Blue By Ninety - Stadium & Main | Michigan Alum and NFL Vet Chris Wormley and Jordan Strack

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

A brand new show presented by Blue By Ninety featuring former Michigan defensive lineman and sports journalist Jordan Strack.

All right, welcome in to the first time, Stadium and Maine, the podcast with Big Worm and Strack. I'm Jordan Strach. That's Chris Wormley on the other side of the screen. Captain at Michigan, first team all big 10 in 2016, eight-year NFL vet. Worm, you're still hanging on to the dream. If somebody wants to call, you're going to ditch this whole podcast thing we're doing and go back and play, right? No, I mean, as like I told you before, as long as someone's trying to pay me and to play football, I'm all about it. but this is something that I'm looking forward to with you.

We've been talking about it for a few years. And the beautiful thing about living in 2025 is there's cameras, there's microphones, there's internet, that we can do this wherever we want. I love it. You and I have known each other for a long time. I covered you, obviously, while you were at Whitmer, and we have known each other for a very long time now.

And yeah, we've been discussing this. We've wanted to sit and talk football. We both love Michigan. We both have wanted to do this for a long time. And now the time is finally right. And you and I are going to just come on here every week and chop it up a little bit, probably talk a little shit once in a while. And I think it's going to be good.

Yeah, I think we're going to come with some fun, obviously informative things about Michigan football. But we're going to have our own spin on it. We're going to, you know, like you said, talk a little shit, have some fun and give some viewers a different perspective on Michigan football. And I think the interesting thing with you and I is that, We are both Ohio guys. We both still live in Ohio, and we both still love Michigan.

So we're smack dab in the middle of the rivalry. We've got Ohio State friends. So we understand the chirping on both sides, and I think we will bring some unique perspective from that angle, right? I think the Toledo War is still going on almost 200-plus years later, whenever that war was back in the day. But, yeah, Ohio State and Michigan, the blood runs thick, the blood runs deep when it comes with that rivalry in Toledo and the surrounding areas.

And for me, for 31 years, I've had an upfront, close and personal view and approach to that rivalry. And it's, it's fun. It's always fun to talk about that. And like I said, talk a little shit. Were you recruited by Ohio State? I was. I mean, if you remember, you know, guys like Kenny Hayek in the day, Whitmer, him, his brother, Nigel Hayes,

we'd go on recruiting trips together. I remember going to USC, when USC would come to the horseshoe, we went to a recruiting trip, did the whole recruiting visit, got on the field, took pictures. And to pass, I was a big fan of Jim Tressel and what he was doing down there. And I think my decision would have been a lot harder if he would have stuck around when I was finally going to commit to somewhere. But you ultimately made the right decision.

You did the right thing. It went to the spot that you were supposed to. go to, right? Of course. Yeah, I mean, I love the school. It's been more than I could have ever asked for, for obviously a football program, the friends that I've made, the relationships, obviously got to live my dream. I was a Michigan fan growing up, so I had to live my dream of playing in the big house and continue on being a fan, and I call it home now. So this place is special. All right, let's get into it. Everybody wants to talk about week one, and then we'll get

into breaking down the Oklahoma game a little bit as well. Obviously, a season opening win over New Mexico, 3417. It was the first win of the Bryce Underwood era. We will touch on that. As you see on the screen, we're going to talk about the J. Sean Barham targeting call. That was a very hot topic on the Twitters. So we'll do that. I've seen a lot of people freaking out about the defense. I don't personally get it. We'll get into that a little bit. As this podcast goes on throughout the season. We're going to bring in some cool guests. We're excited for that. But today, it's just you and I, worm. So let's get to our first thing, the big thing, Bryce Underwood, 21 of 31, 21, 251 yards, a touchdown. What was your first

