Blue By Ninety - Sherrone Moore IMPRESSIVE at first B1G Media Days | MORE OSU Excuses? | Connor Stalions NETFLIX Doc?

Episode Date: July 26, 2024

Justin, Kailen, and Tanner talk Sherrone Moore's first time as head coach in Indianapolis at the annual Big Ten Media days, how Los Angeles is not ready for Jim Harbaugh's quirkiness, and a new Netflix documentary focuing on Connor Stalions and the 2023 NCAA witch hunt.

All right, welcome back to Blue by 90. I'm Justin, joined by Tanner and Kalen. Today is Thursday, July 25th, and I was just told today's the last Thursday without football in our lives for the rest of the year. We made it. We made it. We're so close. We're so close. I always get excited for the Hall of Fame game, and then I watch it, and all the starters are pulled immediately. It's the worst game ever. It's worse

than the Pro Bowl, honestly. The Pro Bowl doesn't even exist at this point. It's football. It's football. You can at least warm up to the fact that football is right around the corner. I don't think I've ever watched it. I put it on, I look at the screen, and I'm like, oh my gosh, football. And then I'm going to be honest. I don't think I've ever watched it. I've put it on. I look at the screen.

I'm like, oh my gosh, football. And then I end up doing something else. Yeah, absolutely. I watched the pregame. You hear the, I think NBC is the broadcast. So you hear the NBC music and you're like, oh, it should be like October 12th, like Sunday night football.

And it's cold out. It's starting to get to hoodie weather. But for August, early August, there's starting to get to hoodie weather. But, you know, for August, early August, there's worse things to have on the TV. The stretch from – and I know we're going to have the – thankfully the Olympics to watch. You know, I'm going to watch the men's Olympic basketball. But probably some other stuff, some swimming, things like that.

But, like, the stretch from the NBA finals to, like, actual football, like week zero college football, is the worst stretch of TV, in my opinion. You just have nothing on. Unless you're our buddy Caleb, who watches 162 Cubs games a year, religiously, not sure how he does it. I can't do that, personally.

I'll check the score on Twitter. I'm a big baseball guy. I still can't do that. He has a newborn, too. That is just wild. Speaking of, Tanneranner you became a dad congratulations yeah thank you yes thank you uh baby girl was born on july 21st at 202 p.m and mom's doing great baby's doing great it's very surreal but also real at the same time like

i don't know how to describe it it's a very first of all wide range of emotions um i've always been like a gentler person for the most part and so this is like having a baby girl is like i'm i've tweeted to say like i'm the softest person now like certain songs does it feel like you're like going through like a period where like something like a leaf falls and you're like oh my god like no little things will like set you off and make like i don't know how much um you guys are listeners are into country music but uh cody johnson's a pretty big country music guy a star i should say and he's got a song called dirt cheap and it's about like a farmer not wanting to move away from his property and the guys are trying to come and buy it and you know development and all that stuff and i'm not i've never grew up a farmer

i'm not a farming family but the one part of the song that always get me is he talks about under that cross is his best buddy's buried and it's his dog but the line before that is the brown hair and the pink bow and so that song would make me feel a certain type of way but now when i hear it my daughter has brown hair saying my daughter by the way is just crazy but like you know she hasn't worn any pink bows yet but she's got them you know and i'm like When I hear it, my daughter has brown hair saying my daughter, by the way, it's just crazy. But like, you know, she hasn't worn any pink bows yet,

but she's got them, you know? And I'm like, Oh my God. So like I hear that song. Um, there's there, it's more so like certain songs or like certain scenes in movies now that if I

watch, cause we've been watching a lot of movies, um, put on like a lot of Disney, I was going to put on Hercules, but the whole point of that movie is like Hercules gets taken away from his parents. And I was going to put on Hercules, but the whole point of that movie is Hercules gets taken away from his parents. I was like, probably not the best thing to watch at the moment.

There are certain things that trigger me a little bit more. I feel like I have... I don't want to go on a huge rant on this, but I want more empathy and grace for people now. I've always been empathetic, but it's even more so now. I don't know. It's hard to describe. Are you now empathetic with it's even more so now like i don't know it's it's hard to describe do you are you like are you now empathetic with ohio state fans like oh no i mean like i mean like things

that like matter you know like like like real things um no that was that i mean it's very real the last three years um it was real um but no like you know if you're if you're i don't know i yeah maybe i don't know i know you are um i'm trying to i'm also running on like no sleep too so this will be fun um but yeah it's uh it changes you and you you hold your daughter and it's like holy cow you know it's it's the coolest fucking thing i've ever experienced so now i'm really surprised that we didn't get a tweet that was like this is my daughter beau schoenbeckler or you know like. Come on, man. No, we, yeah, it's a very good name. You lost that battle. That's what I'm hearing.

Yeah, well, no. I get the name the dogs. Well, Claudia recommended the name. I'll share the name with you guys off. I'm just, we're a little private, especially with some of the things that have been tweeted at me when I announced our pregnancy and things like that. So I'm going to take it,

you know, a little bit slow on that front, but it's a beautiful name. And Claudia came up with it and I'll share it with you guys. I think you'll appreciate it. Cause it's, it's sentimental to me, which is really cool.

But yeah, man, I was telling Caitlin before the show, like how quickly football season is approaching and how quick the off season went. I think for me, I don't want to get your guys' thoughts, but for me,

it was like preparing to be a dad and like all the things and like going to the doctor and like the countdown. So went. I think for me, and I want to get your guys' thoughts, but for me it was preparing to be a dad and all the things and going to the doctor and the countdown. So I'd love to know for you guys, does offseason fly by for you too? Is it just me? Because it feels like it's like, holy cow, we're already here. Well, I definitely think when your season goes through mid-January, I mean, the data shows that it is a shorter offseason than everybody else. Yeah, if your season ends late November.

