Blue By Ninety - tailgating, recruiting, basketball and tailgating

Episode Date: February 11, 2021

WE BACK. The boys recap National Signing Day, talk football coaching staff, tailgating season on the horizon and basketball's return to the court. Crack a cold one and enjoy the show.

This is the University of Michigan. Touchdown, Michigan! The Beats of Michigan! And they've caught extra pass. And it goes for the win! The three-pointer by Jordan Poole! Down the sideline! Peebles-John!

Touchdown, Wolverines! All right, welcome back to Blue by 90. It is February 8th, Monday after the Super Bowl. The Bucs obliterated the Chiefs last night. Tom Brady, the GOAT, onto his seventh ring. What was the stat? He has more rings, Super Bowl rings, than 18 NFL teams combined.

Insane. It's an absurd stat. Didn't it say that he had more rings than any NFL team? Yeah, well, because the Patriots are second. Right, the sixth, right? Yeah, so he won the Patriots every single one that they had won. And then he got another one.

He literally just, like, spun the wheel through a dart and landed on a team and said, hey, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, you want to go to the Super Bowl? Let's do it. And he goes out and wins it. And it wasn't even a competition. He's got seven more than the Lions. I can't tell you that much. Yeah, I wish he would have landed in Detroit instead of Tampa Bay.

No shit. Exactly. Except Grock was the one who he escaped going to the Lions by faking retirement, right? Fucking Grock, yeah. Oh, God. So, I mean, that was a pretty fun game, even for it being 31-9, which is like a blowout. The second half wasn't fun, but the first half was pretty fun to watch,

I thought. It was kind of back and forth. Nice little Michigan tie-in. I was getting vibes of early in the season with the DBs grabbing on a lot of those wide receivers. Dude, there were some bad calls in that game, though. I feel like the Patriots or not the Patriots, Jesus Christ, just getting used to Brady

being on the Patriots. I feel like the Bucs got a ton of penalties called for them. There were some weak calls there. There were some phantom grabs, I thought, or phantom TI calls. So, whatever.

But, yeah, that was – I mean, still, it's just – it's still fun. I know we haven't had a whole lot of luck with being Michigan fans lately, but it's really nice to always just be able to lean back on tom brady and have him be you know our savior here um you know and of course jj mccarthy is going to turn into tom brady right dude what it's february yeah i gotta be bought in now Let's set the standard now. Set the expectations that high so that if he, if JJ's not Jay or not Tom Brady, then we'll, that'll be a disappointment.

So let's just change our name to hype train podcast. Oh my God. I hate us. I hate just us Michigan fans. Jesus Christ for the worst. All right. So I do have one question for you guys, though, and that is it's regarding Tom Brady. And I wanted, you know, I think there was some chatter on Twitter, of course, of people that are like, well, Tom Brady, the GOAT in the NFL, but he didn't do anything at Michigan.

Right? He didn't win anything. He didn't do anything at Michigan, right? He didn't win anything. He didn't do anything at Michigan, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So my question for you guys is, let's say Tom Brady, take 21-year-old Tom Brady who was at Michigan and put him in 2021? So we'll say his 1998-1999 seasons, junior and senior seasons when he was the starter. Would you call that a successful season as the quarterback of Michigan in 2021? Or is he a guy that we're we're booing off the field or or a guy that we're just

like even just disappointed in because i'll read off his stats in 1998 his junior year he had a 61 completion percentage for 2400 yards 14 tds and 10 picks and then in his senior season 61 completion percentage for 2200 yards 16 TDs six picks so nothing like crazy right in terms of stats and then Kalen you had his uh what he did in those seasons, right? Yeah, so in 1998, they lost to Notre Dame, and they lost to Ohio State. And then in 1999, they lost to Michigan State, but they beat Ohio State, and they beat Alabama in a bowl game. So were they 10-3 both years? Making me go all over sportsreference.com here. In 1999, they were 10-2.

In 98, they were 10-3. Correct. So 10 wins season. Two as the starter. He's 10-3. Correct. So, 10 wins season. Two, as the starter, he's 20 and 5, right? And he has, as a starter, what was it? In terms of interceptions, so he had 30 touchdowns and 16 interceptions. So what do you think? Is that like – put that in 2021.

Are we like, yes, that is amazing? Or is that average? Or is it like, no, super big disappointment? You wouldn't be happy with it. I mean, when I look at it, I think everything's just shaped around did you beat Ohio State and did you win your bowl game? And in the 99-2000 season, right, like, he beat Ohio State and he beat Bama in the Orange Bowl or Citrus Bowl, whichever one it was. And that's what, like, where I feel bad for Shea Patterson, I'm sure like I've said like either good or bad things about him but he gets

a lot of the flack that you know he never beat Ohio State um they didn't win a they never won a bowl game and he was a pretty good I mean he put up solid numbers yeah yeah he did and i mean there's kind of like two parts of that question right like was brady uh successful in retrospect like yeah 100 right because exactly for the reasons jack just said would he be successful in today's game that's a bit different right because the game is just so different now than it was then. And guys like Shea Patterson, who frankly have better stats than Brady did then, we consider not successful for some tradition-level reasons. It's a very interesting question. And, I mean, let's look at what Shea Patterson did against Ohio State, right?

