Blurry Creatures - EP: 104 Tombs of The Nephilim Kings

Episode Date: May 10, 2022

Dr. Judd Burton returns to discuss the modern-day discoveries of the tombs of the Nephilim god-kings of the ancient world. Why is there so much multi-national intrigue and urgency surrounding discover...ing and finding the tombs of these ancient men of renown? Mysteriously certain world events seem to coincide with the discovery of the final resting places of Nimrod, Osiris, and Romulus. We think know history, we think we have a science community devoted to telling us the true history of our ancient past. But do we really? Tune in now to hear how the dead Nephilim kings are being sought out and why the elites today might be seeking their discovery.  Guest: https://www.burtonbeyond.com  Intro Song: Kalax "dream"  Support the show! www.blurrycreatures.com/members  Socials instagram.com/blurrycreatures  facebook.com/blurrycreatures  twitter.com/blurrycreatures  Music Kyle Monroe: tinytaperoom.com Aaron Green: https://www.instagram.com/aaronkgreen/ Outro Song: TimeCop1983: timecop1983.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:38 but they found the occupant of the tomb and that he was in a remarkable state of preservation and was about 15 feet tall. Welcome back to blurry creatures, Luke. You had your first live podcast. How do you feel about that? Pretty good, Nate. Pretty, pretty good. Tim, it was not a biblical wedding because Tim brought out the worst wine first.
Starting point is 00:04:28 They brought out the crap wine just to get people hammered. That was us. That was us. Luke was wearing sweat. sweatpants. They were nice sweatpants, huh? I just love it. We're like, hey, what are we doing today?
Starting point is 00:04:40 Like, Luke, you dressed up for it? Dressed up with the event. Dressed for the job I want. We had a great time. We did. Tim was super rad, and so many people came. We almost sold all of our shirts. People were telling us the nicest stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:55 I mean, dude, Luke, we got to do BlurryCon. We got to do it. Yeah, we do. We got to get sweat towels and fog machines, maybe DeLorean, you know, all the things. Exactly. We'll get an old telephone booth and we'll just portal through and go. Right, exactly. Back to 1985.
Starting point is 00:05:11 The only place to go. And then maybe back to 1955 to Hill Valley, you know? Speaking of going back, we're going back into our early catalog. We're bringing back the doc, the Dr. Jed Burton on this episode. DJB is on the mend. And he is on the mound. Pitching us the goods. That's right.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Pitching us the curveballs that only DJB knows how to throw. And I'm excited about this one because we've, we've, actually been thrown around this idea for a few months because I find it to be very interesting and pertinent to the times we're in and and it has all of the year marks of a of a burden and beyond episode yeah we're getting into all all things blurry the the the nephalum kings the tombs of the nephalum kings I think that's probably going to get better on the search ratings looks we got a name it's not tombs of the god kings I don't think it's going to it's not going to peek in the old charts like tomb of the nephalum kings well I like it neat
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Starting point is 00:09:42 Supporting the podcast. Let's get Dr. Jed Burton on the show. The history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine. It's a Smithsonian that if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere was to go get it. I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right to bust the paradigm, it all goes back to the fallen chair. And the problem with the modern day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural. This backdrop is just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Herman event.
Starting point is 00:10:49 And this guy defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal. We are on the, uh, we're on the Judd hotline. We're going old school. We're going coast to coast tonight with Judd Burton. Coast to Ken. I kind of, there was something magical, Luke,
Starting point is 00:11:18 about a phone call and a radio show in the middle of the night, listening to Coast, like hearing a guy calling, you know? Yeah, I used to listen to it with my dad. Yeah. On late night, I went back from my grandmas.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Oh, yeah, I loved it. It got me through graduate school. It just, it just like, it's like the intro into the blurry verse, you know? Yeah. It was like, and I don't know what I thought.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I just thought it was a bunch of wackos, but it was so entertaining. It probably was half the time, but should we kick this off, Nate? We should kick this off. Welcome back to blurry creatures, the one and only, the myth, the man, the legend, from Lonely Mountain himself, DJB. Dr. Jed Burton, I don't know if he's going to be singing the night, guys, but he's been M.I.A. You just never know. You never know, Luke, when the man will sing. The world needs a song from Judd, you know?
Starting point is 00:12:12 It just doesn't seem right. Judd, it's great to have you back. It is great. I know that you are a, you are probably, without it, not even probably, you are by far the most beloved guests that we have on blurry creatures. I can say that because I know how much of an outpouring there was, like just in our Facebook as a litmus test for you and when, you know, you ended up having to go to the hospital. So everybody is very, very glad that you are.
Starting point is 00:12:40 here you're still on this side with us you're still going to rock the in the blurry verse and that and they're on the mend and I know that people would probably want a little bit of an update if you don't mind giving one and you don't have to go into a ton of detail but just let everybody know how you're doing and um because I know they ask they ask a lot in the member stuff so yeah you know and that that uh that just that hits me square in the heart everybody in the bludyverse thinks about me like that. And it's just, you know, 115% reciprocated. I love all you guys. And I am kind of in the second phase in my recovery right now. Well, the big thing is just what was a mobility issue stemming from older injuries in my legs. There's some other other
Starting point is 00:13:27 things that went along with it. But that's basically what I'm getting therapy and rehab for right now. It's kind of a long, a long haul, but I am on the end. I continue to heal and strength and all that is getting better. So I appreciate all of the prayers and thoughts and good messages that people have been sending out. I'm just thoroughly blessed by all that. We had us worried, Jed. We had the search party ready. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:58 We were sending people out. Yeah. It felt like. I know. I know it, man. You know, I just, I wasn't doing anything on social media because I was in such a maze. Yeah. Which is why I have told a number of people, you know, think that there was a definite spiritual side to this.
Starting point is 00:14:22 You know, just given the, given the nature of my calling and the fight that we're in, you know, And my members of my family and my friends have echoed the same sentiments and observations. So it was a pretty tough sling, you know, an arrow. Yeah, 100%. We had, we had Doug Van Dorn on the trail. We had Derek Gilbert on the trail. We were looking. We were looking for you, John.
Starting point is 00:14:53 So we're thrilled to have you back. And we're thrilled to be talking about what we're going to talk about tonight because another something that we have been mowing around, even before your help. health issues arise. We were talking about wanting to put together an episode on on the Tomb of the God Kings. The Tomb of the God Kings. We're talking about Nimrod and Romulus and just the fascinating connections that you can pull. You can pull between those and some world events. Sometimes it feels like when you get that phone bill, it's like the crash site document. You can't read it. There's a bunch of numbers, random fees, vague language, stuff's blacked out. You're like,
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Starting point is 00:17:12 And Luke, I will say One last thing I was going to say all that I was a little bit frightened Because we've Just to echo what Jed was saying We've had a lot of members Past members and guests Been a lot of crazy things
Starting point is 00:17:22 Have happened to some guests On our show There's just a lot of darts being thrown We lost Rob Skiba And Doug Riggs Yeah Yeah, we've You know, within the past year
Starting point is 00:17:35 We've lost You know, people like Rob Skiba And rest is Doug Riggs and, you know, Heiser's got cancer, you know, there's just a lot of wild stuff going on. Yeah. Well, if anything, it reminds us that the battle we're in is real. You can't talk about these things, minister, about these things, study these things, help people with these things, and not expect to take some pretty significant fire at sometimes.
