Blue By Ninety - Michigan Handles Wisconsin Behind Bryce Underwood’s Sharp Day

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

Justin and Tanner recap Michigan’s handling of Wisconsin and the continued development of Bryce Underwood.

All right. Welcome back to Blue by 90, presented by Feldman Chevrolet of Highland. I am Justin joined by Tanner today. It is October 6th, Monday after Michigan beat Wisconsin this weekend, 24 to 10, a little bit of a snoozer kind of. I don't know. It felt like, you know, you felt like you were waiting for Michigan to pull away all game. And it took until the fourth quarter, really, for them to even get up two scores. So ultimately at the end of the day, a win is a win in the Big Ten. I think that with like what a 17 point spread, you know, you wish that you, you know, handily won that. But my biggest takeaway was pretty much that Wisconsin never had a chance of winning that game. After they went up 7-0, you know, Michigan goes in scores immediately.

after that, their offense didn't do anything all day long. No, it was extremely hot in the big house, by the way. Thankfully, you know, thankfully, it was on the Michigan side. So right around halftime, the shade kicked in, the sun kind of peaked over the press box. And I wasn't dying. I'm not as red as I would have been otherwise if I was on the opposite side of the section, like some of our friends' season tickets are located.

So, yeah, it was kind of a snoozer. You know, it felt more like it should have been like a 55-degree noon game with, like, Beth Mowens on the call on ESPN2 back in the day. Yeah. You know, that first drive, Wisconsin had a lot of success, and you're kind of sitting there, like, what's going on? And it was just kind of a few things that happened. But beyond that, Michigan was pretty dominant, right?

I mean, Michigan put up 450 yards. Wisconsin was about 250. You know, a couple things offensively for Michigan kind of prevented them from making this look a little bit better than it is. We've said that a few times this year, and I hope we stopped saying that. but yeah in the stadium top tired water six dollars i'm just like a little aggravated with the commercials we'll say the stadium experience being able to use your phone uh during the timeouts is is great i love seeing our boy anthony out there talking to blake quorum like those moments

the hero of the game but otherwise it's just a lot of filler so i'm like i want to see what's going on college football so anyways um yeah man it was uh you know i mean 24 10 whatever i thought Michigan played pretty well outside of a few, few things. I thought Bryce played his best game at Michigan. You know, he puts up, what, 264 yards through the air, has, I tweeted this. And I'm going to, if you think, like, I had people reply to me. And I have my, like, unless you follow me, I don't see the notification, but sometimes I'll click on the tweet and see what people say, just so I don't see a lot of nonsense.

If you think that Bryce Underwood's, like, not good or, I don't know what you're watching. is a number of throws, a number of ways he moves in the pocket, he gets outside, he makes throws, he makes good decisions that you just don't see from a true freshman, 18-year-old quarterback. And the kid is just, I think the by-week helps a lot. I think Bryce played extremely well. I mean, he would have had what? I mean, we were just talking about a pre-show, like that Samaj slant RPO, like if Samaj catches that, he might go off away. Yeah. I mean, he's at least going to get maybe 20, 30 yards, and then you maybe have a chance to take a shot with your timeouts late in the half.

Kendrick Bell dropped one that Bryce made a great play to get out. It was a little high, but Bryce is running to the sideline thrown across his body with like four defenders chasing him. Just him getting around those guys was impressive. The play that did get completed, it was kind of like a yakety sax moment for Samaj. And we'll talk about Samaj. But, you know, he bowels the ball, catches it, runs, gets inside the 10, fumbles it, falls on it. but Bryce just made a lot of big-time throws.

I thought the throw to Andrew Marsh, I think that was either late in the first, early in the second quarter, was a really, really nice throw. Marsh makes a great play. I think Bryce is getting to a point where he clearly trusts McColley and Marsh a lot to make those types of throws.

I would love to force feed those guys, the football. I think they're clearly the two best wide receivers. And then you hope that you get Hogan Hansa back. We've talked about, we've talked a lot about, you know, on this show, I'm sure that Worm and Jordan Strack have talked about it on their show. I've talked about it on our show with BB's Big House.

You want Marsh to step up. Like that's your best chance this year for a legitimate number two wide receiver. And he want Hogan Hanson to be there. And he was dressed but didn't play. So I'm all over the place. Probably for USC. That would be huge, I think. I think Michigan's going to be able to run the ball on USC,

but you definitely want all your weapons available, especially with the offense that they have. And Michigan is going to have its work cut out for them. But yeah, all in all, all over the place. year, but I thought it was a really solid game. I mean, nothing really to complain about. As I left the stadium, I felt a lot better than I did, like, in the stadium in the

moment. Yeah, I agree. I think that there, I mean, we all would love to dominate every game, you know, obviously. I think that there, this really should have been like a 31, 38 to 7 game, really, honestly. That's what

it should have been. I, and that's that part, to your point is disappointing. And the fact of like, Can we step on somebody's throat when we know that they're down and they don't have a chance of scoring? I just actually went through the drives and after Wisconsin's first drive, they didn't get past Michigan's 49 yard line until the final field goal that they had. So they had a ton of consecutive drives where they didn't go anywhere. And so that's where I'm like, if I'm wink in the defense, I'm looking at this offense like, hey guys, like we're, they're going nowhere. We need you to go, at least go kick field goals, right? Go get us some points

on the board and let's put this thing away so that we can get some of our younger guys reps in the fourth quarter. So that's really where I'm at with what I saw. Well, there was, you look at the drive charts and so I can, and if you want to interject here, feel free because I'm just going to kind of talk about both teams and offense defensively for Michigan. But, you know, after the five-play a steady favorite touchdown um you know michigan has some three and outs they have some moments where you know people were what let me ask you this on that fourth and one where it looked like march got the first down on second down and then they kind of get stuff and they come out and they they do the chains and then they review it but it's a huge pile i don't know how they

overturned it right do you want chiron to go for it there when you're playing defense that well against a team with a third string quarterback because i don't i heard a lot of people in my section complaining. That was one of the, I saw people on Twitter. I'm like, you're at your own 25. This team cannot move the ball. What are we? Literally, I mean, if you go for it there and don't get it, you gift them a field goal. And that's their only chance at points. Yes. Right. So I agree with you. I mean, everybody as a, you know, casual fan wants to be Dan Campbell and just go for it on fourth down all the time. Yeah, that's super fun when you get it a lot. But that was a smart, smart play and I'll be honest

