Blue By Ninety - The future of Michigan Football pt. 2

Episode Date: December 10, 2020

Will Harbaugh be back? If not, who will be Michigan's HC in 2021? Jack has some conspiracy theories as to what he thinks is happening. Enjoy some live commentary from the boys during the Michigan vs. Toledo basketball game. Crack a cold one and enjoy the show. 

This is the University of Michigan. Touchdown, Michigan! This is the University of Michigan! And they've caught extra pass. And it goes to the wind! The three-pointer! By Jordan Poole! Down the sideline!

Peebles jumps! Touchdown, Wolverines! All right, welcome back to Blue by 90. I am Justin with Jack and Kalen, of course, and it is Michigan-Ohio State Week. Just kidding. Oh, wait. No, it is not, actually. So, the game is canceled um yeah this is tough we are actually you know what we're going to turn this into positive vibes because the game is canceled but we are recording this during the michigan basketball game versus toledo so we'll give you guys live updates and analysis because we are basketball experts so

um caitlin just told me that every time he sees somebody miss a shot he just thinks that they suck forever so pretty much i mean that's how that's how you watch basketball right i mean so yeah so how's my uh so i did just go for i just got back from a run. How is my tomato face looking? Not bad. Looks like kind of a tan. Oh, perfect. Yeah. Bronze God. Yeah. A little bit more like a, uh, what are, uh, what are pennies made out of?

Copper tan. We'll give you a copper tan. All right. That's fine. Um, what are those like copper tone socks that Brett Favre advertises? We got that weird, wrinkly old man tan. Oh, perfect. Perfect.

Thank you. You are great at giving compliments. Hey, man, two weeks, I'll be in Florida. I'll come back red as a fucking tomato, that's for sure. I do not can well. I'm either going to come back looking like this, or I'm going to come back red. There's no in between. I'm a little concerned for you well actually i'm concerned for heather and whoever else uh is around you the first time you take off your shirt down in florida

that is gonna be pasty i tell you people are gonna think they're uh there's a beached whale out there man there's gonna be shining and gleaming people think it's like uh ninth wonder of the world or eighth wonder of the world whatever that is whichever number we're at you just got to uh put that zinc on your nose and uh just i'll have my i'll have my bucket hat i'll be i'll be totally covered i love how we're all like mid-20s yet we're old men somehow too yeah we're not even mid-20s anymore we're like late to mid-20s yeah 28 fuck yeah older shit all right so um let's get into anyway let's move on from talking about our old wrinkly bodies and talk about some michigan football and basketball so currently we'll give you the update uh currently it is michigan's up 15-12 against Toledo with 12-30 left.

So Austin Davis, I think, already has 10 points. Just killing it. So, I mean, is there a controversy at the center position between Hunter Dickinson and Austin Davis? Maybe. Maybe. You know what I think they could do? Play two bigs out there. Put them both out

there see what happens yeah i would hate it sometimes i mean who who guards who guards the second guy oh you know so i also want to give a shout out to naz hillman on the women's basketball team just absolutely killing it she has uh i think over 20 points in every game except for one she's got a double double in like four out of five games or something already like legitimate front runner for big 10 player of the year on the women's side maybe national player of the year so got to get a love give a little love to the women's team as well um they're five and out today as well and they go into conference play i think either this weekend or next week so um you do love to see it so all right boys so let's talk about michigan ohio state a little bit so obviously yesterday um today we're

recording this on wednesday during the basketball game but yesterday on tuesday they canceled the game what was your immediate like reaction when you when we were texting about it and we saw that it was canceled? Honestly, it was just like, wow. What's going to happen with Ohio State? Are they going to be able to win the championship, make it to the playoff? And honestly, I was a little disappointed. I was kind of hoping to see Dan Valari out there. I didn't think we had a chance at winning, but I wanted to see just him get some playing time and see what he looks like on the field.

Yeah, I was feeling like relief i was like oh thank god oh we don't have to play him i mean the the hang 100 comment rang very true to me this year so i was glad to not see that yeah i i mean i so i put it out on like, to see if people were relieved or sad about it. A lot of people said both, like, sad that the game's not there, but also, like, it's okay that we don't have to watch them actually put up 100 points. I felt kind of the same way. A little bit just indifferent. Like, this year is so stupid, man. It's just like, all right. Like, anything that happens to, like, in 2020 now, especially with, like, regards to Michigan football, it's just like all right like anything that happens to me like in 2020 now

especially with like regards to michigan football it's like whatever you know we're just playing we're just looking forward to 2021 when things are real again so um yeah it it sucks um but i i do think well honestly and we can get into this a little bit too. I said it a few weeks ago, I think. The fact that these two games, and there's obviously been a ton that's come out about Jim Harbaugh in the last couple days. So we'll get into that for sure. I think them not playing these two games, Maryland and Ohio State, and getting embarrassed on the national level like week after week saved Jim Harbaugh's job every week that they went out there and got embarrassed by an own five Penn State or Michigan State or even having to go to overtime with Rutgers like it was a bad look for Jim Harbaugh. And so if they would have still gone out there and done and played this game and they actually get beat by 50, how do you extend Jim Harbaugh? I mean, I don't understand

how they're, I still have a theory that, that, that this whole extension isn't even happening. It just doesn't make any sense to me the way it's going right now, but I'll save, I'll, I'll save that conspiracy theory for, for later. But honestly, I think it hurts him more than anything. I think Maryland, if they would have played Maryland, that could have been a team they could have competed with. Maybe, maybe, you know, and maybe they have a shot. But I don't know. I mean, he had such a bad season regardless of the last two games,

if he lost or not. I guess I can't believe that if he does get extended, I can't believe it's actually gonna it's actually gonna happen now can he can reject the extension correct like i mean yeah he doesn't have to sign it for sure like he could go to the nfl he could still just be like i'm done i mean i guess i don't i don't really see him just calling it quits but i'm just saying that's a possibility right yeah i mean that's for sure possibility i i wouldn't i don't think it's that doubtful that he's just like these fans hate me like i i don't if he doesn't think he can truly turn this program around in the next year