Starting point is 00:18:05 It's a good thing you're one of the men in the fight. Because Judd don't back down. That's what we know. To quote Hank Williams, Jr., a country boy can't survive. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Jed, we have a lot of episodes to record with you. So Luke and I were going to freaking come down there and kick some doors down.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Right. Get shotguns of Ivermectin and just come flying in. Takes no sense. Shotguns and Alvinan. If that's not a country, something I'm making it. Just shotguns loaded with Ivermectin and HCQ. Let's go. Ouch.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Let's get the good doc. Put him on the time machine and get the hell out of here. That's probably not the delivery. Okay. You know, metaphorical shotguns. We were going to, Nate, we were doing a full Davey Crockett. We're going to tell everybody, you may all go to hell. And I will go to Texas.
Starting point is 00:19:09 There you go. We were coming. Look at you. Well, Judd, it's great to have you back on the blurry creatures. And I know you're back when you're posting the memes. I'm like, up, there he is. He's back. He's getting, he's feeling the juice.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I think the last one was a gurney's one. It was. Yeah. Do you officially have the juice, Jed? Yeah, it's back. All right. So maybe give us a little bit of an opening line about, we say Tomb of the God Kings and our listeners,
Starting point is 00:19:41 and even, us dummies don't really know what you're talking about maybe exactly when you say that. Yeah, as intelligent as my hard to believe, but I'm happy to talk about it. You know, one of the episodes we did, I guess it was last year maybe, or earlier, yeah, it was last year, was right after I wrote that paper on Eurasian words, Eurasian languages and the influence that the RIPAIM had on words that we use for king and ruler and prince and stuff like that. And so this is kind of a related study and extended, an extension of that,
Starting point is 00:20:23 really, something I've been keeping my eye on for quite some time, almost 20 years now. Going back to the model of political manipulation and cultural engineering that the watchers and the Nephilim and then the post-flood refaim imposed on mankind, this model of a highly centralized government with a, initially a literal God king because they set themselves up as the first rulers of these city states that actually became empires. Again, they took, they took the model of a good, just perfect king,
Starting point is 00:21:05 you know, in the form of Yahweh. And just like the demonic always does, they took it and turned on instead and twisted it. And that became the great social and political shift at the end of the Neolithic period. We have such like Gobeckley-Tepe and Tell Caramel and Natuci and Jericho and some later ones in their wake like Chattel Hayek and even some in Egypt during the late plasticine, you know, anywhere from 10,000, 8,000 BC. We're basically, I'm basically building off of that supposition, that theory, that model. And there's, even in secular circles, there's some, you know, there's evidence that, you know, that notion is not far off the mark because virtually all of the,
Starting point is 00:21:52 the earliest post-flood civilizations, like Mesopotamia and Egypt and the Indus River Valley. And this is true of basically every, every religious backdrop within a civilization in its infancy, is that they're all theocratic monarchies. In other words, the king was the political and religious leader and was often considered to be divine or semi-divine himself or some sort of messenger between humanity and the gods. And we see this played out again and again. Probably the most iconic example would be the Egyptian pharaohs
Starting point is 00:22:30 who were considered to be deified in one form or the other and some, you know, incarnation or avatar of most often raw. But this model was something that the watchers, and the certain portion of the post-sled giants, you know, the watchers begin it, and their forebears continue it. And so that really becomes the bedrock of what we're talking about today, I think, in terms of these, the God kings that were refurb. referring to are not human entirely.
Starting point is 00:23:09 They're partially human, but they're not entirely human. These are the heroes, right, Judd? These are like the... Men of Renown? Yeah, the men of renown, the... Yes. You know, the hybrid sons of the... Or sons of progeny of the Watchers.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Right, exactly. And we actually, we talked about Nimrod. I know we're going to start with... I'm sure start with that, just because it's chronological, but we talked about him. And we've talked to a few episodes, and I know, Jed, we've probably covered it with you as well about how the Bible talks about he became a gore. Like he became this, you know, essentially a nephalum, the same idea. Turned into a hybrid.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Which is strange, yeah, like in a sense, because whatever was happening then, and we can probably, you know, hypothetically surmised that there was something going on where he was able to do that, you know, and then, of course we know that he led the, and I'm jumping ahead a bit, but, you know, he led the peoples into the, you know, into the creation of Babylon Tower of Babel, all those things. So, yes, I want to just lay that out. Just confirm with you that you were talking about, you know, these hybrid progeny of the watchers and or essentially the same idea,
Starting point is 00:24:19 a mixing of the human and angelic DNAs. It's interesting to think that that's where we get that from. You know, why do we choose a king? You know, why did people allow kings and queens? Yeah, well, you know, again, that goes back to actually some of the work that Dr. Aaron Jenkins and myself have been on Gobeckley-Tepi about, you know, for most of human history, we've been nomads and hunter-gatherers and horticulturalists of one sort or another. And then this shift takes place, like I said,
Starting point is 00:24:52 at the, you know, the end of the plasticine, the end of the, what would have been the mezzalytic period, I think I said neolithic, I meant mesolithic, beginning of the neolithic period is this shift in social organization, which is, you know, a 90-degree angle change in the cultural trajectory of humanity. Now, that doesn't mean that every human social group, every population on the planet at that time opted to organize themselves along those lines. It was initially just the ones that had this contact with the watchers in the Nephilim and in the post-flood world that that idea was rebooted. So why would people choose the king?
Starting point is 00:25:38 Well, that system, you know, in my mind, is imposed on humanity by the watchers in this, you know, this attempt to culturally engineer and control and change the direction that humanity was heading, you know, all for their own purposes, which ran counter to what, you know, God had in store for humanity. God still manages to work through that system for his will and for good. But from everything that I've studied and researched, you know, for the past several years, that really seems to be, you know, the case because, you know, you've got, on the one hand, you've got this, this, you've got humanity, which, you know, couldn't really defend themselves against whatever the watchers wanted.
