Blue By Ninety - Top 5 Michigan RBs, Michigan vs. LSU, & Confirmed COVID-19 Cases in College Football.

Episode Date: June 9, 2020

In this episode, we rank our top 5 Michigan running backs since the 2000's. We also touch on the Michigan vs. LSU match-up, and how COVID-19 has affected multiple college programs as of this week. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, thanks for checking out Blue by 90. On today's episode, we talk about our top five running backs. Then we transition into some news about players who tested positive for COVID and how that will impact college football moving forward. Then we wrap up with some news about Michigan versus LSU game possibly coming soon. And then stay tuned for our 0 to 90 takes. Thanks and enjoy the show. This is the University of Michigan. Touchdown Michigan! zero to 90 takes. Thanks and enjoy the show. And Jordan Poole! Down the sideline! Peebles Jones! Touchdown, Wolverines! Welcome to Blue by 90, your Michigan Wolverines podcast. We are three dudes who talk amazing blue.
Starting point is 00:01:01 I'm Kalen, joined by Roe and Jack. Guys, how you doing this morning? Good, man. Beautiful day. Another beautiful day. I feel like we endured the winter, and even the spring was pretty crappy, but we've had a couple weeks here in Michigan that have been unbelievable. Yeah, no complaints. We both successfully went on the boat yesterday, and no red face, which is great.
Starting point is 00:01:30 My arms are a little sunburned, but no raw tomato faces this week. I'm trying to stay under that five sunburns by, what did you say, August or something, by the first game of the year. So I'm trying to keep that under from your zero to 90 last week. So, you know, these are the moneymakers though, right, Jack? Like we got to keep these fresh here. So check us out on YouTube to see, you know, our non-sunburn this week. Don't go back and look at last week's episode because you'll see a tomato in the spot where my face is supposed to be. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Yeah, now you got the light, right? The ring light to make it all look nice. You had your makeup artist hit you real quick. So Jack looks a little redder than you this week now. Let's go. Let's go. That's what I like to hear. Oh, good. let's go let's go that's what i like to hear oh good i'm glad we're all getting outside uh so we we definitely had some big news big week right um uh jim harbaugh was out protesting this week um obviously there's a lot of stuff going down um but we're going to kind of make our
Starting point is 00:02:46 podcast kind of a positive space right so a place where people can escape from the realities of the world and just see the positivity that is michigan sports right agreed love it A lot of bad stuff going on. Yeah, couldn't have said it better myself. Okay, great. Yeah, I think the one thing I did want to touch on was kind of what you already said here. I'm glad that it's good to hear that Harbaugh, our football coach, is in a good spot here, I think, with the players and with everything else. He's on what I would like to call the right side of things here, I think, with the players and with everything else. And he's on, you know, what I would like to call the right side of things here, not to get too political or anything, but there's a lot of coaches out there that have, you
Starting point is 00:03:33 know, said some remarks in the past few days or weeks that haven't gone so well. And so to see our guy, you know, out there with his players, with his other coaches, you know, standing in unity with them with them was pretty cool to see. Yeah, agreed. So we're kind of going to gloss over some of those things. If anybody wants us to touch on any of them, feel free to leave us a comment or something, and maybe we can bring a guest on and address some of those concerns.
Starting point is 00:04:02 But for now, we're going to pivot a little bit towards some Michigan football talk, right? I think we all have a list for our top five running backs. Now, caveat here, top five running backs since 2000. So I was going to put Tim Biaka-Patuka on my list. They shut me down. Didn't like that. Who wants to go first? How do we want to do this? We want to go around Robin.
Starting point is 00:04:34 We want to go one to five. What's the deal? Snake draft. You got to explain the snake draft to me. I like the way you did it last time. Is that what snake draft is, going like five to one? Not really, but sure, we'll go with that. Haven't you ever played fantasy football or something like that?
Starting point is 00:04:54 Come on now. Dude, I don't follow the NFL a lot, man. That's what I want to do is I need to start following the NFL, and by doing fantasy football is the only way that I'm going to be able to do that. So this year will be my first year, I believe. All right. We'll do a Blue by 90. Maybe we can do a fantasy football league.
