Blue By Ninety - Putrid Offensive Performance Dooms Michigan Again

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

Justin and Tanner break down Michigan's second straight loss.

All right, welcome back to Blue by 90. I'm Justin joined by Tanner today and it just doesn't it's not getting any better for Michigan football right now. It is a tough situation and we're going to talk about it. We're going to try to talk through this even though I think both of us said to each other at some point this weekend like we're just dreading hopping on the podcast which is it's not a place that you want to be in like week seven so you know but it is yeah no i mean i think uh i thought jerry goth played pretty good uh i thought gibbs had a great game um you know i was in buffalo uh went to the game, which met Josh Allen, which was awesome. You know, they scored a bunch of points,

and the Bills Mafia is, like, one of the most incredible experiences ever. So, outside of, like, a three-hour stretch on Saturday, I had a pretty good weekend. Definitely didn't think about this game for, you know, so much longer. And, you know, think about all the what ifs. I would never do that. No, man. I mean, you know, we went to – I went to Meijer, pick up some snacks,

go take over to the watch party. These pita chips, just ridiculously good, man. Like at Meijer, just so good. The Red Wings won over the weekend as well i believe so i i mean do you want to talk about brian branch like he played good he is incredible i really don't know what more at this point that we can say about this current michigan team um you know i'm a reactionary person so saturday i'm trying not to be trying to you know I'd like to think I have good self-awareness when it comes to like, I have good emotional intelligence.

Like I can tell what bothers me and what frustrates me. I don't really know where to go from here. I just, I don't know if I see anything that gives me any sort of hope or anything that I can hang my hat on and say hey this team at least at this group or this guy is getting better right this guy is playing better football today than he was in september i don't know if i can say that about anybody like i really don't which is crazy because of the talent that you have on the roster, right? Yeah. Even like, you know, you'd hoped.

I think we went into this year like, okay, you've got, you know, five first-round draft picks, right, or close to it. I don't know. We'll see how that shakes out. Nobody's draft stock is rising currently at the moment, I don't think. Maybe Josiah Stewart. Josiah Stewart is the best player on this team at the moment he definitely is and he's the guy playing the hardest colson you know colson

there's not much right like you can't you can't pin much on some of these guys i mean they're they're doing what they can and they're just not getting a lot of help from from areas where they would need help to shine um josiah stewart's the one guy that's really flashing i mean you know mason Graham is Mason Graham. I think those guys having to play a lot of snaps is probably, you know, what we thought in the offseason, maybe these guys are conditioned to play 60 snaps a game. I mean, they just don't have the ability.

And Rayshon Benny's out on Saturday. So, you know, you're going deep when you don't have a lot of depth. And so you're kind of relying on those guys. I mean, defensively, I thought this was maybe one of their better performances. You know, they give up that long fake punt, which is like situational awareness. Just a dagger, dude, dagger. Like at this point, when I was watching, not to go back to the Lions, but when they tried that fake punt, i saw immediately that the vikings had

one guy deep and they had like two two high safeties like they're just playing a defensive front uh against that that fake punts like why don't you just do that um michigan has blocked one punt this year it was because the minnesota player just was like i don't know if he understood like what his role was on a punt um Otherwise, the special teams have been pretty mediocre. Mediocre is putting it – I mean, Zavada has been awesome. Tommy Doman has really, really, really struggled, if we're being honest. And, you know, I just think that they – you know, a year ago, our special teams was – we had a really good team and still our

special teams was sometimes the best part of our our game right and so that struggled i mean i don't know we're all over the map right now in terms of what we're talking about and all that stuff but i i think that like let's just start with vibes. I want to start there. Because the vibes are so low. There is like, you know, I like to use the term juice. Like, you got to have some juice to you, right? Like, do you have any juice? Are you going in with a, you know, with like, all right, let's, you know, get fired up. We're, we've got grit.

