Blue By Ninety - Ohio State Resets the Clock on Michigan

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

Justin and Tanner talk more about Michigan’s disappointing end to the 2025 football season.

All right, welcome back to Blue by 90, presented by Feldman Chevrolet of Highland. My name is Justin, joined by Tanner today. And going to be honest, we put off recording this for a couple days. I needed, you know, after the game needed some time to think, gather my thoughts, blow off some steam a little bit, not come in super hot. And also, you pointed it out before we started recording, if you didn't know, we formed Blue By 90 in 2020, like COVID year. And so this is the first time that we have had to record a podcast after losing to Ohio State.

So I think that's a good thing all in all, right? Like I, you know, but we're in a little uncharted waters here. We haven't had to get on here and talk about taking the L. But, you know, I mean, I think just to. be honest with you like taking the l was it was quite an l um you know i don't think there's really any way around it uh to to say like oh like oh we did this you know or if only this happened x y z like yes there's there were some you know moments during the game that you can take opportunities but all and all just got beat by the better team all in um you know and not in like a

very exciting way. It was just pretty much a beat down. Yeah, I mean, they kind of did the boa constrictor thing, you know. It started off great. Like, I'm sure you were losing your mind. I was losing my mind. Jordan Marshall, 36 yards, first plate, and you're like, wow, okay. It was so Hassan-askins-esque of, like, just rip one of those off.

And then I'm like, holy shit, this is this. could happen. Yeah, and I think, let's just get, I guess if you want to call this an excuse or whatever, out of the way, but I think if Michigan is healthy, they're going to have a little bit more success offensively than they did. I think Justice Haynes and Jordan Marshall, if they're, you know, even 90%, 80%, no disrespect to Bryson Cusdall. You know, there were some, there were some opportunities in the run game after Marshall went out. And, you know, Bryson had, I think, a 22-yard run, got down to, like, somewhere in the 30s, 30-yard line somewhere around there.

To your point, like, I think we got as much as you can ask out of Bryson Cudstone out of those last couple games, right? So to your point, it's not a shot at him, it's just the situation. Well, I mean, Justice Haynes is probably RB2, 3 in the draft, right, depending on what he does. And we saw what Marshall was able to do before he dinged up his shoulder again. And no Max Predison either. So, you know, it was going to be tough sledding.

I thought the offensive line, I think in the run game, I think, was okay in terms of just the physicality. But, you know, I think it was probably a bit of a shock when you go from the teams that they played all year. They haven't played a defensive line this good since Oklahoma. And this is probably the best defensive line in the country. You know, Kenyatta Jackson had a great game. McDonald had a great game. And those linebackers are flowing and making plays. and you can't bounce anything.

Like Bryson Cuzzle try to bounce and lost five and that distorted one of the drives that had some momentum. But yeah, otherwise, the thing that keeps coming to mind for me is that Jair Hill made the play on the pick. I think McColley had a nice catch over the middle. But other than that, was there ever a moment?

We're like, wow, that guy just went and made a play. Honestly, McCulley made that catch that was out of bounds that with one hand. And I was like, oh, shit, that was pretty sweet. But it didn't count, but it didn't count, unfortunately. No, I mean, yeah, like, it was, it was kind of crazy because to your point, like, I didn't think outside of, like, a couple plays, Ohio State didn't make any, like, spectacular plays either.

No, I mean, you have the receivers, right, make those catches. One big, one big touchdown, you know, the long one. And then the Jeremiah Smith touchdown, that should have been a touchback. which I don't I don't even want to talk about it. I don't know if I've ever seen it called like that. So, I mean, I saw they were reviewing it. I figured that's what they were doing. I mean, he was bobbling at whatever.

I mean, that's a touchdown, you know, can't get burnt like that. It was a slug, oh, man. And I understand why Zique is so on the slant because it's fourth and five. And you just have a guy who could play in the NFL right now just goes and makes a play. So I think for me, the really disappointing part was, again, nobody really went and made a play. Julian Sane had all day to throw. Ohio State was 10 of 17 on third downs,

two of three on fourth down. I mean, that's 60% on third and fourth downs. You're not getting off the field. Ever. Yeah. Right. So you have no pass rush. You don't have the secondary to hold up.