Just on the offensive side of the ball. I mean, in 18, they scored 39, right? Not bad at all. No. And then what they scored, 23, I think, in 19 or something like that. So, that's not crazy good. But, like, I feel like you don't put those Ohio state losses on Shea Patterson, right? No, you put it on Don Brown in the defense.

So I don't know. I think that it's, it is kind of apples to oranges just because it's, I mean, these games are 20 years apart, right? So it's, it's obviously different, but I just think that it's it's kind of funny that michigan fans um michigan fans will back tom brady's career at michigan all day long but then they'll shit on shea patterson or you know or somebody like that i'm saying if Tom Brady did exactly what he did in 98, 99 here in 2021, he'd be shit on all day, but now everyone wants to back him.

Yeah. I want to ride his coattails, dude. Yeah. Riders coattails. If Tom Brady never did anything in the NFL, we'd never talk about him as like a standout Michigan guy. Right?

No. I mean, I think we could go back to like a solid season, like beating Bama and Ohio State that year. But yeah, he wouldn't get talked about the way he does now. Not even close. Yeah, even though like in 99, they finished that year ranked fifth in the AP poll. And in 98, they were seven and one in the big 10

and I believe they went they might have went to the Rose Bowl in 98 I think so played Arkansas yeah so like I mean we haven't been to a Rose Bowl here in how long right so it's like I don't know I just I had to bring that up to you guys because I thought it was kind of interesting that, and obviously Michigan fans, they have to bat when Michigan State and Ohio State fans are like bashing Michigan for, you know, oh, Tom Brady didn't do anything.

We obviously are going to back our guy, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. But it's just kind of funny because like, because of how, like you said earlier Kalen too like I think he got booed off the field his last game at Michigan um but now it's like oh he's our man Michigan man through and through we'll forget about that yeah real quick yeah exactly so I don't know I think that it's a it's a little bit just

like all about all right hey let's not have those crazy expectations like i just said for jj right like 10 and 3 if your quarterback has decent stats and it can lead you to a 10 and 3 3 year it's pretty damn good right jim harbaugh has been 10 and three, three year. It's pretty damn good. Right. Jim Harbaugh has been 10 and three, three times on his six years. So I don't know. Yeah. The key to Michigan's football, you know, outlook of a good season or a bad season. I've, I've said it before. I'll say it again. Just move Ohio state to game one and get it over with.

Cause then at least you can have a positive trajectory to the end of the season. It can change a lot. I say move the game. Move the game, and that'll change everything for Michigan. I think it will. Yeah. You're still not a veto, man. Not necessarily.

Well, you're never going to win the Big Ten if you don't veto. True. I don't beat them. True. I don't know. But still, it feels a lot better if Michigan goes undefeated in October, November, than going undefeated in September. True. Yeah. I see it as like they've given Jim Harbaugh kind of a longer trajectory

with some of the coaching coaching hires right so like because he has so many new younger coaches who've never called plays and some of those things they've bought into this plan of like okay it's going to take maybe two or three years to really like launch this whole thing so I see like this year winning maybe like eight or nine games but in the next couple of years, like that building towards something. So let me ask you, let me ask you this question though, because one thing that I, I look at these hires of that Jim Harbaugh has made is it's a little bit of a

work in progress, kind of like you just alluded to Kalen, right? Like these aren't guys that are going to come in and make his, made is it's a little bit of a work in progress kind of like you just alluded to kaylin right like these aren't guys that are going to come in and make his they may make a splash in the recruiting like we've already seen but are they going to you know get wins for michigan right away i don't know i don't think this these are hires that are just going to win now but But doesn't Jim Harbaugh kind of have to win now to win back this fan base and the trust of everybody? Yeah, I mean, I want him to win now. Don't get me wrong.

But I think that the boosters and some of the higher-up execs, he's kind of got them to buy into this longer trajectory plan. And I think they've definitely like identified the talent gap between Michigan and Ohio state. And so that's why you see them hiring like ACE recruiters and trying to really identify some of these like young up and comer type guys. And so he's putting a lot of money on, you know, some of these young guys, you know, turning diamonds, and we'll kind of see how it goes. That's kind of how I'm looking at it. Yeah, and even, I mean, as long as these guys can recruit

and bring in talent, at least you can kind of have something to fall back on and hope they just play well if you're not that great of a coach. So, I don't know. I mean, seeing four stars come into the, what, D-line and secondary brings some optimism for sure with uh newa seems like it's a whole different guy now with don brown going whether we can relate to that or not what was that about yeah let's talk about that but let's talk about that real quick tell me so

there's all this talk on twitter about don brown handcuffed Sean Nua and he was, you know, holding him back from recruiting these guys. What does that mean? You're telling me Sean Nua came to Don Brown and said, hey, I've got this four or five-star D tackle. Absolute stud. I want to recruit him. And Don Brown was like, nah, I'm good. No thanks.

What? Tell me. Like, is it good. No, thanks. What? Tell me. Like, is it a coincidence or do we actually think? I mean, I think it's just got to be a coincidence, but, but it is pretty fucking crazy. He goes from no, no four-star tackle recruits or no recruits in general. Like, I don't know which one it is, but, and then he's got two in like three days.