maybe two like he might be like all right man i did it i tried it this is uh uh you know 10 wins and he probably reached the ceiling it honestly in 2016 like because ohio state's so freaking good that going to ot with ohio state may be michigan ceiling right low-key like i i mean so he may be like dude we did everything we could it's that's a hard thing to say and a hard thing like a hard thing to swallow but it's i mean ohio state's that good zach shaw put out a uh a tweet the other day that he said that um since he graduated high school which was 2012 ohio state is 73 and 5 in the big 10 five losses in eight years dude so i i like i understand if he's like dude we did all we could and still came up short so um yeah i mean he gets hate i hate on him because of a lot of different things but like

i mean he took him to the height of of Michigan football for the past 20 years. That's no doubt. So it's just – I just – so what I don't understand from Ward Manuel's perspective is if you are offering him an extension now after this absolute debacle of a season, why was that that if you still think he's the guy after all the shit that they've been through uh in 2020 why was he not the guy before the season why why is there no extension offered before the season if if if even if he fucks up this season as much as they possibly could and he's still the guy he did why not before which he did right why wouldn't you do this in the spring in the summer in the fall when we're waiting for this whole season to go while the big 12 in sec is playing there's so many opportunities

to do it and now you're going to try and do it during michigan ohio state week what i mean do you think like that it was in the works kind of uh you know coming down the pipeline until covid hit at which really threw the whole school and financials off the rails that's what it sounded like right but still i mean i don't know i don't i don't know i'm speechless yeah i mean yeah i do think definitely like without covid he probably gets an extension in march or in the off season spring summer sometime for sure um i think financially ward manual is like holy shit we are in so much debt now or something you know he's like we don't have any cash flow so it's a bad look when we

talked about this before it's a really bad look when he's asking other people to take pay cuts for him to make this offer um and i don't know maybe the offer before was not a pay cut for harbaugh maybe it was you know the same money or close to it um but still it's just like okay i don't know they couldn't have had the timing any worse now you're and now like it sounds like after the uh after the press conference was ward and harbaugh yesterday that they aren't going to talk about this until after the season which is december 19th which is importantly after signing, which is two or three days after signing day. Like we're watching. I don't know if you guys saw, but Brandon Jennings, who is our stud four star linebacker, who Bryce marriage said is an absolute freak show and should probably be a five star.

He flipped to Maryland today. So, well, not officially, but that was on rivals. Yeah, he was crystal ball flipped, and it was a seven high or something. So, like, between him and Xavier Worthy, we're losing recruits, like, daily. And who was the guy that went to Missouri who was projected to Michigan until very recently? Yeah, Isaiah Thompson, I think it was. Isaac Thompson. Yeah.

Four-star safety? Yeah, stud. So, like, you are watching this unravel before your eyes right now. And Ward and Jim and everybody else are just kind of sitting in the background like, yeah, we're just going to kind of ride it out. It's like, what are you doing? Why? Like, the thing for me is they watch this we watch this whole thing happen at michigan state less than a year ago d'antonio the whole thing they like kind of screwed themselves

and shot themselves in the foot by letting d'antonio go too late and then by the time they were um you know looking for a coach everyone else was taken and then it had to land with Mel Tucker. And so, like, I just don't understand. If Harbaugh's your guy, go with him. Figure it out now. If he's not, then we better get talking to Matt Campbell immediately. That's my theory, man. I think that they've already talked to another coach.

I'm assuming Matt Campbell. They've got some sort of deal with him that they're already talked to another coach, I'm assuming Matt Campbell. They've got some sort of deal with him that they're not going to announce anything, and they're just trying to postpone any sort of announcement until after the 19th, which is after the Big 12 title game, correct? Or is that this weekend? No, it is the 19th, yeah. The 19th. So, I mean, that would be the only thing that would make me – that would make all – that would make this all make sense.

Because otherwise I'm like, if you're extending him, what – that doesn't help you by waiting until after National Signing Day to do anything. Why wouldn't you just do it right now? It literally makes zero fucking sense. That's why I believe there has to be something else going on behind the scenes harbaugh's not coming back next year they they've got to either be talking to other coaches or have their guy figured out and they maybe struck some sort of deal with them to take away any distractions from their current team but i i just the way it's all playing out and the way they have not talk about it or say they're not going to talk about it till after the season's over just makes zero fucking sense to me yeah that's it's

very true i it's funny because i almost haven't even like given this any thought i'm just like okay whatever like but now that i'm thinking about it that's super fucking weird to just be like he's cut he has a contract but we're not talking about it until after the recruit like what what are you doing like even like okay maybe they're i'm sure that they're talking to recruits behind the scenes and letting them know the situation right um you know but like it just so what this does now, so they come out for a, a, um, a press conference yesterday and they say, Oh, well not till the 19th, 18th or 19th or whatever. So now all you do is you create another 10 days and every in storylines and headlines and digging

by the media and all this stuff for another 10 days. And it just like makes it all bad. It's just it's a PR nightmare and it doesn't need to be. It doesn't need to be. It's just nothing but uncertainty for the recruits. And it's better for them to know at least Harbaugh is going to be there or he's not going to be there. Then having it be like, is he going to be there? Is he not? To keep them guessing is not it's not fair to them. And you're not helping yourself by any means doing that. Yeah, it's a solid decision made to have any sort of progress here. Like he would know this, right? Like he would come out and be like, hey, I'm coming back. Don Brown is fired.

This is what we're doing, right? And he would make all of those questions answered like right out the gate to make – put everybody at ease at least somewhat. So the fact that he's not does make you go like, okay, what the hell is going on here? And the thing for me is it's not even on Jim. Like I'm like word manual. where the fuck are you at? You're on AD. Right, because Jim doesn't even know his future, at least from the outside looking in. It doesn't seem like he does.

I mean, Ward Manuel's got to come out and fucking do something. I'd rather have him sign Harbaugh now. Well, actually, let me ask you guys this. Would you rather have him sign harbaugh now and and then everybody just knows what's going on or wait until the 19th or after to figure out if he's coming back or not good question so in that case i mean maybe we move we lose like another few recruits um but you get matt campbell and he can sign a couple late because signing day is there you don't have to sign that day right like it's just the beginning

you can sign so it's so it's not like these guys have to these kids have to make a decision um on signing day they may um delay their decision but um yeah that that that's interesting i mean i still i think i would like to see matt campbell i if it is matt campbell if it's not matt campbell i i think i'm still with harbaugh because um i mean i i would probably take fickle too um but i i don't know i uh yeah i'd probably take campbell on the 19th because he could still bring, you know, some Iowa State, you know, transfers or figure his whole thing out. If we're hiring Matt Campbell, the class changes anyway, right? The recruiting class is going to change anyway.