Starting point is 00:26:31 to do with them or to them. And this system is, you know, pretty readily and easily imposed on humanity. And, you know, it's still with us today. I was to say, to me it seems like a lot of what the enemy and sort of the strategy, the enemy was at the same time, right? You have this replication of what's happened or this corrupt counterfeit of what's happening in heaven, right? We know that heaven is to be a kingdom where God is worshipped as as king of kings. And it seems, you know, just in the way that we, you know, we talk about the fallen heaven and the rebellion
Starting point is 00:27:08 and the desire of these angels to be worshipped like God and set themselves up here in the same hierarchy, in the same position, but in, you know, in a corrupt, counterfeit version of what we see in the heavenlies. And then, you know, I think about when we went through the whole, the rafa, right? The tracing of the word all the way back. And you touched on just a little bit earlier, but like the idea that all of our words for king find its
Starting point is 00:27:39 origin in Raphaim, which of course is a hybrid. And you have these all roads traced back to ground zero. To this original set. Yeah, well, it's the setting up of the fallen angels and their progeny to be worshipped as God is worshipped unto the corruption of God's creation, into the bastardization to the destruction of the image bearers of the one true king, right?
Starting point is 00:28:11 It makes a ton of sense to me. Like I think, like, okay, like everything we have is a bad, that's bad is a bad counterfeit, you know, of God's order and God's creation and in God's hierarchy. You see how carefully woven in to our social systems, our culture that all of this stuff is.
Starting point is 00:28:34 It's so subtle that it doesn't occur. You know, it's not immediately forecoming that something like a king, you know, has origins and something that's not only supernatural, but is wicked and twisted. And, you know, this is, this is just one word, one, one cognate, one concept that we're talking about here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:01 If they could do that with a political system and a social system and one word, you know, what statistical likelihood that there's so much else that they help craft in our culture that we wouldn't, wouldn't on the surface attribute to them. Do you think, if we think about the kingdoms and principalities and territories, do you think that these god kings had sort of a almost like an invisible fence where their influence worked and kind of shaped the minds of the people in a certain area and then if you got out of that you were more of a nomadic type person you weren't under the influence it's yeah that's a possibility i think i think that kind of imagery is probably up in describing the influence of these but in the case of the three examples of
Starting point is 00:29:52 that we're talking about tonight, especially two of them. You know, we're talking about not just hierarchy like Paul talks about, you know, and Ephesians, but we're talking about direct contact, you know, with the people, you know, in the cases of Nimrod and Romulus and even Osiris. So let's get into that because I think it's, it's funny. Like this almost feels like it's ripped from like a script of Indiana Jones almost, right? Like you have the, I think about the Ark of the Covenant, right? You have these sources or believe sources of power that modern empires are trying to acquire.
Starting point is 00:30:35 And it would have seemed it appeared to be in order to harness whatever sort of power, these relics, and this knowledge may be these associations with the god kings, whatever kind of power those relics may hold, right? And so this discussion begins with Nimrod. And take us down what happened there because I think that we're going to see, and I know you've laid this out, especially on Facebook, is where you put it out there. And I thought it was just fascinating and wanted to really unwrap this.
Starting point is 00:31:05 But it begins with Iraq and the Tomb of Nimrod being discovered. Right. Well, I should probably go back to where my story begins when I enterports of this. Choice hotels get you more of what you value. It's calling your name. Save on the stay. Oh, and free waffles are yours to claim. Book direct at storeshiltails.com.
Starting point is 00:31:32 It's been 84 years. In 2003, in 2003, I was a young graduate student. I was finishing my master's degree in anthropology at tech, and I was just excited about everything and, you know, everything was new and I was working in a Heritage Foundation. I was a genealogist and a research historian for this Heritage Foundation. A lot of what I did was genealogical work. But I came in that one morning in March of 2003 and sat my coffee down and sat down at the computer. I put my news ticker on and I saw that there was a story.
Starting point is 00:32:20 from the BBC about the discovery of the tomb of Gilgamesh. I thought, hmm, that's interesting. By then, we knew that Gilgamesh was not necessarily a literary device, because, of course, we had the Kingslist, but it had never crossed my mind. They would be able to find a tomb or something like that. But that was the headline on this story, and so I clicked on it and read it,
Starting point is 00:32:47 and in detail how a consortium of archaeologists had located what they believed was the tomb of Gilgamesh. I thought, that's, you know, that's a pretty significant find, you know, considering the literary sconce that the Gilgamesh epic occupies the world literature. And just sort of followed away. And, you know, not knowing some of the things that I would hear years and years after that about not just finding. the tomb, but potentially finding the occupant of the tomb. But if I say, six weeks later, the invasion of Iraq began, and I thought the timing was really interesting. I remember sitting down, I think it was maybe the first or second week
Starting point is 00:33:35 that the coalition forces were in Iraq, that I started to remember reading about that article. I thought that's really, the timing is really interesting. I don't know what to make of all this. And so a lot of it was just sort of swirling around in my head, you know, like little satellites around a planet. And over the ensuing years, I would hear things from people, trusted sources, about, you know, they didn't just find the tomb, but they found the occupant of the tomb. And he was in a remarkable state of preservation and was about 15 feet tall, lifted in an operation back to the states. that, and there were other curious things, news pieces and commentary on what had happened
Starting point is 00:35:01 and even from some military personnel that had been there, that one of the things that I found really curious, I'll bring to bear here, one of those things is that supposedly the United States was charged regarding the Baghdad Museum, they had already busted in, but to keep looters from looting the Baghdad museum. And to my knowledge, we only had a spec ops team there for about half an hour to an hour, and then they were done. They left, which tells me that they got in and got out with whatever it is they were looking for, and the specificity of what they were looking for must have been pretty high.
Starting point is 00:35:46 And the second thing is that not just the Army, but I think all branches that were on the ground had a deck of cards that they were doing, kind of along the... the lines of the death cards that they used in Vietnam, but these weren't death cards. They were artifact cards. And there was a very hierarchy and topology and list were on the lookout for. Commanding officers were on the lookout for, and these were dispersed amongst, you know, certain contingents of troops to be on the lookout for them. And although the Army has archaeologists, a lot of what they do is salvage and a lot of state side stuff. So, you know, it's pretty clear to everybody that the armies, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:40 their primary purpose is not archaeology. In other words, they're standing orders to all their personnel to be on the lookout for certain antiquities. And I found that rather curious that they went to those links to hand out these cards, a deck of which I'd really like to get my hands on if anybody's out there and knows they're one of them is. They were in the envelopes at George Bush's funeral. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Well, that solves that mystery. That's where they put them. So, you know, that's not, I'm not being hyperbolic about this stuff. I mean, particularly with the cars, that was stuff that I had read in several articles. You know, it's not something that they were keeping secret. But in the context of all this, I found that highly, suspect. For me, it just fits exactly
Starting point is 00:37:31 what we know to be true about what Hitler and Himmler were doing, with their obsession with the occult, for one. They're open occultists, and then also they were looking for relics that they thought would give them more power in the occult,
Starting point is 00:37:47 right? And I, you know, we joke about Indiana Jones, but in that the Nazis are doing the same thing. They have an archaeologist employed, the army's on the ground, they're trying to find these these relics of power. It just isn't about movies. It's funny, I pulled up a couple articles
Starting point is 00:38:03 when you were talking about this, and it's interesting, like you say, that in spite of us, you know, the U.S. being there to protect the contents of the Tomb of Nimrod, there was initial reports of 170,000 pieces stolen. They put that down to somewhere of a thousand pieces, maybe stolen.
