Blue By Ninety - Michigan Basketball back on track

Episode Date: January 22, 2021

The boys welcome Mitch "the gambler" to the show to talk the Wolverines' bounce back blowout victory vs Maryland, Michigan Football solidifying their coaching staff on defense and online sports betting becoming legal in Michigan, Friday at noon. Crack a cold one and enjoy the show.

This is the University of Michigan. Touchdown, Michigan! That's the beat of Michigan ball! And they've got one extra pass. And it goes for the win! The three-pointer by Jordan Poole! Down the sideline! People jump!

Touchdown, Wolverines! Alright, welcome to Blue by 90. I am Justin with Jack and Kalen as always. And we have another special guest on today. It is my man Mitch Ross. No affiliation with anything, just a degenerate gambler who owns two horses. Mitch, how are you doing today? Good, guys. Thanks for having me. That's the best introduction we've ever had on this podcast. Very excited for this episode. Yeah, hopefully I can bring a little gambling knowledge to you guys by Friday, so hopefully. exactly yeah came out today that that sports betting is now going live online because it was live for the past little bit i mean casinos only were open like a couple weeks ago but now it's official that it's going to be online friday at noon perfect time to roll out the

weekend to to play some bets um and uh mitch is a degenerate gambler 100 percent uh how many how many accounts did you say that you have open already in in preparation for friday i have seven but it's also like it's beneficial to have seven accounts because you get all the bonuses so it's like take advantage of everything all the low-hanging fruit yeah i mean you definitely won't use all of them right absolutely not you i mean it depends on the lines like if someone's gonna give you minus 105 for a bet and other ones can give you minus 115 which one would you would you rather have got a line shop a little bit line shopping is is i mean that is the next level part of of gambling which i don't really do i've always just been on uh like bavada or five dimes i've only been a one book kind of

guy but now that it's legal you never know never know yeah i gotta win first before i start shopping for lines exactly i'm putting all my bonus money on Michigan over Purdue on Friday. Hopefully they cover whatever I'm placing. Has a line come out for Friday yet or no? I'd probably say Michigan's a nine-point favorite. Purdue just came out and beat Ohio State. They're playing pretty well. I don't know we'll see who to cover there yeah if it's yeah probably seven eight or nine something around there but i'd stay away from betting your own favorite team yeah that that's one thing that

we've tried to learn is like you gotta hedge yourself here a little bit right exactly that way either way you're happy at the end of the game yeah um i did love how i mean talking going into some michigan basketball here into detail i love how it was complete panic mode for the entire fan base on saturday against minnesota and then we turned it around i know maryland's not a great team, but it was just like, it looked like they were playing a fucking JV high school team. It was unbelievable. Back to the 25-point wins and, like, nothing ever happened to them. Well, they played. I mean, Michigan just took what they gave them.

They weren't playing defense on the perimeter, and Michigan just kept throwing up threes and they kept making them. I mean, they were getting the ball to the guys that they needed to get them to. And I know I referenced this earlier in the season. The Michigan's kept throwing up threes, and they kept making them. I knew it was – they were getting the ball to the guys that they needed to get them to. And I know I referenced this earlier in the season. They look like the Greg Popovich Spurs getting the ball passed around. Not getting laughed at as much right now, am I, Ro? But I thought they looked pretty good, man. They looked pretty good.

Yeah, it was also – I felt like it was evident that Eli Brooks was a big part of the team too. Having him back, it just looked a lot smoother yeah when you're gonna when you're in double team Dickinson and he was a little more patient this week like compared against Minnesota if he kicks it out you're gonna have wide open threes and if you make them it's gonna be you're gonna run up the score pretty quick yeah dude it's like I mean I do you guys think it was all Eli Brooks, is that the whole reason why they lose to Minnesota? Or was it not having Eli Brooks and you were just like came out cold. You're on the road.

