurt. Like, shout out Davis. He dressed. He's dressed. And that was great to see. But, yeah, Bryce, like, that's, I mean, unless Mikey Keen, I don't know what's going on with that, to be honest. So I think, let's just hope Bryce is okay.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Let's just keep him up, right. Here's what I'm going to say is whether, you know, regardless of the talent of any of those guys, they literally haven't taken a snap. So other than Jaden Davis. So I'm, you know, I would rather have the guy that's taken basically all the snaps than guys that have taken less than 1% of the snaps. That's going to be where we're at. I think the biggest thing here for me that I am looking to see in this ballgame,
Starting point is 00:36:54 I alluded to it earlier a little bit, but you can't just get up by 14 points and milk the clock in the second half. And even if it's in the first half, whatever. Put the foot on the gas and try to go win a ball game 38 to 10. That's what I want to see. I want to see this team be able to pull away and, you know, convert when it's like, okay, our defense just got to stop for the, you know, X amount time. Let's go get, let's go score here. Yeah, I'm with you. I think that's one thing from the Jim Harbaugh era I would like to get away from is just that unless it's like, you know, 35 nothing, whatever, that's fine. Unless you're the Python, unless you can do the Python thing.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Yeah, if you go to 8 minute drive, like remember the Michigan Rutgers game in 23 at the big house and it was 20, or it was 31-7 with like 9 minutes left and they just ran a clock out. Yeah, dude, that that shit's cool. Like I love taking somebody's will. But it was also, you know, basically a three and a half score game, right, because it's 24 points and nobody's getting three straight. Two-point conversions.
Starting point is 00:38:00 So, but yeah, I would like to see, you know, a little more aggression. I did like that in the Michigan State game, right? I mean, I know you're running the ball, but, you know, George Marshall breaks one. He doesn't go down against Purdue, he does, right? Like, I like that. But yeah, man. No, I'm just, I don't care, like, I'm not a box score watcher,
Starting point is 00:38:21 so I'm not sitting here like, oh, you know, you need to cover the spread or it needs to be, it needs to look like a good win. Although it does help because, you know, who are box score watchers are the freaking college football playoff committee because they don't actually know ball um so you do low key kind of need to do that uh to you know give yourself a chance now michigan's in the position where it's like you either win or you don't and you know there's
Starting point is 00:38:46 there's really no other option um but i i i just want i want us to feel like like i want this team to leave rigley on saturday and feel like okay we just pummeled somebody we felt really good doing it and then that just the you know sports are weird man momentum break you know goes into Sunday which goes into Monday at practice and then you just like you build on it every freaking day and so I think you know there's just like after that Purdue game and even after the end of the MSU game like you're sitting there like I know it probably happens way more on the message boards and with fans rather than in the locker room but there's something to that of like hey man we just beat the
Starting point is 00:39:31 shit out of them let's like we look good doing it we felt good doing it let's go do it again yeah i'm with you man um i can we pivot i there's something i want to talk about yeah let's hear can we can we just have a good laugh about our friends down the road the hammer was coming all along spiro the dude with the third eye pyramid profile picture um that whole crew i don't know those i just come up on my twitter because twitter sucks now because you just get all this nonsense uh just just i'll be honest i was working and uh i didn't see it until it got set to our group chat uh that's hilarious also i was going to tweet the exact same thing from the account before i looked um because i was like i don't
Starting point is 00:40:23 know what is worse getting three years of wins vacated or three years of wins equaling 14 i don't know what's worse or like honestly the reminder that it was that bad that you only won 14 games in three years might be worse um but that was just so funny that like you're sitting here like oh they got these wins vacated there wasn't a significant win in the three years there was do you know what it is what the season opener in 2023 against the central michigan chipawah Carter Stallions is that is the funniest shit I've heard it is that is that is a significant win I mean the the the full circle moment to that game being being actually called a no contest is so funny and counter Stallions is literally on Twitter right now like running laps around everybody I mean just unbelievable the way that this turned out I mean, this is, you can, I'm sure people are, like, actually mad on MSU message boards and whatever. I'm sure, but, like, I think it is objectively funny, a very funny outcome because of.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Maybe stealing science does help, you know, now CMU technically didn't, well, I guess, I think CMU still gets, so any of the teams that they beat still have the loss on the record, MSU just doesn't have the win. Okay. So they finish, what, 0 and 8 last? year and now and now Jonathan Smith poor guy I mean honestly honestly poor guy he's sitting here like already probably going to be fired has zero wins technically by the record books
Starting point is 00:42:11 in his in his tenure at Michigan State zero big 10 wins sorry and and they have like recruiting violations up the wazoo now so like you're honest to God like I don't feel bad for Spartans very often. There are a select few that aren't total assholes out there that I actually kind of feel bad because your program's just like, it doesn't get worse than this, man. You're already like just that you have zero momentum about anything in the program.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Now you, you're still trying to figure out the Mel Tucker situation. You are going to have to have a buyout of Jonathan Smith, which is going to be very costly, unless you can figure out that this is a you know cause thing i don't know uh and in the future you the new coach whoever it is comes in already with recruiting violations and a you're like half hand tied your back tied behind your back it's just amazing i mean there's only one other thing that could happen in terms of like this that would just and you know what you guess what that is um the other school involved i should say uh yeah yeah it's just hilarious man um You know, the same people that were just championing the NCAA for the last year and a half, two years until the decision came out.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And now I see a lot of what about this or that. And it's just hilarious because those same people are like, well, you can't say that. You cheated. You can't, you can't say that. Also, did you realize that MSU beat CMU with ConnerSines on the sideline 31 to 7? I didn't. I didn't even know the score of that game. So you mean to tell me that that's what signs do?