impression? What did you think of the way he played? I mean, you look at him in pads and he looks like a defensive lineman or an outside linebacker, but he's a quarterback. And I think, obviously, it's a small sample size when it comes to the games he's played in college. It's just been one, but I think he's living up to the hype, and you don't want to put all that pressure on a kid, but when he is, I wouldn't say the savior of Michigan football, but he's, he was brought in and paid a hefty chunk of change in NIL to come and be the quarterback for the next three to four years at Michigan. He looked apart. I thought he made, made great decisions as a quarterback, and anytime you can get a win, especially your first win as a college football player,

that's huge. All right. I want to talk about a couple different. little things throughout the game. I think the first thing that everybody kind of saw was they trust him, clearly. There was a running the two-minute drill. There was the third and long, and they let him make a throw. That was something we just did not see last year, whether it was Alex Orgy or Davis Warren or Jack Tuttle, whoever it was, in that situation, third down and long just before the half, Michigan was running the football and they were trying to punt and get to the

half. That was completely different. That was something we did not see at all a year ago. They clearly trust this kid. And I know it's going to become a drinking game. This kid just turned 18 years old. That's going to be like a thing during every single game. Like I get it.

But the kid just turned 18 and they're trusting him to make throws. They did not trust much older guys to make a year ago. You got to think, too, he has been at Michigan and been on campus since the beginning of the year. It's been 10 plus or maybe nine months now that he's been on campus. He got to go through the bowl prep practices, obviously didn't get to play in the bowl game, which maybe we would have, I mean, obviously we won the game in the ReliQuest Bowl, but it would have been fun to see him, just go out there and have some fun.

But he's been there for nine months. He knows the system with Coach Lindsay and what Coach Moore trying to accomplish. Obviously, he's a talented kid. Obviously, he's a smart kid. But to see him lead a two-minute drive as just an 18-year-old, he just turned 18 is really impressive. because like you said, even last year, there were many, many times where that just wasn't happened. It just, it was, let's run the ball. Let's get to halftime. Let's make these adjustments and try and win in the second half.

But he's been in the system now with, even though it's only been one game, he's been on campus for nine months and has had that preparation on top of already being a stellar athlete, a smart kid. So all those tools combined, you know, he's off to the races for sure. So there was a play in the game where, I was like, oh, man, let's go. That was awesome. Don't ever do it again.

The block that he laid on the, the, the, uh, Haynes run, I get it. Like everybody's all fired up. Like, look at this kid. And like, listen, if this kid goes down, Michigan is in big time trouble. I understand he's a competitor and all those things. What did you think of, uh, him laying on that, that block?

And, and what does that do as a, uh, as a teammate to see your quarterback do that? I loved it. I mean, especially as maybe an offense alignment on the team that that's their job is to hit people and use their head and use their hands to ward off defenders. You love to see your quarterback not only make good decisions with his arm and his legs and get the ball on the field, but to maybe lay out his body a little bit. Obviously, you don't want him to do that every play. You don't want him taking on big hits, you know, every play. But for him to make maybe calculated or smart decisions when it comes to maybe put your hands out a little bit,

and you shield him a little bit, not give him a shoulder, especially if it was his throwing shoulder. I'm sure that was a topic of conversation in the film room this past week. But as an offensive player or even as a defender on the sidelines, watching it, and you see that block, you're like, okay, this guy is not just about himself in the stats. He wants to contribute as much as possible, whether that's with his arm, his legs, or making a block for a big game.

So I've watched over the last couple days the national attention that he's starting to gain. Like Dan Orlovsky did a long film breakdown. Aaron Murray did a film breakdown. Todd McShay has done a film breakdown. The film guy did a breakdown. These guys are all seeing what I think Michigan fans watched on Saturday and are like, holy cow, like we haven't seen this in a little bit.

There's some throws that he made, some of the ones that just stand out, I think, that everybody's kind of seen. The touch throw to Marlon Klein from down near his own goal line, layering that throw, I thought, was unbelievable. The third and long, as I mentioned, just before the half. There was also one in the second, beginning of the second half. He steps up in the pocket, avoids pressure, and is able to find a man downfield. Was there a throw that impressed you the most?