He might see some guys as a different talent level than what Jim and you know his guys have seen so yeah yeah I mean it's tough because I hate losing recruits and you know that you would at that stage um but I'm I'm just like Jim you you had your time and you kind of you've lost your touch. So it's time for someone else. So I would I would lose them. From my perspective, I mean, it looks like. I mean, these guys are flipping to other schools, right? Like it looks like Harbaugh's kind of had these recruits. And my feeling is with them looking at the program with all this uncertainty and probably other coaches are getting in their head.

They're like, hey, you don't even know who your coach is going to be. If you liked Harbaugh, he's probably not going to be there next year. And he's getting in their heads and these, these players are flipping man. So, I mean, if these kids are trying to play for Harbaugh and I mean,

I'm assuming he's doing a lot of, a lot of the recruiting for him, sign him, just extend him, at least keep the recruits there for now. And then, you know, if there is a buyout clause or whatever,'re working through with the contract here i mean then you

can get rid of them after a year i know nate was texting us about it and uh kind of threw that out there as like something that could happen but i mean now you're you're losing um brandon jennings isaac thompson possibly xavier worthy like i mean these are all four-star guys right like i don't know you go you all of a sudden go from the eighth uh in the nation to probably like 20 something true yeah you don't want to be in like a rich rod situation right where like you might bring in a coach who's who knows what he wants to do but when you lose so many players it makes it that much more difficult right yeah yeah i mean can we all just take a moment to thank jj mccarthy because he is finally keeping single i mean think about how many how many five

star qbs would after a two and four season after when you don't even know who your head coach is going to be it's it's looking like a shit show and five-star qb stud recruiter everything like everything you want out of a kid and he's like yep go blue i'm signing no matter what i mean what a freaking baller are you kidding me dude how many 17 year olds are even that mature literally thank god for jj man i got nothing else to say on that i mean he's literally single-handedly keeping these recruits together i mean like uh i think we were talking to bryce marriage about it and he was like yeah he organized that entire visit for these guys come up here during a dead period like he's doing it himself so i mean i think all the guys that he could get his hands on and and influence enough

i think they're gonna stick around just because of jj so thanks to him for fucking doing that but uh it's good to have that kind of leader in the recruiting class i think it's nothing but positives for uh michigan moving forward having him around yeah i absolutely because i think that if all this is going down you know if it's if it's uh jennings that's that's uh decommitting that's you know a problem but if it were jj decommitting everybody's decommitting we're right exactly so he is like legit keeping this thing hanging on by a fucking thread so you think he'll be our uh starter next year very well could be dude i mean i think i think i think kate is but, I mean, JJ is the real deal. So, I mean. Oh, well, hold up now. We say that every QB.

I know. It's like, how are they going to screw up JJ, right? I don't know. I don't even want to think about that. I don't. I truly don't. Because it, like, makes me sad to think about the fact that we could have another five-star QB come in who is a God and he like may not do anything for us.

The promising thing is his numbers are better in high school than Shane Morris's were. Yeah. I mean, he's watching him at IMG. Like IMG is not Warren D d lasalle you know like warren d lasalle is a great program and there's some good football in michigan img is another level so but even if it was i know that uh shane morris he had a lot of question marks in high school about his accuracy and you know you know some other things but you haven't heard anything about mccarthy any any question marks around him so that that jane boris i i watched him in high school

um he he was similar to joe milton a little bit he had a fucking cannon oh yeah and everyone's like oh six foot three guy you know has a. Like, he had the body, absolutely. But he just didn't have it in him. And so that's why I think J.J. is, of course, we're just going to say it. J.J. is different, of course. He's the guy. You know, next year is our year, obviously. 2021.

Oh, shit. I'm going to kill myself. All right. All right. Score update for michigan basketball it is uh 35 21 michigan over toledo right now with 348 left to go in the first uh let's see stat stat wise we got austin davis still with 10 livers with eight fronds with five your boy frond i saw him hit a three hey let's go money dude one for one from three livers is one for two from three damn mike smith over two from three um hunter dickinson has four shaundi is four so uh smith has four as well so we're

spreading it around again i mean nobody thought austin davis would just get 10 points in the first five minutes but we'll take it so um the one thing i'm kind of worried about michigan basketball right now um and i want to get into basketball after this um but like actually i'll wait for it i'll wait for it i want to talk about ohio state and if you think they should be in the big 10 title game right now oh yes but big 10 stick to your guns man stick to your guns either you should have made a better rule and you know said like if you personally have to cancel cancel games where you can't get to six, then you're out. But if other teams have to cancel and that's what's holding you back, then you can still get in.

So I think the Big Ten fucked up on that rule. I do believe they should be in the Big Ten title game because it's good for the Big Ten. I don't know, man. I think the Big Ten, as far as a conference, you know, falling back on that rule just makes them look soft. And I think they should have just been better about planning for it. But I do think Ohio State should be in the Big Ten title game.

Dude, they're a great team. I mean, there's no question. So, yeah, they 100% deserve it. Big Ten, yeah, they just, I mean, surprise mean surprise surprise the big corporate entity made a shitty decision you know that's so true it's so true and like so okay to me yes ohio state is far and away the best team in the big 10 right um i honestly think that if they played it indiana again they'd probably beat them by three scores. Yeah.

And so Indiana had to play that game pretty much perfectly and got three picks from Justin Fields, who's thrown one like the rest of his whole fucking career. So like without that, they yeah, they and they didn't even score on those, but they stopped Ohio State from scoring. So, I don't know. I, yes, think that Ohio State is the best team, and they deserve to go. But also, there's just something about the tweet that went out like, yes, the Big Ten is bending the rules for Ohio State. That just irks me, man. Like that just as a Michigan fan, as the rest of the big 10 fan, you should just be like, that shouldn't be a tweet that goes out

from an official like media member. Right. Um, like bending the rules for Ohio state. That just, oh, that just doesn't sit right in my stomach. Nothing new. Nothing new, right? To be fair, to be fair, I do think if it was any other Big Ten team in the same situation, I think they would bend the rules as well. I know we all like – we're Michigan fans. We like to root against Ohio State. But I do believe that if it was Indiana in this – if Indiana was undefeated, looked unstoppable, I think the same thing would happen. Same thing with Northwestern. Same thing with Wisconsin or whoever,

Wisconsin, whoever I think, I think they would make that decision for anybody just to get a big 10 conference team in the playoff. Yeah. I, I agree with that for sure, because it's all about money.