Starting point is 00:38:22 But, you know, you read this in light of what you're saying, just in light of where we are in 2022 and be like, this is from 03. And you're thinking, of course, yeah, they're lost, you know, in air quotes. These things were stolen in air quotes. It's, uh, and the fact that like, you know, the reporting is they're looking for specific things. Like, what do you think, what do you surmise? If they're, if they're airlifting the body of, allegedly the body of Nimrod out of, out of Iraq and into the states. And they have at least 52 things they're looking for if you talk about a deck of cards, right?
Starting point is 00:38:59 What do you think they're looking for and what do you think that the purpose is with perhaps the body of Nimrod and then also these things that they were looking for? Like, I mean, we've had, you know, we were all younger men in 03. We've learned a lot, I think, maybe in the last, at least the last four or five years. You know, the globalists have really been exposed, but I think they were out. And then we know they were operating here. What do you think they're doing or looking for specifically? And what do you think their purposes with Nimrod in his body?
Starting point is 00:39:29 That is a disturbing question to ponder. I think your allusion to Hitler and Himmler and the general Nazi agenda of, you know, creating the Ubermarch, the super moon, you know, none of that research really stopped because, you know, we gave all the scientists that would be most helpful to us a pardon after, you know, the Nazi scientists after World War II. and then we hired them under the auspices of Project Paperclip. And there had been researchers and riders, notably people like Jim Mars, who've argued, I think, rather convincingly, supported by a docking the trail,
Starting point is 00:40:10 that the agenda of the Third Rock, at least in that capacity, never really stopped. It was just sort of transferred to the United States. And transfer may be a loose term to use as well, since a lot of those ideologies started, you know, in the states to begin with. I mean, Hitler praised American eugenicists for, you know, basically weighing the bedrock for the Nazi regime and his philosophy. And a lot of the socialist and communists that became instrumental in the creation of the Soviet Union, a lot of those guys are trained in New York City. So it's almost like the chickens coming home to Ruth.
Starting point is 00:40:51 At any rate, there's a definite agenda. you're using this, you know, watcher tech, Nephilim tech, for some nefarious agenda. And for those who are familiar with, you know, the workings of the globalists or the Illimini,
Starting point is 00:41:06 whatever appellation you want to stick on them, or just talking about compartments of the same organization, which is, of course, thoroughly satanic. And it's why I say that, you know, pondering the possibilities of question you pose, is pretty disturbing and frightening on some level as to what they would do with the actual
Starting point is 00:41:28 physical remains of Gilgamesh, who I should have stated at the beginning, we're equating with Nimrod here, and there have been scholars who have made a pretty convincing case for that, so I'm not going to retread that tire, only to say that, you know, if people are interested in that, they can certainly look that research up, and I wrote an entire chapter about Emerald and Gogh and interview with the giant which people can look up if they'd like.
Starting point is 00:41:56 But if I say that's the argument that we're making here is that it's the same person. As to what some of these other artifacts may be, I suspect that a lot of them probably bar relief or kineiform cylinders that contain
Starting point is 00:42:14 and I'm just making an educated guess here. I don't know a lot to go. But I would suspect that that the information contained, you know, on inscriptions and things like that, contain the necessary knowledge, you know, about this watcher tech, rather than actual physical artifacts. I mean, those are physical artifacts, but what is significant about them is the writing and information that they contain.
Starting point is 00:42:41 And that doesn't mean, you know, that you couldn't have artifacts that were, you know, demonically charged or something that would have been crucial to whatever agenda they had. But I think it's going to be a mix of things and I think I think their artifacts that would slip under the
Starting point is 00:43:00 so-called radar because they're rather innocuous, particularly the cylinder seals. Now, I'm not saying that they don't have immense cultural value for that part of the world. Of course they do, but you would think that, you know, well, what did they do? Did they find a, you know, Stargate technology or something there that they're bringing back?
Starting point is 00:43:21 I don't know. I don't know for sure, but my suspicion is that they're more interested in the information that's been preserved than rotting. I mean, you got to think, too, that if they're after the body right there after DNA, it seems like everything in this show comes back to that, right? It's the seed war stuff. Yeah. We've, over the years, we, Luke, we've gotten a bunch of those emails, people saying that there was, like, requests. documents pertaining to the resurrection chamber of Gilgamesh location of his body. There was like something was on the email servers. Oh, that's right. And there was some talk about Barry Neffelm as well. That was kind of a rumor.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I don't know if that's like two conspiracy theory, but something about the servers connected to the Clintons and something about Gilgamesh. We probably had 10 people sentenced that over the year. Sure. We've been to podcasting. And I don't know if that's too off the channels. Well, you know, I don't completely discount anything. I can't confirm or deny that that, but it's certainly within the realm of possibility.
Starting point is 00:44:23 You know, I mean, until I can see a convincing argument one way or the other, I'm going to say that it's, you know, that's possible and it wouldn't surprise me. So, yeah, so we invade, we as the U.S. invade, we take control of, and we take what we need. and then there's like much everything else of sort of dubious origins it disappears into
Starting point is 00:44:51 you know wherever the dums Nate or to secure places that are run with black operations and dark money and all these things that sounded like conspiracy theories for a long time we all just find out all this stuff is true
Starting point is 00:45:05 it's it's crazy it's crazy and I think it continues to get crazy because there was a yet another tomb found, right? Judd, the next one as we're moving sort of in chronological order, would have been in 2015. Right. They find the tomb of Osiris.
Starting point is 00:45:23 The Osiris tomb. It's actually from the 25th dynasty, which is late. So in terms of the chronology that the tomb itself dates back to, we're talking like 7th or 6th century BC, which is, you know, that's very, very late New Kingdom. But what's significant about it and may tie us back to an earlier time is the fact that this tomb is an exact replica of the tomb, the chamber of Osiris in Egyptian mythology. And you don't, you typically don't see that. In fact, we've never seen that before.