We're, you know, we're gonna go on and and we're gonna uh play with an enthusiasm known to mankind where that is nowhere to be found that the enthusiasm known to mankind is currently in los angeles well no i think michigan is known to mankind because it's so low that you see you know. Everybody's known that level of enthusiasm. Yeah, I don't really know what else to kind of talk about. I mean, I think I'm done picking this team to win games in our prediction segments. You know, you thought, again, you thought, okay, you struggle at the end of the game against Minnesota,

but you win and you're 4-1. You're undefeated in the Big Ten. So, okay, you can get a bill on this, right? And we talked about, hey, you should beat Washington. You should beat Illinois. you should be illinois you should beat michigan state you should be seven going into the matchup with oregon now you're staring down the barrel of being four and four with oregon looming with indiana who's number 13 in the country in the polls right now just completely decimated nebraska you know those remember those uh the the charts from statu war on twitter of how bad did my team get beaten but you know how michigan was on that far right column every single week every week indiana was

on the farthest right and it wasn't even close they beat the shit out of nebraska and so you're looking at going to bloomington you're probably going to lose to Indiana you've got Northwestern at home which that might be a rock fight not even a dog fight that's gonna be a rock fight and then you go to Columbus and so you're looking at this as worst case scenario four and eight best case scenario six and six because I don't feel that there's any any chance in hell that they beat oregon or indiana or ohio state at this point and the defense has again the defense was was okay on on saturday they were not the issue they played well given the circumstances of the offense continually giving the ball away the offense got bailed out by a holding call on on illinois on

the interception where i don't know it looked like John O'Korn in the Ohio state game in 2017. There was a point there where it should have been like what three turnovers in like five plays or something like that. At least that's what it felt like. Yes. So you can't, I don't know. I really don't know what they do. I don't know what the solution is. There's got to be a lot of changes at the end of the year. Like there has to be minimum multiple changes on this current staff. I think some guys are probably stretched too thin. You think about Lamar Morgan coaching the entire secondary.

We thought he'd be okay to be able to do that because he was a defensive coordinator in the Sun Belt. And he's a guy who Jesse Minter would have hired as his, you know, safeties coach or corners coach had Jesse Minter still been here and needed to replace somebody, right? But when you watch this team, I just don't see any growth or development from the secondary. I think the defensive line, Esposito is probably the best position coach on this staff at the moment. I think they're the ones kind of really carrying their weight. Maybe not making the flash plays, but, you know,

they're about the only group that I look at with any sort of positivity at the moment of like, okay, these guys are pretty good and maybe not living up to the billing that we thought they would. You know, those all-American type of guys in the center, but the center of the defensive line. but Josiah Stewart's played really well. I like what I see TJ guy. So honestly, at this point, outside of Lou Esposito, I don't think anybody should be safe. And I hate to call for people's jobs and that's not necessarily what I want to

do. I don't agree, but we're, we're to that point, man. I, you know, I think that to put it simply, we're doing less with more. We said it when you and I were just chatting pre-show. There really aren't many guys that have made any types of progression. If anything, it's regression. Guys are getting worse. And when you're sitting here with mason graham and kenneth's grant and like yes i agree with you they're not the problem right there there are a lot of other problems but if you can point to anybody that has gotten better

with this coaching staff i'd be i'd be Josiah Stewart's playing phenomenal, but he also, let's be honest, played really well last year too. So it's not like he's like made a huge leap. You know what I mean? I mean, you know, just to stick on that point, I think TJ Guy's playing well. TJ Guy's playing well. I think Benny's, you know, back to what he was.

And so, yeah, I don't know, man. There are moments of brilliance from that interior d-line duo obviously with with graham and grant um both guys are gonna be very very good productive pros but yeah i'm with you i don't i don't see anybody that's gotten better i think what's gonna be really frustrating for myself and a lot of michigan fans next year is watching if mason gra Kenneth Grant, Will Johnson, Colston Loveland, Josiah Stewart, if all those guys just ball out at the next level.

They're going to. And I do believe if they're going to, then that's going to be like, it was kind of like the Nico Collins situation, right, where you're like, hey, guys, Nico Collins is one of the top receivers in the nfl right now we couldn't figure out how to get the ball to him more than three times a game right and right now you're seeing it's you know similar in the fact of like hey you've got a ton of talent all over the field you can't figure out how to win a ball game with that right and

i ultimately like you know every single thing that happens on the field right now comes back to coaching. I agree with you. I hate to call for people's jobs. You know, I, I believe that Sharon Moore can be a good football coach and probably will be a good football coach at some point. The reality of the situation is he doesn't have any experience as a head coach.