And if, if the big 10 gets a team in the playoff, it's like $100 million or not. I don't know what it is, but it's a lot of money for the conference. Significant amount. So they need to have a team in the playoff. So they would have done it. And to be honest, here's the thing,

and this hurt, they would be so happy to do that for Michigan. They would be so happy because the number of viewers and everything else that Michigan was in that situation would be off the charts. So, like, yes, I get bitter about the Big Ten, like giving, you know, Ohio State preferential treatment. treatment um but honestly if the ohio state's looking at it for or sorry if the big 10 is looking at it from a financial standpoint the big 10 would love to have michigan be great and michigan be uh you know in the college football playoff winning the big 10 because it's such a big brand such a big fan base um they would love nothing more than that. Yeah, because then you've got two powerhouses, legendary programs in the Big Ten. It makes the game even bigger. It makes viewership for everything bigger because it's leading up to this final – this Big Ten title game before the Big Ten title game. Michigan just needs to be good again.

While we're talking about Ohio State, Michigan, Ohio State, all this stuff, Did you guys see that tweet that Ohio State football put out? The, like, trailer? Yeah. I didn't see it. Oh, you didn't see it? Kalen, watch this right now. Get on Twitter. Oh, damn.

Look at Ohio State football. Or search Ohio State football. Look at the trailer they put out. We'll talk about it while you're kind of watching it. Okay. Yeah. Man. I watched that, and i was just like you you became an ohio state fan like in the moment i've always kind of been teetering man but i'm i'm i'm serious guys i i've thought about it

just thinking about the way michigan football does things and just how frustrating it is for us. Have you ever thought of, you know, jumping ship? I know, I know, I know the, I know that, you know,

you jump ship, you can't ever go back. So I haven't done it. I haven't done it, but man, I would, the way I've talked about a million times before, the way Ohio city football does things,

the, just the hype behind it. Like, it seems like just how prepared they are like the videos they put up on social media it looks like it's like the perfect thing that i want to see from college football is everything i love like i love everything that they do but i still hate them so much because michigan just can't it isn't there but like i grew up loving this michigan team but it's so fucking frustrating to be a fan for them. I 100% get where you're coming from.

Because, like, it's so hurtful that I watch that video and I'm like, holy fuck, that's cool. Like, that is so sick. How fucking cool is that shit? Like, dude, the countdown. 325 days. 190 days. Like, every single day, they fucking hate Michigan. And they're beating our ass every single year, and it doesn't fall off.

Like, how fucking crazy is that? Like, why don't you see that from Michigan? I mean, we haven't beat Ohio State in a legitimate year, in a legitimate year, since what, 03? Yeah, it's been a long time, dude. Where Ohio State wasn't 66? what oh three yeah it's been a long time we're all house deep i mean you're definitely right that uh 2011 shouldn't even really count um because it is they were what six and six or something um and had in luke fickle as their coach so um it's i i 100 agree with you. I would never jump ship because I feel like the – I don't know. I could maybe jump ship to like an SEC team and go root for Florida

or something like that. Florida? I couldn't do Florida. Why? I mean, Jacqueline's mom played softball at Florida, so I got ties. Okay, you have ties. They're like – they're Gator fans. I think when we were – when Michigan was playing Florida, like what back to back to back years oh fuck florida i hate florida

god yeah i see that okay i see it yeah can't jump to ohio state but another like conference dude i loki yeah uh loki that was fucking awesome how cool is that how mad does that make you how mad does that make you dude i'm like fired up culture their culture is fucking amazing and that's why they're as good as they are great culture they recruit great talent they fucking develop them i'm gonna say this i'm gonna say this i'm gonna say this like yes i agree with you to a point, but also, social media doesn't fucking matter if we can put a good product on the field and go have good coaches. I know, but if we can put a good product on the field, then they would never be able to put that out on social media. Or they would, and it'd be cool, but we'd be like, hey, great tweet, but we just beat your ass. So that's where like i agree with you in social media 100 like i'm sure there are recruits that are

either between michigan and ohio state watch that and they're like i'm not fucking going to michigan because they beat the shit out of them every year and they talk about it and think about it that just for the intensity like how much they show how much the rivalry means to them at Ohio State. Yeah. You don't see that at Michigan. It just means more. It just means more. They deserve to be in the – put them in the SEC, dude.

It does just mean more at Ohio State. It does. Put them in the fucking SEC. I mean, you see Ohio State's got that big wall that, like, displays the game and, like countdown clock all that shit do they have that at michigan no like they don't embrace it like they're part of the greatest rivalry in all of in all of sports and you don't embrace it like what the fuck is that they did during brady hoax years brady brought it all back and then jim was like nah i'm good that's so good and then he's went oh and six so oh and five um oh five and one are we calling it a tie i'm calling it a fucking tie we'll take that we'll take the one at the end of that record

maybe it'll be like oh five oh and one it's like not even a tie oh five oh dnf did not finish yeah oh five and a half yeah or i don't know man like the whole it's just god i i wanted i was i was literally taught i was thinking about this during my run before i got on here i was like we need to just have positive vibes only all day on this podcast and it's just not possible it's impossible it's literally impossible to talk positively about michigan right now which is so difficult because i can't tell you how much it affects my life no matter how hard i try not to let it and i'm just like bro yeah god it's just so annoying watching that video like it does make me go like gosh they really do something different especially because i just saw a video of urban meyer talking about

like developing players like uh like mental attitudes and stuff like that and trying to make them like really great competitive players. And he said his main slogan for the Ohio State program was the edge is where average stops and elite begins. And I'm like, that's literally that video. Like we want to be more than average. We want to be elite. And I, we have not embraced that attitude at Michigan. Well, when was the lastigan well when was the last

time when was the last time you thought that michigan played with an edge like heart 2016 20 i mean maybe 2016 maybe some of the the revenge give 20 2013 devon gardner against ohio state i would say the 2018 revenge games i thought chase winovich and devin bush played with an edge for sure until they got to the game and i think they had an edge in that game too that but ohio state's just you know that good yeah um so i i i just don't like – so was it Bryce that said something that like when you recruit from Boston, Massachusetts, it's a lot different than recruiting from Texas and Florida. You don't recruit dogs. We need to recruit some dogs that are just like fighting for everything they've got and like they aren't going to back down because i he said what was he