Right. Then, like, yeah, it's probably been a really long offseason for some people, like in the middle of Ohio or something. But for us in Ann Arbor, it's a shorter offseason. But, yeah, I mean, I feel like it is like we're six days away from August, which feels insane. And then, like, guys are in camp. I think next Wednesday Michigan football reports to camp.

And it's like – then it's going to be like, holy shit, it really is here. Like, we're going to get guys at the podium. We're going to get, like, talks about, like, all right, depth chart. Like, even I saw – we'll talk a little bit about Sharon and the, in media days and stuff like that. I saw him talking about some camp battles already and stuff like that. And it's like, all right, now we're, we're getting into it. So yeah. Why don't we talk about media days real quick? I mean, I think that first of all,

awesome guys to represent Michigan. First of all, Sharon you know, we can talk about him doing a fantastic job up there. But Max Bredesen, friend of the pod, love him to death. He's the man. Dono, love him to death. He's the man. And then Makari. Makari, he's kind of just the old head just like chilled out guy um but it feels like I I thought you know for the reigning national champions it was like pretty humble up there

and and it's like it's kind of a weird weird vibe right because like normally you would come up there I would assume you're the reigning national champs nobody can touch you maybe you're talking your shit but like these guys are different they approach approach it very differently obviously chiron is the new guy in town too so that adds a different vibe too but like you know dono who we know is pretty outspoken and and has some some charisma to him even he was it was pretty humble today he definitely felt more subdued and i mean mean, you know, shout out to Jerome Moore, right? I saw him do that a couple of times. That was great.

But yeah, those guys, they just, they felt humble, but it felt like quiet confidence, right? Like they had a secret. They knew what they were bringing. They'd been there and they were like, it was almost like you already know what our product is. Come beat us. And that, it felt really good to be on that side of the table for once yeah i watched uh you know i watched ron's um presser and his q a i watched donovan i watched makari i didn't get a

chance to watch uh max's but the one thing i'll say about max and i'd love to see his you know him up at the podium or the the you know the Home Depot table folding tables that they got set up in there uh for players to sit at and take questions it does feel like they could do a little bit better right yeah at least a tablecloth or something yeah but the one thing and I probably said this on the pod before but you know getting to talk to Max um the the one you know one or two times that I have, the one thing that – he's such a football guy that he's like, I don't really watch football except for my brother who's in the NFL. I play football and I watch our film, but I don't sit there and watch games.

I don't watch the NFL. That's a football guy. But you love football so much that you love the contact and the physicality of the sport. You don't really love like what we love about watching it. And that's like ultimate football guy. So I'm excited to watch his. But like the one thing I noticed talking about Macari and Donna, like they were just real quick on max too,

before you go into that, I can, we just talk about how amazing it is to have a fullback go represent us at media days like that is jim harbaugh's dream right like michigan that that is like everything that jim harbaugh stands for and i'm shocked that he and maybe ben mason did before so i might be speaking on turn here but like how that is just perfect it's perfect for michigan it's perfect for smash it's perfect and jim harbaugh's legacy and now shero more taking it over like that's exactly what we want to be and like that's the guy i think we all want to be like the voice like

that is the the culture that is the representation of michigan football well and think back i mean how long was ago was it michigan didn't have a fullback anymore right like there was a time where Michigan was going four wide and I know that's what football has kind of changed into but we talked about it a lot last season in the last three years like when everybody zigged Michigan's act like Michigan went in a different route and it's still modern football and a lot of the concept that concepts that they run are like awesome but it's with a fullback and they still run a lot of the concepts that they run are awesome, but it's with a fullback, and they still run a lot of variations of the spread offense, and they'll get under center a lot more than other teams.

But you see it in recruiting too, and I know we're going to talk about recruiting later, but just an example, Eli Owens, who's a three-star tight end, but he's being literally recruited for the Max Bredesen role. They're going to have that H-back type of player in the offense because it does so much in goal-to-go situations, third and twos. He can also, you know, I think Max could, we've seen it in the passing game when he was more of a tight end and he wasn't wearing number 44 against Hawaii, you know, a couple of years ago, he had a big catch and run. So, yeah, to have a fullback represent Michigan, it just makes a ton of sense. But the one thing, and I'll let you guys speak on it, but with Donovan and Macari,

they were so quick to kind of pivot to their teammates. And he preys on them. And you can see that that culture is still there. And I know we're going to talk about Sharone's. I just want to say this real quick. He emphasized that a lot, talking about the brotherhood and the process to be great and the culture that Michigan has built and making sure that that stays and is upstanding with the program moving forward.

So you can kind of see it trickle down from Sharon down to the leaders and not just the guys that are in Indianapolis right now that were able to go to media days. So you see it from a lot of the leaders on the team. It's just they want to talk about their teammates. I think it was Max that was talking about TJ Guy and just couldn't stop gushing about him because he goes against him in practice. And, you know, TJ might be a big piece for Michigan as a pass rusher this year. Like, you just see that culture.

And it's not just talk. It's not a facade. Like, it's real. And you see that in how they talk about their teammates. I was just going to say, so one, that's like, again, a Jim Harbaugh thing, right? The pass off, talk to this guy, right? Like that is real. And I think everyone like you realize that like all these kids are so impressionable, right?