I mean, definitely that one, to climb for the touchdown just because of the touch and accuracy. You saw throughout the game that he could get the ball off quick. He has a crazy arm, speed. velocity, whatever you want to call it in terms of quarterback arm strength. But when you can complement that with a little bit of touch and finesse and putting the ball only where your player can get it, and obviously with the touchdown, it helps as well. But I think that was a really impressive one. I think there was one in the two-minute drill where it might have been third and long.

There was a third and long where he rifled it right down the middle of the field. And that's another thing that you said about Coach Moore and Coach Lindsay trusting him to make those throws because obviously with j j mccarthy two years ago we saw a lot of that we saw a lot of big plays and in him being able to kind of improvise and make those plays but you know football football fans and in the football where there's a lot of amnesia and you forget what that looks like especially from what we had last year to this year it's it's almost night and day and it's was only four quarters of football yeah so and i think i i i've seen a lot of people say oh well he he's got to run against Oklahoma. You know, he didn't even run the football. Listen, this is a kid that is going to stay in the

pocket and throw the football. I mean, he is a pocket passer. He's going to be able to add a little bit with his legs when things break down. But if you're expecting, you know, a ton of him running, I think you're going to be disappointed. He doesn't need that, though. I think you're going to see against Oklahoma, though, I would assume, is in those situations where things are breaking down, he's going to start getting more comfortable and being able to take off a little bit. And there was a third and 10 where he takes a second and 10 where he takes a sack. If he can run and get that into third manageable, get down, whatever, those are the plays that I'm looking forward to watching as he progresses.

Right now, yes, there's a lot of, I know where this ball needs to go and it's getting there. I'm excited to see the next step for him. I know it's one game and I get it. But there's, along the line, this is going to get really good with this kid. Yeah, I think there's a few. factors that are being involved. One, he didn't need to run the ball. He didn't need to pull it on those QB reads because there were times where I'm looking, I'm watching my base and I'm like, take it and run. You can get, you know, five, six, seven yard before anyone even is touching you.

But also it's like, does he need to do that? It's New Mexico. They were expected to win. They were already, they had the lead from the, from the jump. So he didn't have to pull the ball. I think when you look at the quarterbacks in the NFL and kind of how I've been the last seven, eight years of my life and career, the guys like, even Lamar Jackson now, obviously he's supposed to be a running quarterback, but he stands in the pocket and there's two or three, four, five times a game where he has to use his legs. Mahomes is a in-the-pocket guy, gets out of the pocket a little bit and makes those spectacular plays that you see on ESPN the next day. Josh Allen, on the same thing. These guys are looking to get the ball

down the field, push the ball downfield before they're going to run. And I think if, and Bryce seems to be that's been kind of embedded in his head already from the coaches is, hey, pass first, you're a quarterback, and if things start to break down, you have the ability to use your legs because you look like I said, like an outside linebacker playing quarterback. You're gifted with a lot of ability. But like I said, yeah, like you said, I wouldn't expect him to be running the ball 20 times a game, even though I'd like to see him pull it and keep it a few times a game and kind of make those wild splash plays that we all know he's going to be able to make.

for sure. As a guy who is just out of the league or kind of still in the league, which quarterbacks did you hate having to try to play against the most? Who are the toughest guys to defend? I mean, the total opposite from these kind of new age quarterbacks now is Tom Brady just because he was the best at getting the ball out. He was the best at not taking sacks and putting his team in second and long, third and long. He understood the rotations and and where the pressures were coming and was able to communicate with the O-line, how to block everything up. The best game I ever had in my career was against Lamar Jackson,

which I have two and a half sacks, which seems crazy because he's the type of guy that is 100 million times faster than I am, and more athletically gifted. But earlier in his career, he was the type of guy that wanted to extend the plays and make those wild splash plays. And as he's gotten older, he's, like I said, he's passed. first. He's not trying to make those big mistakes. But Mahomes, Mahomes is another one of those guys that gets the ball out quick and only makes

