Blue By Ninety - MICHIGAN IS BACK

Episode Date: November 22, 2020

Cade McNamara has solidified himself as the starter for the Michigan Football team after a comeback victory over Rutgers... yes, you read that right. The change at QB seems to have brought momentum heading into the remaining three games of the season, BUT some questions remain. Will Harbaugh's seat start to cool off with the improved QB play? Will Michigan move on from Don Brown before the season ends? Crack a victory beverage and enjoy the show. 

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Touchdown, Wolverines! All right, welcome back to Blue by 90. I am Justin, and I am joined by Jack and Kalen. Boys, I mean, just a triple overtime thriller win for the Wolverines versus the mighty rutgers scarlet knights um i was talking to my i was talking to my buddy in uh like late last night and i and he's like i'm actually happy about this i was like well i think relieved may be a better term but uh it would be more accurate have something positive to talk about this morning here. Yeah, I mean, fucking Cade.

Cade for Heisman. Let's go. Let's go. We got a new savior. We got a new savior. Just like that. Hey, you know what? We beat a team that's color is scarlet in November, so I'll take it.

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. There we go. Good spin on that one. Great spin. Great spin. so i'll take it yeah hell yeah there we go good spin on that one it's been great spin i mean it was i mean we had a hell of a spark on offense i know like it's just crazy we saw it at the end of the game versus wisconsin obviously um and then you know kade came in through four beautiful balls i thought maybe it was just like, you know, all right, fourth quarter we're down fucking 35 points,

so maybe they have their backups in. But he looked legit. I mean, I tweeted it out this morning. The stat line for him was insane. 27 for 36, 75% completion percentage. Four TDs, one rushing TDd 250 some passing yards um and zero intercepts and that's playing he didn't get in until the end of the second quarter right like like imagine if he played the whole game i mean dude imagine if he would have played in some of the other games

right if versus msu that would have been a win It's like, I don't even want to think about that, because then that just makes me so sad. Like, we could be, I don't know, probably not 5-0, but we could be 3-2, 4-1. I don't know. Be more competitive, that's for sure. At least the offense would have had something rolling. I wouldn't even give a shit about this season

as long as we would have beat Michigan State. Let's be honest. I know, I know. 3-2 would have been great. season as long as we would have beat Michigan State. Let's be honest. I know. I know. 3-2 would have been great. 3-3-2 would have been great. I lost to Indiana. Whatever. They're a good team.

Who else did we lose to? Lost to Wisconsin. Wisconsin. They're a good team. I mean, whatever. We probably would have scored more than 11 points against them. So it would have been at least, you know, I can't say our defense wouldn't have given up 350 rushing yards, but at least we would have scored 21 points, maybe.

Dude, there was a period in that game where I was like, I'm pretty sure Cade has been perfect on every throw. Yeah, I had to look back and try to remember. I was like, man, was there a drive where they didn't score? And it was obviously his second drive second drive because nordine missed the field goal when time was running out in the to go to halftime and then cornelius fumbled cornelius fumbled well that was um is that earlier that was that was a million drive yeah but then also in overtime that was just horrible play calling by gattis i think he only had one opportunity to throw the ball so i mean how do you whenever they give him opportunities to throw it i mean michigan

i mean they look great dude that first uh touchdown throw that kade threw i to me i was like it's over kade's the guy because he put so much touch on that ball it was so perfect i was like oh man i love joe but joe could never do that at this stage thrown that through the field goal post right exactly well dude we saw it twice already like last game i mean joe's still overthrowing guys wasn't giving them an opportunity to catch the ball and then kade just he's just got there's just a different level of confidence in kade that joe just doesn't have yet and uh that's i mean that's the biggest difference to me yeah i i that was a blown coverage that first one obviously by rutgers like cornelius johnson was fucking wide open but

i mean it was still he hit him in stride pretty perfectly so um but also it was just like up tempo he was getting the ball out of his hands quickly on time he hit guys in stride um it just everything felt right you know it's it's so unexplainable how different because but like honestly our run game was so much better the offensive line blocked better and i don't want to be like oh these guys are playing for kade more than joe but it kind of seems like that. Like, I don't think people hate Joe, but it just seems like there's a different attitude when Cade is in. I just think Joe isn't that style of leader, you know? And I mean, he's more of a quiet guy. And I think, I mean, clearly it looks like what that team needed was somebody that could kind of be a little bit fiery.

I mean, you saw Cade getting people in the right positions, trying to get the tempo going, like keeping people on pace and doing what they're supposed to be doing. And that's just something we never saw out of Joe. And maybe that's just not, that's just not his style of play and, you know, to each their own. But Cade went in there, he was a leader, played with confidence, guys rallied around him. I mean, he's, I'm glad he's finally in and he's finally the guy. Yeah. I still think you could still see that, Joe. He must know some of the playbook pretty well and stuff like that, because on the sideline you saw Joe, you know, doing some hand symbols and like pointing things out and talking to Cade. So I'm kind of like, OK, Joe's still in the mix there at some capacity.

You know, maybe we'll see him next week with like the headset on or something like that so i wouldn't be surprised to see that but i don't expect to see him like in the game field no no no no i'm not saying i mean i i would they go to valari that's what i'm thinking man i mean like i feel like you have to i mean shit it's like i don't know i which is so crazy, dude. And I don't know. I just Shea Patterson was not a super vocal leader either. Right. He was he was like Mr. Too cool to like get hyped. He got hyped for people, but he was definitely seemed like he was a too cool guy. And then Joe was just like almost too calm a little bit.