Jerome Moore has like made maybe incorrect decisions in the past in those types of situations and yeah it's not the fun fun call there but I think it's the right call but to your point I think that there were just so many times with this offense where it's like you feel like okay let's go

this is the drive this is the drive and then you somehow you know kick yourself with a drop or a penalty or what you know we really didn't have that many penalties, but it was more so like, I mean, the drop specifically, we can talk about that for a second. It's just frustrating because your first and 10 and you have a drop that would have set you up for either a first down or a short yard and second down and you drop it. And then what do you do? Do you run on second and 10 every time? Right. So then it's just like, okay, I just felt like

it was like a sputtering thing where Michigan had so many chances. They didn't look like bad by any means. And I think credit to Wisconsin's defensive line, too. Their defense is pretty good. Their defense is pretty good. They're specifically their D line is really good against our front. And like they gave Alabama some fits honestly. Like Alabama did not push them around. So I want to say that. And to your point, like I think Michigan was able later in the game because again, I tweeted out

run, run, pass repeat. And I hate run run pass. Right. Because if you if you're obviously this team can run. but this game you saw and again what other teams have done to Wisconsin is you can throw the ball like their secondary is not that great like they've got a really good front but you could you could throw the ball they did run for 175 yards I thought later in the game they were able to kind once Sprague kind of cleaned up some of his issues I thought he was better later in the game he had some whiffs but I think you you know again I get emotional in the moment maybe that's not a good thing that there's service Justin I just don't I can't tweet you you uh having service in the

stadium is a liability no which is funny because like road road games that I haven't been to like I don't tweet really I just text our group chats or whatever but maybe that's why because I can't text a group chat in the stadium because I don't know if you guys are getting it anyways I hate the run run pass you know especially like there was one sequence where again spray got blown up so it's second and 13 they run it again it's third and 10 and just putting your freshman quarterback in a situation where the defense can pin their ears back and they know that you're going to throw the football I think is always a difficult thing but again this how many times have been

Michigan put up 450 years of offense last year. I don't maybe one against Northwestern. If that wasn't it, then they didn't at all. So, I mean, we definitely did not throw for 270 yards ever. No, no. I mean, it's funny because this is, we're like bitching a little bit right now, but then you go look at the box score and you're like, that's Bryce's best game by far, right? And like, we haven't had a 100 yard receiver since Roman Wilson in 2023. And so like, yes, we're bitching and it could have been a 38 to 7 game where you just, like, are, you know, have no mistakes. And I think that that is like a concern.

But at the end of the day, you have a ton of bright spots. I mean, Donovan McColley is a huge bright spot in this game of emerging as wider receiver number one, which we kind of knew he was, but waiting for him. I mean, this was his first touchdown, I believe, right? So, yeah, I mean, Bryce only has three passing touchdowns. And, again, like, the people that don't watch the games are going to have a field day with that. Of course. It doesn't matter, but, like, he has, I mean, he's had a lot of drop touchdowns or, you know,

in the first game, Major Martian is not looking out of a touchdown. You know, McColley gets to the two-yard line. They run it in in this game. So, again, like, the raw stats are not there offensively in terms of, like, Bryce lighting it up, but Bryce is playing really good. Yes. Like, he is exceeding my expectations in terms of what I had for him as a true freshman. And you see it start to slow down for him, too.

Like, he's reading the defense. I know Jay Doe posted. I think he got to his fourth read on a dump down to Jordan Marshall. It was literally like, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's happening, guys. Like, if you're a Michigan fan, it is happening. Like, all the things that have been said about him are happening. There's still work to be done.

He's got two more years in this year to develop and get better. And, I mean, how quickly he picks things up and how quickly he's adjusted to playing college football in the Big Ten, I think is extremely impressive. So those people that are in my mentions, like, oh, he's mid, he's average. like you clearly don't watch football and you want to you know be a moron on the internet that's totally fine that you're prerogative but like i don't sit here and i'm like oh julian sayans you know i watch the games he's a good quarterback like you can you can have that take you if you like other teams it just blows my mind yes i i totally agree with you um i mean that's just like classic fans right on on the that's the internet right i'm gonna be honest i like to push

narratives of course people are going to be haters um and box uh score watchers by the way Real quick, because we're talking about narratives. Can we talk about how terrible Texas is and that's not a ranked win anymore? That makes me not a ranked win. Penn State is a complete fraud. Washington had to score 24 unanswered late in the third and then the fourth to beat Maryland. Like they were getting smoked and the Maryland just collapsed. But like, you know, some of those wins don't look too good, man.

No, those wins don't look too good. But our wins, Nebraska, I mean, you know what I mean? I mean, Michigan State, I will say there was no. Nothing better than Saturday and Sunday scrolling on Twitter and being watching Michigan State and Penn State fans talk about like their coaches buyouts. I was asking people at the tailgate like, what's fickles buyout? I mean, something's $60 million and I don't think that was right. Yeah, they are, I don't know. I guess in all to wrap that conversation all in one, basically, there aren't that many good teams.

Ohio State is one of them. I'll be honest with you, right? There aren't that many good teams. Miami, maybe Oklahoma, but here comes back like, I think, I think this is a year where you just make the playoff, right? Make the playoff and see what happens. We talked about this early in the year when the schedule released at Michigan, it's pretty favorable, right?

And you're seeing it play out now. So the next two games, if you can go 2 and 0, you're going to go into that last Saturday, November 10 and 1, probably regardless what happens, you're going to make the playoff. So just get in there. I agree with you. I agree with you. Going back to Bryce, I wanted to say one thing on him, too. We are definitely all over the place with this podcast.

If you listen to us, you know that's how we do it. We're not very structured. Yeah, that's a fact. So I would say with Bryce, knock on wood, here's the thing that I don't think we all expected. We all expected him to be super athletic, have a cannon. you know, make some, make some awesome plays. I don't think we expected to make essentially like zero mistakes. Like, he has, I mean, yes, he's had some, like,

he had like the one flutter ball. He, you know, overthrew a couple guys. I think he could definitely be better in, like, not rocketing the ball when it's a five-yard outrout or something like that. But essentially, like, I kind of expected as a freshman quarterback who's super agile and wants to make plays, I expected him to throw into double coverage a bunch and, like, you know, be like, hey, we're going to make awesome plays.

We're also going to make a ton of mistakes. But the reality is that he really has not made any at all. So I want to say that. Like, yes, you can be frustrated that he doesn't have three touchdowns a game and 300 yards and whatever else, which, you know, honestly, if we threw it 40 times, you probably would. But I just want to touch on. that like knock on wood he has been really good at controlling himself and not forcing a ton of

things at all yeah i think michigan and chip lindsay have done a really good job of calling and designing plays to where he can get out and roll um he made a he made quite a few really impressive throws just on the run he had one in the on the first drive out of the out of half time in the third quarter um that that leads to i believe they missed the field goal on that drive but he has a couple of throws he has one to marsh and the flat marsh gets like 15 he's got another one where he has to level it right over a linebacker the guy next to me in the stadium's like that was a little scary and i'm like well you got that kind of arm i'm cool with it i mean he just he everyone i love that throw honestly i want i want him on the move well and i mean

