Blue By Ninety - MICHIGAN FOOTBALL DOMINATES PENN STATE IN THE TRENCHES

Episode Date: November 12, 2023

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This is the University of Michigan. Touchdown, Michigan! The beat of Michigan ball! And they've caught extra pass. And it goes to the wind! The three-pointer by Jordan Poole! Down the sideline! Peebles-Jones!

Touchdown, Wolverines! All right, welcome back to Blue by 90. I'm Justin, joined by Jack Kalin and Tanner today. It is November 12th, and Michigan has still not given up a goal line touchdown or a point in the third quarter. Pretty damn good. 10-0, baby. Feels good. Have we not?

We haven't given up a goal line touchdown? No. Yesterday, Penn State had the first play inside the 10-yard line, I believe, against Michigan all year long. And we didn't give up a touchdown for that drive? No, we got the style. They went – so I want to bring up James Franklin talking about, you know, there's some times where you're in, you know, fourth and two

and they have two safeties deep and, you know, they know what's coming. James, people know what's coming because you're a moron. You ran a third and goal line fade against Will Johnson. What do you think is going to happen? That is especially like he doesn't – if he had a key on Coleman, then yeah, okay, I get that. But he doesn't have one. So what are we doing here?

Yeah, they had five plays within the ten. I also thought Aller was short on that third and goal where they did the touch push. But, you know, Michigan is not going to get any favors from the refs in Big Ten play moving forward. But the defense did their job. It's so hard to – sorry to interrupt you, but it's so hard. Like, they're just completely guessing at the spot anytime that happens.

There's 22 guys on a pile that you have to figure out. Like, I mean, you can literally just, if you're due out, or you're just inching forward, like even, you know, two minutes after the play is done as they're dragging bodies off the pile. But yeah, I agree. I mean, all in all, yesterday was one of the most, the best, but most exhausting days I feel that I've ever had as a Michigan fan.

Yeah, we definitely – It was a long day, dude. We got a chance to watch at Pretzel Bell, and definitely the, like, the feeling in there, like the intensity was, like, palpable. So I'm like, I can only imagine what the guys on the field felt. I agree. I think what started the day off, which this set the tone for the whole

day, we started off the day with the hail IPA at pretzel bell, uh, shout out North peak brewing. There was no other, you know, the guy, the bartender came up, shout out to pretzel bell for hosting us by the way. And shout out to all the people that came out with, there was literally probably like 500 people there. It was the basement and the upstairs were both just packed standing room only which was incredible i agree with you kaylin like the energy in there was ridiculous um but the

bartender came over but you know when we first got there and he's like what are you guys having and me and tanner looked at each other we're just like uh yeah it's a hail ipa yeah maybe 11 it may be 11 07 in the morning but i will be having an hail ipa and i will be enjoying it that delicious ipa flavor just the haziness of it i mean it's just it's just it goes down smooth and with it being 7.2 percent it was you know it gets the buzz going right from the get-go. It was a jolt. Especially with nothing in the stomach. Yeah, I told Justin as I was driving in, like, I was oddly calm. So then I put on Enter Sandman just to feel something, right? And I'm, like, driving with my wife, and she's like, are you okay?

And I'm like, no, I'm not. And we get there, and I'm like, I need the Hale IPA. And that just got the energy levels up to 100. And then we kept it going until, gosh, 30 minutes after the game, I don't think is what until i kind of came down a little bit like we were fired up you justin kept punching me randomly like like we were just watching the second slate of games i just feel a punch in my chest i was like all right let's this is what we're doing to celebrate i love it dude i was wearing luckily i

was wearing my my patagonia like puffer vest and it's pretty thick because Ro slapped me hard as shit, I think, after that first touchdown. And Kalen just looked over me. He's like, dude, you all right? I was like, yeah, I don't think I was as bad. It was pretty hard. I felt that in my seat. Yeah. I apologize, but also I apologize

for absolutely nothing. Got me juiced up. There was just a lot going on. I had the juices flowing. And I really did, like, I don't know. I felt like we were in Happy Valley. Like, we were with the guys. So, that was just, like, how I was feeling. But, I mean, with everything that happened over the past not only three weeks,

but then in the last 24 hours like the Michigan versus everybody mantra was like flowing through my veins I don't know about you guys but like Twitter was just crazy all day Friday going into Saturday morning and it was like I just wanted to shove it up everyone in the world's ass and we the guys went out and did that all day saturday i mean literally just just right down penn state's throat all game long 32 the last 32 plays we include the kneel downs all runs i mean they had a couple passes that they you know where jj scrambled for first down and then they had the one pi but otherwise they were like if you're gonna keep brushing up field like this we're going to man ball the fuck out of you,

and we're going to make a statement win. And that's exactly what they did. Sharon Moore gets his win as a head coach for the second time this season. First top ten win. I mean, I keep seeing the stat. He has as many top ten wins as James Franklin. Is that true? Is that accurate?