And then like it was kind of weird how calm he was. And then, which I thought was like, I thought it would be an advantage to him, that calmness, that collectiveness. But I think this team, especially when down in the dumps, they need somebody to be fired up and in their ear kade was over on the sideline like dropping f-bombs getting these guys fired up like hitting each guy and so like you need something like that because obviously in the first quarter you're down 17 nothing no spark no nothing um you need somebody to step up like that and thankfully it was kade um so the the other part to the offense holy shit we went rb1 we have a number one running back hassan haskins got 22 carries yeah 22 carries over 100 yards rushing right i mean i think i still think in the beginning of the game they were they were

shuffling through them every couple downs and i was like all right here we go again and then it was like holy shit hasan's actually the guy. It was awesome to see. And it's great to see what can happen when a guy gets in a groove. Yeah, I'm not going to read too much into this because it only took three overtimes to get 22 carries. Yeah, true. Yeah, and a lot of them did come in the overtimes.

That was when we really started running the ball really well um but still i think that even with it happening in overtimes i think that they'll go with that for the future that i hope so god jeez i'm gonna be so pissed if we go back to everyone getting four or five carries each like dude you figured it out it worked well we actually had a hundred yard rusher like i i mean i don't want to say i told you guys so i did but i said this back in the in before the season started right like i mean we all talked about it honestly we all talked about it and it was like fuck man like every other no other team has four deep you know maybe you have a one and a two the two is getting you know lesser carries and then a third down back or something like that

but you can't just go four deep and i thought the the box score was perfect as far as number of touches for everyone in that offense hassan haskinsaskins, 22. I think Charbonnet had six carries. I would like to maybe see him. Honestly, I think Blake Corum's good. I just think he's going to have his day. I'm sticking by that. I'm sticking by that.

You got Charbonnet over Corum? I can see that there'd be reason for that. Either guy, I don't think you can go wrong. But I don't know. I got to go Corham if I'm picking two, one of the two. Yeah, I mean, I actually had a chance to sit and watch the entire Ohio State game. And they did a really good job of Master Teague and Trey Sermon.

And those are their two guys. And, you know, Teague gets most of the carries. Sermon comes in occasionally but you know you don't see two extra guys beyond that coming in so i would like to see you know uh hasan and charbonnet really you know be the established guys and then maybe you have some other packages with you know blake coram and chris evans uh but you just rotating rotating the four in, it's asinine. Well, I don't think Corum honestly should get any carries right now, but he and Chris Evans should be getting those swing passes like they did.

I thought that was part of the box score that I really liked. Chris Evans had one carry, but he had four catches, and it was perfect. And all those catches went for – those are key catches for Chris Evans had one carry, but he had four catches, and it was perfect. And all those catches went for – those were key catches for Chris Evans. So he's a big part of the game still, but not getting any carries. I think that's where Blake Corum is the most effective too, is when you get him out in the open field. He's so fucking fast. That's why I want it to be Haskins and Charbonnet running off tackle

or up the gutter. You can't run Blake Corum in between the tackles right now. He's just not big enough yet. And so Charbonnet is going to be that guy. Haskins is obviously the one guy with the most, like, yards after contact, which is what I really like to see. Yeah, I could go for that. One, two, Haskins, Charbonnet charbonnet but i mean as long as quorum's

getting touches out of the backfield somehow whether it's screens or swing passes whatever it is i mean if you get him in space he's he's gonna pick up some yardage yeah um and then what do you guys think about the receivers i felt like everybody really contributed pretty well um honestly we're fucking back to the tight ends nick eubanks needs to never play again i'm sorry not not to be like a super downer but he had so he's the worst blocking tight end or receiver i've ever seen in my life he missed so many blocks and then it frustrated me so much because he missed like three blocks in a row i was watching i literally tweeted him out i rebounded and took the video tweeted him out and then we fucking throw right to him for

the touchdown and he's going nuts like he's the man i'm like fuck you dude i was so pissed i was so mad that we scored at that moment honestly i was like what the fuck man you're you're just hanging around spath too much you can't you can't even celebrate a touchdown anymore well yeah that's i give you a stand i mean that's you shouldn't reward a guy for that stuff is what i'm saying so then here's the real question eubanks or mccune i'm so i'm gonna stick with eubanks no matter what at least eubanks doesn't drop the ball as often but like if you're a tight as often yeah um fuck them all eric all should be should be in all the time and and what about shoot maker like what happened to him is he's still with the team yeah i mean his little sidelines i'm pretty sure you just don't

see him get in much but he didn't i mean especially when guys are not making blocks like that i mean it's an opportunity for somebody else to get in actually i need to look this up number 85 was in who i don't think is shooting maker but he's like bigger and he was in on some some run blocking so i can't remember what uh it was but honestly like dude i mean as far as uh the wide receivers go in the offense i mean ronnie bell is just that dude like i want him in on every single play whether it's him blocking he was so pumped for that pick play um a touchdown he's like jumping up and down him obviously he didn't score but he executed a big part of it thing right and i was like fuck yeah man like that is what we need right there yeah i feel like we saw a lot more of um cornelius johnson in the game a little bit less of roman

wilson a lot more of mike samer still giles was out there consistently i think they're kind of figuring out who their guys are and uh i mean other than that drop from cornelius man i mean two drops no yeah he did have it he did have another drop on a touchdown. I think that's what you were talking about before, Ro. But that was a good play by the defender. But I think they finally found their guys. And with Cade out there, man, I've got so much faith with him just putting the ball where it needs to be.