Right. This is all uncharted territory. He learned under one of the best coaches in the history of football, right, in Jim Harbaugh. But at the end of the day, it's different when it's just you, when you're the guy, right? And I think that there – again, we've talked about this on a lot of shows. There are a ton of variables as to why the staff is the way it is right now.

And this roster is the way it is right now. But there are teams out there, including the one that you're about to go up against in the Michigan State Spartans that are that have the exact same situation and are showing great signs of life. They're showing a ton of progression. Washington under Jed Fish is the same exact situation, right? Now, both those teams did get a quarterback, which would change a lot, right? If you would have gotten the Will Rogers or even an Aiden Childs, who is making strides

then that changes a lot but i'm just saying there are teams around the country that had the same situation with a head coach leaving and a ton of the roster and they're playing a hell of a lot better than michigan so look at well and you know there's the there's the, there's the caveat of, okay, they got there in late November, early December. Right. So they had time to, to build things out and they weren't focused on winning a national championship. And again, if I would still, if you told me, Hey, you're going to win national championship,

you've got to go own 12 the next year, whatever, you know, like you take the national championship. Right. So we're living that hypothetical of one of those Twitter polls of like, you win the national championship, but your team sucks the next year. Okay. Sure. But like you look at Indiana, like how quickly did that team get turned around? They were brutal last year. And Chris Cignetti comes in and he's a guy who's won everywhere he's been.

And I think he's very cocky. And I kind of like it, honestly, until he beats Michigan. Indiana football has never seen before. It's like, why is Indiana football talking shit right now? What is going on?

He is spot on man um but yeah i'm with you i mean you look at what jim harbaugh has done um and trying to replace that with anybody let alone a first-time head coach who's in his late 30s like it's just a just tall order and maybe we were just sipping a lot of the kool-aid this offseason right we're coming i i think just in general like you saw what Shrell Moore did in those last three games Penn State Maryland and Ohio State and you're like all right this is the guy right which I don't like he was the obvious choice at the time unless you could maybe get a Caitlin DeBoer I have no idea if that was a thing right like some people speculate that we didn't even

reach out or you know you could have had him I have no idea I don't think anybody really knows but I think in general like it's it's not like he was the choice at the time you were gonna go with Jerome Moore he proved it in those games he he won that coaching job and Jim Harbaugh said, Hey, this is the guy. Right. So like, you know, you can hindsight's 2020 and you can say, Oh, you know, ward sucks and blah, blah, blah. But at the re the reality is like, at the time everyone's like, yeah, that's our guy. Right. And so I think you're just going through a ton of growing pains and unfortunately you're just not playing up to the level that you,

you need to play. And I think it's most what's most frustrating to me is every single thing that we're bad at is a controllable. It is turnovers, penalties, being ready, preparedness. Right. Like all mental anything mental. We're not good at. Having grit, we have zero grit, which I thought that, like, from a culture standpoint, Sharone was, like, going to be, like, even a better culture fit than Jim Harbaugh, honestly.

And none of that has come true, and I think that's probably the most frustrating thing for me. Yeah, well, I wonder, too, this is the least amount of points Michigan scored since Brady Hoeks last year in 2014. thing for me yeah well i wonder too this is the least amount of points michigan scored uh since brady hoax last year in 2014 so like do you need a complete reset of you know the offseason program and do you need to do the hardball thing where you just kick guys asses for you know however many months until spring ball and just weed out guys who want to be here and who loves football right is that the is that the thing Is that how you take this thing?

You know, because Jim Harbaugh coming in, Michigan had gone, well, under Brady Hogan, it was 11-2, 8-5, 7-6, 5-7. And a lot of the same issues that plague those teams are plaguing this current team with probably more talent on this team, especially defensively. I mean, that 2014 Michigan team had some guys that would turn out to be really good players under Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh comes in and goes 10-3, 10-3.

