Blue By Ninety - Sweet 16

Episode Date: March 27, 2021

Michigan Men's and Women's basketball advance to the sweet 16! We recap both games, talk #notNCAAproperty, Men's vs Women's weight rooms at the tourney and why the cfb playoff should be expanded to at... least 16 teams. crack a cold one and enjoy the show.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the University of Michigan. Touchdown, Michigan! That's the beat of Michigan ball! And they've got one extra pass. And it goes for the win! The three-pointer by Jordan Poole! Down the sideline! People jump!
Starting point is 00:00:21 Touchdown, Wolverines! Alright, welcome back to Blue by 90. I am Justin, joined by Jack and Kalen. As always, it is Thursday, March 25th. And we are moving on to the Sweet 16. Yes, sir. No, not just this Sweet 16, right? Fourth consecutive Sweet 16 in four years under two different head coaches.
Starting point is 00:01:00 I mean, there's obviously a COVID year there with no tournament. So it's technically fourth in five years, right? But still, just, I mean, I didn't look this up, obviously, which looking up stats like official stats is for nerds. So we don't actually do that. But this has got to be like the first time ever that that's happened under two different head coaches. I wouldn't be surprised. And I like I like the sound of four in a row much better than four out of five. So we'll stick with four in a row. It makes it sound better. I like that. And women's team.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Women's team is in there. I think it's like Michigan, Baylor, and I don't know who else. But they've got both men's and women's teams in the Sweet 16 right now. Love that. Shout out KBA. I will say this about the women's team.'ll say this about the women's team i was worried about the women's team going into the tournament they were playing not so great basketball and but kba got it together that was a i mean they they beat tennessee who's like unbelievable program yeah yeah that
Starting point is 00:02:03 was incredible game great and they kind of smoked them yeah and uh but and they're like you know kind of a historic program in in women's basketball so yeah that was sweet i mean it's just i mean there's merch out there that says this if you go to umiss store.com we're basketball school that's right barstool sports was a little they were a little late to that party man you can get merch there too but they don't have the banners like uh like we got yeah now basketball school gotta go umich tees 5 30 than this. Love it. Love it.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Yeah, I know. Our logo is way cooler, but they just put basketball school on there, you know, so whatever. So, but it is, I mean, it's pretty incredible for both Juwan and KBA. What I think is cool about that, too that they like seem pretty tight like i think they actually like get along really well which is you know it's just different a lot of times i think that that's like a fake relationship between coaches on for a lot of teams out there and a lot of schools it's like uh you know oh i i'll go to one game a year their biggest game the the head you know basketball coach will uh for the men's just to like show face get your face on
Starting point is 00:03:32 the big screens and stuff juan like literally goes to every one of their games it's pretty sweet so good for them it's pretty sweet to see that so um, but yeah, I, so they be the women's team beat Tennessee on Monday or Tuesday. Monday, Monday, maybe. I don't know. But they're Tuesday because Michigan men's men played on Monday. So it could be a Tuesday. And now they both play on Saturday. So men's plays at three women plays at five right away. Yeah. I think men's play on Saturday. So, men's plays at 3.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Women's plays at 5 right away, yeah. I think men's play on Sunday. Right? Hold on. Don't be able to check our facts here. I thought it was women at 5 and men at 3. Or March 28th. I got women playing Saturday at three. Men playing Sunday at five.
Starting point is 00:04:39 All right. Yeah, you're right. Is that right? Okay. I fucked up. I fucked up. I'm a fucking idiot. This guy. It's fine. Luckily, I'm a nerd. And I look up Okay. I fucked up. I fucked up. I'm a fucking idiot. This guy.
Starting point is 00:04:45 It's fine. Luckily I'm a nerd and I look up the, I was just going to say, we don't do research. I just said it. So that's just what you get people. Oh man. No,
Starting point is 00:04:57 I was betting women's basketball. I was watching that game. I bet on that game. What I bet Michigan. I think it was, uh, I think I got them at like minus 10 and.5 when they were up by like 13 on a streak. And they ended up winning by 15, so that was huge.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And then, dude, I was betting women's basketball all day Tuesday. I got up. You're a degenerate. Oh, yeah. I got up pretty big, and I lost it all on a three-team parlay that I put in last night. And I was like, you know what? I'm probably going to lose this, but but i'm just gonna do it for fun and uh i cashed out whatever i put in prior to that so i didn't lose any money but i am uh officially a degenerate gambler now betting on women's basketball officially you know you know how like you can
Starting point is 00:05:42 be a gambler and like buy a horse for horse racing? Are you going to buy a women's basketball team and manage one? That'd be dope as hell. If I could afford it, I totally would. You just got to go full degenerate, and that's where your winnings go. As long as I win, that'd be amazing. How are your guys' brackets doing? Oh, I haven't checked after the second round.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I'm checking mine. I was like, I know I'm fucked. I had Illinois winning it all. I had Illinois in one of mine for sure. Yeah, I think I had Illinois in the final four. I had Ohio State going to, think the elite eight they fucking lost early i i mean my bracket's fucked i gotta be pretty low on there row you were pretty high up for a second last time i checked i think so andhmm. Did you like my name on that one? What was yours?
Starting point is 00:06:48 It was like Jawan greater than Izzo or something like that. Heather texted me back. She's like, oh, cool name. All right. Let's see. Oh, I'm 10th. I'm not doing too shabby. I'm better than I was.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I was like 30th. Not bad. Jawan Izzo. That's you. I'm better than I was. I was like 30th. Not bad. Juan Izzo. That's you. Fifth place. Not too bad. I'm tied for 10th with Kalen, Big Dickinson Energy. I'm not mad about that.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I'm okay. I'm cool with 10th place. How many people are in that one? I think 30-some. Awesome. I'm fifth out of 30? I'm a fucking genius. Jesus, guys.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yeah, make yourself look real smart. Dude, I don't know why you're not. I don't know why this bracket's not on, like, draft games. It should be. It should be. Make yourself some money. Seriously. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Well, so, all right. So we figured it out. Women's plays on Saturday, men's play on Sunday. I actually like that a lot because then, like, the women's, you know, we get them a win. The men's team gets some confidence, you know, and then everybody's rolling. I like that a lot. I like that a lot.
Starting point is 00:07:59 So, I mean, I'm going to be watching women's on Saturday for sure. Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. 3 p.m. game. That's happy hour. Baylor's big, though, man. Those girls are – they have some big girls on that team. That'll be a tough matchup for Michigan.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Brittany Griner doesn't have, like, a little sister that's on their team or something, right? Looks like she's got about four little sisters on that team. So, all right. So I was looking at – I was just trying to look at the, you know, the bracket and look at what we've got to deal with here. So, you know, Sweet 16. So let's see. Does it start on the, on Sunday?