My hope is back. My hope is back for the rest of the season. Fuck. Fuck is right. Fuck is right. It's bad. Here's what I'm really Really hoping and I don't think

It is because I think Cade is A very talented guy and he could Be a really good quarterback But I'm hoping it wasn't just like John O'Korn Against Purdue in 2017 Where he came in you know lifted him Up and then obviously it didn't work out the rest

Of the season. God, don't put that in my head. But yeah, could be. Very well could be, man. Very well could be. When you put in a guy like that, you obviously have no film on him. I thought the play calling was different with Caden. Right?

I don't understand that. We were running RPOs with Cade that we never ran with Joe. And maybe, maybe we did with Joe, but he, they looked like gives always. I think another thing too, that you brought up earlier is Cade was hitting guys in rhythm. You know, he is, whether it's three step drop, five step drop, whatever it was, once he got to the back of his drop, he was letting that ball go where with Joe, we'd kind of see him get to the top of his drop and just kind of like stand there and look around and really not be sure of where the ball is going to go right so i mean it could be they could have been calling those for milton but

we don't really know what's actually being called because it it took him so long to get the ball out and that's why a lot of the balls went crazy i mean yeah i honestly i thought they were kind of maybe this is because they had such a new line but i wanted to see gaddis call more like zone reed stuff with Joe. I thought that would have maybe got him in a rhythm and they could take advantage of all those running backs and Joe's size and athleticism. And they never really did that. And I, I don't know. Does anybody know about Cade? Does he have some wheels on him? I have no idea. I mean, I guess. Yeah. I mean, I don't think he was anything don't think he was anything i think he was a pocket

passer come out of high school i don't think he was you know a dual threat guy at all did you did you know his high school stats he threw for like 12 000 yards in his in his high 146 touchdown passes he both uh nevada state records yeah that is insanity and i know he played at like one of the best high schools in nevada right they they played on espn and shit i'm pretty sure um but fuck man that like i'm pretty sure joe's stats are like he has like he had like 3 000 passing yards on his career and i think it was like 45 completion percentage and right yeah i i almost well okay we talked about this earlier but i mean i just want to know what the hell happened in this quarterback room this offseason that where where does mcafree fit into

this situation how did it become that joe was like the god over mcafree causing him to transfer and and then i i mean my thought is that kade never even got the reps because they were so focused on who it was gonna right every but like they had to see that that mcnamara was good like i'm sure right i have i have a theory about this okay let's hear it. I think that because Harbaugh kept saying, like, they're doing it in practice. They're not doing it in games, right? So I think that our corners were just so bad that in practice, Joe was just lighting them up. He would just throw the ball down the field.

Mikey Sainristle would just blow past the corner or whatever, make a catch be like holy shit look at joe this guy's unreal and then he looks amazing then they put him in the game they're like we don't know what's happening a real corner is actually covering the wide receivers you know i don't know man because joe couldn't hit a fucking wide open guy i don't know i'm I'm at a loss. I think something else must have been going on behind the scenes. And I would love to, like, be able to talk to McCaffrey and be like, dude, what the hell happened? I feel like something's going to come out, like, maybe a few years down the road or something. Or when he finally transfers somewhere. Something's got to come out.

Because it's just unexplainable how how I mean first of all the fact that we could not get either Dylan McCaffrey or Joe Milton good enough to play quarterback for us I think is very very frustrating but I think McCaffrey was good enough man we saw it two years where he got in and he got chances. And that's where my thought coming into the season was like, all right, we knew McCaffrey was good. We knew all the potential Milton had. And I just thought Milton had figured it out and he was going to be amazing. But Milton didn't live up to the expectations everybody had for him. And honestly, I think if McCaffrey would would have stayed he would have done a million times better that's why i'm convinced that there must have been something we've all heard the things about harbaugh right that he rubs people the wrong way there must have been something like that that happened because i i just i refuse to believe that it you know he made such a dumb decision like that you know i mean i i know for a fact that mcafree was a prima donna kind of a douchebag probably not even kind of big time douchebag so egos egos probably collided there and jim was

probably like hey can you shut up and just try to do your job and mcafree's like walking around like his shit doesn't stink you know so it probably was something like that where he, you know, Harbaugh was trying to make him, you know, put him on the same level as everyone else and push him. And McCaffrey was like, I'm the dude. I don't need to be pushed like that. And I can see that happening too. I also, my half of my theory too is that they just saw six foot five 240 pound

joe milton with a cannon for an arm and they had to be like we we can't pass on this type of athleticism have to give him a chance have to see what he can do i don't hate that but like yeah i get that and you also i mean you do have to assume that he's not going to fucking overthrow every deep ball by 20 yards. I mean, the one that got me more than anything yesterday, it wasn't even an overthrow. It was just wildly inaccurate. Ronnie Bell got to a spot, was wide open, and then Milton throws it five yards away from him towards the DB. I'm like, all right, give him the fuck out and i think the series after that he was pulled but i was like man what is this i don't know gotta be a lack

of confidence in my mind definitely a lack of leadership hopefully he figures it out and goes somewhere man because i don't think he'll ever have a shot at michigan again which is unfortunate and really disappointing and frustrating right so i mean i was thinking about it earlier today i'm like man if i was joe milton where would i transfer maybe like you see oklahoma or something and try to get you know lincoln riley to help me out or something you know somewhere where i'm like i know they coach quarterbacks that's where i would go because i would have to admit to myself that i need some fucking coaching. And not from fucking Devin Gardner. The hip thrust master, dude. Fucking.