And potentially, again, you know, play away from, you know, going to the playoffs in 2016 in year two. So, like, the way that this team plays is just very uncharacteristic because even when Michigan was, you know, 10-3, 9-4, and you're pissed because ah they're not winning the big game on on the on the schedule at the end of the year they're at least you know beating teams that they have more talent and they're beating them convincingly those teams would beat the shit out of illinois at illinois absolutely i mean even the 2019 team

that wasn't that great still beat them by 17 uh in champaign with shea patterson a quarterback so i'll tell you what i'd take Shea on this team. Oh, my God. I'd take Shea Patterson. Shea would say – I'd take John O'Korn. How many wins does Shea Patterson get you this year? Like, if you're talking like war, like baseball, war, right?

To this point, it's six. It's six and one. With average quarterback play, this team is six and one. Correct. Correct. And I think, you know, we've got to talk about it. Like, again, hindsight's 20-20, but you're looking at it like, man, did you ever really need to move on from Davis Warren?

You knew what Alex knew what alex orgy was i you know i don't we got to the point in three starts from alex orgy and you literally couldn't throw the ball with him right and then tunnel comes in obviously he he had a phenomenal comeback game and in washington in Washington that made back-breaking mistakes. But, I mean, let's be real, Tanner. What he did on Saturday, you know, unfortunately, there are multiple times where Colston Loveland's wide open. He's not even close to hitting him. Right?

Yeah. I mean, and we can kind of – I'm going to group this in i guess because you know you don't you're on 217 you're driving you're taking nine minutes off the clock by the way you're snapping the ball with single digits your text when you said like we're we're snapping the ball with five seconds left in the play clock like dude we're huddling we're acting like we're sucking clock because we're up 21 right so you go down you i mean you get down to the red zone and i have not re-watched the game i don't know if i need to put myself through that um but i feel like they were moving the ball they were running the ball so hey you know obviously when you run the ball clock's

going to come off but i wish they would have been a little bit more uh you know quick getting to the line and they're substituting so that illinois is late substituting and they're dictating the clock situation on the play clock and so they're just wasting time but you get down there and i feel like you you get away from the run game in the red zone uh and then i think there was maybe a sack and you kick a field goal gets blocked, but you're down 14 late third. I think maybe early fourth. I don't remember exactly when, what is the point of going from down 14 to down 11?

Right. Because either way, this offense is going to need to score two touchdowns. So what is the thought process of, well, you know, we can kick a field goal and yeah, maybe you can get a two pointpoint conversion with another field goal. But how many drives are you going to have? And then how many times are you going to be able to get down inside the red zone with this offense?

You have to be able to take advantage of it. You have to come up with something creative. There was some stuff that I liked. I liked earlier in the game when Michigan needed a third and long. They did kind of like this pop pass to Colson Loveland, almost like a power design to the right side I thought that was great problem is is that doesn't happen often enough this team is so boring they're so predictable on offense and so when you get down

inside the red zone what like where is the creativity where where are the things that work so well last year obviously different players are not as talented i totally get that but you can create issues with the defense that are going to get guys open right like where is the orbit motion that roman wilson scored a touchdown on against alabama like do something like that i don't know if it's going to work but at least try something other than just continually running it uh and then when the run's working you just start trying to throw it in the red zone like i don't understand what like how have we not learned that when things get tough you just give it to colal mullings how have we not learned you should get 35 carries a game at this point literally like just ride him ride him and so i i was again i was at the bills titans game yesterday it was very fun um what's funny was that the bills one ended one, ended up winning by, I don't know,

17 points or something. But the first quarter, the Titans were just thrashing the Bills with Mason Rudolph at quarterback. And I think he only threw – they scored 10 points in their first two drives. I think he only threw, like, 10 points in their first two drives. I think he only threw like one pass across the middle over 10 yards. Everything else was a like dink and dunk. They'd slip a tight end out. They'd slip the running back out.

They'd have a little crossing route. And I'm sitting there and then they'd like run on second and seven and get eight yards. And I'm sitting there like, we don't need to be like, you know, you don't have to be throwing the ball 15, 20 yards downfield if you don't have a quarterback that can do it. But, like, they tried with Colston to start getting him open, you know, in the second half, I thought.