saying that like we recruit michigan recruits from the uh from the prep schools and they have prep school attitude yeah makes sense which unfortunately fits right into our uh our cliche like image right where we're these like preppy uppity guys and ohio state is the workhorses and unfortunately maybe that's how it really is i i think it is and and well like how is that it wasn't any different in the 90s it wasn't any different in the early 2000s or something when we were beating the shit out of ohio state like but you know what's interesting jim definitely embraced that kind of like hard worker mentality when he first got here you remember everyone had those like blue collar

shirts and everything then we like got away from that i don't know i just think here's you want to know this is a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory but i love it when jim harbaugh went from walmart khakis to getting his lulu lemon deal it was over it was over yeah as much as i love the lulu and i respect it and i want a pair of lulu pants because they just look so so fucking comfortable lulu is the best out there but all i'm saying is old jim harbaugh was going to walmart to buy 15 khaki khaki pants and now new jim harbaugh wears a mask with a boner underneath it and has wears lulu lemon pants he doesn't even wear a sweater anymore he's just he's he's not the same i don't know what happened to him this episode of blue by 90 is brought to you by lulu go in get zero discount because we're not sponsored no i kind of like his new sweater that he's been wearing to be honest

dude that hoodie's fucking dope i want like i want one yeah still waiting for my new for my flag to come in with the uh old michigan logo love that fucking thing okay you gotta steal that 97 uh national champions flag from your dad oh i do man that's a sick fucking flag need that bro do we have a halftime update from basketball we do have a half halftime update uh 44 26 michigan they pulled away at the end yeah doing well um updated stats livers took over the uh the scoring lead with 11 franz up to nine uh he is nine and three rebounds mike smith still with four austin davis still with 10 shawnee four dickinson six so they're playing well today i i think let's get into it let's get into michigan basketball a little bit

so um i unfortunately it was i was pretty sad that they didn't get to play nc state today that that would have been like their real you know solid test solid test of where are you at because it's tough to know against just max schools all the time or horizon league schools um even though i do think the three max schools that we played BG Toledo and solid, solid team. Something. Who else did we play? Oakland.

I think it was, uh, well, Oakland. Yeah. And the horizon league was fuck. Who else did we play? Oh,

Toledo ball state, ball state, ball state. You're right. Yep. So, um, so they're like three of the top teams in the Mac,

I think as far as projections, I mean, not that I'm looking into like projections on the top teams in the MAAC, I think, as far as projections. I mean, not that I'm looking into projections of the MAAC or pay attention to that. But I do think they're legit squads. I think Michigan is a legit squad. So what I was going to say earlier, what I'm concerned about is what they've done in these first five games is all they do is like get it to the big man down low and he scores because the Mac big man is like six foot eight and our guy is you know seven foot two so that's not going to work when you're going against Luka Garza in at Iowa or uh you know Matty Sissoko at MSU or something like that so I'm a little worried about our strategy right now

and if we can truly be um you know dominant but i also love the versatility of this team it's unbelievable yeah i mean and that's like what you said i mean they're getting the ball down low and they're dominating down there and that's how they're winning games but i think there's more to this team than that like i think they're shooting the ball well i think they're moving the ball around well. Obviously, getting into the Big Ten, they're going to see the bigs are different in the Big Ten. So we'll see kind of how Dickinson and Austin Davis match up. But I don't know. I'm still thinking fifth place finish in the Big Ten is pretty ideal right now for the Michigan basketball team.

And I think they'll be able to compete. They're definitely not going to be blowing people out like they are now unless they can consistently shoot really, really well. Because like you said, I don't think they're going to be able to dominate on the boards like they are against the teams that they're playing. Yeah, I'm just really impressed with the bench kind of players, right? The guys coming off the bench. I'm like, wow, these guys, they could start, honestly.

So for me, that's where I watch and I go like, wow, you know, Shondy Brown and some of those kinds of guys. I'm like, wow, legit. Did you guys realize that Shondy Brown was, I think, the 37th ranked player in his class something like that over in country yeah he was legit he was fucking legit uh coming out why did he go to wake forest tim duncan baby demon deacon oh yeah wake forest's last great player in 1984 tim duncan spent 37 seasons in the nba he is so old so i do love big fundamental dude he deserves way more respect in the nba

so i mean that's legit i agree with you caitlin 100 i tweeted it out the other day during um what'd they play sunday i think i said the problem with michigan is that they have like I tweeted it out the other day during Sunday, I think. I said the problem with Michigan is that they have like eight guys that deserve 30 minutes a game. It's a good problem to have, but I don't think Juwan knows what to do with Brandon Johns and Shondy and some of those guys because he's like – even Terrence Williams, the freshman, because he's like even Terrence Williams the freshman because he's like they should be could be starting but I've got a really solid starting five you know and even Hunter Dickinson I think he'll transition into the starting spot at some point I don't know

when front or when Juwan will pull that trigger and make make austin davis come off the bench but i kind of like austin davis a little to to come off the bench we when we play in the macker three on three with my with my friends like we leave our best guy on the bench for the first like five minutes because we're like we make them think that this is all we've got and then we bring in our good guys so maybe that's maybe juan's been watching us a little bit well Well, from what I've heard, I think it's – what is it? Juwan said that Austin Davis earned that spot as a starter, so that's why he's keeping him in there. And I think, you know, speaking for all of us,

I can say by no means are we saying Austin Davis is not a good enough player to be in there. He's very good. But Hunter Dickinson's just fucking so – I mean, he's probably going to be – he could be – I think he will be freshman player of the year in the big 10 but he could be up for national honors as well but when you're talking about the freshman i don't think terrence williams or zev jackson they haven't gotten in at all this game yet and i'm kind of shocked that terrence williams hasn't got in yeah i agree yeah he i thought he was making some strides to like actually you know get himself into

one of those maybe not a starting role but like first or second guy off the bench after hunter um and i don't know that's interesting maybe it's just a match-up thing with toledo or something who knows might be i mean it's alluding with them pulling ahead in the second half, I'm hoping they get in. Because I want to see Zeb Jackson a little bit more and kind of see how he can move around. But, yeah, sorry, Kale. I'm sorry to cut you off. No, I was alluding to this earlier with Ro. But could somebody, like, maybe try to educate me or something on Mike Smith?