Starting point is 00:08:47 No, Saturday. Yeah. I think there's men's game starting Saturday. So Saturday we got Houston Syracuse on Saturday. We've got Loyola and Oregon state that, that bracket. What this, what is it? The Midwest bracket. That region, what is it? The Midwest bracket? That region is fucked.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Oh, my God. If Houston doesn't come out of that, you're trash. There's a two seed versus an 11 seed and an eight seed versus a 12 seed. That kind of looks like Michigan's bracket from 2018, actually. Especially because Loyola's actually in it. And Houston's in it. oh shit what was that sweet 16 game or the round of 32 that was the saturday night that was the round of 32 what an incredible game that was 16 i think fucking a yeah yeah i love that loyola team though that fucking mustache guy i mean he's like 40 years old his mustache and he's fucking just car ramrod dropping 20 or 30 points a game
Starting point is 00:09:53 it's i mean it's that's just what march is all about dude like you fall in love with these mid major teams that have guys that like if they weren't playing hoops, they'd be like, I don't know what they'd be doing. Whether it be just drug dealers or, like, that guy for sure is, like, stealing pot.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Busting tables with Denny's or something, man. Oh, man. And then what do you got? What region's oral robertson who are they playing so they play on saturday as well so that's arkansas oral roberts on saturday um so that's a 3 versus a 15 and then that baylor villanova's that day as well so i feel like baylor would be a good game. Yeah. I mean, Gillespie's still out for, like, he's torn ACL forever.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Not forever, but definitely. Gone forever. He's gone forever. Dude, Baylor's good as fuck. Like, Baylor dominated. They're no joke. Like, initially, when they were coming into March Madness, I was like, I don't know, we'll see how Baylor turns out. And I actually, initially, when they were coming into March Madness, I was like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:05 We'll see how Baylor turns out. And I actually, like, watched them play for the first time this season. And I was like, damn, they're fucking good. Yeah. I think Arkansas is kind of the same way. Like, they're pretty damn good, too. They are. They're hit or miss, though, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Yeah, they have some flaws. Like, Baylor, I feel like, doesn't. Baylor and Gonzagaaga they don't have flaws no they're fucking good but Arkansas definitely has some flaws I mean dude this bracket is actually so nuts um I I don't know is this like are we overreact reacting like this kind of happens every year or is this one of those brackets that's like one every 10 years because we've got out of the 16 teams in the sweet 16 we've got a a 15 seed we've got a 12 seed we got A 7 seed. And a 6 seed. And then 1, 2.
Starting point is 00:12:08 2 5s. A 4. And 3 1s. I think that's pretty rare, man. I mean, what did they say? They said before Oral Roberts. Who was the last 15 seed to go to a Sweet 16? I think it was like 2010.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Yeah, it was a long time ago, I think. Man. That's it was like 2010. Yeah, it was a long time ago, I think. Man. That's a fucking decade ago. I don't know if you remember, but Middle Tennessee State did beat Michigan State as a two seed. They did. They did. They didn't make it past anything else, though, but that was a great thing for me. That's for my Blue Raiders.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Gotta get our jabs in while we can, baby. Have to, have to. They're watching from home. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Spartys. Sucks to suck, man. Sorry. And to top it all off, that Enoch
Starting point is 00:12:58 or whatever his name is, just committed to Arizona State. Hey, now they know how we feel. I know. That one was like, that came full circle after Josh Christopher. And I was just like, all right, I'm,
Starting point is 00:13:11 I feel a little bit validated now. I feel like now we just need a money baits news to come out. He's going to the G league. Cause I mean, he's going to the fucking G league. And then is, I was just like, I'm out.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I'm gone. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. I, I like, I usually I'm like, Izzo will, like, this kind of shit happens, and Izzo figures, like, figures it all out somehow, puts it together. And I still think he can next year for sure, but doesn't it just feel a little bit different?
Starting point is 00:13:41 It feels a little more severe. Yeah. I don't know, man. It's been a weird year i could i mean i could either see them kind of tanking or just doing what sparty normally does and they have a good they just remain fine but we'll see who knows man i don't know i don't i don't love any of their young guys really was rocket watts coming back he had a tough year anyway like he didn't play great people said rumors that he was transferring just start just came out today oh wow
Starting point is 00:14:09 i don't know man i don't know they still got a good class akins is a stud that's coming in so they still got a good class so it's not like they got scrubs coming in i i i would bet that they're young guys like the freshman coming in will actually play but i mean it's gotta be a top 10 class for them right top five yeah it's good it's still good even without imani and and if imani comes then that changes everything you know that that's still on the table because so all right enough talking about msu they're out of the fucking tournament they're at this point true um but i would i want to ask you guys this so out of those out of these sweet 16 teams let's say from a six and above who is most likely to win 16 and above in the sweet 16 so that leaves usc oregon oral roberts loyola oregon state ucla and syracuse who's most likely to win this round? Yeah, who's most likely to move on?
Starting point is 00:15:27 Fucking Loyola. Or maybe a question is will we see any of those people move on? Obviously Loyola and Oregon State play each other. I think Loyola is going to take that game and I'm confident enough to say Oral Roberts, man. That Ace Miss kid, man.
Starting point is 00:15:42 If he's hot, he's the leading scorer in Division I basketball. I mean, anything can happen. Miss kid, man. If he's hot, he's the leading scorer in Division I basketball. I mean, anything can happen. You know, I mean, Arkansas is a good team. I feel like they're hit or miss sometimes, so there's always an opportunity. And same with Ohio State. They're kind of the same way. They're hit or miss.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Either they're really good or they just look kind of lost out there. And I know they were playing without whoopsies and ups. But I don't know. I like that Oral Roberts team, man. They're fun to root for i kind of like that um uh oregon that's kind of a team that just seems like it's getting hot at the right time i know they got a rematch against usc which for a second i totally and i was like wait a second that's a pac-12 rematch yeah so i would like to see how that game turns out i'm not going
Starting point is 00:16:26 to bet on it but um i think that's a team that if they're getting hot at the right time which it seems like they are they could go forward yeah and it's kind of weird well they didn't uh they didn't have to play that first game, you know, because VCU had COVID. Oh, right, yeah. So then, you know, that definitely is a big advantage. I don't know. It's kind of an advantage, kind of a disadvantage. I get it.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Like, you want to be able to get out there and shoot a little bit and get your legs under you. But not having to play two games in three days, definitely an advantage in my opinion. Trying to look up what was the USC and Oregon result. They lost. Who lost? Oregon.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Ah. I'm putting in a parlay right now with the 12-0-8 I have remaining in my Barstool account. Dude, they got smoked by – or Oregon smoked them. Oregon smoked USC? No, USC smoked Oregon. What's what I got? I got Loyola Chicago beating Oregon State. I got Baylor over nova got old
Starting point is 00:17:45 roberts over arkansas syracuse over houston kensago over creighton michigan over florida state ucla over bama and then oregon over usc i'm gonna wager 1208 to possibly win to possibly win $4,198.89. And we're locked in. All right. Hope for the best. Love it. Let's hope for the best here. Proof.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Proof. There you go. There it is. There you go. That'd be amazing. All right. Love it. Love it. So, all right. that'd be amazing alright love it love it so alright I mean I just I agree with you Kalen
Starting point is 00:18:30 because or I mean when you're in the tournament if you can score 95 points I mean you could if you could just get that hot doesn't matter if you don't play defense you just keep that hot, it doesn't matter if you don't play defense.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Yeah, you've got a chance. Yeah. But I will say, Iowa, hey, Fran McCaffrey, would you like to teach some defense at some point? Like, has it not burned you enough yet? My God, you're giving up 95 points to a seven seed out of the Pac-12. Although the Pac-12 is kind of killing it. Bill Walton. They are.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I mean, Bill Walton is in his heyday right now. He's in fucking heaven. Oh, yeah. 100%. So we got to talk about, we do have to talk about Michigan beating whoever the fuck they just beat. Who'd they beat in the round of 32? They're so far behind us. Why'd you do this to us?