But, like, before that, what's the play? What's the plan? Like, why can't you be creative enough to try and get samaj morgan in space you know like i don't know i don't know it feels like the plan at this point is to just be like oh look we're trying to throw the ball to sell to recruits which i'd rather win games but that's just me um like is that the plan like how many times did tell throw it 32 or something like that how many times did jj mcc McCarthy throw the damn ball 32 times in a game? Very, very few.

Very few. Right? And, like, obviously, yeah, you don't have Blake Cormier. You don't have Zinner, Keegan, you know, Olu, and Nugent. But, like, I don't know, man. I'm just out of answers. Right? Like, I'm out of answers.

The staff's out of answers. I don't know if they have any way that they can fix this thing. I think one of the things that it's very obvious to me while watching this team is there isn't one person, coach, or player that believes that they can go out and win. That's kind of crazy. Don't you feel that? Don't you watch them and you're like, they're sitting there looking to somebody on their left or right saying hey do you have the answer because i don't

i don't know what i i don't think any of that offense said like they're not going out and being like we're gonna go fucking score this drive nobody's sitting there and saying that well i can tell you that from the top they don't have answers because i just saw earlier today that sean moore said that they don't know who their starter quarterback is going to be and they're going to figure out this week it's week eight is it is it week that's week nine week nine i don't know whatever it's almost november honestly at this point you know every november i look forward to the michigan ohio state game i think this year i'm looking forward to some release some sneaker releases is what I got going on November Justin that's what I'm looking forward to the most man so I'm just down I'm just really

just down horrendously at this point bro like I really don't know what I can again hang my hat on or be excited about the future because so many guys are gone after this year so it's like that's the thing is what what does next year look like man unless you have like you have to go full portal full portal full like crazy i mean you have to like flip the entire roster essentially and probably flip both coordinators right like i mean it's tough because i don't know man i mean i think mark 23 million and kurt campbell is I don't know, man. I mean, Wink-Martin is $23 million, and Kirk Campbell is, I don't know how much I can pin on him because of the quarterback play, but at the same time, it's just been atrocious, right?

Like, it's just been awful. And also a guy who, you know, couldn't cut it to Old Dominion. So, I just keep throwing my hands up because this is literally, I have no idea what they can do do but it's going to be bad here's the thing too here's where we're at with going into next season i mean you're you're you're colston loveland said this season they're just going to try and wreck people's seasons right um so our season's gone you're playing to ruin other people's seasons you're not playing for yourself anymore so i'm looking to 2025.

If you get rid of both coordinators and flip the roster, like we both just said, we think is necessary. You're back to year zero. You're not in year two, right? You're taking a step back and you have to like take a step back to, to take a step forward. But it's like, instead of what we could have had with like, hey, what, you know, even if they went eight and four this year and it's like, oh, but we saw like sides of progression and it's like, all right, we kind of figured things out in some games that I would be like, OK, I'm OK with that. We can we can work with that. You took a huge step back.

You're going to have to clean house and then you're in year zero and it's like okay now what right now you're building from nothing and you have to establish the culture with new coaches new players i mean it's just really freaking hard dude really hard yeah i mean and especially when you know it's not just a continuity hire but it is part of it as to why you hire chiron is to keep the culture to have that continuity uh you know the consistency that the team has had over the last few years if that's not there then you know like i don't i don't know so it's it's really tough to think about what you know next year looks like but i will say i saw a quote from Sharon where I can't –

I don't have the exact quote. I don't feel like looking it up because it'll waste a lot of time. But basically what he was saying is, like, I know what, you know, the standard is at Michigan, and we're not, you know, living up to it. And so the way that it was worded, from what I remember when I read it, I think our boy Dick Stauskas kind of said something similar, but, like, it kind of gives me hope that like Sharon is like going to be cutthroat. You have to be,

you can't be boys, right? Cause if you're not winning, who cares? Right? Like you, you have to fight for your life when you're the head football coach at a major program like Michigan.