They play well. They played. They play well at home. They played extra well at home. I thought. Is it all those? Or I can't figure out how much Eli truly is that impact or if it was like all those other variables too I mean I think Eli definitely impacts the game he's a great defender

he usually makes one of the better reads you know majority of the time when he's got the ball in his hands but what I noticed and I remember tweeting it out during the game I love Isaiah Livers but either he felt pressured to make plays or that's what it seemed like to me. He wasn't taking great shots. Wasn't giving the ball up getting the ball to the open guy. And I mean, Minnesota just played really well and it was just, I mean, ended up what 20 point loss. But they just, they looked like a completely different team yesterday. So I mean,

it's a combination of things for sure. Yeah. One thing I noticed kind of on a different note i guess at minnesota was it just felt like to me like the bench was like much farther from the court and i feel like michigan really like does a good job of feeding off that energy from the bench and so like yeah like at minnesota that just that wasn't there and so they couldn't get like hyped up and then they got down and then it just was like a you know it was like a circle yeah i think with eli coming back it's like i think michigan's like a big puzzle and like every person on the team has a piece or they they mean something to the team and once you put someone in a different position or a different role,

they're going to struggle a little bit. And they showed that against Minnesota. But once Eli was back yesterday, they came out guns blazing. Yeah, I think that he definitely is – he's obviously a very important piece to it. And I think, you know, they rotated – I think Juwan – we talked about this a little bit, but I think Juwan struggled with finding his rotation with Eli out, right? He's gotten so comfortable with the rotation of keeping those guys in, that starting five in for the first, I don't know, seven, eight minutes, and then Shaundi and Brandon Johns and some of these other guys come off the bench,

and it's like all right instant spark but as soon as Shaundi was not that six man guy he wasn't that six man anymore he was like well shit now who do I go to and it was Zeb Jackson as that you know seventh sixth seventh guy and I was like that's not really who we want in that situation yet and i he got in pretty early yesterday too and i was just like that was kind of shocking yeah i'm not bought in on zeb jackson yet man i mean obviously he's a freshman he's got a lot to you know got a lot a lot to learn and grow from but man brandon johns if he can play like that and michigan can rely on him to you know, play near how well he played last game. Even if he does that every couple games, right?

Like, he doesn't have to do that every day. No, but, I mean, he's an outside threat. I mean, if he's open, more often than not, he's probably going to be open at three-point line, and he can knock him down a little bit. I mean, he played well defensively. He got around in the paint. He was passing the ball out looking like Hunter Dickinson.

Man, he looked good, man. I was was really really excited to see brandon johns play well because we haven't seen that in probably a year yeah it looked like he like loosened up and he like just felt more comfortable so i love to see that yeah go going back to the game on uh saturday against minnesota i think with like zeb if you if he was going to play more than 10 minutes, you kind of knew Michigan was in trouble. Because like putting him in that spot in that big a game, I think like the big key moment I thought in the game was with like 10 minutes left, like Shaundi had a stop.

He hit a three and they took him out. Like I know he needed a breather. Like you could see that on him. But like taking him out, that momentum, the game kind of was over after that because Minnesota just pulled away yeah definitely I think that was I I think Zeb or whoever was going in I think it was Zeb going in for Shondy at that moment I want to say he was already at the scorer's table before uh like Shondy hit those shots and I think it but still you gotta maybe say all right

zeb sorry shawndy you're staying in right like i think juwan is still you know we have to remember that he's only coached 40 some games and as a head coach right at michigan and so um i don't how many games did they end up playing last year i'm assuming towards the 30 range but i can't 31 or 30 i think they end up like 18 13 or 18 12 something like that okay um yeah and if if shandy needs a break like johan could use a timeout like a 30 second timeout catch him a break like i know like you're trying to get him in and get a sub but like if he needs it and he's playing well give him a call a quick timeout well that's the thing is i'm a little worried about michigan at throughout the rest of the year or if they ever get down getting a pickle late in the

year because he hasn't had to do that in-game coaching where the other team goes on a 9-0 run and you have to call a timeout to stop the momentum like he hasn't had to do that very often at all you know so when Michigan uh you know gets punched in the face a little bit I need we need to I kind of want to see that a little bit more almost obviously I want Michigan to win every every game they play and play well throughout the game but I do I think for them to grow and for Juwan to grow as an in-game coach they we need we need to see them get punched in the face a couple times so that they how to see how they respond to see how juwan responds as a coach how does he get his team back on track and how do the

players respond in terms of like getting that momentum back fighting through it all that stuff well if you look forward towards purdue this uh on friday kalen wearing your goddamn purdue shirt he is wearing the produce but uh i think we'll see that in that game man they're they're playing well michigan's playing well i think it'll be a tough game um i was gonna say we probably won't see that until um february but february is coming up we got sparty you know coming up we got i think a couple other ranked games um I think Purdue on Friday will be a game we'll probably see Juwan have to coach through some adversity a little bit of a closer game with a hot team like Purdue and you know hopefully we see good adjustments and we see another W yeah I think that it's also going to be a really good