Starting point is 00:19:34 LSU. LSU, yes. Can we talk about Shondy Brown, Eli Brooks? 21 points each? Holy fuck. Yeah, I was going to get to it, but here we go. Let's go into it. I mean, that was about as gritty of a win as you could ever imagine, right?
Starting point is 00:19:54 Oh, man, I fucking loved it. I was nervous as hell in the beginning because LSU came out hot, hitting shots, Michigan looked kind of rough, and then that streak to end the first half man i was so fucking hyped so hyped for that it was i mean it was that game i thought was very similar to what they did earlier in the year where before um like before covid and, you know, when they were kind of rolling earlier in the year where, when people didn't, when let's say livers didn't show up, like in frauds didn't have a good game.
Starting point is 00:20:33 These other guys stepped up, right? Like it was one of those things where that's what was kind of amazing about them earlier this in the season was like, it was like when one guy would have a bad game, it would automatically elevate somebody else and they would pick up like perfectly and that's what shaundi and eli did and i mean eli looks like i mean he's just gonna keep shooting as many times as he can let him dude he's launching he he is playing the best he has of his entire career right now and that's perfect can't ask for any more than
Starting point is 00:21:05 that and if shawnee can stay hot i mean what there's you know best case scenario one two three four more games if shawnee can stay hot for four games eli can keep playing his best of his abilities four more games franz is gonna have at least a couple good games in there somewhere and dickinson's gonna have a couple good games too I mean Michigan still has a chance man I was nervous at first but that that most recent game really you know kind of made me feel a lot more comfortable and gave me a little more excitement for the rest of the tournament seeing other guys step up Brandon Johns too Brandon Johns had a solid game dude I love that. I mean, yeah,
Starting point is 00:21:46 there were a couple of moments where I was starting to get a little bit worried here and there, but gosh, I can't remember exactly maybe like two minute mark in the second half when Sean, you hit that three to go ahead. I was like, okay, like have yourself a game kid. That was awesome. Yeah. I, I just, have yourself a game kid that was awesome yeah i i just i agree with you jack because i think that if you can dig down deep like it doesn't matter here's how michigan played that game it wasn't like it wasn't flawless at all right at all it, they dug down deep, they figured out a way,
Starting point is 00:22:26 and from Juwan Howard and Phil Martelli in this coaching staff's perspective, too, I thought they played an unbelievable game. Not played. They coached an unbelievable game to say that they made adjustments after. It was very obvious what LSU was trying to do. And, I mean, I thought LSU came out and had a pretty good game plan in the beginning. But they basically, like, rolled the ball out and they were just like, we are pretty damn athletic and we can score.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And we have these two dudes that are unbelievable and we're going to go at you. I mean, was it just me that I was like, I know the announcer kept saying it about like they're like the second best team of floaters in the country, but I'm like, dear God, they make every floater. And it looked like it was just like, I'm like, what is going on? It's an incredible shot to have in your repertoire, man. John Howard, they're about to be working on that this offseason. Phil Martelli, I'm about to see him over in the Saline condos working on his floater game.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Dude, some of those threes they shot, too. Some of those were deep. Yeah, dude, they were hot in the first half. I was looking at, I don't remember what it was. I think it was like the big show or SportsCenter I was watching this morning. And it showed like they were like four of nine from three in the first 17 minutes of the game. And I think the last 23, they were like two of 17. And that might be exaggerated, but it was something along those lines well i mean the defense for michigan just stepped up and it was insane because i think we
Starting point is 00:24:11 were it was michigan minus six in the first 17 minutes and they were plus 17 in the last 23 that sounds right to me but i'm an incredible turnaround i yeah i chalked that up to coaching in my head to say you're going to make great adjustments at halftime. They identified the problem. I also just chalked that up to Michigan being like, we're not going to fucking let this happen, right? Like, these guys are like, they, that's where I also have confidence in this team. And knock on wood, because because like i don't know you just feel like sometimes when you have that uh that type of a game this next one i know it's a tournament but this next one where it's like people were worried about lsu not as worried
Starting point is 00:24:55 about florida state and that's like i don't know there's no such thing as a trap game in the ncaa tournament but you still get that feeling right well then also, I mean, can we talk about Mike Smith? Probably the worst game of his, I mean, Michigan career for sure, maybe even his college career, I promise you it's not going to happen again. There's no way. I think he's going to have a huge game against Florida State. Somehow in a, what'd they end up winning by? Somehow in an eight-point game, he was – eight-point win, he was minus 10. That's hard to do.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Wild. It was wild. I mean, are you looking at stats right now? Yeah. How many turnovers did he have? He had four turnovers. That's probably the most he's had all year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And a lot of them were, like, second half. Yeah. I remember Patty – dude patty texted me he's like dude mike smith if we lose this game it's gonna be because mike smith you know cost cost michigan the game and he was i mean the plays that he was making at the end of the game was i mean it was tough he's airballing shots i mean he's had a rough game and i don't want to like kill the kid for it but i but i think because of that he's going to have such a great game against florida state and i'm pumped man i think he i think he's gonna fucking ball out i'm excited to see it yeah i mean smart and thomas for lsu they both went 10 for 23 god I hate that guy. His haircut's awful. How about that? They both went 10 for 23. And, God, you know what pissed me off the most about that game?
Starting point is 00:26:33 Fucking free throws, man. And LSU almost won by getting to the line like half the time down the floor. Yeah. So stupid. That's what cost me yesterday. I was betting on one of the women's games, but they kept missing their free throws, man. I needed to win by five, and they kept missing free throws.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Lost me money. That's crazy. So those two guys were both 10 for 23. So that means that they had, you know, what combined? 46? 46 shots combined. They only put up 69 field goals they only put up 69 shots so those two guys combined for 46 of their 69 field goals that's great wild literally two-thirds of their fucking shots that's that's wild dude so um yeah no i thought it was a really good win.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I mean, so I was in the airport getting ready to fly out. I'm, like, pacing, literally pacing around the thing while people are boarding during that last, like, five minutes. And I'm just like, yes, yes. Like, people are staring at me. Who's this fucking wacko? Fucking air marshal about to tackle your ass exactly oh man it was like perfect timing we got uh we got the raid out we yeah right before i took off the memes were good it was man. That's all that matters.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Exactly. So let's look ahead a little bit to this weekend, then. We'll do a little preview against Florida State. So, I mean, we already did a little bit. But Florida State has – what did you say about them, Jack? Well, from the game, I only i only saw them beat virginia and virginia fucking sucks we all know that now um but they're big athletic and they can run so i mean that's i feel like if michigan is missing shots you know losing the turnover battle
Starting point is 00:28:41 i feel like they're gonna florida state will kind of kill us in transition so that's that's what i'm worried about more than anything is if we're kind of fucking up and you know giving them the ball i think it's gonna be florida state's game yeah um i just i mean i think they're playing pretty well right now i thought colorado was a pretty damn good team so um but here's what I'll say too Georgetown should not have made it in the tournament they were like 500 they won the Big East tournament they were 500 all year though like I know like they you know what I mean like they would never have gotten an at-large bid if they if they didn't win the tournament I know I picked them to win that game, too. I was like 5-12. They really should have been like – they honestly should have been like a 14 or 15 seed.