And if you're not getting it done, you got to say, sorry, boys, I got to get guys in here that can win. And so you've got to be a dick. You've got to be cutthroat. You've got to've gotta just say hey i'm your leash is gone man i saw enough so going into because like michigan's not unless it's just completely terrible which it's already been pretty

bad but if it's just i don't know if you lose out then maybe but i just don't think that michigan's a type of institution that will make a decision like that after one year unless it's just like 100 or nothing to iu like i mean even let's be honest like the basketball team was 8 and 24 and and they didn't make a move until after the season and that that was as bad as it could get right right but so you're thinking going into year two you have to flip it you've gotta just you gotta pay for the best assistance you gotta just go poach people you've gotta go poach people from other teams rosters you've gotta get quarterbacks i hate trying to get all your office alignment from the portal but you gotta fill in some gaps right you gotta hope that some guys

are going to be able to be ready to play next year and then fill in the gaps right if you need a new center which look let's be honest probably do you need a guard whatever like but you want to have some sort of continuity on that offensive line of like okay we're not just having five brand new starters uh from different programs you want to have a couple guys that have been seasoned um had been with michigan for a few years so you've got to go try to find that you've got to get like four or five wide receivers you've got to get probably a couple quarterbacks, to be honest with you. You've got to get some running backs. Like, I mean – Where don't you need a couple?

Tight ends. Maybe the secondary if you can get some, like, development and coaching out of that. Maybe the corners because Jire Hill, still a young kid. Josiah Edmond is a freshman coming up who was it was a big-time guy uh who was a freshman on this year's team maybe Rod Moore comes back I that would be huge that would be huge for next year's team if he weren't willing and able to come back and you know put another year of film on on tape because he's just that guy I think we miss him so much I mean I don't know how

much it would matter because his offense is so putrid. Also, it would be awesome to have him come back because he knows, like, what a winning team looks like. Absolutely. He would be 2025's Aiden Hutchinson, right? Right. He knows what preparation, like, good preparation in order to win a football game looks like. And that's what we're, like, missing right now for some reason.

I don't know. The one thing I really get concerned about, too, is, and I'm not saying this is true, and so I don't want um the one thing i really get concerned about too is and i'm not saying this is true and so i don't want it to come off like i'm calling him out but like will johnson you know heading to the sideline i have no idea what is uh what his injury is but like would you blame him for sitting out no i was gonna ask that in this podcast is that the last time we see him in a michigan uniform i i don't think it's crazy to ask that like and like i just think that i you're just gonna see that that's 2024 college football as well as like hey if you're not on a winning team that's gonna go to the playoff and you're about to make 30 million dollars in the nfl and be a top five pick it's like is it worth it to go you know possibly hurt get injured more and lose millions of dollars yeah but then it's like you should probably forgo your collective check

yeah like what how does that work out you know um yeah i mean you know a lot of this stuff well go ahead i was just gonna say a lot of these juniors who are sophomores last year, their legacy is cemented. Right. But you just, like a little sour taste. Yeah. I was going to say, go out with a whimper. Right. Like you're so good as freshmen and sophomores. And you know, that's the disappointing thing. Cause we know how good they are. We know how good they can play football. And it just has not been you know, that this year, you know, Will's made some plays, guys have made some plays, but it's just not been, you know, this year um yeah will's made some plays guys have made some plays but it's just not been you know what what missions michigan's expected and you know honestly probably

the worst michigan defense outside of covid and since brady oak probably i don't know that's what it feels like at least and um i i put this question up there i I mean, where is Jaden Davis? I don't know if I even care to see him this year, not because I don't think he's good, but because I don't necessarily think there's any reason to ruin him. And in a Bryce Young type of situation, right? Like you put him in front of a battle line, he sees ghosts, he's ruined. Right?

Like it's just a tough spot to put a true freshman 19-year-old kid in. But, like, also it doesn't matter if we win the games, honestly, right? So, is it like, you know, I don't know. I see it both ways. I definitely agree with you. I don't want to ruin him for sure. But I also, like, I – what are you – what's the plan for this weekend? That's my question. what's the plan for this weekend? That's my question.