I mean, I don't know. Yeah. is. But and then he's got two in like three days. I mean, I don't know. Yeah, I have no idea what to make of that. And like, it's one of those things, too, where I'm like, I was I was on the podcast talking all kinds of shit about Sean. We need to get rid of him. Oh, bullshit. Yeah. But it's like, you know, well, I'll say it. I was wrong.

Right. He can obviously recruit the hell out of, you know, wherever'll say it. I was wrong, right? He can obviously recruit the hell out of, you know, wherever he's at. Maybe I'm thinking like, maybe Don Brown had some specific type of guys he was looking for to run his defense. And he was telling Nua, like, these are the kind of guys I want.

And Nua was going after those types of guys versus now maybe Mike McDonald'sdonald's like hey man you're a big polynesian dude go get big polynesian dudes or whatever you know like it makes sense to me i just i i mean i understand there's some uh scheme things right where don brown probably wanted the right guys to fit for his schemes but like i don't know many schemes where a big d tackle that can plug things up doesn't fit into right that helps to me don brown's don brown's whole thing is is having the edge guys fly around you know what helps makes uh make it easy for the edge guys to be able to fly around guys in the middle who plug the shit up you know so that's where i'm just so confused and and uh you know i i just i don't get

it i i think that i do think that don brown had some stubbornness and maybe he was just like all right the northeast is the pipeline and all that stuff um man, you would think that when you're going through the recruiting cycle and when you're watching your team play, you're like, hey, we're missing a couple things here. And it's some big dudes in the middle to help us out. You'd think he'd say, all right, Sean, go do your thing, right? But that's just weird to me. Yeah, hopefully it works out right some of these

guys and we can move into signing day and kind of talking about some of the some of the guys that sean knew i definitely hit on yeah so um so they i mean all in all this signing class was really good let's think about all the shit that michigan went through um in 2020 right two and four season harbaugh you never like it's like you don't we didn't know if he was gonna be here for how long right and then um and then all of a sudden uh you know like there's just i mean, I thought that this class was going to be a shit class. I just assumed it was going to be a shit class with everything

that was going on. Why wouldn't you? I mean, I thought that we were going to lose quite a few guys. We ended up only losing the one linebacker to Maryland, right? Pretty much. Was that Don Brown, the guy from like boston or new england or something i think so yeah yeah yeah and so yeah you lose like three quarters of your staff and still keep this uh keep this class together and at the end you land george four-star D tackle, and then you flip Ray Sean Benny on the last – on signing.

And so that puts you into a top-ten class. And so, like, with a five-star quarterback still and a four-star running back in Donovan Edwards and Xavier Worthy. And so, I mean, damn. Like, I don't want to get back on the, like, hype train. We can't resist it. But, like, this has to get you excited, right? Yeah, even, like, not even just the recruiting class.

I mean, like you said, we got – but I think Donovan Edwards was bumped up to a five-star. I could be wrong. Oh, yeah, you're right. He just did get bumped up to a five-star. But to have McCarthy, Edwards, Worthy all come in on offense, among other guys, and then, you know, addressing needs on the staff. We got some pretty solid recruiters brought in. Moe Lindquist, whatever his last name is,

is already super hot in the recruiting trail. You know, we see some four-star tackles come in on the defensive side of the ball. I mean, it seems like they're going in on the defensive side of the ball I mean it seems like they're going in the right direction to solve the problems that we saw last year so that's I'm I'm excited man I mean I'm obviously excited when I look at the grand scheme of things and I think our record will be I mean eight and four nine and three is I think it's fair to be expected but as a Michigan fan it should be expected that every year, right? So, yeah. I think that should be the low end, right?

Here we go. I mean, it's 8-4. I don't know. That's not like – you act like that's like a great season. No, I'm not. But I'm saying, like, that's what we should expect. That's realistic. That way you're not pissed off and upset every fucking year.

It is so funny, too, how I look at the schedule, like, at different times of the year. Like, after the Minnesota game, I look at the schedule. Oh, 11-1. 7-1? 8-0, maybe? Yeah. Now I look at the 2021 schedule, I'm like, shit. Michigan State and East Lansing, even though they're supposed to be –

I mean, they should be terrible, but you just never know. But then you have Washington. You've got to play Wisconsin. Obviously, Ohio State, Penn State. I mean, you're not wrong. Are they going to be bad? Are they going to be good? Like, who knows?

Yeah, as a Michigan fan, you should be constantly reminding yourself of all the question marks on this whole staff, right? I mean, all the coaches, QB battles, who's playing defense at which position, you know, who's playing running back. Like what's the O line look like? Like literally questions abound. Everywhere. And the funny thing too, is like, you look on social media now, like all of all the Michigan fans, like us included. I mean, like, we're normally part of that, part of that group. A lot of people are like, oh, yeah, 11-1, 10-2, let's go.