Like, you're just getting, you're getting demolition. I mean, 279, you know, it doesn't look that crazy, but it was thorough. It was an ass kicking that we haven't. seen in this game since probably 2019. So, yeah, man, it was really, really tough to sit there and watch it. But hats off to them, man. I said all week, I felt confident, and I don't know what gave me that feeling because Michigan, you know, again, I thought physically up front on the O line, it was okay,

but they mauled us. Bo Jackson had, I think, 166 yards. Every time it felt like there was an opportunity to make a play to get. get off the field to force them to plant. Michigan didn't do it. They did it early in the third, and then they probably, I mean, do you want to go through the drive?

The drives, because they are sickening. And this is where I think from just both, because I think this is where you really have the boa constrictor come into play. So, you know, Michigan has that six play 48-yard drive to get a field goal. And then you have the Jaya picks. You start at like the plus 35,

or maybe it was the 39, actually. So you get out of the seven, you got to kick a field goal, can't score, you have first and goal. I mean, at that moment, I was like, shoot, man. Like, this defense is going to have to play out of their minds. You maybe, what was the down and distance on fourth there? Is it fourth and seven? And they just went to McColley on the slant or the back shoulder attempt

and wasn't able to get there. Hate that play, by the way. Hate that play call against, again, that's not a mismatch, right? like if it's a mismatch then I like it but I don't know maybe you go for it there um just I mean it's total momentum shift for them if you don't get it but um I don't know they start at the seven you know I mean so I'll just let me let me go through their drives and then I'll talk about ours but I just this was a ass kicking um so after the interception Ohio State goes 11 play 69 yards kicks a field goal Michigan gets pretty fortunate that

they had an illegal formation I think was the penalty on fourth down they had a kick the field goal. Great stand, though, from the defense because they had third and four at the third and goal at the four. Jayshan gets like everyone's saying he's trying to like show him what was happening, which I guess you could see after the fact on the broadcast. But either way, second quarter, 10 play, 6.3 yard touchdown. Michigan gets the fuel goal. And so they're backed up to their 13 yard line after the penalty on the kickoff. And they go with 524 left in the half. 11 plays 87 yards, five minutes, eight seconds. There's 16 seconds left in the half.

And at that moment, I was like, I don't know. So I mentioned the punt earlier. They go eight plays, 34 yards. You know, they get off the field. Surprise Ryan Day didn't go for it, but the way his defense is playing, the way Michigan's offensive plan, I totally understand.

And then they go two plays, 57 yards, touchdown. The real backbreaker, 20 plays, 81 yards, 1156 off the clock for a field goal to go up by three scores and that's the end of the game um so all that said the offense did not do anything especially in the second half they go four plays punt seven plays punt three plays punt three plays says downs i think there was a pick in there i don't know if espns got it wrong um but either way the offense

was absolutely atrocious so uh special teams was horrible 11-yard punt like i'm not really coming out of this justin i know we're kind of talking about the game but on like a broader view of where things stand. I'm not coming out of this, like, okay, you can build off that. Or, hey, this is good. I don't really have. The only thing that I'm really kind of holding on to, I think a lot of Michigan fans are is like,

oh, the team's really young. It's great, man. It's the portal era. That's what's frustrating because you have, in college football in 2025, the ability to go and fill gaps in your roster. You cannot come into this game. And I know there's injuries and all these sorts of things.

And you got a freshman quarterback, like, I get that. But they just, the talent gap is back to where it was in the 2010s. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's where, like, I had talked to a couple different people, different, like, people in the media and stuff. And it was like, man, are there really any, there may be a couple of positions where you'd rather take the Michigan guy than,

and the Ohio State guy in that game. There's, like, a couple. Maybe Jordan Marshall over Bo Jackson, but he outplayed him. You know, I know that's a lot of the offensive line versus, you know, versus the player. You know, I would have, like, Marsh is wide receiver three at best, you know, there.

And, you know, I think, yeah, the talent gap, it reminded me, you mentioned, like, the Bryson-Cudsdall bounce out, which, again, it's a third-string walk-on guy. But it reminded me of when Michigan played Georgia in the college football playoff in 2021, where it was just like, I remember a linebacker, like catching Blake Corm on the outside, and I was like, holy shit. It was Jordan Davis caught him on an outside zone.