What's the plan? Like, you know, you're going to trot out one of those three guys and be like, hey, this is a good option to win. Like, can you look me in the eye and say, yeah, one of these three is a good option for us to go and beat a four and three Michigan State team. Yeah, I mean mean they just they just beat iowa i know that i was probably a better version of michigan um that is sickening to hear

the first couple weeks of the season michigan's a better version of iowa absolutely not um yeah i don't know i mean i don't know if they've had a plan all season or since, you know, the offseason started because you go and you don't go in and get a portal guy at the quarterback position, which we know they're optionally limited. We've talked about this a ton, and we've probably beaten it to death. But I don't know if there's been a cohesive plan all the past nine months, Justin, at this point. It does feel like they're

firing from the hip a little bit right it's like what's you know i don't know what what is the plan because i i i don't see like there's no identity there's no you know when you're moving forward i just like i don't know i'm i'm sitting here looking at this game that's staring us down on saturday and i think i get the feeling this is how i feel too but i get the feeling that this team is also like shit we like they're like scared of michigan state coming in because because they're scared to lose, right? Like that is sickening to me. We're 10 months out of a natty where we beat them 49 to fucking nothing. Tanner.

I was there. I was there. I had an incredible time. And the difference between those two teams was insanity. It was a college football team playing a high school team was legitimately what it was and now you're 10 months later and you're looking at michigan state with really no talent not not no talent but minimal talent coming into ann arbor and even though we're i don't know seven point favorites whatever, right now it came out. I was shocked at the line when it opened up, I think,

seven and a half or something or six and a half. And even with that, I just feel that our team is sitting there like, shit, we do not want to go out there and play this game. Yeah, I mean, I was hoping. We had 2017 vibes. I felt okay going into 2017. This is probably the worst i felt going into this game since like 2014 probably the state game gardner joe bolton steak in the ground tent stake yeah um it's kind of wild to apologize for that by the way but that was 10 years ago so who gives a shit i was kind of i was looking i was kind of hoping that the

chargers had their bye week this week or something that jim could come and give a speech or something i don't know maybe ben herbert could come and do something um yeah i just don't yeah there's just no juice i can't imagine what the big house is going to be like on saturday um my my start to hear some boo birds i can tell you that because i've been away from home i mean the last time we saw them they were four 4-1, leaving the big house, getting ready to go on a two-game road trip, I guess. It is crazy because you left that game and you're like, dude, the whole season's ahead of us and you can do whatever, right?

Everything was ahead. Everything was in front of them. And then, yeah, they just were were absolutely terrible uh against washington for the most part and uh just brutal against illinois i mean i don't even know how to put it into words uh so yeah i don't know man i just i apologize to our listeners because this has to be the most depressing podcast of all time. You know, sometimes it's like, you know, I like to listen. You know, I like to feel it makes me feel alive.

You know, I know. Sometimes it's like a hate listen for your own team. Yeah, exactly. I need to vent. Like, yeah, I was dreading coming on here and talking to you about this. But also it's like it's therapeutic to get it out. We might get like 10K views, honestly. Like the two post loss or this will be the third but the post lost podcasts uh like texas one was like 10 000 and i think the washington was like four or

five thousand so you know people love to love to enjoy our misery, which is fine. But guess what? Those people listening, you're still not going to get an undefeated national champion this year. You're not. So never forget that. I did. We may be dog shit right now, but don't forget who dog walked you the last three football seasons and ended your hopes of winning national championships three times. I guess Georgia did, but we exposed some things. Look, Michigan's not great right now.

It is what it is. But just remember, because you slid with a second left, you're not getting that undefeated national championship. You're not replicating what Michigan did last year in a peak roster. So just remember that as you're listening to this. And you're enjoying us being in depths of sorrow. Just remember that. Shout out to our listeners from uh columbus ohio

because it's our number number two market our number so thank you appreciate you guys um also i was asking my bills friends this weekend they're like diehard bills the same way that we are about michigan and you know they've been like, inches away from winning a Super Bowl and trying to beat Pat Mahomes. And I said, if you guys were to win, like, if I told you, hey, you're going to go win the Super Bowl this year, but next year you're going to go, like, 5-11, and they all, like, stopped me before I even posed the question. Like, yes, we will take the Super Bowl 1,000%.