test for Hunter Dickinson because Travion williams four that freshman they got is seven foot four big motherfucker exactly and so they've got travion williams who is honest he's like six eight two seventy five or something like that he's insane but then they have that seven foot four freshman that comes in and he literally is just bigger than everybody the one i remember at the end of the msu game they put him in to rebound off that free throw and he literally was just like just went over the top of whoever it was and grabbed it i was like jesus christ so i know hunter digginson hasn't gone against that many great big men you know and the one time he did i would say his toughest test was against brad robbins in minnesota didn't play well well he split it

because at home he played really well against robbins and then at minnesota robbins started fucking hitting threes like john teske junior year and you know it's hard to defend that that much so i mean we've seen good we've seen a little bit of not as good but yeah definitely big big test against purdue for dickinson for sure yeah we'll see how that goes i i it's it'll be interesting to see how he tries to get back in a rhythm here because i think that he's kind of in a rut a little bit you know even though he looked good yesterday uh was it yesterday yeah yesterday but he wasn't like the scoring machine that he has been so um you know we'll see we'll see what happens there but hey i was just happy to see michigan bounce back in a big way um we talked about it i think last week that like you can't let two you can't let one loss go into two and make it a losing skid, right?

So that was a good way to bounce back. Not having consecutive losses is a big thing. Yeah, 100%, 100%. I'm curious to see. So I've watched Hunter Dickinson's high school highlights and everything. I thought a couple times, why couldn't they pick and pop them like i've seen he can make the three but like i don't know if joan's so comfortable with running like sets like they did with tesky last year that's why i was like thinking like oh maybe they can change it up to get him in a different groove or something

i'd love to see that i mean that'd be huge come tournament time if he can and and that i doubt that they're saving it for that but i mean if we could see that in tournament time where he can and and that i doubt that they're saving it for that but i mean if we could see that in tournament time where he's a threat from not even not even three but from the elbow and we've seen him shoot some make some nice shots from the elbow i mean just if he can be a threat outside of the paint that just opens up michigan's offense even more and i'd love to see it especially when they're up take some chances and give them an opportunity see what you can do for sure i think that would be if they're up 20 let's let's run a play for hunter dickinson to hit a three why not even if it makes us if even if it makes us look arrogant and like a dick like

we're pouring it on dude you're gonna that could be helpful later on and yeah you know what fuck it it helps us in the net rankings too, which gives us a, you know, bumps us up to a one seed. Jesus Christ. Bumps us up to a one seed, you know, or something like that. The net rankings takes into effect that we, you know, how much you win by. So, fuck it. Pour it on, in my opinion. Mitch, I want to ask you you too while we're on basketball

what are what are some other bets that we got going on maybe this weekend that that our followers can uh put some bets in online throw that bonus money at are we talking basketball only well everything college basketball while we're on the subject, but we can go into anything too. I think in college basketball, I haven't looked at the games as much. I don't like betting on my own team, but I think Michigan runs out of Purdue. I think there's a lot of hype on Purdue this week because they've been stealing a couple games. They're making big shots and everything, but I think Michigan beats them pretty bad on Friday. That's what I think.

Like, I would never tell anybody to bet my own team or anything. But you are telling them. You just told me. Yeah. But looking towards other bets, I think the Packers roll. I think Aaron Rodgers is the best player in the league right now. And I also have a future on the Packers, so that's why I'm kind of biased. I got in in September, so I'm a big Packers fan right now.

So you got him in like 16-1? Yeah, I got him in like 16-1. Oh, that's pretty nice. So I like the Packers. I mean, they're playing at Lambeau. I also think it's going to be a high-scoring game. In that game, I think – think I'd take the over. I'd never tell anyone to bet the under NFL because it's so chaotic.

Like, anything can happen crazy at the end of the game. And then with the other game, because I don't know if Mahomes is going to play, but I'm all in on the Bills mafia this week, too fuck yeah yeah smash you some tables baby i know did you did you see like dick sporting goods it's like selling they put them right next to like all the bills gear i love it genius marketing genius marketing so i like i like the bills this week and i like the packers uh then i think packers won the super bowl you you're not on uh anything as possible you're not drinking that henny no too strong for me i'm not drinking henny for any this weekend he was he was that was crazy when like because he threw he threw that like

crazy pick it was like terrible because he threw a dime to tyreek what like two passes prior and he throws deep i'm like let's go and i'm like who the fuck was there there was nobody within 10 yards it was like a punt oh yeah yeah so like i'm uh also like uh there's a big horse race this week so if you're looking to bet the horses oh the ponies the. So if you're looking to bet the horses, Oh, the ponies, the ponies, if you're looking to bet the ponies, I got winners for you, but I I'll tweet them out later this week.