That guy, I just, I'm not sold. So maybe there's something I'm missing i don't know uh i don't know does anybody have any insight so with mike smith he's not gonna be like xavier and get to the bucket all the time not even that xavier was like this great offensive guy but xavier is in my opinion uh was a great point guard. Even though he couldn't shoot, he still – Michigan doesn't win most games last year without Xavier Simpson. And so Mike Smith, he's a director of traffic. I think he has great vision, especially in transition,

which if you notice now with under Juwan Howard, way more than John Beeline, like they push immediately, they get a rebound and they're out running immediately. And so I think that he's pretty good at that, at this vision, finding people in transition. I think that he will find out he'll be a decent shooter at, at some point he, I mean, he was averaging 26 points per

game for columbia so he was just shooting every time down the floor essentially um he doesn't i don't think juwan wants him in that role um and i think he's probably not as comfortable in like a you know secondary role when he's not just forced to shoot all the time so maybe he gets it maybe he doesn't but i think he's more important like in the grand scheme of things than just you know as our score type of thing yeah i mean i think he's more of a point guard now than than he was at columbia because he definitely he was you know kind of a blend of a one and two i mean with that many points just scoring um it's hard to really at least from my perspective it seems like it's hard to really fulfill your full duties as a point guard getting the ball around to other people

run the offense I mean if you're scoring 30 points a game you're more relying on yourself but I like what I've seen out of Mike Smith I have no complaints so far I mean as long as the team plays well I mean I feel like the point guard guards just like the kind of the the branded leader of most teams like the quarterback of uh of basketball team so i mean as long as the team's playing well if he's not racking up a whole bunch of points but he's playing a lot of minutes fine with me okay yeah i mean now that you guys mention it i mean he has been a pretty good like passer and had like that court vision kind of aspect to him i've just seen him take some pretty wide open shots and i'm like i how do you miss that so yeah i think that in order for him to be like in order for michigan to be truly elite they if he knocks down if he's one for three on the day shooting threes,

even like one for two, whatever, one for three, then that opens up Michigan's offense so much more because then they have, you know, outside of Hunter Dickinson and Austin Davis, every single person can shoot a three. Right. And so if he, Eli Franz, obviously livers, you know, even go to Brandon Johns, Terrence Williams can hit the three. Shaundi obviously just been killing the three lately. I think it opens it up if your point guard can dish the ball off

but then go to the corner and hit the three in the corner or just, you know, make some moves. Like, it's kind of crazy you know thinking back on how michigan has transformed this team this offense and everything obviously through a coaching change but think back to derrick walton and trey burke where it was like they literally ran pick and roll one-on-one and it's trey burke or derrick walton making one move in in step back and hit the three or something quick shout out quick shout out to derrick walton and uh slim diesel who i didn't see on the list initially but your top uh top top 10 2k

three-point shooters it's crazy crazy i did not expect walton to be in there well it fucked me up with duncan robinson they put the like the new or the old, whatever it was, Miami logo, and it threw me off. They had the baby blue on there with the neon, and I was like, I just didn't even see it. Well, the letters that spelled out his name weren't very obvious in the whole list. So, yeah, it's tough to— Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck you. The whole reading thing was tough. The whole reading. Yeah, it's tough to – Yeah, yeah, fuck you. The whole reading thing was tough.

The whole reading, yeah. It's tough. Fuck off. Honestly, though, I don't – like, why is Derek Walton on that list? He's – low-key, he's barely played in the NBA. He's been more of, like, a two-way guy. Right. It's kind of weird.

He plays two leagues, like, half the year and then comes up and rides the bench in the NBA. So I was just kind of confused to see him on that. I'm going to look up his stats now because he's awesome. I was literally trying to think of who was the point guard at Michigan between Xavier and Trey Burke. I couldn't even remember his name. Oh, my God. I mean, he was also underrated at Michigan, too, because he was legit at Michigan. He was solid. it's hard to follow

trey burke yeah that was the biggest thing it was tough for him like he's following a fucking national player of the year right and he he came in between stauskas and trey burke right or like around those times so like you had two big time player of the years um obviously trey was national player of the year so um yeah you know he had big shoes to fill at that point. But, yeah, I still am kind of confused. I was kind of laughing. His career, he's averaging like 41% from three. Very solid.

I mean, he was a good shooter at Michigan, too. So, Jacqueline had to find what team he was on in the NBA for something with her job in doing a cutout. I think they were doing the cutouts for Chrysler. So she needed the most recent team, and so she didn't know. We couldn't find it. We're trying to Google it, blah, blah, blah, because he had been on a couple different teams.

And she finally reaches out to a couple people. I think she ended up having to reach out to the 76ers or something because that was the team he was on. They were like, no, actually, he got cut today. Or whatever

team he was on before he landed this last deal um i can't think he landed with the sixers okay what so it wasn't the sixers team before that whatever it seemed before that i think clippers yeah it was the clippers they had to reach out and that they're like pr person had to come back be like yeah we actually cut him today so yikes breaking news yikes man um so yeah so i don't know man i'm excited for michigan basketball here uh yeah let's talk about the second half how are you guys feeling now that michigan football is over and now we just have michigan basketball we can get back to the hype of preseason michigan football positive vibes only

positive vibes only this is the year you know the lions are one to know after with the uh bevel area right bevel what's his name brian bevel does that sound right to you guys but uh lions are lions are hot michigan basketball's hot. Michigan hockey is doing well. I'm pretty pumped right now. I mean, the thing about Michigan during Michigan basketball and Michigan hockey and whatever else, like, they can lose a game and it's not the end of the season. Right? That's the best part about Michigan basketball basketball is you still you're always i mean

hopefully gonna get to march um you're gonna get to the big 10 tournament all these things so like that's why basketball is so great and football is so annoying is because usually during football we lose a game like pretty early in the season and then it's like all right now i got nothing to to you know get excited about and that that's gonna bring me back to the college football playoff needs to be expanded gotta expand it this year out of any year in the history of the universe is the perfect year to for them to just say fuck it let's let's see eight teams let's see byu let's see coastal carolina let's see cincinnati whatever throw them all in there and just have as many games as possible

and bubble them i don't care how you do it play into fucking february i don't give a shit. So, I mean, like, that was quite the rant there for a second. But, like, why not? The season is already so screwed up anyway. Why wouldn't you at least try it out? And guess what? You can make a ton more money back for TV stuff. You're adding great games that I'm going to watch. I know you guys are going to watch.