And it was like, that dude's 360 pounds. Just like, oh, shit. It reminded me a little bit of that. but I don't think like I don't think it's like not a fixable problem like I do think that Michigan can get to that point again like in 2021 to be honest like coming out of that game I was like we may never be Georgia ask you know and then you did so I think that like I think that like you look at some of these guys that the young guys that we have I think you can get there but I do think you went you regret

in that game back to 2017, 2018, where they had such a mental edge over, Ohio State had the mental edge over Michigan on Saturday. It was like, it was very visible, very visible where I didn't think that any of our guys, and I'm not trying to like single our guys out and say that they don't like care, don't whatever. It was just very visible that like they didn't truly believe that they could, that they were the better team after, you know, those first couple of. possessions. Yeah, I mean, I think Michigan had a chance to have the inverse happen, right?

Because if you go and you score on like first drive, it's like, oh, doubt creeps in. I mean, if you go out 14-0 on the number one team in the country at home, like, that's a totally different ball game. Yeah, the place is rocking, right? But you're, you know, you're happy to get a field goal, but like you're not as into it as you would be if they scored a touchdown, right? It would have been it would have been 2021 after AJ Henning scores the place erupted. Oh my God. It was, I was going ballistic. It was great.

It was a great, you know, first five minutes of the game. And then after that, it was just a parent who was the better team, who was the better coach team. And we've talked a lot of shit about Ryan Day. A lot of it is, you know, in jest, obviously, because the guys won a national title. He wins 90% of his games. He's a very good football coach, a great coach. Yeah. So, like, obviously that was going to come.

to where it's like, hey, he's going to figure this out. And we said it, like, Michigan's going to lose Ohio State. And it happens Saturday. So, yeah, I mean, I think the upside is certainly Bryce progressing, right? Like, his true freshman quarterback typically are not that good, right? And there are still some things that I've seen this year that have me excited, obviously. And I still think that he's going to be the number one pick after his junior year. I think he's going to get there.

But, like, there's got to be a lot of gross. from now until September of 26. Yeah. I actually read something on Reddit of all places last night that like, it was like the stats of I think three or four different different freshman quarterbacks that played at Michigan. And all the stats are pretty much the same

except for Chad Henney. And he had like, I mean, the Bolitnikoff Award winner and Mike Hart in like two first round offense line. Yeah, like it was like he was, he was in there as like that they weren't relying on him to really ever win the game, you know, his talent alone. So everybody else like pretty much had the same stats that Bryce had this year. I think the ending of the year for Bryce is a little bit concerning just like the way that

it regressed. Now you play your toughest opponents usually towards that back half of the schedule and that's obviously, like, a, you know, a reason for that. I also think, you know, there is, you know, cause for concern on, like, the Northwestern game and, you know, only beating Purdue by five points and, like, all that. Now, that's not all on Bryce's shoulders, you know, either. There's a lot of other variables with the coaching staff and play calling,

et cetera, et cetera, you know, around that. But I think, like, at the end of the day, here's actually going back to the game real quick before we get into like the the bigger state of the program um i like at the end of the day like you were down one score at half time no matter how bad it felt no matter like yeah it didn't feel like we had any momentum after those first two drives and and like our offense was going three and out all you need is one play all you need is somebody to make a play and not one person made a play in that entire second half like in in serious like there there I can't point to really anybody who went out and said I'm going to make one play um and you put up zero points

in the fucking game in the second half like unacceptable dude it's just like you just can't have that happen um and then like the the box score says it all at the end of the day of like one for nine on third down for Michigan 160 some yards total like I mean I just I don't know like I'm not in the building didn't say like oh this was so-and-so's game plan versus other person's game plan you know talking about

Sharon versus Chip versus whoever but like the game plan was not good it was it was they were incredibly unprepared they never once made a a change into like hey this isn't working it was like even in the second half you somehow thought that you were going to like push them around after you never did and guess what running inside zone with a third string walk on running back versus the number one defense in the nation not going to go well

yeah well and to your point about third down so something else uh that i think was extremely concerning so michigan played three good to great teams this year right i mean I think Washington's above average. So that's your best win, right? But they're five and four. They're five and four in conference. So I would not even put that in the best teams you played. So Oklahoma, week two, Michigan's three of 14 on third down,

O of one on fourth down. They're nine of 17 on third, one of one on fourth down. USC six to 12 on third down, one of one on fourth down. And then I already mentioned the Ohio State, 10 of 17 and the two or three. The other thing, so you think about those fourth down conversions, is there's five of them across three games. You give up 80% on five fourth down conversions. That may not seem like a lot,

but in the context of football, when you're typically going forward on fourth down, deeper in your opponent's territory, and you can't get a stop 50% of the time, that's concerning to me. There was just, again, I know there's been a lot of, you know, there's injuries and all that stuff, but hey, man, it's football.