And they take on the characteristics of their head coach, right? And that's a Jim Harbaugh thing too. And I think I love that that's turned over into the Sherone Moore era as well. But at first when you would hear last year JJ talk and Blake talk and all these guys talk, and then now this year Donovan and Brady and Macari and et cetera, et cetera, are all saying it, at first you're like, holy smokes, those are well-trained guys. They are well-trained for the media.

You know, shout out Dave Abloff. He has done his thing. They're not going to say anything poorly. They're not doing that. But then you, like, hear it more and more. And, you know, the couple guys, like the guys that I know personally, like that shit is real. They love each other. They're like the – Brady told me one time, he's like – I know personally, like that shit is real. They love each other. They're like,

like the Freddie, Freddie told me one time, he's like, I was like, so how's the locker room? This was more back in like March. Cause like things were new. I was like, so like, what's different, what's going on? How, how are things going? And he's like, dude, we're all just bros. Like it is just like literal family. And so I think that I love like Sharon has that mentality even more than Jim Harbaugh, where he's just like one of the boys. Like they're just like one big family and he'll die for his guys. And like that goes back to Sharon after that Penn State game, literally crying for Blake Corum. You know, like, literally, I love, I fucking love you. You know, and every Ohio State fan that tweets that gif, you're an idiot because it was one of the best moments of our, you know, of our careers, of our lives, of our fandom, and it led to a national championship, so you're a moron. But, like, that is, like, these guys would die for each other.

They really would. And you can just tell to your point, Tanner, that like these guys, they'd rather talk. They don't want to talk about themselves. One last thing that I noticed too, if you follow any of these guys on social media, they never post about themselves really. But they're always reposting their buddies their teammates on their stories in in posting about their guys and it's like that's real as well very true yeah no and i

think that's huge right i think that that brotherhood is definitely what allowed michigan to take that next step right that they were always on the cusp so it's interesting to watch some of these other teams that are in the big 10 or that have just joined the Big Ten, right? Listening to the Ohio States, the Oregons, right? Teams that are similarly on the cusp of, you know, becoming championship teams. I was even listening to some of the Oregon guys going like, we're just like brothers now. We hang out. We're family. It's like, we've been saying that for a couple years now, right? So it's kind of interesting hearing some of the Michigan rhetoric starting to rub off on other teams. Well, and the one thing I did want to share too, that I'm sure if you watch it, you saw this, but I loved like the Harbaugh-isms, you know, attacking each day with an enthusiasm

unknown to mankind. Like there's, you know, Jim is off in LA and I want to actually actually talk about that because there's a couple things that i find very funny about the media out there who doesn't really know jim harbaugh but you see a lot of that in chiron and he talked about hey like there's not a lot to fix right somebody asked him about like you know how he wants to run the program versus versus jim harbaugh and he's like there's not a lot to fix like we're gonna improve where we can improve but like there's a lot of things that worked obviously coming off of the 15 and 0 national championship season in 23 so um yeah it was also just like chiron learning from one of the greatest coaches of all time in jim harbaugh it's pretty good gig for chiron to you know obviously huge shoes to fill there's no doubt about that part but he's learned a lot to be able to step

into this role too and i mean just want to talk about him for a little bit um here too before we move on like for a guy that has only been in this role for six months right and oh and got thrown into it at the end of the season of needing to do the press conference and get all the media attention, all that stuff. Like, I'm really impressed with how he speaks, how he's handling himself. And just like, it feels like he's handling the pressure really well, which I can only imagine, like, you know, after, okay, you get thrown into things for those

last three games. You then go to play in a Rose bowl. You then go play in a national championship, win it. The whole thing flips. Now, all of a sudden you're the head coach. Like it's gotta be an absolute whirlwind of, of a year for him of a six months for him. Right. And so like he probably hasn't had a minute to even breathe so for him you know it's probably I I just I just really think I'm I'm really impressed with how he's handled it all and the way that he said things especially when you look at to the UCLA head coach who stumbled over himself for seven minutes straight, which was one of the most strangest press conferences I've ever seen. Like, that could have been Sharon, but instead, like,

I love that he's our leader right now, and it feels like, you know, he mentioned it, he wants to be the head coach here for a long time and win a lot of championships. That was a quote from him, too. And I'm sitting here like, I want him to be the head coach for a long time, too. Like of championships that was a quote from him too and i'm sitting here like i want him to be the head coach for a long time too like this is our guy i i just want to add because we're talking about jim a little bit like i love jim but it's kind of nice to have a coach go there and like have like a suit that fits right and it's tailored and can we just talk about the striped suit that Sharone was rocking?

That was sharp. I told Collin, I was like, that lineup is crisp, the fade. I mean, you know, Sharone, I think you're seeing why he is an elite recruiter and why he was the guy for the job. I mean, just like you said, I mean, he just exudes so much confidence and just has me so excited for the future of this program. Just, like, had me fired up. You know, they asked about Michigan being the hunted now because they've won the national

championship and his answer was awesome. Just talking about we've got to continue to put the same amount of work in as we have the last three years to get to that mountaintop. Like every answer was spot on and just had me really fired up. He also had some nice tidbits about some of the freshmen coming in, if we want to get into that too. You know, talking about Amarion Stewart, Channing Goodwin is being electric, which, you know,

at the receiver position kind of needs some of those guys to step up and play a little bit early. Talked about Jair Hill looking like the guy at cornerback too, which I think is huge. I think Jair Hill has NFL potential, like day one, day two draft pick potential. So just, you know, the media days give us a lot of soundbites, but they also give us a lot of good nuggets of information and get to kind of see, you know, we obviously know who the leaders of the team are, but cemented in the fact that they flew down to Indy with those three guys.