And you're telling me these teams are gonna be like no i don't want to go play like they're gonna do whatever they can to get in there what why would you not do it exactly so i'm going absolutely nuts i'm like 64 team playoff i want to see craziness right all in love it all in i mean the reason i legitimately think that there could be 16 is because let's put it in march madness terms right there's 64 teams in march madness you're probably playing two to three games a week right you know average that out timeline at 16 teams into a college football playoff that breaks down to what one two three weeks you have three weeks in a row bang bang what happened i wasn't looking i'm a little ahead of you so i'm

behind i'm behind it was to be honest but uh but 16 teams why not i mean you get a full playoff you get more action more opportunities for You get more action, more opportunities for upset, more opportunities for excitement, more money. What's the downside here? D2 does it. D2 does it. D3 does it. NAI does it. Everybody but D1.

They all do 16-plus team playoffs. It's like that's why I don't get it because I know the bowl. Yeah, it's not new. And the bowl system I know makes a shit ton of money so that's why they want to stick with it but you can still have bowls outside of those i would if i would watch the the next this all the 16 games or eight games or whatever for the 16 teams more than i'm watching the fucking Orange Bowl with whoever. Right?

And that's what I'm thinking. Use the New Year's Six as all the playoff games. They've taken a couple of them, and they've done that. So use the New Year's Six bowls for the Sweet 16. Mike Smith for three. Uh-oh. Austin Davis got hurt. Oh, I think he's okay.

Okay. But Mike Smith just had a big three. So he's the New Year's Six. And what you got to think is that if these games are playoff games, there's going to be more viewership, more money is going to be made, and you're going to think the sponsors are going to be all for it. That's what I don't get is a lot of times the reasoning for like them not making it better for the game is because it doesn't make sense financially but expanding the playoff makes way more sense financially i would watch every single game if it was eight

teams 12 teams 16 especially because it has implications moving forward. Exactly. Exactly. I don't know. I don't get it. And they signed – it was like ridiculous. The big reason, I guess, was they couldn't change it because they signed some contract through 2024 or something like that. And it's like, dude, if it worked financially, they could revisit that contract. I promise you they would work. They would make it work. Yeah.

Yeah, I completely agree. I mean, first of all, selfishly, because Michigan would have been in the playoff like three out of the last five years if it was eight teams. I mean, definitely in 2016, probably in 2018, too, because they're 10-2're 10 and 2 you know so i mean last year yeah last year even no what were they ranked last year they were we lost by like fucking 70 to wisconsin um but they were top 15 right we played fucking bama who was like 10 yeah i mean if it's 16 yeah probably not top 8 though oh yeah no no not top 8 sorry but i'd love to see 16 oh i meant to ask you guys i saw something that

there's like rumors about ohio state playing like texas a&m i saw that too i saw a bunch of a&m players like tweeted out those like eyeball emojis like oh something's coming but uh it's funny unnecessary roughness sitting there like all texas a&m players are sitting in the locker room troll the shit out of everybody i don't think i don't think that's happening but no especially because uh well actually they didn't maybe it could but well they didn't let nebraska play tennessee chattanooga earlier in the year. So I know you want to bend the rules for Ohio State, but I think that's too –

I think now that they already bent the rules – I think they let them play Indiana. Yeah, I was going to say, now that they already bent the rules for Ohio State to play in the Big Ten title game, if they get a win there, they're going to the playoff. I mean, I just don't see any other way. I'd watch it, though. Oh, I do. Shit. 10 title game, if they get a win they're going to the playoff. I just don't see any other way. I'd watch it though. What are you guys going to do on Saturday now?

Probably still watch football. You guys want to hang out? I ain't doing shit now. Yeah, I don't know. I'll be watching football, that's for sure. I think Heather and I are going to go down to Ohio on Friday friday night little date night be able to actually go to a restaurant don't spend your money in ohio fuck man i told you i might jump shit all right so zero to 90 harbaugh contract edition what do you guys think is gonna happen so we will start it start it off who wants to start off

here i'll go all right i have a feeling that you've got some more conspiracy theories under your hat here always i love aluminum put that aluminum foil hat on dude love it there are plenty of ohio state fans on twitter with their aluminum foil hats on, dude. I know. Get out of here, bro. Pretty sure they wear it all the time. The whole ducking. Before we even get to that, I'm sorry. I have to comment on the whole thing where they think that we're trying to run away from the game.

There were 45 players going to be out. And 20 of them were starters dude like and i the whole thing like i don't understand how you even have an angle in this for ohio state fans because you literally had to cancel your game against illinois two weeks ago because of the same shit and you didn't even have that many people out so like fuck off with that with all that uh with that narrative it's like dude you sound ridiculous but of course they're gonna run with it and be like you didn't want to be get beat by a hundred yeah i mean yeah they have they have every they're going to take advantage of every opportunity to talk. You know what?

They can suck it because I know for a fact Dan Valari was going out to score six touchdowns on him and just can't tell me he wasn't. Can't tell me. Exactly. Are you going to tell me he wasn't? They've never seen him. They don't know how good he is. He's going to play two games. Win the Heisman. Cardale Jones. know how good he is. He's going to play two games. Win the Heisman.

Cardale Jones. That's what he is, honestly. Yeah. So. All right. So zero to 90, Jack. You ready? Yes, sir.

All right. Your zero to 90 starts now. So I'm sticking with my conspiracy theory. I don't think that the michigan administration is that idiotic to postpone any sort of extension for harbaugh and fuck with all these recruitments and and yada yada yada i think there's somebody else lined up i think they've got somebody else that they've been talking to and we're going to see a new michigan head coach in uh 2021 i feel if if we do see hardball in 2021 i'm not gonna be mad about that i'm gonna be mad about the fact they took so long to fucking sign the extension if you did actually offer him

something put a deadline on it before signing day like a week before that'd be great which would be today and then that way like you're not fucking shit up like be smarter than that man like you're you're literally we're dealing in business and you're literally you're fucking it all up that's like the highest levels at the highest level that is what's pissing me off you're dealing with millions and millions of dollars and you're going about it this way it's pissing me off so if we do see harbaugh extended again i won't be mad at harbaugh i'll be mad at fucking the administration for taking song to get it done yeah i'm with you i'm 100 with you by the way terrence williams is in