I saw that report. That's an absurd stat. That's hilarious. He's one for one. I mean, James Franklin, he got booed out of the stadium. He did. Those videos were tough to watch. Like, one of his linemen was yelling at fans.

Like, it was awkward. Yeah. I don't know, man. I feel like he's what Harbaugh was pre-2021 right where like you're a really solid coach i think you're a great recruiter and but you just can't win those meaningful games and then like if you can't win those meaningful games then what is it all for you know? Yeah. It's funny looking at the stat line of this game, too.

If I would have told you JJ is going to complete seven passes and we're going to win the game. It's fucking insane. By two scores, by the way. 60 yards. 60 yards passing. Well, all the casuals, by the way, on Twitter were like, oh, they can't trust jj no that's not what happened he looks good throwing the ball he was gonna run for his life and michigan needs

jj mccarthy down the stretch penn state's defensive ends uh isaac and robinson are both phenomenal they're really good speed rushers which i think michigan struggles with yeah which is looking ahead to ohio state jtt and sawyer are not really speed rushers so that makes me feel a little bit better but there's some certainly some things to work on. But this is more of an O-line thing for Michigan and Sherone Moore. Michigan is just bludgeoning it up front in the run game. Couldn't really hang in the pass game, so why get J.J. Hurt? Utilize his legs and then just man ball the hell out of him.

And that's what they did to 227 rushing yards. Yeah, I love seeing J.J. run. Dono finally had a nice little touchdown run but dono was huge i mean he had i mean the third third and 11 touchdown um he had the uh the big run where he cut back which he kind of ran into his inter and i was like i don't know if he didn't see it right away and he had so much green grass and gets like 20 yards. There was one guy that dove at him, and I don't know what it is, but he's so good at getting his feet up. The high step.

The high step, yeah, he's very good at that. I mean, I just think like – so I tweeted out today too, like yesterday was a true three-headed monster rushing attack it was not only Blake it put you know it's been Blake all year Dono hasn't been there that much but it was Blake plus Dono was feeling like old Dono big game Dono and then JJ himself in the run game as well like that's where JJ is the difference maker compared to other things. I mean, he is like, I just am very impressed with, you know, that when they finally, like there wasn't much moving with this offense early on, and then they just run

like kind of the Denard Wright run with JJ, and he gets the first down. I love that so much. Plus they showed the ability to line up and what did john jansen call it that like mammoth package where they had three extra offensive linemen and then they were really able to just like totally wear out the penn state defense late in the game but also when they were running some of those outside runs you got to see our receivers putting up some good blocks out in space right and that's how you get those downfield open space uh yards for guys like blake and don out love seeing that

yeah can we take a portion of the podcast to just discuss some of the takes on one sharon more and his postgame press conference because i think it's very just just bullshit from a lot of people that he doesn't get to show emotion and that we're gonna trash him because yeah you know I saw a bunch of stuff like you know I saw Justin Thinds who's like relax you're gonna see him at the hotel and I saw that take from a lot of people who you know aren't that smart um don't know ball but I think it's really frustrating to see those takes because you know the reason that Sharon Moore is just so emotional about it is look yeah I mean the suspension you know it's you know, the reason that Sharon Moore is just so emotional about it is, look, yeah, I mean, the suspension, you know, it's, you know, who knows what happened. But I think when you look at Sharon Moore's coaching trajectory, Jim Harbaugh brought him to Michigan at 31 years old to be the tight ends coach.

He's now the offensive coordinator and the O-line coach. And he gets an opportunity to step in and be the head coach in a top 10 matchup on the road in Happy Valley in one of the biggest games of the season. And he's not allowed to show emotion and be thankful and grateful to Jim Harbaugh. Like I just find that just extremely whack. And I just really didn't like a lot of the things that I saw from, you know, a lot of like, quote unquote, respected journalists. It's just bullshit to me.