Starting point is 00:05:10 We'll see if some listeners want to join in on it. And you can kick Jack's ass in fantasy football. And you can realize that we actually don't know what we're talking about with football, too. We'll have us three and then ten other listeners on there, and we're going to be the bottom three probably. Oh, 100%. Love it. Love to see it.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I'll lead it off. All right. Sweet. All right, number five on my list, I've got davion smith he uh during his career from 2013 and 2016 um he had 2235 yards pretty much seemed to be our go-to back in 2015 and 2016 um not really a big home run threat but a consistent guy that we knew we were we knew exactly what we were going to get going to get out of him um so that's how I've got it at number five. Go ahead, Ro.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I actually, I'll go too. I had Davion Smith as my number five as well. You said everything there. The one thing I do remember about Davion Smith, he had that one run. I can't remember who it was against. BYU. Was it BYU? He carried like 10 people on his back, the whole BYU defense. That was like honestly one of the most incredible runs I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:06:30 So even if he never played a down, other than that, he can make the list just for that run. Dude, I've rewatched that clip over and over and over just to try to find the hole that he comes out of. Still no idea, no idea how he got through there and like where he came from but he was just he was in the backfield then he was in the in the big scrum there and then he was just gone no i'm with you that d davion smith is legit but my number five i'm coming out guns blazing my number five is zach charbonnet 726 yards last year on 149 attempts 11 touchdowns you give this kid a shot he is going to put up some crazy numbers uh in over the course of his career i think that he could earn that number
Starting point is 00:07:20 five spot and that's why i'm putting them there good good a lot of hope there that is pretty good though i like that i like that a lot well we can we can go from kalen's awful take to my number four um i've got fitz tucson honestly he only he only really had one good like pretty exceptional year uh his sophomore year 2011 last time we beat Ohio State won the sugar bowl uh against Virginia Tech but he put up over a thousand yards averaging 5.6 yards a carry and that's I mean big again based off from 2000 uh he was one of the more exciting running backs that I like to watch. So I've got Fitz at number four. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:08 My number four, I have Karan Higdon at four. So Karan, it feels like he was the last. I mean, we had a pretty good chunk of time, you know, with Rich Rod and Brady Hoke and even the beginning of Harbaugh where we didn't have a 1,000-yard rusher, right? And so he, he brought that back. I think he was, he was a good, again, he had some, some really solid runs. I don't think he was like a, you know, never in the Heisman or really not even like a, you know, star running back. We had more stars around him than he was the guy. But just the toughness that he had was awesome,
Starting point is 00:08:46 especially for a little guy. He was a bulldog and great leader on the field and everything. Yeah, I had Caron at four. Yeah, great pick. My number four was actually Davion Smith for all kind of
Starting point is 00:09:03 reasons we already talked about. And that run against BYU. I'm with you. That was that was crazy. I don't know where the hell he came from. Well, I'm interested to hear your top three if Karan's number four. Can't wait. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Let's hear it. Let's hear you first and i'll let you know so for three i've got i've got karam he was our number one guy in 2017 and 2018 um he had a thousand yards to see here which is the 2018 season uh he was only six yards away from a thousand yards in his junior year and i think honestly chris evans could have been a guy that was on this list if you know whatever happened with him didn't happen um but if Chris Evans wasn't the number two back that year and being that good of a number two back I think Karon easily would have passed a thousand yards maybe gotten to like 1200 1300 yard mark um so yeah I got K, number three. All right, so I actually put Fitz at three, Fitz Toussaint at three above Caron.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And the reason is because I think that Fitz did more with less than Caron did. So Caron had what I believe is a really good offensive line compared to what Fitz had. You know, if you go back to those teams that he was on, you know, 2011 was obviously his big year, like you said, where we went 11-2 and won the Sugar Bowl. But he, I believe, you know, he turned out like we talked about this on previous podcast episodes. You know, he turned out to be a solid running back in the NFL for a few years there for, I believe, the Steelers and the Ravens,