you just kind of said it i don't necessarily think there's anything wrong with the way he's he's throwing up the ball right now in terms of like the speed um you know i'm never going to get mad at max Bretteson for dropping a football because that's just not what his game is right like that's obviously you want if you're going to throw the ball to max i kind of want bryce to be able to make an easy throw he can't do anything other than fire it in there because if he you know tries to take anything off it that might be a pick um so i don't think there's anything wrong with how he's throwing the ball right now he's clearly able to to you know throw the fastball but i think he does have um the ability to kind of take some speed off so i think he's playing extremely well he had a he had a

throw to McCulley, I want to say it might, I think it was in the fourth quarter because they were going towards the north end of the stadium. And he steps up in the pocket, kind of moves a little bit to his right. And he's off platform, just fires into McCoy for 15 yards. I mean, the kid just is playing extremely well. So again, if you, like, I saw some people who were like, I saw House State fans saying that, and again, it's a different era, so it's hard to know, like, you know, if Terrell Pryor is a true freshman was what he would do in Ryan Day's offense, for example. But like, bro, it's not even close. The things they're asking him, to do like terrell proverbs basically was running the ball he threw for a thousand yards in 12 games now he

didn't play every snap he didn't start the season so again i see all these things and i'm like you just are not watching if you're watching this kid play you can clearly see why he was a generational prospect and he's only getting better and like he is going to continue to improve they're gonna he's going to have more reps by the time we get to the end of the season he's going to basically be you know into a sophomore year in terms of just reps right um so i i think I think he's been extremely impressive. 264 yards, 9.8, an attempt with, you know, probably at least 50 yards on drops. Like, the kid is just playing his tail off and he's making really smart decisions.

And, you know, I think it's been, I think it's been really impressive to see. And I mean, yes, emphasis on he's super young, right? Emphasis on he's only getting better. And he doesn't have the tools quite yet. like there's not the full toolbox i mean i do think outside of a couple of those whiffs on the run blocking i thought our offensive line against a good defensive line they at least gave him a bunch of time in my opinion i i thought that it wasn't like he was running for his life there weren't like giant holes for justice haines like we've seen this year um but he was protected so i like

that um let's talk about this defense for a second i mean just unbelievable like i said Wisconsin after their first drive didn't get past Michigan's 49 yard line, so basically midfield essentially until that final drive, which they had a bunch of backups in on that final drive by then.

Yeah, man. So the drive chart, so 12 place, 75-yard touchdown. And then it goes six place, 22 yards punt, three and out five yards, five plays 19 yards punt, three and out eight yards punt, four-place, 23-yard,

punt that's into half time and then the entire third quarter three three and out one yard punt three and out five yard punt three plays 31 yards picked by rad more in the fourth quarter three and out five yards punt and then 13 plays 53 yards field goal when they took seven minutes off the clock can we i mean i don't want to change the subject again but like what the hell was luke fickle doing he just tick those was timeouts back is he trying to get fired to collect that buyout. I never seen anything like it. Weird. Why were we going for it, too?

I wanted to score just to be like, dude, if you're going to quit. I'm with you on that. I mean, we threw it like once, maybe we really ran the ball for the most part. But it was just weird on both sides of like, A, why aren't we taking an E and B, why aren't they calling time out? It was like,

it was very, I don't know. But so, you know, if you like the middle part of the game, so outside of the touchdown driving, and that that last field goal drive where you have in a bunch of freshmen in the secondary. I want to say Michigan had nine, it was nine drives defensively for 124 yards. So this is not a good college offense. And they're playing their third-chain quarterback transfer from Southern Illinois.

But once Michigan kind of settled into this game, they just didn't have any success. Can we talk about Rod Moore? I fucking love Rod Moore. Dude, how sick was that to be there for him, you know, his first game in the big house? since, I mean, dude, the moment he stepped on the field, that was his first play at the big house since, you know when. Since Interception, 2023, right? To put the game away.

I know, which is crazy. That seems like so long ago. Yeah, it's a lifetime ago, man. So obviously he had the interception. There were two other plays that were like, holy shit, his knee is fine. The first one is on that throwback screen early in the game where if he doesn't make this play that might go for like 40 yards. I mean, there's a big tight end,

so he's going to get caught. But he impacts the quarterback, the way he can throw the ball, like he can't get it there. He almost had to pick six, but even he didn't. But just the closing speed that he had, the throw had to kind of go outside

and then the titan had to kind of shift around his body to try to catch it, and it just was incomplete. And then the play that was super impressive. I don't know. I mean, you could, I'm sure you could see it on TV, but just in the stadium, like, I'm sure when that reverse happened, you saw the entire defense.

Nine or ten guys flow to that side. And I'm like, oh, shit. And then I see that, I see there. I'm like, this is not good. I see everybody's on the other side of the field. And then here comes number 19, just full speed. The guys out there to block it just falls down. I don't, I think he was not expecting Rod to be that quick.

That was, Rod didn't even like make a move. The guy was just like, oh, shit. Yeah. And then he makes the open field tackle. That might have been a touchdown. It did. it's a five-yard game. To your point, like, until you see Rod Moore come out of nowhere on the screen,

I watched the game back, until you see him come out of nowhere, you're like, wait, this is set up perfectly, and this is going to go for a while. It was a great call from Wisconsin. Yeah. And then the interception, I know people were complaining about maybe Jaya Hill with P.I., whatever. I mean, he did mull him. Let's be honest. It's fine.

But Rod's closing speed to get there. I mean, dude, he's a second round pick if he plays like that. Yeah. Like he is, like, he's like, he's, I. I don't think he's as big of a hitter, but he's like Kirby Joseph. Like, he's just kind of that center field safety. He can make plays on the ball. He's smart.

Like, man, that is a huge, huge add to this defense. Yeah. His ability to play nickel. He's versatile, right? So then you can do different things with T.J. Metcalf. Which T.J. Metcalf has been bawling, by the way. Yeah, he had a couple moments in the game that, you know, he made some plays, but I think he also had a couple mistakes that I remember.

I don't remember the exact plays, but I just remember seeing, you know, watching the replay. I'm like, oh, he probably, he probably was in the wrong spot. But he's, he's been, he's been playing his tail off. Shout out to his parents. They came to the Charles Wilson event. They were just the best people. I feel bad even saying that their son made a mistake on the football field. But it's football, man, like things happen. And it's, you know, he's, he's learning a lot of new defense and playing nickel. It's the hardest position to play in the secondary. So, yeah, I'm glad we have T.J. Metcalf on our team, man. He's, he's been, he's been bawling out.

But, man, like, I think you're seeing it with Jay Sean, too. like I think a couple of runs on that first drive where J-Shon maybe not knowing how to set the edge on a run play because he's not used to it from switching the linebacker to edge. Yeah, I think that's also just like being super jacked up on the first drive and like firing off the ball. Like there were a couple of those times where we weren't got,

we didn't stay in our gaps. It was like you found yourself three yards deep in the backfield and you're like, oh shit, he's running by me. I think that that is just like a lot of adrenaline and like wanting, you know, winks defense is. is you're pinning your ears back and going. And that's what we want of these guys.