Jesus Christ. He's that video. I literally. Seven year olds. Seven year olds. I'm like, dude, I saw that video and I lost my mind. I was like, this, what is actually going on here? And I watched it myself.

I was like, what is he doing? You can't just push him over. Like, what is going on? Why did he just, like, do that? Right. Literally one hand, and he just shoved him over. It was the weirdest shit I've ever seen in my life. I was like, all right, you just lost all your credibility.

Yeah. And so, like, in half of that, I'm like, dude, you know what? Devin Gardner,ner yes i think they're comparable as far as athleticism so i thought maybe it would be a good fit um but why couldn't we get joe milton like a real a real qb guru to work with why is he working with fucking devin gardner who you know obviously is an athletic guy and you know had potential at michigan it didn't work out because of other factors but like can we get him like a real quarterback coach i don't know that's a good you're jim harbaugh joe milton is from florida

jim pick your phone up call tom brady and say, Hey, I got a kid from Florida. He's going to go home, stop in Tampa and work with you for a few days, you know, or I don't know. Yes. Even if you're not working with Tom Brady, say, Hey Tom, who's a good QB coach down in Tampa by you? Like, I mean, not the fact that we, I mean, you don't even have to go to actually Tom Brady. Like, Jim Harbaugh, how many contacts do you think is in his phone of other coaches that know how to coach quarterbacks?

Including his goddamn self. Fuck. Right. Very frustrating. I don't know why we're all pissed off because Cade. I know. We went down a rabbit hole. I got riled up there but um i mean kate is obviously and yeah heisman contender now maybe i mean he's got to be

the front runner at this point don't sleep on valari yeah valari's coming up uh i did see b cooper uh tweeted back at me when i said uh i tweeted out last night that i would shotgun a beer if we got to see valari and he b cooper tweeted back and said uh what do you say he said something like a first round in the nfl or second round of the nfl so now did you guys see uh cade when he was on the sidelines at some point jim harbaugh was giving him the wilton spate like beating his chest and doing the whole night i like that back at that point 2016 harbaugh yeah and uh and milton was still in when he was doing that so i think i think jim fucking knew he was like dude you're you're going in here shortly

but they i still agree with with starting milton you had to give him another chance and just be like all right we've invested so much in you here we gotta give you a shot you have one last chance this is it and it didn't work i mean that's the nail in the coffin too right like milton you you got your chance you had your opportunity clearly couldn't do it and Cade went in had no issues at all then it's just like okay perfect like that deal's done now we've seen it they've gone against the same team with the same same athletes on their side of the ball and and you just couldn't do anything and Cade goes in has no issues so it's just it I think that's just what everybody needed to see too right yeah. Yeah, I think it was a good offense in the second half

and late in the second quarter. So let's talk about the defense. Sadly, there really still are no positives because Rutgers put up 35 points in regulation on Don Brown's defense. And it's fucking Rutgers. And I know they're better than normal years, but it's still fucking Rutgers. And so I was looking up Noel Vigero, Rutgers quarterback. I was looking up his stats for the year.

By far, his best game was yesterday. By far. I mean, Don Brown's got to go. Has to. There's been no light at the end of the tunnel for Don Brown. It's just always, it's been getting smaller and smaller after every game. He gets worse and worse. I mean, you got to let him go.

You got to let him go. Very true. Yeah. Actually, I thought the corners played better yesterday than they did the last, what, three games. So, like, maybe G-Mon Green got beat a couple times, which is better than 30 times or whatever. And Vince Gray, I thought, played okay. So I thought there were a couple positives in that, you know, realm.

And then the injuries mounting on defense, I was like, holy crap. Like, who are half of these guys? Yeah. I mean, and there's a point to the injuries too right like i get it you're starting guys you expected to be in are out right but still the backups you have in there are more talented than any of these guys that you've been going up against and if you're coaching a scheme where guys can't just be plugged in and succeed it's not working i mean consistently scored 30, 40 points against that defense, and it's just, you can't always rely on having superstars to bail you out.

Dude, our rush defense is garbage. God awful. Like, Ro, I don't know if you have the stats in front of you or not, but I'm pretty sure we were giving up, like, seven yards per rush or something like that um yeah they had they had 40 rushes for 104 yards so not it was like it was not that good but that probably includes uh um sacks and and stuff like that but when they did we stopped them a few times like at the line of scmage, but it seemed like when they got a crease, they were going for 10 yards or so. And we talked about it earlier too, but Will Heinegger mentioned,

he called it leaky yards. It was yards that when we should have stopped them, and then they still get three or four. They, they like fall forward or get a couple more. It's like that's the frustrating thing to me. How do you like that? Was it touchdown or two point conversion to take it to overtime? I mean, any ass quarterback for Rutgers pulling three linemen with them. I'm like, bro, it's hard to fathom that.

The game's on the line, man. How are we not pushing as hard as we can to get a win there? And we just let them have an unbelievable drive down to get to that two-point conversion. Like, first of all, oh, well, I mean, yes, that drive was ridiculous. I thought our offensive drive before that was really good, too. We took a lot of time off the clock, pounded the ball, and then punched it in. I also want to give props to Rutgers. That throwback in overtime, that was a sick play.