Starting point is 00:10:45 I think. And so I think that he did more with less where if he had a good old line and good coaching staff and things like that, he could have been a thousand yard rusher every year. But the way that the teams went, it just didn't go his way. That's why I had him above Karan there. Yeah, and actually my number three was Karan. So, I mean, I think we're all kind of in the same boat. Pretty close, yeah. We all like Karan. We all are like, he's probably one of the better running backs in our lifetime that we can, like, really remember.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Kaelin, I love him. We agree. Just makes me happy especially when it's against mr tomato face justin harrell oh you can't be talking over there today anyway you're gonna be rubbing aloe on your arms all day today dude there that's what i did last night man i had to put a long sleeve shirt on to like sleep so i don't smell the aloe all over me it's not the most not the most comfortable feeling in the world i did want to say one more thing about fits two at three was i believe we only we didn't have a 1000 yard rusher from 2011 to either 2017 or 18 so he was that 1,000 yard rusher from to uh in 2011 so you know he was that last guy so that's why I had him back up there yeah very fair very fair all right this this is tough
Starting point is 00:12:15 because I almost had him I almost had him at number one he's my favorite like one of my favorite Michigan players of all time obviously behind John Nav. But he was a teammate of John Navar, Chris Perry. He had 3,696 yards throughout his time at Michigan. In his final two seasons, he did rush more than 1,000 yards. And he won the Dove Walker Award in 2003, rushing for 1,674 yards and 18 touchdowns. And then he also finished fourth in the Heisman voting that year. And he was the first round pick going 26 to the Bengals. I mean, that was Chris Perry was my guy.
Starting point is 00:12:53 He had the 23 jersey. Oh, man. I just such an athletic, speedy back. It was like, do you guys remember Carlos Brown? Like, that's what I remember. Like, he never really did too much at Michigan, but that is who I kind of, like, thought of him as. Because Carlos Brown was a big, he was an athletic guy, speedster,
Starting point is 00:13:12 and I was kind of hoping he would kind of become a Chris Perry, but it never really panned out. But that's my number two. Yeah, I actually had Chris Perry at number two as well. You know, we kind of talked about this when we did our top five QBs, but when I first was really falling in love with Michigan football, Chris Perry was that guy, right? You know, it seems like he was the last guy.
Starting point is 00:13:34 You know, we've had some good running backs that we've already talked about in the past, you know, 10 years or so, but he was the last time where we were like a true powerhouse running back. Our offensive line was unbelievable right you know the Lloyd Carr way he was just that guy and you know like you said 1600 yards are you kidding me that's crazy and nobody gets that nowadays because everyone throws the ball a lot more but still that that's a that's a wild stat you know you could you would never see that again um especially nowadays in college football so um yeah he's a wild stat. You would never see that again, especially nowadays in college football.
Starting point is 00:14:07 So, yeah, he's a great pick at number two. And I just, like you said, the 23 jerseys, like I remember having him and Braylon and, you know, Chad Henney, John Navarro, like those guys are – those were the guys that made a lot of our generation fall in love with Michigan football. Yeah, 100 100 i'm with you because my number two is also chris perry i mean the guy was legit i mean that whole team like i feel like i remember watching those games and it felt like you heard chris perry's name
Starting point is 00:14:38 just over and over again um and then those four touchdowns to beat Florida in his last game as well. The guy was just a monster. I think putting him at number two is fair, especially, I assume we all have the same number one now. Oh, yeah. We definitely all have the same number one. I know everybody listening is probably going to think the same thing. But, yeah, I've got Sam McGuffey. Oh, man, that got me. I was so hyped for Sam McGuffey, though. When he first came to Michigan, there was so much hype around him.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And, yes, I'm kidding. I don't have Sam McGuffey. He's the bottom of my list. He might have been the most hyped-up player, like, of all time, no matter what. Dude, those videos of him just, like, doing flips and jumping over everything. It was wild. He was a gymnast in football. He should have just done gymnastics.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I mean, dude, he got wrecked multiple times he was always getting laid out and would like fly back like 15 yards i'm like holy shit how is he even getting up from this but for real obviously the obvious number one uh mike hart like i said chris perry i think could have been there if he would have had four years like Mike Hart did I probably would have had Chris Perry number one Because his numbers would have just been More insane than they already are But Mike Hart man Some stats with him
Starting point is 00:16:13 His freshman year is when he had the most yards In the season I believe And he ran for a freshman record 1,455 yards in 2004 That was the last time we won a Big Ten title It was a shared title with, I believe, Iowa. So it wasn't an outright title. I think the last outright title was in 2003.