It caught him a couple times on that first drive, but then they settle in for the rest of the game. They're good. Well, this isn't really a Jay Sean or Derek Moore. I know Derek Moore at the side, but this isn't really their kind of game because Wisconsin's not looking to drop back and throw it 35 times.

If they did that, the quarterback might have been carted off because they just, when they did throw the ball, I thought Michigan did a good job getting pressure. Rolder was coming on the blitzes. he lit up the running back and pass pro. I think this was a game where you needed to be sound in the way that you played. I think they kind of figured that out if the first drive made a couple adjustments and then they shut everything down.

So, yeah, Jeyer Hill, by the way, slowly, quietly having a phenomenal year. I mean, a lot of people have been down on him, but I think he's been playing great football. They didn't really test him too many times in this game. Yeah, I thought Jair had a phenomenal game. And I think you see Zieg Barry coming back. I mean, I saw some people complaining about Zeke on, I think he got toasted a little bit on kind of like a go route.

It was a quick hitter, though. But there's no help. There's no help. And you're bringing both backers. So, you know, that's just Wink's style. I don't always love it necessarily. But I think Zeeke played well. Obviously, you've gotten a lot of reps from Jayden Sanders.

We talked to Charles Wilson about that. Just, you know, playing a lot of football at a young age as a freshman is going to help you throughout your career, but also this year. So I think Michigan's secondary. You know, it was kind of a little bit of the question mark coming into this year, and there's still been some moments. Like, Hillman had a couple moments that, like, on that reverse, he was just completely out of position.

But I think you're seeing these guys continue to get reps, continue to get better. And that's what you're going to need the last Saturday in November. Like, you're going to have to have all these guys have a ton of experience. So it was good to see Zeke back again. I thought he played pretty well. And Jaya, I thought was dominant. I mean, they didn't even really try him. Rod Moore. I mean, dude, there's just, it's, these guys are getting healthier.

Mason Curtis is back out there. He was, he was banged up a little bit. So, like, you're just, you have more options. Yes. You have more options. Michigan's defense is very deep, in my opinion. I think that there really isn't anybody that you can point to that you're like, hey, man, that's a weak spot. Like, I really don't think so, honestly, right now. And so you look at the defense line. Troy Williams has been plugging that, that made up the middle of a lot better. since the Oklahoma game. And same with Damon Payne. I, you know, I wasn't so sure on Damon Payne early. He's been playing really well. Obviously, Jayshon, Derek Moore had a really good game. T.J. Guy, I think that would be one guy that I'm like, all right, I want to see him

in the backfield a little bit more. Um, you know, but overall, like Jimmy Roller's been playing really well. Cole Sullivan is going to be very good in a year or two. It might be this year. So that was my take that I actually put out on Twitter this morning is basically what, regardless of what Bryce in this offense can do, will do, Michigan's defense is good enough to take them to 10 and 2, 11 and 1 and make the college football playoff. Yeah, man. I got to say, too, I keep forgetting Damon Payne's number 44. So when I see him jog out there and I was in like row 80, which is a great view for like the entire game, but like trying to pinpoint certain players. I'm like, had PTSD, I was thinking of, like, Ben Mason. Like, is that, what's Max going out on defense for?

But, yeah, I think David Payne has continued to play well. He was really effective in the run game. Trey Pierce is, I mean, the deep, the interior D line is really deep. Yeah, I mean, Ed is kind of, I don't know who I would compare him to. He's kind of more of like a five technique. He's not necessarily interior, but he's still a defensive tackle. I mean, he's been playing really well. like they just are really deep and i think you again we talked about j sean barham going down the edge

but i think you just add another dimension of like a pure speed rusher with also some some power rush ability with a bull rush um man this defensive line is just really deep and then to your point the linebackers you know cole solvins continue to get better this isn't this i think cole solvin's probably better against like a true spread team than wisconsin i mean it feels like wisconsin was trying to get back to what like blue you should have never went air raid in the first place brother you should have done this from the start right i think they had no choice because they had They had no choice. They were like, we're just going to try to run it up the gut and whatever happens.

Yeah. So, yeah, defensively, I thought Michigan was really impressive. Again, I can't say enough about Rod Moore. I mean, we, it's like, so awesome having a guy from the 23 defense that was like the guy. And then he's back. Like, the injuries suck, but it's like to have him this year is just a blessing, really. I think he's going to help the secondary. I think he's going to continue to be a coach in the backfield for them.

Like, he is just, can we gush over him enough? Like, we just love Rod Moore, man. Like, he has been. He is what he's what you want out of a Wolverine. He's a captain. He's a guy that came back, is powered through, you know, an injury that's, I mean, not many guys come back after being out 18 plus months of injury, right? Like, it's pretty crazy.

I mean, you're closer to two years than you are to anything for him being on a football field and and contributing, right? And so for him to come back, be healthy enough to actually make those plays, like sometimes when that happens to players, they just never come back to be what they were. So I'm super pumped for that. He looks even better, man. I know. He looks quicker. He looks like he's faster. Like, I don't know what they did. They need to give me whatever that was. I'm down. Let's go do it. But no, like he's, I mean, you know, because this run that Michigan's had, you know, last year wasn't great overall, but it obviously was great beating Ohio State.

He's been here the entire time. He's been here since 2021. He committed to Michigan and stayed committed after the two and four season, after all the noise and the drama and everything around Jim Harbaugh at that time. And it's just been here. So he's been a staple of Michigan. I mean, I think he committed in 2019, right? And so he red shirts.

This is his fifth year. Like it just feels. like you have a piece of those special teams on this on this defense right now and it's just like I don't know man I don't know how to put it into words but it's just it's awesome having him come out and play and play so well yeah I agree I'm excited for him super proud of him awesome kid too yeah which you know makes it all the better um so let's talk about so we go to USC Saturday we can uh break that down here in a little bit and and um later on this week as well.

But just in general, looking at Michigan's schedule right now, you know, there is a path to the college football playoff, like a pretty serious path, right? And I think if you would have told me at the end of last year that Michigan would have a very clear path to the college football playoff next year, I would have called you high a shit, you know? But right now you're sitting here. If you can go win on the road in L.A.

against a I don't think you know good not great USC team is probably what I would call them but it's still a big they're like a fringe top 25 team right I think but if you can go win that then it's like all right you have Washington at home they're good no doubt so those are those are not like gimmee games at all but you're sitting there to your point regardless of what happens in the last weekend of November, there's a very clear path to getting into the college football playoff. And I want to say this, like, yes, we want to go 14 and 0 15 and 0 every single year. But I think you call that a major success

in year one of Bryce Underwood coming off of the season that was last year. Yeah, I mean, you talk about going to USC, obviously a very explosive offense. They've got one of the best offenses in the country, but it's Michigan, I think getting Rodmore back was huge for a lot of reasons, but I think this game especially, right? Just having additional bodies back there. Somebody who can really help his guys line up and know what to do. He's been there before he knows the defense. He's been playing in a variation of Wink's defense for five years, right? So he knows exactly where his guys need to be. I think that's going to be huge, make sure there's no bus and really force USC to kind of drive down the field. And then, you know, USC defensively, not great. just kind of Lincoln Riley's MO for basically his entire career. Maybe those early Oklahoma teams had some decent defenses. But, you know, if you can go, and we've seen some teams go to the West Coast in the Greater Los Angeles area, Justin, and really struggle. You know, this team is not 0 and 4.