And sometimes that's just luck of the draw. but from what I saw and I know the offense wasn't lighting the world on fire but I've got some concerns about the defensive side of the ball in terms of just against these good teams again the offense didn't help them out at all but like you didn't make any single plays like how many times lose it third and whatever

and running back is wide open out of the backfield like I think Bo Jackson had probably like however many catches on on fourth or third down to extend a drive and that's how you give up a 20 play drive that that basically ends the game yeah i mean to your point like when you're on the field as much as the defense was because michigan continued to go three and out and have short drives um it makes it really difficult um but the defense didn't help itself out either right when you're playing caleb anderson like how much of a concern is fatigue because you're still doing

all the stupid shit that we talked about all year where it's like hey man they're going to tighten up the rotation against ohio state right they're not going to they're not going to keep rotating these guys and I don't I probably could go look at my email and see if BB's big house sent me the PFF numbers because I'd be curious to see the snap counts but it was basically much of what we had seen all year he'd not sent him to me so he I don't have them I don't have the snap counts but um you know there's a lot of a lot of guys on the field on defense and again you know but like this is what you this is what you rotate for all year then otherwise what's the point you need

need to have your best guys on the field versus the best team in the country that's what it comes down to and in the biggest game against your rival that your entire program is based upon beating right like that's the reality and um from the defense for from the defensive perspective like honestly i felt for our deep backs because like at some point Julian San is just sitting back there and you got two first round picks and you're like what else do you want me to do here man like I don't know. You know, like it was two pressures, I believe, on saying. And one of those was like on the 80 yard drive that didn't matter because it was third

goal and he had to throw it out of back of the end zone and then they kick a field goal. And it's 27 to 9 with how, you know, however many minutes left in the game. I mean, 27 to 9 felt like a hundred to four. Like there was no chance in hell we were going to get to 27 points that game. Right. Like I, and I want to, I will say, I want to give. Julian San, a ton of props because, you know, it's so wild. He really doesn't do anything sexy, and that's why nobody, that's why the national

media is not, like, talking about him with, like, running away with the Heisman right now, which I think you should be, to be totally honest with you, with his stats. But, like, to, as a guy in his first year playing this, you know, playing college football at a super high level in his first year playing in this game on the road and he goes and throws a pick on his first drive and then comes back unfazed and is just lights out the rest of the game like you have to give that kid props um and so it hurts me to say that but like man i you know unfortunately going into the season i think you said this too like if you would have asked me you know, early beginning in the season, like, who's the better, who's going to be the better

quarterback in the Michigan, Ohio State game? Like, even Ohio State fans, I think, would have been like, yeah, Bryce Underwood, look at his talent, right? But the reality was, like, San outplayed him on Saturday. And, you know, I think that, like, in football, that that determines a lot, sadly. It's like, you know, obviously Bryce Underwood isn't playing defensive back against Julian Sam, but, like, The QB comparison is usually how it goes. So I just, I, I felt no juice from, from our side, unfortunately. Pass those, you know, after those two drives, I felt the game plan.

You know, I think we can get into, let's get into that now for a second as just like, you know, we've talked a lot about our players. We've talked a lot about what they, you know, underperformed and didn't accomplish. but I just I think to me this one laid more on the coaching staff I didn't think that we had a good game plan on either side going into this one got out coached again Ryan day is a very good coach to your point like yes we talk a lot of shit about Ryan day it's because he's lost four games in a row and and somehow got punked in his own stadium last year by Mason Graham you know this year he punked us that's the reality like he he he he he took the Jim Harbaugh game plan and did it to Michigan and to Sharon Moore, where like you're not going to do anything sexy, you settle for field goals and just, you know, you just do this. But, you know, I appreciate, I will say this. I very much appreciate our coaching staff. They've welcomed us into the building at times. They've, you know, they've worked