Who, who, after the last three weeks, who's still a respected journalist. Let's be real. Like this has been, I i haven't i don't know dan wetzel noseball you know obviously we're gonna be we're gonna be biased um you know because obviously we're we're on michigan's side in this uh but i just i think that like there are so many people that their professionalism went out the window and it totally went to completely biased journalism. And so all those takes out there, Tanner, I saw a bunch of them. Everyone's trashing Cherone.

Everyone's trashing Michigan still. Who gives a fuck? There's a bunch of dorks. I don't think – There's a bunch of dorks. Actually, you know what? I want to give a shout-out to Lexi. I saw her on Twitter today because she said,

I've never cared less about what is – like what outside people are saying. I truly – and I agree with that. Yeah. Like everyone's going to say whatever they they want now and it just doesn't matter because like we're truly now to the point where we're the cowboys we're bama we're you know whatever it is in the sense that it's like everyone hates us because we've been successful and we're the patriots right of the flight gate and all that they're trying to find ways to bring us down and so all as long as all

that matters is the people in our fan base in that locker room and they're all together and i love that they now have the chip on their shoulder well i think what people outside of the michigan fan base really hate about us as michigan fans is they feel like they feel like we think we deserve more respect than they think we deserve right they think that we're like arrogant so to say and they're like you've been good for two years but you can't get over the hump in the playoff right and things like that i'm like if you're that upset then come beat us right so what's your you know well that was that was why yesterday was so like just unbelievable right it was so satisfying for the Michigan fan base yesterday because I like I was

talking to my dad about this this morning like is there was there a more must-win game in Michigan football history than than yesterday you know Ohio State, that's probably one of the biggest must-win games of all time, right? Because if they don't win that, then you're just back to 10-2 and none of it matters. And Harbaugh's probably gone, right? But yesterday, it's like, if you don't win that, then the rest of the world wins. Everyone seems vindicated for, you know, oh, you couldn't do it without the signs. You know, you couldn't do it without this, that, and the other thing, blah, blah, blah. You deserved it all. But yesterday we proved to the world that no coach, no signs, no nothing. We're still pretty damn good football

team and just went on the road and beat a top 10 team. And I think the way that we did it was even more satisfying because it's our strength up against their strength, and our strength was better. I mean, honestly, try and name another team that could beat a top-ten team on the road with their OC as head coach. I don't know. I really don't. And just, like like overpowering you know truly the shove it up

your ass mentality of like i don't care if you know that we're gonna run it we're still better than you even though you've got one of the best defenses in the country especially for the rushing team i think that's true over the last three years as well to anybody that wants to insinuate there's any reason that Michigan wins a game other than they line up, they play good football, they kick the shit out of you on a down-to-down basis, and they get out of there with a win. That's what it is.

That's always what it's been. And the people that know ball know that. And I also want to say, too, Justin, to your point, that's a good point, man. You know, I still – you know, I read stuff and I'm like – I get pissed off. But I also just – like I told you guys yesterday, like I'm a hater now. I'm just like, just, you know, I'm over everybody. Like I want every team to lose. I want every team in the Big Ten to lose.

Like I'm not, get me out of this SEC, SEC friendship, brotherhood bullshit. But also I just want to say real quick, because you kind of touched on it, but I just want to call out these people as fucking dorks, truly. In the meanest sense of the word dork. people as fucking dorks. Truly in the, in the, in the meanest sense of the word dork, you are all dorks. If you think this,

the amount of people that said, Oh, wait till Michigan plays a real team. Let's see Michigan pass a test of, of playing a good team and not a bunch of, of, of dog water teams. Michigan goes into happy Valley does what we've already talked about today.

And I see people like Booger McFarland's like, Oh, that actually wasn't a test no you're fucking dork dude you can't say it was a test on thursday and then when michigan pounds it down their throat repeatedly like oh actually that's not a test because that was the best win in college football on the college football ranking show for ohio state so what is it now exactly you can't have it both ways but everyone wants to have it both ways all of a sudden now Penn State's not a good team right they're unimpressive

our boy Pete Feinbaum as Jim calls him I'll call him that forever because I stand with Jim on it leader of the fucking dorks by the way he is the leader of the dorks and he I mean still that tweet of Jim calling him Pete

is one of the – like I want Jim on Twitter so bad right now because he would be the most electric person of all time. I need a one-word tweet after the natty, and you know what that word is. I need it so bad. Bet? Yep. But, yeah, Feinbaum went on and said it today.