And they executed it perfectly yeah that was i mean that was i mean because they drug it out for a while like he kept rolling for a while like normally see it get thrown back a little bit quicker and they just boom boom boom let it the quarterback threw it to a spot and the guy just i mean right that's pretty that was beautiful that'll work against him he so like last week against illinois who is in my opinion the worst team in the big 10 you know maybe minnesota maybe michigan state obviously they fucking beat us but um i mean he he had he went 21 for 34 against illinois two tds and three interceptions. Against us, 29 for 43, a better passing percentage, 378 yards, three touchdowns, and one pick,

and that pick was just a heave on the last play of the game. Oh, my God. He had a hell of a stat line yesterday, and that's a fucking Rutgers quarterback. Got to get Don Brown out of there. Got to get Don Brown out of there. Got to get Don Brown out of there. What did you guys think about the quality of the defense deeper in, like, maybe the second and third overtime versus throughout the whole game? Because for me, I was like, it almost feels, like, drastically better for whatever reason in, like, the second and third overtime than the rest of the game.

Yeah, I thought so. And we pointed this out last night. Once McGroan went out, I thought Adam Shibley, who replaced him, played better. Yeah. And that's crazy to me because McGroan's supposed to be an all-Big Ten guy. And so it just blows my mind. And then Brad Hawkins came out, and I thought Hunter Reynolds made like five plays in a row. He was actually playing the ball, which was crazy to see.

Yeah, there were some guys that mentioned it before the game, right? They said Hunter Reynolds had earned playing time, and that was before hawkins even got hurt and then when when he did come out of the game reynolds was able to go in and yeah like you said i thought he played really well yeah he was awesome um i thought actually josh ross had his his best game of his of the season he was a uh that was the first time i was impressed by a linebacker this year, actually. So he had a sack. He had a couple really good plays. I felt like he was running to the ball.

Unfortunately, I thought Dax Hill had the worst game of his probably career. He just, like, wasn't playing. That one deep ball, I mean, he's there and just what are you doing it didn't look like he even wanted to go get it it's like he had no idea the receiver was even there i mean otherwise you're gonna try to go high point right you gotta go high point the ball i mean that's he must not even seen the guy i don't know what happened there but yeah not did not expect to see that out of deck so it was weird it was really weird um I mean yeah it's just like one week you give up 350 rush yards to Wisconsin the next week you give up 380 yards to passing

to Rutgers so at this point teams just can pick what they want to do and do it and they'll and they'll succeed against against this defense so yeah i'm i'm i don't know about you guys but i'm excited about the offense and confident but we're gonna give up 50 points every week i would say yeah i mean at this point i'm like literally last night and i'm had this been two games ago or even last game, I was laughing. Every time Rutgers scored, I would just sit there and laugh. I can't even be upset about this anymore. What is this going to do for me? It's comical.

I'm just imagining Jack with a beer in his hand and just like, and tears rolling down his eyes. Tears rolling down my face. Heather's like sitting across the living room like, what the fuck's wrong with him oh no heather heather was like yeah i think we're gonna have a couple of our friends coming over i'm like please no Michigan plays tonight like i can't be around anybody i'm sorry like i need to watch this game by myself it's like i was still able to laugh at the defense and be like whatever but at

least we have faith in the offense now where it's like okay they can hold their own keep in the game but we know that you can't count on the defense to do anything. You cannot count on the defense to stop anybody at any time. You just have to hope that Michigan scores every time they hit the ball. Yeah. No, if you're the coach, your game plan is win the coin toss, receive, and just try to score first. I also, so did you guys watch Indiana-Ohio State yesterday? Yeah. That was a great game. Great game. I thought Indiana might come back and do something, man.

That was probably Justin Fields' worst game. Oh, my God. Yeah, he had three picks, right? And bad picks. Like, they were terrible decisions. He was going down. He either could have just went down or thrown it out of bounds, and he decided to throw it up twice. Yeah, I mean mean that was like weird bad that was a real bad throw and

he could have thrown it deep and brought kept the guy going on his route and it might have been his completion but when he threw it short that uh what at number 22 jefferson or johnson i mean he just it was it was right to him so yeah that this is my worry indiana played probably as good as they could have on defense forced three turnovers justin fields had the worst day of his career and they still put up 600 yards ohio state did and scored 35 points on offense because they had to pick six to make it 42 so like if that's their this is their worst day on offense because they had to pick six to make it 42. So, like, if that's their – this is their worst day on offense, 600 yards and 35 points against a good Indiana defense. So, what do you think is going to happen in a few weeks when they play Michigan?

I mean, they're legitimately going to go for 800-plus yards. Yeah, it'll be a fucking blowout. It will be a blowout. This is all part of harbaugh's plan he's trying to deceive you all right guys go in there and play really bad right don put your uh put your mask over your eyes and coach the game or something right and so that's what's been happening so we're gonna play ohio state right joe milton is going to come out and he's going to take all these like ankle weights off and like a chest plate off and then he's just going to expose his superman s on his chest and

we're just going to annihilate him right oh god you know i i have a conspiracy even i'm not that optimistic i i have a conspiracy theory you know there, there's always the talk about Ohio State prepares for Michigan every single day, right? Michigan doesn't think about this game enough. They don't prepare. What if this is the year that all Michigan's been doing is preparing for Ohio State? They haven't prepared for any other team. So that's why they suck against every other team. But we're going to know every single play that Ohio State runs. for any other team. That's why they suck against every other team.

We're going to know every single play that Ohio State runs. We're going to expose the hell out of them finally because that's all we've practiced for. That would be amazing. I'm just writing this down getting ready for a highlight. That would be such a middle finger to the fan base.