Starting point is 00:29:30 They should never have been a 12. So Colorado beat the fucking rocks off them because they just like – Oh, killed them. Yeah. But then Florida State kicked the shit out of Colorado. So I don't know, man. I think this is just like, but then Florida State only beat UNC Greensboro by 10. They're just a streaky team because you go back and look at their schedule for Florida State and they lost to UCF, who Michigan beat really easily earlier in the year.
Starting point is 00:30:05 They lost to Clemson. They lost to Georgia Tech twice. They lost to North Carolina, and North Carolina's maybe worst year in the history of their program. But then they also had some good wins. They beat Florida. I'm trying to go back to it. I don't know they're just like this team that is they can get hot because they try to just run the floor they they try so so hard to just get out there and run that like sometimes that
Starting point is 00:30:37 works really really well you know but then sometimes that is like if they don't shoot well, then that's your only chance. Yeah, I mean, they got to play good D, right? They got to play good D and run down the court, and that's how I see Florida State winning. If Michigan plays well, they play smart, get good shots, pass the ball around to the open guy, I think we're golden. But it'll be another tough game man
Starting point is 00:31:05 i mean obviously it's march every game's tough we'll see oh yeah they went to they beat indiana by two in ot dude i i don't want to like discount this team but i don't think they're a good team like outside of florida who was what a seven seed seven seed? They don't have any good wins. Who did they beat so far? They beat Colorado. UNC Greensboro. They lost.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I mean, they beat... They lost to Georgia Tech in the ACC tournament, dude, in the second round. Is Georgia Tech in the ACC tournament, dude. In the second round. Is Georgia Tech a bad team? I thought they were solid. They were in the tournament, right?
Starting point is 00:31:54 I don't know. I don't know. But all I'm saying is let me go through Florida State's wins. North Florida. Yeah, Florida State, right? Yeah. Florida State's wins. North Florida. Yeah, Florida State, right? Yeah. Florida State's wins. North Florida, Indiana in OT by two.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Florida, they did beat Georgia Tech. So they played Georgia Tech three times, which is kind of weird. But they lost two out of three. Lost to UCF. Beat Gardner-Webb. Gardner-White Gardner White? No. Oh, he's a sale. Playing in the warehouse, dude.
Starting point is 00:32:34 NC State. North Carolina. Louisville. Who's bad? Well, were they? Are they bad this year? No, they were pretty solid, actually. I think they were decent.
Starting point is 00:32:46 That's probably their best win. Clemson, Miami. Clemson's not bad. Clemson's decent. Virginia's the worst team. Yeah, most overrated team of fucking all time. Pitt, Miami, Boston College, North Carolina, and then UNC Greensboro and Colorado. They have like two,
Starting point is 00:33:08 maybe three good wins all year is what I'm saying. You're not wrong. I don't know how they got to be a four seed. What's their record? 18-6. I mean... It's not bad.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Who won the ACC tournament? It's a solid record. Who won the ACC tournament? That's a good question. Was it Florida State? Might have been. No, because they lost to... Clemson. Clemson, maybe?
Starting point is 00:33:38 Right, right, right. Who the fuck won the ACC tournament? Obviously it wasn't Duke or UNC. They're 15-1 at home and then 2-4 on the road. Yikes. It's encouraging. Hey, Kalen.
Starting point is 00:34:00 It's good to see your face, Kalen. Yeah, I'm back. I love when you surprise us. You're like, I'm gonna pop on makes me happy makes me happy oh shit um Virginia
Starting point is 00:34:16 dude your team what the fuck Virginia beat Syracuse the fighting Jim Davis they were really a trash it's kind of crazy like What the fuck? Virginia beat Syracuse. The fighting gym day. They were really a trash conference. It's kind of crazy
Starting point is 00:34:29 because without UNC and Duke that conference is trash. Normally. Right? How many ACC teams are still in the March Madness tournament? They got Syracuse, Florida State.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Anybody else still left in there? Already better than Big Ten. Yeah, already better than Big Ten. We can't really talk shit on conferences right now. I know, right? Fucking everybody else fucking destroyed it. Let's talk about that. Why?
Starting point is 00:35:10 Why? right let's talk about that why why i mean this i i mean i don't think this big 10 like season was a fluke these teams were legit like there was a time when i thought iowa was the best team in the country and then there was a time when i thought ohio state was the best team in the country and there was obviously many times i thought michigan was the best team in the country you know like i don't know there it's just kind of crazy then you add like purdue was pretty good and um you know illinois like all these teams illinois yeah i don't think anybody saw illinois fucking losing in the second round we all said it. We were like, Illinois is going to win this fucking thing. Because who's going to stop Io?
Starting point is 00:35:50 Who's going to stop Kofi? And then two days later, see you. Yes, some randoms. Yeah, fucking hell. It's just, I don't know. Like, I don't know. I just don't think it was like a true fluke or anything like that but like loyola they got run out by loyola from their own freaking state come on man so i don't i don't know what what is your guys take on that is that like is that a factor does
Starting point is 00:36:19 that mean that the big 10 was actually bad or was was that like, just like, you know, March happens? And is it the same with the Pac-12? Is it like, was the Pac-12 actually good, even though we all thought they were shit all year? Or was it like, eh, March, just shit happens? I think for the Big Ten, fuck, man, I don't know. I want to say I think for the Big Ten, it's just kind of shit happens, like in March. But the Pac-12, they could have just been beating up on each other all season.
Starting point is 00:36:48 And they come into the fucking tournament and they just destroy it. Yeah, I think it's just March happens, right? Like, yeah, Illinois looked good. But once you roll Sister Jean out there, like, you know, you sprinkle the March fairy dust on all the teams. Who knows? Never bet against Sister Jean, especially on a Sunday. I did tweet this one out. I thought this was a pretty good one.
Starting point is 00:37:17 When Ariana Grande wrote God is a Woman, she was obviously talking about Sister Jean. It was amazing. I love it. i love it i love it oh man fucking g i was tweeting that one like giggling to myself all right where you're at the airport going like frantically crazy just like giggling to yourself people thought you're a serial killer my head's been down like buried in my phone the entire time i haven't spoken to i haven't even like made eye contact with anybody yeah basically basically so um all right what's what's uh what's let's see outside
Starting point is 00:37:59 of the michigan game i would think the the top two uh games in the bracket that I'm looking at outside of Michigan game are definitely Gonzaga, Creighton, and Baylor-Villanova. Agreed? I'm going to say Baylor-Villanova and then Oral Roberts-Arkansas. Alright. Kalen? Yeah, and then we kind of touched on it earlier. I'm into that And then Oral Roberts, Arkansas. All right. Kalen? Yeah, and then we kind of touched on it earlier.
Starting point is 00:38:31 I'm into that USC-Oregon game. Yeah. I think Gonzaga's going to run everybody out of the fucking gym. Dude, if they ever had a chance at, like, actually doing this thing, this has got to be it, right? They're so fucking good if they don't win a national championship i think that's going to be one of the biggest letdowns in all of sports i mean college basketball specifically i don't know i mean yeah they they're undefeated
Starting point is 00:38:56 right like they they haven't even come close to getting beat really all year and i mean i think the closest game was maybe byu and i mean i think they still won by like eight yeah i think i think yeah matt harms dude fucking went to byu it was so weird for him to go to byu yeah that has why you'd go to purdue and then transfer and sign up to not have sex at BYU. Yeah, BYU is just like Concordia. We did have to sign away. I promise I won't have a sexual marriage.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Oh, goodness. Oh, that was probably all degenerates. Just like us. It's like, yeah, yeah, we're we're, you know, religious school. And you go there. They're one of the biggest party schools in the fucking country. Probably. Let's keep it under wraps.