I got to look at the lines and look at all everything, but there's a big horse race this week. So what is it? Generate gambler, Mitch on Twitter. How do I, how do I get these? Uh,

how do I get these bets? Uh, yeah, you can follow me at, at Mitchie row 99 so m-i-t-c-h-y-r-o-9-9 but yeah i was i i tweeted out the so we're doing all these icebreakers in class come i just started back up school and i told her like i was i tweeted out i said the only things i talk about in my icebreakers is pumping iron and talking horses.

And I need some new hobbies. That's fucking awesome. There's like nothing else to talk about. So I'm just like, man, it puts in some perspective what I've done the last 10 months of my life. I mean, you were showing off on Instagram. You shredded bod. I gained the quarantine 15. You lost the quarantine 15.

Oh, yeah. Ever since I got COVID, I don't like had the taste buds, so nothing tastes good or anything. But that's not – I also decided to work out during COVID. But, yeah, no, I was – yeah. I eat kale every day. I also decided to work out during COVID. I eat kale every day. Thanks for taking notice. I appreciate it.

Absolutely. I felt so cool. All these guys were commenting on my Instagram photo. I was like, okay. There weren't any girls sliding in the DMms the ladies didn't love it come on no i mean i'm but it's hey like like i said the only things i do right now are pump iron and talk horses so like i don't even talk like i've probably slid into maybe four girls dms in the last six months i've been oh for four you don't have time for it you got to keep your mind on the money on the sports betting Ben 0 for 4. You don't have time for it.

You got to keep your mind on the money, on the sports betting, and your mind on the gin. Don't let a female distract you in that. Unless she has winners for me, then I'll entertain the thought. If she doesn't want to sit down on a Saturday night and watch Gulfstream Park and watch college basketball, I don't want it. To all our female listeners, take notes. Yeah, take notes. For all our guy listeners out there that are looking to land a female, don't take notes.

Don't take notes the funny thing about like so you had shane on last last week and i was uh up north with him like probably a year ago and like i was telling like describing like my perfect girl and i said like watch the sports likes working out likes golfing and like his dad goes i think you need a dude time to start a switch hitting make yourself happy that's amazing that's amazing all right well now that we have uh mitch ross's guide to life i guess uh we transition a little bit to talk football here um so the big a lot of football to talk about for a freaking january 20th you know um inauguration day today as well which is uh very exciting um so i i'm sure everyone

is taking inauguration day well uh i did tweet out i tweeted out today that there was a guy that passed me with a Trump flag flying out of his truck. And I was just like, man, tough day for that guy. Tough day. Rough day. Some guy was rocking $2,000 Jordans on the... I saw that. I was like, man, this guy has some style. I saw that.

And then Biden's daughter was rocking some, I think, either Jordans or Nikes. You couldn't tell because her pants were kind of hanging over it. But she was rocking some nice kicks, too. Do you guys think Trump is a gambler? I think he might be a degenerate at some point. Dude, he owned a casino. He tweeted out during the election, like, all the books have me winning at some point i just i think that's funny as shit to just imagine him like scanning the lines on a friday

night or something like that i mean you have all that money in the world like i don't i mean if i won like if i had millions of dollars i probably wouldn't be as much of a gambler as i am right or would you be 10 times the gambler you are because you'd just be like fuck it you're throwing it all on there probably i probably buy more horses probably you would 100 100 um all right so football back to football there's a lot of shit going on right now for january so uh officially today um they finalized some things uh so mike mcdonald is the defensive coordinator well co-defensive coordinator right um or is he like d coordinator and then the other guys the co d i don't know i want to say they're yeah i think mike mcdonald's

a d coordinator um god i can't remember is it moe linguist moe linguist and then he's the co dc and db's coach and then that other dude is safety's coach I can't remember what his fucking name is so I'm a little confused we also kept Sean Nua we extended Sean Nua today as well I'm a little confused why we're keeping Sean Nua who hasn't landed a D tackle in three years but we're letting go of Mike Zordich who has gotten our corners and defensive backs like into a good spot every single year. Anybody else confused on that? I don't know.

Maybe, I mean, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and just say that maybe it wasn't his responsibility to recruit D lineman, but that sounds fucking ridiculous when he's a D line coach. So I don't know, man, I don't know.