those kind of wild plays when he has to and gets out of the pocket and is making those throws from, you know, parallel to the ground. But definitely Brady and Mahomes, I think, are the two guys that I look at when I've played more than once that are paining the ass to tackle, to sack. I'm a Bills fan. So anytime you bring up Patrick Mahomes, I'm just like my eye kind of at Twitches. I just, I don't like that. I haven't beaten Patrick McHones yet. We lost in the playoffs when I was in Pittsburgh to them, lost a couple times when I was in Baltimore. So he's definitely been enemy number one. And rightfully so, he's, you know, three Super Bowls, went to three

in a row, all those things that, that you love to hate. All right, that's enough time about Patrick Mahomes. I'm moving on. All right, let's talk more. Let's talk about the rest of this game. Haynes I thought was really good. It comes over from Alabama. It is pretty clear that he kind of fits this system perfectly. 16 carries, 159 yards, three touchdowns. He averaged almost 10 yards a carry. What was most impressive in your mind about what he did? I think he was really patient. He was letting those blocks set up. There was a couple times with Max Bredeson, the fullback kind of comes across the line of scrimmage across the offensive line and makes a block and Haynes was pretty patient with him hitting the holes.

I think it's always interesting when you have a transfer come in. Obviously, he's got a good pedigree with his dad being in the NFL for a while. I got a Super Bowl with the Steelers. He goes to Alabama. But anytime you have a transfer coming, he's like, okay, he looks good on paper. We think he's going to fit our scheme. But is he actually going to? And, you know, over the last six, seven, eight years,

Michigan's had some pretty solid running backs. Obviously, his last three or four have been pretty stiff. seller. And when you look at that, it's exciting to see what he's been able to do and the bond and the chemistry that the offensive line and him are going to have moving forward because that's a big part of it as well. And I think the other thing that can't be lost is Jordan Marshall still has to play a big role on this team. I know it wasn't great in game one. I don't think that's going to be a trend. Michigan needs Jordan Marshall to be good. for them to have success they're going to have to have more than one guy that can do this at a time

absolutely i mean you saw the last you know you got quorum and diamond edwards last year was edwards and mullings before that it was you know quorum and haskins maybe i forget but haskins you know was a great running back even back in my day with davion smith and drake johnson and you have tie isa those are you know three guys that have been out of the out of the game of football for a while but you think of these kind of two, three-back, one, two punches that Michigan has had over the last several years. I think Jordan Marshall is going to continue to grow. Obviously, he had a great bowl game.

But he's still a young player. He's still trying to figure things out. This was, you know, maybe his first real night game getting carries. So all those things play a factor. I still am expecting him to have a solid season. But obviously, the clear number one back is Haynes, no doubt. Yeah, for sure. So you lose a guy like Colson Loveland to the NFL, and I think I'm still excited to see what Hogan Hanson is going to bring.

He's banged up, not sure if he'll play this week or not. But Marlon Klein, I thought was outstanding. And in this system, it clearly looks at like Bryce has a good connection with him early. I thought he looked every bit the part of the next great Michigan tight end. watching the game i was writing some notes down i'm like michigan's found their next tight end when you look back to my time playing we had uh devon funches and then after that it was jake butt too tall american then after that it was you know a few years later it was schoonmaker who's now with the with the cowboys and then uh the next year like next two years it was it was

colston lovelin and now it's like okay who's stepping up this kid this kid marlin clime comes up And obviously one sample size, but last year he was more of a blocking kind of take-up space receiver now, the tight-end. And now he's tied-in number one and looks primed to continue that great legacy of Michigan tight ends. All right. Let's talk about the targeting call. I have been catching heat on Twitter for five days now about this. I called it out immediately, and I hated it. I just, I hated every single thing about it.

I don't know what J. Sean Barham is supposed to do. He's 6.3. He's 243 pounds. He literally wraps the guy up and tackles him and does everything you're supposed to do. As a defensive player yourself, a guy who has hit the quarterback plenty of times in his life, what the hell is he supposed to do? I'm still kind of scratching my head as to what he should have done or was supposed to do because if I'm a coach, if I have sons and I'm teaching them a game of football and their defenders, that's the type of tackle I want to make.