Starting point is 00:40:08 That's a good idea. We're going blue by 90 undercover college visit to byu oh man i love that i was just in utah you were there basically yeah pretty much there are a lot of mormons out there and mormons are they're a different breed i'll say that different crowd that's for sure can't have sex till you're married but then you can have like 35 wives i mean i'd be like i don't know i don't know if you're a gambler you might take that deal maybe at that point you know you get 35 wives maybe it's worth it at that time to hold out i don't know it's basically just flipping like a lot of what marriage is for a lot of people where yeah they have a lot of fun up until marriage and then once they get married it's like you're never gonna have fun again for the rest of you you're very excited for your wedding next year i yeah yeah i can see as i'm literally planning a wedding right now You're very excited for your wedding next year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I'm literally planning a wedding right now. Already regretting this. Shit. I got a lot of time to think about this still. We're good. You still got time to back out. You don't. You don't.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I don't. I'm locked up, man. I got no choice. Shouts out to all our Mormon listeners, man. Oh, man. If you have any great listeners out there, please call in. Please do something. It would be amazing.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Enlighten us on the Mormon culture. On soaking. Do you guys know what soaking is? I have no idea what that is. Sounds erotic. It all right we're gonna go down a little rabbit hole right now so please you have any children around you know earmuffs so soaking is what mormons do to avoid like or to like kind of get go around the whole no sex thing where apparently you just put it in and just sit there okay that's what i was gonna assume it was you don't move you know
Starting point is 00:42:15 there's nothing you just soak it up oh man just is like the biggest tease of all time that sounds awful. I'd rather not. I'd just rather not. I don't want to soak. Oh, man. That's amazing. There's no.
Starting point is 00:42:34 It's a thing. And I love that once you said it, I was like, I know exactly what this is. Dude, I had no clue. I thought you were going to tell me you get in like a bathtub or something i was like where is this going well that's the thing is like this could be like one of three things either you're just like put it in just sit there but i'm like that's kind of that's pretty fucking weird or you're like hanging out in a fucking hot tub getting a hand job or something else like if you do it in a hot tub underwater it doesn't count i mean that's that's incredible
Starting point is 00:43:07 there was like that's the ultimate test of like fucking i mean hey that's saying i'm just that's love that's love jesus man fucking i'm just saying though like i'm thinking of back to pre-virginity. We just got dry humping. There's some motion there. I shouldn't say this. I don't know. All right. You know, we're off the rails.
Starting point is 00:43:36 So off the rails. So off the rails. How long is dry humping? It's a sports podcast. Fucking soaking. That's incredible. I can't wait till somebody pulls that clip so i'm just thinking pre-virginity oh man i'm gonna start talking to everybody about soaking now all right have you heard bring. We got to reel it in. Reel it in. All right. So, how did we get there?
Starting point is 00:44:10 We went to – we went from – Matt Harms. Well, how did we get to BYU? Oh, we went from Gonzaga to BYU. BYU, Gonzaga, yeah, yeah, yeah. To Mormon, to Soaking. That's a hell of a rabbit hole right there. That's a hell of a tangent. I like it.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Yeah. that's a that's a hell of a rabbit hole right there that's how it changed i like it yeah um i also here's one game that i am kind of intrigued on and there's i have an ulterior motive here for sure but it's alabama ucla solely because every spartan fan out there has to be watching that game like oh my god if we don't completely fuck up against ucla we're in the sweet 16 easy and like and then you just never know what happens in the sweet 16 right especially with with a team like his l and you know an msu so my buddy uh justin on he bet or he put um he filled out a bracket with. It was the winner of that first four game to go, I think, to go on to win it just for like fun. So he's like, yeah, fuck, I hope I hope UCLA goes on and goes deep into the tournament because I picked that first four winner to go on and go deep.
Starting point is 00:45:24 And they've got a chance. I mean, I think Alabama's really fucking good, and I'd be shocked if they lose. But I picked UCLA to win just for fun. So I'll be rooting for the Bruins. That's for sure. That's crazy, though, dude. I mean, MSU could have cakewalked to a Sweet 16
Starting point is 00:45:40 with one of their worst teams of the last of the last, you know, decade, two decades or whatever. Yeah. And, yeah, like, I mean, I just think that, like, I would bet on, like, this hurts me to say it, but I would bet on Izzo in the Sweet 16 more than, you know, I think Nate Oates is really good, but, like, he's never been to the Sweet 16 before, right? So even though Alabama is obviously way more talented
Starting point is 00:46:08 than MSU, I still would have said that coaching comes into factor there. It's just kind of crazy how March works when you look at it from that perspective. What could have been? All the what-ifs. Anything can happen. That's why it's the best. That's why it's the best. And also, I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Tell me how college football is not watching what's going on here every single March. And, like, holy shit, imagine the viewership. Imagine the excitement. Imagine all that like even with 16 teams it would be yeah unbelievable it'd be incredible i mean march madness is the most i think like obviously around college athletics more people watch march madness the new bowl season nobody gives a fuck about the buffalo wild wings bowl fuck no have a fucking january madness december madness winter madness whatever you want to fucking call it but if you have if you put 16 teams in there i mean that how fun that would be especially when you see all these teams where there's upsets 15-2 upsets we had fucking umbc beat whoever two years ago or three
Starting point is 00:47:23 years ago i mean there's huge upsets. Anybody can win. It's not always the top four teams that are going to fucking match up because maybe a number 10 team could win. You got to come out and play every day. Exactly, man. It would just make it so much more fun, so much entertaining, so much more entertaining. I think the viewership would go way fucking up. That's a good question though do you think that like i always get the
Starting point is 00:47:45 impression that basketball is a little bit more dynamic in terms of like it's easier for a worse team to upset a better team but in football it seems so like physically dominating like i don't it just makes it difficult to picture you know a team upsetting alabama or something you know i don't know so what i'll say about that is in college football right we still see upsets happen they happen right there are less games in football so we do see less upsets but we do still see them basketball there's way more games there's way more opportunity for upsets to happen march madness obviously like you get the top 64 teams in the country but some teams may be
Starting point is 00:48:26 under ranked or over ranked based on whatever conference they're in i mean i think there's so many different factors that go into why we see more in basketball than we do football but i think if we were able to get to a 16 team tournament in football i think we'd see more kind of stuff that we see in march with with the nca tournament. And it'd be, I mean, imagine how fun that would be if we saw fucking Alabama, even playing like a six, a six rank team in the country and they fucking lose. And Alabama is number one. Like that'd be incredible.