They're a little bit better than that. So I think for Michigan, you know, it's definitely traveling to the West Coast, typically, like regular season has been tough. But, you know, Michigan did win. in Los Angeles and Pasadena, you know, a couple years ago. So you can do it. I enjoyed that day. Yeah.

I think your hat kind of alludes to something with the rose there. Shout out Woodson Whiskey, by the way. I think that was awesome, dude. You casually just dropped that we like chatted it up with Charles Woodson, which was amazing. So awesome dude, by the way, came in, signed a bunch of stuff for us, got to meet and greet with a bunch of people, came on the podcast, which was awesome. Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah, head to bushes.

Had to bushes grab a side bottle. I got all the stuff behind me, my right, over my right shoulder, a couple signed bottles of whiskey maize and blitz, the All-American Bourbon, and then the mini helmet. So shout out to Charles, man. He was, that was dope. Like, I'm not one to ever, like, get Starstruck. And I don't think I really was, but like, that's a, that's a cool moment for us.

Yeah. Just, you know, I mean, you started this thing, and then I kind of joined in, and we've been putting in a lot of work, a lot of effort. we talked i mean dude like we're chopping up with chris wormley a couple weeks ago and you know like i see andrew rsartis with the tailgates he's like how you've been like it's like but charles watson's a little different right and so that was a really cool moment for us um and all the people behind the scenes that nobody you know really sees unless you come to the tailgates if you just listen there's a ton of people that help us you know that keep us organized and and do all the things we need to do as kind of a media

brand um and so for them to get you know a moment to enjoy that and take a picture where charles was like that's cool that's what that's what it's all about and you know like our guy Caleb that that does a lot of work for us helps with with a lot of different things you know he was at his house to sit at his house Friday night and you know he had to sign jerseys some signs photos like it was just it was just really cool that Charles took time to do that in partnership with us and with bushes like and it was it was just like to your point like just super down to earth like like the guy's resume is insane it is kind crazy that like i know obviously we know him as like a michigan legend and like you hear the name all the time and he is the like he's literally the goat of michigan football i mean one of them

if you want to put him and uh and des and tom harmon as like one a one b one c i guess maybe but um it's like he literally is the goat and then but he did it at every level like and he's a guy too like Tom Brady ask of like did it at like 40 years old in the NFL which was insane and by the way he looks like he could suit up in the NFL tomorrow yeah even with gray hair like the gray beard and everything um also shout out to him he said that we could have the exclusive on his son committee i wonder where that will be i i don't know soon if you haven't watched it's like it's only like six minutes he's a busy guys there with fox big noon kickoff and uh i had a lot more questions i wish i could have asked so maybe in the future if he's not so busy we can do a little more formal of one but I think we'll have them on uh we'll have him on later this year hopefully again um it was it was tough we he was uh running late coming from the the um his son's visit which like caught them up which was not their fault at all um but it was like it was crazy with homecoming like he was absurd but there were like 300 people waiting in line and we're sitting there uh interviewing him

and I'm like, I want to sit here with you for an hour, but if we go any, like, longer than we do, these people are going to riot. But it was awesome to have a lot of chat. Yeah, because we, one question I did have, and I, you know, because he brought it up about his son being on a visit. And I think you mentioned it as well during that podcast, like, can you take off the Michigan Charles Wilson hat, put on the dad hat? And he's like, they're basically one and the same.

So it, I wonder where he's going to go to school, Justin. He's a four star, pretty good. pretty good resource at home to, hey, what kind of technique on this type of route or this formation? Like, pretty good kind of have to class. Imagine calling your dad like, hey, how'd I play today? Or like, how'd practice go? And it's just Charles Woodson, like, breaking down what you need to do. Yeah, that's, you've got a bit of an advantage over, over some other people. So. Mason Bliss, so, man. Shout out to the tailgates. So going back to the schedule. I feel this is a good kind of segue, and I'll talk about the tell you real quick.

But so Washington, that's going to be a noon kick. Yep. So, you know, we wanted a night game, but at the same time, from a competitive standpoint, got to kick off at 9 o'clock local time for the Huskies, body clock's a little off. You're up real early. So, you know, maybe it's, you know, maybe that helps Michigan. I do wish it was a night game, man. That feels like a perfect one to have kickoff at 7.30 under the lights.

But, you know, if you need to get a little raucous before. the game you want to be loud you want to let go of your your your ambitions or inhibition i guess is the word i'm looking for just i didn't go to college um get some amazing blitz man it'll get you lose you'll be yelling on third down get it loud uh it's delicious man it is and it's also i know it's still like 85 degrees here in ann arbor which is absurd because it's uh it's october but um as soon as you get into the fallish uh vibes which we're getting there i think this week um The Mason Blitz is like perfect cinnamon, apple pie. Oh my God, it's so.

We need some apple cider, actually, to mix with that. I think that might be on the list. At the Washington tailgate, we're going to do, hopefully it'll be like 50 and sunny for that one for noon. And then we can do some like maybe some hot apple cider with it. I was just thinking that little hot cider, little spiked hot cider. That might be a vibe, man.

I love it. All right. That was crazy though. And then, you know, number two pick in the NHL draft, Maddie Baneers is at our tailgate. Just chopping it up, man. I had a quick conversation. with the, you know, for the Seattle Cracket. So we're just, I don't know what's going on, man.

I really don't. It's kind of crazy some of the things that happened to us. And it's a lot of fun. It's literally like you just never know who's going to show up at the Blue By 90s. It's what's going to show up, and you got to come through. You know, we had DJ Array, Big House DJ, our boy Ryan, you know, always, always does a great job on the, on the, on the music and just having a great time. Yeah, I was thinking the ones and twos.