So, like, it's just moving the goalposts. It's, you know, they'll never – it was the same thing as last year. Like, you know, all of a sudden winning the Big Ten championship for the second time in a row and going to the college football playoff, you lose to TCU in obviously a crazy back-and-forth game. And that's, you know, now they're not good because TCU is not good, even though they somehow made they were good enough to make it to the college football playoff which is pretty

freaking good you know like i i agree they'll always move the goalposts anytime they they just they can't give us the credit um that that we deserve in my opinion good good good we don't need their approval um but in that same vein can we can we give some some approval to some of the dogs on this football team man some of the guys that just made plays that are just ball players man i mean ray sean benny dog dog i mean he had a couple tfls he had the force fumble he played his tail off his best game as a wolverine kenneth grant monster had multiple tfls but also chase i mean catch that in the end zone if he kept running? He runs a 4-2-40.

I think he runs a 4-2-40, honestly. We need some merch of him chasing down Drew Aller or Nick Singleton, whoever that was. Yeah. I mean, that was absurd. I don't know that I've ever seen it. I was sitting there with CJ and Samaj this morning. We were watching the video, and everyone's just like,

how is this possible? Like what? Like that dude is a literal different animal. There's a reason why didn't coach come out and call him? Like he's, I know, I think he said like, he's a freak.

Like he's, he said something about like, he is like a gift to, from the football gods. I think is what he said. He is our Jordan Davis. Like like a gift from the football gods, I think is what he said. He is our Jordan Davis. Like, you know, 6'3", 350 and can run. Yes.

Oh, my God. How about Mason Graham? And him and I can't remember who else. And Ernest Hausman just literally like Drew Allard was nearly over the line and they said, no, Drew Allard was nearly over the line, and they said, ah, no, we're good, and then just shoved him back, just getting as low as possible. I showed you at the bar, Justin, but anybody out there,

it was the third and one where Michigan got the ball back and then scored on that next drive, I believe, to go 14-3. Go watch that third and one because Mason Graham is off balance. He's getting pushed back, and he rips under, and he's able to get some pressure onto Aller and push him back. And then Ernest Houseman, dude is like literally two inches from the ground with his cleats into the turf, like push.

Like it is one of the plays that encapsulates this Michigan team and their grittiness and their determination. And they're just willing to just scratch and claw their way to victories. Like that's what is so fun about this team, man. They're so selfless. They make the plays that are, you know, not the flashy plays all the time, but they make

the plays that win you football games. And there are so many guys that we can talk about that did it all Saturday long, man. I mean, everybody came up with big plays all over the field on defense and on offense, man. I mean, you know, McCarthy running the ball, obviously didn't call his number in the past game, but I mean, he was playing his ass off running the ball that fourth and one conversion he jukes two defenders to get like eight or nine yards obviously we talk about dono we haven't really mentioned blake quorum warrior is the word that i would use to describe him the bloody face 145 yards that was my tim

tebow moment of tim tebow with like the red all over his face. Like it was, I mean, that was the perfect picture. The perfect, just all in one image of that was the trip to happy Valley. And you come out victorious. Now, does anyone think I keep hearing this take? I think this is BS, but I keep hearing people say, well, there goes JJ's Heisman, you know, whatever. I'm like, what are you talking about? They won the game. They won the game. He threw 98% essentially. I know,

I know that like, you know, they're going to say that he had a bad game, but I, here's what I put out on Twitter today. And I'm glad that a lot of people are agreeing with it. Here's the thing. Yes. Did he have a, he didn't have a great stat line, right? Like he's not, you know, Jaden Daniels, 500-plus yards altogether, which was unbelievable, by the way, if you watch that. That was like video game numbers. But Michigan doesn't win that ball game if J.J. McCarthy isn't at quarterback.

So even though he's not throwing the ball, he is unbelievably important. And he has grit. He uses his legs. He has leadership. There's a lot of things that J.J. brings to the table that other quarterbacks just haven't. And honestly, you look at it, the quarterback on the other side of the ball did not have that yesterday. He didn't have a good stat line either. They had similar stat lines, really.

Obviously, Drew, you know, he ended up throwing the ball more because they were trying to play from behind. And JJ just didn't throw in the second half. But he has that it factor. And so, honestly, first of all, I agree with you, Kalen. You know, does it take him out of the race? I don't know. Maybe in some people's eyes that are just, you know, box score watchers. But here's the thing.