Starting point is 00:48:53 It'd be a huge upset. I mean, they're only five teams apart from each other, but we're not, we're used to seeing Alabama blow out everybody. I mean, people would love that shit. And to just jump on bandwagons like UMBC or fucking Oral Roberts.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Dude, imagine, like, every single person in the whole country that's not a Bama fan would be rooting for that 16th seed. Exactly. Like, how awesome would that be for that 16th seed to – and that's – I mean, here's the thing is that 16th seed is not going to be like a UMBC because they're still the 16th ranked team in the country, but it could be a BYU, right? Like Zach Wilson, right? Yeah, 100%. Coastal Carolina. Yeah, like it could be one of those, which would be unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:49:38 And, yes, I'm 100% sure that Coastal Carolina would get absolutely smacked by Alabama by 900 points but still that would be the best day of their lives that those kids lives to be able to like just be a part of that right and here's what i'll say too i'll add on to that so i think a lot of people will are like well it doesn't even matter if you expand the playoff in college football because it's just going to end up being clemson and bama in the final anyway yeah i think that's true in the short term but here's what happens if you expand the uh the playoff to 16 teams or something similar or 24 whatever i know that like nI does 24 and it works perfectly. And so here's what happens over time.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Those schools then get way more exposure. And so guys, the recruiting, they start going there because they don't, they think, Oh, well, I don't have to go to Alabama to get into the college football playoff.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I can go to a Michigan. I can go to, you know, a, a 10 through 15 type school and still have a chance to play for a national championship or play in the postseason or win a championship. So over the course of 10, 15, 20 years, it's not going to happen right away, but it creates more parity in college football so that those teams have a chance. A five-star now is much more apt to pick a 10- to 20-type ranked school than just for them to keep going to Ohio State, Bama, and Clemson.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Kind of like evens the recruiting playing field, so to speak. Those are all great points. Yeah. And I mean, I think that's why we see more, a more level playing field in college basketball. I mean, it's not always the same team. I mean, there's always like the same group of probably 10 or so teams that are really, really good,
Starting point is 00:51:38 but you don't see the same team winning the championship every year. You don't see, you know, the same team running through everybody every year. Like there's a group of 10 or more teams that are always really really good and always have a shot for the title it's not always like oh it's gonna be clemson bama or ohio state to win it right and it's because like like you said bro i mean if people if kids want to play in college football playoff they're like all right i gotta go to ohio state i gotta go to bama i I got to go to Clemson. And that's really it.
Starting point is 00:52:07 I mean, top three kind of guarantees to get in there, it seems like, right? But if you expand that to 16 teams or 24, levels of playing field for 20 more teams out there to get better recruits. And guys might be like, oh, you know, I don't have to go to Bama. Maybe I can get playing time right away, and I still have a chance to win a national title. Let me go there instead. I'd love to see that. I mean, it'd be nothing but good for, it'd do nothing but good for college football. Yeah, I think you combine that exposure to those other teams and the chance for the championship
Starting point is 00:52:39 and then you combine that with the actual chance for those upsets. Yeah, they're not going to be i don't think there will be as many upsets in college football as college basketball because of your point kaylin in college basketball you know you can be way smaller and still shoot the ball and if you shoot 70 from three you'll win right in college football you do have to be like size has a lot to do with it and the best teams recruit the biggest guys so there won't be but to that point but to that point with what you said over time if they do expand that playoff then then i think it would you know level that playing field a little bit yeah for sure for sure here's the other part to it. And, you know, Bocoy committed to Arizona State.
Starting point is 00:53:27 I mean, it couldn't be more obvious that Arizona State is dropping bags on these dudes. A hundred percent. It's like whatever, like I think everybody does. So it's not that big of a deal. But it gives in football, it gives the opportunity for people other than those top three teams to drop gigantic bags all of a sudden all of a sudden these uh like i don't know a byu or like a coastal carolina's dropping bags on fucking five stars even like honestly i'm trying to think of like what's a 15 to 25 type team out there um i don't know florida state a&m texas a&m i mean texas a&m is probably
Starting point is 00:54:07 already doing it but mississippi state i don't know like yeah or something who already was doing it too but like i don't know it just like it it gives the opportunity not in a good way but like that's how arizona state stays relevant right now right so like bobby hurley's happen bobby hurley's doing it and i don't know that's just how that shit's gonna happen and so i think too what what you can see there as well and this will happen in in all sports but if you expand that playoff the whole name image likeness thing now takes a whole nother meaning right because now you could say like there's gonna be there are gonna be schools out there that have that aren't good but they put together an incredible marketing program for athletes out
Starting point is 00:54:58 there to make a shit ton of money off their name image likeness and they're gonna skyrocket so 100 oh yeah so i i think we've said it before in this podcast but i i think that's a huge advantage for michigan in terms of recruiting you got the biggest alumni base base in the country basically and there are fans everywhere like there's no reason for Michigan to not take advantage of that and blow it out of the water. But nothing would be more Michigan than for us to drop the ball. Oh, I hate us. I mean, like, dude, it's just, like, it's fucking stupid. I mean, Michigan's fan base, alumni base reaches all corners of the fucking world.
Starting point is 00:55:52 To go to any big city, there's a Michigan fucking bar. There is a Michigan fucking theme bar, any major city in the country. And they have that reach and exposure for anything. And just to drop a ball on something like that is so fucking bothersome. Think about that. Think about just that right there is any of Michigan's athletes then can
Starting point is 00:56:14 fly to any major city and do an appearance and make a shit ton of money if you set that up. Yeah. We should start a fucking business on that actually. Straight up dude that's that's surreal dude like hey hey uh isaiah livers we're gonna fly you out this weekend to seattle show up at a bar we're gonna pay you 10 grand we're charging you know 100 bucks a person to
Starting point is 00:56:41 get in for a picture and an autograph and they get all you can eat like blah blah blah like whatever i i think that's legit it's incredible take it i'm writing this down take it the next step and consult with the colleges we'll charge you a hundred million dollars to do this for all your athletes and now we have 20 colleges you just made like two billion dollars we're billionaires look at this that took 30 seconds holy shit i actually think that's a good idea i'm writing it down all right it reminds me of uh have you guys have you guys heard of that players trunk like yeah dude that's sweet so the one guy jason um lansing he was a member at otf for a month oh really and um so i never like i didn't realize it was him until i saw him on bleacher
Starting point is 00:57:38 report fucking today with doing some like quick interview because he's just he's a team manager and they had the connections and now they're like huge i mean they've been in fucking uh gq like wall street journal all that kind of shit like they're all over the place man and they're so smart players apparel for them give them a cut and they just take care of the rest of it like they're just like hey give us your, we'll pay you, then we'll sell it. Like, it's genius. These kids are fucking genius, man. And the thing is, too, like, like,
Starting point is 00:58:14 those dudes have so much. So much. And it's all exclusive apparel. Right? So it's like a no-brainer. Oh, man. Yeah, I mean, that's just crazy. All right, I do want to talk about this part, though.