I couldn't think of the term, man. It's a real simple one. but no man it was just a it was a great time um would love to have have charles on the podcast again in a more like this type of setting you know maybe 30 minutes with him he's a busy guy but so go check out that podcast it's uh it's like six and a half minutes long so it's not going to take long to watch but yeah really cool to talk to charles and you know he stayed and signed all that stuff man so just really cool to kind of get back to his fans and you know with the partnership with bushes so go get some with some whiskey man it's well worth

it you know come to our tailgate try it out get a sample you know and then go go buy a couple bottles. Yeah, we had a great turnout at the tailgate this week. We'll be there 8 a.m. for that Northwest, or not Northwestern, for that Washington game, Purple Team, some purple team. Well, we would be in Wrigley for Northwestern. I can't wait for that. That's going to be amazing. So question for you is, what do we have to do to get Justice Haynes on the Heisman watch on the net like this is every time every week this poll comes out from on three and from all these things and nobody's talking about justice aanes but he's like i mean he's averaging over a hundred yards a game has a touchdown in every single game i'm sitting here like

all right what do we got to do to get him on the watch list i think it's just going to have to be huge plays and huge games right like and this schedule does not have a ton of those. So he's just going to have to consistently put up 125 plus yards with a touchdown or two a game. Who is the Heisman leader? Meteer's hurt. They have

the Bama QB. Okay. Interesting. Yeah, I mean, it's really hard to win it as a non-quarterback unless you're doing something crazy like DeVante Smith or Travis Hunter. I mean, when's the last running back that won? Derek Henry? Is that?

Probably. Blake would have won it in 22 if he didn't get hurt. Was Genti close? Yeah, Genti was there. But Genti also put like ridiculous numbers. And Haynes numbers are great, but they're not like. Maybe he was in the Mountain West. He'd be doing that.

Yeah, Genty in the Mountain West was like 200 plus yards. But he's fourth in the country in rushing. He's third in power four. Mod Hardy is a guy that I think of a running back is going to get to New York, unless Hardy really falls off because he's got 730 yards of, of offense through five games. So, you know, I think, I think, you know, the same way that Blake sort of got into contention was just,

he showed up, like, against Maryland, he had 240 yards, two touchdowns in a game that was kind of close, right? And so, again, I don't know, you know, I think with Justice it's going to have to be just like, because Blake made, I was at that Maryland game, he had huge touchdown runs on fourth, on a fourth down right before the half, he ran for like two or four yards he had a touchdown to put the game away basically um you know

he had he had just huge game so basically justice just needs to keep doing what he's doing and then hope it's like that 22 year where yeah bryce young wins it um but like or was it did bryce won it no bryce won it but if if if blake doesn't get hurt that year i mean he's definitely in the top four and going to new york for the ceremony if not being if not the leader Well, you know, because look at what Dono did against that defense. I mean, I think Blake would have had an opportunity to do that. So, no, Justice Haines is playing really well. I mean, again, that Wisconsin team, again, their front seven's really good.

They're back for, it's not great on the past game. So I think you're probably seeing a lot of teams just throw the ball because, you know, it's just the easier thing to do against Wisconsin. But he still had a really solid game. I mean, he had over 100 yards. he had two touchdowns. So, you know, it's, you know, 19-carries, 11-17 yards, six-hers and two touchdowns.

Like, that's pretty damn good against what was the number one rush defense in the country. Right. The other thing I want to point out is go look at Oklahoma's defensive stats on the year. They are very good. And so I, and that's a Brent Venables team who he's a defensive guru. So I know, obviously just has had the one run there.

You know, our offense didn't do much against them. but that like the way that we all freaked out on our offense and you know against it after that Oklahoma game I they're possibly one of the top defenses in the country so I I'm I'm not super worried about that and again I think our offense is is figuring it out so yeah I got to get we got to get justice in this conversation somehow I think that he will have the chance to be honest in the U.S.C. game as a primetime game against, you know, in L.A. like, I think that that's going to be national coverage. So if he has a breakout game of some sort against U.S.E, that could put him, like, on the map a little bit.

Yeah, so Oklahoma is second in the country, 64 yards per game against the run and also second in the country, two yards per carry. I mean, that's crazy. Yeah. And we, you know, I think, I mean, obviously Justice had the 75 yarder, but, you know, still had some success. I mean, it wasn't great on the ground in that game. But, you know, that's obviously a very good team. I mean, they're up to number six in the country, I think. So that's obviously not a bad loss for Michigan. And Michigan's up the 15th now. So opportunity these next two weeks. If you go 2 and 0, you're sitting there at 6 and 1, you go to Michigan State. You come back home against Purdue. I'm going off the top of my head. What is the, do you have the schedule up in front of you because it works out, man? We've got one moment. I think we've got a buy and then Northwestern.

That's right. Okay, so you have, so USC Saturday in the Coliseum, you come back, you've got Washington at home, a little bit of a revenge factor from last year's game in Seattle, not going Michigan's way. Then you go to Michigan State and then Purdue at home, by week, northwest. Western at Wrigley, at Maryland, and then you guys know the last one. So you're in an area where you win these next two games, you're six and one, you've got a four-game stretch against kind of middle, bottom-half, big 10 teams,

and you're 10-1, and you're probably in the playoffs. Yep. No matter what happens. And obviously, we know, you know, the last few times those teams have played, it's gone Michigan's way. At home, there'll be a lot of amazing blitzing me that day, Justin. And we're going to be up pretty early there. Also, I think that we were talking about this on Saturday after I might have had a couple

Maze and Blitz shots, a couple camp vodka waters, maybe a couple of blue by 90 beers mixed in. I might have done it all. But we were just talking about Michigan, Ohio State. Listen, Ohio State's good. We're not going to say that they're not. Their defense is probably even better than they were last year. You know, they did get rid of Jack Sawyer, so that helps usually when you get rid of a whiner and cry baby like that. Can I real quick on Jack Sawyer?

I was on eBay just like, I was just watching football yesterday after the Lions win, another win over a team from Ohio, you know, the Tigers got it done against the Guardians and the Lions have beaten Ohio teams last week. So just pretty ho-hum. But I was just like, man, I wonder what, you know, wonder what's on eBay, like Michigan memorabilia, just see what I can find. There was a mini helmet signed by Jack Sawyer, and it just says, fuck Michigan. I'm like, who's buying that?

Who's the target demographic here for this? Signing something, fuck Michigan when you never beat them in four years, specifically had a whole, like, article documentary thing written about you about coming back to beat Michigan and then lost them as 21 point favorites is hilarious. And then crying about the flag. then cried about the flag like crazy his his like i mean his legend his legacy from a michigan standpoint is awesome so awesome for us it's great i love it uh yeah because i don't know who's buying that like because you know the guys before because look they had our number they put four and oh

or whatever you can't put that you know you can't put oh and four you can't flip those numbers i don't think it would sell very well i don't know who's buying that now i agree with you They just go buy something from Bosa. The same people that are buying the schedule, like the National Championship Schedule T-shirt or Cup, and it says 13 to 10. Can I say, so anytime, like if we go, like we go visit family or whatever and we're closer to Ohio,

we will go and do whatever. Like we went to the county fair with my daughter. There was a lot of Ohio State stuff. There was a lot of national championship gear. And every time I would see the schedule on the back of the shirt or the hoodie. I would turn to my wife, and I'm like, you don't know how happy that makes me. Hey, you got the Natty. That's cool, man.

You got it. You want it. Awesome. You want to win the national championship for sure. But I just know when they get that and they turn it around. You look at the shirt from fanatics. I mean, that's the first thing. Your eyes go straight to it if you're them, right?