He doesn't give a shit. He does not care the least bit, which that's the thing I love most about him. Big team guy. Love it. Yeah, I mean, you know jj just again does a lot of things that you're not going to see in the stat sheet and all the people that want to um you know scoreboard watch and you know make their takes off of that then more power to you uh everybody has a voice on the internet for better for worse but you know i'd like to take some time to give myself a pat

on the back because i've been calling drew al or mid like all year haven't i i feel like i i don't know i could probably go back in some of the old podcasts i don't have some time to give myself a pat on the back because I've been calling Drew Aller mid all year, haven't I? I feel like – I don't know. I could probably go back in some of the old podcasts. I don't have enough time to go watch and find those moments. But I think I've said it on multiple podcasts, whether it's on this one, whether it's on Bleacher Report or the Voice of College Football. But Drew Aller had 3.2 yards per attempt. There's no way that he played anywhere close to J.J. as we know.

J.J. just didn't have the opportunity to throw, you know, because when he did, he was seven of eight, but he would have had to been rolling out every single time because Michigan couldn't handle chop Robinson. But yeah, I mean, you know, we talked about James Frank a little bit, but that's, that's who Penn state is and they're going to go 10 and two and probably go win a cotton bowl and, you know, and the hype cycle start over next year. So I agreed. Also let's talk about, you know, this is the best common opponent

for Michigan, Ohio state, right? Both of them beat Penn state. Obviously I would say both in very like tough fought games. Like it was, you know, I don't think Ohio state won in, in like glaring fashion or anything like that. But I believe that Ohio State, I believe, rushed for like one yard per carry against Penn State in that game. And then Michigan rushed for five yards a carry, I believe, in our game. I think it was 1.9 for the Buckeyes. 1.9, there you go. Yeah, I mean, they just – you know, Marvin Harrison is the difference maker.

And that's somebody that is – I mean, we'll talk about him as we get closer to that game. But, you know, he's the whole offense for Ohio State for the most part. So, but yeah, Michigan was able to really move it on the ground, man. And even though Penn State knew exactly what was coming, you know, maybe a player safety issue for Michigan that they could raise a concern over. But Michigan, you know, punched them in the mouth and they had no response. And that's what Michigan does. And that's what they've done the last three years, man.

I mean, there's really not much more to say on that front because they just – they have an O-line that's nasty. They've got running backs that can find extra yardage. I mean, even Donovan was – you know, when he was getting hit in the backfield, he was still finding a way to wiggle out and get an extra couple yards that would make it a little bit easier in second and third downs. So, tight ends were fantastic as well, I thought, in the run game. I mean, B mean bready you know

getting in there like it was just a great game from from the michigan front and the backs i mean it was and jj too because he was a part of the run game so obviously the i mean shout out to the o-line i just unbelievable performance and especially when a lot of people and i'm not going to say myself not included in that right like i a lot of people, and I'm not going to say myself not included in that, right? Like a lot of people were questioning, is this O-line as good as it has been the last two years? You know, they haven't been like unbelievable in terms of run game this year. Obviously, JJ's a different guy, so they're able to pass the ball. But they showed if we need to run the ball,

we can fucking run the ball anytime we want even if you know it's coming so i it's you know they they shot up a lot of haters yesterday that's for sure is anyone really surprised that when we make the o-line coach our head coach we just run the ball a bunch all right our guy that the guy that was running the whole program yesterday is our head coach offensive coordinator and o-line coach yeah everyone's like how did they run it 30 times in a row well i yeah that's a pretty makes sense to me well you know i think i can't remember just we talked about this on bleacher report we did a live stream and i may have mentioned it here but you know this continues the trend of michigan being able to really run the ball against the best rush defenses they face.

Against Penn State and Nebraska, who are both, I believe, top five nationally in rush defense. Michigan, I think, ran for over 476 yards, I think, if I'm doing the math in my head right. They ran for 227 against Penn State, 249 against Nebraska. So, I mean, the two best rush defenses, they just take it to them. And so I think that's, you know, the trend continues. Where Michigan, they play a good rush defense.