Starting point is 00:46:06 And all the tombs that have been excavated in the Valley of the Kings and other parts of Egypt, you just don't see that. And to my mind, that poses some questions, you know, is there some sort of lineal connection here with the actual Osiris? And I'll tell you a little bit about who I think Osiris was. In addition to being part of the Egyptian pantheon and the god of the dead, God of the underworld, sort of has a refaim vibe to it anyway. But there are really two main prevailing theories about the unification of Egypt that took place, you know, sometime prior to 3100 BC when you start to see the first kings of Egypt. And this is before the pharonic dynasties. But one theory is that is that upper and lower Egypt, you have to remember before the fourth millennium, or for even part of the four.
Starting point is 00:47:11 from the millennium. Before the dynasties, the kings and the dynasties began, Egypt was tribal. You know, it was like most other places on the surface of the people were nomadic or they were honor gatherers, or multiculturalists, a lot of nomadic and semi-nomadic peoples, depending on where they were in Egypt. But, you know, we're talking about late-Mazilitic early Neolithic tribes. And they remain so, you know, that system remained in place, even after. the emergence of pre-flood civilization, remaining place in the post-flood era, the early post-flit era,
Starting point is 00:47:48 until you get to the fourth millennium B.C. And you have the unification of these tribes under one banner. And the two prevailing scholarly theories is that one, this was an internal unification so that one of the tribal chieftains that had become most powerful and rallied a pretty good portion
Starting point is 00:48:11 of those tribes under his banner and then subjugated the rest. And the other is that the other theory is that an individual came from outside of Egypt, either Mesopotamia or Southern Anatolia. And this conqueror was responsible for unifying Egypt. And there have been a number of people who posited that this was Osiris, whether it was internal or external. Now, certainly if we're dealing with a, you know, if he's the first God king of the Egyptians, you know, we're dealing with somebody who's got divine and even potentially human pedigree.
Starting point is 00:48:51 And I say human pedigree because all of the myths about Osiris allude to him being, you know, physically killed. And he's put together by ISIS and her sister in LaNethysus. And they basically go find all of those parts that have been chopped up. They don't find one, though. They can't find one of them. No, they can't find his genitals. And they have to fashion a golden phallus,
Starting point is 00:49:20 which he, after they reanimate him in Frankenstein sort of style, he impregnates Isis and their son Horace is born. There's some interesting, even transhumanist kind of elements to the story itself. But again, the fact. that this tomb is an exact replica of Osiris's chamber in the underworld. I don't know that anybody's written about it yet. I haven't seen anything but waiting for a lot of this research to get published. But to me, that says a lot about the burial itself and that particular line in the 25th dynasty.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Are they saying that there's some sort of connection here? And, you know, just like most excavations, you know, they're not open to the public until there's a period of time. that passes so that the archaeologists and researchers can do their thing and draw their initial conclusions about it, during which time, you know, any number of things can happen, and I'll leave that to people's, you know, own supposition and imagination. But the uncovering of this team, I think, is significant because of its connection to Osiris, you ostensibly was one of these god kings, maybe even the first of these supposedly nameless kings that unified upper and lower Egypt. It's crazy too to read about this guy, right? Like, you know, obviously the
Starting point is 00:50:42 God of the Dead and the afterlife and the underworld, but the way he's depicted is having bright, bright emerald green skin, the Pharaoh's beard, legs like a mummy. Like he has these almost reptilian kind of strange attributes. And I've heard, I've even heard that, heard some people say, and I can't confirm even on this, but I have heard people say that the, of the recovered Gilgamesh was kind of bluish in tent. It makes you wonder, how are these king, God kings connected, and how are they not connected? You know, you wonder if these guys are working together, are they working separate? I mean, or is it sort of just some chaos and each for themselves?
Starting point is 00:51:28 I think that's the confusing part is that, you know, you wonder, you think that they were all working together for some evil demise, but maybe they weren't. Maybe they were independently doing their own debauched civilization. Well, I think that's what made them useful to the enemy is that they were so selfishly devoted to their own agendas. You know, they were kind of like useful idiots as Lenin, you know, called most of his followers. I don't think that they were necessarily working together because, like, you know, you have to remember that in the post-flood period, there are many, tribes and clans of giants, and they all have their own respective culture and in many cases of language. I'm sure that they all understand that they have a similar origin, but their character traits and their culture dictate a lot of their behavior. And, you know, this sort of despotic,
Starting point is 00:52:23 highly centralized autocracy that we see combined with religious herver is, you know, that's born out in the secular scholarship, and it certainly seems to be borne out in, you know, research that's been done on the giants and the Nephilim and the Watchers. I think it's fascinating that they're finding this stuff, right? And there's correlate, there's correlating sort of things that happen now. And one of the things you pointed out that there was, like, there was sort of a large-scale massacre of Coptic Christians upon the discovery of the tomb of Osiris. It just seems like, again, and too coincidental to be, to not be related.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Yeah, that's part of the reason I think that the timing of all these funds are significant because they're, you know, in the case of the Iraqi war, and then the wake of the Arab Spring taking place, in places like... First of all, I wanted to read, like, the description, because I think for our listeners to understand, like, this tomb, I've got a got one here. It says that all the elements recalling the mythical Osiris tomb were present, right, that writes the Luxor Times.
Starting point is 00:54:00 It's a big staircase, three and a half meters long, with a four meter high ceiling at the bottom leading to the netherworld, another one leading directly to the Osiris statue, which is therefore at a higher level and ideally isolated on his island. The Osiris statue itself, the empty corridor surrounded it, which symbolizes the channel of water, the expected burial chamber below the statue, thus identifying the deceased with Osiris. In the funerary room stands carved release of demons holding knives. That's what they found. So my question for you is we talk about this being the 25th dynasty and, you know, a replica. Do you, why do you think that, do you think that they moved his body?
Starting point is 00:55:01 That's maybe what the first thing I think of. They had to recreate the tomb for whatever reason, and they recreated it in the same way that it was done. And perhaps they relocated Osiris and his, you know, his funerary belongings or treasure. Is that what you would, you would think happens? is happening with this since the timing is off? I think so. And so secondarily, much like we saw with Nimrod and Gilgamesh, we know that Egypt has a ton of British influence, right?
Starting point is 00:55:31 It was, in fact, somewhat colonized. What do you think happened to these things? Because it doesn't ever mention any of the, if it was uncovered and discovered here, it doesn't talk about any of the contents. I mean, not surprisingly, it just talks about the aspects that I read right there. of what the tomb looked like.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Yeah, this, although the archaeological work on it is a recent, I think the tomb may have actually been discovered in like 1887 or something, which is when Egypt was under the British mandate, and of a Levant was too. So, yeah, and you're talking about the infancy of archaeology and museum science, museum practice at the time. Of course, the remaining empires of the world basically saw the cultural heritage of these places as items to put in museums and filfer.