I'm like, guys, do you not remember what just happened last year? Yeah. I mean, I'm not doing that. I mean, I would say like a 10-2 would probably be the ceiling, right? Right. I think so. Unless J.J. McCarthy is a god. And if he

comes in and is like a complete different figure. I know, I know. I'm not saying J.J. McCarthy. Who knows, right? We don't even know who our fucking quarterbacks are. You can put a futures bet in for J.J. for Heisman. Can you? Can you already? I wouldn't be surprised. Probably.

If we could, that would be pretty amazing. Yeah, I know. I just – God, it's annoying that we're already, like, talking about this. We're already talking about this. Fucking February. But it is encouraging, I think, just to even – that the schedule came out. There's 12 games on it.

That's exciting. Right? Four home games in September, perfect for tailgating. Right spot. Very true. Big right spot. That's all I really care about. That's all that really matters.

Find the flag. Find the flag, baby. That's right, man. So, when you put the signing day that they just put together for 2021, and then you put together what mo linguist just did with landing the two four-star corners and maybe will johnson on the horizon right i don't know we'll see but uh i feel like i mean there is a little something to the hype train, right? And then you add Jerome Moore to the picture and Mike Hart and, you know, Mike McDonald, we really haven't even seen him on the recruiting trail quite yet.

But, like, damn. I mean, how do you guys feel about all those guys now moving forward with the recruiting trail? Dude, I love it. We have an excellent recruiting staff at this point like say what you will about on the field because there's a lot of question marks there for us right now but like in terms of recruiting do you sharon more i mean here's a short list of guys sharon more has been involved in recruiting dax hill jj mcc Donovan Edwards, Giovanni Elhadi,

and AJ Henning. Like those are all like some of our best players. So yeah. The fact that he got held on and moved to O-line and co-offensive coordinator. Like I'm all for it because if we can get more guys like that on the field i'll i'll pay you whatever you want yeah and i never knew that sharon moore played uh line in college at oklahoma and dude was fucking huge i was like 300 pounds dude talk about a holy shit yeah i uh i mean i'm still pretty sad about warn about Warner so now he's going to FAU

that's weird is it not like I felt like he did a pretty good job like what how is he going to go to like is that FCS no FAU is it's where Lane Kiffin used to coach man

yeah yeah it's D1 they're like they're D1 but like I don't know I guess they're D1 I guess they're just group of five right they're not they're not yeah I think so so but still like I would think Ed Warner did a pretty good job, right? So what happened? That's my comment. I don't know. Rumors flying around that maybe he said something, but who really knows? Yeah, I have no answers.

I think he was just an unfortunate product of the team trying to go in a different direction, and they had to make some changes. Good way to put it. I can see that, but it's still like upgrade. I think somehow you, somehow you let go of a guy who we all thought was pretty damn good and we should throw the bag at, and then you ended up with, well, we'll see. We'll see, obviously.

I don't know how he is, how Sean Moore is at developing an offensive line. But in terms of recruiting, I mean, Sean Moore is one of the top recruiters in the nation, right? So it'll be interesting to see if that does look like an upgrade at the end of the day and how him, Gattis, and Mike Hart work together. And then, obviously, Harbaugh as a QB coach too. Yeah, my hope was that this was all in the cards for Sharon Moore to begin with. I'm hoping that they brought him in to coach tight ends to get him more familiar with the offense

and then move him to co-OC and O-line coach. But like, I also like look at the tight ends and I'm like, I don't know, you know, like, to be fair, like Eric all was a very good blocking tight end, but he just couldn't catch. So. So maybe they bodes well for the offensive line they're gonna be really good blockers i'll take it i'll take it we don't need them to catch anything so we'll be up maybe we'll be all right but i feel like what will be interesting for me to see is how josh

gaddis still fits into this mold with all these new guys moving around, right? So is it – are we still confident in Josh Gaddis, or do we think he could, like, still get squeezed out somewhere? And I don't know. How much is still on the back of Josh Gaddis here, even with Sean Moore becoming co-OC? And with Harbaugh taking over the quarterbacks. Is Gattis getting squeezed out between the two of those guys? I mean, it almost kind of seems like it.

That's what I'd say. I think this is what they should have done initially when they brought in Gattis. They should have had him as like a co-OC, like obviously hindsight being 2020. They should have had him as like a co-sealer, like obviously hindsight being 2020. They should have put him up as a co-sealer with somebody else. And, you know, I mean, we've always kind of said we want to see Harbaugh as the QB whisperer, right? We're finally going to see him as the QB coach, it sounds like. But it seems like he's getting squeezed out from my perspective. And obviously depends a lot on what the offense does this year.

And, you know, I mean, but behind the scenes, they'll know more than us obviously with uh Sharon Moore like if he's doing more of you know the successful things than Gattis I mean we'll see what happens but the offense needs to produce yeah I'm interested to see where this offense kind of goes and where Gattis goes with Ron Bellamy stepping in as the y receivers coach right so like where what are you going to be doing exactly gaddis like maybe he's going to be relegated to more of his position at alabama right and just be like kind of a x's and o's play caller type of guy and then uh shero more will be the on the field guy. I have no idea where this is going, but I mean, it's all up in the air at this point.