with our guy, Luke, from Dreamon 3. Like, this is not a personal shot at these guys, but from a professional standpoint, just like, they just didn't get the job done on Saturday. Well, the thing that I think frustrated me the most was what came out of the press conference. So Michigan threw five passes in the first half. And Sharon said that wasn't the plan. We wanted to be balanced in what we did. But when you're successful in the run game like that, that's what you want to do. Does that mean that because Jordan Marshall broke a tackle and got 36 yards that they completely abandoned what they had planned all week to do? like is that what that means and i'm not going to bring any message board stuff here but that was

that was floated uh that a player mentioned something like that about not doing what the game plan was yeah and so you can't fall in love with things like what was the script like just because that first plate on the script was maybe designed to get five to seven yards and you get 36 doesn't mean you just abandon what you're going to do um so that was that was kind of my biggest frustration and there there had been moments this year with chip lindsay that i was really impressed and i really like some of the calls i and again who knows how much of that's ohio state just being able to flow to the ball they've got freak athletes arville rice is a stud like kale downs like all these guys but even in the harbour years when we couldn't get it done like 20 like

even in 2015 they got their ass kick but in the first half i was like wow this game plan like They're doing something with this. 2017, same thing, right? You come out and you are at 14-0 with John O'Corn at quarterback. And those are different Ohio State teams. I think one thing that Ryan Day has really done is emphasize the defense, especially post-2020. And I know 2022, you know, Jim Knowles, the cover zero thing

and Michigan was able to exploit it. But defensively, since 2022, Ohio has been one of the best teams in the country, and they've really emphasized that. So it's a little bit different than what Jim Harbaal was facing with Urban Meyer. but like I just never felt in the in the game where I'm like oh man that's you know it was that first play it was just you know there's there's a hole and Marshall hits it and is able to keep going and get 36 otherwise there was never really a moment where I was like oh that play call was nice you know because I'd had that throughout the season you know like I remember the Washington game the touchdown to Zach Marshall like oh that was that was drawn up beautifully like even though it didn't work but against Nebraska the pass from from Samage to McColley and you're like okay like I see the vision never really felt that in this game. And there was like even, okay, a week prior versus Maryland, I was like, man, this feels like a dynamic offense.

We're like all over the place, kind of, and there's different misdirections, and it feels like that. And then this week, I know that, like, having a good defense blows up a lot of those things sometimes that look better against weaker defenses. But I felt like we just tried to, just like run over them and it was like there there was no like oh look this way i'm going to go this way really ever yeah i mean there were some moments that i think bryce missed um i saw

you know from j do's recap some of the things that he was looking at you know down the field that that might have been open um the other thing i didn't address this what you said though earlier about bryce um like the northwestern game like i actually feel that he made progress from the bi-week to Northwestern to Maryland. And so that still has me with some optimism. But obviously this game was very rough. I mean, 8 of 18, 63 passing yards. I mean, I think they had 62 last year.

So things we'd never see. We thought we'd never see again. Yeah, man. I think the other frustrating thing was is that Igman Nosen for Ohio State. He's a pretty good corner. but man, he gets himself in trouble being very handsy and not looking back at the ball. They had, I think he had two PIs called on him.

Yeah. It was the only two times they really ever just like drew something up to just throw it at it. Like, why not just go all PI offense and just see if it's better than whatever they were trying to do? There were times when that was our only offer. Yeah. Like we kept drives going because of that.

Yeah, it was a third down. I can't remember what point in the game, but it was a third down that extended the drive. I think they got into OSU. territory um i think that was yeah i think they got into like the 46 yard line and then they ended up punning from there uh which i don't know man like you i don't like when it's the fourth quarter whatever i guess you can punt like that was the point that i left the game because i was going to stay and just grin and bear it but when they punted with seven minutes left i was

like what am I doing here snowing you know I just was like no I'm if they're gonna if they're done I'm done you know and so I got out of there but I would say I'll say this too a couple things um you know looking at that offense like Andrew Marsh was the significantly like was the the oh I don't want to say only but was the best uh igniter of the offense for the back half of the schedule right like four to six weeks in a row. It was like the Andrew Marsh game. And then I know that Ohio State had an emphasis to try to take him out of the game, but zero targets is like unbelievable.