Starting point is 00:16:35 But, man, his whole four years, that was a fun team to watch. Chad Henney, Mario Manningham, I believe, was still on those teams for a little bit. Adrian Arrington, all those guys, man. It was just such a fun team to watch and anybody that comes up with the little brother comment is number one in my heart. So Mike Hart is
Starting point is 00:16:56 my number one, which I'm assuming it is with you guys as well. Yeah, the big thing for me that I love about Mike Hart is 4-0 against Michigan State. And the little brother comment obviously led to some not-so-great years for us after that. That karma. He absolutely dominated Michigan State.
Starting point is 00:17:18 And so, you know what, he deserves to be – he can say the little brother comment. You know, like, that's well-deserved. Whether nowadays can be said or not, he could say it because he's 4-0. And so, yeah, there's no question about it for me. I mean, Chris Perry is definitely a close second. But Mike Hart was just, again, that guy that – domination as far as a running back. We were just a – we really were rbu back then you know that that's what we were that's what we were known for so um yeah i'd love to get back to those days again as well yeah my cart i mean most rush yards little brother comment say no more right i mean the guy the guy's a legend so uh his place at number one i think is
Starting point is 00:18:07 very very fair duly duly deserved so did you guys have anybody that was kind of like just outside of the five like i almost i was i didn't even look up his numbers but i almost put like brandon minor up there like i was gonna look into it and see if maybe he was like a top five guy did you guys have any of those where you were kind of thinking they they could possibly kind of jump in there it's funny you said brandon minor because i actually thought of him too and i was gonna put it on number five but i was like nah nah zach charbonnet man oh man yeah i think charbonnet could get there he could get there but. But based off, I don't know. Yeah, you could just have the best take of all year, but we'll see. The only thing that's going to hold Charbonnet back is we have studs.
Starting point is 00:18:52 We have other studs in the running back room, right, that could take yards and stats away from him. The one that I thought about, and I know we actually had him in the quarterback, was Denard. Can you count him in this? He him in the quarterback was denard can you count him in this he's in the top five rushing yards that he is he is and i i thought about that one and i was like i just i just felt it would be disrespectful to him as a quarterback but he but yes he was i mean he was top five for all those yards and i saw him like his name come
Starting point is 00:19:22 up and i was kind of looking at a couple other things. But I was like, you know what, Denard's a quarterback. I'm going to leave him as is. But, yeah, 100%, if Denard would have been a running back, he'd probably be top three. I mean, he was insane. Yeah, I mean, he's got the top five. He's in the top five.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I believe he's fifth as the most rushing yards in Michigan football history, which is pretty crazy, you know, with the history of Michigan football that they've had going back to, you know, the 1800s and they, they beat teams like 120 to zero. So, you know, it's pretty nuts for a quarterback to be even in that top five, especially with guys like Chris Perry and Mike Hart, who were talking about having, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:06 thousand yard rushing season after thousand yard rushing season. So, yeah. Well, do you guys remember when I think he set the single game record for rushing yards by a quarterback and then he beat it the next game against Notre Dame? That was like, man, I literally remember him running away in that white jersey just flying away from Notre Dame fighting Irish.
Starting point is 00:20:32 That's what I remember with Denard. I'm like, holy shit, man. Imagine if Tate Forsyth kind of would have taken over as quarterback, who was number four in the Heisman voting for the first four weeks of whatever season that was. Can you imagine having him at quarterback and then Denard at running back and just blowing people away? That might be an awful take.
Starting point is 00:20:51 And you know what? I'll go with it. I'm known for it. But I think that could have been a crazy duo, man. Fun fact about that Notre Dame game is I was there in South Bend, and I was sitting right next to Rich Rod's wife and kids and literally hugging Rita Rodriguez, Rita Rodriguez, um, as Denard's like flying down.