Like 100%. And I have something like this. It's not Ohio State, but, you know, I have the 2021 pint glass. Big Ten Chief has a score. And it always annoys me. And, like, I remember I tweeted it in a bunch of Michigan State fans, whatever, whatever. I would take that season over any, like, any season except for, like, three or four in my lifetime. Yeah, right?

So it's just so funny to me to see that 13. And it doesn't even say Teton. It says Michigan. Like, they have it on their shirt. I love it. Like, hey, I didn't want them to win the national championship. Not like Jack. Jack was a little crazy.

It's like, I want them to win it. Like, he said that, like, after the game. I'm like, no. You don't want them to win it. They do. Hats off. It was a great run. It's still hilarious.

And I know it bothers them. And it makes me happy. I agree with you. So anyway, so the, talking about Ohio State this year, they're very good. Sand is very good. He is super accurate.

Doesn't do anything crazy at all, but like doesn't miss, right? And I think that their offensive line is good. Joe Jackson's really good. Jeremiah Smith's unbelievable. Colonel Tate, I mean. They're super good. I still think, though, that come late November,

they're going to come to Ann Arbor, and it's like they're definitely not believing that they really can beat Michigan. That's how I feel. I think that they still, in this, you know, whatever is wrong with Ryan Day's brain of that he can't beat Michigan, and it all creeps in.

So they can beat Minnesota, 49 to 3 or whatever that score was. They can blow it everybody. They're still going to come up here and be like, I don't think, I don't know if we can do it. Because if Davis Warren could beat him, what's Bryce Underwood going to do? That's game 12, Bryce Underwood, right? Like that's almost a year in the program, Bryce Underwood.

And that's what we talked about earlier in the show with just his progress and continuing to develop and be able to get through his reads a lot quicker, understanding what the defense is showing him. I still am curious, like, I want to see them go up against a good offense. I agree. Because I know Washington was, you know, 58 points a game. And then, again, they go in the first three quarters, put up a stinker against Maryland. And maybe that's some of that kind of hangover from the Ohio State game.

You're at home and you just don't perform. And obviously, they balled out in the fourth. I can't take that away from them. But, like, I don't know if that's on the schedule. It's Penn State. Like, I would love to see, like, I obviously want Michigan to be. be in the Big Ten championship, but I think an Ohio State Oregon matchup, because they don't play in the regular season.

I think that would be awesome whether this in the Big Ten championship playoffs. I just want to see that game because I think it's a great football game. I want to say this, though, why on God's Green Earth, does any tight end ever go to Ohio State over Michigan? Or Penn State. Andrew Olesh, you know, I know your mom wanted you to come to Michigan. You should come on back, brother. 11 catches for 137 yards, one touchdown in five games.

for Max Clare, who was tied in one in the portal. He had 51 catches for 700 yards and four touchdowns last year at Purdue. That's obviously a full season, but like, what are we doing? Marlon Pinesman, he hurt half the year and has more, more catches, more yards. Like, what are we doing? Why are these guys going there? I couldn't agree more. I mean, obviously their wide receivers get, you know, the most play, arguably, of any team in

the country. Of course. You should know that going into it, right? Yeah, for sure. Max Clare should have come to me. Michigan, to be honest. Man, this offense with him would be. Yeah.

Which I like our, I like our tight ends a lot. Yeah, I thought Zach Marshall played well. I mean, Marlon's still kind of working through the injury. I think Hogan Hanson, again, that's just, that's the X factor on the offense for me. Like, can Hogan Hanson become a guy that is, you know, he's not the rot runner that Colson-Woblin is, but he's a more athletic, out wide tight end that you see in today's modern NFL. Can he get healthy and can he be that third guy?

with Marsh and McCulley. That's the question that I have. Because I thought, again, you know, Sprague had some issues, but I thought the offensive line overall played pretty well. They had some misassignments in the run game, but still ran for 170 yards, starting to wear them down in the second half. There's a lot to be excited about.

And again, if you, I just feel like a lot of people don't actually watch the games or don't really understand what's really happening out there. It's okay. Like this is, this was always going to be a ramp up. It was never going to be just running through everybody. that's next year in 27. Like, that's what you're hoping for in the next two years.

But this year was always about growth, always about development, and I'm seeing it. Like, I'm seeing it in real time. Which, by the way, speaking of, obviously we're not looking past this year, but you're talking about next year. Theoretically, I think that you look at what you have in Andrew Babelola and Ty Haywood coming up, right? Like, I think that- One arrow is going to be your center. This offensive line could be really,

really good because you're going to have a battle at a lot of positions and i mean you've mentioned babelola at tackle right he's probably going to be your left tackle right tackle is going to be you know i mean sprague could could continue to ascend and and lock that down and then but then like fraser's there tie haywood's fighting for a guard spot a phobie's been playing a lot this year warner is going to move to center so you you're going to lose el hadi who hopefully can come back from injury i think plugging him at left guard will give this group an even higher ceiling But Guernara's going to be your center. Like you lose Crippin, but man, I think Guernaro is going to be basically Crippin plus.

Like there's a lot to be excited about. And then you get into the portal and it's like, hey, we could throw for 300 yards a game if we could catch the goddamn ball. So maybe easier conversations for Ron Bellamy to have. Yeah, I know for a fact that they're going to go get three, maybe four wide receivers in the portal. And that's not like, like I loved Donovan McCulley, but they're going for. or like the top wide receiver portal target. Well, then McCulley had eligibility.

He'd be back and. Right. It would be great. But he doesn't. So now it's just about developing Marsh. You know, I think, I guess I'll talk about this. I had a moment in the stadium I wasn't necessarily proud of internally of just like, I don't want to see Samaj Morgan ever again.

I don't think that. I maybe said it on the phone after and I don't think that. Catch a ball, buddy. Like, he's so explosive with the ball in his hands. Like, I don't, it's just so frustrating. I mean, it's just, it's just, we can't drop. You can't drop the football. You're, you're, we talked about this a little bit.

Like, you're, it's your fourth year in the program, correct? Um, so like, those are things you just can't do. And to be honest, the bobble, yakety sacks, fumble, whatever, like, that was this close to another drop, you know? It's like, man. Or great play from Bryce. like i'm sure bryce is frustrated because i'm brice shout out to bryce for not showing it to be honest super mature for a freshman more mature than me more yeah more mature than you screaming

i don't want to see samaj morgan ever again no i didn't do that i just was internal um but i i honestly i i do want to like give uh give bryce a shout out on that of just like yeah super mature for a fresh 18 year old to not even like not even in the moment show any frustration at all with his guys when he it would have been very justified that he did so so yeah i'm i'm complimentary of him there um so anyways all right so we're going west uh not we but michigan's headed west on saturday actually there sure more came out said they're they're leaving Thursday. Good. So they're going to get acclimated. They're actually practicing at the Chargers facility with Coach Arbaugh on Friday, which I'm sure we'll get some great.