There's not one time that you try to force it to him or like. I'd rather have him get the fade in the end zone. Definitely. And also just like get him on a little hitch or a little out like or, you know, anything to try and get him going. or also, you know, when they're going one high safety, basically the whole game, just get him on a fly route and overthrow him one time

to showcase that you, like, have the ability to throw it deep one time. Yeah, what was the furthest the ball traveled in the air when Michigan was on offense? I mean, that game felt like 2024, whereas, like, we literally don't even take one deep shot all day, you know? So does that, do you have concerns about the philosophy of this program at this moment? I have, I do. I have concerns on like, I think my concern is, and you saw this all year long.

I have two concerns. One, not putting the pedal to the medal when you have opportunities. When the other team, when the other team makes a mistake and you have an advantage, not being like, hey, let's put our foot on their throat, put the pedal to the metal and try to take advantage and go score off of this. That's number one. And it leads to number two, which is when you do get a lead, just letting off the gas completely and trying to play not to lose instead of going to play to win. You saw that against Michigan State. You saw that against Purdue. You saw that in a lot of the, in Northwestern, honestly. You saw that like you had opportunities all year

to win games 38 to 13 you know 35 to 5 14 stuff like that and you never once did it and I think that it seems to me that this coaching staff is trying to do that boa constrictor thing but they don't have the personnel to do it and and so you got to you got to you have to conform at some point right But, well, so that's what I'm wondering because the way that they wanted in 2023, like, do you know how many stars had to align for that to happen? I mean, you know, man, you were behind the scenes for that year. But you think about it, you've got maybe the best quarterback in program history, maybe the best running back in program history, one of the best offensive lines in

program history, the most talented tight end in program history, Jack Butts better. at Michigan. But Colson is certainly the most talented, physically athletic guy at the position in Michigan history. You have receivers who are willing to block, but can also make plays down the field. You have a defense that consists of Mason Graham, Kenneth Grant, Will Johnson, Mike Stainer still, like, and I'm not even naming all the other guys that are like playing at a high level in the National Football League. You can't have that all that. That doesn't happen, right? So you can't just be like, oh, well, this worked two years ago. and now we're going to keep trying to do it.

Like you need to play to the strength of Bryce Underwood. I understand that they couldn't afford for him to get hurt this year. But how many times did they run design runs for him in 2025? A dozen, a couple dozen throughout the course of the 12 game schedule. So then he's not ready for it against Ohio State. You can't do it because he hasn't done it all year. I mean, when they did do it, a lot of the time it worked. Like, I mean, you go back to that Nebraska game, I believe it was where.

And they tried that draw. He was too early. It's an RPO and he's too early because they haven't repped it enough. When you don't rep it at all, like, yeah, you're right. Can I also make another point on the state of the program that's kind of outside of football right now that I think really. It bothered me that the guys stood around the logo. You had your chance. We clowned Ohio State.

Players on this team came on and talked about that moment. I'm sorry, you get your ass kicked. You don't get a stand at the logo. Go to the locker room. Let them do what they earned on the field. I thought that was weak. I think you're thinking about the wrong things if that's what you're concerned about

at the end of that game. To me, it felt like that was what they had in their mind from like pre-game. Right, so that's your mentality. Like, we're going to defend the... That's what they talk. They must have talked about that all week, which means that they were talking about losing talking about losing right like um i i think that

i agree with you um you know listen i i'm a guy i can't stand being in that stadium in hearing oh hio and seeing all the red like it that shit irks me so bad like i it's just it's just it's just like that that's like the most triggering thing ever to me so like i understand to an extent what like not wanting to let them do all that but you have to like i actually think again giving ryan day props like he came out of that looking like the the most uh mature guy in the building you know on both teams where he's like listen we we want to win with humility like, dude, I can't tell you if I was Ryan Day that I wouldn't have been just spouting off everything being like, fuck all the haters.

Like, this is, you know, you've been talking about me for four years. I finally did it. Like, I got to give him props for just being like, you know what? This is like, this is what we do here. And even though he finally did it, he acted like he had been there before. Yeah. So. He had been a part of, you know, he was, he was at Ohio State in 20.

2018 and 2019 as a head coach. So, you know, it's not like it's his first rodeo. But, yeah, I just, I was extremely disappointed by what seemed to be the priority for the team at that point. Go sing the alma mater, go to the student sections, you know, that's those seniors last day in the crowd and seniors on the team, their last time in the big house, right? So I just, yeah, I had a tweet, it was weird, it came up on my Facebook. I think you posted it actually, but I was like, seeing my Twitter on my Facebook was

interesting. but yeah the amount of scarlet in the stadium was was extremely frustrating um and i'll tell you i bought my ticket look i buy my tickets typically on you know the the third party marketplace so but i would gladly you know if a michigan fan was like hey i got to sell a ticket i'll buy it right i'll buy it we'll bypass the fees you know i'll pay less you'll make more um but so i don't know if this is hypocritical that i'm talking about this but uh i think you know selling your tickets for all Ohio State is weak, and I don't think you deserve to have season tickets. I agree with you.