Starting point is 00:21:15 And actually I was right next to, that's where I met, uh, Denard's brother who I'm good friends with now. And so like, I'm like, it was just a wild game. I remember the one where he, you know, that long run 80 yards or whatever. That was unreal. So I don't totally disagree with that. You know, that hot take you've got there. Well, in some parallel dimension, hopefully that's that's the route Michigan went down. All right. Moving on to our next topic here.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I heard a couple players, one at Alabama, one at Oklahoma State, somehow got COVID-19. What's the impact on those programs now? I mean, do they have to quarantine all their players for two weeks or what? Does anybody know? Dude, I saw it sounded like it was more than just like one like it was like multiple like for one he was like up to like five players got it and wow like i like honestly i wish i would have read the article so i'd have been more insightful um but that would have just been too professional and you know i
Starting point is 00:22:20 can't do that but um i i can't remember if they said they brought it to campus or like they must or if they got tested before and maybe they couldn't come to campus because of that but dude if they brought it to campus and they had it that is not that can't be a positive impact impact on the college football season yeah it seems like so what i'm pretty sure happened so it was five players from alabama and then one player from oklahoma state that has been reported so far and really so this is only they were the first couple teams that i think that have reported to right now everyone's just doing voluntary workouts so it's not anything like team sanctioned or anything like that which voluntary workouts in college football are the most mandatory workouts
Starting point is 00:23:07 ever, right? They say these workouts are voluntary, but so is playing time. So that's the old saying. But, yeah, so I think that they brought this, you know, from wherever they are. Who knows where it came from, right? It could have been uh contracted anywhere but these guys are they are getting tested now once they get back to campus and so yeah who knows i don't know
Starting point is 00:23:33 how many exactly players um uh reported from bama but five of them had uh tested positive for covid which like jack said i mean you know, first thing to happen as these guys come back, just as far as the press and, you know, what this means for college football. I'm really worried, you know, as we keep going, you know, as teams keep reporting to camp, as I think Michigan football is going to be June 15th, they report for voluntary workouts, you know, what's going to happen there? Are guys going to keep testing positive? Like you said, Kalen, how is each team?
Starting point is 00:24:10 It's going to be, you know, university by university how they handle it. Are they quarantining? Are they, you know, just say, all right, we're done for, you know, workouts for two weeks until this happens. But it's just I think it's going to keep happening for a while. You know, hopefully these guys are healthy enough that they won't be too negatively impacted by the virus. But we'll see how that goes.
Starting point is 00:24:34 It's definitely not a good thing, that's for sure. No, and I saw an article from Lincoln Riley too saying exactly what you were saying, Roe, about these workouts. They say that they're voluntary, but they're really not, right? So we really have to be aware of our players' best interests. But this kind of made me think of something that, I don't know, I want to get your guys' opinion on. I heard something, I can't remember where I saw somebody saying this, but if you're a guy like Trevor Lawrence, right? Why would you not just say, you know what?
Starting point is 00:25:12 I'm the best QB in my class. I'm just going to sit out the whole year. I mean, honestly, people were kind of saying that for him last year. Like, sit out. And there was no coronavirus. Right. Like, I was like, dude, you know you're about to get paid. Just, like, go on vacation for two years.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Go live in freaking, like, Hawaii and get an agent. And, like, the NCAA can't, like, do anything to you because you're not playing, right? Unless it can have some effect on the team. Dude, I don't know i i think that'd be a smart move for him because the only thing that can happen is he can get hurt and then he loses his money but yeah no and i mean i know last year they asked him after um after the college football championship series um they asked him, like, are you going to come back and play, blah, blah, blah? And he's like, well, I'm here to play with my team,
Starting point is 00:26:09 and I'm competitive, and I'm going to play, right? But that's a totally different story after COVID. So I kind of look at guys like that, and I'm like, dude, there's really no reason for you to put yourself in harm's way. Just sit out. I think it's not a bad idea. If you're a top five guy right now there's really no reason to play and we've seen that you know in college basketball too
Starting point is 00:26:33 you know um the guy that played uh was playing gonna play at memphis and then he got sanctioned and was gonna have to sit out for half the year he just just said, okay, I'm just going to sit out forever and just go to the NBA then. You know, same thing is going to start happening in college football. If a guy like Trevor Lawrence, you know, has that great year, it's going to happen. One of these guys are going to say, screw it, I'm just going to work out at IMG Academy, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:01 for two years or something like that, and then I'll still be a top five draft pick and so now like you said with everything going on what if he gets COVID and something happens to him you know that's millions and millions of dollars lost because you know if something happens like that you know he could drop in the in the draft and so I don't see for a lot of these guys why they should play this year which is you know a sad thing obviously you know we're a pro football podcast here we want football to happen but it we're here for the safety of the players as well and and so um I mean the worst possible scenario in this situation is these teams start coming back and then a player or a coach unfortunately passes away from the virus.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Right. That's worst possible scenario. And so I think that it's just going to be a tough situation to to maneuver through here for the NCAA and these universities. Because guess what? You know, these players are 18 through 22 or 23 they're probably pretty healthy and they could get through the virus but what about you know a guy like Don Brown who is in his late 60s you know what if he gets the virus there's there's a lot of older men and women around the around these teams that you could be afraid of, you know, negatively being impacted by this virus and not making it through. So it's a tough situation for everyone to navigate through here.