That's what I would teach, head up, off to the side, wrap up, fall to the ground, and make the play. If he goes too low, it's a flag. If he goes too high, it's a flag. And it's like, especially now when they have the replay and they're able to go back and replay the play and look at it, how do you not overturn that call? I get it still a 15-yard penalty, whatever, but to take a young man out of the game for another half because of a subjective call,

and let's call what it is, it's subjective. There's a guy up there looking at the play saying, you know, thumbs up, thumbs down, and dependent. And then you talk about the appeal that happened. I heard there were some things going on with, you know, the Big Ten said, you know, he's good to go, the NCAAs, you know. drop the hammer, as we like to say nowadays, especially in the Michigan world. It's like, come on, man.

And I think any chance that the NCAA has to knock Michigan down, I think they're going to do that. Or, you know, just over the things that have happened over the last few years. But to take a player out, especially like Barham, who's expected to be one of the best players on the defensive side of the ball this year, I think it's a disservice to not just Michigan and the team, but to all the other teams. teams out there that are looking at, okay, how are we going to, how do we tackle properly without getting either out for the rest of the game or out for the first half of the next game? It's, it's like, like the screen says, Barham bullshit. I don't get it. I'll be honest with you. Like, I am the number one, I have been vocal for years, a huge proponent of player safety. I think, I, I totally agree with making sure that

that dirty hits are not in the game, that guys are being. and safe, protecting head injuries. I have been as big of a proponent and supporter of it as anybody on Twitter. You can check the history. I promise you the receipts are there. There's nothing malicious about what he did. I don't know how we fix this. If they're not going to, or if they're going to suspend guys for a hit like that and

take away, you basically take away a full game from this kid of what will probably be his last year of college football. I don't know what else like what how we fix it what would you do going forward what what can you do from a targeting rules perspective to make this not as vicious of a penalty as it is yeah I mean we we've dealt with that in the NFL for the last four or five years too with some of these roughing the passer calls are outrageous like brutal what are they tell like what how do the coaches coach that up and there's times we come to the side line the coach is just like my D-line coach just puts his hands up and it's like,

I don't know what to tell you. And these guys, you know, are usually NFL players themselves, former NFL players, and they are scratching their heads. Or we'll watch it the next day. John Harbaugh is big in that and watching, reviewing the penalties from the week before. And sometimes you put it up and you're like, I don't know what to tell you because that's what I would,

that's what every other coach would coach. I think going back to college football, is you have to take away the suspensions. You have to take away the suspensions. You can't penalize a kid, especially in a game of football that it's a violent sport. But let's call it what it is. You wear helmets, you wear shoulder pads. But you're not going to take all risk away unless you want to play patty cake flag football.

And nobody's going to watch that. Nobody's going to watch it. So when you take that away from a kid, obviously it sucks, especially when you only have 12 games. but also you got to you got to take it away maybe it's a I'm obviously the penalty the penalty is a 15 yards but I don't know in the NFL they just find your 30 grand and call the day and each in each time it either doubles or goes up you know by by 50 percent so you can't do that in college but it suspension and getting kicked out of a game is is totally uncalled for yeah hated it hated it uh Cole Sullivan will now have to try to hold down the fort in the first half who and I thought

he was really good the other day. I think he's a future star, but missing Jaysham Barham is going to be tough at Oklahoma. That's just how it is. All right, let's move on. Was the defense disappointing? So I saw some people complaining about the Michigan defense. And I, the thing that I put out there,

they allowed two touchdowns. One was a fourth-play trick play, fourth down-trick play, which was, it was a sweet play. It was awesome. And you think about it, the way that ball bounces on the turf, if it bounces one way or the other, they're in trouble. For sure. Another touchdown they allowed after the targeting call and after they did not review the play on the sideline that should have been reviewed and it would have gotten them off the field. Those are the two touchdowns.

They also allowed three points off of a freshman fumbling the football on a kickoff and on a short field. And the defense, I thought, did a really good job holding them to three points. I don't know how much more you want from the defense. They were not bad by any means. I thought you're facing a New Mexico team with a ton of new guys. You had no idea what you were going to get. You're also rotating in a bunch of guys on the Michigan side that hadn't played a ton of football.