I think it's the number of times I've heard of Michigan fans like, oh, well, I just, like, I just sell my Ohio State tickets to pay for the other, you know, five, six games. So you, to come to Purdue, what do you, like, yeah, they want to see New Mexico, like, for me, it's the opposite, like, of, like, I get season tickets so that I make sure I have tickets to the game. Yeah. You know, like, obviously, we go every week, but, like, that's the mentality. It's like, so I don't have to pay $800 to go to the game. And go ahead. I was just going to say, like, I have my mentions muted, but if somebody that follow, that I follow replies, so I would see people that are replying to people replying to me about it, and they're like, oh, well, you know,

this team this you know people should be able to do what they want but i'm like yeah they should but the university of michigan should step in and say no this is not going to happen but the problem is they have a partnership with seat geek so they don't care and to have i mean dude i didn't notice it as much in person i mean there's ohio state fans around me and the guys around me for the most part were just excited about the game they weren't really i might have lashed out and then i apologize i might have lashed out i i turned to one guy i was after one of the touchdowns I was like, so does this game mean something to you or not? I can't tell.

And he was a little, he was a little upset with me. And I was like, dude, I'm just lashing out, man. I'm sorry. It's tough, man. When you have 30. No, no. I mean, I like to think I'm pretty even killed. But in the big house, it's definitely like, you know, watching the game.

I'm an emotional football watcher. But like, yeah, it's just really frustrating to see, I mean, what do you put the number at? 30,000? There's a lot, man. It looked horrible on TV. I agree. It looked way worse on TV than it felt in the stadium. And also, like, a lot of those photos are from, like, towards the end of the game when a lot of Michigan fans had left.

And also the red versus the blue. Like, most people don't have, like, maize stuff that's winter wear. That's all navy, right? So I get it. The bomb needs to be there if I'm being fully honest. Yeah, I didn't even think about that. To be honest, what are we doing? The other question I have, why is Matt Rife on the field?

with an Ohio stage agency. Who allowed that? Why are there any Ohio state people? He's not a funny comedian, in my opinion, by the way, and this is further synest. I don't think he's that funny. Do you know what I'm talking about the? Yes, I know.

Yeah. He's on the field. I think someone said he's on the field yelling F. Michigan, like on his Instagram after the game. Why is he there? Right. Like, this is all stuff outside of football that doesn't necessarily matter. But for the fan experience, I heard some horror stories of people being real assholes.

wearing scarlet and gray to like kids and that's you know i know you've been to Columbus um that's typically what it is we didn't have any problems at our tailgates uh they were pretty cordial but um yeah actually you want to know sorry to interrupt you but the one of the best parts uh was pregame so we had two ohio state guys that came up they were literally the first guys at the tailgate first guys at they sat and watched four years of highlights as well they did to relive it but then the guy came up to me because i i came up i was like i jokingly i was like oh you guys are wearing the wrong colors you're not allowed in here i was like no no no worries like come on come on in grab a drink whatever we're we're chill and then they did sit there for the entire like the

entire tailgate until the game and he came up to me at like you know 10 30 or 11 before they were going to go inside and he's like god i hate you guys because you're so nice why are you guys so nice right now this is making me really pissed off because like you're not supposed to make me like you and like that's what i want like i want the hatred like i get that but like it doesn't need to be like i you know the the streamers with brandon hillman after the game yeah can we talk about that first of all it's just i think a lot of that is just like streamer uh culture of like it's like jack dordy type shit yeah you just like you have a camera on somebody and you just try to like prod them until they lash out so that they look bad on camera well i have thoughts

on that and i i was going to not that anyone cares but i was going to tweet something about it but then i was like nah i just don't really feel like having the trolls coming to my mentions and just getting docks or people you know whatever so my thought is is is that's where you know exactly where that is by the train tracks when you're walking through the parking lot to shembeck or hall that's where the players come yeah after the games right to go back to the facility so we're we're standing there we're harassing football players and their parents and their families for views on youtube which has probably got i don't know maybe 5,000 views i haven't looked at it but congratulations on making 30 bucks off ad sense um and then we're

going to post it like we're the victim and it makes them look bad like i saw some people saying how soft michigan players were for that and i'm like too they got off lucky yeah I also thoroughly enjoyed seeing that do get lifted into the air. I'm glad he didn't land on the railroad tracks. I could have been really bad for everyone involved. He landed in a way that didn't, you know what I mean? But like some people have shit like that coming. And we just act in this world that we have no repercussions.