Starting point is 00:56:27 They weren't really concerned about leaving it in the Middle East. But obviously a lot of those artifacts in that era ended up in places like the British Museum and scattered throughout other museums in Europe as well. The Lou, Berlin. So it just stands the reason that there's still stuff out there that maybe hiding in basements in some cases. I've talked about this before. There are plenty of mundane artifacts that go missing in museums because basements are
Starting point is 00:56:57 always shuffled and, but the flip side of that point is true as well. You know, who knows what's sitting in a museum basement that has direct bearing on what we're talking about tonight. Who knows with the Smithsonian as well, right? Speaking of museum basements. Right? There's a familiar theme, right, Luke? Yeah, and I find this fascinating too with just the Osiris thing, Judd, that like we know that the United States, for a great example, there is a lot of ISIS and Osiris symbolism that exists in our capital.
Starting point is 00:57:32 And there are a lot of ceremonies, including the raising of Osiris, done by the Masons in our capital. Yeah. I mean, you can't deny. It's weird. I don't know how you ignore that. Yeah, you can't really. It's the influence of the ancient and classical worlds on our monuments. And, I mean, it's just right in your face.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Do you feel like, Jed, that for the most part, there are no coincidences. These entities still have influence. It's just the public at large. The masses are sort of blind to it. But the elites, they know. And that's why they're going around. They're all connected. They have the history of these occult ties, and they're looking for specific things,
Starting point is 00:58:16 and they're doing ceremonies, and it's this knowledge that they have that we don't have, and we get these little symbols here and there, and we get some clues that they're doing this, but maybe the ancient world, it was much more obvious, it was on the surface,
Starting point is 00:58:27 and now it's just more hidden. Yeah. Behind the scenes, behind the curtain. Yeah, well, I mean, I think other eyes are pointed out quite well that, you know, ancient people didn't look at this stuff
Starting point is 00:58:43 the way that we do for the most part. And they believed that it was, they were in it, it was all around them. You know, they were directly interfa, essentially, but physically, too. I think it's interesting, too,
Starting point is 00:59:05 that we have modern peoples that are still trying to raise or harness the powers or the spirits of the hybrids, right? It's just, it's, it's bananas. And misguided though they may be, they understand that. They understand that mindset,
Starting point is 00:59:21 you know, that we live in a supernatural reality. I mean, we as Christians understand that too, but for diametrically opposed purposes. We talked to Derek Gilbert a lot about Polyon and the abyss and these the watchers being imprisoned and you're still having this ability to communicate and when we see people who obviously nefariously connected with darkness that are essentially trying to raise the progeny of these imprisoned watchers if we
Starting point is 00:59:51 talk about if we're to sort of follow that trail from the watchers to the God kings and to the hybrids and which would be the offspring or even the Refayim right these these grandchildren, great-grandchildren of the Watchers. And it almost feels like from the abyss, the Watchers are still trying to resurrect, reincarnate, bring back to their own ends, their own progeny or descendants, which is bizarre.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Yeah, I believe that they are. And, you know, some people will argue that they don't have any influence because they are in prisons. Well, the analogy that I use is that think of all the, like, mafia dons and cartel leaders that get in prison, that they still control things. They still run it.
Starting point is 01:00:41 They still run it. Yeah, they still run it from prison. Yeah. I mean, let's get weird here. Do you think they're trying to break in, get them out, open portals, use CERN, trying to crack into hell and get them out? Yeah, why not? I mean, if you think about it.
Starting point is 01:00:57 That's like Revelation 9 chapter stuff, chapter 9 stuff. Jailbreak. Yeah. Well, I'm just saying from my understanding on the show, there's a moment God will let them out. Yeah. But what if they try to make that early and break themselves out of jail? Yeah, well, I mean, they're always trying to work against, you know, from the beginning. They're trying to work against God's timing, right?
Starting point is 01:01:23 Mm-hmm. Do you think that's why history might be barreling on as long as it has? has? Well, I think in part, but I think it also is tied with, you know, what the New Testament calls the fullness of the Gentiles, you know, as many people as possible can have heard the gospel or when God says, okay, that's enough, you know, you got enough time to hear the message and choose the side, basically. When that one is, I don't know, I don't know, I think prolonging that is kind of a perceived stalemate is kind of what the demonic views is of victory. But, you know, they can't stop that, though, because it's already said it's prophetically set in stone.
Starting point is 01:02:11 When that will happen, who knows? Because I think the last statistic I saw about people on the earth who have not heard the gospel, and it's still something like 35%. So, you would think, you would think with the connectivity, the internet and the mass, you know, mass communication that, well, you know, and that's, I think that's what accelerated the process, but there are still people that Stone Age existence. Yeah, there are. And remote parts of the world. What makes you think that these entities must, they must still have some kind of influence. The communication and the, the hierarchy, clearly something is being communicated and they are, there are minions running around.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Right. And clearly there are humans that are involved in the affairs of these entities. Because the more this show barrels on, the more you look into any conspiracy theory, these elites, they're getting information from somewhere. And they have some sort of goal. I mean, we've seen that in the last two or three years. Like, I mean, it's obvious that people are pulling the strings, and it's not a very big group of people.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Mm-hmm. And there's an orchestration. There's orchestrated events. There's orchestrated people that are running countries. And despite thousands and thousands of protests, they're still sticking to the narrative. And you have people literally boycotting and organizing these protests all over the world. And the politicians, it's like they have a gun to their head with a narrative. And anyone with half a brain can smell it. And you got to think, okay, who's the guy behind that guy? And does it go all the way back to these God kings? Are they still influencing?
Starting point is 01:03:58 the top dogs on the pyramid. Well, of course they are. From the watchers on down to the lowliest demons, because remember, the spirits of the giants are unclean spirits. And they have the most direct influence in the world. And arguably, you know, that, well, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:19 they would have to fall somewhere in the rank and file of, you know, one of these watchers. So you think the watchers can communicate to the demons and the demons can then run messages to the elites? I think so. Now, the means about which that takes place, I don't know. I have suppositions developing into research-based theories.
Starting point is 01:04:42 I'd rather not share right now, but it's clear that the lines of communication are open. I don't see how you could come to any other conclusion. Yeah, and when you, sorry to get weird here, but when you see things like Bohemian Grove, we've talked about that a little bit. Are they just doing a ceremonial thing, or are they actually trying to communicate directly? No, I don't think that it's ceremonial.
Starting point is 01:05:09 I mean, it is ceremonial, but the whole purpose of the ritual is to make that contact. And how much contact do you think they have? They get. I think that they get quite a bit. You know, they're all on a need-to-know basis, and they get what they need to know. But I think it's a lot.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Judd, there's a third tomb In 2020, of all the things that happened in 2020 To distract everybody from what's happening out here There was a yet another Another tomb discovered Yeah The tomb of Romulus Was found underneath
Starting point is 01:05:47 The palatine You know, the form Yeah, and right there in the tomb So talk about, tell us about Who's Romulus? Talk about a little bit why this is important and what might have been surrounding this? Yeah. Romulus was true of Rome, but there are other, you know,
Starting point is 01:06:26 Romulus is a simple Roman mythology and veneration, but is really kind of the founding father of Rome, and his story is a really strange one. His father was God Mars, who, so many of these stories go, took a liking to a human female, a vessel virgin, a priestess named Rea Silvia, it was actually the granddaughter of one of the early Latin cities.