I think he's a young guy. It looks like they're trending towards young guys and maybe they just want to keep him cause he's young and maybe he'll have a year. Maybe he'll have a year this year where he recruits really well. Yeah. Just goes to show that obviously the, uh, uh,

you know, the thoughts about him inside Shem Beckler are much different than the thoughts outside. So maybe they see something there that we don't see. I have no idea. Must be. Yeah, I was looking at the Michigan coaching age difference. The last five years it's been like 46, 47, 45,

and now it's like 37, 38. Yeah, and it's in the 30 so i think they're they're turning towards young and they want to connect more with the young recruits yeah i mean that's totally true but like you can't just have fucking no experience and like i don't know i i there's something to say for having some juice into some energy and all that shit um but still i think it's i don't know i'm just like all right you you gotta you can be young and energetic but you gotta prove it you have to have some performance out of you and on the recruiting trail he hasn't had shit for performance so i'm sorry but unless he like i i haven't seen us put out any offers to any even like transfer portal guys on the D-line.

A lot of guys on transfer portal. Anything like that. But like I already saw Moe Lindquist like today. Just dropped like four offers. It is 24 hours. So what's John Nua doing this whole time? Like I'm just a little still confused about it all. I don't know. so we'll see but i i do like do you guys like the whole young thing that the fact that harbaugh is going the

young route to to energize maybe and help her on the recruiting trail i mean i think we've talked about it before right like we need michigan to go like we want want Michigan to kind of go young, kind of start not not like start a new tradition. But we've talked about it. Get all the old heads out of the big house, bringing a younger crowd, bringing some noise. And I, you know, I think this could be kind of stemming it in the right direction, which I'm all for. I am all for it. Yeah, I'm hoping that, you know, some young coaches bring in some energy, which leads to better recruits. Right. Because that's ultimately where we're where we're losing out is getting the really highly rated recruits. So if I mean, I don't know, it kind of remains to be seen. If it works, then we'll all be like, oh, it's a genius.

If it doesn't work, we'll be like, Jim's an idiot. So, whatever. Which I think we're all at right now. Yeah. Yeah. It's always been about, like, tradition with Michigan. Like, you think about it, it's like running out, slapping the banner, wearing the same uniforms every time.

But for once in a while, you've got to change it up. And I think Harbaugh has, like, saw, like, we've got to do something different this time and bring some new energy to the squad. What we've got to start doing is bringing those happy meals to the recruits, man. Like Tennessee. Go Vols, baby. Those are your Vols.

Hey, what I was going to say, remember Eric Gray and Quaverius Crouch or Couch? Those guys are in the transfer portal right now. Aubrey Solomon, too? i mean shit man if we can bring those guys back that would be fucking awesome eric gray probably wouldn't come because the running arby room's stacked but uh quaveris man never never bad to have some death at linebacker is it are you allowed to if you are aubrey sellman to transfer to somewhere else and then transfer back is that allowed i don't see why not i don't yeah i don't think there's a rule against it it just doesn't happen which makes sense i mean but what is this

guy what's the michigan running back room looking like? I saw that Charbonnet is gone and Evans is gone. And like, yeah, what's left? I mean, Haskins, I'm assuming it's going to be RB one. Yeah.

Blake Corum, who I love. And don't get me wrong. I love Haskins, but I think Blake Corum should be RB one. And you got, uh, Donovan Edwards coming in highly rated guy.

I think he was the number two running back recruit in the country. And then Tavier Dunlap, who's an underrated guy but looks pretty solid. So, I mean, it'll probably be like instead of seeing four guys like last year, we'll probably see three guys this year. But hopefully the rotation is a little bit better with Mike Hart there. Hopefully two. Hopefully two, yeah. But the thing is, like, we can't just play Donovan Edwards

just because we think he's a hot shot recruit. Like, he's got to earn it. And if he earns it over Corum or Haskins, then fucking go with them. Like, sorry, dude. It's just got to be how it goes. I'm sick of it. And I wonder how much of the whole four-man rotation was Gattis versus Jay um jay harbaugh i mean he's calling the plays you know he doesn't want to ask for a personnel in my opinion that's what i assume

i agree at us i agree because i think people shit on jay harbaugh but it's like i think jay harbaugh did his job in getting four running backs up to the level of playing level right playing getting playing time but then josh gaddis has to be able to say you know what these all these guys are all good but these two are a little bit better and we're gonna run with these two um i i don't know what you guys i am kind of pissed that charbonnet transferred like Like, I'm pissed at, not at him, I'm pissed at Michigan for screwing it up so bad because I think Charbonnet is very, very good, in my opinion. I think we said it on Twitter, you know, we've talked about it in the past, but, like, dude, you put him behind a solid offensive line and run off tackle