So I'm interested to see what happens. Well, I'm also interested because he was in the booth to start his career and then they brought him down on the field, right. To be like more into it because couldn't get a feel. So now is, is Jerome Moore up in the booth telling him kind of what's it what place to call and gaddis is down there or is it the opposite um i don't know it'll be

interesting but i do think that it'll help a little bit i thought gaddis was brought down on the field for that motivation make sure guys are into it and things like that. Now with Mike Hart, Ron Bellamy, Schroem Moore, maybe you don't need him on the field all the time because those guys have the fire a little more than an Ed Warner does. And so I don't know, it'll be really interesting to see. I mean, the other question I have for you guys with, in terms of recruiting and like, yes, this this uh staff will surely make a splash but I mean they've got a top 10 class already right what does let's say they

move from a top 10 to a top five class does that fix Michigan's problems or are there are there problems more in-game coaching or just you know uh winning the big game or things like that I felt like it was you know recruiting is obviously huge but recruiting didn't seem to be our biggest problem we were a little bit like one notch below in Ohio State obviously right but does adding these guys and getting us to a top five class, does that put you over the edge to be competitive with Ohio State? Or do you need more in terms of in-game and culture and that shit too? 100%. Bringing in bigger recruits will 100% help you in college football,

no matter what just because i think that gives you a little bit of like you don't have to worry about as much of in-game coaching and all that like you can rely on the talent where if you're not not saying that four star guys can't get it done or even three star guys but when you've got all this five-star talent you see i mean look at johnny manziel like you get a stud like that just running around the field and making plays on his own. Like, that's not in-game coaching, right? Like, that's just a guy making plays. So I think if Michigan could compete with Ohio State recruiting, it definitely gives them a hell of a lot of better chance to start winning these games yeah I mean I think what makes it exceptionally hard with Ohio State

is like they have such a level of buy-in with their program that like it makes it hard for us to compete like I don't know if you guys realize I don't think Ohio State had any transfers this offseason so that makes it really hard when you're recruiting at such a high level and nobody transfers. So you're retaining all that talent. There's no, but no, nobody's leaving. That's like Bama, right? Like you convince the guys to stay because it's like, all right, you'll get your time and you're going to win. And people,

kids are just like, OK, deal. Great. And it's like we can recruit good talent, right? But then guys leave. And I think that's a huge problem for us. So we need to retain talent, but we also need to elevate the talent that we're recruiting. And I think we're taking those steps and they realize that. So if we do meet that threshold and start bringing in good talent

and then retaining it, then it becomes developing that talent. And if we can do all those three things, then we can compete with Ohio State. But that's kind of asking a lot. Yeah, I was going to say that's easier said than done. You just said if they can do

the exact formula to win a national championship, then they'll be good. Yeah. I mean, no, no doubt. I mean, I think they are taking the steps, but I just – I don't know. Like, to me, these guys are all proven recruiters. Are they proven developers of that talent? And I think that's the biggest difference is when Ohio State and Alabama get a five-star guy or a four-star guy,

they turn that guy into an All-American, right? And Michigan has had the All-Americans here and there, the Devin Bushes, the Jabril Peppers, but it's here and there. It's not one or two or three every year like an Ohio State has right and so that's where I think the difference is so that's where I'm I'm a little hesitant to just think okay taking Michigan from a top 10 to a top five recruiter is that really going to put them over the edge I think there's a lot more to it I definitely think the culture is there too. And then how do you get from, how do you go from a team where Dylan McCaffrey, as soon as he doesn't get the job transfers to an Alabama where Tua and

Jalen Hurts are battling it out in the freaking national championship game. And they're both NFL quarterbacks, right? Like how do you get to that level I think is and and again we're comparing Michigan to Alabama which is ridiculous but you that's the goal right so I think that's you know your Michigan's been right below that right so that's the next level to me or it's it's I mean I feel like Michigan and Penn State and the Big Ten are both right there, right? But they can't get over that hump. Penn State had one year where they did it. Michigan, 2016 should have been the year.

2018 should have been the year, but they couldn't do it. So what's going to take you over that level? And I don't know. Like you said, there's a formula out there, but it's easier said than done, for sure. Did you guys see that Alabama had the greatest recruiting class of all time? Did they really? That's such an unreal stat. The rich just get richer and richer, man. That's literally like Wall Street billionaires just raking in dough.

It's unreal. like wall street billionaires just like raking in dough it's like unreal i did see some stat i can't remember the exact stat but it was something like 35 of the top 50 uh recruits went to four teams and it was alabama ohio state clemson and, like, Oklahoma or some shit like that. Like, it was ridiculous where, like, this is the whole thing about parity in college football, right? And it's, like, it's not going to change unless these, you know, those four schools just keep, like you said, the rich get richer. It's nobody else is going anywhere else. So all these other teams have, like, one-off years,

but they are building something continuously so yeah i don't know man i don't know how you get into that level you pay more i don't know it a little bit seems it a little bit seems like all of a sudden these new guys came in and we started dropping bags those recruits those those corner commits came so fucking fast, man. Yeah, Harbaugh's like, fuck it. Do whatever we have to do. What if he did, though?