Starting point is 00:28:31 And then especially once you start talking about guys voluntarily, you know, sitting out, that's going to be it's going to be just wild. Yeah. So, I mean, do you think let's kind of angle that question back towards michigan right do you think there's anybody in michigan football or even michigan sports that should sit out top of my mind i'd say no i mean i'd say maybe isaiah livers but he's even a guy that after people looked at him this year he's not even on the top was it 75 players so he he's a guy where i'd say he he needs to play he needs to be able to show that um he can get into that top
Starting point is 00:29:11 75 or whatever number that is and as far as michigan football i mean both of our quarterbacks haven't proven themselves yet they need to play um and i can't think of anybody else that might be a standout that that would have the ability to sit out maybe Cameron Grone but other than that I can't really think of anybody that it would be better off for them to do that when they're trying to pursue a professional career in sports yeah I mean there's not we don't have that top five quarterback or running back or even linemen at this point you know we have some good standouts but nobody's penciled in at that spot yet so I don't see anybody you know maybe Franz Wagner and on the basketball team and Isaiah livers like Jack said but um you know those guys will probably
Starting point is 00:29:57 get drafted who knows I it's tough to say but um they would maybe get drafted in the 2021 draft I don't think about I don't think the 2020 draft um so we'll see but I yeah I don't see anybody in Michigan athletics that would sit out or be able to sit out and just say yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna make my money yeah maybe maybe Jalen Mayfield though people have him penciled in early as a first rounder that is true yeah that could be one for sure yeah it's a tough question and something we don't want to think about but that's why we're here to ask the tough questions and give you bad answers i guess i love that give us the questions, we'll give you bad answers. Always. That should just be in our bio.
Starting point is 00:30:48 It really should. New slogan. All right, well, let's move on to our last topic here. I heard something, I just saw it on Instagram, about Michigan maybe scheduling a game with LSU in the future here. Does anybody know any more about this? No, I saw what you saw. Yeah. I mean, obviously we've, we've seen it in the past. Michigan doesn't really schedule cupcakes in the beginning of the season or for non-conference games. They try to go after pretty solid programs and, you know, play good teams, be able to prove ourselves,
Starting point is 00:31:21 which, you know, has hurt us in the past record wise. I mean, we can go back to 20, I believe it was 2018, when we lost to Notre Dame, first game of the season. And then we go into, I believe that Ohio State game 10-1, right? We could have been undefeated going into that game. So I could definitely see it happening. And honestly, don't get me wrong, I love getting hyped up for that, you know, exciting gaming in the beginning of the season. But honestly, I'd like to see us go undefeated so i'd rather play a cupcake but but yeah that's exciting as hell man to see a top program like lsu possibly coming to the big house
Starting point is 00:31:55 or us going there or playing in jerry's world or whatever it may be um i'd love i mean it'd be it'd be a fun game to watch for sure yeah i think that the only way we should do it is if it's a home-and-home. I don't want to go play in Jerry's world again. We've been there, done that with Florida and with Alabama. It's cool and all, but there's nothing like it. It doesn't compare to playing at home. For LSU to come here, that would be, you know, one of the most hyped-up games ever, right, of Michigan Stadium.