Fine, you guys want to beat Ohio State? That's all we're going to practice. Dude, take that middle finger and throw it in my face. As long as Michigan wins, if they win that game, I will take it. I will gladly, gladly take that. Let's be serious. Would you take, let's see, would you take 4-4 with a win over Ohio State this year? Yeah, 100%. Over 7-1 with a win over Ohio State this year? Yeah, 100%.

Over seven and one with a loss to Ohio State? This year? 2020? Yes, 100%. I mean, probably every year, yeah. Michigan's not beating Maryland. You don't think so? I haven't watched any Maryland, so I have no idea.

After they lost, they got blown out by Northwestern, but Northwestern turned out to be a very good team. True then maryland i think put up 40 to 50 points and blew out whoever they played in their last two games they had played before they got pretty good they're all right fucking uh what's nuts from the oc and then they brought little tool with them so i mean bama connection man they're putting up points that's for sure sure. Loxley, right? Isn't that it? Mike Loxley. Yep, yep, Loxley. So, I mean, I think Michigan beats Penn State.

But, dude, that Maryland game will probably be pretty similar to the Rutgers game. I agree. The one thing about last night, which is kind of crazy to me because of the two programs that we're playing, it wasn't like Michigan was fucking up so bad, and that's why Rutgers was in the game. It legitimately looked like both teams, talent-wise, scheme-wise, everything else were on the same playing field.

It was like two of the same teams going at it. Yeah, agreed. How does that happen in the year fucking 2020, in year six of jim harbaugh i don't know tom brown gotta go he's gotta go um which is i think kirk herb street said it uh or somebody said it on uh college game day they said if you put the rosters next to each other they look they look similar of michigan and rutgers and they were right because last night it was like it was it was blow for blow it was like an even match obviously it went down to three

overtimes so um what else do you want well interesting to note there too that the rosters were similar because there were a couple michigan transfers on that rutgers roster right michael dumford drew singleton yeah and we saw both of them making plays. So that's just kind of an interesting side note maybe. Dunford had a big sack late in the game. I mean, he blew right through the line. He wasn't even touched and got to McNamara. I think it was in the first overtime.

Yeah, I think he blew right by Zach Zinter. I mean, that's where you're seeing our young line, right? Some of the chickens coming home to roost. Yeah. Also, Drew Singleton, one of those blocks that Eubanks just absolutely, I'm going to send you guys the video because it was so bad, but he came in and blew up Giles Jackson on a swing pass. So, like, those are two guys would be starting on michigan right now 100 like we are

dying for michael duan for in the middle at the moment so um like i never thought that drew singleton would play for us but now obviously we're on to you know backup linebackers so um i don't know maybe he wouldn't be a, but one four would probably be our best alignment at the moment. A hundred percent, a hundred percent. Don't four would be in and playing. I mean, I think Drew Singleton,

he was an IMG guy, four star. He was good. It's frustrating for sure to lose guys like that to Maryland. And one four was, didn't he leave for family issues? Isn't he from the East coast? Yeah.

Like he had a legitimate reason, but I mean, you think, I mean, you think of the DT transfers, right? You got 12-4 he left aubrey solomon five-star guy went but what tennessee right i don't know how he's producing there but makes a huge difference right now could really use them even if he's average we he'd kill it in in the middle there right now yeah so what do what does this do for you guys in terms of your thoughts on harbaugh your thoughts on what michigan should do with this coaching staff on obviously we i think we're all

on the same page with don brown but even with josh gaddis and some of these other position coaches where do you guys stand as in terms of that after one triple overtime win over Rutgers to put Michigan at 2-3? I mean, I've backed off the fire Harbaugh train. I have put the pedal to the metal on the fire Don Brown train. And I think Harbaugh's getting a lot of heat for, and I hate to do this to a player, but I feel he's getting a lot of heat for, and I hate to do this to a player, but I feel like he's getting a lot of heat for Milton not being successful. And I think it's on Milton.

I mean, McNamara's been successful, and he's a Harbaugh recruit. I mean, you can't, what are you going to say? Oh, McNamara's just good and Harbaugh didn't develop him? I mean, I think Harbaugh's getting a lot of heat for Milton not being developed. But, you know, like we said with Mozzie Smithzie Smith you know some guys just aren't there yet I think Milton's got a lot of a lot of talent and hopefully they can do something with it but I don't know if Michigan if the offense can score points and McNamara can can do what he's been doing I think Harbaugh's job is saved I think Gaddis's job is saved but Don Brown I mean he's people wanted him gone last year people want him gone

two years ago and their defense is continuing to look awful I think I think Don Brown's the only for sure guy that's gonna be gone at the end of the year which I don't think they should wait that long but that's when it'll be yeah I I'm actually kind of with Jack I'm like I've backed off of the fire Harbaugh train now that will totally change if all of a sudden Joe Milton trots on the field against Penn State. I'll be like, okay, you're an idiot now. But, I mean, as long as we say, okay, Cade's the guy. Cade's our guy. He's playing.