And yeah, man, I'm just really fired up for the season and seeing what happens against Fresno State in week one. And then obviously the big one against Texas but um you know as far as media days go you're not really going to glean too much but like I'm just really fired up and I definitely think Sharon's the right guy I've always thought he was but like every time I hear him speak you know when he's out on the trail like it just has reinforced every single moment that you get a glimpse of him and um I know he's fired up to to you know get his first fall camp underway as the head man and I'm excited to read what reports come out I don't know if it's going to be as tight-lipped as when Harbaugh was here but we're going to find out you know here in about a month and in a few days because we're coming up on the football season like we talked about.

I feel like I just really liked like this media day made it real for me with some of these West Coast teams coming to the big ten so i thought it was kind of fun to listen in to like you know jed fish kind of like come back to the big ten i was like oh man i kind of forgot about that guy he was off my radar for a little bit but there he is right head coach now uh you know usc you get to hear lincoln riley some of that it became real for me um so i'm that actually brought the duck the duck in in the river i mean that's fantastic marketing by oregon to put the biggest duck of all time that's that was hilarious honestly i got right and their social team is just crushing it right yeah yeah that was amazing so

that just kind of got me more excited more juiced and just really made me go like the season's actually around the corner here. So I love that. Yeah, I agree. Well, I mean, there was, you know, Ryan Day has had some quotes as well. So he made his rounds at Media Day. I mean, listen, I know we were obviously Michigan podcast here. The fun thing would be to just be shit on Ryan day. We might get into that a little bit. But like, first of all, going to media day as Ryan day is probably the worst fucking thing in the world right now.

And that, you know, it's, it's where Jim Harbaugh was at going to media day in 2021 of, you know, you haven't beat Ohio state. Right. And so like, now it's like, all right, your rival just beat, just won the national championship. You, you haven't beat him in three years. Everyone's like looking at you like, okay,

you're on the hot seat, blah, blah, blah. So I'll give them a little bit of grace where like they're, everyone's going to spin spin everything every single thing he says into something bad um but tanner i know you you've got the video and the quote if you want to rip yeah i wanted to i wanted to type out the entire quote but essentially it was a soundbite of him talking about losing the game the last three years and kind of the process of of him and his program going back and looking at what went wrong um and i'm not going to be one to put words in his mouth. And I know we do crap on him a lot. But dude, let's be honest, he's a hell of a football coach. And you know, the fact that Michigan has beaten him three years in a row in the way that they have is extremely impressive. And as you know, I think something

that Michigan as a program should be should be applauded for. But essentially, he was talking about making sure they have the right guys in the right seats, the PR the right personnel. Right. And that was basically really just kind of shitting on Kyle McCord, which I know is kind of the easy way out for them. But at the end of the day,

like who recruited him, who evaluated him against other quarterbacks in the 2021 class, including maybe somebody named JJ McCarthy potentially. But the thing that stood out to me was, he said, that was a very good team, but we still should have won the game, and we didn't. My question is, in a game where you led at no point,

why should you have won the game? My second question is, do they ever lose a game because they lost a game? Is there always some sort of reasoning behind things? Is there always some sort of excuse, right? They love to shit on us when we talked about the fourth and one in 2016, which is still to this day a very questionable call.

Whatever side you're on, that's an extremely close call, and it's probably going to go whichever way it's on the field. But they love to crap on Michigan and Michigan fans and Jim Harbaugh for that. So I just wonder – I'm wondering where that energy is when it's we're a couple plays away, one bad half. Like we should have won that game, but you never led. You never led the game. Yeah, you'll never get the P.J. Fleck.

That was just a better team, right? Right. No. And he can't. He said was just a better team right right no right and he can't right it was a good team he said michigan was like he said it was a good team right that was part of the quote but yeah to me it gives off a little bit matt patricia of like you know we've got to be better we've got to do better our you know all right we've got to get our coaches better we've got it's like at some point you just got to do it right you can't go out there and say we've got to be better every single time right just be better yeah you just have to be better like and like obviously you know ohio state is at a whole different level than matt the matt patricia lions

um but which is like i well i mean the thing is i i saw it i you know what what what's the record he's 40 you know against everybody but michigan in the last three years in the big 10 yeah like that is an absurd stat absurd stat if he goes 40 whatever let's say they go what 51 and 0 in in the conference this year except for and they lose to michigan again 51 and 0 against the conference outside of michigan you lose to michigan four times you're fired that that's gonna be the situation in the fall that's insane this could be a really interesting season right like there's a real possibility that they could get a rematch right true three they get three they could get three or two rematches right yeah well yeah yeah so so what happens what happens in the scenario let's say

ohio state wins the game in columbus somehow they get a rematch in either the Big Ten Championship or the college football playoff, and Michigan beats Ohio State then and keeps Ohio State out of the playoff, and their season is over. Does he still get flared? I might ascend to heaven if that. Honestly, you don't want to lose that game under any circumstances, but if you were to tell me that I will give you Ohio State beating Michigan and Columbus, but then I will then give you Michigan ends Ohio State's season

in the college football playoff, I don't know. I had to think about it, but that sounds pretty hilarious because they would talk their shit and it would suck, right? That game, we know how it is to be on the other side all too well we're starting to really know how it's like on this side though yeah one two three so it's it's one of those things that is very interesting about college football in general because you have so many i mean yeah you have texas ou in in um in october? And you have some other big time rivalry games, but you've got the Iron Bowl, Michigan, Ohio State, the game.

You've got a bunch of games that last weekend of the season that are huge, important rivalry games, even if they don't impact the cultural playoff landscape. And typically, Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, Auburn is going to. But I think about UNC, NC State, Nebraska, Iowa, is going to. But, like, I think about, like, UNC, NC State, Nebraska, Iowa. Like, there's a lot of big-time games. And so as these programs, you know, the ebbs and flow of college football, you may be up, you may be down.