Starting point is 00:32:29 And then if we went down to Death Valley, first of all, I don't really want to do that. We would get our ass kicked. But still, it would be a cool environment, cool thing to see. You know, it would be that if it's the first – Love to travel to that game. Oh, my God. That would be unbelievable. You know, it'd be that if it's the first, I'm sure that game. Oh my God, that would be unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:32:52 But a little Southern hospitality down in Baton Rouge, that'd be pretty sweet. But I still think, you know, what's the benefit as far as actually trying to win a national title there? You know, it's a cool thing, but where does that benefit us as far as trying to go 12 and 0 and get into the national title picture we've already got a juggernaut on the last game of the year that we haven't been able to beat why would we put a juggernaut at the on the first game of the year you know like even Washington this year I think is you know it's a cool thing but we're going to Washington and so and so then you can possibly start out 0-1 when Alabama is probably playing Sister Mary School of the Deaf and Blind Game 1. You know, like, it's just not – I don't – it's cool.
Starting point is 00:33:39 We'll make a lot of money for the department. You know, we'll have a lot of eyes on us. TV deal will be prime time that first game of the year but it's like if we're the goal is to win a national title right these games are not helping us win a national title yeah i mean do you think we should just schedule cupcakes then because i mean isn't a little bit of like notre dame's claim to fame that like we only play prime time and we only play great competition, even though they play a bunch of ACC schools. But I mean, do you think we should just schedule cupcakes then?
Starting point is 00:34:13 Yes. 100%. Give me all the cupcakes. If we were able to prove that we could beat an LSU team, then I'd say, yes, let's schedule them. We haven't even proven that we can beat all these teams in the Big Ten. So the fact that we're looking at it as, you know, we're not on their level yet, right? So if we were in Alabama or Clemson or in Ohio State, then, yeah, let's play these. It'll be a fun game.
Starting point is 00:34:44 We could definitely get the W, let's play these. It'll be a fun game. We could definitely get the W, which helps your resume. But where our program is at right now, we can't beat an LSU. We can't beat a Washington. We can't beat a Clemson. We can't beat an Alabama. So why are we scheduling what we would be slotted in as a loss already, you know, if we're trying to win a national title. Now that I think about it, there's really no benefit to it, right? Because Alabama doesn't play those games. They play in a tough conference, just like we do. So, I mean, play in easy games, get those easy wins,
Starting point is 00:35:21 and then play in your tough conference. And they've already established that Alabama can do that and get into the college football playoff. So why don't we just do that and do the same thing? 100%. Use it as a spring training. I mean, there's no benefit to a Power Five conference team to do that. Now, if you're a UCF and you play that game and you win, then maybe that helps propel you into a New Year's Six Bowl or, you know, they'd have to have some big wins against good teams to get into a playoff. But for a Power Five team, it looks much better to go undefeated playing cupcakes than it does playing, you know, a really good team at the beginning of the year and losing.
Starting point is 00:36:00 That loss is the stain on your season right where nobody even looks they if you go 12 and 0 trust me nobody's looking at the front of your season saying oh they only beat you know middle tennessee state by 30 you know nobody's looking at that so it's just it doesn't yeah there's no the the risk is definitely way more than the reward there. The other thing too is like, you know, everyone's like, oh, Jim Harbaugh versus Ed Orgeron. This is going to happen in like 2032, right? You know, they schedule these games for like 10 years out. So who knows, you know, unless it's done in the next five years,
Starting point is 00:36:44 who knows where either program is at once we get to that point. LSU, outside of this past year, national champs obviously, they've been that 9-3, 10-2 team just like we have. So you never know where the programs are going to be or where college football is going to be at that point either. Yeah, no, I mean, I think that's a good topic, and I'm all for scheduling the cupcakes now that we've talked about it at least. Let's roll into our 0 to 90 takes here, getting towards the end of our episode.