Starting point is 00:58:27 So the not NCAA property thing. Yeah, love it. I think we should talk about that. I think it's awesome, first of all. I think that Isaiah Livers might be the guy who, like, changes shit for college basketball. Like, it's already changing. Um,
Starting point is 00:58:46 but slowly, like the whole name image, like this thing still has two years on it. So he's basically just like, nah, we're not waiting. You're about to meet with us right now and change this shit now, because these dudes are working,
Starting point is 00:59:00 these dudes and girls and everybody else are working too hard for you to just keep profiting off it and there's no reason that you can't change that law basically immediately so i don't know i just thought it was cool and i thought i thought the one thing that i i thought was kind of badass was when uh they wrote the letter to mark emmert first and they were like we need a meeting with you uh blah blah blah and then mark emmert like, we need a meeting with you. Blah, blah, blah. And then Mark Emmert was like, yeah, I'll meet with you after the tournament. We'll meet later on. And they were like,
Starting point is 00:59:30 no, you're meeting with us this week. If you don't meet with us now, shit's going to go crazy. Those kids know, too. They're like, now is when it's all in their face. March Madness, NCAA, everything's out there. if it goes
Starting point is 00:59:45 after the tournament people are going to forget about it 100 it has to be now as soon as i love michigan as long as michigan keeps winning and livers keeps wearing that shirt so you get more and more attention i'd love to see all the players that keep that are in the tournament now like kind of fucking embrace it and like you know wear it when they're warming up or something like if you're if you're playing in the game, you know, keep – they need to get it to, like, get the ball rolling. Because I love that he's doing it, but I feel like he's the only one doing it right now.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Well, it was Bohannon and Geo Baker. Bohannon is on Iowa and Baker's on Rutgers. They're both out, you know. So, it's like, I don't know. You either got to convince anybody who's in the final four or whatever to do it or or then it kind of fizzles like for them i feel like it'd be huge if they got like gonzaga on it like that would be big right and uh i mean so he said it i think he he said in an interview he said i wouldn't be surprised if uh if there were delays to games because of it wow so like it sounds like these
Starting point is 01:00:49 guys are willing to like like hey we aren't gonna we aren't gonna go out there and play if you're gonna put us off that'd be kind of crazy dude hey if they can team up like that i think that'd be awesome everybody support each other that's huge yeah i love it how do you guys feel about the argument of like well you aren't you like you get your school paid for like that kind of stuff like you you should be um you know you should be feel like privileged to that you get a scholarship that you get taken care of that. Like you get treated that way. Cause sometimes I will say this,
Starting point is 01:01:30 like sometimes I hear that side of the statement, like dude, not having coming out of school and not having student loans in this day and age, pretty fucking big. Right. Yeah. So I hear that side of the statement and these guys do,
Starting point is 01:01:44 these guys and girls do get treated like Kings and Queens a lot of the time but i don't know yeah i think go ahead kaelin i think there's some validity to that argument i don't think that it's like total rubbish you know yeah but i mean at the end the day, like we all know the truth that like, they're not there to, you know, I'm not here to do school, you know, whatever, whatever he says, yeah, I'm not here to play school. It's they're there to play sports and like, let's call it how it really is. That's, that's my opinion. Um, yeah, to piggyback off that. Yeah. They're yeah, they're not there to – I mean, you know, there are plenty of kids out there to get an education. And there are plenty of athletes that do very well athletically and academically.
Starting point is 01:02:36 But nobody's paying – sorry, like to any other student out there. Nobody's paying an engineering student to watch them take a fucking test. Right? Like people are paying, people are paying money to sit in a seat, to watch these basketball and primarily basketball and football players go out into a field and make plays and put their lives on the line. Right? So the fact that they're bringing so much money to a university and to the NCAA,
Starting point is 01:03:03 that's why I think that they should be compensated somehow and they'll have to i think there needs to be a system to figure out who gets paid how much yada yada yada is that based off revenue is it based off how much money is made for different organizations but i mean the amount of money they're bringing in is is insane and like whether it's ten thousand dollars maybe it's not even that much but that's better than zero right i mean these kids are literally making college millions of dollars for the university and you're not getting compensated for it i mean you're getting a scholarship to get an education but a lot of these kids are smart too i'm sure they're getting a scholarship academically as well i mean it's not always always athletically yeah and i think still like to both your points there yeah i think there is some validity to like
Starting point is 01:03:51 it does like obviously a scholarship is very valuable right incredibly valuable and there are a lot of guys and girls that would never get into michigan without that athletic scholarship too so i think there's value to that part as well. But still, for what Isaiah Livers has brought into the University of Michigan, a scholarship is a fraction of what the university and the NCAA has made off it. Right? A fraction. If you actually went out there and were like, okay, in terms of advertising dollars and money revenue or TV revenue and like all these things
Starting point is 01:04:28 like dude jersey sales merch like all these things i mean it's millions and millions of dollars and yeah he's you know saving what two hundred thousand dollars on uh on education for a scholarship so like two hundred thousand dollars uh in comparison to five mil let's call it you know i don't know here's an idea that i just thought of what if like what if a student athlete could come in and if they're a top tier athlete, like they're the number one, two, three guy on the team, they can choose to they would have to pay for school but they can get paid as well.
Starting point is 01:05:14 I think that'd be interesting. So you have two choices. You can either get your scholarship paid for and you can't make money off of it or you have to pay for school and then you can make money off of it. So you're basically betting on yourself that you'll make enough money to pay off the school. That's tough.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Yeah, I think it's interesting. I think it's pretty interesting. I think for one-and-done guys, it's a no-brainer like make money off yourself right and then uh you got a bit right kind of kind of i mean depends how much money they could make right like we don't really know because we haven't really seen it because g league guys i mean they're making probably half a mil you know probably money will probably make a mil yeah but like also let's say you have a guy you know it's one and done going to duke you know i mean that's a huge big name basketball program they could be making fucking million dollars you know just doing random shit so i
Starting point is 01:06:19 don't know that's that's tough man it's it'd be tough i think it'd be really tough for the guys that are like question mark two-year guys. Like Hunter Dickinson. He could be a one-and-done, possibly. But more than likely, I think we all expect him to be a two-year guy. Is he somebody who's going to bet on himself, or is he going to take the scholarship? I do think it's tough to put a kid at that age in that position to make that decision. And that's also why the G League makes it even tougher, too. I do think it's tough to put a kid at that age in that position to make that decision.
Starting point is 01:06:55 And that's also why the G League makes it even tougher, too, because you can always go to the G League and get paid half a mil rather than kind of betting on yourself and going to college. Yeah, that's an interesting thought, yeah. I mean, the whole betting on yourself thing is like it comes from that. Right. But I think that I don't know that just services just like i see it as the name image likeness thing kind of sucks for a backup offensive lineman what's that guy gonna do you know and so i don't know he would take the scholarship whereas the quarterback takes the the thing another thing that i think would be pretty cool with that too is let's say there is a big name guy who takes the money instead of the scholarship i'm going to assume that frees up
Starting point is 01:07:49 scholarship money for the rest of the players that can't do that right so that could be beneficial to a lot of fucking people if it goes that route or if that ever does become an option this is why michigan should be taking advantage of it, right? It enables you to basically have better players because the guys that you – guys that elect to bet on themselves are really good. You don't have to offer them a scholarship, so you can then use that scholarship to recruit guys who are maybe on the cusp. Yeah, I like it. 100%.
Starting point is 01:08:22 100%. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, they're definitely so you see like i think there would be horror stories out of that where guy like top five star recruits blow blow his acl and gave three of his freshman year right and then he bet on himself now he's fucked for life yeah right literally the rest i mean that's like sad to say but like literally he's he's probably not in great shape for the rest of his life um because now he has to pay for school completely um you know and so i don't know they're definitely i don't know that was just a thought I just had. It's an interesting thought. It's an interesting thought. But yeah, obviously, I think, like what you just said,
Starting point is 01:09:07 I think, I don't think it could actually be an option just because of that reason. Like, shit like that could happen. But, I mean, I still think it possibly could because you're not going to see that happen all the time. But I think every now and again, you might see something like that where a kid gets screwed over. But also, I think maybe the, you know, the team would be able to take care of him at that point.