Starting point is 01:06:56 So we're talking about a line of kings here. At any rate, Mars comes down and rapes Ria Silvia, and the product of that union are these twins, Romulus and Remus, in an effort to... The story differs a little bit here as to how they end up orphaned, But there were political machinations in motion, I suppose you could say, because of their royal pedigree to keep them from the power. And they were basically left to the elements. Well, this is where the story gets really rude, if it hasn't already.
Starting point is 01:07:35 A wolf, she wolf, takes the two and nurses them and raises them in their early years in a cave under the cap of lion hill. This image of Romulus and Remus being suckled by the she-wolf is iconic throughout both the Republic period and the Empire period. It's well attested in the archaeological record from Britain all the way to Mesopotamia and from the Germanic lands all the way into Ethiopia, basically. You're going to find some representation of this. Long story short, when the planning phase, after they come to power and they grow, they're supposed to be great in stature, you know, and again, looking through this from the biblical ends, you've got the divine pedigree and you've got the human pedigree. There's your hybrid nephal. So very much in keeping with what we know about the behavior of John, they're politically ambitious and they get into an argument over who's going to rule this city. And in an act of the way. And in an act of the way, they're politically ambitious. And they're politically ambitious. And they get into an argument. And in an act of, Defiance, Romulus built a wall around his portion of the city, and Remus, another act of defiance, jumps the wall. And the stories differ, but most of them say that Romulus killed his brother, Remus, to take the kingship of Rome. Now, this is interesting, too, because actually, we have
Starting point is 01:09:01 the list of the first Roman kings before Rome was a republic. We have a list of the seven kings from the records that the Antiquarians, the Roman antiquarians kept. And the first one is named Romulus. So it's sort of analogous to having the Samarian Kings list with Gilgamesh's name on it. So we know that there was a historical Romulus. And if we were to believe in Livy,
Starting point is 01:09:30 you know, then all the supernatural things that occurred in conjunction with their birth, what happened, Romulus's ascendancy, bear closer observation and consideration, I think, too. And amidst, you know, a worldwide pandemic discovered by a team of archaeologists from Spain and Italy, I think. And, you know, there's still, I would imagine, they're drawing this first phase.
Starting point is 01:10:19 So again, you've got the windows that are doing their thing. They're going on and, you know, what were the occupants of the tune that may have, may have escaped, you know, proper attention as well. And I suspect that that includes, you know, genetic material. Timing seems interesting yet again, too. It's just right in the middle of or the beginning of the pandemic. It's like the article I'm looking at talking about this find is February 25th, 2020.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Coincidence or not, that shuts down anybody really going, anybody really seeing. More importantly, anybody really focusing or hearing about this because the world's looking at the shiny thing, it's crazy. Like, just got to wonder where these things go. Yeah. You know, I know we like to talk about governments and governments and governments, but the deeper we get into these things, Judd, the deeper we get down the rabbit hole, it just feels more like factions, not official government business, but factions of, you know, globalists of corporations, whatever it may be, however you want to classify it. and kind of pulling strings in getting to, to the relics, to the sources of ancient knowledge, ancient power, watcher technology, and perhaps even, you know, the ability to extract DNA, which we know then is going to be what they would consider it to be divine, but we know to be the meddling of angelic and human DNA.
Starting point is 01:11:58 And we're talking about it. I've been early in the case of Egypt and Mesopotamia, but the, the, the formidable political and social power that these empires wielded. You know, Rome being the latest one. Let me think about it. Isn't it, are these three of the civilizations on the, on the, in the prophecy in Revelation, when you have like the bronze and iron, we're just missing Greece here? Is these the, I mean, I don't remember if Egypt's in it or not.
Starting point is 01:12:35 This is going to really reflect poorly on my prophetic knowledge, but I know that we have Babylon. I know we have Rome and the, what is it, the statue with the with iron bronze and Persia. Yeah, a Persia. Egypt may have been in there. Well, they're beast empires, right?
Starting point is 01:13:00 You know, in Mexico, Egypt figured highly in the Old Testament. All right, it's the Empires of the Beast. Who do we talk with, was it, was Derek or Gary Wayne, Nate? That was Gary Wayne we talked about. The Empires of the Beast.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Yeah. Yeah. And, again, not coincidental, right? You have these founders, the founding fathers of these beast empires. It's obvious what's going on here. It almost feels like Judd and Luke that if you get to a certain amount, if you have a certain amount of power in our world, in our society, eventually you sort of get courted or you get seduced to pick aside.
Starting point is 01:13:43 I don't think very many people who are in control or have. a sway on culture and humanity don't have some sort of moment in their life where they aren't approached by somebody or some system that tries to influence them to make these decisions because this has been going on since the dawn of time and I think there's an there's a there's a narrative on our show and we've talked about it no matter what it is if it's a giant skeleton that some farmer digs up it just goes missing right if it's a if it's a body of a bigfoot it goes missing. If it's, if it's, you know, knowledge of a UFO, it's covered up. And it seems like all the knowledge is just constantly being swept under the rug. And, and I don't think that's all
Starting point is 01:14:31 just happenstance. Well, yeah, things just go disappearing because there's some government agency. It's like, no, there, there is a concerted effort to keep everyone in the dark all the time. Yeah. As confused as possible. And I don't think that if you're as influential, of someone like Elon Musk that you don't, you don't have some moment where you're made aware of that. Yeah, clearly. His, you know, his recent takeover of Twitter,
Starting point is 01:14:59 maybe he'd commentary on that. Good or bad, right? I don't know yet. Hopefully good, but we'll see. I just think, like, these people were all, like, implicated on flight logs, going to Epstein's Island and, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Lo and behold, what's going on there? and the more you get into it, it's all blurry. Yeah, it does. People right in the world leader can hide from, obviously. Yeah. There is the same lust for power that's been going on since the beginning. Yeah. And knowledge, right?