Starting point is 00:43:54 right exactly this whole thing is just that that's actually that's a great point and it's the funniest part of it like if um or you know what somebody actually said i thought was that they and this is totally made up i can't imagine that this is true but it was like 14-7 in the second or in the first half and then stallions left at halftime and it ended up being 31 to 7 or something like first well how do you know that like there's no way to know that at all And anyways, it is, it is just objectively funny. You know, it's even funnier. My dad literally just texted me and said, I feel terrible for Sparty with two laughing emojis.
Starting point is 00:44:36 That is the man. That guy just good vibes all around. To be fair to that person, though, it was 10 to 7.5. And then they won 31.7. So I don't know, but I mean, maybe Stallions went to the other side. Maybe. Who's to know? he had the metaverse glasses on he's you know he's in the metaverse you know i don't know maybe they had
Starting point is 00:44:59 like a camera planted maybe they should have like an ipad just like strolling around the sideline like with him facetiming it from a discreet location that might be the move that might be the move is that is that illegal no i i mean can't have an ipad guy on the sideline yeah come on fuck yeah uh but just just hilarious i mean i don't care um michigan won all those games anyway the only way it would been funnier in this in this right now is if 2021 was included because that would have that was like that's the thing though like real quick with the like thinking about vacating wins like does it make you feel better it's funny but that's it louisville's uh 2013 win is vacated in the national championship in basketball versus michigan it's not like i'm like oh we won that game like
Starting point is 00:45:46 i watched the game you know like it's like it doesn't it doesn't matter Luke Hancock. Yeah, I mean, I watched him drill fucking 12 threes on us. It was ridiculous. But no, I'm like, I, it's, it's such a, it's still a stupid thing because it doesn't like mean anything, you know, I mean, if you were to possibly win a title during that and it gets vacated and stripped, like that could be different a little bit, but you still watch the games, you know, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:17 And I think like here, this goes back to my. whole argument on sign stealing is like everybody's doing something man like if you think that your program is clean i'll tell you right now i don't care who you are it's it's not fully clean everyone is doing it you know pushing the boundaries to try and gain an advantage in some fashion in every sport ever yes that is sports business life this is how we are it's human nature it's it's what people will do a lot of shit to to win and gain gain an edge on the competition man so um yeah um and uh yeah so i mean objectively funny uh i think that like the funniest part to me going to to wrap this up put a bow on it is like you have no like this doesn't mean
Starting point is 00:47:14 anything because you never won a significant game. Yeah. Are you even that mad about it? Like you, it doesn't, it doesn't even matter because you were so bad during this time. Like, which is probably why they didn't even fight it. They're like, we're not going to spend money on lawyers right now to like appeal anything, which is like, just give it to us. We don't give a shit. We'll move on.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Like nobody cares. Yeah, it is, uh, you know, they had that Iowa win. They beat Rutgers in this, they beat Illinois in 2022. I mean, hey, they had some wins in there. I mean, actually, Illinois was good in 2022. Yeah, that was, didn't they come back in the C-Locks, the corner, Witherspoon. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's a stud.
Starting point is 00:48:02 They had some really good ballplayers. Yeah. So, just, you know, I don't know, man. Remember the 14. Remember the 14. It's the week of the 50th anniversary of the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. I still, I bought John E. Bacon's book, The Gales of November. I've read a couple of pages.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I'm going to get to it. That's been, that's big of you. I'm really, I'm really proud of you for reading those pages. That's pretty cool. Yeah. So remember the 14 in the same way that you remember. Remember that? Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Hang the banner. All right. Let's end on a good note here. I do want to say for Purdue, we put out some stuff, obviously, that, you know, Luke from Dream on 3, and his dream did come true. And I got to just say, like, it was one of the more awesome experiences that I've ever to be, been involved in. And I want to give a shout out to Cheryl Moore and his assistant page and every coach.