They will incorporate J.J., and it makes it a lot tougher to slow them down on the ground. And you're not able to tee off because you've got the threat of J.J. pulling outside, and you've got the threat of both backs in the game at the same time. They did that a couple times. So, yeah, I mean, they get up for the big games, right, with the rush game. And it's maybe not as dominant as it was all year last year. But, like, I was looking at Blake's stats he has a hundred less carries than he did last year and he played he's played 10 games this year he played a 10 and a half games last year because he got hurt in the

11th game right so well he's got a hundred less runners as he played that's a good point too right but he's got a hundred less less rushes but he's you know he's like 0.6 yards uh less per carry which is not you know insignificant but he's not getting as many carries and as many opportunities so and he's still having a fantastic year so i think it's save some of that tread on the on the tires right like get him keep him healthy for ohio state and and that's going to be fun to to watch when he's able to go up against the buck guys full strength for the first time. Knock on wood. Got one more game, but, you know. Knock on wood. Well, I will say that was kind of fucked up of you to say

because it was literally this game last year that this happened. Michigan's going to air it out 50 times against Maryland, and it's going to be fine. All right, perfect. Was Kahlil Mullins hurt for yesterday? He was in. He was in a little bit, but yeah.

It was interesting with how much we ran the ball that he didn't get more love. Right. That's interesting. I mean, also Donovan was playing really well. He was running really hard, so I think maybe you run with the hot hand. But I will

say, to your point, there were a lot of short-yarded situations where Colell would have been useful, for sure. But I also think Cherone's probably like, I'm not taking Blake Corham out of this game. He is the best player on the field, and I'm not going to take him out of the game. And so I'm assuming that that's the case. Jack, are you winning your chess match no where does sharon right no i know it was a lot players say it again i wonder where sharon ranks

amongst chess players um i don't even know how chess ranking works. CJ is very good. Cornelius is, like, really, really good. Him and Donovan play. Ladarius plays a lot. They've got a whole crew that play chess all the time. Wow. Yeah.

I think my favorite movie scene ever is Harry Potter when they're playing chess. And Hermione's just like, Ron, no! It's so funny every time. You ever see those AI recreations of them that are going around right now? Those are fucking incredible. So funny. Welcome back to the podcast,

Jack. Thank you. It's hard to get a word in edgewise with Tanner up there. I'm just standing over top of me. I wait for you to talk and I wait and, and then Kalen talks, and then you don't. So I don't – if there's ever like a two-second pause, that's because I'm waiting for someone to talk. No, you guys are talking ball.

I'm letting you talk ball. Talk ball. Talk vibes. How were the vibes yesterday at Pretzel Bell, Jack? Vibes were incredible yesterday, guys. Vibes were incredible. Like you guys said, there's probably five, six, 700 people there yesterday. I heard 7,000.

I heard the number was 7,000, honestly. I mean, it was insane. I feel like I was at Skeeps on a Thursday night in college. Like, I couldn't even move. It was an electric factory. It was an electric factory. I feel like we could have filled up the big house with how many people were at Pretzel Bell yesterday. There were 107,000 people at pretzel yesterday.

Yeah. Okay. Which actually speaking of that, how hilarious is it that it was the second largest crowd in Penn state history and they witnessed a loss to Michigan. Very funny. Yeah. It's beautiful.

Especially since they're these Penn state fans. I will say, I want to give them credit. A lot of people that were there yesterday said that they were like awesome uh very nice which i was kind of shocked to be honest with all the things considered all these circumstances i assume that we get treated like shit on the road um but uh they have this obsession with michigan the whole like you know they'll go around the world and and hold up signs to say Michigan still sucks or something like that.

I just love that. Does Penn State have an actual rival? Pitt, I think, is their rival. I mean, Michigan-Ohio State is who they consider, but Michigan-Ohio State don't really. I mean, it's, you know, Michigan-Ohio State get up for that game, but it's not. The rival considers them a rival.

Pitt. I think Pitt's not me. They have a rival that the rival considers them a rival. Pitt. I think Pitt's that game. They play Pitt every year, I think. Don't they play Michigan State for a trophy? Yeah, land grant trophy, I think, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're literally our fourth rival, I would say.

Yeah, Ohio State, Michigan State, Notre Dame. I like the little brown jug. Fifth rival? True. Yeah, Ohio State, Michigan State, Notre Dame. I like the little brown jug. Fifth rival? True. Fifth rival. Fifth rival. So congratulations to Penn State.

Top five. That's top five. Nebraska got the Bustamble. Oh, Nebraska. Yeah, six. USC coming in is kind of cool because I remember Michigan, USC, and the Rose Bowl a lot as a kid, so maybe seventh? So they're just missing out on top five I feel like, which is pretty good.