and run it like Michigan State back with Le'Veon Bell or Wisconsin with Jonathan Taylor like dude there's he's running for 150 plus yards a game I I don't see any way around that because he does run hard he's great seeing the hole uh I think he Haskins runs a little bit harder than he does than Charbonnet does. But I think Charbonnet still had like that more physicality. And then the other thing about Charbonnet that people aren't talking about, he was the best pass blocker I've ever seen. He was so good at pass blocking. And so when,

when Joe Milton or JJ McCarthy or Cade McNamara gets blown up because Blake Corum is 5'8", I think people are going to be like, well, shit, now what do we do? It's something that is being – I think people are like, oh, Charbonnet, it's whatever. We've got more running backs in the running back room, but I think we're going to miss him more than people think. Well, here's my stance i'm i'm with you i like charbonnet i would have liked to see him play more last year and something you didn't mention he's he's not slow i mean he's got a little bit of wheels to him he was probably one of the i think quorum was probably the fastest back

but i think charbonnet was right behind him. He was right there. I think no matter what one of those four guys would have transferred out, it would have been either Haskins or Charbonnet. Corham probably would have stuck around. It probably would have been Haskins or Charbonnet. But, yeah, great pass blocker. He definitely should have been, I think, started the year as the number one guy. But, shit, man, I don't know. He's don't know it's he he's definitely going to be missed he's definitely going to be missed and he's i 100 agree with

you he's going to go somewhere and he's going to produce and michigan fans are going to be like god damn it but also we do have a stacked running back room and you know it'll it'll be made up for that's what i think i think we will miss him but it'll be made up for. That's what I think. I think we will miss him, but it'll be made up for through other players. Yeah, I think that's true as long as we actually settle into the fact that you can't run this system with, you know, all these running backs. Right. You've got to have a one and two. Yeah, you've got to pick two. You know, this is like going to freaking Panera Bread.

Pick two. You can't pick five, okay? That's a good deal. That's a good deal. Might get that for lunch tomorrow. Yeah, I see Charbonnet playing at the next level eventually, and I don't think, like, he goes to, like, he drops off and goes to, like, a mag school. I think he's good enough to play at, like, any D1 level.

I don't see him, like like going somewhere small either oh yeah i think he's going d1 for sure i'm curious if he'll go back to um back home to cali like maybe hit up usc stanford i don't know ucla ucla you would kill it stanford or something arizona state yeah that'd be a good one, too. Or Arizona. Arizona. Jet Fish. Jet Fish, yeah. That would make sense. Utah, even, would make sense. Yeah, true.

Utah does, I mean. This is sad. As much as people shit on the Pac-12, there's so many teams there that are, like, I feel like they're just a step away from the Pac-12 being really good. Yeah. Because Utah's been very good um oregon hell not so much oregon usc washington yep stanford i mean they're all they've all been there they're all close enough to kind of like getting back and like having pac-12 be a powerhouse again. I feel like they almost just beat up on each other a little bit, so it hurts them in the long run. Everyone thinks they're shit because there's no Alabama or Clemson

who goes 12-0 every year, right? And we're going to see something with Washington next year playing Michigan. I mean, we'll see kind of how they compare to the Big Ten in that game. For sure. Yeah, I think it'll just be so it'll be interesting to see what do you guys want to see from these coaches now like right away obviously we've seen uh mo lindquist longquist lindquist i think lindquist lindquist it's weird not having a familiar name i don't know about you guys but like it's weird but i kind of like it i i kind of like it too because the expectations aren't there a little bit so

that's like they also i think what harbaugh is doing too is like i've got guys that are out here trying to prove some shit right will muschamp was he gonna come in and like his career doesn't live or die on this season? Right. Because he can like, if he doesn't do well at Michigan, he can get a D coordinator job somewhere else. And Derek Mason, probably the same way, but the guys that he's getting, it's like, they are, they're either, you know, taking the next step or they're probably out.