Starting point is 00:49:14 I just want to say, like, so we, just to give you an idea of what happened. So, you know, we obviously had Donovan on here, and he kind of surprised Luke with that he was coming to practice. And then we went to practice on Friday before the Purdue game. And it was just unbelievable. Like, I had some expectations of like, oh, like, I've been to practice and like, you know, you stand on the sideline. And, like, I was like, oh, they're going to, you know, a couple, like, I was like,
Starting point is 00:49:42 oh, maybe, you know, hopefully Bryce and some, and Donovan and some guys will have some time to, like, come over and say hi. Like, that's it. And then, like, before practice, even, you know, we're getting a tour. Sharon brings us into his office. Biff Pogee brings us into his office. And it's just like every coach is taking the time to say hi to Luke and make his day, like make him feel like he is literally a VIP, like the coolest person. ever and then we get to the end of practice donovan actually the one video of him which is so funny of where he was supposed to be out on the field and he was hanging out with luke on the sideline and then he gets yelled at and like sprints away back to uh back to on the field um but so like
Starting point is 00:50:30 guys are coming over all practice long to say hi whatever then we get to the end of practice and chiron brings luke onto the field and brings him into the huddle and that's when bryce kind I took over and is like, all right, we're running this play. You line up next to me. I'm going to hand it off to you. You're going to go score a touchdown. And like, I just want, this is hard for me to describe. I know a lot of people saw it on social media, but like, I've seen those where,
Starting point is 00:50:57 you know, they part the sea and whatever. It's always pretty good. Every player was like so dialed in. Like defense is just diving all over the place, you know, in front of him. and Luke's juke in and like the whole team just goes and basically dogpiles him and then lifts him up and like I just can't say enough I mean a the moment was unbelievable to watch like it was like the most heartfelt moment and you all saw that on on Instagram and everything but like can't give enough thanks to the coaching staff the players everybody in that building
Starting point is 00:51:32 who just like took so much more time than they really needed to with Luke and um just a really cool moment. So I want to, I want to say thank you and just, uh, we then went on Saturday, got to go on the field pregame. All the guys came over, said what up to Luke. Sharon came over, gave him a hug, all this stuff. Then we sat on the 50 R line. Um, and Luke had an amazing day. Uh, never seen a more tired kid, uh, walking out of that stadium because he had a hell of a 48 hours. Yeah. Well, so if you go to the Dream on three website and you go to the Dreamers tab, Luke and his story, are right up there.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Yeah, I mean, you know, as a parent, just seeing how much of an impact that I made and just, you know, being able to meet Luke and his family and just how awesome the whole experience was. I mean, you remember this. When Luke was leaving the tailgate, he was hugging everybody. Like, he hugged the entire, just everyone that was at the tailgate. Yeah, it was just really cool. And just having a small part in that, because I know you helped with a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:52:39 but just having a very small part in that was extremely special. And, you know, because I know, for me, being a dad, like how much that would mean to me. So just how cool it was for Luke and his family was awesome, man. So glad he got to go experience that. I was reading a little bit about it and some pinball Pete's, like just the whole works, man, hit up in Ann Arbor, I'm sure got some great food. Obviously, the folks over at the graduate did an amazing thing for us as well on that.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Thank you. Just a huge group effort. Thank you for a small sliver, the part that I played, but it was extremely happy to play it and excited to see how that all went for him. Yeah, I think like to, again, to wrap this up here with that, it's like so many people with like that they didn't have to do what they did and they did it. You know, there wasn't like this big advantage to gain because of it. It was just people doing things out of the kindness of their hearts.
Starting point is 00:53:35 And I think it's just really cool that the people at Michigan football and in the community in Ann Arbor, you know, make that a priority. So we appreciate it. Also, how about is that, is one of those pictures just Sharon give him a hug on the sideline? That's amazing. Yes. Yeah. Isn't that awesome? Like, I mean, seriously, like, they're prepping for a game and like Sharon and Biff are taking time with him like literally minutes before a game, you know, and it was just so cool.
Starting point is 00:54:05 He also, Luke also had, you know, because Chiron's got some nice kicks. Yeah. Pull him out. Luke has some nice Jordan Fores, man. I always compliment him. He was, he had that shit on, man. He was styling. He was styling.
Starting point is 00:54:18 He had, I said he was like the most amazing blue guy of all time. Like, just had it had it all on. I loved it. Can I just say real quick on that note because I don't know if anyone that listened to that or watched that, you know, went to the Dream on three, website, but, man, how fucking cool, pardon my French, but how cool is it that, you know, a couple weeks ago you click on it, it describes what his dream is. And now you click on it and he lived through that.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Like, that's awesome. It's just so cool to see that. And I hope that other kids get to experience their favorite college teams or their favorite pro teams and have those memories with their mom and dad and their family. Like, that is just an awesome, awesome. organization and all the things that they do they were extremely lovely in the short interactions that i had with them so uh you know from the dream on three team obviously luke's family they were amazing as well it was just a just an awesome thing to uh see a little bit of from uh
Starting point is 00:55:16 from the outside looking at because you know you were the man on the field you know now i did get i did get you know i was on the 50 you were you were we were living it up i love it um no it uh no it was very cool um just to literally like see luke just taking it all in um which is is pretty sweet and uh dream on three amazing organization um you know i've been talking to their CEO now and you know working on how can we do bigger things with them so i'm super excited for the future um if you if you have the means if you you feel uh you know the you that you are willing to do it we appreciate it go to dream Mount 3.org and, you know, click the donate there so that they can continue to make these amazing dreams come true. So, all right. With that, Wrigley Friday at Sluggers, Saturday at Duffies,
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