Yeah, exactly. Oh, my God. I saw some people freak out because Chargers sent scouts to Youngstown State. There are there are scouts that live, that have basically their own region throughout the country for every NFL team and they go visit those schools for practice. They go watch games it's weird that's what they're paid to do actually yeah um he goes to scout uh yeah college talent scouting it's actually right in the title of the uh profession so yeah um but i'm sure we'll get some great content out of coach harbaugh um you know he's probably like gonna just run practice i don't know who knows you just stop by i think you'll probably stop by i would think Is that a lot?

Are we able to, is that okay? We have to clear that. I mean, I'm sure the NCAA will come with some violation for us if it's Coach Arbaugh. That's true. We're on probation. We've got to be careful. Actually, it's a great question, because he still has this show cause.

So can he, like, not be at a practice for me? I don't know how much it goes to games. That's true. I know it's not a game. It's practice, but. I don't know. There's probably something there that they'll make up. But I think this is a, like,

Like another, what's the spread? Are we favored? I think Michigan, I think USC's favorite by two and a half. It's basically kind of a toss up because you get three points at home. So it's basically a pick them. Yeah. I mean, this is a defining game for this season, right? Again, if you can go on the road like you did to Nebraska and I'm not going to say this is a hostile environment

because I truly think it will be majority Michigan fans there. But if you can go beat a solid football team on the road, especially with a time zone change, that is a defining moment in your season and you need to win those games if you want to be elevated to the next level of like good to very good right and so i'm excited to see see the guys i think that this could be a game where you really do see bryce unleashed especially if it's you know if lincoln riley if we're trying to win a shootout it's like hey man we got to go um i will say one thing about this past weekend that i want to see the next weekend was the right out of the gate in the second half where we went tempo and it was like let's go let's go let's go let's be aggressive instead of sitting and waiting i want to see that a lot more like i don't know why we don't just do that all the time um i mean that's something i i wonder if we see that going up against the lincoln riley offense this weekend well i think you can do that with again with if hogan hans healthy you can have him and klein out there with marsha mccoli and hans as you're running back and

And you can do a lot of different things with that. You can still run the ball with two tight ends, where you can split one of them out wide, right? So there's a lot that you can do with that formation and go tempo, right? So I would be interested to see if that's something that they incorporate. You know, there's still obviously a big role for Max Bredesen on this team, but I think just in the past game, like just being able to kind of be unpredictable with those two tight ends who can block more so Marlin,

but also can go and run routes. and you can do, line them up in a variety of ways. I would like to see something like that with some tempo. I thought that drive coming out of half was really good, again, until it went run, run pass. And the pass was four verts into the end zone at the nine-yard line. To Marlon Klein. Yeah, can we have a drag route going there?

I mean, it feels like they don't want Bryce over the middle right now, but come on. You could have done anything. You could have done anything. You know, I mean, that's where, like, you do have Donovan McColley, you have Andrew Marsh and you have Marlon one of them in the corner like show look at what Donovan McColley is doing with some of the clubbed on that place so that but then somebody else should have more space to operate with right so that's where you run a drag or anybody sort of pick play what about a man like yeah I mean pick play any of those so I would love to just see this

offense like get unleashed a little bit more it feels like we kind of took a step back this week in terms of like the overall play calling. But I'm not complaining. I'm just going to say I'm not complaining about a win. Well, and I think, again, I think some of that was the Office of Line kind of just some missed assignments that caused it to look a lot worse than it did in the moment. So things to clean up, things to work on as there always is. You never play a perfect football game ever.

There's just so many things you need to do as whatever position you're at. So yeah, good win. Move on. Go to USC. You win the U.S.E game. I'm going to start, you know, walking my chest out a little bit because then you're approaching top 10 territory. You're approaching, you know, 10 win season, playoff birth, like Big Ten Championship, right? Because you don't have, you're undefeated in conference play right now.

Yep. So. There are some themes out there that are defeated in conference play. Do they play in? There's a couple. There are a couple. One of them is. Are they state schools?

What, yes, I believe they are. So, tough. Did one of them lose as a 24-point favorite to an own 14? They did. The other team, I would say, their fans talk shit about saying that they are, we're going to kick our ass this year. I saw someone say, like, season's not over. It's like, list of all the games.

He's like 50-50 with Michigan. I'm like, I don't know about that. I did see the 50-50 with Michigan. I was like, I feel like we're going to be 10 plus point favorites going in that game. They talked a lot about Bryce going 9 for 24 against Oklahoma. Their savior went 9 of 23, two picks.

I did see Justin Thind said something like Aiden Childs was doing hero things, super superhero things. I'm confused on what that would. I saw, this was just the segment where we just

talk about funny things we saw on the internet. I saw someone who said like, Charles should be up for like, in the conversation for certain awards. I'm like, what awards? And at what point in that game were you like, yeah, Heisman? Dude, there's zero. I mean, listen, I will say, I want to give him a little credit because their offensive line is so bad that he does.

No, he's a great athlete, but then he reverts to like just horrible decision making in the past game. It throws two huge picks. Yeah, he runs for his life a lot, but then like, I'll say this. This is where Bryce Underwood is a lot different. Even when he was running around and scrambling this, this, uh, in this game. against Wisconsin, he was super controlled in what he did with the football, right? And Aidan Childs is literally like he has no idea where he's going with the ball and just forces it. So I'm laughing a little bit at the team down the road here in East Lansing.

I'm excited. I think we're going to go there and kick the shit out of them again. And I would doubt that that offense is going to do a whole lot against us. Their backup looked a lot better. I mean, he was 9 to 23, 85 yards. Two picks, 13 rushes, 23 yards, two touchdowns. I mean, he did make a great play in the fourth down. But, yeah, like, well, to be fair, I found the tweet.

It's the MSU chief of propaganda. I mean, that is his job. Yes. So, shout out to him, because I do find some of his tweets funny. I don't know if we've ever interacted. It's probably not been pleasant if we have. I don't know. It's the internet.

But he said, Aidan Charles is as good as any player in American, also as valuable as any. this was at 630 so about like in the third quarter of the game i don't know what you watched up until that point to say that that's the that's the thing that i'm like all right what do we talking about here you know i i i don't know i mean they're delusional fan base um i mean that is that account and i say you know what though i say do i not come on here and say to be overly optimistic because what's the fun and be pessimists i'm with so do it but i just where did that Like, where did that come from? What there's a fine line between optimism and delusion, and I think they cross a play.

I straddle it every day, Justin, because I start thinking, you know, what if we do this? Like, even in games, I'm like, all right, you're going to stop here, score, get to stop here's score. I like what the game to, you know, I'm still, I still care about style points. Like, it's the BCS era. Yeah, 100%. I like to win by a lot. So 14 is not a lot, but it was a dominant performance for the most part and got the win. And it was hot as hell.

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