And you're seeing what you have. I thought the defense was fine and I think it's going to be fine in the long term. I thought Wink Martindale had put the doubters to rest at the end of last year. I was a critic at the beginning of last year. I didn't think it was great. Come on. Listen, I'm sorry.

I was. At the beginning of last year, I thought it was rough. He figured it out. And listen, he was outstanding at the end of last year. I completely said, I threw my hands up.

I said, listen, I was wrong. I screwed up. I'm sorry. Wink. You figured he has now earned that in my mind. The ability to have a game like that where you're figuring things out. 100%. I think you hit it right on the head. I'm a little biased. Wink was my defensive coordinator for two years on my NFL career. So I've seen up close and personal what he can do when he knows the type of personality he has. And coming into last year, it took him a little bit to figure it out to put the players in the right position. But he in my NFL career and even my college career too, he's the best at putting players in positions to succeed. And we saw that last year.

So even last year, when you think about it, there were some guys hurt. Will Johnson was hurt most of the year last year. That could have aided in some of the troubles that the defensive had. But the last month of football for them was stellar. Now, obviously, you want that to kind of translate a little faster this year. Year two in the system. I mean, they've had Jesse Minter.

They had Mike McDonald before that, all kind of in that same Ravens' defense philosophy scheme. But this year, with Wink under the helm again, year to him putting those players, especially because there aren't a ton of stars. I guess, I mean, there are some stars, Derek Moore, Barham, all those guys. But when you talk about the guys they had last year in Grant and Mason Graham and Will Johnson on the outside, it's easy just, hey, put them there, go out and ball and let the cards lay. Your talent and your ability is going to, you know, beat guys most of time. But these guys that are coming in now, it's a little bit more unknown.

So I think Wink is going to be a little more creative. And I think throughout the season, we're going to see that. He's one of the best of the best, the best I've been around in terms of defense. And like I said, putting players in the right spot. So you as a hater last year kind of converting, I think more people are going to continue to ease their tones a little bit because he's, for me, he's the best. So I'm excited to see him moving forward. It's going to be going. Dog is just going absolutely insane right now. What's going on a follow over there?

my dog he hangs out like on a couch by the front window and he protects the neighborhood here and so listen listen i know i know i know the suburb of toleda that you live in there's there's no danger there's there's there's nothing going on there come on man listen he he he's always protecting the neighborhood that's just what he does okay he uh yeah he likes to um he likes to make sure that everybody's in order and uh so he was doing that just now uh you'll get that once in a while if we're going to tape it this time. Also, so going back to the defense, they allowed 1.8 yards per carry last week.

We're talking three and a half yards of play. And modern college football, that's good. That's good stuff. That's, you know, like, I don't know what more you want, but that's pretty darn good in my mind. As a season goes on, they're going to be asked to step up

and make the big plays and third long. intercept the ball in the red zone. They're going to be asked to make those plays. But let me tell you, if our offense can continue to put up things like that and can sustain drives like that, that was another thing last year, especially early on in the season, the defense was out there 10, 12, plays in a row, and then back out there in the three and out.

And it's like, as a defender, that pisses you off. You are mad. You were like, I just got off. And as a defense alignment, I can rotate. But as the corners and the safeties and the linebackers, those guys are usually in, 80 plays in a row. And if you get a 30-second in real game time break, especially if it's three incomplete passes from your team's offense,

that's bad ball. And it wasn't just the defense in Wink trying to figure things out last year. I'm glad you kind of said that because it was a lot of the offense not being able to sustain drives, even five, six plays and then punt them down into their own, into their own territory deep in their own territory is better than three and out on our 10 or whatever and they get the ball at the 40 yard line it's it's a team game offense defense special teams complimentary football complimentary football if Michigan can play that this year with the schedule that they have i think you know not want to get too far out of ourselves but playoffs for sure you know

especially with the 12 team playoffs this year it's that that should be their goal no matter what obviously there's a lot to play for and a lot of games left, but complimentary football nowadays gets you into the playoffs, and I'm excited for that. All right. Let's look at the Oklahoma game. 7.30 kick on ABC in Norman, Michigan, a five and a half point underdog right now. I look at this as one of the very few games on this schedule that is going to determine how this season goes.