Cause they don't have the name and the experience to back up on. Yeah, I think this is definitely a – and I'd be totally okay with this. I think this is a stepping stone position for these guys. They're coming to Michigan to take the next step and move on. And we've seen that with Alabama a lot, and they've done very, very well with that. And I am totally okay with that if Michigan can become the Alabama of the north where it's like the coaches rehab program where guys come back that have been good and they go back to being a coordinator and then they go find another job

as long as Michigan can cycle through that I'm all for it and if you can find young studs that can you know succeed and then move on as long as you can keep it moving. That's that'd be amazing. And to answer your question with what can these, what can these guys do? I mean, something that they can control right away is just bring energy. I mean, you don't, that, that comes straight from you. You don't have to worry about your players or anything like that. Just bring energy every day and, you know, work your ass off. And, you know, hopefully we see Michigan kind of go in the right direction in the fall.

Yeah, I think it unfortunately I think it's a little bit like apples to oranges there a little bit because like Alabama, I think you can bring in a competent OC or something with a bunch of five stars and run an offense. But with Michigan, there's a lot deeper competition there. Right. I mean, you got to play against Penn State. You got to play against penn state you got to play against ohio state michigan state so you need to get like more creative and there's more going on there in my opinion well that's where i like i'm with you but i mean you see guys like steve sarkisian he left and came back to alabama right like there's there's proven guys that go back to alabama that's the thing that i

like is like they have guys that didn't succeed as a head coach so they go back to be an oc like the page really well yeah 100 i guarantee you matt patricia is going to be back at d coordinator there next year or the year following honestly could be right well and that's where you know saban's got his whole you you know, scheme down and everything. So he can bring in, like I'm saying, like a competent person to run his team versus a desirable job in Alabama. Yeah. Like Jim can't just like bring in some OC who's like definitely knows football to run Michigan. It's not going to work like it. It's the same principle as the lions bringing in patricia right oh he was good over here so he'll be good for us and it's like no not true so um i think

michigan needs to be more creative and i think having those young guys on the sidelines could be kind of the key yeah i see like michigan and the lions right now in the same like position like they're bringing in new like unproven guys but like they're all hungry to succeed and like i think you gotta take a risk on like the hunger once in a while compared to the oh yeah the person that was set in stone like because like like patricia like he was the coordinator like they're they were set in the Patriot way and everything. And with Harbaugh, like, all the old guys, they were set in their ways. But bringing in new, young, like, flesh, like,

I think it's going to be a big improvement to the squad. I also think the other thing that was happening a lot with Don Brown and even, like, back to Pep Hamilton and some of these other guys is, like, Jim and Don were, like, good friends, right? That's his boy. So I think now it's like Jim realizes it's, if you don't do it Lundquist and Mike McDonald, like then it's my fucking head that's coming, right? Like they're coming from my head.

So he, I don't think he's going to hold back in any terms of like, it's OK, buddy. We'll get him next time, which it kind of seemed like him and Don Brown had that. Like he had so much trust in Don Brown and he was like, yeah, you've proven it. So like, what do we what do we got to do to just get over that hump? Well, now it's going to be like, get it done or you're out of here. Right. Type of thing. And I think that of that take. I love that. Yeah. It's a lot easier to manage people when you're out of here, right, type of thing. And I think that – I love that take. I love that take. Yeah.

It's a lot easier to manage people when you're not buddies with them. And it's like if you're not doing your job, get the fuck out, right? Yeah. So I haven't thought about that, but I love that. I love that. Harbaugh did like a coaching clinic for like Michigan High School. And then like one of his like key things is like not being afraid to coach or don't let like outside like factors play in my coaching decision.

Like just coach the team and like, don't worry about my job. That's like, I think that's going to change this year compared to the last couple of years. Yeah. I hope so. I love it. What did you guys think of Ambry Thomas? I mean, on the same note as Don Brown, Ambry Thomas said, like, he thought that Lem letting Don Brown go was kind of like a scapegoat. And he thought Don Brown was still a great coach and blah, blah, blah. Do you think that Ambry had, like, maybe some inside knowledge on things we don't know?

Or do you think he's just defending his old coach? I think 100 percent he had some knowledge. I mean, he definitely knows a hell of a lot more than we do because he's probably talking his old coach i think 100 he had some knowledge i mean he definitely knows a hell of a lot more than we do because he's he's probably talking to players and whatnot and honestly look back at don brown's you know season rankings as far as his defenses go they're always top 10 but unfortunately at michigan if you get blown out by ohio state you know you're not going to be the head coach or not the um d coordinator um i don't know man i mean i think he definitely was used as a scapegoat but he probably should have been

let go a year ago they probably held on a little bit longer than they should have i i i think that don brown's a very likable dude right so he probably has great relationships with his guys and he does. It's not like he doesn't know how to coach. Like he's a smart dude. He knows how to coach. He's succeeded at the, at, you know, one of the highest levels out there. So I think that there were just some things that you, you simply, you said it, Jack, like you could be the greatest coach against, even if Michigan went 11 and one every year, but then got blown out by Ohio State and gave up 60, you're still going to get fired, even though you're an unbelievable D coordinator every single other game. Like, that's just how it goes, man.