So these programs are going to start finding themselves in playoff scenarios. It's just really interesting to see that, like, we're going to potentially have some rematches of big-time rivalries in college football because of the new 12-team playoff. Yeah, that's going to be something I think a lot of people are going to struggle getting used to, myself included. I'm a little bit on the, it feels like, the old man side of the argument of like, no, play Michigan-Ohio State once.

That game is sacred. It's better off when that game means everything. So I think I'm going to struggle with that. If there's a rematch the following week in Indy, like, I don't know, part of me is like going to be like, this is stupid. We just played like that game should mean everything. The other part of me is going to be like, this is stupid. We just played. That game should mean everything. The other part of me is going to be like, holy shit, Indianapolis would be the most insane place of all time if it was just half Michigan and half Ohio State fans. Can you imagine that? Also imagine just beating them twice in a row in the same season.

That would just be like, oh my God. But then if you're on the other side, right, like one team like that's it's gonna be it's gonna be add crazy levels to the rivalry um but justin you know i actually you know there'd be more of them but i don't really have to imagine ohio state fans being in indianapolis because even when they don't go their team doesn't go those people still hold on to their hotel hotels and their tickets you know so they still go down there um and root for whoever michigan's playing so you know i don't have to imagine that, but a Michigan – I know what you're saying, but a Michigan-Ohio State, that would be bonkers. I don't even know if anybody can handle it, any of us.

Also, okay, I'm going to transition then. You're going to give me a good segue there to Quinn Ewers calling Michigan that team up north still. And I don't really care about Quinn saying that, to be honest. I could give two shits about it. What makes me laugh so much is how many Ohio State accounts I saw quote tweet that and be like, oh, I'm rooting for the Longhorns week two, baby.

Let's go. You were already? Like, we know. Shocker. We know that. And like, okay, so now, but let's think about what that means. Your guy, Quinn Ewers, that was in Columbus and could have been the savior last year and this upcoming year,

could have been the answer to beating Michigan, who transferred out and went to Texas, got to the college football playoff last year. When you didn't, you're now like, that's my guy. That's my guy. Well, he does have the chance to be the first signee from the 2021 Ohio State recruiting class to beat Michigan. That was one of the greatest recruiting classes of all time.

So, you know. They're going to have to hang their hat on. Yeah, they can be excited about that. You know, he's got as many gold pants as those guys have. So, you know, he's one of them. It just makes me laugh because I think that, like, that right there is the epitome of what Ohio State fans shit on Michigan fans for a decade previous to 2021, right?

It is having to utilize other people to beat Ohio State. And especially, like, I'd be pissed at Quinn Ewers. Like, I'd be looking at him like, dude, you could have been here winning us a national championship right like that i i don't it's crazy to me that they're that they're like yep i i i'm in i'm in go quinn go quinn but hey it is what it is yeah i mean you know i think with quinn ewers like the reason he went to ohio state over texas in the first the first place is because Texas was really kind of a dumpster fire at that point under Tom Herman. They did not have a good 2020.

The defense was a mess. And so with Steve Sarkeesian coming in, it made a lot of sense for him to transfer. But I'm with you. Like that's – I don't know. Like it's just weird. I don't know. Especially for a guy that didn't really do much, you know, because I'm trying to think of like a parallel for Michigan of like who would be somebody like in that, I guess like Xavier Worthy.

I don't know. Like he didn't even, he wasn't even around campus, you know? So like, I don't really know. I mean, obviously you have guys like AJ Henning who left on great terms. I rooted for Eric Hall, you know, the Cade McNamara thing, whatever. There are a lot of people are, you know, split on that. But like, it's weird to me. I'm not saying, listen, i'm not saying that you need to

like especially when it comes to 18 to 22 year olds i'm not saying you need to like shit on and hate for the rest of their lives every kid that transfers out of your program i'm not saying that at all i'm just saying like it's like weird that they're like once again doing the joe burrow dance of like attaching themselves to somebody that transferred out so that that like they can align with those that success like and i never really hear any other fan base doing that i agree you guys hear any other like i it's really ohio state fans i'm sure we pay attention to to Ohio State fans much more than any other fan base out there, but still, I do – like, I don't know. I don't know.

I'm trying to think of other examples of, like, guys that transferred out and then had, like, major success, like Kyler Murray. I don't ever hear Texas A&M fansm fans like talking about him yeah um right i mean it's hard to like now college football is like there's so many transfers so it's hard like there's nobody like standout guys you know like my my first thought was russell wilson that was 12 damn years ago 13 years ago it's like you know um i don't know i've never interacted with a north carolina state fan though so like i don't know you know what do they with a North Carolina State fan, though. So, like, I don't know. What do they do on, like, football Saturdays down there?

I mean, they get after a little bit. I mean, they're supposed to be good this year, I guess. But, yeah, I don't know. It's interesting. And I do think it's, you know, it all comes down to because he used that team up north. You know, they love that. They just, I don't know. They love that.

It's, I don't know. They love that. It's, I don't know. Ohio State, it's not that hard. Like, you know, like I know they got really buttered over the Brady Hoke thing, which is hilarious because, like, they do the same thing. Literally. You know, it's just a nickname. It doesn't matter. I also found out that Ole Miss and Mississippi State,

like they use those terms as well, the team up north, the team down south, or whatever. I guess we're not the only ones that have to deal with that. You learn something new every day. Alright, there was breaking news this week as well. We've got a documentary coming. Get your popcorn. Wait, can I say one thing real quick before we get to it before i forget michigan football posted the photo of sharon mccurry donovan and max down in indianapolis

and colson loveland our beloved tight end commented stallions uh but he spelled it with two l's so he clearly wasn't referencing anything, but it was very funny. I enjoyed it. Also, we got to give a shout out to State and Liberty. All the boys were looking real good at media days. Might do a collab sometime soon. You never know.