I wouldn't put it past him. He was like, fuck these guys. We can't compete. He said it, right? He came out and said, you can't compete with the cheaters, right? And he was alluding to the SEC, and I'm assuming to Ohio State as well. And so what if he was just like, you know what what i can't get it done doing it the clean way fuck it let's go pay him love it i don't care i don't give two shits i want to see harbaugh out there with some happy meals talking to these recruits man do whatever it takes there you go what we really need to do

is we need to get a chick-fil-a in ann arbor and then get whatever the equivalent of a chick-fil-a happy meal and then recruits just be flowing in i'll be beautiful i love it i love it love it um so what else do we want to touch on here so the schedule is out we talked about uh uh the commits and the uh recruiting class um we talked about some of these coaches what's the let me ask you this what's one coach if you had to pick one coach that you're very excited for to see develop guys recruit on field all that stuff who's your favorite for like you think he's going to be the the shining star I mean gotta be Mo right as far as recruiting I'm excited to see what he can do you know if

he can continue what he's doing but I mean the obvious number one after that for me would be Mike McDonald what's he gonna do you know how's the defense gonna look this year I think that's an awesome answer because I'm I'm really curious for Mike McDonald too but I'm gonna go with Jim Harbaugh just because QB's most important position on the field Jim Harbaugh this is your time to shine and like literally silence the naysayers and turn one of these guys into like literally the next Andrew Luck so let's go for that no I'm all in on that too I'm all in I I think I think both of those are good answers because how does Jim Harbaugh make a difference right he's like we like you said he how is he gonna

come in and put these these QBs that you've got the talent, obviously, in that QB room, there's got to be one of them that can get the job done, right? And play at least – because all we've said is you need an above, a little bit above average QB, right? Shea Patterson was – he was there. He was pretty much there. If you can take one of those guys to a little bit of the next level

whether it's k jj joe dan valari da da da da da and valari baby i don't know we'll see but i gotta respond to linda on twitter i know linda why dan valari um but also i am i'm very intrigued by mike mcdonald what kind of defense is he i mean that's going to be all the talk is what kind of defense is he going to come in and run how does he use the guys that he has um how does he prepare like i mean are we running man all the time again are we going to run a zone are we blitzing non-stop um you know what's what's going on there i i would love to to know what is what how he's going to handle all that yeah i mean if rumors are anything i did the ravens i think they ran like a 4-3

so maybe look for something like that i wouldn't i, I, I want, I want a little bit of change, right? I think I want something, something changed. So we'll see how that goes, but I don't, I don't want him to come in and blow it, the whole thing up. But I also just don't want to see, I love blitzing, but I don't want to see the same exact thing. So we'll see how that goes. So all right. On to basketball, though, for a little bit here. You know, thank God.

Give it, what, five days left, six days left, and we're back to finally seeing Michigan basketball. It's been three weeks now. It's felt like an eternity. So, wait, I know that they postponed the game, but have they announced that they're coming back and playing? Like what's going on there? It sounds like they're on track for at Wisconsin on Sunday, the 14th, right?

Yes, yes. So they ended up postponing the Illinois game, which is on Thursday. Right. But they are going to they are coming back and they're going to play against Wisconsin. So they yeah, they started. They started like conditioning, individual conditioning or something this past week. I think it was like Wednesday or Thursday they started that. No team – nothing team-wise yet, but they're going to start team practices, I believe, this week so that they can, like, ramp up and get ready for Sunday against Wisconsin. So, yeah, so hopefully that goes well.

Are they going to reschedule any of these games? I don't know if you've heard about that or not i haven't heard anything on reschedule but i want to ask you guys thoughts should they reschedule like if michigan's on pace if they if there's no requirement for them to win the big 10 to if they don't have to reschedule these games, does it make sense to just like pile back in their schedule, play a shit ton of games, exhaust this team, and like right before a Big Ten tournament or an NCAA tournament? I'm okay with – obviously I would love to play MSU at Chrysler,

but I'm okay with just like missing out on some games rather than them just like trying to plug in these games every little chance they get and like double up double up double up and then you're you're maybe in a bad spot with injuries exhaustion like you know you don't have fresh legs going into tournament time all that Yeah, with the way Michigan's playing right now, there's no way, no reason for them to add in games. Now, let's say they go on a huge losing streak and they need to get their win percentage up, then I'd say, all right, do whatever they have to do.

But I don't think that they'd be searching to go out and reschedule these games unless they absolutely had to to, like, win the conference or something like that. Yeah the way you put it i'm like that makes total sense um i don't want them to be tired out before going into the tournament so right yeah i i just i i mean everyone's like i i saw aunt right put it out there brendan quinn put some stuff out there of like how they could uh how they could make things up and and like brendan quinn even put something out there like to end the season you go back to back days against msu one in one in ann arbor one in east lansing i'm like why you know like yeah we want – I want to see basketball,

Michigan basketball as much as possible. But, like, if the goal is to win the Big Ten and then go out and if they are playing a Big Ten tournament, go out, win that, and win an NCAA tournament, I don't give a shit about making up these extra games. Like, you know, I go back to a big 10 football too. They didn't, they weren't making up games for big time football and they put Ohio state as the, uh, the big 10 champs. So why should they treat Michigan any different? You know?