Um, you know, Oklahoma beat Illinois State this, uh, in week one, 353. John Mottier was really good. 392 yards passing three touchdowns. Uh, he's the Washington state transfer, but they only ran for 103 yards on 32 carries. Uh, jade not the big transfer running back they got, uh, did not play much. Um, I know that there are some offensive line questions at Oklahoma right now, which I think is a huge benefit for Michigan. especially with that defensive line, I think they have a chance to get after him.

The secondary is going to be tested this week. There's no question about it. And I think if there's a question right now on this Michigan defense, it's at corner and they're going to get tested. This is a, it's a huge week for Michigan when you look at the totality of this season in my mind. For sure. It's any time, especially early in the season, when you can play a blue blood like Oklahoma, There's so much history and tradition with that school, and it's on the road, and it's a night game, and it's nationally televised.

There's all this thing, stuff kind of culminating into being a big hyped game because that's what it is. It's two blue bloods, Michigan and Oklahoma going at it early in the season. It's not going to determine the Big Ten. It's not going to maybe, for Michigan, maybe it might determine who they're, you know, playoff seating and all that. But this is a big game, a big opportunity for people who might not know. some of these Michigan names to make a name for themselves early on in the season. And when you talk about Oklahoma airing it out, when you talk about Oklahoma passing, I mean, they played Illinois State.

Like, I mean, I'd hope they throw for 400 yards, you know. But when you play a team like Michigan and, you know, I'm going to keep giving wink his praises, he's going to have some things schemed up that, you know, are going to hopefully take the edge or some of the pressure off of those cornerbacks because you're right. they are going to get tested. And if Oklahoma has more than one good receiver, it's going to be a fun test to watch and sit back and see how they do. But go back to complimentary football.

If the offense can stay out there, give Oklahoma's offense less opportunities to score and put points on the board, I think Michigan can come away victorious, especially if they can run the ball like they did against the Lobos. I think Michigan's in for a lot of success. How does Bryce Underwood handle the atmosphere, his first road test, his first, you know, big challenge against a team that is going to have guys that are physically as strong as you? How do they kind of handle all of those things for the first time as a young player? I think he's had pressure his whole life, you know.

I think he's had, I mean, this might be the first time he's played out of the state of Michigan. I don't know if his high school played anybody, you know, went, went to those. Florida schools or Texas schools and played. But I think he's built for this type of moment. I think he's built for success and for the ability to shine in these big moments because there's a lot of players that would fold. I play with a lot of five-star guys that came with a lot of hype that just never really figured it out. And obviously, Bryce has a lot of a lot of games left to prove that. But I think from what we saw in this small sample size, he's ready. He's ready to put on a show to show people what he's made of and maybe he keeps the ball once or twice

and runs it because as as someone like me, I like to see the quarterback run a little bit. But I think whatever the game plan is between Coach Moore and Coach Lindsay, it's going to be a good one. All right, Worm, this was fun, just the maiden voyage here, our first one. We've got it under our belts now. Next week, we'll be back. We'll break down the Oklahoma game. we will look ahead to the rest of the season. This was fun.

I appreciate it. Absolutely, man. Stadium in Maine. I'm excited for this one. This is going to be good. I think this is going to be a good thing. I hope Michigan fans would like it. If there's stuff you would like to see, reach out.

We're pretty easy to get a hold of. What's your Twitter handle? I don't even know your Twitter handle. Do you know it? Chris underscore Wormley, 43, big worm underscore 43 on Instagram. you know we'll get a we'll get an instagram page going for this podcast and and people can reach out to us there but um this is this is going to be fun i'm excited for this one yeah appreciate blue by 90 bringing us on i think this is going to be good let's hope uh and remember share

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