There may be something in the works here with your boys at Blue by 92. I might wear one of their blazers for work. Who knows? That's a real possibility for me who knows um but yeah so we've got a netflix doc coming out uh untold stories untold or untold stories whatever it is their sports style like that's their 30 for 30 line that was the the swamp kings that was johnny manziel man titania all that stuff yeah

you knew it was coming right it was only a matter of time there was no way that this wasn't going to happen i heard this in indie last year that somebody met him at a bar and he's like yeah i signed a deal for a documentary like i heard this second hand partying in indie yeah um i i think that i don't know well i my first reaction was they are going to because harbaugh is such a like clickable type of figure and like he draws so much media attention i my first instant reaction was like, oh, my God, they're going to paint Jim Harbaugh in the worst light ever, try to make him the villain, all this stuff. But I had a few people in the know text me after I tweeted that,

and they're like, no, it's supposedly supposed to paint Michigan in a very good light and put the NCAA in a terrible spot. Can he start snitching in this documentary? He just starts saying names. I guarantee he did not come up with this on his own. I feel like that is almost a certainty, that there had to have been some sort of similar type of program doing this same little scheme, and I want to know where it came from.

Well, I think that that is, I don't know if he's dropping names, but I do from what I know, I think that that is kind of the point of it is like it's everywhere. This is what happens in college football at a lot of different places. And for Michigan to be the one that's like been painted as they are the creator and the only person doing this is like insane so um so yeah we'll see how it goes i mean one thing i do think is very funny uh which if i was a non-michigan fan i would be like what the fuck is like how are we getting a documentary before the NCAA has come out with anything

at all? Are they ever going to? I don't know. It's weird. Like there's, I mean, is there going to be a notice of allegations? Are they just going to let it die very loudly? Because people are not going to let this go. And this is also going to be a great reminder for me to remember from last season

because I forgot because I don't know if you guys knew this, but Michigan won a national championship and I kind of got over everything. But there was a lot of people that I hated last fall that I was like – I was done with a lot of Big Ten coaches. Shout out my boy PJ Flett. He never fell into the BS. Kirk Ferentz never really gave a shit. But a lot of whiners in the Big Ten Conference.

You know, player safety. Fuck out of here. There was the podcast, the CFB nerds that, like, were equating Michigan sign stealing to Hennon Hooker getting his ACL torn somehow. Like, just the most delusional people. And, yeah, look, we're biased. Like, even if Michigan did do something wrong, we're going to be like, yeah look we're biased like even if michigan did do something wrong we're

gonna be like nah we're good like obviously like let's be i'll be very honest too if this was ohio state michigan state anybody else like i'm probably leaning into conspiracy theories as well and like going hey i'm more so doing it for like the the the like the rage bait stuff. Yeah, for sure. Which is probably what a lot of other fans, like the normal people are doing. But I also like, do people realize that it's not Madden? You can't just like from the sidelines call like 17 different hot routes and like audibles for your safeties and your linebackers. Like I don't think they know that. Nobody gets that part for sure.

I think that everyone's like, well, you knew their play. And it's like, well no first of all no second of all like you still have to play the game like that that's part of it so honestly i love how much he's like leaning into it because i feel like he's just gonna be like smiling in front of the camera like what else i was doing like yeah he's just gonna be just don't get us in trouble and i'll i'll love it you know i also want to see like like you ever see those crime docs where they like go to somebody in a dark room and they have like a voice change around i want to see like the other sign stealers like a hundred percent like there has to be some like the new characters that are

going to come out of this documentary is, I hope is going to be incredible. There's, there are going to be some like fake people or something like that. Like, are you in it? I am not in it. Thank God. I am not in it.

I'm pretty sure Portnoy is in it. I think he tweeted about it. So you got to think like, if they've got like Michigan, like, you know, people like Dave Portnoy and like other Michigan centric folks that it's probably going to be a softball and that's the thing too when we talked about the Untold series

from Netflix if you watched the Swamp Kings documentary Urban Meyer was just like yeah like dude we won a shit ton of football games and it was sick like that was basically the entire podcast or the documentary. The title stayed true. Everything was still untold. There was nothing that was told. Johnny Manziel, they're like, hey, look at this like sick play against Alabama. And then like they were like, yeah, Johnny Manziel had a drinking problem. It was like, okay.

I will say the Manti Teo one got like I feel like there was more things that I learned. But again, it was like so it's always sympathetic to like the main figure otherwise you're not getting them if you were to if you wanted to do a university of florida football documentary from 06 to 2010 you would not be able to get access to all those guys right if you were going to do it truthfully what happened behind the scenes all the arrests all the off the field issues so this feels like something you can't get them all for sure yeah no at least one of them yeah yeah no you can't get him um but like yeah it's like that was good i like that dark humor is the best humor in my opinion um sometimes not on a podcast but

that's okay uh i was just i mean i was just stating a fact i don't like i don't know i was yeah like i watched the i watched the um unrelated but i watched the oj simpson 30 for 30 like they didn't interview oj you know right like so they told the whole story aliens i think i think he's gonna fall on the sword if there were ever like sword. If it gets to any point, there's 0% chance that this guy, knowing everything we know about him, the manifesto, the fandom, everything, there's 0% chance he's outing Jim Harbaugh or outing anybody in this. He's not saying the victors like that and then trashing the program. He's going to deny everything until he dies,

and then he's going to try to – whatever he's going to do is going to have Michigan looking good. And I think what's going to happen, Michigan State and Ohio State fans are going to freak out even worse. It's going to be, they're going to have the biggest temper tantrum more than they already have in the past. And listen, again, I don't really blame them because I think I would be freaking out too if I was them. If it was just like this elaborate thing came out. They won the natty. The NCAA hasn't done anything.