Yeah. I mean, I'm, I'm with you. I don't have a lot to say, but yeah, I know. I know. I'm just, I am very excited to see, to watch them come back here. It's it feels I'm just hoping what I'm super scared of is like, will they? Will they like come out not ready again? You know, I'm pretty scared. Do you think that they're going to come out just as hot or are they going to come out in a little bit of a slump I I think they'll pick up right because I mean they they had a break before right where they shut down for a little bit they had to postpone a couple games and came back maybe it's just like one game against Penn State yeah it was the other

teams yeah but I think it was only just one game at a time yeah I'd like to think and hope that there's going to come back right where they left off but i mean there's always that chance when you take this much time off and other teams have been playing that you know there's a little bit of uh um i don't know what you want to call it but you know they're going to slow down a little bit so i'm hoping for the best but i wouldn't be shocked if they have a bad game or two coming out. Yeah. I think, you know, what, what do you call it? Like for a boxer, like ring rust, right? Like I think they'll have a little bit of that, but not like crazy.

So I think they'll still be good and they'll still be competitive, but maybe expect a little bit of that kind of, you know, time off. Yeah. I mean, like you know, time off. Yeah. I mean, like you said, it's just them getting their legs back, getting back into game shape, A, and then just getting back into a rhythm, right, of shooting those shots in game time. I don't know what they were doing, like, during this time off.

There's no way they were just, like, sitting at home, right? Like, they were probably getting shots up somewhere, whether it was at brycer or somewhere else but um yeah like i would hope that they would be so hopefully that uh hopefully that that that they can get into it quicker than usual but i also don't like them coming from three weeks off in first game is on the road and the coal center at wisconsin like yeah tough game to come back for yeah i mean would it have been better to come back against illinois right i mean it's like two tough games you either play a top 10 team at home or you play a not so great team but it's at wisconsin where they are you know normally they win like 95 of their games at home right like i can see that like a minnesota game like we blew them out at chrysler

but then we go to minnesota and they take care of business i don't know yeah we'll see hopefully hopefully they can get it together damn i'm just i'm just happy for them to be back i've felt honestly i feel like this is a weird thing to say I've just felt a little off since they've been since they've been not playing like life is not complete you know yeah it feels like empty right like I'm just like where's the basketball it's just like asking myself every day it's like like, it's sad, right? Like, I feel like I'm like, holy shit, am I really that dependent on Michigan athletics? But it does fulfill some,

it's something to look forward to twice a week. You know, it makes the week go by quicker at work. Yeah. All right. Well, that's all I've got. I i don't know you guys got anything else to touch on here i do i do want to bring up um we just saw this tweet ben van summeren six what is he i don't know how tall he is but 250 with a 42 and a half inch vertical i just saw him he just slid in our instagram dms and was like, can you guys post this or something like that?

Well, it was the guy from Wolverine Sports TV, Syvert. Oh, yeah. He sent it to us asking, like, I guess Ben Wallace put it up, so I put it up, and then he shared it. But I hit him up. I was like, hey, man, we got to get you on the pod sometime. He could have been the wide receiver one that we were missing with Nico Collins, man.

No shit. Let him jump for it. Throw it up to the big one. Talk about matchup nightmare. Holy crap. 42.5-inch vertical at 250 pounds. That's insane. Put him a tight end.

Put him a tight end. You know what we haven't done in a long time is a 0-90. Let's go for it. All right. I don't really have any hot takes, but I'll think of one on the fly. We know you're good for it. All right. I've got one. I've got one.

All right. I'll get you. Do you want me to – do you want to go first or do you want to go last? Yeah, let's – I'll go whenever. He said most definitely. he said most definitely he said most definitely batman batman sumer coming on the pod soon he's trying to help his draft stock it sounds like so hey you know as as most people know you come on blue by nine your draft stock is going up up up

just like the stocks to the moon, baby. Dog coin. Dog coin. Is it doge? I have no idea. I call it doggy coin. That's even better, dude. To the fucking moon.

Oh my goodness. Alright, who's going? I think you should start us off. You got something here get me in the get my vibes going the right direction all right all right jalen you're zero to 90 starts now okay we did not touch on this but this is the most important college football news of your entire life college football for the for the the video game is coming back by whatever system that you need i don't care what it is um my what i want from that i want it to like consume my entire life so i'm like come up with an app where it like calls me and i have to like talk to recruits at work and be like yo come to my school my school, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Like this is the greatest shit you've ever been to, whatever. I want to sell people to my game, Blue by 90. Dude, I like that. What I hope for the most for this game is they don't change really anything from 14. It just has updated rosters better graphics um make sure road to glory is like sweet like it was and don't turn it into mad they turn into mad and i'll be fucking pissed yeah no don't turn it in man but way to bring that up that is huge news that we did not touch on i also here's what i also want and i actually saw this uh i saw a couple former michigan players

tweeting about it like we need well i mean what was it 2014 was the last one right that i mean i know first of all again once again everything's coming up michigan except for actually wins like somehow it comes back to michigan Michigan every time of Denard on the cover. But first of all, it doesn't seem like it's been seven years. Like that is a long time. Pretty wild. But I want to see like the 2016 team. Yeah.