Starting point is 00:37:20 So let's get some good takes here, guys. You guys got something prepared? I'm ready. Yeah, we're good. We're good to go. Jack, you went last week, so I'm going to make you go first this week. Number one for number one. All right, let me know when to go.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Your 30 seconds for your 0-90 take begins now. All right. So Kalen put Zach Charbonnet as his number five top running back since 2000. I'm going to have a hot take and say Blake Corum, once his time is done at Michigan, will end up as a top three running back for the University of Michigan Wolframs. Whoa, dude. Nate is just about to call you on the phone and tell you. Oh, Nate.
Starting point is 00:38:11 That's awesome. You know we love Blake Corum. Dude, that video he posted, jacked out of his mind. Dude, he's a monster. And he's what, 19? If you get him in a in a uh a college weight program here
Starting point is 00:38:27 he's gonna be a bowling ball because he's a he's a little guy right he's only like 5 10 something 5 9 something like that like so yeah he could be a stud for us he didn't look little in that video oh man when i say little i mean short there you go okay his arms were bigger than my head all right ro you're zero to 90 are you ready i am ready all right your take begins now all right so 23 of 24 offensive players with eight or more starts under coach harbaugh have signed nfl contracts and 26 of 28 defensive players with eight or more starts under harbaugh have signed nfl contracts go to michigan and you'll go to the nfl if you start there it is a top five program to get players into the nfl let's go yeah that's i
Starting point is 00:39:29 can't even argue that's true man i think cam put that up or somebody put it up i saw cam shared it and i was like man that is insane like you never would think that but there's what three out of those numbers three or four people that have started started for Michigan and not gone to the draft or gotten – is it played in the NFL or gotten drafted? It was signed NFL contracts. Okay. Yeah. That's still amazing.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Yeah. Yeah. That should be an ESPN talking point. Right. But they'd rather rip on Harbaugh for anything at this point but I mean when you think about it like we have a lot of studs even from the past three years that are starting in the NFL right now Devin Bush like rookie of the year Chase Winovich you know and I think a lot of the guys that got drafted this year are going to get serious playing time um
Starting point is 00:40:22 you know those 10 guys that we had drafted they're going to get serious playing time here in the NFL next year if it happens. Yeah. All right, Kalen, you're 0-90. I don't have a stopwatch here. Rode, you got something for me? I got it for you. All right, Kalen, you ready? Oh, I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I'm going to try to imitate your voice as much as possible. You're 0-90. Starts now. Okay. Make the big house loud again. One of the things we need to do is we need to make the band better. Honestly, whenever the band's on the field, I'm like, okay, time to go get a snack or use the restroom. So we need to make the band way better.
Starting point is 00:40:58 I think that could be done by bringing in a live artist to make a performance along with the band. My suggestion, Migos. Let's play some Bad and Bougie. Let's play some, you know, Walk It Like I Talk It. Let's do some really fun stuff that makes players want to come here and play here. Yeah. Done. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:41:19 That's amazing. Migos. Past 0 to 90 takes the entire time. That's beautiful. I mean, they're best friends with Harbaugh, right? Dude, yeah. Harbaugh was flexing the chain and the
Starting point is 00:41:33 watch and everything, so let's do it. That'd be amazing. They legit come around just to watch practice quite often, honestly, with no appearance or anything they're legit fans it's kind of crazy so let's get them in center field in the center of the stadium just you know oh that'd be so fun i'd love it that would be incredible i'm sure the
Starting point is 00:41:58 the donors and all the people sitting down would really love that in Michigan Stadium. Perfect. Perfect. Maybe they'll make some noise then. Even if it's booing, I'd rather hear some noise from them. Something, right? It's so quiet in there. Yep. Alright, well that was some good 0-90s guys. Awesome takes.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Well, anybody got anything else that they want to put out there the last thing i did want to say is we have a plan for the nba to come back end of july right so we're nearing the end of the tunnel everyone we're so close we're sports are starting to come back hopefully that goes seamlessly and everything that we talked about with covid earlier in the podcast um you know it starts to get better and better but we we're getting closer and closer quarantine's over here uh in the next few days in michigan we can see the light at the end of the tunnel keep chugging through we'll enjoy the summer and then sports will be back sooner than you think. Yeah, so thanks for checking us out at Blue by 90 Podcast.
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