There's a documentary that comes out, and it's just like, ha-ha, they were doing some stuff. All right. Go Blue. I really hope Harbaugh is on it because now he's not part of the program anymore. What if he just came out and said it, right? Can we, real quick i touched on this earlier talking about los angeles media can we talk about the fact that they just don't know jim harbaugh like did i don't think they did any research to him coming to los angeles

because i saw a tweet from some i don't know if he's a beat writer i didn't look at what publication he was with but he's like yes jim Harbaugh does wear cleats to football practice. So I was like, brother, where the fuck have you been for the last 20 years? There are pictures of him sleeping with cleats on. There are also Jordan 12s, which I love. You know, he's keeping the Jordan relationship. But then I also real quick on Jim Harbaugh, man, because he's like people also like reacted to this one.

And he's pretty much said this exact quote, like at like the opening presser or even Big Ten media days. He said on the first day of training camp, his exact quote, it feels like being born. It feels like coming out of a womb. It's comfortable. And then poof, you're born. The lights are on.

People are looking at you. I love it. And they were shocked. I can't imagine like LA, just like the LA news reporters that are like not sports reporters or something, them trying to like figure out Jim Harbaugh. There should be a like, kind of like you have a focus on Jim,

but then you also have like people following the media people around too, where it just gets them like they get done with a jim harbaugh press conference and they all like kind of look around at each other they're like what the fuck was that like what did he just say that should be the documentary yes it should it should everyone like trying to like figure out what jim harugh is saying, because I think like the LA vibe is so far from what Jim Harbaugh stands for on the spectrum of life. Like he, I'm trying to get like, we should have a good reality TV show would be like, you put Jim Harbaugh in a room with like anybody from like love Island or any of these reality TV shows.

And he just has to converse with them. He just has to try to strike up conversations. And then they're like, who the fuck is this guy? Are there any Jim Harbaugh impersonators? Like there's Elvis impersonators. Is there any Jim Harbaugh ones? I think Frank Caliendo did Harbaugh, but it was when he was with the 49ers and it was basically just him very flamboyantly

doing Jim being mad at officials and calling for a hold. Molinaro does a good one too. Joey Molinaro. Yeah, he does. Some of his stuff is kind of corny but he's also got some really funny stuff. His hardball is pretty good.

I like his Saban's really good. His Saban's really good. His Saban's really good. I don't know if you guys remember that video of one of their players at Alabama. This was probably 10 plus years ago, but he did a Saban and it was so good and did it in the locker room when Saban wasn't there,

but ESPN caught it on camera. It was very, very good. I feel like Saban's one of those guys that's just very impersonatable. I don't know if that's a word, impersonable. I don't know. I'm making up words on the spot here. Yeah, no, that's fine. Yeah, we should definitely just have a Jim Harbaugh impersonator just roaming the big house every Saturday, even if it's not a game. I want him in cleats. I want to hear click clack on the sidewalk. If he can't get through the gate. I need a Jim Harbaugh

impersonator literally every Saturday. I love it. If you're a Jim Harbaugh impersonator, send us an email. Please. Let's connect. Please. Blueby90 at gmail.com. Add me on LinkedIn, whatever. Whatever works.

Speaking of at the big house, I believe it's this is it this weekend barbecue i want to say saturday sunday yeah saturday sunday uh barbecue at the big house so we got some recruiting the list that i received today was about three pages long of how many guys are and recruits are going to be there um so it feels like in chiron's first go at this thing uh he's going all out so uh i think that this is you know the chiron more recruiting era it definitely the page has been flipped you feel like in the past month finally like it's felt like all right they've gotten the ball rolling. Things are going here.

I fully expect this barbecue to be, like, a big deal. I feel like we're going to get a lot of recruits coming. There's going to be a lot of buzz coming out of it. So, Tanner, do you want to talk about anybody that's coming in specific? I mean, we talked last week about Andrew Marsh, Jerome Miles, Jaden Sanders. So Jaden Sanders is a corner out of Texas. I think Michigan has a – I wouldn't say substantial, but I think they're out in front of some of the home state schools.

Andrew Marsh is a big-time receiver. I believe he's in the top 70 of the 247 top 100. So he's a big-time receiver out of Texas. And then Jerome Miles is an Ole Miss decommit. I think he decommitted back either – I think it was June. But he's from Utah. He actually just picked up an Ohio State offer, which definitely – so, like, he's a five-star, right? But it also feels like why now, Brian Day, you and Brian Hartline,

you son of a guns. Because they'll do that. Like, you can go and look at guys that they've taken just so they don't go to Michigan. Like you can go. There's so many guys and they don't end up doing anything. Now he's a receiver, so it's different in that program because they pump out receivers like it's nothing.

But our receiving recruiting has been pretty good lately. I think that Kirk Campbell pitch is landing pretty dang well. Yeah, and Ron Bellamy, I mean, if he had a passing game that was just average, what could he do on the trail? He's from Louisiana. He went in and got a couple guys out of the state of Louisiana. Now, I believe Phillip Wright, I've read, is going to be attending something for LSU this weekend,

but he's also still coming to Ann Arbor. So hopefully Michigan's able to kind of, you know, it's LSU. And I mean, they have however many first round picks at receiver. Just had a guy win the Heisman. So it's like, that's a tough recruiting battle. He's committed to Michigan. I don't know what that's going to look like, but Michigan's in on a lot of guys, just a ton of 2026 kids.