2016 Michigan back on NCAA would be dominant, dude. Ooh. Yeah, just like 2K has the like old teams. Yeah, that would be dominant dude oh yeah just like uh 2k has the um the like old teams yeah that'd be like i would love to watch i would love to see if they like could have at least like a version of those teams for the last seven years on there but i think they did say they were like oh we we they aren't going to have anything like the real teams because they're trying to avoid obviously another lawsuit or something like that and ultimately like when you're doing road to glory to like the the you know all the players are completely different than the actual players so like in the grand scheme of things like whatever i think everybody's gonna be so happy that it's

back but yeah they can bring back like the 16 michigan wolverines team or, like, fucking all those Oklahoma Sooners teams that were, like, dominant for the past, like, three years with, like, Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurts, Baker Mayfield, I mean, that would be really cool. Because it sounds like it's not going to be out until, like, 2022, 2023. Yeah. Yeah. Still, that would be sweet. Yeah, Kyler Murray would be a fucking cheat code.

It would be like Mike Vick in 04. What do you think? Is Jay Patterson sweet on that game like Johnny Manziel? Or what do we think? I think he's like a 93 overall. 93? Yeah. That's pretty solid.

I'd say that's fair. Shit. That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, shit. That would be legit. So, all right. I'm ready for um so all right i'm ready for mine too i'm ready for mine that was a good one that was a really good okay that we didn't touch on that all right bro you're zero to 90 starts now all right here's my prediction for michigan basketball

they're coming back everyone is going to be saying exactly what we just said where we were saying oh are they going into a slump they're going to come back slow they may come back slow for a half I think they pick right back up after that they pound it to Hunter Dickinson Nate Reavers isn't going to do shit against Hunter Dickinson so it's same same outcome as the first one. They're going to dominate Wisconsin. Here's my bold prediction. I still think that Michigan ends the regular season

with one loss in the Big Ten. They are going undefeated for the rest of the time, even with the time off. They've been licking their chops trying to get back on the court. They're ready to go juwan has been having them do they've been they've been shoveling the driveway you know and getting shots up uh even in the snow uh they've been out at the uh in the im buildings and stuff like that so under one loss big 10 champss, Michigan basketball, basketball school.

Shirt's coming soon. I like that. I saw how you, Mitch, teased. Got on it. They've got their basketball school hoodies and shirts out. He didn't throw that out there. I like – shit, dude, I'd love to see Hunter Dickinson come out and kind of like dominate like he did in the beginning of the year.

Michigan's playing well, so like whatever. If he doesn't, like, you know, that's okay too. But I'd kind of like to see him bounce back to put up some numbers like he did early on. I'd love to see him wearing a big Dickinson energy sweatshirt too. That'd be amazing. He's wearing it underneath the jersey. Like hoodie mellow Hoodie Hunter.

I feel like the secret's out on him a little bit, so he gets guarded pretty well. I want to see him ball out. That's true. All right, Jack, you going to finish this up here? We'll see what I got. Your zero to 90 starts now all right i'm relying on uh dr fauci here sounds like we might get herd immunity by the end of the summer early fall

which means tail tailgating might be able to be back in full force that's what i'm hoping for it's my hot take that's what i'm going to believe in that we're going to be back uh and be able to tailgate maybe not as crazy as normal but we'll still be able to have a good time and people on the golf course will be fun uh so that's what I'm hoping for oh we're getting crazy I'm just thinking about tailgating 24 7 all year long I've been it's let's let's be honest here it's February I have thought about tailgating way too much over the past couple of weeks here. The schedule came out, like you said, it was four games in September and I'm just like, all right, well, let's start planning now, I guess.

Dude, I cannot wait. I'm going to get that. I'm getting that flag made. I'm going to hang it in the basement and then we'll bring it out to tailgates and you people just find the flag and we'll uh be having a grand old time perfect oh i cannot wait to have listeners come out and party with us that's gonna be honestly so much fun because i think it's just gonna be it's gonna be people coming from all over wearing shirts and shit it'll be it'll be awesome well it's going to be even better than that because they're really just going to show up and be like yeah you guys are full of shit we're like yeah that's right they're going to show and be like these are the fucking

losers i've been listening to this entire time oh my god it's 9 15 rose passed out on the fucking grass on the golf course they may not know shit about sports but they sure like to drink that's what this podcast is all about right oh man all right you got me pumped up now i'll'll go start planning the tailgates now. Perfect. All right. Sounds good. Well, that was our show for today. We will get this out here pretty soon. And, you know, hopefully we'll have some feedback after Sunday to one o'clock game on Sunday. Right. For Michigan. So there's like I don't know what are what we can watch other college football obviously but um like or college basketball I mean but uh there's like no football on anymore uh NFL is done like I need Michigan basketball back so one o'clock Sunday, maybe we'll do a post-game podcast

or something like that. We'll see. But, yeah, follow us at Blue by 90 on Twitter and Instagram and Facebook, at Blue by 90 Podcast on YouTube as well. Follow Shield Tweets. Follow Shield Tweets on Twitter. Put out some fire tweets. We'll see. I don't tweet much but

when i do i like to think it's pretty uh pretty decent yeah yeah well yeah for sure you're really good at it i'm learning the twitter sphere and the twitter sphere all right we'll see you guys next time