Starting point is 01:09:27 A scholarship maybe frees up and they get him on there. Well, I also think about a guy like Jace Howard, right? Jace Howard hasn't played a single minute, essentially. Like, he has, right? But he doesn't get any pt he's still super popular and would probably make money off of name image likeness you know you would make money off an appearance or off of like cameo or tiktok adrian nunez would be a millionaire dude yeah he'd be loaded legit how pissed would you be if you were Adrian Nunez, like, right now?
Starting point is 01:10:07 I mean, if I was him, I'd fucking quit basketball. Actually, that's actually a good point. Make some money. That's actually a good point. I mean, you know what? He's a junior, and he doesn't really get any significant playing time. Dude, I would go to the United States. I mean, obviously, it'd be hard to sacrifice, you know, being on that on that team right with i mean he's got a bomb false players i get all that
Starting point is 01:10:27 but you know if you gotta make a business decision you could what are you talking about you could quit the team and still live with them here and make tiktoks it's true i mean it yes i mean especially for him him. I don't even know how many followers he has on TikTok, but it's not a small amount. I know that. He has almost a mil. I mean, yeah. He could be making crazy money and stuff off that right now if he wanted to.
Starting point is 01:10:56 I don't even know how you make money on TikTok. You just have followers, I think. You get to be part of this creator fund thing. So they pay you for getting enough likes and getting enough... And they can do sponsorships and ads and shit. Just like Instagram and Twitter, I think. Basically, you just become an influencer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:22 I wanted to touch on one more thing on the ncaa before we hop off here which is the men's versus women's stuff um with the weight it's fucked dude like it's just to me i mean it is 100 fucked but to me it's like how dumb can you be ncaa i mean they are i just want to know like i want to interview the people who set that shit up and be like hey what do you think was gonna happen here right like it was one weight rack that like honestly a decent amount of people in america have that in their own house home i can go to meyer and get that for a hundred dollars yeah like that's legit it's a fucking joke oh my god well i love i love that that one girl whoever called it out put it on tiktok or instagram or whatever she was like yeah they responded and said you know we didn't have
Starting point is 01:12:17 enough room to uh and then there's a wide open fucking warehouse like just as much room as a menswear i mean ncaa just, they didn't even take it seriously. That's the fucked part. And I mean, hopefully now it makes some room for change. I mean, I'm just like, I want to talk to those people and be like, dude, like none of you that were planning and setting this up none of you thought like man i feel like this isn't enough i feel like it's maybe a bad pr look for us like that's what i was social media and everything like social media's been around forever and you can't fucking be smarter than that to put fucking tiny ass dumbbell rack like you watch every single team men's women's of any sport the first thing that they
Starting point is 01:13:06 do when they walk into any arena or any place every single one of them's got their phone out you know like doing the whole thing like you have to know that right so that's what my my question always is because like i don't trust that anybody's a good person and does anything out of good faith anymore they do it out of like oh what's this how's this gonna affect our business how's this gonna affect like what's in it for me what are the optics of this like how is it gonna affect everything so like you're telling me that means i that i see it as like not only are you a bad person but you're bad at your job like you you're bad at the pr part where you can't figure it out that this is going to look bad so it's just like and then they're like the uh whoever that lady was from
Starting point is 01:13:54 the ncaa she like got on there was like some heartfelt message like we fell short but like i know that she's not the one that's setting that shit up. So, whatever. Dude, you gotta be better. You just gotta reconcile that shit. It's just those continuous...
Starting point is 01:14:18 In the world of sports, in this world in general, when people fuck up, it's the half-assed apologies that i'm just like i'd rather you just didn't even apologize at that point right yeah 100 like it's brutal the half-assed apologies just make you look fucking stupid all right so michigan plays let's see, women's, what we said, Saturday at 3 and then Monday at 5, right? So, okay, so, all right.
Starting point is 01:14:51 That makes, I mean, what more can we ask for, honestly? We're in the end of March and we got Michigan something, Michigan women's basketball and Michigan men's basketball both days of a weekend you can't ask for much more there that's great you know what i was saying to it to my friend the other day i was like as bad as novembers have been for michigan fans marches have no more it's an amazing month for us novembers are like the i I mean, nothing's worse than November as a Michigan fan. You go – it's depressing because winter's coming and, like, it's getting cold,
Starting point is 01:15:34 it's getting dark, and you just know Michigan's going to lose to Ohio State by 175 points. And, you know, there's all this, and then we're going to talk about should Harbaugh be fired. It's just like the worst time of any game. He's strapped in for four months. Up comes March. All of a sudden, Juwan's making those backwards half-court shots. There you go, baby. Gets you in the mood.
Starting point is 01:16:00 I mean, you have to think like, well, here's the thing. So they've had this run of four consecutive Sweet 16s, throw a Big Ten, you know, championship in there, throw multiple Big Ten tournament championships in there from John Beeline, and then, like, then you add on the number one freaking class in the country. Dude. Hard not to be excited. Basketball school.
Starting point is 01:16:29 So, it's pretty sweet. I think we just got to, like, relish in it. Even if Michigan loses this game, it's pretty sick, dude. It's like, I don't know. It's just, it's, I'm happy to be here. I'm just happy to be here. We're all, we're all along for the ride,
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Starting point is 01:17:09 Talk about a win. Talk about the elite eight. So is it, cause usually it's, so is it Sunday, Tuesday? Cause usually it's, usually they would play still. They'd play i don't know usually they'd play thursday friday still the sweet 16 games and then saturday sunday the final or the lead eight games i want to say that um what the fuck is going on with this bracket i want to say it's it's, Sweet 16 includes the Elite Eight.
Starting point is 01:17:47 So, it's like two games in three days. And then Final Four. And then the Weekend After that is the championship. What date is the 30th? Of March? Yeah, it's like next week on Tuesday. Yeah, so Elite Eight is, yeah, Tuesday. And then Final Four is the week after
Starting point is 01:18:05 oh yeah so final four is saturday the third and then april 5th monday two days later in the championship uh yep what a crock of shit i love it man Makes my Mondays more exciting. Yeah, but I'm trying to get black out. You've got Final Four, Saturday the 3rd. Well, we've got to fucking make it there. Okay, but also, Championship Mondays. What's up with that? That's so stupid. Like, between the Super Bowl on a Sunday and the National Championship on a Monday?
Starting point is 01:18:44 Like, come on, dude. From basketball and football, come on, just schedule it until the week after, put it on a Saturday, and make everybody happy. Yeah, way more money, bars are making more money, all that shit. Well, I think that they love the viewership on a Monday because there's no chance, like, anybody will go out, right? Like, not no chance, but you know what I mean? Yes. I'm still going to go out and get wasted.
Starting point is 01:19:12 I don't know. That's just like this whole, I don't, I don't know why they did the whole schedule like this, but whatever. It's all fucked. All right. So we're taking it day by day though. We got Saturday at three Sunday at, and then let's go. So, all right.
Starting point is 01:19:27 We'll see you guys next week. Thanks for listening, and go blue. Go blue. Go blue.

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