It's the one standard. It's the one benchmark. So, I think that he probably is like, it's probably a little bit of both. He's defending his guy because Don brown has a great relationship with him and he was like don brown's the the grandpa type like you know hugging your arm around you type of guy he probably did had a ton to do with getting ambry you know ready for the nfl and things like that but then also like sorry dude it's just it's just how it goes if you if you don't perform against your rival and the top opponents then at Michigan it's just it's how it goes yeah I think with like all

of like Michigan's defenses like they're always ranked high and everything and like they always took advantage of the teams that weren't as talented talented as them or like as aggressive but once like you met a team that can match their intensity or their size or talent, that's where it got a little out of hand compared to Ohio State. Ohio State just demolished them. Yeah. I think it's just this tough thing where, like, am I expecting Mike McDonald to come in and hold uh ohio state to like 14

points no but i think you just have to hold it to something reasonable so that i mean they've scored against ohio state the last couple years they've scored in the 30s so like in the 30s you need to be you need to be respectable you need to keep it within 14 if you're offensive scoring in the 30s right so um i mean but then again i watched the mich or the indiana ohio state game this year and it was like a fucking shootout and that's almost like people are like well you're not going to beat ohio state in a shootout how else do you beat them other than just trying to score more points because northwestern actually played great defense against him in the big 10 championship and but they can't outscore them so

it doesn't matter right like i i don't there's no formula to beat ohio state at this point unless you're alabama and i think i think that's the i think that's the biggest uh the biggest hope that michigan fans have right now is Justin Fields is gone. I mean, obviously, they've got a QB waiting, and he's probably going to be another fucking stud. But you're right, Justin. I mean, they've got to – the only way to beat Ohio State is in a shootout. And I think if McDonald can hold Ohio State – I mean, if he can hold them to the high 30s, that is a huge success. Huge success.

I mean, that's still a lot of fucking points scored, but that is, I mean, that would be, I would be happy with that. I mean, let's be honest. When you're scoring 62, you're scoring. Every fucking time you get the ball. Literally every time you get the ball. That's nine touchdowns, right right nine times seven is 63 nine times seven is yeah yeah nine fucking touchdowns dude that's a lot of fucking touchdowns that i mean how many possessions do you get in a football game like that's the thing they score so quickly they score on these big plays that that's how they

that's how they operate which if you want to beat them you got to throw the fucking ball downfield sometimes right yeah so it's just how it goes so um all right i on on that note i we i on january 20th i shouldn't be getting fired up about it i, but 12 months ago, this is the life of a Michigan fan. So, uh, that's where we'll wrap it up, Mitch. Thank you so much for, for joining us today, giving us a little, you know, just life advice on, on what to focus your life on girls. Aren't the end all be all, uh, focus on on the weight room focus on the ponies and gambling and basketball and sports um so you already gave us your twitter once where else can we follow you you can give it to us again if you want uh yeah you can follow me on twitter

instagram at matureo99 and i just launched a TikTok sports page. It's called at one, one minute Mitch. It's just for fun, but I can try to teach you guys how to make bets and create value through your plays. Cause I think a lot of people online, like don't give out good picks and everything. And cause they can give you a coin flip because anything one tens of coin flip. So I think I can try to teach people how to create value with your bets but i do have a bet this week it's the golf bet take tony fina to win he's gonna win this week all right i think that's huge that that tiktok page i mean with with

sports betting online coming to michigan you know launching that that's a good time to do it let's get this thing rolling let's blow it up 25 followers right now and all my friends comment on them and just make fun of it but i'm trying to launch it so but no i really appreciate you guys having me on it was fun to talk about my life a little bit oh yeah i'll be looking on twitter for those uh sports uh sports bets advice i'll i'll i'll take the uh can't lose parlay from mitchie rowe yeah i got you i got you love it love it and and we'll always bet on your horses whenever they're racing too so oh yeah i'll make sure to let you guys know uh they're both in florida one should be running next week and then the one that i have more value or more percentage ownership in is running probably next month.

Amazing. Amazing. I love it. So I might go buy a couple of horses. My little public from fucking Kmart. That's what I'll go get. Drink 15 beers this weekend and buy a fucking horse. Who knows?

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