Top ten. Yeah. We're top ten. That's good. What was the final score of that Ohio State-Michigan State game yesterday? It was 38-3. Not as much as Michigan-Michigan State.

I will say, I was watching that game. Covered the spread. Did they? Yeah, it was like 31 or something, 32. Did you guys see the tweet after Michigan beat Penn State and it was MSU-Dalen? He's like, now it's all up to Ohio State. And one of my friends is like,

you literally play Ohio State tonight. Just like, you're hanging your hat on to Michigan. Like their most successful season is Michigan not winning the Big Ten again. That's kind of the place to be. I also saw – I think it was Snoopy Sparty, who's actually pretty funny on there. He's like less annoying than daily MSU, I would say, more fun. But he tweeted like the one thing that we can take away from this game,

no matter the outcome. And he's talking about Michigan-Penn State, not his own game. Talking about Michigan-Penn State. He said, the one thing that we can all take away is that J.J. McCarthy is not in the Heisman race, and we don't have to hear that anymore. And I was like, congrats. That's your one big win for the year is that you now don't have to hear from Michigan fans about J.J JJ and the Heisman race.

I would like to comment on a tweet that I saw from an MSU fan that was very funny. But there's rumors that there's like six – between six and nine teams that allegedly may have paid to go advanced scout as well in the Big Ten. So that's the point, like the context. And I can't remember if it was Snoopy or one of the MSU guys that's very funny, but his comment on Twitter was like, once it comes out that Michigan State was not one of the six –

between six and nine teams that was advanced scouting, just remember that Mel Tucker was more dedicated to beating his meat than beating Michigan. And I really enjoyed that tweet. That's elite. That's elite. That is – I mean, when you can make fun of your own team, that's where – that's when you're good.

Yeah. That is an absolute elite tweet. Speaking of our rivals too, I want to say something. I want to talk about Ohio State for a second. I want to put it out there, and I want to get you guys' feelings. How different is the strength of schedule in Michigan and Ohio State right now? Michigan has, you know, this is their one big win, right? But Ohio State, their two big wins are against the same team that Michigan just beat and then a three-loss Notre Dame team that was not, if you want to call an unimpressive win,

that was not a convincing win by any means by Ohio State and South Bend, and that Notre Dame team lost to the worst Clemson team in like 15 years. So how different are they? That's my question. I would say it's not an argument anymore like for people to bring that up against michigan's strength of schedule compared to the opponents ohio state's place or played and you look at the teams the the similar teams that they've played and the fact that michigan beat them on the road by a wider margin than Ohio State is doing at home, I think it's just an irrelevant argument now.

People can't use that. And if they do, they're idiots. Perfect. That was the response I wanted. I mean, now one of their other, probably their third best win, depending on how you view Rutgers, is Wisconsin, who has lost to Indiana and Northwestern back-to-back. And they got handled by Northwestern at home.

Indiana and Northwestern are 13-14 in the Big Ten, Tanner. They're terrible. Well, maybe Michigan State's – Northwestern may be bowling, by the way. That's how bad the – I mean, that is unreal, first of all. Shout-out to that interim head coach. I honestly got to give him props.

Their season was essentially just thrown in the trash when they had to fire Fitzgerald at the beginning of the year. Yeah, that interim head coach. Dang, I forgot about that. He should be coach of the year. Yeah, the biggest scandal in Big Ten history is not hazing. I don't know if you guys saw Bomani Jones' clip. That was very funny.

Talking about – I don't know if I want to really talk about it, but it was very, very funny. Talking about, like, the hazing and stuff. And he's like, you mean to tell me signs are worse than genitalia on somebody's face, you know? Like, that's what the Northwestern shit was. And that's what we're talking – like, that's what the Northwestern stuff was. Like, it was pretty horrific. what we're talking about. That's what the Northwestern stuff was like. It was pretty horrific.

So, but we're talking about signs. I want to go back to, I feel like I say some shit every time, bro. I get, I know you just fucking with me. My work's always cut out for me when we have you on here. I know, I know. But I want to go back to, to Ohio state and just looking at Rutgers the last two weeks. So last week Rutgers against Ohio state, 361 yards, 232 rushing yards.