A lot of big time guys. One guy I'm really excited about out of Cass Tech, CJ Sadler, top 50 player in the country Receiver, like Michigan kid, right? Cast Tech, Detroit Michigan kid, through and through Yeah, so

There's so many guys on the list There's a lot of commits, so a lot of recruiting will be going on Not just from the coaches, but from the guys in the 2025 class And Michigan's lone 2026 commit uh brady hart big time quarterback is going to be in attendance as well so working on the 2026 guys so um yeah i mean can i ask like for philip right i'm not trying to talk poor on the kid i promise you this but i don't i just don't understand like the committing and then just continuing to go on, on visits.

Here's what I would say to that. It's because if I had to guess it's, Hey, LSU is coming in late because I'm about to commit to Michigan. I'm still going to commit to Michigan because I'm not losing my spot at Michigan. But if you really want me and you're going to recruit me, like you actually want me and need me versus like slow playing me, then're going to have to earn it um but also i mean it's it's really tough to

fault a kid from louisiana you know wanting to go to lsu i get that no i wish michigan had a border around its state like some of these schools do like ohio state does for the most part i mean they've had some guys kind of fall through the cracks louisiana um but then you look at like georgia they don't like georgia is the most talented talent rich state and like uga doesn't even really get those guys and they still pull in top three classes i don't know um but yeah it's going to be a big weekend we'll probably recap it more as we get closer and start to preview the season kind of transition from like recruiting talk because like i follow it but like i don't know if you guys can tell like that's not really what we're truly passionate about. You know, it's fun.

It gets you fired up of, like, getting into the season, into fall camp. Like, that's when the juices start flowing. You start getting ready. You start, you know, you get that crisp air in the morning before it gets to, like, 85 degrees and you're dying. But you get that small dopamine hit of, like, oh, shit, football's right around the corner. You got the cicadas coming.

You can hear them at night. Like, when that, you know, it's still a little humid, but it's, like, 70 degrees at night. Like, that's when you start to kind of know football's right around the corner. You've got the cicadas coming. You can hear them at night. It's still a little humid, but it's like 70 degrees at night. That's when you start to kind of know football is right around the corner. I'm starting to sound like Jim Harbaugh. He probably talks a lot. He's like, something about the cicadas. I'm telling you, man.

The seasons. I'm not even bullshitting you. You've been in the show all summer. I would turn that into like, yeah, I usually read like the Farmer's Almanac and I know exactly like this, you know, this is the moment when it's football season. Did you hear what Kalen said? That was incredible.

That was a Jim Horvath. He said, Kalen, go ahead. I'm talking about cicadas. What did you say? Cicadas. You're in your shell all summer, right? Then you break out right at the end. Just ready to – you got your pads on already.

You're ready to go. That's not in his next press conference. I don't know what will be. Are we his ghostwriters now? We've got to send that to him somehow. Forget the impersonator. I want to see the scraps from Jim Harbaugh's ghostwriters.

What didn't make it into it that's what we say he had a whole like you know like soliloquy on like or monologue on like birth and they're like jim like you can't you can't talk about like cutting the umbilical cord and you know like you can't talk about some of these things. You had to cut it all. Oh, man. To be a fly on the wall there just in any room that Jim Harbaugh has ever been in. Last thing I want to add because I know we're getting up at the time, and I'm a dad, so I got to do stuff. Did you guys catch the video where Jim Harbaugh talked about not being born on third base with the Chargers?

Okay. That video. Yes, we need to talk about that video i totally forgot about it but like that what it was like 100 scripted so like it wasn't even him just like spouting this off as a press conference it was like scripted and like the opening statement it's like their mission. And it's a complete dig at Ryan Day. He is running the biggest victory lap of all time around

Columbus. I've never seen anything like it. I haven't seen this, so I gotta watch this. This is hilarious. Yeah, you do need to watch it. And also, I love that Joey Bosa is like, yeah, he's a cool dude. That's got a sting in Columbus. Joey Bosa is like yeah he's a cool dude that's got a sting in columbus like joey bosa's like yeah like yeah he's actually pretty cool you know joey bosa too

like really probably doesn't give a shit about ohio state that much because he's like yeah just like hang out with chicks and crush beer and like sack the quarterback that's me um well then that's like all right yeah that's like yeah right that was nick oh yeah um but well i think i do think wait who's the bigger frat boy of the bosses i know they're both pretty fratty but i feel like nick might be i think fratty here yeah i think nick also listening like i think joe jo Joey's a lot more eloquent. But listening to Nick Bosa speak is just – I don't know, man. It's interesting. Hell of a football player. It doesn't feel like there's much going on up there other than sack quarterback.

Yeah. He's like Gronk, and that's not a bad thing. He's made over $100 million in his career already, and he's like our age. Oh, he's – He's younger, actually. He's his career already and he's like our age so oh he's not he's younger actually he's younger than me so like i'm not talking way more than we ever talking shit here uh guys a helpful player but listening to a talk is is it is quite the experience um but people might say that about me too so you know why why be judgmental you know um yeah no no you can get after the quarterback. That's all that matters. I was trying to go through their Twitter to find this video. But, yeah, it was like – well, it had a lot of –

just a lot of Harbaugh-isms. But the fact that they, like, put that – the born on third base in their, like, literal mission statement of the Chargers this year is incredible. Yeah. Got to get around there and get to home. So, all right,

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