the game now he just missed three but yeah i do love headband i'm all headband t love headband. Headband T. Will. Headband T. Will. All in on headband T. Will. It's a good look. All right. Kalen, your zero to 90 starts now. I think on Saturday, Jim Harbaugh is going to come out and he'll be like, okay, I've decided that I will not be the coach at u of m uh but then on december 15th he will hold a press conference where he's just you know i love this program blah blah blah and people are going to be like okay jim whatever thanks and then he'll just say you know what I'm not fucking leaving

just Jordan Belkwood style and they'll be like holy shit Jim Arma is still here and then that'll be it I don't think it'll do anything recruits won't come running but I think he'll just do it for show I love that and I am going to I thought about that I was going to tweet it out i'm going

to tweet it out tomorrow at some point and be like the only way i'm still in on jim harbaugh is if he comes out on twitter and just tweets out like that whole video uncensored with his face over leo dicaprio's like i mean that would be the most savage shit of all time i think that's for sure didn't we want old jim daddy daddy i think fickle did it at netty last year because everyone's talking about him to msu and he's like i'm not fucking leaving boy uh dawson at michigan insiders on instagram i think it's um insiders on twitter um he put out uh a video of like stephen a smith like dressed in the uh what is he he's in the cowboy cowboy hat going through like the packers fans and uh people are like booing he's like yeah

yeah yeah yada yada yada and uh man i was like he's like just jim harbaugh coming back in 2021 i was like if he does that man i love that energy just have some have that fire have that confidence man bring that bring that harbaugh back that's the harbaugh i love uh i'd love to see absolutely absolutely all right i'm ready for mine all right justin you're a zero to 90 starts now all right that is the only way truly that I do want Harbaugh back if he comes back and is still like I first of all he needs to get rid of his glasses fuck the glasses get some contacts Jim so I'm a motherfucker exactly so come back with some swagger and he has to do something different. Ooh. Look at those bad boys.

That Warby Parker? Warby Parker. He needs to come back and be, like, completely changed, honestly. Because if he comes back and it's the same, like, same mantra, same philosophy, same swagger, which is non-existent at this point. I'm going to be like, dude, what are we doing here? But if he comes back with some fire and comes back, go back on Twitter, Jim. Go back, do the satellite camps. Start rustling some feathers dude that was when we were at our

best was when everyone was like hey we're here and we're when we're here we're gonna let you know it even if we're not winning uh you know national titles or or big 10 titles like you're at least gonna know that we're fucking here so that's where i'm like dude if he's gonna come back and just be you know nonchalant jim which he's been for the last two years fuck it but i need i need jim if he's back to be like this is my last hurrah and at michigan and you know what if i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do it right and but have a big block from eli brooks up here if you want to watch it but um the thing i want to see jim harbaugh the one that recruited quinn nordine got him to michigan yeah not not necessarily the one i can't remember the bama or who or who the who the tackle was

that uh he wore the cleats in the house. That was a bad look. Don't do that. But the hardball with the fire, man, the one that's going to do something. Like, you know, bring that fire back to the program. Get the tweets out. You know, bring that energy back to yourself because that's where he was, like, thriving. That's when we were like, all right, at least I can, like, believe in this coach.

Right now he's quiet. He seems super like just not confident on anything he does like it's just it's not who you can have you can't have that guy as a leader even in the like every press conference even like even before the season dude you just like i don't know i want him to say some stupid shit i've never would have thought i'd say that but like right say something off he made eight million a year so i'm like you can pay any fine so you might as well just be dropping f-bombs talking shit holding satellite camps just do it all because you can pay any fine they give you yeah but i mean that's that's part of half the conspiracy theories out there and i

don't even i don't even want to call it conspiracy theories because I think it's pretty legit that after the 2016 Ohio State game when he went off about the officiating, you know, he like the regents and administration, everybody was like, you can't do that in a press conference. You need to like tone it down and all that stuff. And he's never been the same since. I believe it. I don't. Yeah. you need to like tone it down and all that stuff and he's never been the same since and so i believe

it i don't we heard yeah i was listening to sam webb michigan insider and i can't remember if it was sam or it might have been michael um on the show but somebody mentioned something about rich rod saying ain't in a meeting john bacon Bacon said it. That's what it was. The five bomb show. Yeah. John Bacon has said. Shout out Matt Burns. Yep. Shout out Matt Burns.

Thank you, Mr. Three Point Pod. But he said ain't. And a regent came and said something to him. Because Richard was like, oh, and I say like, fuck, like what happened? And he's like, you said ain't. Like, you know, you can't say that. It's like, are you fucking kidding me? Get these regents the fuck out of here. You're not i

promise you these guys are not football players they're no you know they they don't they're sticking their nose where it doesn't need to be i understand they probably throw a lot of money there and you know it helps the program but if you're taking away from an attitude and especially want to be a team of ohio state let harbaugh do what he has to do if that's what's playing any sort of part into what we've seen in the change in harbaugh tell him to shut the fuck up and get that fuck out because that that's ridiculous well even beyond harbaugh if there's a next guy as well you know like i would get those true for sure if you're gonna have somebody looking over your shoulder for every press conference you do like which obviously there's a pr team for that but like if you're if you're

you know just constantly overwatched and over you know like over overly all that stuff then you're not gonna want to come here and so um yeah but like if say it is Matt Campbell. Matt Campbell is tobacco chewing. He's got the curved hat. He's like he's not a guy that's like, you know, super presentable as far as like, you know, when we're talking about preppy and things like that. He is a true blue collar guy. So there was something that John Bacon said that in that interview I saw. He was like, maybe Matt Campbell doesn't fit in at Michigan because he's like that. And to me, it's like, at what point do we stop trying to find people who fit in at Michigan

and have somebody come in and make Michigan their own, mold it to them, and we can fit into their winning ways. Yeah, 100%. That's what needs to happen. Yeah, I'm with you. All right. All right, we'll wrap it up there. We've got to be more pause vibes only. We tried so hard, and then it's just like we're back to negativity.

All right, we'll leave you here 9 35 left i've got on my tv 74 50 michigan it looks like they're really pulling away uh this is uh this is i think this is the last game before Big Ten play. So next time we'll be talking about some actual teams that they'll play. Although Michigan, the first part of their Big Ten schedule is not good other than Maryland, which I think favors Michigan. They still get a head start there. So, yeah, but we want to have a couple more basketball people on to talk, you know, talk basketball and maybe even hockey or something like that. We'll see.

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