Rutgers against Iowa, 127 total yards, 34 rushing yards. Interesting. And got shut out, correct? Yes. Did they have any hurt? No, I don't believe so. No, when it was in they they were fine i i watched that game listen to our guy jake butt on the call um who is also just he's so good he's i

i'm a biased biased jake butt listener but i love uh love listening to him i think he's great on the call for btn um but uh yeah i mean that's where like i you know these games are one in the trenches and i i think if you're watching michigan and ohio state right now like if if you're not taking michigan in the trenches what do you what are you thinking what do you what are you watching i want to hear it i kind of want to see a similar game plan as far as, like, running the ball that we did against Penn State, against Ohio State. I think that's just fucking. I don't think JJ really needs to throw the ball. Like, just fucking run the clock, run the ball, and win the game with the trenches.

Maybe every, like, ten plays we throw the ball. That would be nice clock run the ball and maybe every like maybe every like 10 plays we throw the ball that would be nice to mix in just for fun yeah i think we're just switching on games right so like this game will run a lot next weekend jay jill throw for 600 yards then we'll run for another 400 we'll just kind of flip-flop it throughout the rest of the season. I like it. I like it. All I know is we are 13 days out from Ohio State coming to the big house. And I'm already nervous, I'll be honest. I'm already like, that's going to be a big one. Is that the biggest, most game in michigan stadium history now um maybe certainly in the harbaugh era because you're able you potentially have the the ability

to build upon the back-to-back wins and then just like basically shut the door and right the potentially shut the door in the ryan day era right you get to shut out all the bullshit from all the other fans of, oh, you only won because you had signs of Michigan goes out and does what it has done the last two years. It is going to be a bloodbath on Twitter for Mr. Ohio, for the OSU, for all those fucking clowns, and I can't wait. But it is – I mean, you know, you think about like 1969, right? If you want to go all the way

back, Bo's first year, beat Woody Hayes, the best team in college football history before they lost to Michigan that year. 97 sets up the national championship. It's up there. That place is going to be juiced. Is DJ Ray doing that game? I'm going to need him to be on his game.

We should probably talk to him. get him some juice, some suggestions. Can we get some private eyes from Hall & Oates potentially? Can we get some really just subtle digs, maybe not so subtle at a certain Mr. Third Bass? Can we get that in the playlist? I saw the sun is good. Is there a good third bass song? I'm trying to think.

We could come up with something. We could go to Rap Genius and just search lyrics. They do all genres, I guess. We could just find third bass in a song and try to time it correctly. We'll give them some suggestions. I just can't wait for that day i cannot wait for that day the morning that we wake up i'm gonna first of all i'm

not sleeping friday night on november 24th um there's zero percent chance and i'm just gonna be i will i can promise you i will be the first car waiting in line to get into the lot on Saturday morning. I'll promise you that. So, all right. You guys got anything else? I think, I mean, that was – I'm still fired up. I'll be honest. I've been, like, calling people this morning just, like, recapping shit.

And, like, I'm still fired up. That was one of the funnest like that was an awesome day that was an awesome day yeah i uh the rankings look like on tuesday georgia has to be one dude they just demolished number nine old miss i mean they look like who who did missouri just beat to tennessee by like 29 points so i, I mean, Georgia, Georgia far and away has a better resume than Ohio State. It is not close. It is not close. And I mean, again, I think there's an argument that Michigan and Ohio State are not as far off in terms of strength of schedule as people say.

And, you know, you go, it's just going to be funny when they still rank him ahead of us after we went and everyone's saying, hey, in order to get ranked higher, you've got to go beat a good team on the road. We did it. You know? So, yeah. I think he's reflected that.

UNLV 8-1, by the way. I mean, you know so yeah ohio state's best you know best win is michigan's best win now and um you know i think it'll probably be georgia one ohio state two michigan three because they're gonna you know hold on to ohio state as long as they can but you know it's a it's a group of of uh folks in the committee that are you know pretty stubborn i found over the you know what it's almost been a decade of this now is this the ninth or tenth year of the playoff like they're pretty pretty stubborn for the most part so um i would assume georgia leaps and michigan stays at three and doesn't really matter because you know michigan has everything in front of them and um you know

they'll you know if they went out they'll probably be number two um just like last year and uh you know maybe this year they'll if they get there maybe there will be a Michigan-Georgia matchup that we've been waiting for for a couple years. Would love it. Would love it. All right. Well, shout out to North Peak Brewing again. The Hale IPA was delicious yesterday. It's going to be delicious here over the next few weeks and definitely on November 25th.

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