I'm backing off the Harbaugh train. But Don Brown, gosh, like the defense is so awful right now i can't i i don't know if there's a worse defense in the big 10 i really don't man dude it's bad like this is we would be in last place in the acc with this defense big 12 definitely the big 12 holy shit yeah those those air raid offenses would literally be throwing for a thousand yards on us god this this defense needs to play like eastern and that will be a good a good measuring stick you know we talked about um this was brandon brown and with bryce marriage about that 2018 recruiting class and how you know we talked about um this was brandon brown and with bryce marriage about that 2018 recruiting class and how you know that's vincent gray and jamon green and there are three stars

but i mean you you have to know that's what you're working with then and and adjust and you have to work to develop those guys if you know that's going to be a weak point in this class and so i i just it's so frustrating i i just think you know half of its scheme half of its player development but all of it is bad now and so when you're this isn't like you can have down years right as far as production from a defense production from your team but like the drop-off it under if you want to be elite if you want to beat ohio state which is obviously the goal the drop-off can't be that significant year to year or even from starter to backup i mean yeah 100 and for me it's not even being an elite team anymore it's just beat

ohio state go nine and three and beat ohio state the whole fan base would be satisfied at that point i i i mean you beat ohio state every you know third or fourth year at least if you're doing it every now and again i think that satisfies the fan. And then you can take the next step after that. But that, I mean, that needs to happen first. Yeah, I think, unfortunately, though, the only way for us to beat Ohio State is to be elite, right? Ohio State gets caught sleeping against, you know, maybe a Rutgers, a Maryland, or someone like that.

But against us, they're always up for the game. That's why they get their gold pants on in the morning, right? So, I mean, they're in for us to beat them. We would need to be like a 12 and O caliber team. And I, I mean, that's what they were in 2018 and it couldn't do it.

True. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and then look at what happened the year before that with John O'Korn, they were in the game. I mean,

it just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense at all. I was thinking about this earlier today too like who's the last player under Harbaugh who you've seen them actually develop maybe like play one way one year and the next year you're like wow he's significantly better it's a hell of a question that is a hell of a question because like even the guys that are have been our best guys were our best guys when they stepped foot on campus jabril peppers was you know the best guy when he stepped foot on campus uh and he wasn't even a hardball recruit you know so um i i mean winovich chase winovich yeah yeah yeah yeah honestly the one that came Winovich? Chase Winovich? Yeah. Uche? Uche? Yeah.

Yeah, honestly, the one that came to mind for me was Jake Ruddock, where it was like in real time. He only had one year. It was like in real time he was improving. Week to week. Yeah. I mean, he got better and better every year. That's true. I would say Winovich and Uche on the D-line probably.

I mean, Aiden Hutchinson and quitty pay uh definitely i think too um you know but they were also big recruits i think quitty pay was quitty pay is a good one because he wasn't a bigger three star or something yeah i can't think of any offensive guys other than rudolph i mean right and that right some of the some of the linemen i'd say um under warner that went to the nfl last year, maybe like a Ben Britteson kind of guy. But like skill players. Yeah, I can't think of anybody. And that seems to have been our –

Ronnie Bell. All right. That's a good one. Fuck, I don't know. Other than that, though, like it's – I mean, yeah, we just named off, what, five, six guys. But like five, six guys out of 150 times six, you know, of Jim Harbaugh's classes. It's like, that's not good. In my opinion, that's probably my biggest beef with Harbaugh. It's not even the, can't get you guys to play, you know, can't get them fired up. It's player development.

You, you have every resource in the world at Michigan to develop those players. And you have every resource in the world at michigan to develop those players and you have all the money in the world to hire the right assistant coaches and strength coaches and all that stuff and you know what it's it's happening in other sports at michigan michigan basketball develops every single guy to be to excel and exceed their expectations. And nearly every single guy in football does not even come close to their expectations. So it's not like it's a Michigan thing. It's a Michigan football thing. Yeah. Jim Harbaugh should be hiring John Beeline.

Fucking, they're going to send the football players to Camp Sanderson. Definitely Camp Sanderson, bro. Jesus. Even, I actually saw, let's transition into basketball a little bit. I know we just had a crazy football game. I can't say that with a straight face. You just beat Rutgers in triple overtime, bro. Come on.

The thing was, I'm sitting here last night Jacqueline's half asleep on the couch because it's fucking midnight by the time you know getting over I'm like standing up pacing for a fucking game against Rutgers like well when that kick happened when they missed the kick, first of all, I was like, I almost turned it off before because I was just assuming that he was going to make it. And then he missed it. I was like, oh, my God, he missed it. What an idiot.

He really missed it. Was that Nordean or the Rutgers kicker? The Rutgers. Okay. I didn't know if you were talking about Nordean or him. I mean, Nordean can fucking get lost. But all three, man. kicker the records okay i didn't know if you were talking about nordine or him i mean nordine can fucking get all the three man dude you're brutal and then and then he has the audacity to like it was caught on camera for him to be like do your fucking job to the long snapper like fuck you dude

you do you didn't do your job yeah do your shit put moody back jacqueline is yelling at me because i'm swearing too much it's a normal amount after a game it's passion this is my passion exactly should have heard you during the game exactly yeah i had it was just through text because i couldn't wake her up what do you what do you think's the realistic expectation for the rest of the year do you think michigan finishes i i say they get one more win for sure against penn state but i mean do you think they have an opportunity to get the four wins beat maryland or ohio state i think they're four and four i think they probably beat penn state in maryland i think maryland is they're all right they're gonna score on us, but I think that we can score down too.

I mean, we essentially scored 35 points in one half. I mean, one half plus one drive in the end of the second quarter, right? So, we scored, like you said, pretty much every time we had the ball

or put ourselves in an opportunity to score and then Nordean screwed it up. Fuck it. Yeah, exactly. So I'd say that, but also, like, I'm thinking about this Penn State game this week. They're going to go into it saying, this is our chance to get a W, right? Yeah. They're going to attack the corners. They're going to run it up the middle.

They're going to use everything they got because they have nothing to lose. So honestly, I'm still in the I'll believe it when I see it camp. So if we win, great, but otherwise I'm going to assume we're not going to win.