And I was like, all all right that answers it then uh i you know i'm i'm gonna take my daddy i'm good i'm not good i'm not complacent but i i'm you know you'll you'll take it 10 times out of 10 so absolutely man i mean you know michigan has two national championships in my lifetime which is the same as a lot of other people unless you're born in like 1970 from other fan bases so you know some fan bases you may not have any in your lifetime you know so i i've got two i was i wasn't cautious in 1997 but it still happened when i was alive so yeah you know these they come around every so often and sometimes you gotta deal with some shit right 98 michigan starts off oh and two so you know it's not like we're we're not used to these things um but i'm

just hard to win it is. It's hard to win. It is. It's very hard to win a national championship. Our friends down south really know that. Our friends about an hour and a half north of us really know that. No, I mean, I'm just going to keep talking about last year. I'm just going to keep reminiscing. I have like 17 different national championship hats that I can wear

to just keep the vibes high. I'm not going gonna talk about helping that a year like michigan at a year might be sales might be rising right now because it's just like all right i should have never went on sale last year or earlier this year they went they had everything like 75 off and i was just scooping it all up i think that people might be buying it more now because it's like oh shit i need to shit, I need to just sit here and think about that. Spin zone. Here's a spin zone.

I really like to rebuild teams on NCAA. And so we've got the game back. You've got a chance to rebuild Michigan, right? Normally I've got to go to other teams because Michigan's pretty good and it's kind of boring because I can just get all the recruits. You might need to knock a couple of prestigious stars off us and let me go to work. You know, let me get in there. Let's get you in the lab. Let's we'll get,

we'll put together a plan and get it over to the coaching staff and see. Yeah. I might just put, I might just record some gameplay, put up a video how to fix Michigan's offense. And it's just me running with club Mullings every play. Just see if it works he has 80 carries on the day yep 100% 19 carries is not enough

his usage this year has been criminal what do you know when he came in and started getting the ball the offense started moving crazy thought just from a guy who you know watches football like maybe you should give it to one of your best players on offense because getting the ball to Cole Mullings is a lot easier than getting it to colson loveland at this point so unless you do that little end around reverse cool thing which

was again shout out kirk because i was pretty cool well that's cool all right well um we uh are going to have another pod out this week we We're actually going to have our friends from Spartans Illustrated to preview the Michigan State game. We are working on a campaign called Rivals for a Cause this week, raising money for the Mott Children's Hospital. And so we're teaming up with some Sparties here and going to try to have some fun with this.

Okay, going to try to have some fun, raise some money for a great cause. So we'll be having a fun get-together at Pretzel Bell on Friday night as well. So come out and check us out. And if you can donate, we appreciate it. So we will be back to preview this Michigan-Michigan State game. Live pod. Live pod. Live pod.

Live pod for sure. We'll be having some Hale IPA, some Suncruiser, Truly Hard Seltzer for sure. So we are going to make the best of this. That's what we're going to do. Yep. It's going to be cold on Friday, by the way. So, you know, we've got to bundle up for the live pod outdoors.

You know, Saturday, high of 54, going to be a colder one. Lay way so you know we got to bundle up for the live pod outdoors um you know saturday high of 54 gonna be a colder one layers you know i'll take it if the sun is out yeah the tailgate's going to be electric i'll say that i'm gonna need i'm gonna need something to keep me warm we we will i i can guarantee you there will be at least one victory on saturday and we will win the tailgate we will i will win at least one game of flip cup i've gotten good this year that's uh maybe i need to suck at flip cup again maybe that's why michigan is losing could you do that please yes okay yes basketball team feels like there's always an inverse right basketball team's good it's you know um they look pretty good i didn't get to watch but i mean you know i know oakland

lost a lot but that's the team That went to the tournament Last year And they beat the breaks Off of them in an exhibition So excited to watch these guys Excited to try to see If I can find some highlights

Of that I don't know if they'll have them But basketball season Is upon us I hate sitting here In October Saying it's basketball season God it feels like 2014

2020 That's where we are The Dusty May era Has begun So We'll Hey We'll keep chugging along So Alright for us 2014, 2020. That's where we are. The Dusty May era has begun. So, hey, we'll keep chugging along. So, all right. For us, you can follow us at Blue by 90 on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,

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