If it was, and also I just want to say too, if this was vice versa, I would say the exact same thing. If there were Michigan fans in Columbus, like just like following the players around, stalking them and getting them on camera I'd be like those guys fucking suck and they shouldn't be wearing maize and blue so I want to say that I couldn't imagine posting myself

getting launched into the air by another man but that's just me it's bad I also want to say like I think Michigan has to be better for that game specifically of like there should be cops that whole walk that are just like you know escorting those guys to make sure that that

I can't believe what I saw. And I thought when I saw the thumbnail on Twitter that it was going to be fans and then I saw where it was and I'm like, that's players in their family. We've been tailgating there after. We've been tailgating there after games

plenty of times before and all those players like come over and say hi to us because that's the route that they go. But all at all, I just want like to wrap this up. You know, it's not good this is this uh the game wasn't good the state of the program right now uh not great i think that there still is there there are still a lot of things to look forward to in the future

but a lot of things have to change right now in order for that like this is an incredibly important off season now um to make those changes get the mindset back you have to go to Columbus next year against, you know, I'm sure they're going to be reloaded again for the hundredth time in a row, you know, like, it's, it just gets that much harder, you know. I want to, like, to, like, quote Dan Campbell after, you know, they lost in the, in the playoffs, and he's just like, it just gets harder from here, guys, like, and that's where Michigan is at, too. Like, it just gets harder. And you have to figure out a way, like, how do you, get these guys to like get up for that game and and how do you go beat them um and i think

shrill more's got a lot to got a lot to think about he's got a lot of tough decisions to make here in the next month and and he's also like got to i i know they're already like they are doing well in recruiting you know i i don't that's that is a one positive um and but like you got to go hit the portal immediately and like for shiro more now you you are looking like this program it's it's do or die in 2025 with a tough schedule man it is a crossroads moment in 2026 in the same way that it was in 2021 100% we're back to that point 100 you have to go into the portal you've got to get guys to compete I mean the guys that they I'm not going to singly to be some of the guys they paid a lot of money for in

the portal this year didn't do jack shit all year especially in this game they got moved yeah push out of the way they didn't do anything yeah so yeah i got to hop here in a few minutes basketball that's sick hockey women's basketball pretty cool wrestling top 10 too i i should have put them on that graphic that we put out um but yeah man i don't know we'll see what happens where what bowl game um these guys go to um you know last thing i'll say too is Like, it feels like shit because of how it all happened, but this is kind of where we expected to be at the end of the year, right? Like, I would have, you know, I, it's, the record is where we expected it to be.

I would have expected, like, last thing I'll say is I didn't expect to go into that and win that game because they're the number one team. You have a second year head coach with a freshman quarterback and a ton of young guys all over the place. I do expect you to be competitive. Go back and look at Brady Hoke teams, man. They sucked all over the place. Like the talent was not good.

They played those guys tough every fucking year. They never got blown out. I mean, his last one in 2014, that was 21, 21 going to the fourth. And then Ohio State, you know, it just kind of took off in one by 21. But it was always close. You know, 2011, they won, 2012. It was close. 2013, you're two-point conversion away from winning that game, right?

So, yeah, I mean, you know, last year, obviously a big upset and, you know, had everyone thinking like, okay, like Sharon, you know, can get up for big games. Now I just need to see consistency. I need to see development. Like, we'll keep talking about it because, like I said, I got a hard stop here in a couple minutes, but we'll keep talking about our thoughts because this is a big year. It's a big off-season, some big decisions to make. on the coaching staff, in the portal, moving forward.

So it's going to be interesting. It's going to be interesting. All right. For us, you can follow us at Blueby 90 on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, I Blueby 90 podcast on YouTube and Blueby90.com. We appreciate you. Go Blue. Go Blue.