Yeah. Hopefully it just snows like it is right now for the rest of the year and then people can't throw against us but then they'll just run for 350 yards so what is it for days what does it really matter jesus so yeah i did want to transition so basketball starts this week i think we're three days away um yeah bowling green um so i didn't want to touch on that um and the transition i had was when you're talking about camp sanderson is shaundi brown i saw his quote earlier uh this week he said um i thought i was in super good shape until i realized what michigan shape is um He said it was... Yeah, he said Camp Sanderson is

next level. Being in Michigan shape is different than ACC, than anything else that he's seen. Pretty crazy, right? Yeah. I mean, dude looked like a specimen coming in, too. He's jacked. I'm excited to see how he plays.

I saw Franz Wagner kind of lit it up in some scrimmages too i know you guys aren't i know you guys aren't real high on him but uh are you ready to finally jump on the bandwagon of the guy that's like the highly most highly touted guy we have in the whole program i don't know what it is that i don't like about him but there's something i don't i just don't know he's a wagner he's a wagner but i like i don't like about him, but there's something I don't, I just don't know. He's a Wagner. He's a Wagner, but I like, I don't know. Maybe it's the wristband on his arm.

I don't know. There's something about him that I fucking like. I will say the wristbands like low on, like on your actual wrists is, I don't know. That's like 1970s stuff. Man, that's like dad swag. I love it. Well, I hate it. I don't know, man. I don't know. That's like 1970s stuff. Man, that's like dad swag. I love it. Well, I hate it. I don't know, man.

I don't know. I want to see him do well. I do. I want to see him do well. I just don't know what it is. There's just something about him. I don't know. I don't know.

I can't explain it. I really can't. But that from the closed scrimmage, the stats came out. Let me pull them up real quick. I remember I screenshotted them. So Franz had 26 on 11 of 18 shooting. That's a good game. And then eight rebounds, so almost a double-double.

Isaiah Livers was good, like, all the way around. 16 points, went three for seven from three had nine rebounds and six assists so damn near close to a triple double for a you know small forward who doesn't handle the ball very often that's kind of crazy and then hunter dickinson went 17 17 points and five rebounds uh would like to see more rebounds from our big guy but um 17 points for his you know first performance i'd say pretty damn good and then um shandy sounds like shandy played the most which is kind of crazy uh he had 37 37 minutes and then he went four for seven from three so if that dude can come in and be a knockdown three-point shooter for us that changes everything right yeah i mean that's what somewhere that michigan struggled last year

where they had thrived recently i mean and they were still a solid team yeah uh the other transfer mike smith went six for 14 he made both of his threes ended up with 14 points Brandon Johns had the best plus minus of the night and was at a plus 20 he had 14 points and seven rebounds in 30 minutes I think that they're going to continue to have a deep rotation it's not the seven man rotation like John Beeline had where he never would put in anybody past those seven guys but you're still gonna see nine ten guys play in this on this team um austin davis is still back what do you guys think about basketball i i'm now i'm like okay we're back in on football a little bit so i'm not as excited but i'm still pretty damn excited about basketball season coming up yeah love basketball season man just another michigan sport to watch

and they're always fun to watch too so i'm i'm pumped they're playing. It'll be it'll be weird to see them play at the same time that football is playing. So I'm interested to see how that kind of plays out. but it sounds like it's a new enough team that I can jump right in and get to know everybody and I'm just looking forward to seeing seeing Juwan start to dominate the Big Ten hell yeah it'll be interesting to see how you know they work with Eli Brooks and and Mike Smith and Zeb Jackson the freshman to replace Xavier because I think Xavier is you, is the one guy he's kind of like Shea Patterson, a little bit of the unsung hero. Did I say this last time? Probably. I don't know.

I can't. And so it'll be interesting, you know, if Franz Wagner can put up 20 plus every game, that's huge. And then I think that leaves Isaiah livers to not have to be the guy. And he can kind of just be a spot up three point shooter. Obviously he can do more than that, And then I think that leaves Isaiah livers to not have to be the guy and he can kind of just be a spot up three point shooter.

Obviously he can do more than that, but I think that's where he's best is from three. And then on the defensive side of the ball. So I'm looking forward to seeing how they do on the defensive side of the ball. Cause I think that's where under Luke, Luke Yaklich under beeline, they were really good on defense and then they lost where under Luke Yaklich, under Beeline, they were really good on defense,

and then they lost that with Yaklich going to Texas. So under Juwan, you know, he's not really a defensive – I mean, he is because he was a center, but his offense is focused on scoring points. Makes more fun for me. True. We can just bet the overs. That's right so all right well again big time thriller from uh from last night win for rutt for michigan you know what i

i don't care a three overtime win against rutgers it's a hell of a lot better than a three overtime loss against rutgers right so i mean we would have what would our we can like joke about oh yeah we beat them and it took three overtimes but like fuck if we would have lost last night we would be in I mean every every headline would be hardball loses to Rutgers so I think you know we can be just thankful that we got out of there alive yeah and I think it's encouraging to see Cade bring a team back from down 17-0 with basically a half to do it. It's encouraging to see. Brings hope for the rest of the season. Yeah, so anything else from you guys on that or basketball

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It just continues to always blow your mind. So, yeah, maybe it'll be a snow game in Ann Arbor next week, so we'll see. We'll have another podcast coming up focusing on basketball a little bit and the Penn State game coming up this week. Other than that, go blue. We'll see you later. Go blue. Go blue.