Starting point is 01:15:42 So when you get to a certain level of money, what do you want next? You've got everything you could buy. Well, the next thing is having some sort of godlike power, right? So is it just that lust and that burning that's been going on since the Donner's time that the elites they just want power and they need something new some new drug that money just can't quite you know like okay cool i can become a politician have some control but by what i really want you know some sort of spiritual moment yeah i think that there there are there plenty of people that are pursuing that that bubble of power i think it's going to ensure them you know some
Starting point is 01:16:26 sort of immortality and power to go along with it, but it won't. But you're right. The age old, that's the, you know, that's the crossroads scenario, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:37 like Robert Johnson used to think about that. That's, he's talking about what the, you know, what the devil offers, you know, all, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:45 we did it with Adam A, he did it with Jesus, you know, and the temple man, you know, and it's, these guys have money and power and it lasts for a little while,
Starting point is 01:16:53 but, you know, it's all a funeral. You know, it's almost like in terms of, you know, just financial success and things, it's almost like they, they do get some temporary success. They do get some benefit from what they're doing, you know? And you look at a lot of the people who are like, like you were saying the beginning of this episode, pursuing the truth and trying to put out the real message and proclaim the real king of the world, those people get blasted. You know, like Heiser said on our episode, you know, it's always, it's always, it's always a real message. the person of Jesus that they're attacking and they're trying to take down because he's the true
Starting point is 01:17:30 king. We're talking about the kings on this episode. That is the king. That is the only guard king. And if you are loyal to him, you're going to have fire coming at you. We're going to try to take you down, take you out. And if it's the opposite is true, if you're, if, you know, Satan's like liking some of these elites because they're, you know, leave them alone.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Let them be successful because they're doing my, they're doing my, they're doing my, they're my work. Sign of success is not necessarily a good thing. Anyway, that's a whole other podcast. There's a whole other podcast. Judd. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Dude, I love these. This is just like, it makes me just, it makes you want to sit and think about things you haven't thought about. Yeah, me too, professionally. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:18:18 and just kind of ponder and marinate on, you know, it's eye-opening in a lot of ways. Because I think once you have the blinders off and, or once you, You've taken the red pill. People like, it's real common now.
Starting point is 01:18:29 People talk about that, the Matrix, you know, take the red pill. You never go back, right? You understand, looking at things in a way that isn't. It isn't just like, oh, this is what they're saying. So this has got to be it, right? This is, oh, yeah, they just happened to, you know, do X, Y, is it just happened. They found this too, and it just happened to be an invasion.
Starting point is 01:18:45 The things that are happening around us are not only accelerating, but they hide in plain sight now. Maybe they have always, and we've just been really blind to it until, you know, well, people, you know, people start waking up. And I feel like we are in a period of people waking up. And hopefully they wake up faster than they are at the moment. But these are just, just, we love you, man. We appreciate these enlightening conversations because it's just,
Starting point is 01:19:08 it continues to build upon, you know, the place that Nate and I are driving this thing. It's just, is to, you ask the hard questions, talk about the weird stuff. And try to bring light into the places of darkness. people can understand and can look at world events and creatures and things that don't make a lot of sense through a biblical lens. Man, tell you what, 10 out of 10 times, it makes sense when you look at it like that. Yeah. That isn't a coincidence. We talk about coincidence is not being coincidence.
Starting point is 01:19:41 That is not a coincidence either. Right. So, absolutely. Yeah, that's good stuff. Yeah, absolutely. We got DJB back in the mix. we were thinking about we needed to put out the old
Starting point is 01:19:55 the old bat spotlight bird signal the birds signal the bird signal oh we got it it was on and you answered the call Bertman we got to get you
Starting point is 01:20:08 yeah see Luke and I were selfishly we were like talking when we couldn't find the Bert man we were like we got a lot of blurry
Starting point is 01:20:19 creature episodes to do with Jed this isn't this is not okay this is not okay there are there are many there are many more coming yeah absolutely Jed you you know what you get healthy buddy
Starting point is 01:20:33 yeah you better we're gonna we're gonna come find you you know people I'm not out of the woods yet you know my medical bills are are piling up so if you feel led to to help me out
Starting point is 01:20:53 you know you can I've got The PayPal account that I have is associated with my email address, Professor Burton at Yahoo.com. And I do have a donate button on the Institute webpage, the Institute of Biblical Anthropology. That's awesome. I was going to actually ask you that exact thing, Joe. Yeah. More than anything.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Yeah, more than anything, keep the prayers around. Do we want to help you support you any way we can? And it's... Well, I appreciate that. Yeah, I'm just humbled and honored. He wants to get back into the study and start slaying, slaying books and writing. Right, dude. It's always hard to go through those valleys and go through the desert, but you know, you know when you're going through the desert that there's a reason you're going through it.
Starting point is 01:21:43 And, man, it's good to have you guys in my corner and be friends with you guys and have this community with blurry creatures. Because it just seems like if it ain't me, it's somebody else that's associated in our. our friends that are going through the grinder. It's just, it's just a been a grind. Yeah. And I think that's because we're all pot committed to the truth and we want to get it out as much as possible.
Starting point is 01:22:05 And people are constantly telling us how they found like-minded people. So, Jed, you were kind enough to hop into the blurry tank early. Real early, yeah. And you, you splashed it better than anyone. So. Well, that's my pleasure. I'm honored to be part of the blurry verse. We love you, man.
Starting point is 01:22:31 And it's awesome. Like, it's funny, this is one of the threads we've been pulling, right? I can't help to think that, like we mentioned earlier, that we go from the, you know, from the word origins and Rafa, and we kind of have a capstone now of pulling that thread all the way to the tombs of the God kings being discovered. And excited to see what we get next. down the road here because we pull a lot of threads with you, Jed, and this is a fun one, too, because it's funny how things line up. As always, we appreciate you for your knowledge and for
Starting point is 01:23:01 the things you bring to the table and just get to tap into that brain a little bit. And, you know, we just thank you for sharing, as always, just dropping knowledge on just a couple of knuckleheads here in Tennessee. Well, we lost. Everyone out there listening to this podcast, go support the doc, the good doc, go to his website. he's got his email there shoot him a PayPal tip help Judd out he's a good guy he's been super kind and generous to us
Starting point is 01:23:27 so many episodes so we lost Judd into the into the blurry sphere but he's chasing the nurses he's out there he's just just living L-I-V-I-N baby but just living yeah well thanks for listening to the blurry creatures
Starting point is 01:23:44 and it's good to get back Jed back on the show Luke it is good to hear his voice and we got a little coast to coasty on that one and yeah just thank you for all you guys out there supporting us and guys like judd heiser and tim and derrick and doug and all the guys that they're in our sphere or trudging through this thick mud of weird content and truth and trying to make make sense of it all i mean we're we're lucky to be in this tank luke because sometimes it's like
Starting point is 01:24:15 when jud's rattling off facts and locations and dates and history and and empires i'm just like i didn't pay attention enough in high school you know right into the deep end baby all right just like okay where's the where's the bigfoot encounter right that's what i'm waiting for oh nate yeah been a good one it's a good one good to have jed back what are you gonna do lou we're gonna roll that time

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